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December 2, 2024 98 mins

With the Thanksgiving weekend now behind us, it's time to review the biggest movie of the season, Moana 2! We talk about what we liked, why it falls flat as a sequel, and Disney's shady business practices to make it...


We also talk about Nic's recent trip to Disney, Jackson getting his wisdom teeth yanked out, Muppet*Vision 3D getting closed, and more!


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(00:00):
Oh, who was as or ever was. Can't bring me down.
Why'd you hit that? Hello and welcome to the

(00:43):
Nerdiest Podcast, the show wherenerds talk about nerdy things.
As always, I'm one of your hosts, Mr. Jackson Glass, and
today I'm joined by my Co host, my Ride or Die, the host with
the most who's always sleep deprived, Mr. Nick Barrett, and
we're going to get into that in just a second.
Today we're talking about Moana 2. the IT it's the highest

(01:03):
Thanksgiving box office in history and we think that is a
big problem and we're going to talk about that here in a
minute. We're talking about general
thoughts, favorite songs, least favorite songs.
We also have one news point thatis rather tragic and there's
been a death in the Disney family and we're going to get to
that also in a little bit. We'll also get a little a little
taste of a little wicked review.Just a little quick snippet

(01:25):
right there. But first, I want to hear from
Mr. Nick. Mr. Nick, how has your?
Week been well, I realized that I should probably look up this
death in the Disney family so I can actually have the article.
Oh, there it is. Perfect.
It's like center stage still perfect.

(01:47):
Yeah, I can't wait to talk aboutthat.
Anyway, so my week's been prettysick.
I haven't done anything this week.
This is Thanksgiving week we're recording.
Been a pretty chill week. I've had the last like 2 1/2
days off work which has been very restful even though I've
spent most of it working on YouTube content.

(02:07):
As it goes, when you have a fulltime job, if you got any free
time, go straight to making. Content back to content.
So I did that. I binge watched all the way
through Arcane season 2. It was all right, one of a lot
of good things to say, so I justkeep that to myself.
But the bigger thing was last week my mom and I took a trip

(02:28):
down to Disney because we've notbeen to Disney since my
graduation trip two years ago, or almost 2 1/2 at this point.
Which is wild because I rememberdoing a Disney recap on a
podcast episode after that trip and like, I'm going back.
I've been going back through andlistening to the old episodes

(02:48):
and I'm in 2022 now. And I was like, Dang, how much
has changed? Like in five years?
No, how much has changed in two years, bro?
Like that's crazy. So Disney was really fun, though
there was, it was not super crowded because we went the week
before Thanksgiving. So like nobody was there.

(03:08):
I don't think we waited more than 40 minutes and I think the
longest one we were in was single rider for Rise of the
Resistance and that was the longest thing we ever waited in
and we didn't even get the 40 minutes.
Oh wow, holy cow. And even then, like the way the

(03:32):
single rider worked out, becausewe did single rider on smugglers
run too and the like, I got put in my own and she got put in her
own. And then the one guy was like,
do you got you want to switch? And like you guys can ride
together. So we got to do smugglers run
together. And basically same for Rise of
the Resistance. We got put in the same prison
cell. So we were on the same transport

(03:54):
thing. So it was never like, oh, I'm
the way over here waiting for you at the end.
Did you pay for Lightning Lane? We did for Hollywood Studios and
Magic Kingdom. We did not for Epcot.
We didn't need it for Epcot because like half of the stuff
was closed all day. Oh, that's nice.
Grand Fiesta Tour was closed pretty much all day, test track

(04:17):
wasn't open and then we did Sauron first thing in the
morning and waited like 15 minutes for it.
Sauron is never too long. Everything else was really
short, like we did the land twice, once in the morning and
then once at night to see all ofthe like Christmas lights and

(04:40):
stuff. And then what else did we do at
Epcot? We did.
We did every every ride at Epcotexcept Frozen.
OK, so we did do Remy. Yeah, we did the standby.
It was like 20 minutes. That's that's actually insane.
We did not need the we did not need the Lightning Lane for
Epcot. It was kind of wild.

(05:01):
Unheard of. We arguably didn't need it for
the other two parks. Like we could have done fine
without it because Hollywood Studios.
We got everything in the park done except for Slinky Dog
because it was closed done by 3:00.
Slinky Dog is always closed. And when I say we got everything

(05:24):
done, I mean we did Tower of Terror twice, Rock and Roller
Coaster twice, Star Tours twice,Smugglers Run twice.
Like we were doubling up on things right by lunch.
And we? Still got out at like 3.
We went back to the hotel at like 3:30 and just chilled until
it got dark and then went back so we could see all the

(05:45):
Christmas lights and stuff, which was nice.
We also did Muppet Vision while we were there, which we'll loop
back around and talk about that in a second.
We'll look back in a minute the.Highlight aside from like all
the the good stuff that happened, the highlight from
Hollywood studios was we were standing in line to do the
single rider to like hit it one more time while everybody was in

(06:08):
Fantasmic and the line just stopped moving and we were like
right there before they send youoff into the pre show and we're
standing there. We're like, why is it?
Why? What happened?
And we see this like one person walk and grab a like caution
floor wet sign. And I was like, oh, somebody
might have like spilled a soda or something, right.

(06:29):
The line just stopped like cold stop.
And it wasn't like a oh, the preshow is going cold.
So like it it had been too long.Yeah.
So then another person walks outand like grabs all these towels
and I'm like, Oh no, Oh no, that's not good.

(06:49):
So then you could hear someone yell for the cast member who was
at the like the divvying up station and she was like, all
right, you got to just start sending people through the
single rider line because the single rider line is the one
that goes on like that upper platform around.
So they started like funneling all the single riders through to
empty out that queue because I guess they closed it at the

(07:11):
front. And then as we're walking
through, there was like a cast member standing just like
gesturing you to keep going. And someone had barfed all over
the pre show floor like and it wasn't like just a little, it
was a lot. In the pre show.

(07:32):
Yeah, so I don't know if they had just eaten some bad food or
it was a kid who was like reallynervous and made themselves
sick, but they just. That's so.
Embarrassing right there. So we're standing in the in the
single rider line and all of thecast members on that end are
freaking out because they just stopped getting people.

(07:54):
Yeah. Oh yeah.
And they're like, what happened?But then the line started
getting backed up because the ride stopped.
We never figured out why the ride stopped.
I don't know if it was because they were.
Trying protocol thing. Yeah, I don't know if it was
like, oh, we had like this code,whatever.
I need to figure that out. So it was kind of funny though,
because like they all kept coming with all this cleaning

(08:15):
stuff and like going down the line and we're like, oh, that's
unfortunate. You couldn't pay me enough for
that, bro. No, that's I'd be like, not me,
I'll get paid enough. He probably he said they
probably had park hopper and hadthe the tacos in Epcot.
You're not. That's what that's what got us

(08:35):
last time and then. Our highlight from Epcot was
Grand Fiesta Tour. Like I said, I've been closed
all day. Right.
And we went into Mexico after like going around the world and
which I did get my steam teriyaki bun from Japan because
it was like the very end of foodand wine.
And I was so happy. But we're in Mexico.

(08:58):
And we asked the attendance like, hey, why is it closed?
And they're like, we've been having technical difficulties,
like we're hoping it's open by the end of the day, but there's
also only two hours till park closed, so we don't really.
So we're like, OK, we resigned ourselves, like, OK, we're not
going to get to do it. As we were walking out.
This is going to sound so stupid.
As we were walking out, I went, Lord, this sounds dumb and this

(09:21):
is kind of stupid, but I really need to ride this ride while
we're here. Like this is our favorite ride
at Epcot. Like we got to do this while
we're here, so if you could get that ride turned on, that'd be
great. So we go out, we do the land as
we sit down on the boat, I was like, well, the land is going to

(09:42):
be our last thing. So like I need to know if we're
going back to Mexico or if we'recoming back.
Dude, I kid you not. Bam, that ride opened right back
up and we got to do Grand FiestaTour is the last thing.
I was like, Amen, Amen. Yes, Sir.
He said he pulled out his tambourine and flag and did a
praise break in the line for Grand Fiesta Tour.

(10:04):
It was great. And then the last thing, and
then I'll pass it back to Jackson, is we and Magic
Kingdom. The highlight was doing the
train because I hadn't gotten todo the train because it had been
closed, because they were working on Tron for the last six
years and I got to do it. We went all the way around and

(10:27):
then like back to Fantasyland because we got on in
Frontierland. There was that.
And then we also did Tron, whichI had never done before because
it wasn't open when we were there last time.
And I'm going to be so real withyou.
Tron is way too short. Yeah, Like, what do you mean?
I got to wait 85 minutes for a 62nd ride.

(10:50):
Yeah, What? It's a great ride.
That's bonkers. Dude, but so short.
Also I will say like the the like the pre show and the lobby
and everything is really, reallycool.
And this whole thing like it's really cool, but like the ride

(11:10):
itself is really smooth and really fun.
But it is like way too short. Like it's just like it's kind of
like this is cool, but like is it worth the time to wait?
Like I would do it as a lightning lane for sure.
Oh, that's what we did. We paid for the lightning.
Lane, but I would not stand in line for it.
Tragic missed opportunity not playing Daft Punk on the ride

(11:32):
though. That's what I said too.
I was like, this is absurd. No, no Daft Punk, all right.
I mean, that's. All right, then why am I here?
Although we did do Guardians of the Galaxy twice.
Praise. What songs did you get?
We got the virtual cue and then we got the Lightning Lane.
We God, everybody wants to rule the world, oh banger.

