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June 17, 2025 63 mins

In this episode, entrepreneur and longevity finance expert John Sabes joins Coach Woody to explore the powerful intersection of money, mindset, and health—and why real wealth is about more than just your bank account.


With over 35 years of experience in the financial industry and a passion for longevity science, John shares why understanding your financial literacy is just as critical as understanding your DNA—and how both shape your odds of living a longer, healthier, happier life.


Together, John and Coach Woody explore:

✅ The link between financial wellness and lifespan

✅ Why financial literacy is a form of self-care

✅ How most retirement planning is built on outdated models

✅ What the Blue Zones teach us about true wealth

✅ The difference between being financially rich and living a wealthy life

✅ How gene expression and epigenetics impact your future health

✅ Why “investing” in health today reduces future expenses

✅ How to compound physical, financial, and emotional well-being—on purpose


This episode is a must-listen for anyone who wants to redefine wealth on their own terms. Whether you’re 28 or 58, John’s insights will challenge the way you think about retirement, happiness, and what it means to live a truly rich life.


🔔 Don’t forget to follow the show for more conversations that challenge the hustle, elevate purpose, and redefine high performance.

✨ Stay connected:

LinkedIn: Coach Lucas Woody

YouTube: @TheNextBetter

Website: ⁠https://nextbetter.com⁠


⏱️ Timestamps:


00:00 – What do your DNA and 401k have in common?

03:45 – The Venn diagram of longevity, money, and happiness

06:12 – Why we’re not taught the language of money

10:40 – Financial shame, ego, and emotional literacy

13:15 – Wealth vs. financial wealth: What’s the difference?

17:02 – What the Blue Zones reveal about health and happiness

22:05 – How longevity planning could transform financial services

26:44 – The retirement fallacy: What no one’s talking about

30:00 – Healthy aging is cheaper aging

33:00 – The mindset shift that makes health an investment

36:15 – Little deposits that compound a wealthy life

40:25 – Wealthy doesn’t mean rich—it means expanded

45:00 – Where to start: daily action for lifelong wealth

50:20 – The story of John's mother—and why time is the real treasure

56:00 – Don’t wait for a wake-up call. Choose to live well now.

59:30 – Who the book Healthy Wealthy Longevity is really for


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