February 7, 2023 • 20 mins
Norah and Dad resolve two huge cliffhangers -- the results of the first rounds of Norah's mock trial competition, and the fate of Freckles the Toad.
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Dad (00:00):
Hey Nora,
Norah (00:01):
he did.
Dad (00:02):
do you know how a toad gets to heaven?
Norah (00:05):
It dies.
Dad (00:08):
It croaks.
Norah (00:10):
I don't get it.
Dad (00:12):
You know like when when someone dies, you say they
croaked and toad's.
Croaked.
That's the noise.
They make it
Norah (00:20):
I didn't know you said that when people
Dad (00:22):
Oh, well,
Norah (00:24):
I do now.
Dad (00:26):
then you didn't, then you didn't get that.
You didn't get the tow joke.
Norah (00:30):
No, I didn't.
Dad (00:32):
what are we talking about this week?
Norah (00:35):
we're just gonna give people some.
Dad (00:50):
Welcome back to the Nora and Dad Show.
I am dad, otherwise known asJohn, otherwise known as dad,
and I am here with my lovely andtalented 16 year old daughter.
Nora, what's popping Nora?
Norah (01:07):
Please don't say what's popping.
Dad (01:09):
Why
Norah (01:11):
not a fan?
Dad (01:13):
not a fan of what he's saying.
What's popping?
Norah (01:16):
Yeah,
Dad (01:17):
what's Kraken?
Norah (01:19):
say?
Like what's crack lacking?
That's more dad
Dad (01:22):
What's Kraka?
Lackin?
What's the faux chisel?
Norah (01:26):
Don't say that.
please.
Dad (01:30):
How are you Nora
Norah (01:32):
It's pretty good.
Excellent.
It's not like zero degrees out,which is cool.
Dad (01:38):
Yeah, it was fairly warm today, which is nice.
We got to your mom and I got totake the dogs on a nice long
walk, which was lovely foreverybody cuz they might behave
themselves tomorrow now.
Um, so
Norah (01:51):
in a row.
They're gonna
Dad (01:52):
yeah, I, I know that's what we do.
We walk, we walk the dogs.
That's how we get our exercise.
It's good for you.
You should try it sometime.
It's fun.
Norah (02:02):
I don't like doing it in winter.
I'll happily take the dogs on awalk in the spring, summer and
fall, but I can't do the cold.
Dad (02:09):
But it wasn't winter today.
It was like almost 50 degreesoutside.
That is almost spring-likeweather,
Norah (02:14):
But it's still cold weather.
Dad (02:16):
still coat weather.
Norah (02:18):
Yeah.
Dad (02:19):
I'll be, this time tomorrow I'll be in Florida weather,
which I am
Norah (02:23):
It's mean
Dad (02:24):
somewhat excited about and somewhat not
Norah (02:26):
not.
I'm very antico.
Dad (02:29):
why I won't be wearing a coat in.
Norah (02:32):
Well, I wish I didn't have to wear a coat in Ohio.
Dad (02:36):
Well, you do.
As long as you live in my houseand it's below freezing, you
gotta wear a
Norah (02:40):
just inconvenient.
Dad (02:42):
What about a coat is inconvenient?
Norah (02:45):
It's just something to schlep around during the school
day.
Dad (02:48):
Put it in your locker
Norah (02:49):
what's the point of having it then?
Dad (02:52):
because you put it in your locker and then when you need
it, you go to your locker andget it.
And then you put it on the backof your chair, and then when
you're done with it, you go putit back into your.
Norah (03:00):
My coat is so long though that it just drags on the floor
if I put it on, uh, chair.
Dad (03:06):
Okay.
Norah (03:07):
I just don't like coats
Dad (03:08):
are the floors like super dirty?
No.
So what's the big
Norah (03:11):
they're not clean.
And I have a
Dad (03:13):
Sure they are.
Norah (03:13):
wanna ruin it.
Dad (03:15):
Well, you're not gonna ruin it.
Norah (03:16):
I don't wanna get dirty.
Dad (03:18):
Wear a coat.
Norah (03:19):
No.
Dad (03:20):
This is your father speaking.
Wear a coat.
It's wintertime in Cleveland.
It's cold.
Norah (03:25):
Maybe it should just stop being cold.
Dad (03:28):
uh, it will.
So here's the way.
So
Norah (03:32):
I know how weather works, I'm learning about it.
Dad (03:35):
days a year, the earth navigates around the sun.
And as the earth rotates aswell, we get the seasons.
And so it is now February, andin about two months, it'll be
warm again, and you get like sixmonths of warm weather and then
it'll be cold again.
And that's how it.
Norah (03:53):
It's evil
Dad (03:55):
Science,
Norah (03:57):
Ecology.
Dad (03:58):
ecology, yeah, see it all.
It all comes together andexplains why in February and
Cleveland you should wear acoat.
So So we thought, this weeksince we had promised on our
last episode, that we would, wewould, solve some cliff hangers
for everybody.
(04:19):
We would, we would, giveeverybody the, the updates on
said cliffhanger.
So we left you with twocliffhanger.
Two weeks ago, and I'm gonna,I'm gonna recap in the order in
which we are going to resolvesaid cliffhanger.
So cliffhanger number one wasthe first round district
(04:44):
competition of the Ohio HighSchool mock trial where Lake
Ridge Academy fielded two teams,the blue team, or team one, and
the yellow team in team two.
And you are on the.