(11:54):
And the one way or another, I'm on a I'm on.
A get you get you get you get you get you one.
Everybody wants to rule. The world was better.
That is a really good song. I was really hoping we get Disco
Inferno 'cause that was the one we got the first time we wrote
it, and that's my favorite and that's the song I associate with
that ride now. Disco Infernal and Crazy Train

(12:15):
are the best Guardian songs. Dude that ride is so good.
This is the best ride they have there.
Genuinely probably their best ride.
Objectively speak, not includinglike my own nostalgia, right?
Easily the best ride there. Oh, so true.
So overall very good Disney trip, very expensive as as most
Disney trips tend to be. I did get this really cool.

(12:37):
You guys have probably seen it if you're watching the video.
I got this really cool like Tomorrowland Tervis thing and
then I also have a hoodie with that same pattern on it but it's
hasn't been washed yet so I can't wear it because I have
standards so. You got to wash the Florida off.
Of it, yeah. You got to wash like the icky
Chinese sweatshop off of it before you can wear it, because

(12:58):
then I can and my conscious can be cleared about it.
So that that was my week. I will pass it back to you.
How's your week been? I know you had a pretty crazy
thing that happened. So while Nick was gallivanting
around Disney World living my dreams, I was at home.
If you if you're watching the video, I am at home right now

(13:20):
about to go back to school, but I was home for break where I had
my wisdom teeth removed. Wow so fun.
I hope Disney was awesome. So here's here's how that here's
how this played out. So context.
My wisdom teeth have been hurting me for quite a while,

(13:41):
maybe like a year now. I know what you're thinking,
Jackson. Why would you let your wisdom
teeth hurt you for a year beforegetting them taked out taken
out? It's because I hate the dentist
and I am a stubborn, stubborn man.
And I, I was just like, I don't need my wisdom teeth out.
I just like maybe twice a month I'll have a day where like the

(14:02):
back teeth, my back teeth just hurt really bad.
And then the next day they're fine.
So like that's just a normal thing that humans experience.
And so I went to the dentist forthe first time in a while this
summer and the first thing she said was you really need your
wisdom teeth out. I was like, awesome.
And of course it's the dentist, so you can only schedule like

(14:23):
four months in advance. So I scheduled it for this
break. So I go in at 9:00 AM to get my
teeth yanked. And so it's a really bougie
dentist. It was really nice, really
clean, everyone was really friendly, super fun.
And I, I lay down and I'm reallynot nervous.
Like I've never been put under. I've never had a surgery, never

(14:44):
done any of that. And so I was like is, I was told
it was just going to feel like areally great nap.
And so I was like sick, I'm justgoing to wake up and it'll be
great. So fun fact, my wisdom teeth
surgery took 2 1/2 hours and in because it was longer than they
expected. And if you don't know, I'm a

(15:07):
large man. I am like 6 four, 220 lbs like
large man. I think they may have
miscalculated my BMI in in collaboration with miscounting
how much time this would take. Thus, about an hour, maybe two

(15:27):
hours in, I was awake. I had woken up in this surgery.
Not awake enough to like sit up and say something, but enough to
open my eyes and hear what was happening around me.
And I heard three things. I heard the dentist swearing

(15:48):
like a sailor, I heard the nursetalking about how she's about to
quit her job, and 3rd. I heard them switch dentist part
way through and the new dentist looked at my mouth and said this
isn't my Forte but I'll give it a shot.
Which is genuinely maybe the worst thing you could ever hear
from a doctor. So.

(16:10):
I understand why they put you under now because like no, for
real, I don't want to hear that.Here's the thing.
I think they put you. I think like since I didn't open
my eyes, but I was like just kind of laid there and they
definitely thought I was asleep.They were having some wild
conversation that I was not supposed to be hearing.
I was getting all of the drama from this dentist's office.

(16:30):
So I was also here feeling everything that was happening.
I felt them pull my last tooth out and let me tell you, I was
like, I'm going to cry. I'm going to cry in this dentist
office. They think I'm dead asleep.
I had this like metal thing thatlike the one that like leaves

(16:53):
your mouth wide open and it was like gagging me really hard.
And I was like, I'm going to vomit in this office right now.
So I felt him pull it out. Genuinely traumatizing.
So horrific. And I finally woke up.
I was bleeding everywhere. Like there was so much blood.
And I was like, all right. And they gave me all this pain

(17:16):
medication and antibiotics and all this stuff, and I was
functioning like I was alive. And I was just like eating
smoothies and stuff. That's what you do, like eating
pudding and jello. But man, my recovery was really
bad because it hurts so bad. And I slept fine, thankfully.

(17:39):
But like surgeries on Thursday. By Saturday I was like, I want
to get out of the house. Like Saturday night we were
invited to someone's house. OK, cool.
I'd taken all my pain medicationand all this stuff before.
I was like, all right, it'll be good.
I need to socialize. I'm getting out of the house.
It's going to be great. And then I got to their house
and threw up because of this medication.

(18:03):
Now I'm a very nauseous person in general.
This medication does not help meat all.
So I was very dizzy, very nauseous.
And so I'm a lot better now. I can eat solids.
I had solids on Thanksgiving, thankfully.
But he he said the doctor calledme that night and he was like,
hey, your back left is going to hurt for a while because it was

(18:24):
a real pain to get out. He said it literally embedded
itself in the tooth next to it like it had grown and literally
hooked onto the tooth that was next to it so they had to remove
it without removing the other tooth.
So moral of the story, if you know you need your wisdom teeth

(18:49):
removed, just do it. Please just do it, because it's
not worth waiting. That's so crazy.
Also, fun fact, two days late, like three days after my
surgery, I found a mouse in my bedroom and this was a cherry on

(19:11):
top of the week. And if you note, if you know me,
you know my love of ratatouille,you can see my little plaque
back there. And the jokes were flying
because we were like, he must have just felt welcome because
of there's so much pro rat propaganda that he just thought
and I was like, you are gravely mistaken Sir.
You are not welcome. You are going to die.

(19:32):
You're going to die. Also.
I'm a little scared of this mess.
We caught him the next day. He was stuck in a trap.
It was genuinely horrific. But he literally, I left a box
of Clif bars here this summer that I just completely forgot
about. He ate two of them like in their
entirety, like dug a little holein the corner of the package and

(19:58):
ate an like 2 entire clif bars these.
Things are big. So like the the mouse is like
like an like an inch big like and I was like, is this like a
mighty mouse now? Like are we like jacked up on
19? He said.
And I was like, guys, I'm a little scared of this mouse.

(20:20):
Like he may be like. It's like that one episode of
Tom and Jerry where he's like. There's a.
Walking and nothing fazes him and I'm like.
Oh, oh, I I immediately thought of the mice from demon Slayer.
The they used to have like a sixpack and like all this just like

(20:41):
they can Muscles, muscles. It was so funny to get 'cause
you sent me a video right after your surgery and I'm genuinely
shocked they let you leave the dentist looking like that.
I looked like I got. Punched in the face by Captain
America. Yeah, it looked like you got in
a fight and lost and someone waslike bang, bang, boom.

(21:04):
And I was like, bro, there's no.I was like so swollen and then
like this entire like side of mymouth, like my teeth were red,
like I was bleeding everywhere. I can't believe they didn't like
do any kind of cleaning, like let's just do a light brush,
let's like clean it now. Just a little like no, they, I

(21:25):
think they wanted me out of there.
They were like you, they were gosh.
And then like the nurse, like wheeled.
I was in a wheelchair, 'cause like when you're, when you're
coming off of anesthesia, like you can't, you know, just.
Walk out. I'm assuming you didn't drive
yourself home. No, of course not like that.
I wasn't allowed to drive for like 4 days.
That's. Actually, probably a good thing.

(21:47):
Yeah, no, absolutely. And so she wheeled me out in
this chair and she was like, it is so cold out here.
Oh my gosh, it's freezing, why is it so cold out?
And I was like, I'm in so much pain right now, I need you to
shut up about it being cold. I.
Was like. I know this is like really
difficult. It took a long time, but like

(22:07):
you don't even do anything. You just prep the IV like please
be quiet. Come on, lady.
Geez. I've decided I want to be a
doctor, but not one of those doctors that actually does
stuff. I want to be the second doctor
that comes in and then just like, tells you you're good and
leaves. Oh yeah, so most doctors.
Yeah. So, you know a doctor in
America. Yeah, actually, yeah.

(22:29):
For real, that was. That'll be 20.
That was my, that was my week. I'm sure next week was way
better, but I'm a lot better now.
I gotten a lot of editing done. I'll talk about that in a little
bit, but we have one news point that we're going to have to
break your heart with. Yep, you want me to just read

(22:49):
the? Well, I need the.
You need to do the the intro. Oh, you're.
Right, let me add a little, add a little sad flair.
Yeah, let's do a little. Wakey wakey.
Wow. Nice time.
This one's sad. There's a little.
Heartbreaker. All right, you want me to just
read the press release here? Yeah, just read the press
release, by the way, that these cowards did not post on social

(23:11):
media. Like they legitimately did not
post this on social media. So from the Disney Parks Blog,
published November 22nd, 2024. I was standing in Epcot when
this news broke, by the way. Oh.

