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What happens when a frosty morning turns your routine into a comedy of errors? Picture a frozen truck door, broken handles, and a slippery fall that covers one brave soul in hot beverages. Amidst laughter and chaos, discover how teamwork and perseverance turn a potential disaster into a memorable adventure, proving that a shared chuckle can make even the iciest of situations a bit warmer. 

In a world where regulations can often seem as unpredictable as winter weather, we break down the nitty-gritty of random drug testing policies in the trucking industry. Unmasking the complexities behind Department of Transportation mandates, we discuss the financial pressures on drivers, particularly owner-operators. Learn how companies like FedEx and Panther ease these burdens and the intriguing e-commerce loopholes allowing companies like Teemu and Shein to bypass certain regulations, sparking conversations about product safety and the economy.

As we journey through the highways, rest areas, and welcome centers, a rich tapestry of personal stories and observations unfolds. From the inclusive upgrades in Ohio to Louisiana’s rest area closures, we reflect on how these changes impact our travels. Nostalgic tales of summer camps and park adventures bring a touch of warmth, while discussions about regional quirks and community connections offer a snapshot of the evolving landscape. Join us as we wrap up by inviting you to connect with Hyfield Trucking and share your own stories, because the road is always more enjoyable when traveled together.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Okay, so give us a 30-second version.
Your wonderful trip to Medina.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
I get to the yard.

Speaker 1 (00:06):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
The truck's frozen shut Will not open.

Speaker 1 (00:09):
What does that mean?

Speaker 2 (00:10):
Like you can't get the door open Will not open at
all the side box door.
It's frozen shut.
I ended up breaking the handlebecause I pulled on it so hard.

Speaker 1 (00:21):
Did you add the Trello?
No?

Speaker 3 (00:23):
I remembered it, but I forgot to add the Trello.

Speaker 1 (00:27):
Well, let's hope nobody's killing you.

Speaker 3 (00:28):
I have those locks, the latches and locks.
I can take care of it.

Speaker 1 (00:30):
Oh okay, I was going to say let's hope no one from
Friday hears that.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
Okay, go ahead.
Fast forward a few hoursFinally.

Speaker 4 (00:36):
A few hours.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
Well, I called you first at 520.
You called me at 5.30,.
Yeah, and so finally the truckis.
Vince comes down, he gets thetruck open for me.
What time is this?
Another set of keys 7.30-ishyeah.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
A few hours, a couple hours.

Speaker 3 (00:55):
He texted me at 6.30.
Oh, okay, so an hour.
And I saw that and I respondedback and we were going back and
forth and I told him that I'dget it taken care of.
And I told him that we would,I'd get it taken care of and I
was going to take the truck.
Since he was already there.
I thought he was there a lotlonger.
And I got there and as I'mdriving I'm thinking, nope, I
can't, because I got stuff to dowith mail.
We got to get rescue trucks.
So I called Jerry back and Isaid sorry, but I can't take it.
Would you?

(01:16):
I need you to come back and takethe truck but at that point I
had the spare keys in the greenvan yeah so I was able to open
the door for him and get thekeys, get the truck started,
hopefully get it warmed up alittle bit Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:29):
So I was back home at this point, so all I had to do
was just slip on my shoes, grabmy stuff so I grabbed another
cup of coffee, my tea, my bookbag slip my shoes on, go out the
door, drive all the way backover there.
I'm rushing to the truckbecause he's like yeah, it's
already running, it's alreadywarming up, You're ready to go.
And yeah, as I walk, towardsthe truck.

Speaker 4 (01:54):
I step on ice and both feet go out and I land on
my back.

Speaker 2 (01:56):
Coffee and tea go Literally.
I look up and coffee and tea israining down on me.

Speaker 1 (02:01):
Which probably felt good being on hold it's raining
no.

Speaker 3 (02:04):
By the time we got to .
Now we're in three seasons.

Speaker 1 (02:06):
Yeah, it was ice.
It came down to snow, came downto snow.

Speaker 2 (02:10):
So then all I could think about was Well, the
truck's gotta get there.
I'm already late, becausenormally I'm showing up At 8 am
and here it is Like 7.30 and I'mjust getting on the road, and
so I just take off to my DanaMadonna with coffee and tea all
over me.

Speaker 1 (02:25):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
But we got it done.

Speaker 1 (02:28):
Well, if you don't know people back at home, they
do not plow our yard.
It's one of the things that'svery frustrating and but but
they don't.
But it's usually, it's not toobad.

Speaker 3 (02:44):
This is ice at that point, so we've driven on so
much.

Speaker 1 (02:45):
Most years.
It's not that bad.
It's just ice at that pointBecause we've driven on it so
much Most years it's not thatbad.

Speaker 4 (02:48):
We don't get this weather like this.

Speaker 1 (02:49):
This has been a very abnormal winter that we've had
so far, and so right now it isliterally a giant sheet of ice.
I was actually in the Jeeptoday and I went to make a big
circle to come pick you up andit got a little squirrely and
we're going slow, so it caughttraction.
We're good again.
But there's a giant skatingrink, like if you are in

(03:11):
Columbus and have ice skates onyou.
Yeah, stop by the yard, it's anoption, and it's thick.

Speaker 4 (03:17):
It ain't like a little sheet of ice.

Speaker 3 (03:19):
It is.

Speaker 1 (03:20):
It's two or three inches of ice.

Speaker 3 (03:22):
No, it's not super smooth, it's not.
Come out and have fun, yeah.

Speaker 4 (03:26):
Toe pick, toe pick.

