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Kertia (00:00):
Hello everyone.
It's me again, Kertia Johnson,host of the other side of your
podcast.
For my new listeners, thank youso much for tuning in.
I see you, I hear you, and Iappreciate your presence and
your support so very much.
So today we are sharing thisincredible story about a
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near-death experience.
Not my own, but I had thepleasure of sitting back and
taking this all in as my guest,Dennis Bullock, so kindly gave
us a preview of what it was liketo exit his body.
As a quick disclaimer, I'd saythat it's important to be aware
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that no two NDEs are the same.
Now, Dennis is a multifacetedtalent who has spent decades as
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a singer and musician who hashad extraordinary experiences
working with various artistsacross the world.
He's done marvelous work withartists like Prince, James
Brown, Joe Sample, Quincy Jones,Chaka Khan, Teddy Pendergrass,
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and so many more that I cannotlist here.
And in addition to the workhe's doing in the music
industry, he is currentlyproviding energy reading and
healing for others, which isjust an expansion of his innate
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abilities, creatingtransformative experiences for
others through both his musicand now his healing abilities.
During this conversation, heshared many of the insights with
us that he received while onthe other side, some of which
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you might or might notunderstand or necessarily agree
with.
So take what resonates with youand leave what doesn't.
Alright, let's get into it.
Dennis (02:45):
Yes, yeah, Zurich.
Kertia (02:47):
That's so cool.
How is it there?
Dennis (02:53):
I mean it has mid-city
and mountains.
Um you have a cross between thecity and uh and country.
Um I'm living in the Vinegan,which is more 20 minutes outside
of the city.
Where they have uh vineyards,you know, to grow wine and stuff
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like that.
Kertia (03:14):
That's really nice.
It sounds good.
Dennis (03:18):
Yeah, I I like the
nature.
Yeah, yeah.
Kertia (03:21):
Me too.
I'm a nature lover.
Dennis (03:23):
Oh, good, good.
Because nature is I mean, I gotthat from some of my downloads
about nature being it's a healerand it's also raising your
vibration when you're aroundnature, a tree or grass or a
lake or even ocean, that allraises your vibration.
Kertia (03:45):
That's so true.
Yeah, and speaking of yourdownloads, Jeez like you speak
about this spiritual journeythat you've been on.
And I'd love for you, yeah, tojust get right into it.
Like, you know, you've been onthe creative path for a very
long time, being a musician andsinger.
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You have now like started thisspiritual journey, which just is
just an addition to all theamazing things that you already
do.
So I'd love to know kind oflike what your life looked like
before now, and then how, andthen you can just get into how
your spiritual journey began.
Dennis (04:26):
Okay, well, first, I
mean, there's two experiences
that I had, uh major spiritualexperiences, I would say.
Um, the first one was uh withmy mother, and um the second one
was my NDE when I died.
Um, the first one, well beforebefore that this situation
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happened with my mother, me andmy mother were very close.
Okay.
My mother, she was like the joyof my life.
Um my father was more military.
He was a military man, he was apolice officer, he was um a
prison guard, and um he he washis family was more career
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marine.
Okay.
And my father was more, I wouldsay more like dutiful.
He just went, you know, what doyou want on your birthday here?
What do you want for Christmashere?
And that was it.
Kertia (05:26):
Yeah.
Dennis (05:27):
Or my mother was more um
uh the joy, the emotion.
She was more like, um, hey,look outside, check out the
birds, and do you see the birds,listen to the birds in the
morning, and check.
She was more like that.
She was just the light of mylife.
And she um quit her job to tomarry my father, and and so she
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didn't really work, but shesaved enough money to buy me my
first saxophone because I'm uh asoul singer and a saxophone
player.
And she bought me my firstsaxophone, and um, yeah, like I
said, she was just the joy of mylife, but then she got sick,
and then she died, and when shedied, it was like somebody
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turned out the lights in my lifecompletely.
And um, I was living inMontreal, Canada at that time,
and what happened was uh whenshe died, I mean, I was so
devastated.
Um, about for about a week anda half, two weeks almost, I
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would go to the bar and have adrink, come back home to my
apartment, come in my room, sit,turn out the light, sit on the
side of my bed, and cry myselfto sleep.
That was my routine for about aweek and a half.
Kertia (06:51):
Yeah.
Dennis (06:51):
Until one day I was
going to do my routine.
I was coming back from the bar,and I was coming in my room, I
turned out the light, I sat onthe side of my bed, and I went
to untie my sneakers.
And when I looked down to untiemy sneakers, I saw that there
was light and on the floor, andI was like, that's that's crazy.
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I I know I just turned out thelight, can't be light.
And here's the crazy part whenI looked up, it was as if the
sun that you see in the sky wasin my room.
Kertia (07:31):
Wow.
Dennis (07:32):
And when I looked up, I
was like that, and this wave the
only way I do describe it islike a wave of love covered me.
It's like if you're in theocean and and there's a wave
that's coming and it's too tallfor your body and covers your
whole body.
Well, imagine that to be likelove, and that's how it felt.
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It just squashed my whole bodylike that.
And then out and this light,later on, I discovered that the
light was God.
And out of this light camethese two stars.
Like one was a bigger star andone was a smaller star, and they
did just floated out towardsme.
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And I saw that the smalleststar was my mother.
And my mother, I mean, itfloated out to me, and I first
thing I said was, it's like thatover there, mom.
That's the first thing I saidbecause the feeling of love was
like overwhelming.
It was like the only way I candescribe it.
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Imagine you win the lottery fora billion dollars, you're in
Hawaii, and everybody around youloves you, times a hundred or a
thousand.
That's how it felt.
So she began, yeah, she beganto talk to me like I'm talking
to you now, except I could feelthe conversation being shot into
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my body.
I could feel our conversationas well as hear it.
I could feel it in my my bodycould feel it, and it was being
shot into me.
And she said, I'm gonna tellyou a week in advance the
future, so you know that thiswas not an illusion or a fake or
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nothing like that.
Kertia (09:16):
Yeah.
Dennis (09:17):
And um she said that
you're gonna get a job because
my band hadn't worked in aboutmaybe two or three weeks.
We were on a like a real dryspell, so we hadn't worked in a
while.
She said, You're gonna get ajob.
And she said that it's gonna bea bouncer guy there.
And this bouncer is gonna be ahomosexual and a psychopath.
Kertia (09:43):
Yeah.
Dennis (09:44):
And she said, Um,
whatever you do, don't get into
an argument or fight with him.
And um, and she said, becausethis then she started to talk
like Captain Kirk or Star TrekEnterprise.
She said, There's gonna be twotimelines.
She said, one timeline, you'regonna kill him if you get into a
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fight or an argument.
And the other timeline, he'sgonna kill you.
Now he says, she said, if youif you kill him, you're gonna go
to jail for the rest of yourlife.
And one of these two timelinesis gonna happen if you get into
an argument with him.
Now I was so happy to see mymother.
I said, Mom, I do whatever youtell me to do, whatever you say
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I'm doing.
My mother said that to mebecause she knew me.
It wasn't that I I'm notagainst people who are gay or
lesbian or homosexual.
But if somebody knows that I'mnot and they come after me, I'm
gonna defend myself.
That's just like that.
And my mother knew that.
She knew I was a person thatI'm not looking for trouble, but
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I could handle trouble if itcame my way.
So she she knew that about me.
So that's why she told me,don't get into an argument with
this person.
And she said, Um, or one ofthese two timelines are gonna
happen.
But I was just so happy to seeher.
I just, like I said, I said,Mom, whatever you tell me to do,
I'm doing it.
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I do exactly whatever you tellme to do.
And then she said anotherthing, she said, um, the
girlfriend that I was seeing atthe time, she said, she has
three kids that you don't knowabout.
And she says she's gonna try tohave a fourth one with you.
She said she's gonna try totrap you, maybe tell you she's
on pill or whatever.
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She's gonna try to trap you.
She said, Be careful aboutthat.
And and then she took a pause.
And when she took a pause, Isaid, But mom, I said, Who is
this other light next to you?
Because it was like a likeseven-foot-tall light next to
her, standing next to her.
Yeah, and then when I asked herabout this light, this light
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spoke to me, and it said, I'm anescort.
I'm escorting your mother tothe earth plane.
And I said, an escort?
Okay, and the exact words itsaid was, This is an
interruption in your life.
Oh, and I said, Interruption.
I said, Okay, well, I got somequestions because in my room
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right now it's like Star Wars.
I mean, the lights everywhere,the sun is here.
I mean, I got some questionslike why am I here?
Um who's gonna be my my wife?
Am I gonna have how many kidsare gonna have?
And this and this angel, thisangel said very calmly, it said,
I'm gonna tell you the answerto all your questions.
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But you won't be allowed toremember.
Only what your mother saysyou'll be allowed to remember.
So it told me the answers toeverything, but I could not
remember.
I only could remember what mymother told me.
And after that, my mother said,I love you and I'll always be
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around you, but you won't beaware of me as much as you are
tonight, but I'll always bearound you.
And she said, I love you, andthen she her and this big light,
this angel, drifted back intothe sun.
Like uh if you put an uh icecube and a glass and it begins
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to melt, that's how it was.
They they went back into thesun, and the sun started to
leave, and slowly my room becamedarker and darker and darker
until when it was dark, tearsjust burst out of my eyes.