(23:34):
Get ready to open the door because Mike and Sully are
coming to town to make way for the Monsters 'cause we're
getting this whole Monsters Inc land, right?
Kermit the Frog, Miss Peggy and more of their friends were
moving right along to Sunset Blvd.
But there's more to the story. The Muppets will be taking over
rock and roller coaster, teamingup with some of music's biggest

(23:54):
stars for a rock and music festival.
We know so many of you share ourlove for The Muppets and know
their energy will be a perfect fit for this coaster.
And plus as the first. I feel like, I feel like I'm in

(24:15):
that video where she's like, I, I meant to get a salad.
I accidentally walked into McDonald's.
Plus, as the first ever Disney ride to feature The Muppets,
they're sure to be laughter, screams and new tunes for this
attraction for fans to enjoy throughout the adventure.
And plenty of Muppets themed merchandise.
In the meantime, there's still enough time to catch a super

(24:36):
stretch limo to enjoy Rock and roller Coaster and catch Muppet
Vision 3D again before their final curtain calls.
As we move toward, as we move forward with these changes, we
are having creative conversations and exploring ways
to preserve the film and other parts of the experience for fans
to enjoy in the future. So TLDR, they're closing Muppet

(24:57):
Vision 3D to make way for Monsters Inc land in that
stretch of the park. And actually, if you look at the
concept art, which maybe I'll throw it up on screen if I don't
feel lazy in editing, you can see on the like right side of
this concept art that's like Galaxy's Edge.

(25:19):
So this is like bumped up to Galaxy's Edge and they're not
even changing like the Muppet Vision building.
They're literally just putting adifferent facade over it and
then redoing this whole area andexpanding it because they need
more space. So I have a long tirade.
I could go down about this but Iwill let you go first.

(25:41):
Yeah, we'll try to condense thisthe best we can.
No promises. Here's my here's my thought #1
this is my rock and roller coaster magic band that will be
on eBay in the next few years and Daddy needs a new car.
So we're going to Is it going? To be a super stretch limit.
Guys, weddings are expensive. Opening bid on my rock and

(26:04):
roller coaster Magic Band, $10 million.
That's the first point. Second point is this is coming
from someone I genuinely love. The Muppets.
Muppet Vision 3D has been like one of the staples of Disney
World for me. Like from a very young age.
This is also someone who loves Aerosmith.

(26:25):
Like my mom is Steven Tyler's biggest fan.
So I grew up on them and I grew up on the rock and roller
coaster. And that was always like, what
we had to do is like, we have todo the rock and roller coaster.
Like it's Aerosmith. How can you not?
And I have like a rock and roller coaster hat from from
when I was like 10 years old. And it's like so special to me
and all this stuff. But here's kind of, if you look

(26:49):
at it, to be devil's advocate for a second, if you look at
Hollywood Studios and what the future of Hollywood Studios is
want what Disney wants the future of Hollywood Studios to
be, Muppet Vision 3DS, arguably one of their weaker aspects of
the park based on, you know, just objectivity of the rides to

(27:11):
where Muppet Vision 3D is a super popular show because
everyone goes because it's nostalgic and it's actually
genuinely really funny. But if you look at the 3D
technology of Muppet Vision 3D versus something even like the
Philharmagic, yeah, like there'sthere's no competition.

(27:33):
Like it is so fun and so sweet and so nostalgic and so funny,
but it's genuinely just a prettyoutdated.
And here's the other thing aboutrock and roller coaster is
Aerosmith isn't touring anymore.So in like, you know, five
years, I'm not going to say Aerosmith will become irrelevant

(27:55):
because I don't think they ever will because like Rock'n'roll
never dies. But the IT they're trying to
stay current and you know, theirvision for Hollywood studios is
slowly turning into a more modern Hollywood, which I don't
love because the whole point is to be like classic Hollywood.
Like it's the Sunset Blvd. It's the the 1950s sixties

(28:19):
Hollywood that's like big band jazz type stuff.
But also you have to understand,like we have to update the park
at some point. Like we have to keep it fresh
and moving. And granted, like Disney park
goers will go regardless. They're going to be there no

(28:41):
matter what you do. If you keep Muppets, if you
scrap Muppets, if you keep Aerosmith, if you scrap
Aerosmith, like they could keep it like this forever for the end
of time and they would still have record numbers every day.
But that's not what the Disney like Imagineering vision is
about. Like, that's not the point.
Like they're all about their innovation and changing.
And here's the other thing that I don't think we're really

(29:02):
considering is that Muppet Vision 3D is awesome, but The
Muppets as a whole in that courtyard have not been treated
well the last few years. Their gift shop has been closed
for like ever. Like I'm pretty sure I've been
in that gift shop once when I was 11 and it's been closed
since then. Yeah, that's right.
And. So like, and then they turned

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Pizza Planet into Pizza Rizzo, which is literally, it's just
the same restaurant and it's a great restaurant, but it's, you
know, I feel like, I feel like we're missing the point a little
bit where it's like, yeah, Muppet Vision 3D is awesome, but
they're trying, they're trying to preserve it in some way.
Like that's what they said. Monster Zinc Land is going to be
really awesome. And honestly, The Muppets are

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going to be treated way better over by Rock and Roller Coaster
and they're going to have their own actual store.
And like, I wouldn't be surprised if Lightning Mcqueen's
Racing Academy gets scrapped in the near future.
Oh. It's gone that could.
Be something else? Is it gone?
Yeah, they're changing it out for a villain show and they're
putting that there, which I willloop back around to that in a

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second. That's way better.
And so it's sad and it's heartbreaking because I love The
Muppets and I love Aerosmith, but also like, this is probably
the next best move that they could make, even though it's a
hard decision. Yeah, no, you're right.

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I have so many thoughts because as someone who grew up there,
Muppet Vision and Rock and Roller Coaster are both like
these integral parts of my childhood.
And I didn't realize how much until, like this last trip, how
much Muppet Vision impacted my sense of humor with like when

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Kermit's like, well, we invited all of the top scientists in the
world to come and do this event.Unfortunately, none of them
showed up. And then he just keeps moving
on. And I'm like, oh, that's
literally how I talk. And then Rock and Roller
Coaster, dude, I used to be terrified of Rock and Roller
Coaster 'cause that launch I thought was going to kill me,
'cause I felt like, like that pressure on your chest, I was

(31:13):
like, oh, I'm going to die. And now I'm like, I'm actively
inhaling into it to like push mychest against the force and like
get that little adrenaline kick,you know, whatever.
So this news to me was a little disheartening because I love
both of those things so much. And I think from a from a

(31:39):
creative standpoint, that's where a lot of these problems
come in. Because I just looked it up.
Hollywood Studios is the only park to no longer have an
opening day attraction still there.
Magic Kingdom still has plenty. Epcot still has plenty.
Animal Kingdom still has plenty.Like Hollywood Studios is now

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the only park that is fundamentally different than the
day it opened, right? And I understand what you're
saying about like, it has to keep evolving because that's
just how Hollywood is, right? But I also don't think you can
ascribe Hollywood Studios to it anymore because it's really not.
It's not about the movies. It's about like, it's just odd,
Like movies are in the park. Yeah.

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So 'cause. You also think about how they
like, they trashed the Great Movie Ride, which is like, so
that was like the point of Hollywood studios.
Yes, that in tandem with like the back lot studio tour and
lights motors action, like it was supposed to be this kind of
combat to universal of well, let's show you how we make

(32:49):
movies and let's have this wholebehind the scenes thing.
And then they got rid of all of that for Runaway Railway and
Galaxy's Edge, which granted, are both great things that they
put there. But I think what what frustrates
me is that they're getting rid of this Muppets area and putting

(33:10):
Monsters Inc there when they have this entire like, animation
courtyard where The Little Mermaid show is and the Disney
Junior show is and the Star Warslaunch Bay, which has gone
virtually untouched for the lastsix years.
And you're like, you can't use that space for this.
Right. Like, you can't just put up
massive walls and be like, all right, we're gutting all of

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this. I saw my favorite tweet of the
week was there was like the article, like Muppets will be
replacing rock and roller coaster.
And then someone applied and they said I will tear down Star
Wars, launch Bray with my bare hands because that place is so
outdated. Yeah, like it is genuinely no
one goes there. And I also love it was like,

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man, if only there was an open, unused theater right next to the
Muppet 3D vision that we could just slide it over to.
Yeah, I think the part that bothers me them out like I can
make my peace with the Monsters Inc stuff if they move Muppet
Vision somewhere else. Like there is that theater right
next to Rock and Roller Coaster where Lightning McQueen is and

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where the Villains show is goingto be.
That because the hot theory is that the villains show is
specifically for training cast members and because they're
going to need a lot of face characters for that.
Villains land at Magic Kingdom so this show is a way for them
to keep cycling in new people and train them on that before
they ship them off to the land. So then once you do that and you

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have those people trained you can just train them in the land
at that point if you need more so that show building becomes
empty again. So you could put Muppet Vision
right there and then you have Muppet Vision right next to The
Muppets Rock and roller coaster.So you can have those two things
together. But the problem is I have
absolutely 0 faith or confidencein Disney to do anything other

(34:57):
than putting it in two and slapping it on Disney Plus for
six months before ripping it offand saying well we did something
and now it's gone. Here's here's an ethical
question. Is this, Is this one of those
situations where we excuse piracy?
I don't think so, but like in this case, no, I get it.