Norah (04:59):
you know,
Dad (05:00):
Well, I know, but the listeners don't I'm on the
yellow team, Cliffhanger numberone was how Lake Ridge fared in
the first round of the mocktrial competition.
And then cliffhanger number twois freckles.
The toad, the toad that momfound in the backyard and that
(05:21):
you brought inside and adopted,and, made a little.
Norah (05:25):
he alive?
Dad (05:27):
slash home for.
Yeah.
And we really couldn't tell whenwe were recording last week or
two weeks ago, freckles wasnewly in our house and we
couldn't really tell whetherFreckles was alive or was just
sleeping and or hibernating.
You did some crack internetresearch during the show and we
thought that freckles, eventhough, Freckles wasn't moving
(05:49):
what he
Norah (05:50):
Yeah, you can tell the Gender by their bell.
And freckles.
Yeah.
Dark belly.
Dad (05:55):
All right.
We will gender freckles.
Freckles.
That, freckles the male toadthat he, um, he wasn't moving,
but he might have been sleepingand or hibernating.
So we will update everyone onthe, the fate of freckles as
well.
But let's start with mock trial.
because, our team had a really,really, really, really good.
Norah (06:18):
day.
We did awesome on both teams.
Dad (06:20):
We kicked so much, but it was almost embarrassing.
Norah (06:26):
It was awesome.
I love mock trial I love mocktrial.
It's the best ever.
Dad (06:31):
do you want to give like the, the 32nd recap of what the
case is about?
Norah (06:37):
Okay.
There's this delinquent.
named Stevie Kahn, and hesupposedly put popping candy
inside of eggs at the school'salumni breakfast fundraiser, and
then was asked questions by thedean of students and the school
resource officer, but they werenever read their Miranda rights.
(07:00):
And it's a suppression hearing,um, trying to determine whether
or not the statements Steviemade.
Um, both with the SRO and withthe dean, if those are liable in
court since Stevie wasn'tMirandized.
My name's Blair and I'm a juniorat the high school that Stevie
(07:21):
and I go to and I'm the studentbody president
Dad (07:24):
And And Stevie's academic rival and the source of the
information that led the Dean ofStudents and the SRO to question
Stevie Khan.
Norah (07:32):
I'm just doing my job
Dad (07:34):
Just, there you
Norah (07:34):
student body president
Dad (07:36):
There you
Norah (07:36):
keeping the school safe.
Dad (07:38):
So we had, um, two trials between the, or four trials
rather, between the two teams.
So we, we fielded two teams, ablue team and a yellow team.
Each team has a prosecution sideand a defense side.
So four trials, two teams, andout of the four trials there
was.
Judges that we saw across thefour trials and out of those 11
(08:00):
judges scorecards, our team won10 out of the 11 scorecards.
Norah (08:04):
My trial was the one where we didn't win one
Dad (08:06):
yeah, we split your trial.
Um,
Norah (08:09):
Better to split than to lose.
Dad (08:11):
you got it.
And there's awards that aregiven out for best attorney and
best witness in each trial.
So four trials, so eightpossible awards, four best
lawyers, and four bestwitnesses.
And now to the eight possibleawards, available Lake Ridge one
seven.
So all in
Norah (08:27):
my team that did not win the best Witness award
Dad (08:31):
I thought, I thought you got robbed.
Norah (08:33):
I did too, but.
Dad (08:34):
I, I thought you got robbed.
I'm not going to, um, I'm notgonna publicly speak ill of any
other team.
I just, I thought you gotrobbed, but, I'm also
incredibly, biased in myassessment of things.
But, yeah, it was a really,really good day for mock trial.
There are, Kids on your mocktrial team that are playing the
roles of lawyers that are betterthan a lot of lawyers I've seen
(08:56):
in actual court hearings.
It's really impressive to
Norah (09:00):
They know their stuff.
Dad (09:01):
I'm really excited to see how we do in the district round
coming up February seven orregionals rather.
February 17th is the next round,the regionals.
And if we advance there, then wego on to states in Columbus in
the middle of March, and thenhopefully bring a state
championship back to Lake Ridge.
Norah (09:23):
I think at least one of our teams will advance, if not
both.
Dad (09:27):
Um, I think both our teams have an excellent chance in
advancing.
I mean,
Norah (09:33):
I do too, but I think if, if we don't advance, I think it
would still, I think still oneteam would advance.
Dad (09:39):
I, I, yeah, I mean I think it's almost a lock that one team
advances.
I think it, I would, it, itwould, if I was betting on, if
the bet was no teams, one teamor two teams advancing onto
states, I would bet, I would bettwo teams.
And
Norah (09:54):
Oh, I would bet
Dad (09:55):
I'm biased.
I've just been, I've just beenwatching you guys do this for a
long time and, and you all arereally, really good at what you
do.
And.
I got to see some of the otherteams, including some of the
teams that you, that youcompeted against that advanced,
onto the next round as well.
And I just, I just thinkobjectively, I think you guys
are better.
So, uh, my money is on, is onboth the lakeridge teams going
to states, but that is not inour control.
(10:18):
We go, we, we try our case andwe do the best we can.
Norah (10:22):
Oh,
Dad (10:22):
And those chips fall.
And those chips fall where theyfall.
What's that?
Norah (10:25):
that?
It's so fun.
Dad (10:27):
It
Norah (10:27):
I wish being a witness was like a real job.
Dad (10:32):
If you could be a professional witness,
Norah (10:34):
I mean, I could just be an expert witness, but that
takes a lot more effort.
Dad (10:38):
there are, there, you could be an exp as one way to be a
professional witness.