Yeah, and and I was just like,nobody's ever gonna believe me.
Nobody's ever gonna believe thiseven happened.
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Nobody's gonna believe me.
Nobody.
This is too incredible.
I said, nobody's gonna believeme.
But I have the proof.
Now, the next day I got a callfrom the band, and the band
said, Hey, we got a gig.
Now, I didn't dare tell my bandwhat had happened the night
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before, because I thoughtthey're just gonna say, oh man,
he's a great singer, greatsaxophone player, but man, when
his mom died, he lost it.
He lost it.
So I didn't tell her nothing.
I just said, Oh, okay.
We got a gig.
That's great.
That's great.
And I hung up the phone, andthen we went to this sound
check, what we call a soundcheck.
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For people who don't know whata sound check is, is when the
band tests all the soundequipment to make sure there's
no problems before the show,about maybe two or three hours
before the show.
So we did the sound check.
So I went to this new club, andthere were these two bouncers
there, but they didn't saynothing or bother me.
And I went into the club, wedid our sound check, everything
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sounded great, we left, and nowwe're coming at night to the
gig.
And we get to the gig and we doour first set, and it sounds
great, everybody's happy,everything went really well, and
I'm on the break, and I'mtalking to my band.
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This is me and the band, andwe're talking, and this guy,
this bouncer guy, passes me andgrabs my butt while I'm talking.
And and I'm talking, I got,hey, like that.
And said, guys, did you seethis?
This guy just grabbed my butt.
And he went, grabbed my butt,and he went into the corner and
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just watched me.
And I said, Man, did you seethat, guys?
This guy just grabbed my butt.
And they said, No, we just sawhim pass you because I was in
the way for them to see thegrab.
Kertia (15:47):
Yeah.
Dennis (15:47):
So I said, I gotta tell
this guy something.
I was angry.
I was really mad.
And I was going over there veryangry, and then I said, Oh,
wait, oh, remember what momsaid.
Don't lose it, man.
Stay calm.
Don't lose it.
Don't lose it.
Remember what mom said.
So I went over there and I toldhim, I said, Look, man, I'm not
like that.
Please don't touch me.
And he said, I didn't touch you,man.
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You had too much beers.
I said, No, you did touch me,but please don't, I'm not like
that.
And then he said, Well, why didyou tell your friends?
I said, I told my friendsbecause you touched me.
That's why I told my friends.
And I said, Please don't touchme, I'm not like that.
And then I walked away becausethe longer I stayed there, the
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more the conversation was goingto that place where my mother
had talked about.
Not to get into an argumentwith this person.
So I I said that.
Um I said, I'm not like that,man.
Don't touch me, please,anymore.
And I walked away.
And I did, we did our secondshow, that went great, but I
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didn't stick around at the clubafter that.
I I didn't feel comfortablethere.
So I left.
I I passed him and left.
I went out to the club andnothing happened.
The next day, I got a call fromthe band.
And they said, Hey man, did youhear what happened?
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I said, No, I mean, I left theclub.
We did the second set, I leftthe club.
What happened?
He said, Remember that bounceryou said that had grabbed you?
I said, Yeah.
He said he got into an argumentwith the club owner and crushed
both of the rib cages of theclub owner.
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The club owner is dead.
And this guy is in jail rightnow as we speak for
manslaughter.
Kertia (17:41):
Wow.
Dennis (17:42):
And that was the first
experience.
When he told me that, I said,Oh my goodness.
I said, I knew something waswas weird about this guy, but I
still didn't tell him what hadhappened before.
I just said, oh man, that'scrazy.
Because club owner was a niceperson.
He was a nice guy.
But because my dead mother toldme this information, he was the
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one that got into the argumentwith him, not me.
But I would have if my motherhadn't warned me.
So I hung up the phone and Isaid, Oh my goodness, everything
my mom said is coming true.
Everything.
And then I said, But wait, ifthis is coming true, my
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girlfriend.
Oh my goodness.
So I gotta, I I said, I gottacall her, I gotta call her.
This this can't be.
I gotta call her.
So I called her.
She said, hello, hello.
I said, hey, how you doing?
I said, tell me something.
Just tell me the truth.
Do you have three kids?
And the phone went silent.
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And then she said, Who toldyou?
And I said, No, no, this can'tbe.
I know you for a year and ahalf.
No way.
It's no way, no way.
I said, I'm gonna ask youagain.
Wait, maybe you didn't hear meright.
I'm gonna ask you again.
Do you have three kids?
And she said, Yes, I do.
But who told you?
And then I said, Well, I'mgonna tell you who told me.
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My dead mother told me.
And I said, I would haveaccepted your three kids if you
had been honest.
But you denied your own kids.
I said, I don't know what elseyou could be hiding.
So me and you are through.
We finish.
And then I hung up the phoneand that was that was it with
her.
And that was the firstexperience.
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First major spiritualexperience.
Kertia (19:42):
That's incredible.
Dennis (19:44):
Yeah, so uh, yeah, that
uh and and it was such an
amazing experience that I I Isaid I'm gonna try to go back to
normal life because I said thisis all too much for me.
You know, I'm just I'm just anartist.
I this is all too much for me.
I said, I'm gonna try to goback to normal life.
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So I I end up following thissinger.
You know, it's a singer thatthey made this group a remake of
called The Platters, but it'snot the original Platters.
That that's too old for me.
But it's uh like a remake ofthis group.
And there was a lead, there wasa lead singer, and he was like
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an amazing singer.
I mean awesome.
So he was like more like amentor towards me.
Like I was singing backgroundvocal uh for him, and he was
teaching me things about vocals.
And he was successful, he hadcontracts in Germany, here,
America.
He was doing really great.
Until one day he offered medrugs, and I started to do drugs
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with him, which I'm not soproud of.
But I started to do drugs withhim because I thought this was
the way.
Yeah, look at him, he'ssuccessful.
I mean, this must be the way.
So I started to do drugs withhim.
And until one day, one weekend,he just dropped dead.
And that was my wake-up call.
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I went cold turkey.
I said, I said, if you continuelike him, you're gonna drop
dead.
So I stopped cold turkey.
I didn't go to no rehab, nonothing.
I just stopped.
And I said, and I said, I'mgonna replace it with marijuana.
I said, uh maybe I smoke ajoint once a month, two months,
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two times a month, that's gonnabe it.
That's gonna be it.
So, so that's what I did.
And um well, this one day withmy new girlfriend, uh, we ran
out of marijuana.
So I hate to say it, but it'strue.
But most musicians, no matterwhat country, no matter what
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city, they all know how to getsome marijuana.
That's just that's just a fact.
So I so we ran out, so I justpicked up the phone and called
one of my musician friends and Isaid, Hey, you got any uh
marijuana?
And he said, Yeah, sure.
And I and uh he said, I'll bakeit in a cake for you and bring
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it over.
I said, Cool, because I neverhad it in a cake.
I always smoked it, but I neverhad it in a cake.
So he baked it in a it was achocolate cake, and he brought
it over to my apartment with meand my girlfriend, and then he
left.
He didn't stay, he just broughtit to me and he left.
Now, what I didn't realize tillway after is that he must have
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poured tons and tons and tonsand tons of marijuana in this
cake.
So I cut a small piece for meand a small piece for her.
We ate the cake and waited 10minutes, nothing happened.
I said, You feel anything?
She said, No.
I said, I don't feel nothingeither.
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I said, Maybe we have to eatmore cake.
So I cut I cut half the cakefor me and the other half for
her.
And we ate it.
I ate half, she ate halfbecause we wanted to get high.
So I waited another 10 minutes.
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I said, You feel anything?
She says, No, I don't feelnothing.
I said, Me neither.
I said, it must be a bad batch.
Then another 10 minutes wentby, and then we started to feel
something.
But it wasn't necessarily likewe were getting high, it was
more like our bodies began toshut down.
Kertia (23:45):
Oh no.
Dennis (23:46):
And like I would be
talking to her, and then I would
forget to breathe.
Forget to breathe.
Wow.
And then it was becoming hardfor me to move, and she said,
You better call 911 while westill can.
And I said, Yeah, because thisis not good.
I can't barely move.
And I was pushing myself to getto the phone.
And I I'd called 911 and theysaid, Well, how can we help you?
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And this was embarrassing partbecause I had to say, Well, we
we took, I think we took toomuch marijuana in a cake, and I
think we're dying.
Could you please come save us?
Could you please come help us?
And they said, Okay, we'll beright over.
But what I didn't know is thatwhenever you call 911 for
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narcotic, they also call thepolice.
So the police came first.
And when they came to theapartment first, they uh there
was nothing for them to chargeus with because we had eaten all
the evidence.
There was no marijuana, therewas nothing.
So they they left.
They left, and so then theambulance came.
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Now, this happened at fouro'clock in the morning, by the
way.
Kertia (24:58):
Yeah.
Dennis (24:59):
So I'm on the third
floor, and the ambulance finally
arrived.
I was really happy that theambulance came because I was
like, I couldn't move at thatpoint.
I was trying to get keep myheart to beat.
And um, it was quite seriouswhen they arrived.
And I was so happy that theyarrived, and we went down in
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separate stretchers.
Now I had a stairwell caseoutside the apartment for them
to take us out, but it it itrolled in a stairwell, but it
was right in front of thewindows of the second floor and
the first floor apartments.
So the lights were flashing,the sirens were and people were
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looking out.