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Like, this isn't just like a movie per say, right?
Like it's not, it's an experience.
Like it's not just like, oh, we can't find the original film
copy of Lord of the Rings that had this one little like frame
in it. This is like, like an
experience. It's also right the last thing

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Jim Henson ever worked on beforehe died.
Which I'm also wondering, does that mean are they trying to
wipe their hands clean of the estate?
Like are they like are they still paying them for Muppet 3D
because he worked on it? I don't know, because I know the
Jim Henson Company said like they're having conversations of
how to preserve this. And I'm like, guys, there's

(36:04):
really easy ways to do this. Like it does require you doing a
little bit more work than you want to, right?
Like and that and that that's what it boils down to is like,
that's why they're putting Monsters Inc in them up.
It's courtyard because they don't have to build a ton of new
buildings. They can just rehash and reuse
the buildings that are already there.

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So from a financial and construction standpoint, it's
like, well, you know, saves us time.
It's going to make the fans angry, but what do we care?
Like the? Other the other thing that I've
been thinking about is we've been complaining so much like,
oh, Disney's just remaking stuff.
They're just redoing all their old stuff.
It's all just the stuff from my childhood.

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And so like, in a way, we need to let them switch Disney World
around for the next generation because like, who's to say that
Monsters Inc isn't my kids favorite ride?
And they're just like, that's their key point.
That's their nostalgic point. No, I see what you're saying,

(37:11):
but also that's a dangerous attitude to have because that's
how you that's how you end up losing the rivers of America and
the Liberty Square riverboat andSplash Mountain.
And like, I think a lot of the conversation I garnered from
like the Disney fans on Twitter is Splash Mountain really was
the first thing like when they saw that that was OK, it was a

(37:35):
slow and people made made their peace with that.
Slippery. Slope.
Everything's open. Everything like no attraction is
now sacred and untouched becauseif they're going to, you know,
desecrate Jim Henson's final work, what are they going to do
to Walt Disney's final thing? Like, are we guaranteed to keep
Carousel of Progress for another50 years?

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Are we guaranteed to keep Haunted Mansion for another 50
years? Like all of these things that
these great creative people worked on that are very timeless
and like, yeah, Muppet Vision needs a little 3D help, but you
did it for Phil Harmagic. So just like, it just takes a
little work. So give it a little help.
You don't have to gut the whole thing.
So that's my bigger issue. I'm not against the parks

(38:20):
innovating and changing because if they didn't, we wouldn't have
stuff like Guardians of the Galaxy, Galaxy's Edge, like
Nicky Minnie's Runaway Railway, which is a great ride.
Like you, you have to have that innovation, but you also have to
understand that there are certain parts of the parks that
just shouldn't be touched and certain.
Parts that just like hold the identity of the park way more

(38:42):
than others. Yeah, like.
And I think I would argue that Like Muppets is probably the
last one of the last pieces of the Hollywood Studios original
identity. We're just, we've been saying
we're like the second they touchthe Tower of Terror in Florida,
that's it is when we're done, it's over.

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Like that's it. Because if they like try to make
it like a guardians thing or whatever, like Disneyland, it's
over. Hollywood Studios is cooked.
Because here's the thing, at this point, the only two things,
or I guess the only thing now that still tethers Hollywood
studios to any form of MGM studios is Tower of Terror.

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That's it. Everything else will have
fundamentally changed in some way, shape or form.
Star Tours is not the same as when it opened.
They don't have the big hat in the middle.
The Chinese Theater is somethingdifferent.
Muppets is gone. The back lot's gone.
Galaxy's Edge is there. Toy Story Land is there.
Like they've changed every otheraspect of this park.
So now for a Tower of Terror to be the only thing which it seems

(39:45):
like they're actively trying to change that because they're
trying to do a Tower of Terror movie.
So I think they're trying to getaway from the Twilight Zone
aspect of it. Give it another five years.
That ride is not going to exist anymore in the state that it
does. And.
It's just such a frustrating conversation because while we
were there, we did the Liberty Square riverboat.

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And this is tangentially relatedbecause they also said they're
getting rid of that and they're like concrete slabbing over that
entire thing and putting a like cars land.
And that's like part of where the Villains land is going to
go, which apparently there may be some legislation in the
Florida government that says they can't get rid of all of
that ecological stuff, which is replace it somewhere else.

(40:33):
I also don't know, it rains so much in Florida.
I don't know how they think they're going to get the proper
drainage and run off for that. No, but OK.
It's also going to feel. So anyway, that's a whole.
Thing. So yeah, no, while I was there,
I was looking at it and like, wewould walk next to the river and
see the boat go. And like, I don't understand why

(40:53):
you'd get rid of that. And everyone and everyone online
is like, well, it doesn't drive a lot of foot traffic and like,
da, da, da, da, da. And I'm like, that's not what
this is about, though. Like if you turn it into a
solely numbers thing, like, yes,a villains land and a villains
coaster and two more cars, ridesare surely gonna bring in a lot
more people. But at what point have you lost

(41:14):
the heart and the soul of what the park used to be?
Because it it's not about foot traffic, it's not about how much
money you make. It's about providing a good
experience. And that is emblematic of what
the Walt Disney Company is today.
Because it's no longer about providing that good experience
for you. It's about what can we do that

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will make us and the investors the most money.
Which connects to Moana too quick.
Just a quick note because I promised I'd do it.
I saw Wicked this week. I don't have time to go super
deep. I might do a YouTube video or if
anyone is like dying to know my thoughts on Wicked send me a
message I'd love to talk about it.

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But also here's here's my thought.
Just 32nd review of Wicked. If your movie has a $300 million
budget total and it does not look like this, you have no
excuse. Marvel, Disney, whatever,
whoever you are, it's possible. You can do practical sets, you

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can do good music, you can care.You can get a director that
cares, you can get Stephen Schwartz to come back and do
music. Disney, we're going to get into
that in a minute and it's possible Wicked is going to go
down as like one of the best movie musicals in history.
Genuinely believe that. Because they gave 2 craps about

(42:41):
it. OK people, this is, this is
real. If you have this amount of money
to throw at a movie and it doesn't look like wicked, what
are you doing? They planted 9 million tulips in
a field for this movie. Meanwhile, Disney's kind of

(43:02):
outsourcing, outsourcing their own freaking animation studio.
Do we realize how screwed up this is?
Like, granted, Wicked was a hugerisk.
It was a huge risk. It's like a $300 million risk,
not including marketing, and their marketing was out the
wazoo. That marketing budget is at

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least double you. Know that this is like a big
deal, but what they created was a spectacle that became a
cultural moment. Yep.
Which is what movies used to do like Harry Potter, Star Wars,
Marvel, like the big spectacle movies used to create cultural

(43:44):
moments. We are in the wicked cultural
moment right now. No one else is doing it.
We're not in the Moana 2 cultural moment.
No one's we're not in the insideout.
Two cultural like this isn't no no one cares you had they're not
they're not making good big budget spectacle movies anymore.

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Josie Wicked is phenomenal. I loved it.
Music is great, super talented cast 10 out of 10.
I gave it five stars. Genuinely think it's pretty.
Great. All right, before we get into
our main topic, we just like to remind you that thank you for
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I'm wearing some of it right now.
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And we do have a new EP coming out called sophomore year Part
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Gavin been working really hard on a lot of a lot of new music.
So this Friday, sophomore year Part 2 comes out for new songs
that I'm very happy with. So keep an eye out for that on
Instagram at the Glass Studios or Spotify at Jackson Glass.
Mr. Nick. Well, I'm also doing stuff on

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the Internet. I'm uploading YouTube videos
about anime and sometimes not, well, usually always about
anime. And that's every Wednesday
except for December, because it's not because I'm busy.
And then also on Twitch playing video games.
I think we're starting Doom Eternal this week.

(45:54):
There will also be some Fortnitestreams in December, because
that new season looks dope and they're doing a Demon Slayer
collab so that's at least two streams.
That's a good word this month ontwitch so and then if you can't
check cab, if you can't catch iton twitch, you sure can catch
all of the twitch vods on my second YouTube channel nick with

(46:15):
no K vods that's NWNK vods so nice all of my stuff goes there.
You don't have to watch them, but you should.
You should, because that's good.Watch out, because.
It's good watch time so other than that though I got nothing.
All right, so Moana, thank you for listening.
Thank you for listening. We're happy you're here.

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Moana 2 the the highest Thanksgiving opening weekend box
office of all time. Of course you get he got the low
battery right? Keep going, keep going.
I'll just keep going. So guys, Moana 2, I saw it in
theaters Thanksgiving Day and I would just like to open up by
saying this movie genuinely pisses me off so much for so

(47:01):
many reasons. General review to start, I gave
it two out of five, four out of 10.
Generally it was it was so also spoilers for Moana too.
By the way. I don't know if you care or if
you just seen it, but whatever spoilers go.
It was so interested in reminding you of what happened

(47:26):
in the 1st movie that it didn't have any time to do anything new
even though they had like 5 new characters that they really
could have explored and were really interesting characters
that I liked a lot. No, we would it be way funnier

(47:46):
just to let Dwayne Johnson make the same chicken joke that he
did in the first one. It should be like, hey,
remember, remember when we made that good movie like 8 years
ago? That was funny, right?
And you're like, why did I pay $12.00 to watch you reference a
movie I could have watched at home?
Yeah, like, that is genuinely sostupid.
And the whole the whole thing, it felt very rushed.