The other way is, is just to getsued a lot or sue people a lot.
But that's no fun.
Norah (10:47):
yeah, it's also expensive.
It's an expensive hobby.
Dad (10:50):
It's, it is an, it is, yes.
Being, being a professionallitigant is a, is a very ex, is
a very expensive hobby.
Yeah.
So you could also go to lawschool and be a.
Norah (11:00):
No, but I wanna be a witness.
That's the fun part.
Dad (11:03):
Okay.
The fun part's being thewitness.
So by the time this podcastcomes out on Tuesday, I think
we'll have our assignments for,uh, for, uh, regionals by then,
or.
Norah (11:14):
Are you gonna Zoom?
because we'll be in Florida.
Are you gonna zoom into ourpractice?
Dad (11:21):
Oh, I don't know.
It's a really good question.
I'll have to talk to, um, Mr.
Patala about how we do that.
that is a possibility.
It depends on where I am.
I'm given a, I'm giving apresentation, Tuesday afternoon.
So, it depends on where I am inrepresentation.
If I'm presenting at the sametime as, what's that?
Norah (11:36):
that said?
You probably won't be able to bethe judge.
Dad (11:38):
I will not be able to be the judge for our scrimmage on
Tuesday.
I might be able to pop in andsay hello from, from Fort
Lauderdale, but it depends Ifyou practice is the same time as
I'm giving my presentation atthis conference, I'm going to.
So, moving on.
Do you wanna give everyone theupdate on freckles?
Norah (11:57):
can I have a drum roll?
Freckles is, Very dead
Dad (12:04):
He's so dead.
Norah (12:06):
He, when we went to check on him after the podcast, his
body had already gone into rigormortis.
He was as hard as a rock andvery cold and very dead
Dad (12:16):
We, we came out of recording two weeks ago, right
about this time on a Sundaynight.
And we were so excited that, wehad just talked about freckles
and we had this greatcliffhanger and how cool it was
gonna be to, have the story of,because I was convinced after
all your research that freckleswas just sleeping and that was
not infected dead.
And yet wow.
(12:36):
He was really dead.
Norah (12:37):
his skin was fading in color.
His eyes were wide open.
Dad (12:42):
He couldn't, he could not have been more dead than he
Norah (12:47):
but you know what?
Dad (12:48):
He was the most dead towed ever.
Norah (12:50):
had a happy 24 hours in our.
In next winter we can saveanother tote if the opportunity
comes to us.
Cause I have all the materials.
Dad (13:00):
he had a happy 24 hours.
Was it a, was it a happy 24hours or a happy 24?
Norah (13:07):
He wasn't doing very much hopping, I don't think.
He moved once from when webrought him in and then when he
passed.
Dad (13:15):
Yeah, freckles was, he was not long for this planet.
And I mean, you did a nicething, you, you rescued a toad
from the harsh Cleveland.
Winter and the vains that areout in the wilderness of our
backyard, I guess, and tried tosave him.
(13:35):
But he really, he, he, he was sodead
Norah (13:39):
he would've died sooner if he stayed outside.
Dad (13:43):
possibly, possibly.
We'll never know.
But either
Norah (13:46):
got a little extra
Dad (13:47):
wasn't gonna change.
He got a little, what
Norah (13:49):
He got maybe like a little bit of extra time.
Dad (13:52):
did he eat?
Any of the worms that you.
Norah (13:56):
When I rinsed out the container, I did not see any
worm.
So either they did a really,really good job hiding in the
soil or he ate them.
Dad (14:05):
Oh, all right, so he had a May.
Maybe he had a last.
Norah (14:08):
Oh, that's so sad.
Dad (14:11):
It's not what I would've picked for my last meal.
What would your last meal be?
If you, if you knew you weregoing, this is such a morbid
question, but if you knew youwere going to die like tomorrow,
please don't die tomorrow.
Cause I'm gonna make thispodcast really awful, but, and
other things really awful too.
But what would your last meal beif you got to pick your last
supper?
Norah (14:32):
Lobster, mac and cheese.
Dad (14:34):
Okay.
Norah (14:35):
Uh, Shirley Temple.
Um, raspberries.
Dad (14:43):
Okay.
Norah (14:44):
And Mitchell's ice cream.
Dad (14:47):
Okay.
Norah (14:48):
I don't know what flavor that, that would depend on my
mood.
Dad (14:52):
Hmm.
I would go,
Norah (14:54):
if I knew I was dying.
But
Dad (14:57):
I would go um, barbecued ribs with a really nice bottle
of red wine and.
Yeah, and tiramisu for dessert.
Norah (15:10):
What's your favorite?
Dad (15:12):
it's my favorite dessert, probably Tiramisu.
Norah (15:14):
Really
Dad (15:15):
Love a piece of tea.
Yep.
Norah (15:17):
I like ice
Dad (15:19):
Yeah, ice cream is good.
Tiramisu ice cream, which I justhad also really good.
Norah (15:23):
two coffee.
E
Dad (15:25):
Two coffee, eat.
Norah (15:26):
Mm-hmm.
Dad (15:28):
Well, I like the coffee e when I was a little child.
Um, my grandmother used to feedme coffee.
I would sit at her feet onSunday dinner, we'd go to, uh,
grandma and grandpa's house forSunday dinner, and I would sit
at her feet at the dining roomtable, and she would spoon feed
me coffee out of her coffee cupafter dinner,
Norah (15:47):
How old were you?
Dad (15:49):
probably like.