Speaker 3 (03:27):
Yeah, I'll get the video camera set up and I can
have fun.

Speaker 1 (03:33):
Well, it's supposed to warm up.

Speaker 6 (03:33):
There's no insurance for you if you get hurt here in
the next five to seven days.
Next Wednesday, I told Don itdid not feel good.

Speaker 2 (03:39):
I'm still hurting today.
However, had there been acamera rolling, everybody would
be laughing at this point,because it was like a cartoon
both feet at the same time.

Speaker 6 (03:49):
And the liquid.

Speaker 1 (03:50):
Yeah, oh man.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
I'm sorry, Jerry.

Speaker 1 (03:52):
I'm sorry, Jerry, I did that as a kid I used to wear
cowboy boots to church.
I did.
I was in middle school, so waytoo old for this.
But I was running around thechurch chasing one of my friends
and they had that really niceindustrial linoleum floor and
they had it polished nice andpretty because it's a church and

(04:14):
I just stepped wrong and bothfeet flew up.
I flew up in the air.
I tell you, I flew up threefeet in the air Like higher than
I was.
I was nine foot in the air andI slammed down on my and it took
the breath out of me.
It was and I know like, oh,that's such a.
And then it hit my head too, myhead was killing me.

Speaker 4 (04:35):
The rest of the day too, Did you lay there a hot
moment.

Speaker 2 (04:37):
Oh, I laid there a hot moment, yeah.

Speaker 6 (04:40):
That's also not safe.
That's when you do that bodyevaluation of like.
The 360 point check, yeah, likewhat's going to move and what's
not going to move when I startgetting myself back.

Speaker 1 (04:50):
I mean you had to be thinking like am I about to call
Vince to come pick me up?

Speaker 4 (04:54):
Did you at least have your phone still on your person
.

Speaker 2 (04:56):
It was in my pocket.

Speaker 4 (04:58):
That's good, not your back pocket.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
I actually have phone detection turned off.

Speaker 6 (05:02):
Not anymore, boy, there's that.

Speaker 1 (05:10):
Go figure, it's that thing where you realize, oh, I'm
getting old, you have to turnfall detection on.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
I tell my mom all the time make sure you keep that on
.
I need to do it.

Speaker 4 (05:20):
I'm glad you're okay.
I'm glad you're okay, minus acouple bumps and bruises.

Speaker 1 (05:24):
Yeah, I'm sorry you're okay.
I'm glad you're okay.
I mean minus a couple bumps andbruises.

Speaker 4 (05:28):
Yeah, I'm sorry you're sore.
I hate that for you.

Speaker 1 (05:33):
Hey, everybody, Welcome to the Outer Belt
Podcast.
I am Patrick and you all are myfriends.

Speaker 6 (05:40):
Chili Buttermilk Eric Zucchini bread and Jerry, and
I'm Patrick Eric Zucchini breadand Jerry, and I'm.

Speaker 1 (05:46):
Patrick Again for the second time.

Speaker 4 (05:50):
In case you forgot already.
In case you forgot it's a biggroup.
I thought we were doing likering around the roses in a
chorus.

Speaker 1 (05:56):
We might have pocket full of hoses.
What is it called In like apocket full of hoses?
Or row, row, row your boatAround I.

Speaker 4 (06:01):
Or row row, row your boat Around I thought we were
going to do it like an around.

Speaker 1 (06:03):
No, gently down the stream.
Yeah, maryland, maryland, notMaryland.

Speaker 4 (06:07):
Maryland okay.

Speaker 1 (06:09):
I don't know what's going on, oh my gosh, I really
don't, but we got to get to it,right to it.
Vince, you got the firstarticle up.
The DOT has said some stuffabout drug testing.

Speaker 3 (06:18):
Yeah so the is keeping the required drug
testing limit for carriers at50% of the fleet for the year.
Now what's that mean?
I don't know it means thatcarriers are required to perform
random drug screens on at least50% of the fleet.
Now, it doesn't mean that 50%of the people will get drug

(06:40):
screening.
Drug screening, it just meansif you have 100 drivers in your
fleet, you have to perform 50,at least 50, drug screens.

Speaker 4 (06:51):
So one person could get all 50, in theory even if
it's random.

Speaker 5 (06:55):
You say 50 randoms 50 randoms.

Speaker 3 (06:58):
So 50% of your fleet has to be drug tested.
Wow, and then there's anotherlimit for drug and alcohol.
I'm sorry, alcohol testingremains at 10% of your fleet.
Okay that, actually it went tothat number of 50%.

Speaker 1 (07:16):
I think it was 2020.
2020.

Speaker 3 (07:19):
And so it remains there.
So the way the rules arechanged they're required to
increase the random drug testrate from 25 to 50% following
any calendar year during whichthe reported positive drug test
rate is equal to or greater than1%.
That was a rule that was laidout back in 2001 in the FMCSA

(07:41):
final rule entitled ControlledSubstances and Alcohol Use and
Testing.
So that's how they come up withthis number.
It's not just random, it'sbased on historical positives
and that's where they go to the50%.

Speaker 1 (07:55):
Absolutely.
And to put that in perspectivein 2016, the positive drug usage
was 0.7%, it was 0.8% and then2018 was the year we hit 1%.
Of course, by the time theyalready got that, they were
already at 19%, so they justrolled out in 2020.

(08:17):
I remember when this happened,man, it was like drug tests
started happening like crazy allof a sudden and the number of
people that would get repeatdrug tests went through the roof
.
I've been one of those.
So the way these random drugtests happen, I'm sure a lot of
people go like oh yeah, I'm sureit's random.