My neighbors were looking outtheir window because I was right
in front of their window, andthey're and they're like, what
happened to them?
And it it looked like a sceneout of, I don't know, David
Bowie, Mick Jagger overdose.
It just looked wild.
It just looked wild.
So they put us both in theambulance in separate
stretchers, and we got to thehospital.
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And when we went to thehospital, um, they took her in
another one room and they put mein another room.
But as I was passing thereception at the hospital, I saw
my dead mother again.
This time she was lookingthrough papers at the reception,
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looking for where they weregonna put me or something like
that.
She had this shirt on now.
My mother was a member of abouta women's club for about 12
women.
They would go play bingo, theywould go on trips, stuff like
that.
It's like a women's club.
And she had that shirt that Irecognized right away.
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And as they were rolling mepast the reception, I said,
that's strange.
There's mom.
Now, what I didn't realize wasthat I was so close to death at
that time.
That's why I could even seeher, just like I could see you
right now.
Kertia (27:02):
Yeah.
Dennis (27:03):
And so they rolled me
into a room and rolled my
girlfriend into another room,and they gave me this drink to
drink.
I thought it was tar, but Ilater found out that it was like
charcoal.
Kertia (27:16):
Yeah.
Dennis (27:18):
So they left me in the
hospital room by myself, and
they went to her because she washaving some kind of
complications, which I don'tknow.
And so I sat on my hospital bedand I said, Thank God, I think
I'm gonna live.
I'm gonna live, I'm gonna live.
Kertia (27:37):
Yeah.
Dennis (27:38):
Because I couldn't move
before, my heart was barely
beating.
And so I drank this drink asfast as I could.
It was horrible, tasteshorrible.
Ugh.
And I and I drank it down.
And then I laid on the side onthe on the bed, laid back on the
bed, and I said, I think I'mgonna, I'm gonna be okay.
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I'm gonna I'm gonna live.
And then I started to hear myheart in my ear.
Like somebody took out my heartand put it right at my ear.
And it started to beat likeboop, boom, boom, boom, boom,
boom, boom.
And that was it.
And when it did the last boom,I popped out of my body like I
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would pop out of this chair,like that.
I just popped out of my body.
And I said, I'm out.
And I looked at my hand, I waslooking at my hand just like
that.
And my hand had this gray,light bluish tint around it.
Like, I don't know if you eversaw like uh emergency
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broadcasting system, like whenthe TV, when if you watch TV too
late, it used to come on.
I don't think it does anymore,because now they have so many
channels.
But before they only had threeor four channels, and when you
watch that, it um this thisemergency broadcasting system
would come on, the static wouldcome over the TV.
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And my hand, it kind of lookedsimilar to that, except, except,
I mean, because if you look inthe static, there's colors in
the static.
Yeah, but my hand was gray witha light blue tint all around
it.
Kertia (29:23):
Wow.
Dennis (29:24):
And I was looking at it
like this, and I mean, I was
standing there, I could see mybody was in the bed, and I was
standing next to my body.
And then, and that didn'tdisturb me.
And then I heard this drop ofwater.
There was a sink in my hospitalroom, and this drop of water
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was going poop, poop, boop,boop, boop.
And for some odd reason, mycuriosity on the other side is
like was like at a thousand.
And to a soul, a drop of waterwas.
Like the most fascinating thingyou could ever see.
And I said, a drop of water.
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Wow.
Wow.
And the minute I thought aboutthe water, my vision went
straight to the sink, to thewater, and back to where I was
standing.
Kertia (30:18):
Wow.
Dennis (30:20):
And then after that, as
if I was remembering, it's like
if I if I give you a bike in 20years from now and you don't
ride a bike in 20 years, you'restill gonna know how to ride a
bike.
Kertia (30:32):
True.
Dennis (30:33):
Well, it was like that.
I I put my wave my hand acrossthe the air, like just like I'm
doing now.
And the water froze in mid-air.
I had stopped time.
Kertia (30:47):
Wow.
Dennis (30:48):
And and to a soul, that
was not very much.
It was not a big thing.
Kertia (30:54):
Not much, and not a big
deal.
Dennis (30:56):
No, it was not a big
deal.
And then I said, I'd like tosee that water from every angle.
Kertia (31:05):
Yeah.
Dennis (31:06):
And then I just opened
my hand just like I'm doing now.
Five of me appeared.
Of me.
One on the right, one on theleft, one underneath, one
watching them, one watchingthem, and me watching all five.
Kertia (31:22):
Wow.
Dennis (31:24):
And I'm just looking at
them and I'm like, what?
This is wild.
And then I I closed my hand.
When I would close my hand,they all five would suck back
into me like this right backinto one.
And I did, and I opened my handagain.
Then they would all appear atthe sink.
(31:44):
And I kept doing that.
I just said, and I kept doingit, and it started to be like
Bugs Bunny.
I just started to have fun andI kept doing it.
Boom, boom, really fast.
Like a kid.
And then and then I said, andthen the last time I said, I
wonder if I open my hand and Iopen it and I do a little shake.
(32:07):
Will all five of them shake?
And I did it like this.
I opened my hand and I did alittle shake like that, and they
all appeared and they did alittle shake and I burst out
laughing.
Kertia (32:20):
Oh my God.
Dennis (32:21):
I burst out laughing.
And it sounded like I waslaughing in the Grand Canyon,
just went ha ha ha ha ha ha haha ha ha ha.
And and after the laugh, Istarted to feel that somebody
was watching me.
And then I heard a voice.
And this voice said in a verygentle way, if you don't go back
(32:47):
now, you might have to stay.
And it wasn't a command, itwasn't an order.
It was just like a choice.
And I knew that that this wasthe voice of God.
And it was offering me a choicebecause my heart couldn't stay
stopped that long.
I think it'd been maybe 20minutes.
Kertia (33:09):
Right.
Dennis (33:11):
So at that moment, I it
was a hard choice because I was
having fun.
And the longer I stayed, themore powers I was having.
Kertia (33:22):
Yeah.
Dennis (33:23):
Like incredible.
And the other thing is themoment I stepped out of my body,
information was coming to melike crazy.
Like an alcohol seltzer.
If you put an alcohol seltzerin water, it's going to
dissolve.
Well, imagine the opposite.
(33:44):
Uh, you're getting information,but it's expanding, expanding,
and expanding, expanding, andexpanding.
Kertia (33:50):
Yeah.
Dennis (33:51):
And that was happening.
You might want to call itdownloads, whatever you want to
call it, but that's what it was.
And then so I turned myself inthe direction of the bot of the
body on the bed.
And here's another thing.
I didn't want to look at myface.
Never.
Because I was afraid that myface was going to be like some
(34:14):
kind of dead expression on it.
Yeah.
So I just looked at my leg.
I knew I was standing, and theleg was there, so I knew I was
out.
Kertia (34:23):
Yeah.
Dennis (34:23):
So I pointed myself in
the direction of my body, and I
just wheeled myself.
I like jumped right onto thebody, and it just the soul went
in and I made like a double beaton my heart.
Boom, boom, boom, boom.
And then it started to beat.
A normal.
And basically that was it.
But but uh when I came back,this time I was allowed to
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remember all the informationthat came.
Not like with my mother'ssituation.
Kertia (34:56):
Wow.
Dennis (34:57):
And a lot of these
downloads were opposite of what
I believed.
Kertia (35:04):
I mean, let's get into
it.
Dennis (35:07):
I mean, for example, I
mean, I got downloads about
heaven and hell.
First thing, hell is is createdby people, is not created by
God.
Um, God is only, only, only,only, only, only love.
Unconditional, no judgment ofany kind.
(35:30):
Um, we are part of God, and wealso are gods with a big G.
We can have multiple lifetimesat the same time.
The life you're having rightnow is like a part of your
soul's little fingernail, apiece of your soul's little
(35:50):
fingernail.
That's how much power you'reusing, which is very little.
Okay.
Um, the reason why people whodie and go to hell and they
experience hell is becauseeither they have fear of that or
they believed it.
Because as a God, whatever youbelieve, you're creating on the
(36:11):
other side.
So, so if you believe in hell,you're gonna create that hell,
and that's some of the firstthings you're gonna experience.
So you go into this hell, andand in the Christian religion,
uh, you go to hell, you're notsupposed to never get out,
right?
So, why why are hundredsgetting out of hell and coming
(36:34):
back to tell about it?
It's because they're the oneswho are creating the hell.
Okay?
If I'm gonna tell you this (36:40):
if
God was to create hell, nobody
would get out.
Okay, but God doesn't, Godisn't creating the hell.
Now, two things happen to thosepeople who go to hell.
Either one is that they realizeit's them who creating this
whole thing, this hell, and theyleave.
(37:02):
Or they cry out to God and say,Oh, God, please help me.
I'm in hell, I'm in hell.
And God says, Okay, I'm gonnatake you out of your own
creation.
Kertia (37:13):
Yeah.
Dennis (37:13):
And they take them out,
and the people think, oh, God
spared me, and blah, blah, and Ihave to be a good.
They don't even get that, thefact that first thing, God loves
you, and he just took you outof your own creation.
Kertia (37:29):
Yeah.
Dennis (37:30):
That's it.
That's it.
Kertia (37:32):
Yeah.
Dennis (37:33):
And it's the same for
heaven.