Norah (15:51):
I feel like babies aren't supposed to have caffeine.
Dad (15:53):
That's what they always said, that they would, the
caffeine would stunt my growth.
And I'm five seven, so maybe itdid.
Who knows?
Norah (16:00):
Well, I guess we'll never know.
Dad (16:02):
that's we'll ne, we'll never know.
So I don't have a time machineto go back and not drink the
coffee from my grandma.
Norah (16:10):
Was it like non
Dad (16:12):
the world will never know.
Norah (16:13):
Creamer.
Coffee.
Dad (16:15):
think there was, I was black.
I think there was sugar.
Norah (16:17):
Okay,
Dad (16:19):
I believed there were sugar in it.
It was good.
I still like coffee, so thereyou go.
Norah (16:24):
go.
Yeah.
Now you like no sugar,
Dad (16:27):
You're black, only black, So, so you think you'll try and
rescue another toad next year?
Norah (16:31):
I mean, I won't go hunt one out cuz they're better in
their natural environment.
But if we stumble across onethat's struggling, yes.
Dad (16:39):
Okay.
Norah (16:40):
I don't wanna purposely take one out of its environment
if it can live in it.
Dad (16:45):
Okay, well, freckles, we hardly knew you.
There was no toad resurrectionin our house.
The Toad religion will have towait for another time.
There will be no toad worshipgoing on.
At least not in our house, uh,anytime soon.
Norah (16:59):
You know, we didn't wait three days.
Dad (17:01):
did he jump outta the garbage cam when you rolled it
out for G?
For a garbage?
Norah (17:05):
I don't know.
Dad (17:07):
Okay.
Norah (17:07):
I'm just saying we didn't wait for three days.
Dad (17:10):
we did not.
We did not.
Wait, so, so what you're sayingis we should have put, we should
have put freckles in a cave andthen put a little rock in front
of it and then moved the rockthree days
Norah (17:18):
He had a little cave.
I, I bought him a little cave.
We just need a little rock.
Dad (17:22):
So we just should have put freckles in the cave and then
put a rock in front of.
Norah (17:25):
Yes.
Dad (17:26):
And then if we came back in three days and freckles was no
longer there, then told Jesus,
Norah (17:31):
Yes.
Dad (17:32):
okay, well,
Norah (17:34):
when I go to college, no one religious listens to this
podcast.
Dad (17:39):
well I really hope when you go to heaven, you meet freckles,
ands, um, so he can say Thankyou for trying to do a nice
thing for him.
Norah (17:47):
oh, that'd be nice.
Dad (17:49):
Yeah.
May
Norah (17:50):
fly high.
Dad (17:51):
maybe may, maybe, um, maybe cross some of those Catholic
schools or Christian schools offyour list.
if people are gonna listen toour podcast.
Norah (17:58):
John Carroll for me.
Dad (18:00):
No.
John Carroll?
No.
Ohio Wesleyan.
What else?
Norah (18:03):
Oh, are they religious?
Dad (18:04):
Yeah, it's a Christian school.
Norah (18:06):
Mr.
Art didn't tell me that.
Dad (18:07):
I believe they're, I believe they're cur, you gotta
look it up.
But I believe they're, I believethey're Christian of some
miscellaneous Christiandenomination.
Norah (18:14):
If this episode disappears between, uh, fall and
spring of 20 23, 20 24, you guyswill know why
Dad (18:25):
So listen now, download it for posterity.
Norah (18:28):
Yep,
Dad (18:30):
All right.
Anything else you wanna add?
Norah (18:33):
Fly high freckles.
Dad (18:35):
Bye.
Freckles.
Norah (18:36):
2023 to 2023.
Dad (18:39):
We, hardly knew ya.
Yeah.
2023 to 2023.
Norah (18:44):
I guess we dunno how old he was.
Maybe he was just really oldwith,
Dad (18:48):
can you, can, can you count the rings on his legs?
Is that how you tell how old atote is?
Norah (18:52):
I don't know.
Dad (18:54):
Ow.
all right.
Well, freckles of somemiscellaneous age and we think a
dude, but maybe not.
Um, we hardly knew you.
Sorry.
Um, all right, Nora Marie, wherecan people find you if they
would like more information onyou?
On the old interwebs?
Norah (19:13):
Nora Marie Music.
You can find me there.
Dad (19:17):
And you have some, uh,
Norah (19:19):
I have so many shows
Dad (19:20):
gigs coming up.
A lot booked for The through thesummer, but, uh, March 3rd at
Front Street Social in Berea,March 30 at the old wine cellar
in Olmstead Falls.
Norah (19:32):
these dates better than I do.
I could not name these off thetop of my head.
Dad (19:35):
think that's my, yeah, my memory's like an elephant, I
think.
I think that's it for theimmediate future and then, but I
know there's more.
If you go to Normy Music andclick on the gigs tab, it gives
you all the dates and locationsfor everything that's booked so
far through.
I think you have dates bookedthrough like July, I think, and
more to come.
So,
Norah (19:55):
yes, many more to come.
Dad (19:57):
More to come.
You can, uh, find me at JohnHyman, find her, um, at Norm
Marie Music, and we will be backin two weeks with another
episode of the Nora and DadShow.
Everyone have an
Norah (20:11):
mock trial update, right?
Dad (20:13):
and more mock trial updates to come as we move on to the
next
Norah (20:16):
Oh yeah.
No, that'll be perfect timing.
Dad (20:18):
It will be all right everyone.
