October 31, 2024 • 51 mins
Key Takeaways:
- Your fear is your ego trying to protect you. Fear is a natural part of the ascension journey, as the ego tries to hold onto its old programming.
- Everything you need is already inside of you. Spiritual gifts are inherent within everyone.
- The importance of identifying and acknowledging our core wounds, to understand them so that we do not continue to operate from them.
Spiritual Life Coach and Empowerer of Confidence Jaclyn Francis, shares her transformative journey into energy healing, beginning with her first Reiki session that changed her life. She discusses her spiritual awakening, the discovery of her light language, and her mission to help women reclaim their self-worth through the Worthiness Codes Ascension Blueprint.
We touch on the challenges of navigating relationships, understanding core wounds, and the significance of ego deaths and ancestral trauma in personal growth. Jaclyn emphasizes the importance of trusting one's intuition and the need for grace during the healing process, especially when it involves major life changes. We highlight the importance of recognizing signs from the universe as guidance toward a more fulfilling life.
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Kertia (00:00):
Hello again, listeners.
Welcome to the second season ofthe Other Side of Fair.
Now I took a much-needed breakto reassess a few things and the
direction I'd like to shiftthis podcast in Now.
This shift will be very gradual, so stick around and enjoy what
I have in store for you.
I'll share more details aboutthis as I begin to put things
(00:23):
into place.
I'll share more details aboutthis as I begin to put things
into place.
There is just so much, so muchto be discovered.
Okay, so let's get to the topicof this conversation divine
feminine energy, so that theycan operate from a place of
(00:45):
centeredness and confidence,while shifting out, of operating
from our core wounds, a lot ofthose icky things that we carry
around inside of us and that alot of us often project onto
others and onto situations thatwe may often encounter in our
(01:08):
daily lives.
So what I particularly likedabout this conversation is the
message of just how empoweringempowering one's spiritual
journey can be.
Now let's get into it.
(01:29):
I'd love to hear more aboutyour journey into coming into
(01:50):
energy healing and you know thespiritual side of life.
How did that begin?
Jaclyn (01:55):
for you.
It's been a long journey, along and slow journey over the
last seven years.
I want to say it started withReiki healing.
I had my first Reiki sessionand it completely changed my
(02:16):
life.
It helped rid my anxiety.
I was able to land a new job.
I left a partner that I wasn'thappy with.
All in the span of two weeks Iwas like what is this?
What is this thing thatcompletely just transformed my
life.
So I went on to get certifiedin Reiki and that was back in
like 2017, I want to say so thatkind of started everything From
there.
I just gave myself permissionjust to continue exploring
(02:39):
spirituality with crystals andmeditation and going really slow
.
And then 2021, I had a massiveawakening.
My light language came online.
I had a Kundalini experiencethat all stemmed from
appendicitis.
It was a wild experience, butthat awakening really kicked
(03:00):
things into gear.
I started taking clients andhelping others heal through
light language and energyhealing.
And then, most recently, I leftmy last relationship to the man
I thought I was going to marryand it was just this inner
knowing that I had that I wasmeant for something else.
(03:20):
So I left and subconsciously, Iset out on a year long
Ascension journey.
That was by far the biggestawakening I had.
I left my career.
I had a download of a blueprintcalled the Worthiness Code's
Ascension Blueprint and I wasinitiated into every aspect of
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that blueprint and that's whatI'm teaching others today as
well.
Kertia (03:48):
That sounds amazing.
Taking that process of you knowwhen your awakening started,
with appendicitis like what wasthat for you?
Because have you experiencedanything spiritually prior to
that or was that your first?
And what was that whole processlike that first awakening that
you had?
Jaclyn (04:08):
Yeah, I, like I said, I started really slow, so I was
familiar with Kundalini energy.
I never heard light languagebefore.
I didn't know what that was.
But essentially what happenedwas my stomach started to really
hurt.
So I went to lie down to doself Reiki and my higher self
came through and I just heardthis is a spiritual initiation.
(04:31):
You're going to get really sick, but you're protected.
And I was like, okay, and thenI started channeling light
language and from there I got upand I started purging and I
couldn't touch my body.
The energy was just reallystrong running through me.
And then the next day I went tothe hospital and had to get my
appendix out and in that moment,being in the ER for nine hours,
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everyone around me was so sick.
I just sat there and wassending love and light to
everyone and if you know me,that's not my personality, I'm
more impatient.
Wanting to get out of therewould be so nervous of what was
going on, but I was so calm soit really shifted my perspective
of everything.
(05:17):
At the same time, it reallyscared me.
So I think, because everythinghappened all at once and it
shook me, I had to go getsurgery.
So I was hesitant to dive intoit deeper.
I took a little bit of time off.
I want to say I took about sixmonths off before giving myself
(05:41):
permission to explore that lightlanguage and explore the
Kundalini and and take it fromthere.
Kertia (05:49):
That is tremendous.
How did you begin to tap intoyour skills?
Because then there was theReiki, which you had already
begun, and then you had thatinitiation process and now, like
you had to download with thelight language, you know, like
that process, when you decidedthat you were ready or that you
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wanted to open yourself to thatright, how did you learn to tap
into that?
Because I think a lot of us, wecome with spiritual gifts, but
sometimes for some of us, thereis a fear of opening ourselves
to that part of reality and thensometimes there's also the
confusion that comes along withit and not knowing what to do
(06:32):
with all of that information.
So what was that like for you?
Jaclyn (06:35):
Yeah, the way I teach others is everything lives
inside of you, right?
You are an infinite being.
Your soul is infinite.
The gifts that you have areinfinite.
It all depends on your soul'sevolution and journey for this
lifetime and those aspects ofself you're meant to awaken for
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this lifetime.
So, obviously, for me, lightlanguage was part of that
journey.
I didn't know about it, but Ireceived it.
And because I received it, Iwas like, okay, this is a reason
, this all happened for a reasonand I asked for the remembrance
.
I was in a sauna and I wassitting there and I said just
help, give me the remembrance ofhow I'm meant to help others
(07:19):
heal.
And a whole light languagetransmission came through, after
it being dormant for six monthssince I first experienced it.
So it's really just goingwithin, asking for the
remembrance and opening yourheart, opening yourself up to
receive.
But you're meant to ask forhelp, to ask your higher self,
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to ask your guides, your angels,and again to really tap into
the remembrance from within.
Kertia (07:46):
That is really beautiful and I think you know, like, as
I mentioned before, anotheraspect to that is some of us
we're aware that we have thesegifts, because I know, you know,
like a few people that I'mclose to, and we are aware of
the gifts that they have, butthey there's this fear of
leaning into it, of tapping intoit, because sometimes the
(08:08):
information, whatever it is,that's coming through, it seems
like it's too much all at onceand then they're afraid of, like
you know, there's thatconditioning and programming of
what the culture or the societyhave told you, the meaning of
these things, and then there'sthat level, that element to that
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as well.
So, like it's reallyinteresting when you can kind of
lean into that and openyourself to the experience and
then learn how to utilize thesegifts that you came with.
So it's really, reallybeautiful.
Now you're working with womento help women on their own
(08:50):
journeys.
Tell me more about that.
Jaclyn (08:52):
Yeah, it was so funny because I typically help the
masculine.
My one-on-one clients havealways been men and that was
just how it happened, and sowhen I received the download of
the worthiness codes, it wasvery much like you're meant to
help the feminine collective.
And my ego was like, no, we'rehelping the masculine, why are
(09:14):
we helping the feminine?
And so my ego was not okay withit, which is funny.
And I'm like, of course I'mmeant to help the feminine.
I'm such a mirror for, and I'mlike, of course I'm meant to
help the feminine, I'm such amirror for women, just given
everything that I recently wentthrough.
So it's a beautiful, beautifulblueprint and essentially what
it is.
(09:34):
It's a seven-step journey ofascension, and people describe
ascension as awakening your soulto live within.
The 5D is how most of thespiritual community will explain
it.
The way I like to explainascension is as an inward
journey to expand your soul, totap into your divine worthiness,
(09:58):
because once you're inalignment to your self-worth,
that's when everything opens upfor you, to your self-worth.
That's when everything opens upfor you when you're back into
wholeness, when you live withinyour confidence, when you know
you're worthy of being exactlywho you are living life exactly
(10:18):
how you want to live life you'reable to receive from that place
.
So it's a beautiful inwardjourney to help women, just
reclaim their self-worth.
Kertia (10:24):
I love that.
Jaclyn (10:24):
I love that you mentioned the worthiness codes.
Kertia (10:27):
Can you take me through how you use that to actually
assist women on that journey toself-worthiness and their own
inner ascension?
Jaclyn (10:41):
Yeah, like you said, the process can be overwhelming for
people, especially if they havethat call within them that
they're meant to awakensomething, whether that's a
spiritual gift or they're meantfor more in life.
It can be very scary becauseanytime we head into the unknown
it's scary for humans and I cantalk about it from personal
(11:03):
experience.
When I left my relationship, Ishortly after left my career and
I was completely in this periodof the unknown and having now
understanding what the blueprintis.
It's really giving people astep-by-step process of okay,
instead of becoming sooverwhelmed with just diving
right in, not having support,not knowing where to turn and
(11:26):
just feeling lost.
Essentially, it's guidingpeople through the process of
letting go, of healing, ofexpansion, of rebirth, while
also holding key aspects of selfalong the way that you're able
to tap into and activate atcertain points.