(48:08):
I felt like there were no stakes.
My, my biggest complaint really was that they, the whole point
was like, Oh my gosh, our peopleare going to die out if you
don't go find this island. And I was like, yeah, but also,
like, it takes a while for a population to die out.

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Like, this doesn't feel like a really pressing issue.
Like, maybe eventually you should go find this island.
But she's like, I've been gone on this voyage, and I came back,
but then the ancestors told me to go, you know, find this other
place. And I'm also I'm like this movie
relied on the ancestors talking to her so much and it was like

(48:58):
if they didn't know where to take it, they would just re
guide all the characters by Oh well, the ancestors said this,
so we should just go do that. It was such a Deus Ex machina
just to like re redirect everyone and just like put them
on the right path. And then like Maui was there and
he and Moana had this really weird dynamic in there where

(49:21):
they were kind of like best friends, but like they had like
a sibling thing. But also there was like a weird
tension sometimes that I was like, what's the what is this
like? Because in the first one, like I
know that it the whole point, the whole ass point of the movie
was they were like, oh, they've been through so much together

(49:43):
and they've like they have this bond now and they're like best
friends, this whole thing. And I was like, I didn't get
that from the first movie at all.
Like I really don't feel like they've like been through it in
the way that this movie portrayed.
So I don't know. It is overall enjoyable.
I don't think the animation was as bad as people have been

(50:05):
talking about. I think that's being a little
too critical because the animation isn't awful.
It's not as good as the first one.
But also this was originally just going to go straight to
Disney Plus in a series. So like it, it looks fine.
It doesn't look bad, so I don't know.
The the music was genuinely awful, genuinely awful.

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The story was really rushed. I'm going to get into a lot of
the specifics later. I gave it two stars because
there was like there were some funny moments, like I actually
laughed a couple times and there's some really good humor.
The voice cast did really great.Actually, I thought they had a
very good. All the singers did phenomenal.
Like none of the bad songs were the singer's faults because

(50:50):
actually like all of the singersdid quite well.
I just thought what they were given was like not publishable.
Like we we owe Lin Manuel Miranda an apology because he
his pen is unmatched. Like you can call him cringe if
you want. His pen is unmatched.
True. So anyway, that's my general

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thoughts. It was.
It's not the end of the world, but I'm just kind.
I'm just really upset that such a such an afterthought movie got
them so much money, especially when we when we get into the
ethics of how it was made, whichwe'll get into in a minute.
So what are your general thoughts on this movie?
OK, so generally speaking, I tried to go in with his open

(51:35):
mind as I could because I had seen a lot of posts on Twitter
that were saying this was like the perfect sequel and improved
on the 1st movie in every way, shape or form imaginable.
And then there were other posts that were like, this is the
worst thing I've ever seen. It should not have ever been
made like, and there was no in between like.

(51:57):
So I went into it and I was like, OK, let's judge the movie
on its merit. It's not what the randos on
Twitter say. And I thought it was pretty
good. I gave it three stars because I
felt like it was enjoyable enough and I had a good time.
And I really, really like this movie conceptually in terms of

(52:21):
execution. Not so much conceptually though,
of like Moana having to go out and like reconnect all these
people and find this island of the ancestors and bring in all
of these other people groups from the sea.
Like I think that was such a great idea because it is like in
the very beginning when she found that pot that had the
people on it, it was like, Oh yeah, that makes sense.

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That's something you kind of didn't think about in the 1st
movie. But like, these are native
island people. So like of course there's going
to be a bunch of others out there.
So like, right, going and tryingto find them and connect them
and have that community. I think it's great.
And I also think it made a lot of sense that she brought these
new characters with, because if you just did Maui, you'd

(53:09):
basically just be doing the first movie over again.
Right. So.
But then. The movie really felt like it
wanted to do the first movie over again.
Yeah. But at the same time, like I
feel like Maui wasn't in it enough but I wanted him in it
more but I wanted him in it lesslike.

(53:32):
I understand. Like, I think you're right.
I was expecting more based on what the trailers had shown.
Yeah. But then the moment he was
there, I was like, please stop talking.
Please just. Shut up, he's so annoying.
Please stop. You're annoying now.
It's not funny. Like, yeah, it's not the same
kind of like charmingly annoyingthat it was in the first movie.

(53:56):
Well, the thing that I saw it with my whole family and I sat
next to Logan, who's a a friend of the show.
If you watched our guessing bad movie poorly described movies
episode and he his the best takethat I heard was he said this
movie has the worst case of erm,that just happened.

(54:18):
Oh, it did I. Think, I think that's part of
the reason Maui was so annoying because anytime he did something
he was like nailed it. And I was like, is this 2010?
Like we're not. We don't say nailed it.
Can't be or gonna be that way. Can I get a chihoo and I'm like
shut? Stop.

(54:39):
Stop or everything would be like, Oh no, we have to, it's
the Kakamora. Oh and then like oh, she gets
shot in the butt and it's like dude, what the actual?
No line. No line in this movie bothered
me more than the Kaka Morris showing up and her being like

(55:01):
Kaka and then the guy finished and then faint.
No line bothered me more than that in the movie because I
just, I can't stand when they dothe like, finish your line.
Yeah. It is like the most Disney
Channel odd dialogue. Like it's like watching it

(55:22):
hurts. And it's like watching an
episode of like Girl Meets World.
It is genuinely like, so painful.
He's right behind me, isn't he? He's right behind me, isn't he?
There was literally every line in this movie was delivered like
that. And I just can't.
It's like, oh gosh, we have to save the island.

(55:44):
It was giving big like, we need one more big adventure to save
the island from extinction. Come on, gang.
You know what movie did that really well, actually?
What? The Muppets, Yes, literally.
Because they so good, because they leaned into, they leaned
into the joke, right? And they were making fun of it.

(56:08):
And so it's just like it was, itwas cringe.
But also, here's the thing. Moana was originally a Disney
Plus original series. The second one, are they a
movie? The second.
The second one, Yeah. Moana 2 was originally a Disney
Plus series that they realized would make more money if they

(56:30):
stitched all the episodes together and threw it to
theaters. And here's why I'm mad.
They're right, because Moana pulled in a $57.5 million on
Wednesday and 28 million on Thursday, making it the biggest
Thanksgiving Day release of all time.

(56:51):
And that sucks because this movie was so low effort because
it was originally a Disney Plus original series, which means
this movie had three directors, by the way.
And guess what? Are any of them the original
director of the original movie? No, now this movie has three

(57:13):
directors and guess what? This is a triple directorial
debut, believe it or not. No way.
Yes, everyone. All of the former credits on all
three of these directors was either animation supervisor or
like some other random tech roleor like storyboard artist.

(57:38):
And so like, like one of them was like animation supervisor on
Zootopia. And like, I think one of them
worked on like Frozen. And so it's like, it's kind of
like the guy that walks in with the coffee and they're like, you
make a Moana too. And he's like, oh, OK.
And he's like. Pomp of the cinephile, I'll be
like. No, literally.

(58:00):
So it was just like they gosh. And so when you put this in a
Disney Plus context, it wouldn'tbe terrible.
No, you're like, all right, sure.
Like it's it, but it's just on Disney Plus.
Like your standard is so low when you toss it to the
theaters. We want to see something good in
the theatre. There's a different standard to

(58:22):
this. And I really, really don't like
they're kind of throwing these people under the bus because
they're like kind of like, you know, everyone's talking about
how garbage the songs are. And so like, are these people
going to be able to write again in Hollywood?
Like granted they will because this movie made $57.5 million on

(58:45):
the on the pre release so. So.
This is why I'm so frustrated. To to, to bounce back to your
thing here about, yeah, dipping quality, right?
I think what Disney has done here is so dastardly.
It's so evil. It's like mustache twirling

(59:08):
villain type of plot. We're going to make a Moana TV
series for Disney Plus and use this as advertising to boost
Disney Plus. And then we're not going to
release it until five years in. But because we've already gotten
people on the hook for Disney Plus, we're going to change the
movie and we're going to make ita movie instead of a series.

(59:31):
But we've already had these TV show animators working on it
outsourced to Canada or some other country.
So we already don't have to pay them as much because they're in
a different country. We already don't have to pay
them as much because they're working on an original streaming
show. But we're going to stitch these
episodes together and we're going to make bank.

(59:53):
Step one, cheat your animators. Step 2, stitch it together as a
movie. Step 3, Profit.
What can I say? This is like.
Some Scrooge Mcduck crap, no like.
This is and it's really stupid because I dude I could not
imagine being an animator at theWalt Disney Animation Company

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when they announced Moana 2 as amovie, which I'm sure internally
they knew a long like way beforewe did.
They knew this was intentional. I could not imagine being
someone who worked on the 1st Moana and being told that, hey,
this sequel to your highly successful movie is now going to
be outsourced as ATV show to a different studio.

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Like we're not even going to letyou do the TV show.
I'd be like, OK, whatever, I'll make my peace with it.
Like, but then to be told that said TV show is getting turned
into a sequel to your movie? I'd be.
I would be livid. Bro that's terrible.
OK, also the original directors of Moana, which side tangent,

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Moana is awesome. Like the first movie is
genuinely phenomenal. It's one of my favorite Disney
animated movies. Like it's in my top ten.
Like it is so good. The music, like the music is
really good in the first one. Like I really have a lot of
heart and nostalgia for the original Moana.