Speaker 3 (08:37):
No it really is.

Speaker 1 (08:38):
So the big, large companies have a software system
that has all the drivers inthere and it randomly pulls out,
depending on the size of thecarrier someone like FedEx, I
think it's five or ten names aday that they get and they have
to go get those people drugtested right.
The other companies that aren'tnecessarily large enough to have

(09:00):
that ridiculously expensivesoftware system, that are
smaller, they'll join what'scalled a consortium and so this
consortium handles the drugtesting and everything for the
fleet Right.
So like, if we don't do drugtesting, it's not our business
model.
The carriers handle that.
But if we were to do it, ourfleet is small enough that we
would not be paying to do thisourselves.

(09:20):
We would hire a consortium,join the consortium and then the
consortium would actually sendus the names, and so we'd wake
up in the morning to an emailthat said hey, we need you to
pluck this driver and thisdriver and get them drug tested,
and once we did that they wouldthen tell they would probably
ask us honestly for theirinformation and then the
consortium would actually reachout contact and make it happen,

(09:42):
which is nice because it keepsus clean.

Speaker 2 (09:44):
We're completely out of it.

Speaker 1 (09:45):
There's no way we could falsify anything.

Speaker 3 (09:49):
The consortium then takes care of all the paperwork,
the backside paperwork as well.
It's not just that expensivesoftware package, but it's
handling all the bureaucracy ofthe paperwork.
The consortium takes care ofall that Basically.
No, it's not going into aliteral hat, but all the names
are jumbled up and the computerpicks one or two or whatever it

(10:09):
is.

Speaker 1 (10:10):
It's like we were talking last week about that
200-disc.

Speaker 5 (10:13):
CD changer.

Speaker 1 (10:16):
If you set it to random, it would just randomly
pull a song from each one everynow and then You'd get a song
from the same disc back-to-back,or maybe three or four plays
later to get it again.
It's the same thing.
It's just a random generatorthat pops them out.
So, yeah, it stinks.
I'll tell you what I like isour trucks are pretty much

(10:36):
running under an owner-operatormodel.
Right, where the drivers owntheir own business and they
lease the truck.
Right, they cover the price ofthe, or they cover the burden or
the cost of the drug test.
They cover the burden of thecost of the drug test.
So getting it pulled for a drugtest two or three times in a,
year sucks because you're payingfor that.
But what I love that FedEx andPanther do is if you get pulled
so many times, which I thinkit's three Does that sound right

(10:57):
, jerry?

Speaker 2 (10:57):
I think it's three, it's the last, I heard Three or
four.

Speaker 1 (10:59):
It's either three or four.
Once you get pulled that manytimes, they don't charge you
anymore.
If you did get the unlucky hatwhere you got pulled five times
in one year and trust me thathappens your last two are on the
house.

Speaker 6 (11:15):
At least they, I know right, not when you're driving.

Speaker 1 (11:22):
Not when you're driving, because 10% of people
get pulled in for that as well,but it also explains why we have
so many drug testing chargesand very few drug and alcohol,
and they do split it up, soevery once in a while you'll get
called in for an alcohol.
But, it's kind of rare.
It's usually just a drug test.

Speaker 2 (11:40):
Does the article say the number of people that test
positive for alcohol?

Speaker 1 (11:46):
It doesn't.
It's really concerned mostlyabout the drug policy.
I think you know, when it comesto alcohol and you're being
impaired, especially driving avehicle that size, it's pretty
easy to catch them in a DUI.
So I think they're kind ofallowing that process to happen.
The vice versa of that ifyou're on speed or something

(12:08):
like that and you're driving,you may be doing fine but you're
still putting yourself and yourtruck and everybody at risk.
So that's really going to showup on a random drug test because
an officer can come up to yourtruck and you can be high as a
kite Not high as a kite, butlike on speed or something like
that, which, let's be real,truck drivers most of it's speed

(12:29):
or weed, that's kind of the twothat it ends up being.
If you're on speed, you'reprobably going to talk to the
officer, just fine.
There's probably not going tobe anything you do that'll be
wrong.
You'll be able to walk the linejust fine and all that stuff.
So the line just fine and allthat stuff.
So it does really make drugtesting part of it.
That shows that stuff.
Of course, when they do it, alot of times they catch those

(12:50):
people in wrecks too, like a lotof bad wrecks.
Then they'll go and find it oh,this guy's full of.
Why is the word escape me?

Speaker 6 (12:59):
Methamphetamines.

Speaker 3 (13:00):
Methamphetamines thank you.

Speaker 1 (13:02):
Heron Well, not really Heron, because that slows
you down.
It's hard to drive a truck whenyou can't keep your eyes open.
Really, that's what I hear.

Speaker 4 (13:14):
I remember my stepdad was a trucker and he often I
don't remember this, I was young, but yellow jackets seemed to
be the thing that truckers tookback then and I think that was
an upper.

Speaker 1 (13:25):
Yeah, probably, Of course they were doing paper
logs at the time.

Speaker 2 (13:28):
So I mean, that was a whole thing, but that was legal
.
Yellow jackets were Well, okay,hold on that was
over-the-counter version becauseI used to take them.
Yeah, but there was.

Speaker 1 (13:38):
I don't think his were yeah.
I was going to say there wereyellow jackets they sold that
were cute, and there were yellowjackets that were not Just like
.
Mary Jane, it's a deliciouscandy.

Speaker 3 (13:46):
Delicious candy.