Again, to keep things morestreamlined, even though the
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process is quantum right, thisis not a linear process when
you're moving into awakening,when you're healing, but it's
taking that quantum process andputting it in a linear order.
Kertia (11:59):
That sounds really amazing.
Thank you, I love that.
Thank you, you mentioned that.
Thank you, you know.
You mentioned, you know, tworelationships that you had and
you walking away from thoserelationships, specifically the
most recent one where you feltlike or where you had the
knowing right that this was notthe path you were meant to take.
(12:22):
How did you because leaving anyrelationship behind is really
difficult, right, how did younavigate that?
Jaclyn (12:33):
Yeah, it was.
That was the hardest thing I'veever done in my life Because,
like I said, it was the person Ithought I was going to marry.
He just bought us a new house,so it was this sense of security
.
So, for women, obviouslyfeeling safe is our number one
priority.
We need in life to be able toespecially live in our feminine
(12:55):
energy.
We have to feel safe enough toreally allow ourselves to do
that.
So I had the inner knowing for Imean, it was a four-year
relationship.
I probably had the innerknowing for three years and,
like most women, we stay inrelationships much longer than
we should because we have thatinner knowing, we have that
(13:16):
intuition.
But the way that society hasprogrammed us, we want to be the
savior right.
We want to save the otherperson, we want to put the other
person before ourselves.
We have this clear visionwithin our minds of what our
life can look like if the personchanged and we hold on to that
right.
(13:37):
So it got to a point where Ijust kept seeing things right in
front of me that I didn't like,that weren't in alignment, and
I finally there was this momentthat we had where I felt really
called to ask him a question,and I and I asked him if we were
still on track for gettingengaged next year, and he looked
(14:02):
at me and he couldn't answerthe question.
He could not answer thequestion.
In that moment I was like, wow,okay, this is exactly what I
needed to hear.
So that was a gift from theuniverse, as I took it, to allow
me to know that, okay, now it'stime to take the step that I've
always known was meant to take.
So once that happened, it was aperiod of riding the wave, of
(14:27):
feeling the fear, of questioningmyself, but I held my center,
knowing that that intuitivereason to leave is there for a
reason and life is going to beso beautiful once I get through
this.
And that's exactly whathappened.
So you just have you have totrust yourself.
Kertia (14:47):
Yeah, that is so true.
I like that you pointed it outthat you know, like, when you
ask that question and theresponse that you did or didn't
get in the moment was your cueto make that choice.
And I think a lot of us, we, wehave so many cues all the time,
so many signs all the time, somany.
(15:08):
You know there are so manythings that um comes into or
comes to our attention and wedecide to look the other way or
make an excuse for it or deny itand pretend not to see it, and
that is something that we dooften, you know, especially as
women, because, as you said, alot of us are programmed to, you
(15:33):
know, like, be of service tosomeone else, whoever that
person may be right, whetherit's for a partner, or to, you
know, like, the other people inour lives or family.
We are so programmed to be ofservice to others and less of
service to our own selves andmeeting our own wants and needs
(15:55):
and desires, right.
So, yeah, like you knowing forthree years, like I can think of
easily two relationships thatI've personally had where the
signs were there, girl, theywere there, yeah and I
completely ignored them like Idid and they ended badly.
So so, yeah, and you know, Iwas just like.
(16:21):
You know, in hindsight it'sjust like I knew, I knew but I
wasn't paying attention and Imade excuses and I denied the
things that I saw.
So, yeah, intuition is a hugepart of it.
And then another part of it islike when you're also operating
from your wounds, because Irecognize within myself that I
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was operating from a place of myown core wounds, from trauma
that I've experienced inchildhood, right, and so like.
A lot of this stuff wasmirrored in the relationships
that I also got into and also inmy decision making process when
it came to the people that Ichose as partners.
(17:02):
So let's talk about that for abit.
And then you know, like how canwe shift from operating from
our core roots to operating fromthat space of knowing?
Yeah, it's so beautiful whenyou go through a breakup.
Jaclyn (17:20):
It's so beautiful when you go through a breakup, though
it's hard, though it's scary,when you're able to take a step
away from it and reflect on it.
That's when you become aware ofyour wounding, of the patterns
right.
And something I saw when I leftthat relationship was I was
operating from a place of suchdeep codependency and I was
(17:44):
attracting narcissists, and thatruns deep within my own lineage
, my paternal lineage.
It runs deep within my ownstory of the amount of men that
I attract that hold thosenarcissistic tendencies, and I
never realized it until I gavemyself the space to actually
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reflect and go within.
So, first and foremost, alwaysgive yourself grace, no matter
if you stay in a relationshiplonger than you do or if you're
dating someone who's reflectinga pattern and you're operating
from your wounding.
Give yourself grace becauseyou're learning.
Like I said, your soul isinfinite.
There are so many layers to you.
So as you awaken, you'relearning.
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Like I said, your soul isinfinite.
There are so many layers to you.
So as you awaken, you'relearning yourself.
So it's important to be gentleto yourself and not be hard on
yourself within the process.
But when you understand yourwounding, you're essentially
sitting with yourself and you'repeeling back layers.
I love to play the why game.
When it comes to dissectingyour trauma, dissecting your
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patterns, your shadows, yourwounding, when you become aware
of something, of a certainaspect of energy and you want to
dive into it, play the why game, ask why is this showing up,
why is this here?
And when we were younger, whenwe were kids I don't know if you
ever played the game with yourparents you would just say why
after everything, and they wouldget so mad and crazed.
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It's literally doing the samething with the energy.
It's looking at it anddissecting the layers and trying
to understand things a littlebit deeper and eventually you'll
get to the core.
You'll get to the core of thatwound and why it's there, which
will help you break through it.
Kertia (19:30):
Yeah, that's so true.
I think I spoke about a versionof the Y game, I think, at the
first season of the podcast.
I love it.
Yeah, you continuously ask thatquestion until you can get to
the core of a problem, and theyuse this for other things too.
(19:51):
You can use this in in theseterms, or it is something that
they also use in businesspractices.
So it's really interesting thatyou brought that up, because
that is something that I didaddress on the first season and,
you know, like in a way forpeople to kind of like use that
to get to the core of somethingthat they're actually
experiencing, to kind of likeunravel that experience.
(20:15):
So, yeah, it's a it's a yeah, Ilove that.
Jaclyn (20:19):
it's a beautiful practice.
And look, this is more tounderstand on a conscious level.
We're not always meant tounderstand everything, so
sometimes you may not understandand it may be better to just
really sit and meditate andallow yourself to just feel what
comes up and move through itthat way, or journal, and just
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allow yourself to free flowthrough your shadows, through
your wounding, to see what comesup.
So, again, you have to explore.
It's exploration withinyourself to, of course, peel
back the layers, but understandwhat works for you, because it's
not a one-size-fits-all type ofthing.
At the end of the day, yeah,yeah, that is true.
Kertia (21:02):
What does your own practice look like currently?
Because you've done the Reiki,you know, like you spoke about
meditation earlier.
Is there anything else that youinclude in your current
practice that you use to likekeep you centered?
Jaclyn (21:24):
myself every single day and it looks different every day
.
But the one thing I always dois I have an altar, and I just
did it before getting on thispodcast.
I'll light an incense, go to myaltar, express gratitude to my
ancestors, as well as just tomyself and to my life, and set
intentions for the day ahead.
That practice usually expandswhere I'll sit with cacao in the
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morning or at some point duringthe day and drop in that way,
and there's always some sort ofchanneling involved.
Like I said, my biggest modalityis my light language, so my
throat is blocked this morning,which is interesting, and I'll
have to sit with that after tosee why is this energy coming up
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.
But this is something I'veactually been working through a
lot, but sitting and channelinglight language, but also just
any emotions that come through.
I always like to talk about itout loud, so I'm a big channeler
.
I don't always sit inmeditation silently.
I like to use my voice toreally drop in and center myself
(22:31):
.
So it looks different every day, but that's pretty much the
gist, that's so cool.
Kertia (22:37):
That is so cool.
What would you say?
You know on your path, right,because we all have wounds.
We, you know your path, right,because we all have wounds.
We, you know, like, we've allexperienced some type of trauma,
whether we're aware of it ornot, right, yeah, we're human.
So what would you say were someof the things that came up for
you, um, that were mostchallenging for you to deal with
(23:00):
, to, um, to kind of face or tokind of work through on your
journey, because you know, likeI know, when you're on this kind
of journey, like all yourissues and your wounds, they
don't suddenly go away, theydon't suddenly disappear.
The same way, how you're kindof helping people to work
(23:20):
through their own wounds and youknow to kind of like come into
their own power, it's the sameway you kind of have to work on
yourself and work on your ownwounds and go through your own
healing process and face a lotof the things that are difficult
to face.
So what were some of thosethings that came up for you that
were most challenging in theprocess of your awakening?
Jaclyn (23:45):
Yeah, the first thing that comes to mind was anytime I
experienced an ego death.
Ego deaths are incredibly hardto work through and essentially,
what an ego death is is anaspect of your ego, or you can
look at it as like a chunk ofyour ego is dying off in order
for your authenticity to comethrough, for your soul to expand
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and be the leader over your ego, or over that aspect of ego
that has been leading you.