People who believe in heaven,that's probably one of the first
things they're gonnaexperience, but they it's
nothing gonna be happening.
They'll go to heaven andthey'll see maybe Jesus, Virgin
Mary, a few angels, but nothingelse will be happening.
And eventually they'll say,Everybody's nobody's nothing
(37:54):
happening here.
People just floating around,but nothing's happening.
Yeah, and they're gonna realizeit's them who created.
Because on the other side,every place is heaven because
it's all made from God.
Yeah, there's no special,there's no special place.
Okay, and also I got downloadsabout Jesus.
(38:18):
There were many Jesuses thatcame with the same uh ideas or
consciousness, and there is areal Christ consciousness on the
other side, it's just underunconditional love.
Um, and this does exist, butthere is no hierarchy on the
(38:41):
other side, which means thatChrist is not more closer to God
than you are, Virgin Mary isnot more closer to God than you
are.
Uh Gabriel or or or Michael,the angel, archangel is not more
closer to God than you are.
There is no hierarchy.
Kertia (38:59):
Yeah.
Dennis (39:00):
Okay.
Only true religion over on theother side is love.
Kertia (39:05):
Yeah.
Dennis (39:06):
Okay.
And um I mean, uh the otherdownloads was that there, oh,
yeah, there's no right or wrongon the other side.
Kertia (39:16):
Yeah.
Dennis (39:17):
Only perception.
Here's the other download.
This life is a game, it wascreated by other souls so we
could experience what we arenot, and to experience, period.
That's all.
It's not a school, it's not uhfor your soul to have evolution
(39:37):
or something.
Your soul is perfect on theother side, it needs none of
that.
Kertia (39:41):
Yeah.
Dennis (39:42):
Okay.
You came here to experience.
For example, if if you're blackand and you're on the other
side, and everything you see isblack, everything the room
you're in is black, you don'tnever know that you're black.
Kertia (39:58):
True.
Dennis (39:59):
Until until you see a
white room or green room or
purple room.
Then you say, I'm the blackroom.
Kertia (40:04):
Yeah.
Dennis (40:05):
Okay.
And it's the same for the otherside.
You experience love andunconditional love and power.
And when you come into thisgame, you experience the
opposite, which is like no lovealmost, no helplessness,
powerlessness.
Okay.
So when you're gonna go back,you're gonna appreciate all that
(40:29):
power and all that love likenever before.
Okay, but this is still a game.
I had people ask me many times,well, what about Hitler?
You know, what is God?
God's gonna welcome him withlove and open arms, and the
answer is yes.
But everybody has a lifereview, and in life review is
(40:54):
you're gonna experience thefeelings of the other people
that you affected, good or bad.
So a person like Hitler, whoaffected millions and caused
millions to suffer and tortureand die, he's gotta feel that.
As well as his own feelings,he's gotta feel what he calls
(41:19):
the others.
And that's not gonna be a goodfeeling, I can tell you that.
But it won't last forever, anda life review is not um to judge
you, it's just to review that'sit.
And the other thing is thedownloads about the earth is
(41:42):
that the earth is a soul, by theway, and um it agreed to play
this game where it's called 3D,and 3D is duality.
Uh good, bad.
That's why life always feelslike it's good, then it's bad,
then it's good, then it's bad,then it's good, then it's bad.
That's the duality.
(42:02):
Now, the earth agreed to playfor a few billion years, but now
she doesn't want to playanymore.
She doesn't want to play to 3D,so she's moving to 5D.
Now, 5D is fifth dimension.
So she's she made a call out tohave uh what we call star
(42:28):
seeds, and these star seeds areare it's like example, you if
you want to move to a newapartment, now you could do all
the work by yourself, but it'sgonna take you quite a while.
Kertia (42:44):
Yeah.
Dennis (42:45):
But if you call out to
your friends, what's gonna
happen?
You're gonna move faster.
Kertia (42:50):
Okay.
Dennis (42:51):
Exactly.
That's what she did.
And star seeds are people whoare born to the earth to help
the earth raise her vibrationfaster.
Now, starseeds are people thatare very sensitive, but they're
very positive.
Uh, they help people all thetime.
They just want to help, theyjust in their nature.
We all know somebody like that.
Kertia (43:11):
Yeah.
Dennis (43:12):
Uh, and but they can't
be around a lot of crowds.
They're very they're toosensitive for crowds.
Um, those are star seeds.
And they came for the purposeof helping the earth rise in
their vibration, whether they'reconscious of it or not.
Okay, whereas we might comejust to experience what we're
(43:35):
not or to experience.
Kertia (43:38):
Okay, so they have like
a special purpose.
Dennis (43:42):
Yes, purpose.
Well, the thing is, 50% of yourlife you already planned.
Kertia (43:51):
Yeah.
Dennis (43:51):
And the other 50% is
free will.
Kertia (43:55):
Can you break that down
for me?
Dennis (43:57):
Okay, for example,
you've planned who your parents
would be, you planned who yourwho your children are gonna be,
you planned who your dog andcat's gonna be, you plan who
your best friend's gonna be, youplan who your enemy's gonna be,
you plan who your the guy'sgonna break your heart, who's
who that's gonna be.
Kertia (44:12):
The Lord.
Dennis (44:13):
You you plan you plan
the love of your life, who's
that's gonna be.
Okay, these are all souls inyour soul family.
And usually a soul family canbe anywhere from 12 to 40 people
that incarnate into the game atthe same time you, and you make
an agreement, you know.
They they like an exchange.
You you like one wants to feel.
(44:34):
I want to feel how it feels tobe like a bad person, because
I'm over here, I'm always inlove and good.
I wonder how that might feel.
So they're gonna be the bad onethat breaks your heart, or the
or your enemy in school, orwhatever.
And you all agree to that, andthat's that's the destiny, but
you still have free will.
(44:55):
So you still can say, I don'twant those parents, I leave.
I don't want that boyfriend, Ileave, I don't want that
husband, I leave, I don't wantthat best friend, I changed my
mind.
You still have free will, yeah.
Okay, and uh yeah, so andhere's the other thing about the
(45:16):
Bible, a lot of it is not true.
Sorry to say for all the peoplereligious, but uh it was
manipulated by the church and bythe government that was ruling
at the time 2,000 years ago.
Okay.
Um a lot of things Christ saidthat was true, but a lot of
(45:37):
things was manipulated thatChrist didn't even say.
Kertia (45:40):
Of course.
Of course.
Dennis (45:41):
Like, for example, um,
you can only come to God but
through me.
That's that's totally not true.
Because your soul is inside ofyou, that's the God.
You don't even have to reallygo to church because your soul
is here.
God is right here, it's not insome church.
Okay.
Um, but Jesus did try to tellpeople that, you know, these
(46:03):
works I do, but you'll dogreater than these.
See, that's him telling that'sthe true parts, but there's some
true parts in the Bible andsome not.
Because first thing, God is notgonna separate, God is not
gonna um make it make you putyour son as a sacrifice just to
test you.
No way.
God is love.
That's not that's not love.
Kertia (46:26):
True.
Dennis (46:27):
Okay.
Um, so and uh yeah, so this alot of this stuff is not true.
Um, like I said, I was um I wasraised a Christian um in my
household, not a seriousChristian, but holiday
Christian, whatever you want tocall it.
But yeah, all my beliefs wentout the window when I passed
(46:49):
away because I saw what wasreally the truth.
And the real the real truth wasthat uh only some of the Bible
was true, and the parts aboutfear, separation, revenge, hate,
not true.
And also about uh Christ, ifyou don't go by if you don't go
to Christ, you can't get intoGod, you can't reach God.
(47:13):
Yeah, this is not true.
Kertia (47:15):
Yeah, absolutely.
Dennis (47:17):
Yeah, absolutely.
And reincarnation is true, butit won't be true so much in the
future because the Earth is notplaying gonna play the game
anymore.
It's going to 5D.
You know, I'm gonna talk aboutthat.
That's what's happening in theworld today now.
Kertia (47:34):
Yeah, that's true.
Dennis (47:34):
We're we're in we're in
transition.
That means the frequency or thevibration of the planet has
totally changed and it's risingtowards 5D.
And 5D, what is 5D?
5D is fifth dimension, whichmeans that in this 5D, there'll
(47:55):
be no killing of animals,plants, or people.
We'll have 20% of our soulpower in the physical body.
We'll have telepathy, we'll beable to communicate with rocks,
plants, animals.
Um, we'll be able to creatematter with our mind.
So if we want a McDonald'sdouble cheeseburger, we can
(48:20):
create it with our mind intoreality without a cow ever being
killed.
And it has no chemicals.
Okay.
That's a good idea.
So, yeah, and technology willbe so advanced because there'll
be nothing being held back fromus as humanity.
Because a lot is being heldaway from us.
(48:40):
They know a lot more thanthey're sharing.
Um, and fifth in 5D, you'll beable to visit the other side and
come back.
So if you have your deadmother, your dead father, you'll
be in 5D in that dimension,you'll be able to go back over
there to the other side, sayhey, hello, and then come back.
(49:01):
Okay.
Um, this and it's not going tobe a thing where you go to sleep
one night and then all of asudden you wake up and millions
of people have disappeared.
It's going to be a gradualthing, like going from winter to
summer.
Okay.
It's gradually happening everynow.
And also when the vibrationrises, it's changing our DNA.
(49:25):
Literally, there's more suncoming to the earth.