Speaker 1 (13:47):
Delicious candy, but I think we also know that you
can have another kind of MaryJane, that is.
Yeah, rick James sang about her.
He did Way to bring it back.
I remember there was a guy thatI was hearing a story he was
talking about.
He was an older gentleman.
He was talking about runningcross-country solo.

Speaker 3 (14:09):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (14:10):
He would get his load in California and they would
give him bilveting.
They'd give him five toothpicksand the toothpicks were soaked.
Start his first log, startheading out.
When he got tired, he'd drinkhis coffee.
When he got tired again, he'ddrink more coffee.
When he got tired again, he'ddrink more coffee.
When he got tired again, he'dtake his first toothpick and
stick it in his mouth,underneath his tongue, and just

(14:32):
drive and drive and drive andmake it one shot Cross-country
Wow.
Things were so different backthen, that's the kind of stuff
that drug and alcohol testingprevents.

Speaker 5 (14:42):
Asterix.
We do not endorse the use ofany methamphetamines or illegal
substances.

Speaker 1 (14:47):
That is correct.
That is a very quick way togetting booted out of a truck,
losing your career and gettingarrested, and nowadays,
especially with theclearinghouse it's really bad
you pop for a positive on thatand you have to go through all
these steps.
The carriers are required bylaw to turn you into the

(15:08):
clearinghouse and actually Idon't think the carriers even do
it.
I believe it's the drug testingfacilities that do you.

Speaker 4 (15:13):
Once that happens, it's over and it's like you
can't leave a place either untilyou give a sample correct so if
you for some reason can'tprovide a sample or can't do it
in a timely fashion, and thenthat runs out, or all of those,
those are all reasons for themto report you and it shows that
you failed.
So don't ever leave.

Speaker 2 (15:34):
Don't ever refuse, don't refuse.
You have one hour to get thereonce you're called.

Speaker 4 (15:40):
But they do give you a certain amount of time, like
if you didn't drink enough water.
Most clinics give you, like,another hour once you actually
arrive, to make a production ofsomething.

Speaker 1 (15:48):
It's an hour to check in.

Speaker 4 (15:49):
To get there and check in?
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (15:51):
So once you've checked in, then it's a clinic's
leisure.
I mean, I think we've all beenthere.
Well, maybe you'll have youcheck in within your hour and
then you sit four hours.
Because they have peopleBecause, Because they're so
backed up to get you in, Becausea lot of those places drug
testing places, but also labsthere'll be other people going
in to get just blood work drawnand stuff.
There's other places that aremore urgent care-ish.

(16:11):
And so they're literallyhandling emergencies, and your
drug test comes in second Don'tleave, don't leave, don't leave.

Speaker 4 (16:21):
Have your food Ubered in.
Have your coffee Ubered in.

Speaker 3 (16:23):
Whatever?

Speaker 4 (16:23):
you need Uber.

Speaker 6 (16:24):
Eats, it usually smells like coffee.

Speaker 1 (16:26):
Yep.

Speaker 4 (16:27):
Don't leave until you provide a sample.

Speaker 1 (16:29):
Absolutely, it's a you know, and even if it's like,
well, I'm over this, okay,still do your drug test.

Speaker 2 (16:35):
Still do your drug test, yeah.

Speaker 5 (16:37):
Don't close Unless you're like I'm over this job.
Well, that's what I'm saying.
Not even that, though.

Speaker 4 (16:41):
No, because that goes on your clearinghouse and you
won't be able to get anothertrucking shop and other carriers
are required to query theclearinghouse before they hire
you, so in four years.

Speaker 1 (16:50):
when you go and show up and you're like, or when
you're like, all right, you knowwhat?
I do want to go back in thereon the road.
Life's changed, things aredifferent, and it's.
Let me do it again.
Boy, you go there and they pullyou up in the clearinghouse.
It's game over.
Now you've got to find a SAPwhich is like a secondary.

Speaker 4 (17:11):
You've done these courses and stuff to be able to
drive.

Speaker 1 (17:12):
It's like a diversion class Exactly, yeah, exactly.
And so they make you.
You've got to find a carrierthat will accept it, which
neither one of our carriers do.
It's very difficult.
It's very, very difficult.
Go ahead and get that drug testdone, even if it's like I'm
done after this.
I think of people that hadwrecks.
I know some people that havehad accidents before and they

(17:33):
were required to go get a drugtest and didn't want to go do it
and had to be talked into it,and one person in particular I'm
thinking of didn't go at alland it's like don't do that.

Speaker 3 (17:43):
If you are clean, go and get your drug test done.

Speaker 1 (17:49):
If you're not clean, go and get your drug test done,
Because then at least you haveways to take those courses do
the remediation.

Speaker 4 (17:54):
The clock starts ticking.

Speaker 1 (17:55):
Yes, the clock starts ticking.
You have ways to get thatcleaned up.
It doesn't ruin your career.
Now, if you're not clean,please quit doing whatever
you're doing.
That's not a good way to run atruck.
There's nothing out therethat's worth it.
Caffeine, very true.
And sleep, caffeine and sleep.
Yeah, that's the way to go.
We have a situation brewing inthe east.

Speaker 4 (18:17):
Snow Cold.

Speaker 1 (18:19):
Timu.

Speaker 5 (18:20):
Beer.

Speaker 4 (18:21):
Beer Brewing.