Ego deaths are really hardbecause the ego wants to hang on
for dear life and it usuallyhangs on through some sort of
fear to try to get you to stopfrom allowing it to die off.
So those have been reallychallenging to navigate, which
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leads me into the next thought,which is fear.
Anytime that fear has come up,that energy has been so deep and
it's usually an energy thatgoes past.
Myself, I've moved through fearheld in other lifetimes that I
had to move through,specifically tied to the witch
wound.
That was really difficult.
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Ancestral trauma is reallydifficult to work through as
well, again, because the layersof the energy, the layers of the
trauma and the wounding runreally deep and you have to feel
all of that to get to the otherside of it.
So when you're in the energy,that's super dense, that's super
deep and you allow yourself tofeel you're literally feeling
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all the things.
And that can be terrifying whenyou don't know what's going on,
and it can be really scary toallow yourself to go to the
depths of your soul like that.
So for me, that's how I movethrough energy.
I, I feel everything and I andI it's like I'm reliving it.
In a way, my body's reliving it.
(25:36):
Again, not everyone's the same,um, so it just depends, but
yeah, yeah, and it's yeah, it'svery deep, it's very deep.
Kertia (25:47):
It's very challenging, to say the least, but you
mentioned just now somethingabout your past lives.
Was this a part of like a pastlife regression, or how did that
show up for?
Jaclyn (26:03):
you.
This was like a normal Tuesday.
This was when I was like in thedepths of the healing portion
of my ascension journey.
So I want to say this was likesometime last November I sat in
a medicine ceremony, a mushroomceremony in October, which
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really just opened up thefloodgates to my gifts and my
ability to feel so this.
I just knew I had to sit withmyself one day.
I don't remember exactly whattriggered it, because usually
something outside of me willtrigger me to sit and go within,
but I sat with myself and I waslike, okay, why am I sitting
(26:49):
here?
And I was just led into a pastlife and I was calling myself by
a different name and that's howI knew I was in a past life.
And I was brought through thetrauma from that past life and
how it's affecting me right nowand why I needed to break
through it.
So that was, it was wild and itwas.
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It was a difficult one.
Kertia (27:12):
Yeah, it must have been.
I think I've heard that we'renot meant to remember all of our
past lives as core, because itwould just be too much.
And looking back on some of itis definitely helpful.
It gives you so muchinformation about certain things
that are currently manifestingin your own life at the moment
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and how you can kind of likeclear that or move through that
and resolve that issue.
And then there are others thatare just not helpful.
So I've heard that, yeah, we candefinitely use our past lives,
that information, to inform usabout our current circumstances,
but then it is not somethingwhereby, like, you should have
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access to all of it, becausethen there'll be way too much
information and not all of thatinformation is helpful in your
current incarnation at themoment.
So, like that was reallyinteresting, like you being able
to go through that process anduse your past life to give you
the information needed for thiscurrent moment and how that
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could have assisted you.
Like also do that with others,or is that something that you've
just experienced for yourselfon your own, with the assistance
of someone else?
Jaclyn (28:32):
Yeah, that was just something I experienced on
myself and I didn't haveassistance with someone else.
It was just me sitting withmyself in that moment, which, of
course, made it harder becauseI didn't have someone to hold
space for me.
I was just like what is goingon?
But I completely agree with youin terms of past lives and
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we're not meant to access all ofthem, because the way I look at
past lives it's not linear.
Right, time isn't linear, butthat's how we understand time as
humans, as also how we look atpast lives as humans.
We used to be this person andnow we're this person, when, at
least the way I like to look atit is everything is in the
(29:15):
quantum, everything is happeningsimultaneously, all at once.
So these lifetimes are stillgoing on, they're still
happening.
So all you're doing is you'reshifting your energy, you're
pulling your energy into anotherfrequency that you're meant to
experience for some reason and,like I said at the beginning of
(29:36):
the episode, you have specificaspects of self, you have
specific gifts that you're meantto tap into within this
lifetime for reasons.
The same goes with trauma, withwounding.
You have certain aspects oftrauma and your wounding that
you're meant to clear and you'remeant to understand.
So it just depends on whereyou're at, and I don't believe
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in trying to force anything.
So if you're feeling called toexperience past life, regression
or tap into a past life andit's not coming from your ego,
there's like that deep call todo it, it's probably for a
reason, and I would 100% inviteyou to do it.
But I mean, if I were able todo it on my own and I didn't
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even ask for it, you canprobably do it on your own too.
Just sit and ask for theremembrance, set the attention
and see what happens, becauseyou'll be surprised.
The more you crack yourselfopen, the more you tap into your
power, and these things aren'twildly uncommon Like.
I'm sure it sounds a little bitcrazy if you're new to this
journey, but if I can do it,others can do it too.
Kertia (30:46):
Yeah, that is so true.
How would you say because, justbecause we're on a topic, there
are certain gifts that we cancarry over from our past lives
or acts to be activated in thislifetime?
How do you go about doing that?
Jaclyn (31:07):
Yeah, Again, it goes into the remembrance and just
asking for the remembrance ofsomething.
At the same time you don't wantto overwhelm yourself, right?
You don't want to sit there andbe like, oh, help me remember
energy, healing and lightlanguage and my clairaudience
and my clairvoyance, like all ofthose things.
I just really believe thatthings will present themselves
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to you if you're meant to tapinto it deeper and so become
aware of the things that youfeel called to become aware of
what's happening within yourouter reality.
If you're in meditation and youstart hearing a ringing in your
ear, that might be clearaudience, which is clear hearing
trying to come through.
So take time to develop thatgift right, Dive into that gift
(31:54):
and hone in on that gift whileasking for help doing research
within the human body, ofdissecting information, to just
open up that channel and focusyour awareness there.
And then, if you are open toplant medicine, like I did, I
sat with psilocybin and that isa teacher that really activates
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the gifts that you hold.
And, like I said, I always hada clear knowing.
I didn't know my clairsentience, my clear feeling was a gift,
but it really activated andopened that gift for me.
So there are multiple ways thatyou can tap into it.
I'm a big component of plantmedicine so it just depends on
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you know what you feel called todoing.
Kertia (32:40):
That's amazing.
Do you want to say more?
Do you want to speak more?
Jaclyn (32:43):
sat with any other plant medicine yet besides psilocybin
(33:06):
, because I don't believe insitting with anything from the
point of the ego.
I'm sure the listeners arefamiliar with ayahuasca.
So many people are going to thejungle and doing ayahuasca and
I think that's beautiful, aslong as you're doing it from a
place of like.
I know I'm meant to do this, mysoul is calling me here and you
you're doing it from a place oflike.
I know I'm meant to do this, mysoul is calling me here and
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you're not doing it from a placeof everyone else is doing it,
so I want to do it and I'm goingto go and sit with plant
medicine, right.
So that's first and foremost.
The way my journey started waswith microdosing.
I started microdosingpsilocybin and this was right
before I had my first awakeningwith the Kundalini and the light
language and the appendicitis.
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I was actually taking Adderallfor a while and I had a complete
nervous breakdown on theAdderall and I said, okay, I
know I need to get off of this.
I started working with someoneand she said let's start
microdosing and she taught mehow to do it and that completely
rewired my nervous system and Ithink that's why a lot of gifts
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were able to come through.
I had the space within my body,I was calm within my body to
allow that to happen.
So if you're someone and againI'm not a doctor at all but if
you are someone who suffers fromoverthinking or anxiety or
depression, microdosing is abeautiful tool, a beautiful
medicine to help with that, andit's such a small dose that
you're not going to have a wildjourney.
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When you sit with the medicinein a larger capacity, it's
literally like getting 10 yearsof therapy within six hours or
eight hours, years of therapywithin six hours or eight hours
and you move through a lot.
So it's a beautiful, beautifulway to sit with a medicine, have
a space holder there to holdspace for you and guide you
(34:56):
through the journey and reallymove through the things that you
didn't know you had to movethrough.
But the medicine does that.
The medicine speaks to yourbody, speaks to you to move
through.
But the medicine does that.
The medicine speaks to yourbody, speaks to you to move
through what is present in yourfield, to get you to the place
that you're meant to get to.
So that's my take on it, and itgoes so much deeper.
Like I said, it helps awakengifts and it's just a beautiful
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energy.
Kertia (35:22):
You mentioned previously your most recent awakening.
How was that for you?
How was that different from thefirst one?
Jaclyn (35:32):
This last one.
Well, the first one was veryabrupt.
Right, it was the lightlanguage, the kundalini.
It was an initiation and Iended up in the hospital.
So it was very like jolting itwas an initiation and I ended up
in the hospital, so it was verylike jolting.
This one was, of course, aninitiation into itself, but it
required a lot from me.
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Like I said, I had to shed alot of things.
I had to shed my relationship,I had to shed my career and I
was brought into healing thedepths of my being to a level
that I've never experiencedbefore.
So there were points of thejourney that were very daunting,
but on the other side of it, itwas the most beautiful thing
(36:16):
I've ever experienced because itreally changed the person that
I sit here as now.
I am a person that livesthrough the frequency of
unconditional love.
I am someone who has ascended,has awakened, and understands
myself on a very different level, understands how life works on
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a very different level, and I'mjust living in a much happier,
grounded, open state of being soaligned to my worthiness, and I
wouldn't change it for anything.
Truly, it was the biggest giftthat I've ever been given, and,
though it was difficult and,though it completely changed my
life, it changed my life in themost positive way.