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Guess who directed the original Moana?
John Musker and Ron Clements. All right, they're directing duo
have been at Disney for a long time.
You know what else they what? You know what movies that these
two people worked on together? They worked on The Black
Cauldron, The Great Mouse Detective, The Little Mermaid,
Aladdin, Hercules, Treasure Planet, and The Princess and the

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Frog. Dude, that's a goaded lineup.
That is a goaded lineup. There is no like This is why the
movie was freaking good, becausethey got freaking good people.
And then like you can say what you want about Lin Manuel, the
the songs are bangers. When he's writing songs for
someone else, they're good. Yeah, when he's writing like,

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they're good. Like like you're welcome is
corny and it's very Lin Manuel. But Lin Manuel writes really
good songs for people that Can'tSing because he Can't Sing.
So like giving that song to Dwayne Johnson was perfect.
And it's very, it's very Lin Manuel.
It's very the kid. Honestly, I could go on and I
can't explain every natural phenomenon, the tide, the grass,

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the ground. I took a deal.
I buried. It's got spite of the tree now
you got coconuts. Like, that is very him, but it
worked because, you know, he wasn't like going to give Dwayne
Johnson this Broadway piece because he can't do that.
But like the people, I'm just like, genuinely.

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So I'm so upset that this is what we've come.
To for Disney, you know, like I said earlier, is, is embolic of
the Disney company as a whole. Like it's, it's a very
creatively bankrupt company at this point because everything is
either a sequel or a live actionremake.

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And every time they do somethingnew, they sure do their darndest
to make sure you don't know about it.
Like every time they try to do some new project like Turning
Red or Light Year or Elio, whichI did see the trailer for Elio,
it looks pretty good. I want to go see it really good.
They're letting Pixar do original stuff.
But even then, I'll be darned ifthey actually market it or put

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it out in theaters 'cause you know, Turning Red for what you
what, what you'll say about thatmovie, right?
Same for Luca, same for Seoul. Movies not great Not.
Great, those 3 movies got shafted to Disney Plus, which
were terrible for those movies because like, I don't like two
of them. But I will say that putting them
on Disney Plus is very disingenuous to like do trying

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to do original stuff. And then what you're putting out
in theaters is a live action Lion King prequel that nobody
asked for. Live action Lilo and Stitch.
That's the same age as me by theway.
And two weeks ago, set pictures came out from the live action
Moana. Why?

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What are you doing? Yeah.
I am getting to a point where I hate Disney.
I say that as I have my, you know, Disney mug, my jacket and
my hat on. I'm like, dude, Disney sucks.
Man Disney is the absolute worst.
That's why my rock and roller coaster magic man stays on me
24/7. It's just such bad decisions and

(01:04:38):
I there's there's nothing wrong with taking movies or TV shows
and turning them into the other.We saw that with the Kenobi
series was supposed to be a movie, but then they felt like
they needed more time so they turned it into ATV show.
You can argue about the quality on that.
Same for Falcon and The Winter Soldier was supposed to be a

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movie and then it got turned into ATV show.
And I think if they wanted to turn Moana 2 into a movie, that
is a that's a decision that should have been made at the
writing level, at the script level, because you know, when
you finish a script, whether or not that's going to sustain an

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entire hour and a half long movie or if it's going to like
sustain a long TV show length. So I don't understand where in
the process they were like, all right, we're turning this into a
movie like, well. Here's what's so here's what's
so frustrating is you could sew one.
I could pretty clearly tell where episodes started and ended

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just because of like, the ebb and flow of the story.
But I'm also wondering, like, was the show longer?
Because this, the story was veryundercooked.
Like there was so much like, it looks like they were gonna do so
much and then didn't. And it was like, oh, we're gonna

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add like 10 new characters and none of them get any screen
time. And they're like, oh, we're
going to wait to show Maui untillike, And it's like. 45 minutes
in. Right.
Which like would have made sensein ATV context to be like, whoa,
Maui's not here to episode 3. Like we're on the journey to
find him, but we get like flashbacks of him.

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Like that's so cool. Right, like you said it, so like
in those first couple episodes of him going out, even the first
episode, the big him going out, finding her get caught and then
he's gone for two or three episodes until you get to him.
That makes sense. But.
That's how TV shows work. In an hour and a half long movie
when there is no clear divide and it just keeps going, that
feels weird for this like main character who's on the poster.

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By the way, I don't think any ofthose side characters are on the
poster. I'm in a Fact Check.
But like, maybe they are like they sure.
Aren't promising that he's there.
They sure aren't. They're also can I say something
that will sound weird but it's genuinely just how I feel.
Barely on the Japanese poster. Someone in this movie should

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have died. OK.
There was. OK, can we can we talk about?
I really thought they were goingsomewhere with the whole like
Maui losing his tattoos and losing his demigod status.
I really thought they were goingsomewhere with that of like, oh,

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he's going to have to like, yeah, like he sacrificed himself
to pull this island up so that she could reunite the people.
Like that's a really great. I think right.
Great story choice. And then he just boom.
And then they just. Reversed him back.
I was like. Why what?
Also I have like 2 qualms 1 How did his power come back?
How did he lose his power in thefirst place?

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How did he lose it in the first place?
Two, what did pulling up that stupid island even do?
Like, have they all booted within like 50 feet of each
other this whole time? They just didn't know.
Like it's kind of like, it's like if you destroy City Hall,
everyone still knows where everything is.
Like that's not, that's not how this works.
Because they pull the island up and then like 15 seconds later,

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like all these boats come in andit's like.
Magic. I have AI have a personal theory
that wayfinding isn't that hard.Moana's just the only one that's
tried. I think they're all just.
Scared. No, you're real.
You're real for that. I think it's also I thought it
was cool, but I also feel like their whole thing with killing

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Moana and then bringing her backlike they.
Weren't going to kill. Her there were so many better
ways to do that. I think it's cool that she has
like the tattoos on her hand nowand she like has some kind of
like wayfinding magic. I think that was cool.
But like, I don't know, there was was a much better way to to
do that than have her get struckby the lightning.

(01:09:08):
Well, it's very like, it's, it's, it's stupid.
Like there was no sacrifice. There was no, there was no
stakes and then there was no sacrifice and then there was no
resolution. And then it was, it was like,
we're all going to freaking die if she doesn't find this island.
Oh, she found the island. She's going to freaking die.
You will the kid. Oh, she's fine.

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Oh, we're going to oh, no, we'reall together.
Oh, she's what if she dies? And her sister, Oh no, she's
back. She's fine.
I didn't really like her sister.I thought her sister was cute.
Like that was her sister was cute.
Little dynamic to add because she was just very like this
little kid who just loves her big sister so much.
Like it was wholesome. I love that.
I thought her sister was great. I I thought the direction they

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were going to go was her sister was going to sneak on the boat
and go with. Oh, that would have been so
interesting. Or I thought the sister was
going to get taken and they weregoing to try to.
They had to go save her. And I think either of those
directions would have been so much more interesting because
the whole point is like, she hasto be back to so her sister can

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save her. And I was like, I've seen her
sister on screen for maybe 120 seconds.
And so like, I could not really care less.
And so it was really frustratingbecause they pushed so hard in
their advertising to be like, Moana has a sister now.
And it's so like, so important. And then it was just kind of
like, I don't want to disappointmy sister was like her whole

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motive. And it was like, OK, I guess.
Is it is it just me or did it feel like this movie was lacking
a villain? It really didn't have a villain
like even. That's a really good point.
That Lady who like I don't even remember her name, I thought she
was going to be. I thought, and my sister said

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this too, is when we left the theatre is I thought she was
intentionally leading Moana astray because the whole vibe of
that song was like, there's always another way.
Like you can just get lost, da da da, da da.
And it's like I thought the moral quandary was going to have
to be Moana goes down, gets lost, and then has to like,

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actually navigate back in the right direction to find the
thing, not unlocking a secret shortcut to the thing.
It feels like it genuinely felt like the Mario like cave level
where you like find the secret tube now that you have a new
power up like it was like you. Can get to world.

(01:11:40):
Eight also right you you get thecannon that shoots you to world
8:00 and you're just like what? Also that was so the whole clam
thing like where they got underground.
That was clearly an episode. It was so clearly like, oh, this
is the side quest episode where we're going to get, you know,
stuck in this. Play, but then they had to make
it part of the main plot becauseit became a right And then I'm.

(01:12:04):
Like, uh oh. I was just like, oh.
We weren't ever. I just, I hated that she wasn't
a villain because she wasn't loyal to the guy or the guy or.
Whatever, like who was supposed to like were they setting up
that he will be a bigger? Villain later, yeah, I that mid
credits scene was absolutely like a mid season break or a

(01:12:28):
season 2 team of like, well, nowMoana is going to have to go
against all of the gods or the the whatever.
Like there was a whole subplot there and I'm like, that's great
if you made it ATV show, becausewhat you've done now is you've
either set up ATV show or you'veset up a third movie, which.
Would none of us. Want giving either pattern

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recognition will be ATV show that gets turned into a third
movie down the line so. Yeah.
I don't know, I'm just getting, I'm just getting real sick and
tired of movies not having genuine villains.
Like give me the good old mustache twirling.
I'm evil because I'm evil. Like, come on, man.