Speaker 1 (18:23):
Timu and Sheen.
I'm not sure if you heard Is itSheen or Sheen?
It's Sheen, sheen.
Okay, I don't know if you'veheard of these companies.
They're small, very tinycompanies out of China I'm sorry
China and they are growing likecrazy.
And the reason they are growingis because a few years ago they

(18:49):
put a law in that said smallvalue items coming from who put
the law in.
America.
The US government put a law insaying that small value parcels
and merchandise coming from anycountry into America if it's

(19:11):
under $800, it was lower thanthat, but it got bumped to $800,
then they are exempt from dutyand tax payments, so they can
come in the country free, likeyou don't have to pay tax or
anything on it.
And by doing this, um, theyinadvertently opened up the
world to more e-commerce cominginto the country.

(19:31):
And the reason they did thiswas there were so many packages
coming into the country and theuh customs department of customs
cfp, whatever it is uh, theywere so in the they weren't able
to check as much as they neededto check.
They were having a lot ofissues that they went ahead and
said, all right, well, all thesemassive amounts of small value

(19:54):
packages, just let them in thecountry.
We'll focus on the big stuff.
Right, like, who cares about alittle tiny package?
We want to stop people fromsmuggling in rolls royces full
of coke, things like that.
That was their goal.
That's what they did.
And then, you see, I thinkoriginally probably the first
big one after they did this wasum wish and, uh, alibaba.

(20:19):
Like they really grew quickly Iremember wish.

Speaker 4 (20:23):
Is wish not still a thing?
I?

Speaker 1 (20:24):
don't know if Wish is still a thing.

Speaker 4 (20:26):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (20:26):
Teemu is now in huh.
I don't use any of them.

Speaker 4 (20:28):
I don't either.

Speaker 1 (20:29):
So it's hard for me to say.
I don't say that as like a patmyself on the back.
I don't use them, I just never.

Speaker 3 (20:35):
Have.

Speaker 1 (20:37):
I've never been to Bloomingdale's.
I'm not opposed to it, I justnever have so same thing with
these Right.
So these companies realized hey, there's a huge market in
America.
We can fly this cargo intoAmerica, we don't have to pay
taxes or duties on it, and bydoing so, keeping all the
parcels small.
So if you order $1,000 fromTimu, that would be like a

(21:00):
container, but if you did, theycould break it down into small
boxes and send them individuallyand they're all under that $800
mark.
And so they're able to skip alot of this jurisdiction and all
this hoopla.
So eventually, the Americangovernment has called up to
what's happening.
The American government hascalled up to what's happening.
61% of all merchandise comingfrom this discount program that

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they put in is coming from China.
Everybody else is pretty muchdoing it right, and they only
send little stuff here every nowand then, but China is by far
the one taking the mostadvantage of this loophole.
What they are proposing is totake China off the list of
places that they can do this.

Speaker 4 (21:43):
That's going to hurt Timu.

Speaker 1 (21:44):
It's going to force Timu to build a warehouse in
America and Xi'an to build awarehouse in America, so they
can ship it over on a containership and then break it apart
here in America and parcel itout Wow.
So that is currently in processto be discussed.
They're going through all thediscussion processes.

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It's got to go through severalhearings you know all that stuff
before it can actually happen?

Speaker 4 (22:10):
Do people really need all that stuff?

Speaker 1 (22:14):
Well, that's part of what they're saying.
Why do we need all of them?
Well, for one, it's cheap.
That's helpful to a lot offamilies.
But they're saying they'resaying that a lot of we need all
of them.
Well, for one, it's cheap,that's helpful to a lot of
families.
But they are saying because ofthis they're there.
There's nothing enforcing, um,all these items coming from
china to be the us standards ofsafety.
So there's kids toys comingwith lead paint, there's, uh,

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fabrics that'll make you breakout as soon as you put them on.
There's's like some serioushealth concerns there with it.
There's also just they feellike there's the abuse of the
legal loophole, right.
And then also, I mean it's nosecret, the new administration
just came into office and theywant to tariff China and this is
a way that they are gettingtheir goods in the country

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tariff-free.

Speaker 3 (23:01):
Right.
The interesting thing, though,is that the changes were made
under the Biden administrationjust last week, but they think
it's going to be a lot worse.
It could be worse under Trumpbecause of the tariff threats.
Interesting fact, a stat that Ifound here was they call these
de minimis shipments.

Speaker 1 (23:21):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (23:21):
In 2015, there were 134 million per year.
In 2024, that number jumped tomore than a billion pieces.

Speaker 6 (23:31):
Wow, that's crazy.
Was it Timu or Sheen wheresomebody was getting scorpions?
Wasn't somebody sendingscorpions in the packaging?

Speaker 1 (23:41):
Oh yes, yes, I did see that.
I saw that on.
Yeah, I don't remember whichone it was, but yes.

Speaker 6 (23:46):
I thought it was one of the two Like live scorpions
Were coming in the packages,yeah, Were they ordering
scorpions, or they just showedup on accident?
They just happened to be in thepackage when the people would
get them.
It can happen.

Speaker 1 (24:00):
I remember when they were reactivating all those
A380s.
So back in the middle of theheight of the pandemic, all
these airlines parked all thesehuge planes, a380s the largest
airplane in the world as far aspassengers are concerned and so
they were parking all theseplanes in the desert.
We have no use for them, peoplearen't flying.
What's the point of having them?
Lufthansa said we're not goingto fly them anymore.

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Air France quit flying them.
Well, actually, that's not true.
Air France quit a couple yearsearlier.
But British Airways parked them, said we're going to fly them
again, but they parked them.
Qantas parked their entirefleet of these giant airplanes.
No one's flying flying.
We don't need them.
They're very expensive to fly,you have to have a lot of people
to fill them up and so theyparked them in the desert.