Kertia (37:04):
That's amazing.
A part of this whole ascensionprocess and being able to
embrace it is a lot of the feararound that and what comes with
that.
What advice do you have forpeople who recognize that they
have these gifts?
Gifts, um, we all have it tosome extent.
(37:31):
We all came with differentgifts.
It's just some of us choose notto use it and some of us are
just completely aware that weeven have them.
Right, but for the people whowould like to delve into this
version of reality, what wouldyou have to say about the fear
around it?
That can be helpful or, I don'tknow, supportive in some way.
Jaclyn (37:55):
Yeah, the fear is a very normal part.
The fear is your ego.
Your ego is meant to keep youcomfortable, to keep you safe.
So your ego is not your enemy.
You're meant to integrate yourego.
So if fear is coming up for you,allow yourself to sit with the
fear, allow the fear to speak toyou, but at the same time, give
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that fear unconditional loveand speak to your ego.
Speak to that fear as if it's alittle child, letting the fear
know that she or he is safe toexplore these new parts of their
being, that they're safe toexpand and change their life in
the way that they're feelingcalled to.
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So, in order to really movethrough the fear that will arise
from you saying yes to going onan ascension journey, an
awakening journey, exploringyour gifts.
However you want to look at it,it comes down to unconditional
love, because you don't want tojust push the fear away, because
the fear is going to get louder.
You want to allow yourself tolook at the fear, see what's
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coming up for you, becausethat's probably something you're
going to have to work throughat some point in your journey.
But be very gentle to your fear, to your ego, and send it
unconditional love and watch howthe ego will get quieter and
become more integrated into yourbeing as you take that step
forth to really explore theseparts of you.
Kertia (39:24):
That was lovely.
Speaking to your fear like achild and I think a lot of us we
don't kind of like realize howmuch we need that right, that
love, to give ourselves thatlove and that patience yeah,
Like speaking to your fear likea child.
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That's the first time I'veheard someone say that actually,
and I think that is so helpful.
That is so helpful and it's acomplete different.
It gives you a completedifferent perception of your it,
because you can't anyways, evenif you try.
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But you can learn how to use itand you can learn to see it
differently.
Jaclyn (40:18):
Yeah, just to add to that too.
It's energy, everything isenergy.
So your fear is energy.
So the more you look at thatfear and give into that fear and
are quote unquote me to thatfear or let the fear affect you,
that energy is growing.
That's how entities happen inthe first place, right?
(40:39):
You're giving into the energyso it grows and grows and
becomes a bigger part of you andallows it to take over your
being, and that's how younavigate your life.
So when you're giving itunconditional love and you're
giving it kindness and you'regentle with it and you're
treating it like a child, that'syour light coming into that
energy.
You're integrating your lightinto the quote unquote darkness,
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into the fear, into the shadow,and now that's when it's
integrated.
So now it's not controllingyour life, but now it's just a
part of you and it will arisewhen it's trying to teach you
something, but it's no longergoing to control your life.
Instead, the higher aspects ofyourself will be the ones that
are navigating your life for you.
Kertia (41:20):
Absolutely, Absolutely.
I love that.
You know you helping the divinefeminine.
Let's talk about that some more.
You know you helping the divinefeminine.
Let's talk about that some more.
You know what is the divinefeminine, what are qualities of
the divine feminine and how canwe embrace that more.
Jaclyn (41:39):
Yeah, so the way I look at the divine feminine is
essentially just being in yourhealthy feminine right.
It's being the queen energy,the goddess energy.
It's being a woman who isdivinely aligned to their
authenticity, to their truth.
No matter, look, it doesn'tnecessarily have to be a gender
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role.
It doesn't have to be you know.
You have to be a woman.
If you're a man who identifiesmore as feminine, then you can
consider yourself divinefeminine.
I'm never going to be someoneto tell you that's wrong or
that's right, but, speaking justspecifically to women, it's
really allowing you to be backinto wholeness, back into your
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center, because being worthy,being confident, being a being
of love, these are all traitsthat are feminine right.
Being feminine is soft innature.
Being feminine is the abilityto receive, while, at the same
time, being feminine is someonewho's not afraid to feel, to
feel all their feelings, toexplore their anger, to explore
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their shadows, and it's bringingit all into wholeness with
oneself and living from thatplace.
Kertia (42:56):
Yeah, and I like that you pointed out that, both men
and women, we have the divinemasculine and the divine
feminine, and it's for us tohave, I guess, a balance between
those two energies and be ableto facilitate not just equality
of both but operating from bothof them equally, which I think
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is something that a lot of usstruggle with, because on the
side with males, I know it'sbecoming more of a conversation
today where males are speakingof their own inner divine
feminine qualities as well.
I know, you know we talk aboutit on the side with, you know,
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women primarily, but then thereis that side with the men as
well.
We all have that yin and yangenergy within us, so I like that
you also mentioned that as well.
As it related to the males.
What do they identify more withthat energy or not?
Jaclyn (44:01):
Yeah, because at the end of the day, it's all energy.
I think it's just perspectiveand how you look at it, and
people will speak differently totheir perspective of the
feminine and masculine energy.
I agree with you that of course, we have both within us and
we're meant to bring it intounion within ourselves and
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operate from a place of balance,while at the same time, you'll
have specific seasons of lifewhere you're more in your
feminine and you're more livingfrom that.
Sometimes, especially intoday's society, as
entrepreneurs and women inbusiness, we lean more into the
masculine, but it's being ableto have a dance, a fluid dance,
between the both, so they'realways in balance.
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What I will say from my personalexperience?
I find that, at least formyself but I feel like I
experienced it myself becausethis is how others are supposed
to experience it too that womenare fully in their power when
they're in their divine feminineand they have the counterpart
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of a masculine partner who'sfully in his divine masculine
and to operate from those tworoles.
That is where you will reallybe able to tap into your truest
power, while, of course, beingable to have that dance within
yourself If your partner, who'sa man, needs to be more in his
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feminine, then you can be morein your masculine right.
It's a balance, but I find thatthat is the most powerful
energy to be in as women is toreally allow ourselves to
experience our feminine fully,because that's when you'll be
able to tap into your gifts andall of that amazing stuff.
Kertia (45:49):
Absolutely.
I love your explanation.
That was a really goodexplanation, thank you.
Is there anything else youwould like to share with us
about your work that you do withwomen, or just about the
journey in general?
Jaclyn (46:05):
Yeah, I also host a podcast.
It's called the WorthinessCodes Podcast.
It's a self-hosted podcast andI share episodes for guided
meditations and light languagetransmission.
So for listeners who neverexperienced light language
before, it's a beautiful way toexperience and receive the
energy.
I also work with clientsone-on-one as a spiritual life
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coach, really going in to helpthem see life from a wider lens,
to really understand how tobest navigate themselves and
life.
And I'm also working on theonline course of the Worthiness
Codes Blueprint to share withthe Feminine Collective.
So that should be done,hopefully by the end of the year
.
I'm really excited about that.
(46:52):
And yeah, I mean, if you'reinterested in this journey of
ascension, in this journey ofawakening, it's for a very
specific reason the call.
Once you have it, it's nevergoing to go away.
It's only going to get louder.
So if you feel the call toawaken, allow yourself to dive
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into it.
You don't have to dive inheadfirst and leave everything
behind.
You can go into it slowly andwhat feels good for you, but
just know that it's there for areason.
Kertia (47:25):
You know one thing I forgot to ask because I know
what light language is, but somelisteners might not.
So I forgot to ask you realquick what is light language?
How do you use it?
As sacred sounds, but it's mostwidely known as light language.
Jaclyn (47:54):
Essentially what it is.
It's sound frequencies thatcome through your voice,
unfamiliar to the human mind.
The human mind will not be ableto understand it, but there's
familiarity to your soul.
So the frequencies are receivedby your soul to shift, to
activate and to heal energy,while at the same time you may
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be able to understand anoverarching theme of what's
going on.
But because sound is the mostpowerful frequency, the most
powerful way to heal, being ableto channel and receive these
sounds for healing, forawakening, is beyond.
So it's a very weird butbeautiful modality.
Kertia (48:48):
It's beautiful.
I've actually so cared for andI was literally vibrating.
It was amazing.
So definitely an amazingexperience.
If anyone's interested to checkit out, yeah, I'd love for you
to tell us where we can find.
I know you mentioned yourpodcast and I know you have a
(49:09):
website, but do you offer likelanguage to your clients and
like?
Jaclyn (49:17):
tell us the good stuff.
The way I work with one-on-oneclients is I like to do more of
the coaching and tap into theconscious mind first, because
that is what allows people toreally understand what's going
on with them.
And if the client is recurring,then I'm able to do more of the
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healing work, more of the lightlanguage, the sacred sounds and
really tap in that way, becausethat's all subconscious right,
that's all energy.
You don't necessarilyunderstand what's going on, but
for people to really be able tounderstand their own blueprint,
understand themselves and what'shappening with life, and make
transformation on that level,it's more about the conscious
mind first and then doing someof the underlying work from
there.
And that makes perfect sense.
Kertia (50:10):
Yeah, thank you so much, jacqueline.
Jaclyn (50:12):
Thank you.
Kertia (50:13):
This was an amazing conversation.
Jaclyn (50:15):
So beautiful, so beautiful, thank you.
