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Katie Lovitt (00:00):
Hey guys, welcome
back to the Nourished and
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Thriving show.
So last week on last week'sepisode, we talked all about how
your skin can actually impactyour gut health.
And this is kind of an insideout way of looking at it.
It's not as commonly discussed.
But, but there's a lot ofscience that actually backs this
up and we really, you know,pretty well understand the ME
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mechanism behind it.
So I explained all of that inlast week's episode.
And I also in last week'sepisode, told you guys that we
really needed to have a part twoon that.
So, That's what we're doingtoday.
So like I said, if you missedlast week's episode, make sure
you go back and listen afteryou're done listening to this
one.
They're not dependent on eachother.
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So if you don't need to likepause this and go listen to that
one first or anything.
But it's definitely, like Isaid, a more unique perspective
than what we're talking abouttoday.
So I think you're going to get aton of value about it from it.
And I think you are going tohave some, you know, different
thoughts about Thank you.
what you're putting on your skinand what you're exposing
yourself to when it comes to guthealth.
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So let's dig into today'stopic.' It's still probably new
information for a lot of youguys, but as a gut health
special specialist, this istypically what I think of First,
when I start thinking about thegut skin access is how the gut
affects our skin.
So last week, when I said lastweek was an inside out episode,
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it was how the skin affects thegut.
But today we're really talkingabout how a lot of skin issues
may actually start in the gut,how that is and what you can do
about it.
So let's dig in.
So a lot of you guys may haveactually experienced skin issues
or maybe had a baby with eczemaor something like that.
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You know, think about what someof the common ones are like
eczema from dairy dermatitisherpetiformis from celiac
disease, you know, before it'sdiagnosed, hopefully because
they get that from glutenexposure or they get little like
pustules on the skin.
You know, so.
skin and gut.
I think it's pretty commonlyknown that they can be related.
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So you know, if you have your,your, your gut health, if you're
experiencing food sensitivitiesor allergies, inflammation in
your gut any sort of imbalancein your microbiome that all
affects what goes on in the restof your body, including your
skin function.
So it's not just.
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You know, your gut and skin areconnected.
We know there's a gut brainconnection.
We know your hormones areinvolved in gut health.
So this is just one snapshot.
But keep in mind, we are systemsof systems.
I say this all the time.
Our bodies are all connected.
They're all reliant on otherparts of each other and it's not
one specialized organ systemworking in isolation.
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And I'm just going to take thisopportunity to say, I think
that's one way that conventionalmedicine just gets it wrong.
It's just outdated.
You guys, whenever we were firstlearning about the human body,
yeah, it makes sense to studyorgan systems in isolation.
But now science has shown usthat so many things are
connected that it's really doingpeople a disservice by just
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looking at one, you know, partof an organ system by itself.
We really need to look at thebody as a whole.
And so that's really what I doin integrative and functional
nutrition is looking at how allof these different things are
connected.
And that's why my clients get.
Such awesome results.
By the way, I think it's goingto be next week's episode.
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You're going to get to hear fromone of my clients who has gotten
those results and how her lifehas been transformed by working
on her gut health.
So definitely keep an eye outfor that.
It's going to be an awesomeepisode.
So let's talk back about.
Let's get back on track here.
So your skin is a barrier to theoutside world, just like your
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gut.
If you've heard me say thisbefore, your gut is actually
like a garden hose, right?
It's the inside of your gut isactually the outside world.
If you think about it with mefor a minute.
You know you have the top ofyour gut, which is like your
mouth.
It's an open hole, and then youhave the anus at the end and
it's open and inside of it isall also open like a hose.
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And then your gut is like thebodyguard or the bouncer of the
club.
I always say that decides whatgets into your body and what
doesn't.
Your skin's the same way, right?
It has to protect your body andyour cells and organs and all of
that from the outside world.
And so if these barriers arebroken down or inflamed or not
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functioning properly, things cango really wrong really, really
fast.
We know, you know, looking atour, our gut, our immune system
is highly concentrated in ourgut.
And that is Kind of a secondarydefense.
So it has a physical barrierfunction and then a secondary
barrier function really in theimmune system.
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So if something does get throughthe gut that shouldn't be there,
that immune system gets flaggedand those fighter cells go like
attack, right, and try and getrid of whatever that foreign
thing is that's in there.