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So when we got out of thepandemic and the world exploded,
then everybody wanted to go,travel and do things.
They started taking theseplanes back.
Lathonsa completely changedtheir mind on it, which blew
everybody away.
Nobody saw that coming and theystarted putting these things
back in the air.
Well, to do that Back in theair Well, to do that they have
to go through a big check.
You know they have to gothrough and check everything.
Make sure it's airworthy.

Speaker 3 (25:02):
It's airworthy exactly.

Speaker 1 (25:03):
And you know what they started finding in the
planes Scorpions, snakes, oohsnakes.

Speaker 5 (25:07):
Snakes on a plane Snakes on a plane, I'm sure
there are quite a fewmaintenance technicians going
through these planes.

Speaker 2 (25:16):
Every inch.

Speaker 3 (25:16):
And after a couple of days saying I'm sick of these
snakes on this plane Hollywoodis on to something.

Speaker 5 (25:26):
Yeah, they were.
They were A little too soon,they were a little premature.

Speaker 1 (25:29):
But no, so it doesn't surprise me, like I've heard of
people just ordering stuffacross America, getting packages
that have dead roaches andthings like that in there, which
just freaked me out Makes youwonder about the environment
where they came from.

Speaker 3 (25:44):
Absolutely, it's not intentional.

Speaker 5 (25:48):
It's just standard procedure.

Speaker 4 (25:50):
I have no desire to order from Timu Now sheen on the
other hand, there's things fromsheen, but then I'm afraid to
do sheen, so I'll go to Amazonand try to do the similar,
similar type thing that I mightwant talking about clothing and
you pay.

Speaker 1 (26:04):
You pay 10 times more on amazon so it's 12.

Speaker 5 (26:07):
So it's 12 dollars, right but I just and have it
here tomorrow.

Speaker 4 (26:12):
I'm excited sheen.
You have to do your, yourmeasurements, you have to.
Okay, I'm a size, but I have togo eight times larger.

Speaker 1 (26:22):
That makes your confidence level tank.
It's just not worth it, whichis opposite of what American
clothes companies are actuallymaking the clothes bigger.

Speaker 4 (26:30):
Yes, I like that.

Speaker 1 (26:31):
Like a size 36 jeans is a size 40 day.

Speaker 6 (26:37):
There were actually multiple reports of scorpions
found in sheen packages, so itwas sheen Nice, yes, and they
identified them as Chinesescorpions.

Speaker 5 (26:47):
Maybe I like the scorpion pet.
Yeah, maybe my aquariumterranium started.

Speaker 3 (26:55):
You just don't want to open the package and have it
surprise you.

Speaker 1 (26:58):
Yeah, and remember, remember people.
Baby scorpions are moredangerous than mama scorpion,
Same with snakes.
If you run across a snake inthe wild and it bites you pray.
It's a senior adult.
The adults know how to controltheir venom, so they're only
going to put enough venom in youto immobilize you.

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Kids, don't they just?

Speaker 3 (27:22):
go for it and end up killing.

Speaker 5 (27:24):
you Sounds so familiar.

Speaker 4 (27:27):
What I mean it's just in general right.

Speaker 6 (27:33):
Kids try to kill you too.
Kids don't have as much controlusually.

Speaker 1 (27:38):
Oh so the last thing I was going to say about the
situation is Ti Mu and Xin.
Ti Mu and Xin and the Chinesebeing blocked off from this.
Again, it's still in debate, soit may not even happen, but it
is something they're talkingabout.

Speaker 4 (27:50):
All these people are trying to get their orders in
right now.

Speaker 1 (27:52):
It is something they're talking about and, with
the administration we have, itwouldn't surprise me if it does
get pushed through.
But it wouldn't surprise me ifit does get pushed through.
But we've talked about beforehow they're building a huge city
in Mexico where they'rebuilding all this Chinese stuff
so that it can be shipped acrossthe country and it's from
Mexico, it's not from China.

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So that's still going on.
But the Mexican government lastmonth so we are talking
December they changed theirtrade rules on apparel,
effectively ending borderskipping strategy.
So what it means is what thesecompanies are doing we're
sending from China to Mexico.
Mexico is taking them off thetruck or off the airplane and

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then shipping them into thecountry, into US, and saying
this is from Mexico, it's notfrom China.
And Mexico just did a endedtheir rules or changed their
rules, saying that when it comesto apparel, you can't do that
anymore.
So they will not.
It's not going to be a placefor Timu or Sheen to go like oh,
we'll just move our stuff to,we'll add one stop and get it

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over there.
They're not allowing it.

Speaker 5 (29:00):
You don't want to get caught in the middle of that.

Speaker 1 (29:02):
Exactly, I think the Mexican over at Salt was
happening.
They saw Trump back in officeand they're like no, we're good,
we don't need that.
You want to bring your peoplehere and you want to build your
plants and you want tocontribute to Mexican tax
dollars?
Sure, but you're not using usas a front to get your products
into the country.
Yeah, wow.
So that was interesting thatthey did make that change.

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They did also talk about thefact that the average shipment
is $54 in value and that the CBP, which is the border agents and
the customs agents, they arealready severely understaffed.
So if this does go forth, howare they going to handle the

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influx of packages, alreadybeing extremely understaffed?
So it's interesting.
I'm anxious to see what happens.
And then, how does you knowTimu and Sheen?
Do they just disappear?

Speaker 4 (29:57):
Has anybody in this room bought from either one?

Speaker 1 (29:59):
Negative.

Speaker 5 (30:00):
No.

Speaker 1 (30:00):
No, no, no, I haven't , but I have a lot of friends
that have.
So, in fairness, I know peoplethat have and they've had great
success with it.
So the lead times take forever,you know when you order.