Kertia (50:24):
Thank you so much for sticking with me.
I am looking forward to hearingyour thoughts on this episode,
and thank you so much for allyour love and support.
I can't wait to share with youwhat I have in store for the
podcast moving forward, and ifyou have any input as to what
you would like to hear or whatyou would like to see in the
(50:46):
future, hit me up in the DMs andlet's chat All right until next
time.
Thank you.
Hello again, listeners.
Welcome to the second season ofthe Other Side of Fair.
Now I took a much-needed breakto reassess a few things and the
direction I'd like to shiftthis podcast in Now.
This shift will be very gradual, so stick around and enjoy what
I have in store for you.
I'll share more details aboutthis as I begin to put things
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into place.
I'll share more details aboutthis as I begin to put things
into place.
There is just so much, so muchto be discovered.
Okay, so let's get to the topicof this conversation divine
feminine energy, so that theycan operate from a place of
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centeredness and confidence,while shifting out, of operating
from our core wounds, a lot ofthose icky things that we carry
around inside of us and that alot of us often project onto
others and onto situations thatwe may often encounter in our
(01:08):
daily lives.
So what I particularly likedabout this conversation is the
message of just how empoweringempowering one's spiritual
journey can be.
Now let's get into it.
(01:29):
I'd love to hear more aboutyour journey into coming into
(01:50):
energy healing and you know thespiritual side of life.
How did that begin?
Jaclyn (01:55):
for you.
It's been a long journey, along and slow journey over the
last seven years.
I want to say it started withReiki healing.
I had my first Reiki sessionand it completely changed my
(02:16):
life.
It helped rid my anxiety.
I was able to land a new job.
I left a partner that I wasn'thappy with.
All in the span of two weeks Iwas like what is this?
What is this thing thatcompletely just transformed my
life.
So I went on to get certifiedin Reiki and that was back in
like 2017, I want to say so thatkind of started everything From
there.
I just gave myself permissionjust to continue exploring
(02:39):
spirituality with crystals andmeditation and going really slow
.
And then 2021, I had a massiveawakening.
My light language came online.
I had a Kundalini experiencethat all stemmed from
appendicitis.
It was a wild experience, butthat awakening really kicked
(03:00):
things into gear.
I started taking clients andhelping others heal through
light language and energyhealing.
And then, most recently, I leftmy last relationship to the man
I thought I was going to marryand it was just this inner
knowing that I had that I wasmeant for something else.
(03:20):
So I left and subconsciously, Iset out on a year long
Ascension journey.
That was by far the biggestawakening I had.
I left my career.
I had a download of a blueprintcalled the Worthiness Code's
Ascension Blueprint and I wasinitiated into every aspect of
(03:43):
that blueprint and that's whatI'm teaching others today as
well.
Kertia (03:48):
That sounds amazing.
Taking that process of you knowwhen your awakening started,
with appendicitis like what wasthat for you?
Because have you experiencedanything spiritually prior to
that or was that your first?
And what was that whole processlike that first awakening that
you had?
Jaclyn (04:08):
Yeah, I, like I said, I started really slow, so I was
familiar with Kundalini energy.
I never heard light languagebefore.
I didn't know what that was.
But essentially what happenedwas my stomach started to really
hurt.
So I went to lie down to doself Reiki and my higher self
came through and I just heardthis is a spiritual initiation.
(04:31):
You're going to get really sick, but you're protected.
And I was like, okay, and thenI started channeling light
language and from there I got upand I started purging and I
couldn't touch my body.
The energy was just reallystrong running through me.
And then the next day I went tothe hospital and had to get my
appendix out and in that moment,being in the ER for nine hours,
(04:55):
everyone around me was so sick.
I just sat there and wassending love and light to
everyone and if you know me,that's not my personality, I'm
more impatient.
Wanting to get out of therewould be so nervous of what was
going on, but I was so calm soit really shifted my perspective
of everything.
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At the same time, it reallyscared me.
So I think, because everythinghappened all at once and it
shook me, I had to go getsurgery.
So I was hesitant to dive intoit deeper.
I took a little bit of time off.
I want to say I took about sixmonths off before giving myself
(05:41):
permission to explore that lightlanguage and explore the
Kundalini and and take it fromthere.
Kertia (05:49):
That is tremendous.
How did you begin to tap intoyour skills?
Because then there was theReiki, which you had already
begun, and then you had thatinitiation process and now, like
you had to download with thelight language, you know, like
that process, when you decidedthat you were ready or that you
(06:10):
wanted to open yourself to thatright, how did you learn to tap
into that?
Because I think a lot of us, wecome with spiritual gifts, but
sometimes for some of us, thereis a fear of opening ourselves
to that part of reality and thensometimes there's also the
confusion that comes along withit and not knowing what to do
(06:32):
with all of that information.
So what was that like for you?
Jaclyn (06:35):
Yeah, the way I teach others is everything lives
inside of you, right?
You are an infinite being.
Your soul is infinite.
The gifts that you have areinfinite.
It all depends on your soul'sevolution and journey for this
lifetime and those aspects ofself you're meant to awaken for
(06:55):
this lifetime.
So, obviously, for me, lightlanguage was part of that
journey.
I didn't know about it, but Ireceived it.
And because I received it, Iwas like, okay, this is a reason
, this all happened for a reasonand I asked for the remembrance
.
I was in a sauna and I wassitting there and I said just
help, give me the remembrance ofhow I'm meant to help others
(07:19):
heal.
And a whole light languagetransmission came through, after
it being dormant for six monthssince I first experienced it.
So it's really just goingwithin, asking for the
remembrance and opening yourheart, opening yourself up to
receive.
But you're meant to ask forhelp, to ask your higher self,
(07:40):
to ask your guides, your angels,and again to really tap into
the remembrance from within.
Kertia (07:46):
That is really beautiful and I think you know, like, as
I mentioned before, anotheraspect to that is some of us
we're aware that we have thesegifts, because I know, you know,
like a few people that I'mclose to, and we are aware of
the gifts that they have, butthey there's this fear of
leaning into it, of tapping intoit, because sometimes the
(08:08):
information, whatever it is,that's coming through, it seems
like it's too much all at onceand then they're afraid of, like
you know, there's thatconditioning and programming of
what the culture or the societyhave told you, the meaning of
these things, and then there'sthat level, that element to that
(08:28):
as well.
So, like it's reallyinteresting when you can kind of
lean into that and openyourself to the experience and
then learn how to utilize thesegifts that you came with.
So it's really, reallybeautiful.
Now you're working with womento help women on their own
(08:50):
journeys.
Tell me more about that.
Jaclyn (08:52):
Yeah, it was so funny because I typically help the
masculine.
My one-on-one clients havealways been men and that was
just how it happened, and sowhen I received the download of
the worthiness codes, it wasvery much like you're meant to
help the feminine collective.
And my ego was like, no, we'rehelping the masculine, why are
(09:14):
we helping the feminine?
And so my ego was not okay withit, which is funny.
And I'm like, of course I'mmeant to help the feminine.
I'm such a mirror for, and I'mlike, of course I'm meant to
help the feminine, I'm such amirror for women, just given
everything that I recently wentthrough.
So it's a beautiful, beautifulblueprint and essentially what
it is.
(09:34):
It's a seven-step journey ofascension, and people describe
ascension as awakening your soulto live within.
The 5D is how most of thespiritual community will explain
it.
The way I like to explainascension is as an inward
journey to expand your soul, totap into your divine worthiness,
(09:58):
because once you're inalignment to your self-worth,
that's when everything opens upfor you, to your self-worth.
That's when everything opens upfor you when you're back into
wholeness, when you live withinyour confidence, when you know
you're worthy of being exactlywho you are living life exactly
(10:18):
how you want to live life you'reable to receive from that place
.
So it's a beautiful inwardjourney to help women, just
reclaim their self-worth.
Kertia (10:24):
I love that.
Jaclyn (10:24):
I love that you mentioned the worthiness codes.
Kertia (10:27):
Can you take me through how you use that to actually
assist women on that journey toself-worthiness and their own
inner ascension?
Jaclyn (10:41):
Yeah, like you said, the process can be overwhelming for
people, especially if they havethat call within them that
they're meant to awakensomething, whether that's a
spiritual gift or they're meantfor more in life.
It can be very scary becauseanytime we head into the unknown
it's scary for humans and I cantalk about it from personal
(11:03):
experience.
When I left my relationship, Ishortly after left my career and
I was completely in this periodof the unknown and having now
understanding what the blueprintis.
It's really giving people astep-by-step process of okay,
instead of becoming sooverwhelmed with just diving
right in, not having support,not knowing where to turn and
(11:26):
just feeling lost.
Essentially, it's guidingpeople through the process of
letting go, of healing, ofexpansion, of rebirth, while
also holding key aspects of selfalong the way that you're able
to tap into and activate atcertain points.
Again, to keep things morestreamlined, even though the
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process is quantum right, thisis not a linear process when
you're moving into awakening,when you're healing, but it's
taking that quantum process andputting it in a linear order.
Kertia (11:59):
That sounds really amazing.
Thank you, I love that.
Thank you, you mentioned that.
Thank you, you know.
You mentioned, you know, tworelationships that you had and
you walking away from thoserelationships, specifically the
most recent one where you feltlike or where you had the
knowing right that this was notthe path you were meant to take.