Our skin is, you know, similar,you know, similarly function
where we have some immunefunction in our skin as well.
So we're gonna talk about howdifferent stressors, what are
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the different stressors that canimpact your gut and how?
So we know that it's affectingyour gut barrier function.
What that has to do with theskin.
How that skin gets inflamed andall of that next.
So you guys know I like to geekout on science with you a little
bit and talk through, but Ithink it's so important for you
to have a good understanding ofthe mechanisms and the why
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behind this, because it's goingto motivate you to act whenever
you have understanding versus mejust saying, Oh, take my word
for it.
Right.
Okay.
So.
Any kind of a stressor in yourgut can negatively impact your
gut physical gut barrier becauseit can turn on your immune
system.
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It can erode your mucosal layerthat keeps your gut lining nice
and safe.
So some of those stressors areDisbiosis is one of them, and it
seems simple, like sometimespeople will come to me and we'll
do a gut test on them, and theywon't have, you know, any major
pathogen come back.
They'll have some inflammation,and they'll have some dysbiosis,
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and they're like, but there'snot like a bad guy to go fight,
and it's like, okay, no, butyou're And your microbiome is in
balance.
And that means that there's toomany of this kind and not enough
of this kind.
And that is just as stressful toyour gut as something like
having a parasite or a bacterialinfection.
It's still a stress around thebody.
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Some of the other stressors inyour gut can be food that's not
well broken down.
So if you're not chewing yourfood well, that's like my top
one, number one piece of freeadvice for people is chew your
food.
You're not chewing your foodwell.
And then if your digestiveenzyme function is low those,
you know, undigested, poorlydigested food bits can be
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stressful for your gut lining.
Psych physiological,psychological, emotional, mental
stressors.
So chronic stress, big emotionaltrauma, anything like that can
function as stressed.
We talked last week howenvironmental toxins can
function as stress.
And then you do have things thatare like infections, parasites,
food, poisoning, stuff likethat, that are definitely,
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definitely stressful anddamaging to the gut lining.
So, like I said, whenever,you're exposed to these
stressors.
Your gut immune system does itsjob.
You have a local immune systemin your gut that's wanting to
recognize that as bad as harmfuland get rid of it, right?
And, and flare up.
So that's where if someone, likeI said a minute ago, has a lot
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of inflammation in their guts,that immune system is turned on
in their gut because of thepresence of one of these
stressors are oftentimes severalstressors, right?
And that local immune system canthen hand it over, like, if
they're like, this is out ofcontrol, we are losing this
battle our gates are beingflooded here with stressors and
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we're not winning then yourwhole, you know, immune system,
you know, more on the outside ofyour gut can get turned on,
circulating throughout yourentire body, and you can start
to see some things like skinconditions happen from there.
So, you know, That's kind of theprocess of how that happens and
what that looks like.
There's some really great imagesonline.
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If you wanna just go, you know,Google like tight junctions gut
barrier function in like aGoogle image search.
You can see all of this, likewhat I'm talking about here.
I'll actually link one in theshow notes for you guys.
I think that that would bereally, really helpful for you
to just.
C and it's going to show youkind of that whole process.
So bear with it.
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There are keys and there's like,it's like a flow chart.
So just look through it.
Don't get overwhelmed when youfirst open it up and see a bunch
of letters that stand fordifferent things, like really
dig in and sit down and take alook.
And you'll have a lot moreunderstanding of it.
That's something I actually walkthrough in my gut rehab resource
library and my signature programwith.
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So that's one of the videos thatis in there is me really going
through how that works.
So that people can really have agood understanding of how their
body is designed to function isyour body.
You should know how to handleit.
Right?
So, so what do you do with this?
information.
So first of all, just know, payattention to your body.
You know, like, is, do I have arash?
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Do I have bumps on the back ofmy arms?
Do I have some eczema that I'mjust dismissing?
Like that's, those are allreally good signs.
Another one is acne.
You know, am I struggling withacne?
Those are all really good signsthat, Hey, maybe your gut is not
very happy with you and it coulduse some attention.
If that's the case.
I would really recommend doingsome sort of a stool test, a
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functional stool test, so youcan really get an idea of what's
going on.
Whenever you do this, they'renot all created equal.
There's some out there that areonly looking at your microbiome.
