For our 4th episode, Okapi VP Marketing Chedva Kleinhandler chats with Cherre CEO L.D. Salmanson. We covered a lot of ground in this short episode, so don't blink or you'll miss some fascinating points, from the inception of Cherre, to startups respecting needing to respect real estate, the innovation fatigue that some real estate execs are experiencing, and the thought provoking question - maybe COVID isn't to blame for what's happening with retail and offices?    Follow our blog for the full show notes: https://www.okapi.ai/blog/