(12:22):
How did you because leaving anyrelationship behind is really
difficult, right, how did younavigate that?
Jaclyn (12:33):
Yeah, it was.
That was the hardest thing I'veever done in my life Because,
like I said, it was the person Ithought I was going to marry.
He just bought us a new house,so it was this sense of security
.
So, for women, obviouslyfeeling safe is our number one
priority.
We need in life to be able toespecially live in our feminine
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energy.
We have to feel safe enough toreally allow ourselves to do
that.
So I had the inner knowing for Imean, it was a four-year
relationship.
I probably had the innerknowing for three years and,
like most women, we stay inrelationships much longer than
we should because we have thatinner knowing, we have that
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intuition.
But the way that society hasprogrammed us, we want to be the
savior right.
We want to save the otherperson, we want to put the other
person before ourselves.
We have this clear visionwithin our minds of what our
life can look like if the personchanged and we hold on to that
right.
(13:37):
So it got to a point where Ijust kept seeing things right in
front of me that I didn't like,that weren't in alignment, and
I finally there was this momentthat we had where I felt really
called to ask him a question,and I and I asked him if we were
still on track for gettingengaged next year, and he looked
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at me and he couldn't answerthe question.
He could not answer thequestion.
In that moment I was like, wow,okay, this is exactly what I
needed to hear.
So that was a gift from theuniverse, as I took it, to allow
me to know that, okay, now it'stime to take the step that I've
always known was meant to take.
So once that happened, it was aperiod of riding the wave, of
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feeling the fear, of questioningmyself, but I held my center,
knowing that that intuitivereason to leave is there for a
reason and life is going to beso beautiful once I get through
this.
And that's exactly whathappened.
So you just have you have totrust yourself.
Kertia (14:47):
Yeah, that is so true.
I like that you pointed it outthat you know, like, when you
ask that question and theresponse that you did or didn't
get in the moment was your cueto make that choice.
And I think a lot of us, we, wehave so many cues all the time,
so many signs all the time, somany.
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You know there are so manythings that um comes into or
comes to our attention and wedecide to look the other way or
make an excuse for it or deny itand pretend not to see it, and
that is something that we dooften, you know, especially as
women, because, as you said, alot of us are programmed to, you
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know, like, be of service tosomeone else, whoever that
person may be right, whetherit's for a partner, or to, you
know, like, the other people inour lives or family.
We are so programmed to be ofservice to others and less of
service to our own selves andmeeting our own wants and needs
(15:55):
and desires, right.
So, yeah, like you knowing forthree years, like I can think of
easily two relationships thatI've personally had where the
signs were there, girl, theywere there, yeah and I
completely ignored them like Idid and they ended badly.
So so, yeah, and you know, Iwas just like.
(16:21):
You know, in hindsight it'sjust like I knew, I knew but I
wasn't paying attention and Imade excuses and I denied the
things that I saw.
So, yeah, intuition is a hugepart of it.
And then another part of it islike when you're also operating
from your wounds, because Irecognize within myself that I
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was operating from a place of myown core wounds, from trauma
that I've experienced inchildhood, right, and so like.
A lot of this stuff wasmirrored in the relationships
that I also got into and also inmy decision making process when
it came to the people that Ichose as partners.
(17:02):
So let's talk about that for abit.
And then you know, like how canwe shift from operating from
our core roots to operating fromthat space of knowing?
Yeah, it's so beautiful whenyou go through a breakup.
Jaclyn (17:20):
It's so beautiful when you go through a breakup, though
it's hard, though it's scary,when you're able to take a step
away from it and reflect on it.
That's when you become aware ofyour wounding, of the patterns
right.
And something I saw when I leftthat relationship was I was
operating from a place of suchdeep codependency and I was
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attracting narcissists, and thatruns deep within my own lineage
, my paternal lineage.
It runs deep within my ownstory of the amount of men that
I attract that hold thosenarcissistic tendencies, and I
never realized it until I gavemyself the space to actually
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reflect and go within.
So, first and foremost, alwaysgive yourself grace, no matter
if you stay in a relationshiplonger than you do or if you're
dating someone who's reflectinga pattern and you're operating
from your wounding.
Give yourself grace becauseyou're learning.
Like I said, your soul isinfinite.
There are so many layers to you.
So as you awaken, you'relearning.
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Like I said, your soul isinfinite.
There are so many layers to you.
So as you awaken, you'relearning yourself.
So it's important to be gentleto yourself and not be hard on
yourself within the process.
But when you understand yourwounding, you're essentially
sitting with yourself and you'repeeling back layers.
I love to play the why game.
When it comes to dissectingyour trauma, dissecting your
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patterns, your shadows, yourwounding, when you become aware
of something, of a certainaspect of energy and you want to
dive into it, play the why game, ask why is this showing up,
why is this here?
And when we were younger, whenwe were kids I don't know if you
ever played the game with yourparents you would just say why
after everything, and they wouldget so mad and crazed.
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It's literally doing the samething with the energy.
It's looking at it anddissecting the layers and trying
to understand things a littlebit deeper and eventually you'll
get to the core.
You'll get to the core of thatwound and why it's there, which
will help you break through it.
Kertia (19:30):
Yeah, that's so true.
I think I spoke about a versionof the Y game, I think, at the
first season of the podcast.
I love it.
Yeah, you continuously ask thatquestion until you can get to
the core of a problem, and theyuse this for other things too.
(19:51):
You can use this in in theseterms, or it is something that
they also use in businesspractices.
So it's really interesting thatyou brought that up, because
that is something that I didaddress on the first season and,
you know, like in a way forpeople to kind of like use that
to get to the core of somethingthat they're actually
experiencing, to kind of likeunravel that experience.
(20:15):
So, yeah, it's a it's a yeah, Ilove that.
Jaclyn (20:19):
it's a beautiful practice.
And look, this is more tounderstand on a conscious level.
We're not always meant tounderstand everything, so
sometimes you may not understandand it may be better to just
really sit and meditate andallow yourself to just feel what
comes up and move through itthat way, or journal, and just
(20:40):
allow yourself to free flowthrough your shadows, through
your wounding, to see what comesup.
So, again, you have to explore.
It's exploration withinyourself to, of course, peel
back the layers, but understandwhat works for you, because it's
not a one-size-fits-all type ofthing.
At the end of the day, yeah,yeah, that is true.
Kertia (21:02):
What does your own practice look like currently?
Because you've done the Reiki,you know, like you spoke about
meditation earlier.
Is there anything else that youinclude in your current
practice that you use to likekeep you centered?
Jaclyn (21:24):
myself every single day and it looks different every day
.
But the one thing I always dois I have an altar, and I just
did it before getting on thispodcast.
I'll light an incense, go to myaltar, express gratitude to my
ancestors, as well as just tomyself and to my life, and set
intentions for the day ahead.
That practice usually expandswhere I'll sit with cacao in the
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morning or at some point duringthe day and drop in that way,
and there's always some sort ofchanneling involved.
Like I said, my biggest modalityis my light language, so my
throat is blocked this morning,which is interesting, and I'll
have to sit with that after tosee why is this energy coming up
(22:06):
.
But this is something I'veactually been working through a
lot, but sitting and channelinglight language, but also just
any emotions that come through.
I always like to talk about itout loud, so I'm a big channeler
.
I don't always sit inmeditation silently.
I like to use my voice toreally drop in and center myself
(22:31):
.
So it looks different every day, but that's pretty much the
gist, that's so cool.
Kertia (22:37):
That is so cool.
What would you say?
You know on your path, right,because we all have wounds.
We, you know your path, right,because we all have wounds.
We, you know, like, we've allexperienced some type of trauma,
whether we're aware of it ornot, right, yeah, we're human.
So what would you say were someof the things that came up for
you, um, that were mostchallenging for you to deal with
(23:00):
, to, um, to kind of face or tokind of work through on your
journey, because you know, likeI know, when you're on this kind
of journey, like all yourissues and your wounds, they
don't suddenly go away, theydon't suddenly disappear.
The same way, how you're kindof helping people to work
(23:20):
through their own wounds and youknow to kind of like come into
their own power, it's the sameway you kind of have to work on
yourself and work on your ownwounds and go through your own
healing process and face a lotof the things that are difficult
to face.
So what were some of thosethings that came up for you that
were most challenging in theprocess of your awakening?
Jaclyn (23:45):
Yeah, the first thing that comes to mind was anytime I
experienced an ego death.
Ego deaths are incredibly hardto work through and essentially,
what an ego death is is anaspect of your ego, or you can
look at it as like a chunk ofyour ego is dying off in order
for your authenticity to comethrough, for your soul to expand
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and be the leader over your ego, or over that aspect of ego
that has been leading you.
Ego deaths are really hardbecause the ego wants to hang on
for dear life and it usuallyhangs on through some sort of
fear to try to get you to stopfrom allowing it to die off.
So those have been reallychallenging to navigate, which
(24:29):
leads me into the next thought,which is fear.
Anytime that fear has come up,that energy has been so deep and
it's usually an energy thatgoes past.
Myself, I've moved through fearheld in other lifetimes that I
had to move through,specifically tied to the witch
wound.
That was really difficult.
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Ancestral trauma is reallydifficult to work through as
well, again, because the layersof the energy, the layers of the
trauma and the wounding runreally deep and you have to feel
all of that to get to the otherside of it.