Literally.
The science will back you up.
The Schuman resonance is offthe charts.
Normally it's at 7.83.
Right now it's at 100 andabove.
Okay.
7.83 is the exact samefrequency of the human brain.
(49:46):
And it's the exact samefrequency of the planet Earth.
Kertia (49:52):
Wow.
Dennis (49:53):
Okay.
So the thing is, um, whenpeople do bad things on a planet
that's rising in vibration,they're not going to have the
same outcome as they expected.
Okay.
It's just think of it like uhit's it's high vibrations and
low vibrations.
(50:14):
This is another download.
Low vibrations is fear, anger,depression, uh, regret, stress,
confusion, lies.
This is all low vibration.
Low vibration makes things workdifficult if they work at all,
and it's very bad for yourhealth.
What is high vibration?
(50:34):
High vibration is love, joy,smiles, laughing, nature,
animals, babies, creating of anykind.
Okay?
Joy, gratitude, forgiveness.
This is all high vibrations.
Now, what does high vibrationsdo?
(50:55):
High vibrations make thingswork easier.
High vibrations brings moremoney, more success.
High vibrations is very goodfor your health.
And even the doctor will tellyou if you laugh more, it's good
for your health.
Kertia (51:09):
Yeah.
Dennis (51:10):
Okay.
Now, it's not about uh beingperfect.
Now, the thing I tell myclients is that you want to be
like a three-year-old.
Now, imagine a three-year-oldlittle girl runs down the street
really fast and then she falls.
Bow! And then she screams.
(51:32):
She screams because she feelsthat low vibration emotion.
But a minute later, that samethree-year-old little girl is
gonna be laughing.
Kertia (51:42):
That's so true.
Dennis (51:44):
Why?
Because she felt that lowvibration emotion, but then she
let it go.
Where adults they hold on to itfor hours, weeks, days, years,
even decades.
Kertia (51:53):
Yeah.
Dennis (51:54):
So it's not about being
perfect.
Uh your emotions are yourthermometer to tell you if
you're on low vibrations or highvibrations.
So you can't say, well, I don'tknow what vibration I'm on.
All you got to do is askyourself, how do I feel?
If I feel good, I know I'm onhigh vibrations.
If I don't feel so good, then Iknow I'm on low vibrations.
And what I suggest to myclients, and I'm gonna tell you
(52:18):
about it and your public, isthat you make a list of 10
things that automatically makeyou happy.
The first one I will give you,which is nature.
If you live near a park, atree, a lake, an ocean, you sit
under the tree for one hour andyour vibration will rise
automatically.
You don't have to do nothing.
The other nine things arepersonal to you.
(52:39):
Could be your favorite movie,funny, a funny cartoon, could be
your favorite dessert, could bea friend that makes you laugh,
could be a boyfriend,girlfriend, could be uh a good
book.
Um, you know, it could becreating, uh, music, drawing,
writing.
All this is high vibration.
But whatever makes youautomatic happenatically happy,
(53:01):
you write it on this list of tenthings.
Because your emotions is yourthermometer to tell you if
you're on low vibrations or highvibrations.
And we being in the humancondition, we all can be subject
to wake up one morning and beafraid about wars or governments
or people or situations.
And like if I wake up and I'mafraid, all of a sudden that's
(53:23):
my emotions telling me, heyDennis, you're going on low
vibrations.
You're in a fear vibration.
What are you going to do aboutit?
And I go to my number two,which is Bugs Bunny, and I watch
Bugs Bunny for yeah, I watchBugs Bunny for about 15 minutes,
and then I'm laughing and I'mback on high vibrations.
And I repeat, it's not aboutbeing perfect.
(53:45):
It's just about knowing what todo if you find yourself on low
vibrations.
Now, if you have to feel lowvibration emotion, feel it, but
then let it go, like thatthree-year-old.
Feel it, but then let it go.
Because if you don't feel youremotions, what happens is later
on you explode.
(54:06):
Nobody knows why.
So you gotta feel your emotionsbecause a lot of spiritual
people try to tell you, oh,never feel bad feelings and
never feel low vibrations.
That's not correct.
Yeah, the point is that youdon't stay on those low
vibrations very long.
That's the point.
That's the problem because thelaw of attraction is real, it's
(54:27):
real on the other side, and it'salso real here, but it's more
delayed here.
So if you stay on lowvibrations for a long time, then
you're gonna attract what morelow vibrations.
Kertia (54:39):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
Dennis (54:45):
Yeah, so these are like
the downloads, and then I
discovered um uh after mynear-death experience, um I was
gonna try to go back to normallife because I just said my life
is just it's just yes, it'sjust it's just too much.
(55:06):
So I tried to go back to normallife, and I went, we my band,
we had a gig at this placecalled Montroulon in Canada.
And it was uh a club that wasopen like in the daytime, and
there was a snowstorm.
So nobody was in the club, andit was just me, us, the band,
(55:28):
and these two waitresses.
So I was bored, and we were allhaving a beer, and I was bored.
So I said to one of thewaitresses, hey, come on over
here, I'm gonna tell you yourfuture for fun.
It was supposed to be a joke.
So I took her left hand and Ididn't know her, and I said,
Your boyfriend is paraplegic.
I said, uh, he blames you forhis handicap, even though it's
(55:51):
not your fault.
Uh three months from now,you're gonna meet a guy, you're
gonna fall in love, and anotherthree months, you're gonna marry
this guy.
And I just threw her hand away.
I didn't even pay attention tothat.
She never said one word while Iwas saying that.
And I just finished my beer.
A year later, we played thatsame club, and this same
(56:13):
waitress was still workingthere.
She ran up to me and she said,Did you know that everything you
said came true was true?
I said, No way.
I said, no way, your boyfriendwas paraplegic.
She said, Yes.
I said, he blamed you for hishandicap, even though it wasn't
your fault.
She said, Yes.
(56:34):
I said, three months after youyou met a guy, she said yes.
I said you fell in love, shesaid yes.
And I said you got marriedthree months after, and she
didn't even say yes.
She just showed me the weddingring.
Kertia (56:48):
Wow.
Dennis (56:49):
And the bumps went up my
arm like this.
My band said, hey man, what'shappening to you?
You're turning into Nostradamusor something?
And I said, Man, I said, Man, Idon't know what's happening to
me.
I said, I feel like I wasasking myself, am I an alien now
since I passed away?
Kertia (57:09):
Wow.
Dennis (57:09):
I said, I don't know.
And that's when I began torealize that I had some kind of
gifts.
And then I had anotherexperience, which was not such a
fun experience, but I we we hada a friend that was another
friend who was a bouncer, butthis those people before was not
(57:32):
friends, but this was a goodfriend, cool people with us.
And and all these bouncers arelike huge guys, you know,
really, really big.
I'm 6'2, but these guys, Imean, they're Hawk Hogan type.
Kertia (57:46):
Yeah.
Dennis (57:46):
Uh, and um I had a
premonition that this guy should
not go out this weekend.
I had it on Thursday.
And I said, uh the premonitionstayed with me like a cloud over
my head all day and all night.
Tell this guy, don't go out.
Don't go out this weekend.
Just stay home.
And I'm like, yeah, but if Itell him that he, I mean, who's
(58:10):
gonna mess with this guy?
You gotta be suicidal if youwant to mess with this guy.
Just to look at him, you is yougotta be suicidal.
This cat is huge.
You're gonna start trouble withthis one.
Kertia (58:24):
Forget about it.
Dennis (58:25):
Forget about it, you
know, and so I said, nah, you're
gonna think I'm crazy.
So Friday came, and he workedat this place like an after
hours.
We call it an after party.
It's like after we would playour show, the clubs would close,
and this particular place wouldstay open like till 8, 9, 30,
(58:48):
10 in the morning, yeah, servingdrinks.
So after our show, we would goto these after hours, and he
that's where this bouncerworked.
Yeah, so we we went and we didour show, and I saw I saw him
there, and he was cool, andeverything was cool.
So I said, Nah, I'm not gonnatell him.
I said, That's too crazy.
Maybe it's me, you know.
You've been through a lotlately, you know, you died, man.
(59:10):
Maybe it's just me, you feelingstrange things, you know.
That's how I felt.
So I didn't tell him.
So Sunday came.
We did our show and we went tothe after hours, but he wasn't
there.
Another bouncer was there, andthis bouncer was at the door
(59:31):
having tears rolling down hisface.
And I said, Hey man, uh, what'swrong?
He said, You didn't hear?
I said, No.
What happened?
He said, The bouncer is dead.
I said, Dead I said, whathappened?
(59:52):
He said, He met a girl onSaturday night.
He took her to a hotel.
She waited till he fell asleep.
And took a butcher knife andslashed his throat.
By the time he realized thatshe was cutting his throat, he
had lost so much blood and wentunconscious and died.
Kertia (01:00:11):
Wow.
Dennis (01:00:11):
And I felt so bad
because I felt like I I knew,
but but I didn't tell because,you know, I wasn't sure.
So I went to his funeral.
And after that, I promisedmyself, I said, Man, if you get
a premonition about thepresident of the United States,
I'm gonna tell him.
I don't care how crazy theythink I may be.
(01:00:32):
I said, I'm gonna tell anypremonition that I get about
people, I'm gonna just tellthem.
And it took me a while to dealwith that.
And then my soul told me thathe wouldn't have believed you
anyway.