Have a good Fortnite and we'llsee you in a, in a couple weeks.
Love.
Norah (20:24):
you.
Love you too.
Hey Nora,
Norah (00:01):
he did.
Dad (00:02):
do you know how a toad gets to heaven?
Norah (00:05):
It dies.
Dad (00:08):
It croaks.
Norah (00:10):
I don't get it.
Dad (00:12):
You know like when when someone dies, you say they
croaked and toad's.
Croaked.
That's the noise.
They make it
Norah (00:20):
I didn't know you said that when people
Dad (00:22):
Oh, well,
Norah (00:24):
I do now.
Dad (00:26):
then you didn't, then you didn't get that.
You didn't get the tow joke.
Norah (00:30):
No, I didn't.
Dad (00:32):
what are we talking about this week?
Norah (00:35):
we're just gonna give people some.
Dad (00:50):
Welcome back to the Nora and Dad Show.
I am dad, otherwise known asJohn, otherwise known as dad,
and I am here with my lovely andtalented 16 year old daughter.
Nora, what's popping Nora?
Norah (01:07):
Please don't say what's popping.
Dad (01:09):
Why
Norah (01:11):
not a fan?
Dad (01:13):
not a fan of what he's saying.
What's popping?
Norah (01:16):
Yeah,
Dad (01:17):
what's Kraken?
Norah (01:19):
say?
Like what's crack lacking?
That's more dad
Dad (01:22):
What's Kraka?
Lackin?
What's the faux chisel?
Norah (01:26):
Don't say that.
please.
Dad (01:30):
How are you Nora
Norah (01:32):
It's pretty good.
Excellent.
It's not like zero degrees out,which is cool.
Dad (01:38):
Yeah, it was fairly warm today, which is nice.
We got to your mom and I got totake the dogs on a nice long
walk, which was lovely foreverybody cuz they might behave
themselves tomorrow now.
Um, so
Norah (01:51):
in a row.
They're gonna
Dad (01:52):
yeah, I, I know that's what we do.
We walk, we walk the dogs.
That's how we get our exercise.
It's good for you.
You should try it sometime.
It's fun.
Norah (02:02):
I don't like doing it in winter.
I'll happily take the dogs on awalk in the spring, summer and
fall, but I can't do the cold.
Dad (02:09):
But it wasn't winter today.
It was like almost 50 degreesoutside.
That is almost spring-likeweather,
Norah (02:14):
But it's still cold weather.
Dad (02:16):
still coat weather.
Norah (02:18):
Yeah.
Dad (02:19):
I'll be, this time tomorrow I'll be in Florida weather,
which I am
Norah (02:23):
It's mean
Dad (02:24):
somewhat excited about and somewhat not
Norah (02:26):
not.
I'm very antico.
Dad (02:29):
why I won't be wearing a coat in.
Norah (02:32):
Well, I wish I didn't have to wear a coat in Ohio.
Dad (02:36):
Well, you do.
As long as you live in my houseand it's below freezing, you
gotta wear a
Norah (02:40):
just inconvenient.
Dad (02:42):
What about a coat is inconvenient?
Norah (02:45):
It's just something to schlep around during the school
day.
Dad (02:48):
Put it in your locker
Norah (02:49):
what's the point of having it then?
Dad (02:52):
because you put it in your locker and then when you need
it, you go to your locker andget it.
And then you put it on the backof your chair, and then when
you're done with it, you go putit back into your.
Norah (03:00):
My coat is so long though that it just drags on the floor
if I put it on, uh, chair.
Dad (03:06):
Okay.
Norah (03:07):
I just don't like coats
Dad (03:08):
are the floors like super dirty?
No.
So what's the big
Norah (03:11):
they're not clean.
And I have a
Dad (03:13):
Sure they are.
Norah (03:13):
wanna ruin it.
Dad (03:15):
Well, you're not gonna ruin it.
Norah (03:16):
I don't wanna get dirty.
Dad (03:18):
Wear a coat.
Norah (03:19):
No.
Dad (03:20):
This is your father speaking.
Wear a coat.
It's wintertime in Cleveland.
It's cold.
Norah (03:25):
Maybe it should just stop being cold.
Dad (03:28):
uh, it will.
So here's the way.
So
Norah (03:32):
I know how weather works, I'm learning about it.
Dad (03:35):
days a year, the earth navigates around the sun.
And as the earth rotates aswell, we get the seasons.
And so it is now February, andin about two months, it'll be
warm again, and you get like sixmonths of warm weather and then
it'll be cold again.
And that's how it.
Norah (03:53):
It's evil
Dad (03:55):
Science,
Norah (03:57):
Ecology.
Dad (03:58):
ecology, yeah, see it all.
It all comes together andexplains why in February and
Cleveland you should wear acoat.
So So we thought, this weeksince we had promised on our
last episode, that we would, wewould, solve some cliff hangers
for everybody.
(04:19):
We would, we would, giveeverybody the, the updates on
said cliffhanger.
So we left you with twocliffhanger.
Two weeks ago, and I'm gonna,I'm gonna recap in the order in
which we are going to resolvesaid cliffhanger.
So cliffhanger number one wasthe first round district
(04:44):
competition of the Ohio HighSchool mock trial where Lake
Ridge Academy fielded two teams,the blue team, or team one, and
the yellow team in team two.
And you are on the.
Norah (04:59):
you know,
Dad (05:00):
Well, I know, but the listeners don't I'm on the
yellow team, Cliffhanger numberone was how Lake Ridge fared in
the first round of the mocktrial competition.