Speaker 3 (30:10):
it takes a long time to get to you, but then when
they get it.

Speaker 1 (30:12):
I've heard that it's good quality.
Eric and I have on as y'allknow, we travel a lot, so we've
been on several cruises wherepeople we've seen sheen, uh, and
we've seen and we talked topeople who are like, yeah, we
got this bathing suits from timu, we ordered them, you know,
three, four months ago and, uh,this cruise is the first time
you know wearing them orwhatever.
So it's like it's out there andsome of it doesn't look bad.

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It's just they're finding waysto circumvent american safety
standards.
That's where I'm like I don'twant to buy something, put it on
and find out that I now have apermanent scar on my body for
the rest of my life, or whatever, or materials that's extremely
flammable, so you get kind ofclose to heat or catch on fire.
That kind of stuff makes menervous.
I certainly wouldn't buy achild toy from there.

Speaker 4 (30:58):
No.

Speaker 1 (30:59):
And it's not saying that they're all bad.
Some are great.
The problem is you have no wayto vet the good ones from the
bad ones.

Speaker 4 (31:06):
Makes sense.

Speaker 5 (31:07):
So one time I'm proud to say I have my Amazon.

Speaker 1 (31:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (31:12):
My US Amazon.
And Amazon has a standard towithhold and it's safer.

Speaker 1 (31:18):
And they're very strict.
If you ever talk to someone whodoes business with Amazon, they
will tell you Amazon is superstrict and very difficult to
work with, which makes it a goodthing.

Speaker 5 (31:29):
I've ordered some stuff from there that were
extremely like homemade stuffand they were just marketing
with Amazon to get their stuffout.
The wreath I had for Day of theDead that was homemade, so I
don't.
Amazon also does home.

Speaker 4 (31:50):
They do small sellers Consignment, yeah so it's not
just manufactured stuff thatjust pump it out deliver it.

Speaker 5 (32:00):
Pump it out, deliver it.
This is also people at theirhouses who are making homegrown
stuff and delivering it.

Speaker 3 (32:06):
Amazon will actually highlight minority-owned,
women-owned businesses as wellas crafts and things of that
nature that aren't mass-producedbut are smaller productions.
So they'll actually work withthose folks.

Speaker 4 (32:20):
I like Etsy.
I use Etsy a lot.

Speaker 1 (32:23):
I was just about to say I don't think it's all noble
.
I do think they see the successof Etsy and say hey, we want in
on some of that that's fine.
That's the beauty of I'm acapitalist.
It's the beauty of capitalismIf you see something that's
working well, then sort it, orsay it and then sort it Exactly.

Speaker 5 (32:43):
And if it's good, try to get in on it.

Speaker 1 (32:44):
Try to get in on it.

Speaker 4 (32:45):
I've ordered quite a bit off of Etsy.
Actually, over the years I'vedone the peacock feathers for my
birthday outfit.
For the peacocks I've done lastyear and last year, the year I
wore my camo outfit.
I did the tattoos Lady was sohelpful because I wanted
specific stick-on tattoos, notjust the ones you use water

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washcloth.
What else have I done?
I've done a custom mug for aChristmas present.
Lots of stuff.
I've used it quite a bit, ohyeah, and people are always so
personable.
But that's more like a localmom-pop business, though I think
behind the scenes.

Speaker 1 (33:23):
Yeah Well, and I've done the same thing through Etsy
, but also through Amazon.
We did a big Ditas Martes thingfor the mentor retreat, which
you all may have seen the videosfrom last year about, and we
did an altar, which is where youcelebrate those that have
passed before you.

Speaker 5 (33:43):
It's not like a commemorative altar.

Speaker 1 (33:45):
Yes, it's so funny.
When I first said we're goingto do this, I had a couple
people be like we're notworshiping Satan, are we?
And I'm like no, it's nothinglike that.

Speaker 5 (33:52):
Literally, we had some people thought it was
witchcraft, Not Satan.

Speaker 3 (33:56):
Beelzebub.

Speaker 5 (33:57):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 3 (33:59):
It's all about just keeping the memory If you've
seen Coco the movie you knowabout, but it's about just
keeping the memory of your pastrelatives that have passed on.

Speaker 1 (34:08):
So I picture my mom went up there, my grandpa,
things like that, people that Iwant to remember and it's very
sweet.
But I ordered some stuff fromthat from Amazon and when I got
it, the sugar skull was handmadein Mexico and a couple of other
things were local to Mexico andhandcrafted and that was really
cool to get.

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I was not expecting that.
I was expecting, honestly, some.
They said what they said andI'm like, yeah, it's going to be
Chinese stuff and it wasn't.
It was really handcrafted stuff.

Speaker 4 (34:39):
You're thinking Halloween or the Spirit Store?
Yes, that's exactly what I saidSpirit Store stuff.

Speaker 1 (34:43):
Exactly so.
It'll be interesting to see ifthese things go through what
happens.
Interesting Absolutely, Vince.
You had another article youwant to share with us real quick
that.
I've read it like three timesand I think I understand, but
I'm still a little confusedexactly what it means, and I

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thought you could walk usthrough it.
It sounds like a great thing,but I'm still a little confused.

Speaker 3 (35:09):
Is this the article about the new rest area?
It is.

Speaker 4 (35:18):
Where Ohio is doing a lot to revamp their rest areas.
It's a long drive betweenIndianapolis and home.

Speaker 1 (35:24):
They're doing a lot to do every rest area all at
once.

Speaker 3 (35:28):
So you are screwed if you need one right now.