And also in my downloads, thatwe all have these exit points.
(01:00:54):
Exit points are like, forexample, you're on the phone and
you went on the phone too longand you have to go to work in
the morning, and because youwere on the phone 10 minutes
later than you normally wouldbe, you missed uh an accident
that would have happened in theintersection that you drive your
car.
Kertia (01:01:14):
Yeah, yeah.
Dennis (01:01:15):
But you missed it
because you were on the phone,
or you you missed your plane andthat plane crashed.
Kertia (01:01:21):
Yeah.
Dennis (01:01:22):
Those are all exit
points.
Everybody has these exit pointsif they want to leave the game,
if they don't want to play thegame anymore.
Kertia (01:01:31):
Yeah.
Dennis (01:01:32):
And that was probably
one of his exit points.
But after that, I I saw that Ihad this gift, so I started to
help people and I started to uhdo readings like to help people
in their lives and tell themabout their personal lives or
partners or healing.
That's another thing that Idiscovered that I could do.
(01:01:52):
And and so that's what I I do.
But before that, I mean beforeall the spiritual stuff, I was
just a musician.
I was not looking to bespiritual, I was not looking to
be in that realm so much, butthat's the way life kind of
pushed me there.
So um, and now we're like Isaid, we're in this transition.
(01:02:14):
And here's the thing about thetransition, I mean, God's
viewpoint on it is that if ifyou stay on three 3D and you you
stay on low vibration, God'sjust gonna say, well, oh, she
took the long road home, butshe's coming home.
Kertia (01:02:32):
Yeah.
Dennis (01:02:33):
If if you decide to be
on a high vibration, oh she took
the short road home, but she'scoming home.
Kertia (01:02:39):
Yeah, just perspective.
Dennis (01:02:42):
Okay, right, exactly.
So it's just I don't judgeanybody like it's just if people
like the roller coaster ride,that's that's 3D.
You can do that.
Now, there's gonna be atimeline shift, and I'm gonna
explain this transition in mydownloads.
The timeline shift is liketimelines.
Now, my mother explainedtimelines to me before, but I
(01:03:06):
got the downloads this time.
Every person uh changestimelines every three minutes.
Kertia (01:03:15):
Wow.
Dennis (01:03:16):
Okay, a timeline is just
an option that exists.
Okay.
For example, there's a timelinethat exists right now that you
went to the store instead ofhaving this interview.
That's in the universe, that'sout there.
Or you might experience atimeline where have you ever put
like your keys on a table andyou're sure you put them there,
(01:03:39):
you're positive, and you comeback two hours later and those
keys are not there.
Kertia (01:03:43):
Oh, yeah, things
disappear.
Dennis (01:03:44):
And and you look around,
you're looking around for two
and three hours, you can't findit.
Then you go back to that table,and the keys are right there
again.
Kertia (01:03:53):
Right there.
Yeah.
Dennis (01:03:54):
That's a timeline shift.
You just experience thetimeline shift.
And it could be keys, it couldbe anything.
Okay.
Well, the earth is gonna, whenit when the earth reaches this
5D frequency on the whole earth,it's gonna shift to two
timelines.
One is gonna be 3D duality, andone is gonna be 5D.
(01:04:15):
And whatever vibration you'reon, when that shift happens,
that's the vibration you'll bestuck on until you leave the
game.
So the earth is just asking allthe souls what vibration you're
gonna be on, because once I dothe timeline shift, you will not
be able to jump vibrations.
(01:04:36):
You won't be able to go fromlow to high.
You'll be stuck on whatevervibration you're on.
Kertia (01:04:40):
Yeah.
Dennis (01:04:41):
Yeah.
So that's what we'reexperiencing.
But the earth is gettingbetter.
It is not getting worse.
Kertia (01:04:48):
It looks like it's
getting worse, though, right?
Dennis (01:04:51):
Yeah, because the news
wants to show you only the worst
parts.
It doesn't want to show you allthe sunshine that's happening,
it doesn't want to show you howthe plants are growing much
faster than they ever did beforebecause there's more sunlight.
It doesn't want to show you allthose things.
They want to show you thechanges in the climate or the
changes in the water and thecurrent and all that stuff like
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that.
But there's a lot more going onand it's more positive because
it's higher vibrations.
Higher vibrations means moretruth.
That's why the the governmentscan't lie anymore.
They just do it right in yourface now.
Now it's just us that makeshave to make the choice.
They're not lying, they don'tlie.
They just say it right in frontof your face.
(01:05:34):
Yeah, I'm gonna do this, I'mgonna do that, I'm gonna.
Before they were trying to hidebecause there's too much light.
When the more light comes tothe planet of the earth, it's
showing all the darkness.
So the darkness has no place tohide.
Kertia (01:05:47):
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I love what you saidbefore, like that the people who
kind of feed into the darkness,that you know, as they're
feeding into the darkness,they're not getting the same
results that they expect or thatthey're right.
Dennis (01:06:03):
Exactly.
That's exactly the expectedresults because they're on a
planet that's rising.
Imagine two batteries, positiveand negative.
When you put them together,they they separate.
Kertia (01:06:14):
Yeah.
Dennis (01:06:14):
Okay.
Now imagine somebody who's on alow vibration, but they're on a
planet that's rising.
What's going to happen to thatperson on a low vibration?
They're going to go more andmore crazy.
Because this planet is going tohigher vibrations.
Kertia (01:06:29):
Yeah.
Dennis (01:06:30):
You see?
So that's why we're seeing uhpeople who are on low
vibrations, we're seeing thingslike we never saw before.
You know, we couldn't evenimagine.
We couldn't even imagine that.
And so that separation isbecoming more and more clear
until it's going to go to thosetimelines.
Kertia (01:06:49):
Yeah.
Wow.
Dennis (01:06:51):
Yeah.
So this is all the downloadsthat I got.
And um and it really racked myworld because it totally changed
everything that I believed in,that I thought, you know, um,
you know, about Christ, aboutabout everything.
You know.
(01:07:11):
I mean, Christ was someone thattried to bring the
consciousness of the other sideto this game to show us that we
could live this game better.
That was it.
Okay.
It was not this big mission.
And when they talk about umcertain things in Revelations in
the Bible, they're talkingabout the consciousness of
Christ.
They're not talking aboutChrist coming back in the
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physical, they're talking abouthis thinking of love, joy,
peace.
This is going to come back tothe earth because the earth is
rising in vibration.
Kertia (01:07:41):
That makes perfect
sense.
Dennis (01:07:42):
That's what they're
talking about when they say
Christ coming back or secondcoming, the second coming of the
Christ consciousness, not theChrist's physical body or the
person.
Kertia (01:07:52):
Oh, yeah.
That makes perfect sense.
And I think I guess that iswhat's occurring right now with
this transition into 5D makesperfect sense.
Dennis (01:08:04):
Exactly.
Exactly.
You're gonna see, I mean, justfor example, uh, I saw this in
Texas with this this governorwho hated Mexicans.
He wanted to deport them all,and then the storm comes.
The Mexicans from Mexico comecross the border and saves his
(01:08:27):
daughter and his grandkids.
And now, and now that samegovernor is saying, I will allow
all Mexicans to come into mycounty.
They're they're the best peoplein the world.
That is frequency change likeyou never saw before.
That's because the planet's onhigher vibration.
Kertia (01:08:50):
Yeah, yeah.
Not getting the same results asyou expected.
Dennis (01:08:54):
There you go.
That's right.
That's right.
That's right.
That's what I love about thishigh vibration.
Because people can still try todo evil things, but it's not
going to be the same results.
Kertia (01:09:06):
Yeah.
Yeah, I think, and that providessuch a great perspective shift
because I think with all theupheaval that's happening in the
world right now, the war, itfeels like half the world is
burning.
And a lot of people are feedinginto the fear, especially when
you watch the news and you'rehearing and seeing all the
things.
But like, it's just to knowthat, like, yes, and it's true,
(01:09:30):
because when you look back inthe past and how things occurred
in the past, the wars andeverything that used to happen,
even though we're seeing like arepeat of things like that, it's
not as um excessive as how itused to be.
Dennis (01:09:47):
Exactly, exactly,
exactly, exactly, because the
planet is on a higher vibrationcompletely.
Kertia (01:09:53):
Yeah, so it's like it
gives a great perspective shift
for people to kind of I guess becomforted that there is other
things at play that arehappening that will help to, I
guess, um keep things at youknow, at bay.
You know, it's not going to gopast a certain point or a
(01:10:16):
certain level.
So there's no need to clearbecause this is a transitional
period.
Dennis (01:10:22):
Exactly.
You explained it really well,exactly.
Exactly.
You know, so I mean, so this isthe transition and uh the
people, you know, I I'm doing umreadings for people, and I hope
that you're gonna um put mywebsite uh truth truth energy
(01:10:43):
readings with an s.com.
Um I help people with suicide,I help people with uh who are
sick, I help people with justgeneral life problems, money
problems, whatever the situationmay be.
Um and also uh so they can uhcontact me or book a session
(01:11:03):
with me.
I read people's energy.
What I do is I go into theirenergy and I get the answer.
It's not that I have theanswer, it's like I go in their
energy, ask their soul, hey,what's what's this about?
Can you tell me the bestsolution for this person?
And I get the answer becauseI'm able to hear that.
Um and so I try to help peoplelike that.