And then cliffhanger number twois freckles.
The toad, the toad that momfound in the backyard and that
(05:21):
you brought inside and adopted,and, made a little.
Norah (05:25):
he alive?
Dad (05:27):
slash home for.
Yeah.
And we really couldn't tell whenwe were recording last week or
two weeks ago, freckles wasnewly in our house and we
couldn't really tell whetherFreckles was alive or was just
sleeping and or hibernating.
You did some crack internetresearch during the show and we
thought that freckles, eventhough, Freckles wasn't moving
(05:49):
what he
Norah (05:50):
Yeah, you can tell the Gender by their bell.
And freckles.
Yeah.
Dark belly.
Dad (05:55):
All right.
We will gender freckles.
Freckles.
That, freckles the male toadthat he, um, he wasn't moving,
but he might have been sleepingand or hibernating.
So we will update everyone onthe, the fate of freckles as
well.
But let's start with mock trial.
because, our team had a really,really, really, really good.
Norah (06:18):
day.
We did awesome on both teams.
Dad (06:20):
We kicked so much, but it was almost embarrassing.
Norah (06:26):
It was awesome.
I love mock trial I love mocktrial.
It's the best ever.
Dad (06:31):
do you want to give like the, the 32nd recap of what the
case is about?
Norah (06:37):
Okay.
There's this delinquent.
named Stevie Kahn, and hesupposedly put popping candy
inside of eggs at the school'salumni breakfast fundraiser, and
then was asked questions by thedean of students and the school
resource officer, but they werenever read their Miranda rights.
(07:00):
And it's a suppression hearing,um, trying to determine whether
or not the statements Steviemade.
Um, both with the SRO and withthe dean, if those are liable in
court since Stevie wasn'tMirandized.
My name's Blair and I'm a juniorat the high school that Stevie
(07:21):
and I go to and I'm the studentbody president
Dad (07:24):
And And Stevie's academic rival and the source of the
information that led the Dean ofStudents and the SRO to question
Stevie Khan.
Norah (07:32):
I'm just doing my job
Dad (07:34):
Just, there you
Norah (07:34):
student body president
Dad (07:36):
There you
Norah (07:36):
keeping the school safe.
Dad (07:38):
So we had, um, two trials between the, or four trials
rather, between the two teams.
So we, we fielded two teams, ablue team and a yellow team.
Each team has a prosecution sideand a defense side.
So four trials, two teams, andout of the four trials there
was.
Judges that we saw across thefour trials and out of those 11
(08:00):
judges scorecards, our team won10 out of the 11 scorecards.
Norah (08:04):
My trial was the one where we didn't win one
Dad (08:06):
yeah, we split your trial.
Um,
Norah (08:09):
Better to split than to lose.
Dad (08:11):
you got it.
And there's awards that aregiven out for best attorney and
best witness in each trial.
So four trials, so eightpossible awards, four best
lawyers, and four bestwitnesses.
And now to the eight possibleawards, available Lake Ridge one
seven.
So all in
Norah (08:27):
my team that did not win the best Witness award
Dad (08:31):
I thought, I thought you got robbed.
Norah (08:33):
I did too, but.
Dad (08:34):
I, I thought you got robbed.
I'm not going to, um, I'm notgonna publicly speak ill of any
other team.
I just, I thought you gotrobbed, but, I'm also
incredibly, biased in myassessment of things.
But, yeah, it was a really,really good day for mock trial.
There are, Kids on your mocktrial team that are playing the
roles of lawyers that are betterthan a lot of lawyers I've seen
(08:56):
in actual court hearings.
It's really impressive to
Norah (09:00):
They know their stuff.
Dad (09:01):
I'm really excited to see how we do in the district round
coming up February seven orregionals rather.
February 17th is the next round,the regionals.
And if we advance there, then wego on to states in Columbus in
the middle of March, and thenhopefully bring a state
championship back to Lake Ridge.
Norah (09:23):
I think at least one of our teams will advance, if not
both.
Dad (09:27):
Um, I think both our teams have an excellent chance in
advancing.
I mean,
Norah (09:33):
I do too, but I think if, if we don't advance, I think it
would still, I think still oneteam would advance.
Dad (09:39):
I, I, yeah, I mean I think it's almost a lock that one team
advances.
I think it, I would, it, itwould, if I was betting on, if
the bet was no teams, one teamor two teams advancing onto
states, I would bet, I would bettwo teams.
And
Norah (09:54):
Oh, I would bet
Dad (09:55):
I'm biased.
I've just been, I've just beenwatching you guys do this for a
long time and, and you all arereally, really good at what you
do.
And.
I got to see some of the otherteams, including some of the
teams that you, that youcompeted against that advanced,
onto the next round as well.
And I just, I just thinkobjectively, I think you guys
are better.
So, uh, my money is on, is onboth the lakeridge teams going
to states, but that is not inour control.
(10:18):
We go, we, we try our case andwe do the best we can.
Norah (10:22):
Oh,
Dad (10:22):
And those chips fall.
And those chips fall where theyfall.
What's that?
Norah (10:25):
that?
It's so fun.
Dad (10:27):
It
Norah (10:27):
I wish being a witness was like a real job.
Dad (10:32):
If you could be a professional witness,
Norah (10:34):
I mean, I could just be an expert witness, but that
takes a lot more effort.
Dad (10:38):
there are, there, you could be an exp as one way to be a
professional witness.
The other way is, is just to getsued a lot or sue people a lot.
But that's no fun.