They don't tell you anythingabout your inflammation levels
or digestive bubbles or checkingfor pathogens.
There's some out there that justhave a few markers.
There's some out there that havea whole lot.
So, you know, make sure you'rechoosing the right test.
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And then make sure that you'reworking with someone who is
really, really skilled atreading these tests, at
interpreting them and being ableto help you put the story
together.
So you have a betterunderstanding of what you're
going after versus, you know,trying to go after a million
different things.
Whenever you're looking at thesetests, a lot of the time, the
different results all tiedtogether into one big story that
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is the story of your gut health.
So you need to work with someonewho can really help you piece
all of that together.
Now an elimination diet orsomething like that can
definitely be done.
My middle one, my middle littlechild she has some really bad
eczema on her eyelids.
If you're watching this onYouTube, you can see me.
Pointing to where they are buton her eyelids and bless her
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heart, they'll bleed, you know,and it's itchy and it hurts.
It just looks really painful.
And I was like, well, let's justtry cutting dairy for a couple
of weeks and see what happens.
And they cleared right up.
And so that, that little, littlegirl can't handle dairy
products.
Her eczema gets all inflamed.
We took about a six month breakfrom milk and Honestly, it was
like, let's just reintroduce itand see what happens.
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And it flared back up.
So we had to.
cut it again.
And you know, currently notdoing any milk or dairy for her
and they've, they've healedagain.
So in instances like that, youcan try a simple elimination
diet and see if it resolves, butif it doesn't, or it's a lot of
different things going on orreally severe something like a
test might be a good idea.
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So you can kind of see what youneed to go after in your gut.
And then I would follow that upto say just doing a gut health
checkup like every two years orso, even if you don't have any
symptoms, even if you're notstruggling with gut, gut gut or
skin issues is a good idea justto make sure everything is good.
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You know, gut health changesevery day, multiple times a day,
every time you eat.
So we're definitely looking, youknow, at a snapshot in time.
And so we have to keep that inmind whenever we're looking at
these results, but knowing that.
We're looking for patterns andtrends.
But because things changequickly, things change quickly.
And so, you know, you may havesome stuff developing and you,
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you don't even realize it earlyuntil later on, whenever you
start to finally developsymptoms.
Because like I was sayingearlier, our bodies are really
good at trying to work up a goodfight, right?
And they have a lot of processesin place to try to keep things
under control.
And so a lot of the time it canbe a while before you ever even
have symptoms of something goingon.
So just doing a checkup on yourgut health every couple years is
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a really great idea because weknow it's so important for
quality of life chronic illness,all of that.
So that's a really goodrecommendation.
Another thing to consider ismaybe you have some symptoms and
you're just dismissing them.
You're like yeah, that rash.
It's fine.
It's just a weird little thingabout me or my joints are a
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little achy, but it's just kindof how I am.
I'm getting older.
Stuff like that.
You know, we just really don'tthink much of it because those
symptoms aren't necessarilyimpeding your quality of life
yet.
But you know, I would justencourage you to be proactive
because it's so much easier toget on top of things early on
than waiting for them to becomereally disruptive.
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It's just a lot more difficultat that point to go in and clean
things up.
So stuff like that.
And then also keep in mind.
normal may not be normal.
So what you consider to benormal because it's how it's
always been may not actually beoptimal.
With gut health, people don'ttalk about it a lot.
It's not exactly a dinner tableconversation.
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So you may not even know thatwhat you're experiencing.
really is a sign that somethingcould be going on.
So if that's the case, andyou're curious, you're like,
Hey, like, you know, if I'mnormal reach out to me on
Instagram and let me know.
And I would love to talk withyou about that.
See if I can give you some tips,anything like that.
If you're interested in doingjust a gut health checkup, let
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me know, because I have a reallygreat option for that.
That'll get you a littlesupport.
We'll do a gut test.
I'll give you a personalizedplan of action that you can go
in and implement.
And of course, if you are.
Really struggling with a hotmess gut, as I call it, and
you're in a place where you'reneeding some support and some
help and accountability and aplan.
Reach out and let's just talkabout that because you don't
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have to keep feeling like that.
I help people every single day,feel better and improve their
health and well being andtransform their lives.
So you don't have to say suck.
So that is all for this week.
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So, so thankful for you guys.
And we'll talk soon.