So when you're in the energy,that's super dense, that's super
deep and you allow yourself tofeel you're literally feeling
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all the things.
And that can be terrifying whenyou don't know what's going on,
and it can be really scary toallow yourself to go to the
depths of your soul like that.
So for me, that's how I movethrough energy.
I, I feel everything and I andI it's like I'm reliving it.
In a way, my body's reliving it.
(25:36):
Again, not everyone's the same,um, so it just depends, but
yeah, yeah, and it's yeah, it'svery deep, it's very deep.
Kertia (25:47):
It's very challenging, to say the least, but you
mentioned just now somethingabout your past lives.
Was this a part of like a pastlife regression, or how did that
show up for?
Jaclyn (26:03):
you.
This was like a normal Tuesday.
This was when I was like in thedepths of the healing portion
of my ascension journey.
So I want to say this was likesometime last November I sat in
a medicine ceremony, a mushroomceremony in October, which
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really just opened up thefloodgates to my gifts and my
ability to feel so this.
I just knew I had to sit withmyself one day.
I don't remember exactly whattriggered it, because usually
something outside of me willtrigger me to sit and go within,
but I sat with myself and I waslike, okay, why am I sitting
(26:49):
here?
And I was just led into a pastlife and I was calling myself by
a different name and that's howI knew I was in a past life.
And I was brought through thetrauma from that past life and
how it's affecting me right nowand why I needed to break
through it.
So that was, it was wild and itwas.
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It was a difficult one.
Kertia (27:12):
Yeah, it must have been.
I think I've heard that we'renot meant to remember all of our
past lives as core, because itwould just be too much.
And looking back on some of itis definitely helpful.
It gives you so muchinformation about certain things
that are currently manifestingin your own life at the moment
(27:33):
and how you can kind of likeclear that or move through that
and resolve that issue.
And then there are others thatare just not helpful.
So I've heard that, yeah, we candefinitely use our past lives,
that information, to inform usabout our current circumstances,
but then it is not somethingwhereby, like, you should have
(27:57):
access to all of it, becausethen there'll be way too much
information and not all of thatinformation is helpful in your
current incarnation at themoment.
So, like that was reallyinteresting, like you being able
to go through that process anduse your past life to give you
the information needed for thiscurrent moment and how that
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could have assisted you.
Like also do that with others,or is that something that you've
just experienced for yourselfon your own, with the assistance
of someone else?
Jaclyn (28:32):
Yeah, that was just something I experienced on
myself and I didn't haveassistance with someone else.
It was just me sitting withmyself in that moment, which, of
course, made it harder becauseI didn't have someone to hold
space for me.
I was just like what is goingon?
But I completely agree with youin terms of past lives and
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we're not meant to access all ofthem, because the way I look at
past lives it's not linear.
Right, time isn't linear, butthat's how we understand time as
humans, as also how we look atpast lives as humans.
We used to be this person andnow we're this person, when, at
least the way I like to look atit is everything is in the
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quantum, everything is happeningsimultaneously, all at once.
So these lifetimes are stillgoing on, they're still
happening.
So all you're doing is you'reshifting your energy, you're
pulling your energy into anotherfrequency that you're meant to
experience for some reason and,like I said at the beginning of
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the episode, you have specificaspects of self, you have
specific gifts that you're meantto tap into within this
lifetime for reasons.
The same goes with trauma, withwounding.
You have certain aspects oftrauma and your wounding that
you're meant to clear and you'remeant to understand.
So it just depends on whereyou're at, and I don't believe
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in trying to force anything.
So if you're feeling called toexperience past life, regression
or tap into a past life andit's not coming from your ego,
there's like that deep call todo it, it's probably for a
reason, and I would 100% inviteyou to do it.
But I mean, if I were able todo it on my own and I didn't
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even ask for it, you canprobably do it on your own too.
Just sit and ask for theremembrance, set the attention
and see what happens, becauseyou'll be surprised.
The more you crack yourselfopen, the more you tap into your
power, and these things aren'twildly uncommon Like.
I'm sure it sounds a little bitcrazy if you're new to this
journey, but if I can do it,others can do it too.
Kertia (30:46):
Yeah, that is so true.
How would you say because, justbecause we're on a topic, there
are certain gifts that we cancarry over from our past lives
or acts to be activated in thislifetime?
How do you go about doing that?
Jaclyn (31:07):
Yeah, Again, it goes into the remembrance and just
asking for the remembrance ofsomething.
At the same time you don't wantto overwhelm yourself, right?
You don't want to sit there andbe like, oh, help me remember
energy, healing and lightlanguage and my clairaudience
and my clairvoyance, like all ofthose things.
I just really believe thatthings will present themselves
(31:28):
to you if you're meant to tapinto it deeper and so become
aware of the things that youfeel called to become aware of
what's happening within yourouter reality.
If you're in meditation and youstart hearing a ringing in your
ear, that might be clearaudience, which is clear hearing
trying to come through.
So take time to develop thatgift right, Dive into that gift
(31:54):
and hone in on that gift whileasking for help doing research
within the human body, ofdissecting information, to just
open up that channel and focusyour awareness there.
And then, if you are open toplant medicine, like I did, I
sat with psilocybin and that isa teacher that really activates
(32:16):
the gifts that you hold.
And, like I said, I always hada clear knowing.
I didn't know my clairsentience, my clear feeling was a gift,
but it really activated andopened that gift for me.
So there are multiple ways thatyou can tap into it.
I'm a big component of plantmedicine so it just depends on
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you know what you feel called todoing.
Kertia (32:40):
That's amazing.
Do you want to say more?
Do you want to speak more?
Jaclyn (32:43):
sat with any other plant medicine yet besides psilocybin
(33:06):
, because I don't believe insitting with anything from the
point of the ego.
I'm sure the listeners arefamiliar with ayahuasca.
So many people are going to thejungle and doing ayahuasca and
I think that's beautiful, aslong as you're doing it from a
place of like.
I know I'm meant to do this, mysoul is calling me here and you
you're doing it from a place oflike.
I know I'm meant to do this, mysoul is calling me here and
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you're not doing it from a placeof everyone else is doing it,
so I want to do it and I'm goingto go and sit with plant
medicine, right.
So that's first and foremost.
The way my journey started waswith microdosing.
I started microdosingpsilocybin and this was right
before I had my first awakeningwith the Kundalini and the light
language and the appendicitis.
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I was actually taking Adderallfor a while and I had a complete
nervous breakdown on theAdderall and I said, okay, I
know I need to get off of this.
I started working with someoneand she said let's start
microdosing and she taught mehow to do it and that completely
rewired my nervous system and Ithink that's why a lot of gifts
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were able to come through.
I had the space within my body,I was calm within my body to
allow that to happen.
So if you're someone and againI'm not a doctor at all but if
you are someone who suffers fromoverthinking or anxiety or
depression, microdosing is abeautiful tool, a beautiful
medicine to help with that, andit's such a small dose that
you're not going to have a wildjourney.
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When you sit with the medicinein a larger capacity, it's
literally like getting 10 yearsof therapy within six hours or
eight hours, years of therapywithin six hours or eight hours
and you move through a lot.
So it's a beautiful, beautifulway to sit with a medicine, have
a space holder there to holdspace for you and guide you
(34:56):
through the journey and reallymove through the things that you
didn't know you had to movethrough.
But the medicine does that.
The medicine speaks to yourbody, speaks to you to move
through.
But the medicine does that.
The medicine speaks to yourbody, speaks to you to move
through what is present in yourfield, to get you to the place
that you're meant to get to.
So that's my take on it, and itgoes so much deeper.
Like I said, it helps awakengifts and it's just a beautiful
(35:20):
energy.
Kertia (35:22):
You mentioned previously your most recent awakening.
How was that for you?
How was that different from thefirst one?
Jaclyn (35:32):
This last one.
Well, the first one was veryabrupt.
Right, it was the lightlanguage, the kundalini.
It was an initiation and Iended up in the hospital.
So it was very like jolting itwas an initiation and I ended up
in the hospital, so it was verylike jolting.
This one was, of course, aninitiation into itself, but it
required a lot from me.
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Like I said, I had to shed alot of things.
I had to shed my relationship,I had to shed my career and I
was brought into healing thedepths of my being to a level
that I've never experiencedbefore.
So there were points of thejourney that were very daunting,
but on the other side of it, itwas the most beautiful thing
(36:16):
I've ever experienced because itreally changed the person that
I sit here as now.
I am a person that livesthrough the frequency of
unconditional love.
I am someone who has ascended,has awakened, and understands
myself on a very different level, understands how life works on
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a very different level, and I'mjust living in a much happier,
grounded, open state of being soaligned to my worthiness, and I
wouldn't change it for anything.
Truly, it was the biggest giftthat I've ever been given, and,
though it was difficult and,though it completely changed my
life, it changed my life in themost positive way.
Kertia (37:04):
That's amazing.
A part of this whole ascensionprocess and being able to
embrace it is a lot of the feararound that and what comes with
that.
What advice do you have forpeople who recognize that they
have these gifts?
Gifts, um, we all have it tosome extent.
(37:31):
We all came with differentgifts.
It's just some of us choose notto use it and some of us are
just completely aware that weeven have them.
Right, but for the people whowould like to delve into this
version of reality, what wouldyou have to say about the fear
around it?
That can be helpful or, I don'tknow, supportive in some way.