Norah (10:47):
yeah, it's also expensive.
It's an expensive hobby.
Dad (10:50):
It's, it is an, it is, yes.
Being, being a professionallitigant is a, is a very ex, is
a very expensive hobby.
Yeah.
So you could also go to lawschool and be a.
Norah (11:00):
No, but I wanna be a witness.
That's the fun part.
Dad (11:03):
Okay.
The fun part's being thewitness.
So by the time this podcastcomes out on Tuesday, I think
we'll have our assignments for,uh, for, uh, regionals by then,
or.
Norah (11:14):
Are you gonna Zoom?
because we'll be in Florida.
Are you gonna zoom into ourpractice?
Dad (11:21):
Oh, I don't know.
It's a really good question.
I'll have to talk to, um, Mr.
Patala about how we do that.
that is a possibility.
It depends on where I am.
I'm given a, I'm giving apresentation, Tuesday afternoon.
So, it depends on where I am inrepresentation.
If I'm presenting at the sametime as, what's that?
Norah (11:36):
that said?
You probably won't be able to bethe judge.
Dad (11:38):
I will not be able to be the judge for our scrimmage on
Tuesday.
I might be able to pop in andsay hello from, from Fort
Lauderdale, but it depends Ifyou practice is the same time as
I'm giving my presentation atthis conference, I'm going to.
So, moving on.
Do you wanna give everyone theupdate on freckles?
Norah (11:57):
can I have a drum roll?
Freckles is, Very dead
Dad (12:04):
He's so dead.
Norah (12:06):
He, when we went to check on him after the podcast, his
body had already gone into rigormortis.
He was as hard as a rock andvery cold and very dead
Dad (12:16):
We, we came out of recording two weeks ago, right
about this time on a Sundaynight.
And we were so excited that, wehad just talked about freckles
and we had this greatcliffhanger and how cool it was
gonna be to, have the story of,because I was convinced after
all your research that freckleswas just sleeping and that was
not infected dead.
And yet wow.
(12:36):
He was really dead.
Norah (12:37):
his skin was fading in color.
His eyes were wide open.
Dad (12:42):
He couldn't, he could not have been more dead than he
Norah (12:47):
but you know what?
Dad (12:48):
He was the most dead towed ever.
Norah (12:50):
had a happy 24 hours in our.
In next winter we can saveanother tote if the opportunity
comes to us.
Cause I have all the materials.
Dad (13:00):
he had a happy 24 hours.
Was it a, was it a happy 24hours or a happy 24?
Norah (13:07):
He wasn't doing very much hopping, I don't think.
He moved once from when webrought him in and then when he
passed.
Dad (13:15):
Yeah, freckles was, he was not long for this planet.
And I mean, you did a nicething, you, you rescued a toad
from the harsh Cleveland.
Winter and the vains that areout in the wilderness of our
backyard, I guess, and tried tosave him.
(13:35):
But he really, he, he, he was sodead
Norah (13:39):
he would've died sooner if he stayed outside.
Dad (13:43):
possibly, possibly.
We'll never know.
But either
Norah (13:46):
got a little extra
Dad (13:47):
wasn't gonna change.
He got a little, what
Norah (13:49):
He got maybe like a little bit of extra time.
Dad (13:52):
did he eat?
Any of the worms that you.
Norah (13:56):
When I rinsed out the container, I did not see any
worm.
So either they did a really,really good job hiding in the
soil or he ate them.
Dad (14:05):
Oh, all right, so he had a May.
Maybe he had a last.
Norah (14:08):
Oh, that's so sad.
Dad (14:11):
It's not what I would've picked for my last meal.
What would your last meal be?
If you, if you knew you weregoing, this is such a morbid
question, but if you knew youwere going to die like tomorrow,
please don't die tomorrow.
Cause I'm gonna make thispodcast really awful, but, and
other things really awful too.
But what would your last meal beif you got to pick your last
supper?
Norah (14:32):
Lobster, mac and cheese.
Dad (14:34):
Okay.
Norah (14:35):
Uh, Shirley Temple.
Um, raspberries.
Dad (14:43):
Okay.
Norah (14:44):
And Mitchell's ice cream.
Dad (14:47):
Okay.
Norah (14:48):
I don't know what flavor that, that would depend on my
mood.
Dad (14:52):
Hmm.
I would go,
Norah (14:54):
if I knew I was dying.
But
Dad (14:57):
I would go um, barbecued ribs with a really nice bottle
of red wine and.
Yeah, and tiramisu for dessert.
Norah (15:10):
What's your favorite?
Dad (15:12):
it's my favorite dessert, probably Tiramisu.
Norah (15:14):
Really
Dad (15:15):
Love a piece of tea.
Yep.
Norah (15:17):
I like ice
Dad (15:19):
Yeah, ice cream is good.
Tiramisu ice cream, which I justhad also really good.
Norah (15:23):
two coffee.
E
Dad (15:25):
Two coffee, eat.
Norah (15:26):
Mm-hmm.
Dad (15:28):
Well, I like the coffee e when I was a little child.
Um, my grandmother used to feedme coffee.
I would sit at her feet onSunday dinner, we'd go to, uh,
grandma and grandpa's house forSunday dinner, and I would sit
at her feet at the dining roomtable, and she would spoon feed
me coffee out of her coffee cupafter dinner,
Norah (15:47):
How old were you?
Dad (15:49):
probably like.
Norah (15:51):
I feel like babies aren't supposed to have caffeine.