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Well having those having those villains would mean Disney would
have need some sort of self identification because they are
currently the the villains. Yes, they currently are the
mustache twirling villains, so they'd have to have some level
of self-awareness. The biggest villain for this
movie is The Walt Disney Company.
Like that is just kind of where we're at.

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Would you? Consider wish had an antagonist.
No, because. I mean, I feel like the king was
antagonistic. He was.
He was a villain. Antagonistic.
He was a villain, but not a goodone.
No, not he was. Still, there's a lot of things
really good about that movie. No, but he was a step back

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towards that. Like original villain.
Direction type. That was a step in the right
direction, but like it was more like a tiptoe.
In the right direction? Yeah, like it wasn't.
Great, But no. But it was better than whatever
this was. Better than emotional family
trauma, being the villain of like in context.
Right. Swear, Lord of Mercy.

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OK, here's my other thing. Like in the first Moana, I
thought Moana was like, she was really cool and she was like
learning her way and it was like, oh, I have to grow to
learn this and I have to like, you know, this is new to me.
I felt like Moana as a characterwas so freaking annoying in
Moana too. And I can't really like

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establish what it what it is about her.
I felt like she was so far up her own butt that I couldn't
like relate to anything at all. And so she was like, what if I
go on this journey? What if who's going to raise my
sister? And I was like, you're parents.
You have two parents who are literally royalty.

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You have two parents who are alive.
You're doing a lot better than most Disney parents.
I was like, you have two parentsthat are not only alive, but
they're literally like royalty on this island.
Your sister is going to be more than OK.
Like do not. She gives herself, like, she
gives herself so much credit, like, for everything.
And it's kind of like, I have tofind this island and I have to

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go by myself. I'm just going to bring my pig
and my chicken. And I'm like, shut up.
You're such an idiot. Like just bring a crew.
Like I don't know. And I know that's the whole
point is it's like learning to let others help you in love.
But it was like her crew literally didn't do anything.
Like you know where I bet they got to do stuff?

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In the show, in the. TV show where you could have had
an episode where each of them got their own time to shine with
their individual characteristicsthat she brought them on the
boat for. Tell me everything that you knew
about her crew at the beginning and everything you knew at the.
End At the beginning, I knew they were somewhat important
because they got their own specific lyrics and verses in

(01:16:06):
that opening song. And like we kept going to their
location in the song and I was like, oh OK, she's going to like
bring them on. Also, I'd seen the trailer so I
know they were there. What you know about them is that
the other girl likes to build boats, the other guy is a Maui
fanboy, and the old guy does notlike water and is very old and

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grumpy. And then by the end of the
movie, the girl still likes to build boats.
The guy is an even bigger Maui fanboy and the old guy is
slightly less grumpy and that isit.
That's literally it. That is nobody.
Develops in this movie. No, there is no character
development whatsoever. And here's The thing is, I was

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very open to a Moana sequel because they built a really
great world that could expand sofar, yes, just like there would
be, right? Right.
There's so much like Frozen 2 isa great example of a good sequel
that just expanded the world. And that was like, there was
really great music. The original cast was all there
and it was the same directors like it.

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Like I would even argue that Frozen 2 is better than the
first Frozen. Yeah, like, I think the songs
are better. And so it's like there was so
much potential there, which Frozen 2 was originally the
largest Thanksgiving opening weekend of all time.
So like, I'm going to jump off the.
I hate the box office records isjust Disney beating themselves

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at this point. Right.
No, it's. Like there's no competition
anymore, it's just them. It's it's.
Just that if The Lion King prequel thing makes a billion
dollars, I'm out. No, no, I'm out.
I can't do this anymore. I can't do this anymore.
I want to go home. Do you know how much hype?
That movie would have behind it if it was an animated movie.

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That's what I'm saying. And that was like their big
animated like. People are opposed to more Lion
King. They're opposed to doing the
most lifeless photorealistic animation style ever.
Here's the thing, so many peoplewould be so nostalgic for that
movie too. If it was animated and you like,

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made it look somewhat similar tothe original Lion King.
And then it could go in the category of like Lion King 1 1/2
and Lion King 2 and like, dude. Now that's a billion dollar
movie like. Well, this prequel is probably
going to be a billion dollar movie and I'm going to hate
every second of it. Come on Sonic Three baby, you're

(01:18:36):
our own. Come on.
Sonic baby so I think we're we're kind of wrapping up here.
I'd I would like to take a second to talk about the music
specifically because this is what genuinely this is what made
me the most angry. Go for it about this movie is so
if you don't know the Lin ManuelMiranda wrote a lot of the songs

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for the first movie and however you feel about Lin Manuel
Miranda, those songs are very good.
Those songs are very, very good.Now, of course, since it was
originally a series, why would you pay Lin Manuel to do a
Disney Plus original series? That is so fair, makes so much
sense. So the people that did the music
for this movie where Abigail Barlow and Emily Baer.

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Now if you do not know who thosepeople are because I sure
didn't, they are known for theiraward-winning album, the
unofficial Bridgerton musical, which started on TikTok and won
a Grammy in 2022 for best soundtrack, now best.

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It was like best like Broadway album or there's some super
specific category for like Broadway stuff.
Here's the thing. So Abigail Barlow and Emily Baer
are the youngest people to ever write songs for a Disney movie.
They're like 23 year old, 223 year old girls that were just

(01:20:04):
writers on TikTok and they got pulled into this movie.
Sorry, they got pulled into the show that is now a movie.
I hate it here. And I just genuinely, so here's
the thing, producers were Marc Machina and I'm going to butcher
this name because it's like a Samoan name.
So I'm not even going to try. But it's like Opit Opitia full

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It's go look it up. Marc and Opitia is like a Samoan
composer and an American composer.
Here's the thing, the composition was really great.
I felt like even even the song, the songs that stood out to most
to me was beyond in the sense ofI thought they're like

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composition. And the chords progressions that
they were using in that song were really outside of what
Disney has done before. And I thought that was really
unique and really creative. And they really pulled a lot
more of the Samoan influence in this movie than the first one.
And I thought it was really awesome and really cool.
My problem is this is I think the lyrics of Wish were better

(01:21:15):
than Moana Two. If I can be so bold.
Oh, that's so hard. Because here's the thing though,
half the wish songs felt like they were written by AI.
Yeah, at least these were written by real people.
OK, but here's the thing. Like what's that song in Wish

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where he's like I will protect you?
At all costs, I think that's theBest Song.
That is the Best Song in the album, even though it was
written for a completely different context.
That's a good song. And then there's like maybe one
more good thought, one that I thought was good.
I don't think there is a single memorable song in Moana too, no.

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Like, you know when you leave the theater and you like have
the song and you're like, oh, I have to play the soundtrack in
the car? Like when, you know, Moana came
out and we were all jamming to, we were all jamming to you're
welcome and you're welcome. We know the way and how far I'll
go. Like we were all excited about
that. Literally my sister and I left

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and we turned on the Moana soundtrack.
We didn't even turn on the second one.
There was not a memorable song in that movie.
Not like a single ear worm because at least with wish you
had like this is the thanks I get like.
That song's not. Great, but it's catchy.
It's catchy. It's a catchy song.
So. So many of these songs, they

(01:22:38):
were in my, my, my, my, like, kind of what I narrowed down
about why I don't like them is they're so wordy.
Like they didn't, they were, they all feel like Draft 1.
And this is coming from someone like I've, I've written a lot of
songs and I think they're OK. I think they're pretty good.

(01:23:00):
If you go listen to Jackson Glass on Spotify, you may
disagree, but I I write mostly rap where the whole like there's
an AJR song that I think is really good where he was like, I
think rappers get it easy because they got so much to say,
but they can say so much in likeso little time.
And I think they they really we're like, we're not Lin Manuel

(01:23:25):
Miranda, but we're going to try our darndest to sound just like
him. And the only thing worse than
Lin Manuel Miranda is fake Lin Manuel Miranda.
And it was like their idea was every song needs a fast rap part
just like Lin Manuel Miranda. Yep, and that's that is such a
surface level. Understanding.

(01:23:46):
Of like understanding of his music, like he's not just, oh, I
got to go fast. Like that's not him at all.
He's a storyteller. Like you have to craft the words
to tell the story. And I think I think the biggest,
the biggest song that I had an issue with being wordy was what

(01:24:07):
could be better than this? Do you understand how many words
that is for a hook, like the hook of a song being what could
be better than this? That's so many words, like a lot
of words. If you were doing like a rap
song and you were like, what could be better than this Da da
da, Like maybe, but as like a song song, it was so awkward and

(01:24:33):
it like none of the words fit within their bars, you know, And
so, and even then, like they gave the engineer lady like this
super fast rap part that just I had no play.
Like it was obviously like, Hey,you like, you're welcome.
We're going to do another rap part and you're going to love

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it. And it's like, no, because Lin
Manuel Miranda knows how to use rhyme schemes, unlike these
other people who genuinely, I think it was I need to go back
and find it. There was a song.
Can I get a chi who? Which Like another painfully
long title, but another painfully, painfully long title.

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There was one point and I need to find it 'cause I haven't
listened to the song again since.
I genuinely felt my fist clench in the theater because they did
a three bar rhyme scheme and literally none of the words
rhymed. It was like.
It was like they definitely thought they cooked on this like
triple rhyme, but none of the words actually rhymed.