(01:11:25):
And also I want to say that I'mdoing an Egyptian retreat in
Egypt.
Uh, there's gonna be fournights on a boat where you have
your own room, like five-starroom on a boat on the Nile
River.
Um, there'll be energy readingthere, there'll be psychic
(01:11:45):
training there, there'll be umholistic breathing, yoga,
meditation, and there'll also besightseeing of special places
that have special energy uhplaces in in temples all around
Egypt.
And uh this will happen fournights on on the boat and then
(01:12:07):
three nights on the land.
There'll also be uh a boutiquehotel with your own room where
I'll be performing music.
Kertia (01:12:16):
Wow.
Dennis (01:12:17):
There, and also uh
they'll be going on trips and
there'll be balloon rides too,if you like that type of stuff
in Egypt, and that's for umseven, eight days.
Um, that's from October 13th toOctober 20th.
So if anybody's interested, ifyou become a member of my
website, you get a discount now.
(01:12:39):
And uh I just wanted to saythat for for the people if
they're interested in that typeof thing.
It's gonna be an amazing,amazing event.
Because during that time, youcan come, you'll be on the Nile
River.
The the boat will take you todifferent locations, temples
older than 2,000 years, and thatyou can see and feel the energy
(01:13:02):
there.
I'll be doing energy readings,health readings also.
Um, there'll be so much nicestuff.
Um, so if anybody's interested,just come to my website and you
can see the details.
And if you become a member, youget a discount right now.
So I just want to say that.
Um yeah.
Kertia (01:13:21):
Thank you for sharing
that, Dennis.
You know, just before you knowwe close off, there's a couple
of things that I want to askyou.
Um you mentioned exit pointsearlier.
And you know, when I first umreached out to you, I told you
like I also experienced an NDEwhen I was just a child.
Dennis (01:13:41):
Right, right.
Kertia (01:13:42):
Like, would you say
that, would you consider that
would have been a possible exitpoint for me?
Like, how does this concept ofexit point work from your
perspective right now?
Dennis (01:13:57):
Well, the thing is, is
that um because the soul, for
example, my mother knew a weekin advance my my future.
Kertia (01:14:06):
Yeah.
Dennis (01:14:07):
So the soul knows 50% of
what's gonna happen in your
life.
Even a child, like a cribdeath, let's say, uh, a baby
comes into the earth for sixmonths and says, This is too
small for me.
This body is too small, I wantout, and they leave.
Kertia (01:14:23):
Yeah.
Dennis (01:14:23):
Okay, and so your soul
knows already a lot of the exit
points and whether you're gonnaleave or not.
You still have free will, butit knows a lot when the exit
points are gonna happen.
Um, now you had a near-deathexperience as a child, but you
came back.
(01:14:44):
So that was just something thatyou needed to experience.
So when you come back into thegame, there's gonna be something
to ignite about you aboutthere's more to this game than
just what you see.
Kertia (01:14:58):
Definitely did that.
Dennis (01:15:00):
Yes, and that and that,
and so it did its job, and you
probably planned that.
Because you came, you plannedit, you planned to be born in
the transition.
You're in the transition.
You could have been born in1920 somewhere, and you would
have missed the transition.
Kertia (01:15:16):
True.
Dennis (01:15:17):
Okay, so you plan to be
here, and this is one of, I want
to say to the viewers, this isone of the most unique times in
the whole universe.
Okay, and by the way, I have tosay in my downloads, aliens are
real.
Yes, yes, yes,extraterrestrials, the
extraterrestrials are real,they're all real, and all are
(01:15:40):
part of God, and they all havesouls.
Animals have souls too, by theway.
Kertia (01:15:45):
Yeah, yeah.
Oh my goodness.
So, like, speaking of evenanimals having souls, like I
don't know, like, would you bevegan?
Or the do you think is thereanything um nothing?
Dennis (01:16:01):
Okay, well, here's
animals.
Okay, here's the thing.
I know I'm gonna now now I'mgonna really, really get deep
here.
Okay, this is my downloads,okay.
This the first thing is thatneither is better than the
other.
Kertia (01:16:18):
Yeah.
Dennis (01:16:19):
Because if you eat
plants, it's scientifically
proved that plants scream whileyou are killing them.
Kertia (01:16:27):
Oh my god.
Dennis (01:16:29):
But they scream on a
higher frequency that you cannot
hear.
That's the first thing.
So eating an animal and theanimal suffered before it got
killed, or eating a plant thatsuffered before it got killed
because you pulled it out of itsroots is the same.
(01:16:51):
But the point is that when youeat, you have to bless your
food, and that means you say toyour food, thank you, food, I
love you, and and I thank youfor giving me nutrition.
That's all.
Now it's been proven, you canlook it up and Google it.
(01:17:13):
A Japanese scientist did anexperiment with two bowls of
white rice.
One one bowl he said every dayfor one month, I hate you,
you're disgusting, I can't standyou.
And the other bowl of whiterice, he said, I love you, you I
adore you, you're so good formy health.
At the end of the month, thebowl that he said, I hate you,
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turned totally black and youcould not eat it.
The bowl that he said, I loveyou, stayed white and it was
edible, you could still eat it.
That's to show you how powerfulyour words are.
So if you have food that's notin a good condition or or that
has too many chemicals orwhatever, when you bless that
(01:17:57):
food, you change the material inthat food, and that food will
be good for you.
You can also do it with water.
Kertia (01:18:06):
Yeah.
Thank you for that.
Yeah, I know because it's beenit's such a huge discussion
amongst people like you know,keyboard warriors on social
media.
You know, it's like this isbetter, that is better.
But as you said, like there isno wrong or right, it's all just
(01:18:28):
an experience.
Dennis (01:18:30):
No, and it's perception
because, like I said, just
because you don't hear the theplant screaming doesn't mean
that uh uh and you're killingthem.
It was a lot plants are alive.
You can even talk to them andthey're gonna grow more, they're
alive.
Kertia (01:18:45):
Yeah.
Dennis (01:18:46):
So just because you kill
it and and you can't, if you
step on an ant, you ain't gonnahear the ant scream, but you're
killing that ant.
Kertia (01:18:53):
Yeah.
Dennis (01:18:54):
But that ant is
screaming, but you can't hear it
because uh our perception,we're not picking up that that
that level of perception.
But the animal, another animalthat's the same as size as the
ant can hear the ant screamingin agony.
Yeah, you see, it's the samefor plants and it's the same for
(01:19:15):
food.
So it's not about that we uheating vegetarian or eating
meat, it's more about blessingit or not blessing it.
Kertia (01:19:27):
Yeah, that's that's a
totally different perspective.
And you know, like your wholeexperience also just you know,
just solidifies that that ideathat there is no death, right?
That you know, like even whenyou know, speaking about your
mom and everything, that lifecontinues, it's it's just
(01:19:50):
another form, it just continuesin another form.
Dennis (01:19:54):
Yeah, well, I mean, when
I died, it was as easy as
drinking a glass of water.
Kertia (01:19:59):
Yeah.
Dennis (01:20:01):
It was not like, in
fact, when I died, I had to make
sure I was dead.
I was looking at my hand, I waslooking at the body, I had to
make sure I'm here, but the bodyis there.
That means I'm I'm dead.
Yeah.
Kertia (01:20:14):
Yeah.
Dennis (01:20:15):
Yeah.
So it was so easy.
You keep your same personality.
Because I I'm the I'm a personthat likes to joke.
I like to laugh.
And I was laughing on the otherside.
That's what I was doing.
In fact, I was having so muchfun.
God was like a big parent.
You know how it how a parentsays in the playground, hey,
don't run around the corner toofast, you might fall.
(01:20:36):
That was God telling me, hey,if you uh if you don't go back
now, you might have to stay.
Kertia (01:20:43):
Mm-hmm.
Wow.
Dennis (01:20:47):
Yeah, so it it it
changed, it changed my whole
viewpoint.
Kertia (01:20:56):
How do you navigate your
life right now?
Dennis (01:20:58):
Like much more, yeah,
much more easier.
Yeah, I don't take things soserious and I don't judge.
Before I was used to judge, oh,that person is horrible, this
person is that, that person ishorrible.
Then I realize, hey, they allhave amnesia, they don't even
know who they are.
And the first thing is when youdie, every person is made out
of one thing (01:21:23):
love.
So this is a game.
So that's the first thing, andthat relieves a lot of stress,
and also the fear of death.
I'm not afraid.
And oh, here's another one ofmy downloads.
Nobody dies a horrible death.
Because your soul is taken outseconds or even half an hour, an
(01:21:47):
hour before you die.
Kertia (01:21:49):
Really?
Dennis (01:21:50):
Yes.
Kertia (01:21:51):
Wow.
Dennis (01:21:52):
So if somebody's being
murdered, they're not going to
experience the murder becausetheir soul's taken out.
Kertia (01:21:58):
Wow.
Dennis (01:21:58):
You're gonna hear people
even tell you in a car
accident, I didn't even feel theimpact because they were
already out of their body.
Kertia (01:22:06):
I've heard that before.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Dennis (01:22:09):
Yeah.
We don't, nobody dies ahorrible death.
That's why when you hearsomebody say, Oh, you know, and
and the person that's eventortured, if it happens too
long, the soul will leave thebody.
It will not stay.
And even women who have beenraped can tell you, I wasn't
there.