Dad (15:53):
That's what they always said, that they would, the
caffeine would stunt my growth.
And I'm five seven, so maybe itdid.
Who knows?
Norah (16:00):
Well, I guess we'll never know.
Dad (16:02):
that's we'll ne, we'll never know.
So I don't have a time machineto go back and not drink the
coffee from my grandma.
Norah (16:10):
Was it like non
Dad (16:12):
the world will never know.
Norah (16:13):
Creamer.
Coffee.
Dad (16:15):
think there was, I was black.
I think there was sugar.
Norah (16:17):
Okay,
Dad (16:19):
I believed there were sugar in it.
It was good.
I still like coffee, so thereyou go.
Norah (16:24):
go.
Yeah.
Now you like no sugar,
Dad (16:27):
You're black, only black, So, so you think you'll try and
rescue another toad next year?
Norah (16:31):
I mean, I won't go hunt one out cuz they're better in
their natural environment.
But if we stumble across onethat's struggling, yes.
Dad (16:39):
Okay.
Norah (16:40):
I don't wanna purposely take one out of its environment
if it can live in it.
Dad (16:45):
Okay, well, freckles, we hardly knew you.
There was no toad resurrectionin our house.
The Toad religion will have towait for another time.
There will be no toad worshipgoing on.
At least not in our house, uh,anytime soon.
Norah (16:59):
You know, we didn't wait three days.
Dad (17:01):
did he jump outta the garbage cam when you rolled it
out for G?
For a garbage?
Norah (17:05):
I don't know.
Dad (17:07):
Okay.
Norah (17:07):
I'm just saying we didn't wait for three days.
Dad (17:10):
we did not.
We did not.
Wait, so, so what you're sayingis we should have put, we should
have put freckles in a cave andthen put a little rock in front
of it and then moved the rockthree days
Norah (17:18):
He had a little cave.
I, I bought him a little cave.
We just need a little rock.
Dad (17:22):
So we just should have put freckles in the cave and then
put a rock in front of.
Norah (17:25):
Yes.
Dad (17:26):
And then if we came back in three days and freckles was no
longer there, then told Jesus,
Norah (17:31):
Yes.
Dad (17:32):
okay, well,
Norah (17:34):
when I go to college, no one religious listens to this
podcast.
Dad (17:39):
well I really hope when you go to heaven, you meet freckles,
ands, um, so he can say Thankyou for trying to do a nice
thing for him.
Norah (17:47):
oh, that'd be nice.
Dad (17:49):
Yeah.
May
Norah (17:50):
fly high.
Dad (17:51):
maybe may, maybe, um, maybe cross some of those Catholic
schools or Christian schools offyour list.
if people are gonna listen toour podcast.
Norah (17:58):
John Carroll for me.
Dad (18:00):
No.
John Carroll?
No.
Ohio Wesleyan.
What else?
Norah (18:03):
Oh, are they religious?
Dad (18:04):
Yeah, it's a Christian school.
Norah (18:06):
Mr.
Art didn't tell me that.
Dad (18:07):
I believe they're, I believe they're cur, you gotta
look it up.
But I believe they're, I believethey're Christian of some
miscellaneous Christiandenomination.
Norah (18:14):
If this episode disappears between, uh, fall and
spring of 20 23, 20 24, you guyswill know why
Dad (18:25):
So listen now, download it for posterity.
Norah (18:28):
Yep,
Dad (18:30):
All right.
Anything else you wanna add?
Norah (18:33):
Fly high freckles.
Dad (18:35):
Bye.
Freckles.
Norah (18:36):
2023 to 2023.
Dad (18:39):
We, hardly knew ya.
Yeah.
2023 to 2023.
Norah (18:44):
I guess we dunno how old he was.
Maybe he was just really oldwith,
Dad (18:48):
can you, can, can you count the rings on his legs?
Is that how you tell how old atote is?
Norah (18:52):
I don't know.
Dad (18:54):
Ow.
all right.
Well, freckles of somemiscellaneous age and we think a
dude, but maybe not.
Um, we hardly knew you.
Sorry.
Um, all right, Nora Marie, wherecan people find you if they
would like more information onyou?
On the old interwebs?
Norah (19:13):
Nora Marie Music.
You can find me there.
Dad (19:17):
And you have some, uh,
Norah (19:19):
I have so many shows
Dad (19:20):
gigs coming up.
A lot booked for The through thesummer, but, uh, March 3rd at
Front Street Social in Berea,March 30 at the old wine cellar
in Olmstead Falls.
Norah (19:32):
these dates better than I do.
I could not name these off thetop of my head.
Dad (19:35):
think that's my, yeah, my memory's like an elephant, I
think.
I think that's it for theimmediate future and then, but I
know there's more.
If you go to Normy Music andclick on the gigs tab, it gives
you all the dates and locationsfor everything that's booked so
far through.
I think you have dates bookedthrough like July, I think, and
more to come.
So,
Norah (19:55):
yes, many more to come.
Dad (19:57):
More to come.
You can, uh, find me at JohnHyman, find her, um, at Norm
Marie Music, and we will be backin two weeks with another
episode of the Nora and DadShow.
Everyone have an
Norah (20:11):
mock trial update, right?
Dad (20:13):
and more mock trial updates to come as we move on to the
next
Norah (20:16):
Oh yeah.
No, that'll be perfect timing.
Dad (20:18):
It will be all right everyone.
Have a good Fortnite and we'llsee you in a, in a couple weeks.
Love.
Norah (20:24):
you.
Love you too.
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