Jaclyn (37:55):
Yeah, the fear is a very normal part.
The fear is your ego.
Your ego is meant to keep youcomfortable, to keep you safe.
So your ego is not your enemy.
You're meant to integrate yourego.
So if fear is coming up for you,allow yourself to sit with the
fear, allow the fear to speak toyou, but at the same time, give
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that fear unconditional loveand speak to your ego.
Speak to that fear as if it's alittle child, letting the fear
know that she or he is safe toexplore these new parts of their
being, that they're safe toexpand and change their life in
the way that they're feelingcalled to.
(38:39):
So, in order to really movethrough the fear that will arise
from you saying yes to going onan ascension journey, an
awakening journey, exploringyour gifts.
However you want to look at it,it comes down to unconditional
love, because you don't want tojust push the fear away, because
the fear is going to get louder.
You want to allow yourself tolook at the fear, see what's
(39:01):
coming up for you, becausethat's probably something you're
going to have to work throughat some point in your journey.
But be very gentle to your fear, to your ego, and send it
unconditional love and watch howthe ego will get quieter and
become more integrated into yourbeing as you take that step
forth to really explore theseparts of you.
Kertia (39:24):
That was lovely.
Speaking to your fear like achild and I think a lot of us we
don't kind of like realize howmuch we need that right, that
love, to give ourselves thatlove and that patience yeah,
Like speaking to your fear likea child.
(39:46):
That's the first time I'veheard someone say that actually,
and I think that is so helpful.
That is so helpful and it's acomplete different.
It gives you a completedifferent perception of your it,
because you can't anyways, evenif you try.
(40:12):
But you can learn how to use itand you can learn to see it
differently.
Jaclyn (40:18):
Yeah, just to add to that too.
It's energy, everything isenergy.
So your fear is energy.
So the more you look at thatfear and give into that fear and
are quote unquote me to thatfear or let the fear affect you,
that energy is growing.
That's how entities happen inthe first place, right?
(40:39):
You're giving into the energyso it grows and grows and
becomes a bigger part of you andallows it to take over your
being, and that's how younavigate your life.
So when you're giving itunconditional love and you're
giving it kindness and you'regentle with it and you're
treating it like a child, that'syour light coming into that
energy.
You're integrating your lightinto the quote unquote darkness,
(41:01):
into the fear, into the shadow,and now that's when it's
integrated.
So now it's not controllingyour life, but now it's just a
part of you and it will arisewhen it's trying to teach you
something, but it's no longergoing to control your life.
Instead, the higher aspects ofyourself will be the ones that
are navigating your life for you.
Kertia (41:20):
Absolutely, Absolutely.
I love that.
You know you helping the divinefeminine.
Let's talk about that some more.
You know you helping the divinefeminine.
Let's talk about that some more.
You know what is the divinefeminine, what are qualities of
the divine feminine and how canwe embrace that more.
Jaclyn (41:39):
Yeah, so the way I look at the divine feminine is
essentially just being in yourhealthy feminine right.
It's being the queen energy,the goddess energy.
It's being a woman who isdivinely aligned to their
authenticity, to their truth.
No matter, look, it doesn'tnecessarily have to be a gender
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role.
It doesn't have to be you know.
You have to be a woman.
If you're a man who identifiesmore as feminine, then you can
consider yourself divinefeminine.
I'm never going to be someoneto tell you that's wrong or
that's right, but, speaking justspecifically to women, it's
really allowing you to be backinto wholeness, back into your
(42:25):
center, because being worthy,being confident, being a being
of love, these are all traitsthat are feminine right.
Being feminine is soft innature.
Being feminine is the abilityto receive, while, at the same
time, being feminine is someonewho's not afraid to feel, to
feel all their feelings, toexplore their anger, to explore
(42:49):
their shadows, and it's bringingit all into wholeness with
oneself and living from thatplace.
Kertia (42:56):
Yeah, and I like that you pointed out that, both men
and women, we have the divinemasculine and the divine
feminine, and it's for us tohave, I guess, a balance between
those two energies and be ableto facilitate not just equality
of both but operating from bothof them equally, which I think
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is something that a lot of usstruggle with, because on the
side with males, I know it'sbecoming more of a conversation
today where males are speakingof their own inner divine
feminine qualities as well.
I know, you know we talk aboutit on the side with, you know,
(43:42):
women primarily, but then thereis that side with the men as
well.
We all have that yin and yangenergy within us, so I like that
you also mentioned that as well.
As it related to the males.
What do they identify more withthat energy or not?
Jaclyn (44:01):
Yeah, because at the end of the day, it's all energy.
I think it's just perspectiveand how you look at it, and
people will speak differently totheir perspective of the
feminine and masculine energy.
I agree with you that of course, we have both within us and
we're meant to bring it intounion within ourselves and
(44:22):
operate from a place of balance,while at the same time, you'll
have specific seasons of lifewhere you're more in your
feminine and you're more livingfrom that.
Sometimes, especially intoday's society, as
entrepreneurs and women inbusiness, we lean more into the
masculine, but it's being ableto have a dance, a fluid dance,
between the both, so they'realways in balance.
(44:45):
What I will say from my personalexperience?
I find that, at least formyself but I feel like I
experienced it myself becausethis is how others are supposed
to experience it too that womenare fully in their power when
they're in their divine feminineand they have the counterpart
(45:08):
of a masculine partner who'sfully in his divine masculine
and to operate from those tworoles.
That is where you will reallybe able to tap into your truest
power, while, of course, beingable to have that dance within
yourself If your partner, who'sa man, needs to be more in his
(45:30):
feminine, then you can be morein your masculine right.
It's a balance, but I find thatthat is the most powerful
energy to be in as women is toreally allow ourselves to
experience our feminine fully,because that's when you'll be
able to tap into your gifts andall of that amazing stuff.
Kertia (45:49):
Absolutely.
I love your explanation.
That was a really goodexplanation, thank you.
Is there anything else youwould like to share with us
about your work that you do withwomen, or just about the
journey in general?
Jaclyn (46:05):
Yeah, I also host a podcast.
It's called the WorthinessCodes Podcast.
It's a self-hosted podcast andI share episodes for guided
meditations and light languagetransmission.
So for listeners who neverexperienced light language
before, it's a beautiful way toexperience and receive the
energy.
I also work with clientsone-on-one as a spiritual life
(46:29):
coach, really going in to helpthem see life from a wider lens,
to really understand how tobest navigate themselves and
life.
And I'm also working on theonline course of the Worthiness
Codes Blueprint to share withthe Feminine Collective.
So that should be done,hopefully by the end of the year
.
I'm really excited about that.
(46:52):
And yeah, I mean, if you'reinterested in this journey of
ascension, in this journey ofawakening, it's for a very
specific reason the call.
Once you have it, it's nevergoing to go away.
It's only going to get louder.
So if you feel the call toawaken, allow yourself to dive
(47:13):
into it.
You don't have to dive inheadfirst and leave everything
behind.
You can go into it slowly andwhat feels good for you, but
just know that it's there for areason.
Kertia (47:25):
You know one thing I forgot to ask because I know
what light language is, but somelisteners might not.
So I forgot to ask you realquick what is light language?
How do you use it?
As sacred sounds, but it's mostwidely known as light language.
Jaclyn (47:54):
Essentially what it is.
It's sound frequencies thatcome through your voice,
unfamiliar to the human mind.
The human mind will not be ableto understand it, but there's
familiarity to your soul.
So the frequencies are receivedby your soul to shift, to
activate and to heal energy,while at the same time you may
(48:14):
be able to understand anoverarching theme of what's
going on.
But because sound is the mostpowerful frequency, the most
powerful way to heal, being ableto channel and receive these
sounds for healing, forawakening, is beyond.
So it's a very weird butbeautiful modality.
Kertia (48:48):
It's beautiful.
I've actually so cared for andI was literally vibrating.
It was amazing.
So definitely an amazingexperience.
If anyone's interested to checkit out, yeah, I'd love for you
to tell us where we can find.
I know you mentioned yourpodcast and I know you have a
(49:09):
website, but do you offer likelanguage to your clients and
like?
Jaclyn (49:17):
tell us the good stuff.
The way I work with one-on-oneclients is I like to do more of
the coaching and tap into theconscious mind first, because
that is what allows people toreally understand what's going
on with them.
And if the client is recurring,then I'm able to do more of the
(49:50):
healing work, more of the lightlanguage, the sacred sounds and
really tap in that way, becausethat's all subconscious right,
that's all energy.
You don't necessarilyunderstand what's going on, but
for people to really be able tounderstand their own blueprint,
understand themselves and what'shappening with life, and make
transformation on that level,it's more about the conscious
mind first and then doing someof the underlying work from
there.
And that makes perfect sense.
Kertia (50:10):
Yeah, thank you so much, jacqueline.
Jaclyn (50:12):
Thank you.
Kertia (50:13):
This was an amazing conversation.
Jaclyn (50:15):
So beautiful, so beautiful, thank you.
Kertia (50:24):
Thank you so much for sticking with me.
I am looking forward to hearingyour thoughts on this episode,
and thank you so much for allyour love and support.
I can't wait to share with youwhat I have in store for the
podcast moving forward, and ifyou have any input as to what
you would like to hear or whatyou would like to see in the
(50:46):
future, hit me up in the DMs andlet's chat All right until next
time.
Thank you.
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