I left my body.
I was just, yeah, I was noteven in the body when they were
(01:22:31):
doing it.
I was not there.
They left.
Kertia (01:22:34):
Yeah.
Dennis (01:22:35):
Yeah, because the soul
is taken out.
It doesn't stay for uh longperiods of torture or death.
Kertia (01:22:42):
Wow.
Wow, what a huge um that'sdefinitely a huge per perception
shift.
Dennis (01:22:51):
Oh, definitely.
It changed my musician, my myway of approaching shows because
before I was ambitious, youknow, you can see some of the
pictures of the people I workwith.
So, you know, uh, I wasambitious.
You know, I had to work withQuincy, I had to Michael Jackson
producer, I had to work withuh, you know, Chaka and all
(01:23:11):
these other people, and and andum now it's more I do it because
I want to do it for love, I doit for people to enjoy.
That they're gonna have abetter experience in this game
because they were listening tomy music during my show.
And that's it.
It's not so much of uh, oh,I've got to be the best and I
(01:23:35):
have to be this and that.
I yeah, I I want to do a goodshow, of course, but I don't do
it with the same expectations orpressure.
I do it more with love andenjoyment, and I'm having a good
time, and I'm hoping that it'smaking your day or your night
better from being at my show.
Kertia (01:23:52):
That's beautiful.
That is so beautiful.
That's a beautiful perceptionshift.
Wow.
Dennis (01:23:58):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Because before I was justambitious like crazy, and and I
had to do this and had to dothat, and and constantly on the
go.
Yeah, but but for me it was itit's you know, even the big
stars, you're gonna see that alot of their life is empty.
Kertia (01:24:18):
Because we see all the
time, like a lot, a lot of
stars, they they pass fromoverdoses.
Dennis (01:24:25):
Exactly.
Kertia (01:24:26):
And you can say you can
yeah, the issues that they
experience, and you're like,Well, I thought you should be
happy or feel fulfilled.
Dennis (01:24:35):
Yeah, because they're
not doing that out of love,
they're doing it out of fame orthey're doing it out of uh duty
or whatever, but they're notdoing or doing what people
expect them to do instead ofjust doing what you love to do.
Kertia (01:24:49):
Yeah, that's it.
Yeah, that is so true.
Thank you so much, Dennis.
This was an amazingconversation.
Thank you for sharing.
Dennis (01:24:59):
Yeah, I thank you for
having me on your program, and
I'm so honored, and I thank youfor having me here.
Um, because I I wanted to sharethat with everybody um once I
got this information.
It took me a while to come outof the little the closet, if you
want to call it, to tell peopleabout this information, but now
I don't care about what peoplethink about me or if they think
(01:25:21):
I'm crazy.
That's them.
I know I'm a nice guy.
And and I just try to helppeople, that's all.
And that's what I do.
I I I that's why I do thesessions and the readings and
stuff like that, is to make lifebetter and to give people a
good perspective on how to transhow to navigate this transition
(01:25:42):
in a better way.
Because you don't want to thinkabout logic, because if you go
logic now, you're gonna lead tothe road called insanity.
Why?
Because the the planet, thewhole earth has changed
vibration.
So what a person may used to do12 years ago, and they try to
do the same thing, might notwork correctly or might not work
at all.
Kertia (01:26:03):
Yeah.
Dennis (01:26:04):
Okay, because the
vibration has changed.
So we don't go on logic so muchnow, we should go on vibration.
Is it high or low vibration?
That's it.
And you want to do highvibration, and you don't want to
engage in what I call lowvibration conversation, which is
talking about hey, remember twoyears ago that horrible thing
(01:26:25):
happened and it's gonna happenagain, or fear fear
conversations.
Oh, you hear what's happeningin this country or that country
is good, it could happen here.
That's all low vibrationconversation, yeah.
Kertia (01:26:36):
Yeah, so I'll just keep
our our vibrations high.
Dennis (01:26:41):
And yes, yes, not being
perfect, but as often as
possible keeping it high.
Kertia (01:26:47):
Beautiful.
How is it like, do you findlike you being a musician, a
creative, you're always aroundpeople, right?
Whether you're like atconferences, you're performing,
what have you?
Um how is it like now whenyou're interacting with people,
when you're always on the go?
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Like being you being nowsensitive to receiving this
information, downloads, andthings like that.
Um how is it like?
Do you find that you're um, Iguess, experiencing other
people's energy feels on a moreum on a greater level, or how
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does that affect you?
That like this interaction withpeople, especially when you're
when you're on the go all thetime?
Dennis (01:27:37):
Well, the thing is, I'm
just more careful about my
vibrational environment.
Kertia (01:27:45):
Yeah.
Dennis (01:27:46):
It's very important, and
that's what I tell my clients
also be selfish about that.
Because um in the pan beforeall this happened, I could hang
with everybody, hang out witheverybody, it was not a problem.
But now I'm more selectivebecause if somebody's gonna be
talking about negative things oror in a negative vibration
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about whatever the thing may beabout politics or about uh any
subject, if it's in a lowvibration, I tend to not hang
out with those type of people.
Kertia (01:28:21):
Yeah.
Dennis (01:28:21):
Okay, and and and it and
it doesn't mean it doesn't mean
like I I'm against uh I don'tlike injustice either, but but I
know that hate of any kind is alow vibration, and it's not
gonna do anything but get morelow vibrations.
Kertia (01:28:42):
Absolutely.
Dennis (01:28:43):
Okay.
So so it doesn't mean that Ilike I I I turn my eye to people
who are are are having theinjustice happen in their life.
No, I I I pray for them and I II want things to be good for
them.
But I don't go on the to hateanybody because low vibrations
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in my downloads only bring morelow vibrations.
It does not it does not do thegood that you would want it.
If you want to do more good,you want to be more on high
vibrations.
And and the more you're on highvibrations, you're gonna watch
your life change.
Kertia (01:29:23):
Yeah.
Dennis (01:29:24):
Your life will change,
you'll have more money, you'll
have better jobs, you'll havebetter friends, you'll have
better romance, you'll have uhyou'll have all the things that
you would like and that youwould need when you're on a
higher vibration.
It's like a radio station.
You want to stay on aclassical, you don't want to go
on a heavy metal.
You know?
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Yeah.
So yeah.
Kertia (01:29:47):
Awesome.
Dennis (01:29:48):
So that's yeah.
So that's how I do now.
I mean, because I know a lot ofpeople and I know a lot of
musicians, and some of them Istill like to hang out with, but
some of them I I don't have.
Hang out with anymore becauseof their vibration.
And vibrations, if you're in ahigh vibration, your friends can
even drop off without you evenknowing it or without you even
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trying to do it.
Because they don't find youinteresting anymore.
Because you're not talkingabout hateful things, wars and
uh killing, and how bad thisperson is doing that bad.
You're talking about sunshine.
You're talking about, hey, didyou hear about the baby that
just got born?
Did you hear that?
You're talking about otherthings, so your vibration is
different.
And it's like a radio station.
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They can't get that heavy metalstation.
They can only get Mozart.
So you see.
Kertia (01:30:36):
Yeah, and not everyone
is interested in Mozart.
Dennis (01:30:40):
Well, I mean, that's
just an example.
I'm not saying that you have tolike Mozart.
But I'm just saying that youwant to have on this high
vibration.
That's all.
It's but it's like the radiostation.
Yeah.
Kertia (01:30:53):
Not everyone is into
that.
Um, not everyone um is alignedwith that frequency, like
everyone at their own pace.
Dennis (01:31:02):
Yeah, of course.
Of course, but but you want tohave a high vibration.
And um, however, whateverexample you want to have,
whatever your favorite musicmusic star could be, could be
Beyonce, whatever, whoever itis.
Um, but those frequencies islike radio stations.
And that's why I say if you'rein a high vibration, low
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vibrations can't come around youso easily.
Kertia (01:31:27):
Yeah.
Dennis (01:31:28):
Because if you put a hot
positive and a negative in the
same room, they can't stay verylong.
Kertia (01:31:33):
Yeah.
Dennis (01:31:34):
Have you ever seen a
positive person and a real
negative person how long theycan stay together?
Not very long.
Kertia (01:31:40):
Not long.
Dennis (01:31:41):
Because that's right,
because those those vibrations,
they don't match.
If I sing a certain note, I canbreak a glass if I match the
vibration of the glass.
Kertia (01:31:51):
Yeah.
Dennis (01:31:51):
You see, so that's what
it's all about.
It's about vibrations, not somuch about logic.
Yeah.
Kertia (01:32:01):
Thank you so much,
Dennis.
Thank you.
Dennis (01:32:03):
You're welcome.
You're welcome.
Thank you for having me.
Kertia (01:32:07):
Thank you all for tuning
in as usual and for your
continuous love and support.
If you, like myself, sat backand took in everything that
Dennis had to share with us, Ihope that you had some great
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takeaways.
And even if some of what wasshared challenges your own
beliefs, perceptions, or ideason life, death, our place here
on this planet, in the universe,you could take it as an invite
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to open up new conversations anddiscussions about all of these
things and sit with it, reflecton it, introspect, and see what
you come up with and see whatfeels true for you.
And that's all that's that'sneeded, truly.
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So I've left Dynasty's detailsin the show notes.
If anyone is interested in hiswork, you can reach out to him
directly through his website.
Thank you again, and have awonderful week.