(01:25:47):
And I was like genuine genuinelygenuine question, are you
stupid? Like the, the, the Internet is
available. Go to wordhippo.com and find
rhyme schemes. It's not that hard to use a
triple bar rhyme scheme that doesn't work is just so

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genuinely infuriating. And the fact that like, this is
kind of what I was talking aboutwith Wicked is it's like, do you
know why Wicked's good? Because Stephen Schwartz wrote
it. He's one of the most like iconic
writers and like composers of all time.
He wrote the original show of Wicked and they brought him back
for the movie to make sure it was perfect.

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I'm not saying they just like I'm not saying they necessarily
needed Lin Manuel on this movie to make it good.
That's not the point at all. The point is the alternative is
not these random TikTok Bridgerton people because they
obviously don't know how like how to do a movie musical

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because the the, the songs were very, they thought they were
telling a story and they were not.
It was like very like operatic theatrical, like didn't have to
rhyme. It was more of like telling the
story. But the lyrics.

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This is the lyrics to the opening song.
Sailing from the horizon back toour home, our island coming into
view beneath the morning sky. Let's break that down a little
bit. Sailing from the horizon back to
our home, our island. What do you get from that?

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Literally it's like. We are here from beyond the
horizon, going home to her island.
Coming into our view beneath themorning sky.
Well, the island's coming into view, you know, beneath the
morning sky. Right there is there is not a
single lyric in this movie that has subtext at all.

(01:27:57):
It is like literally the openingsong is I'm sailing home to my
island and. Here I am.
That's it. Here I am.
I'm on the island. OK, we're back.
Let me ask you this genuinely doyou feel like this quality level
of music would be acceptable fora Disney Plus series?

(01:28:17):
Yes. I would, I would forgive this
kind of music in a Disney Plus original because I'd be like,
yeah, it's a Disney Plus original.
I think the way they did this movie was also incredibly
disingenuous to the people who did work on it because now their
work is being judged against Moana, Encanto, Zootopia, Frozen

(01:28:40):
Frozen to like you. That's not what I signed up for.
That's not fair. Man, I didn't sign up to be
compared to these Titans of animation.
Hold on a second. Let's.
Back up that would be like, thatwould be like if I signed up to
play like on a high school football team and then they were
like, actually, we want you to play in the Super Bowl actually.

(01:29:02):
We're going to the NFL, actually.
We need you to play against the Patriots.
Please have fun. And it's like, hold on.
Wait, wait, wait, wait. So just can just in conclusion,
this movie is terrifying becauseit's genuinely really, really
bad in every single way. It was made with the most shady

(01:29:26):
business practice possible. It was so unethical and so as a
as a creative, so frustrating and terrifying.
Because it worked and they won. Because they got their ginormous
box office when I'm and it worked.
Really interested to see and kind of terrified actually.

(01:29:48):
Actually, before I before I say that, there is one good song on
the soundtrack. Oh do.
You want to guess what it is? Let me look at the soundtrack.
I'm on geniuslyrics.com right now.
It's only one good song, is it? Are you going to say get lost?

(01:30:09):
No, I'm going to say we know theway at the very end, the reprise
of the song from the first movie.
I was going to, I was going to talk about that.
I was like the the smack in the face to play that song.
At the end to play this song from this movie that you
actually like. I was like, no, dude, that's
that's disgusting. That's disgusting.

(01:30:30):
I wonder if Lin Minimal Miranda got a credit for that because he
technically wrote the original song but it's also like he also.
Wrote The Little Mermaid remake,so like he you know he's not.
Well, half the music completely.It's all for him on that one.
No, you're right. The ones that he wrote, that's
not a flex. Horrible.
But yeah, what I was going to say before I tinted there was

(01:30:55):
I'm very interested and honestlya little nervous to see if they
do this with the Tiana series now that this has done so
because the Tiana series is currently in the same flux state
that Moana 2 was, where it's like, we know it's happening,
but we haven't heard about it inlike 5 or 6 years.

(01:31:16):
So it could legitimately be anything.
It could be another movie, it could be the TV show they told
us we were going to get. And I know they're still
actively working on it because that's part of the reason they
did. The whole re theme of Splash
Mountain was to like thrust Princess and the Frog a little
bit back into the cultural zeitgeist and then do this

(01:31:40):
series. And I think they were supposed
to come out a lot closer to eachother.
And it was also supposed to be 2D animated like the movie was.
And then Disney changed that cause Disney is now allergic to
doing anything 2D animated. By the way.
They're like 2D animation. You know when we built our
entire legacy? Terrible 3 DCG that junk all day

(01:32:05):
long. Get it in there, Go.
Make it look as photo realistic as possible.
If it's not photo realistic lions or poor quality streaming
original content, I don't want it.
What's the point? Get it out of here.
Gosh. Conclusive thoughts.
This movie was OK. There were some things that were
good and there were some things that were bad.

(01:32:28):
Like I said, conceptually, I think this movie is incredible
from a conceptual standpoint. But after that, I mean, the
execution's not great. But I also think it's hard
because you can't say we can't judge it as a Disney movie
because they released it as a Disney movie, regardless of what

(01:32:48):
the original intention. Was they slapped their tag on
it? They they.
Quality approved this and they said, Yep, that can go next to
the rest of our great sequel movies.
So you kind of have to judge it like that when that's not what
it was built for. So like the foundation of it
cannot stand to the criticism that it's been put up for.

(01:33:09):
It's like putting a motorhome ina tornado.
Like, of course it's not going to hold up, but like, are you
going to get mad at the motorhome or you're going to get
mad that somebody threw a motorhome into a tornado?
Like, right, your expectation should have been a little lower.
So I don't know, I just, I'm very concerned about Disney's

(01:33:30):
future, but. I could.
I could go on for so long. When haven't we?
Conclusively in it in a chamber,this movie is fine.
It's not nothing to write home about, but if you just like want
something for the kids, like putit on.
It's not the worst. But like when you zoom out and
look at the whole picture, it's genuinely scary the the way that

(01:33:52):
it was made, the way it was distributed, the money
laundering, yet just we just watched it occur.
This is like genuine. This is how money laundering
works. They play people less, they use
the same budget as they did for the first movie, but they pay
people less to do it in Canada. Where'd the rest of that money
go? You can't tell me I went to
marketing. I'm telling you, Disney Plus is

(01:34:15):
a money laundering. Scheme it has to be how there
has to. Be at this point, how is it not
anyway, that's that's kind of how I feel.
If you want to go watch it, if you like it, that's fine.
I just like I have, I have high standards for Disney because I
know what they can do. And so when they, when they
don't do well, I I feel the needto call them out on it because

(01:34:38):
you can't, I think. That's what makes this so
frustrating is like and even like to go back to the park
stuff too, like Disney in general.
What sucks is you know that theycan.
They just don't want. To they can make these
incredible movies. Encanto was only three years
ago. That was a good and.
That was an incredible movie. Inside Out was a couple of

(01:35:01):
months ago and it was a really good movie.
So you know that they can. It's a simply a choice to not
because it's less effort and still yields the same amount of
money. So why would you put in the
extra effort if it's not going to guarantee you anything extra?
And that is what's really frustrating.

(01:35:22):
Do you think Disney's quiet quitting?
No, I feel like I think they're very loud, everything.
Do you think everyone at Disney is just quite a quitting
honestly? No, but I have seen Bob Iger's
dissent from Grace of like. I remember when he came back

(01:35:43):
after Bob Chapeck. We were like praying.
And everyone's like, he's back. We're like everything's going to
be good. And it's exponentially gotten
worse. Slowly.
Faster. It's like, just like the
election, you know? Yeah, I don't know, man.
We really thought we were cooking there and then something
happened and it was like. Like, I don't know man.
Anyway, Anyway. Well.

(01:36:04):
Don't watch it in theaters untilit's on Disney Plus.
Watch it this way. God intended you to.
Watch. Watch it how it was intended on
Disney Plus. Never catch me saying that about
literally anything else. Stick it to the man.
Don't watch it in theaters. Watch it on Disney Plus.
Pirate it. No, I'm.
Just kidding. Wow.
All right, hold on. That's illegal.
That's illegal. Don't do that.
That was a joke. That was a joke anyway.

(01:36:26):
Well, thank you for listening tothis episode of the Nerdiest
Podcast. We said we were going to do an
hour 15, and we're currently at an hour like 35.
So we're getting better. We're getting better.
We're trying to bring it down. It could.
Have been a lot worse. It could have been a lot worse.
So thank you so much for listening to this episode.
If you enjoy what you see here, make sure you give us a five
star review on Spotify, Apple podcast or Amazon or wherever

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Let us know if you want anythingelse to cover.
We're we're kind of wrapping up the year guys.
That's so sad. Guys, listen, you got to go.

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Follow us on YouTube. Only six more Subs to 1000.
Six more Subs to 1000 we're getting very close so if.
All three of our channels hit 1000 by the end of the year.
Jackson and I have to play FNAF on stream.
You still have time. Did we say that?
I think we said that. Oh, you OK?
Well, we can. I'm at like, OK, cool.
I'm at like 860 something. I also like I'm at 8:23.

(01:37:33):
I I had to take such a break. School got so busy.
But I'm about to make a triumphant comeback.
Good. Now that I'm going to be on
break. So thank you so much for
watching. We will see you in the next
episode. Until then.
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