Speaker 4 (35:32):
Don't drink coffee or water through the state of Ohio
, but they did just reopen oneon I-71 between Columbus and
Cincinnati.

Speaker 3 (35:42):
That's been closed for quite some time.

Speaker 1 (35:44):
That's right off the bridge, the gorge.

Speaker 4 (35:48):
I think so.
Yeah, I think it is.

Speaker 3 (35:49):
I think it is.
It's the northbound rest area.
You said Cincinnati.
It's between Columbus andCincinnati.

Speaker 1 (35:56):
Okay, so it's before the gorge right there on the
right-hand side, and then afterthat you get on the bridge.

Speaker 3 (36:01):
Yeah, so the Ohio Department of Transportation and
the Ohio Department ofDisabilities, an organization
called Changing Spaces Ohio,created this first installment
in a rest area with a universalchanging station.
So what this looks like to meis that they, instead of having

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a changing station inside of themen's restroom and the women's
restroom For babies For babieschanging babies yeah, it looks
like they have actually createda special dedicated room with a
changing station, so you have alittle privacy and you're not
changing baby out in the middleof the room.

Speaker 6 (36:38):
I thought that sounded like it was more than
just babies.
I may have said that.
It was for developmental adultsthat maybe need a little more
extra privacy.

Speaker 4 (36:44):
Oh, I thought that was always what the middle
restroom that goes either waygoes, and it had a changing
table.
Well, the family restroom, thefamily restroom.

Speaker 3 (36:51):
Yeah, this one does improve travel for adults with
developmental disabilities aswell.

Speaker 1 (37:06):
Yeah, that's what I was going to ask.
Is this for families who haveloved ones who can't use the
restroom on their own, orsomething Like you know there's
adults that have diapers becausethey can't control their
facilities, or whatever thatthis is a place for them to be
able to clean that up and helpthem?
Because I never thought aboutbefore reading this article
honestly, is it making me a badperson?
I don't know.
I never thought about that,like I've known, there's people
that like can't control forwhatever reason.

Speaker 3 (37:28):
Some people it's surgery.

Speaker 1 (37:29):
I've heard of people, women who have had pregnancies
and during the pregnancy they dothe.
Is it a pesiotomy and sometimesafter that there's a condition
that can happen with controlling.
And so certainly that's a thing.
I've also known people thathave really low-functioning

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autism or Down syndrome orthings like that.

Speaker 4 (37:54):
How about celterly?

Speaker 1 (37:55):
who might need it, sure, sure.
So I've known about that, butI've never thought to myself how
do you take a drive-in?

Speaker 3 (38:01):
There's a quote in this article from the Columbus
Dispatch from Ohio Governor MikeDeWine.
He says this is a privatefamily restroom that provides a
clean, safe area for people withdisabilities and medical
conditions and their caregiversto tend to their needs.
Nice it's really nice we'rebeing all inclusive here.
It's really nice we're beingall inclusive here.

Speaker 4 (38:19):
So I wonder if it's bigger, maybe has some bench
seating.
I would hope so, because I knowthe family bathrooms don't
necessarily have it, it's justreally a toilet sink and the
changing table.

Speaker 3 (38:26):
Right but.

Speaker 4 (38:27):
I could see more of a where you can get somebody in,
maybe actually sit them almostlike a love shower, without
maybe the shower, you know, abench Well and I know I've had
been in bathrooms facilitieswhere they do have that.

Speaker 6 (38:43):
It's like the toilet is kind of curtained off and
they have a shower thing in caseyou are either of a size or a
incapability that you cannotwipe or clean yourself.
Well that you can use that.

Speaker 4 (38:56):
So like a jumbo bidet Kind of yeah.

Speaker 3 (38:59):
So this initiative also.
They've installed universalcharging stations in 136
different locations in 42 Ohiocounties, including libraries,
zoos, fairgrounds and communitycenters, and they're looking to
install more stations in publicspaces.
This is the first one in a restarea at this point.

Speaker 4 (39:18):
Nice, that's very cool.
Yeah, it is.
Wow, so they're encouragingpeople to get out.

Speaker 3 (39:23):
Yes.

Speaker 4 (39:23):
So you don't have to time things like we only have an
hour.

Speaker 3 (39:26):
Right, we got to get out and come back, right away,
get out and come back right away.
Yeah, you have somewhere youknow you can go and have these
facilities available to you.

Speaker 4 (39:33):
Because you might be a while Outside the Nice.
Nice, that's pretty cool.

Speaker 1 (39:38):
I think so too.
It's crazy.
It's one of those things that,like, I've never really thought
about.
Again, like I said, it's justnever come across my privy.
But now that I hear it I'm likeoh yeah, we should have had
these a long time ago.

Speaker 4 (39:51):
This isn't the reason that they're revamping them,
right though.

Speaker 1 (39:54):
Well, can we say revamp's a strong word, they
Prevamp's a strong word.
They've torn them to the ground.
Yeah, they're rebuilding them,but this I think it was just
time.

Speaker 4 (40:02):
I think it was time.

Speaker 1 (40:03):
It was definitely time.

Speaker 4 (40:04):
And if you're going to do it, what are?

Speaker 3 (40:06):
extras we can add.
What can we do to improve them,not just tearing them down and
rebuilding them?

Speaker 4 (40:10):
I did think it was odd that it.

Speaker 3 (40:12):
Brick but tearing them down and rebuilding them,
because we want to make changesto too.

Speaker 4 (40:16):
It's like all of Ohio's All of them.

Speaker 1 (40:19):
They've all been torn down.
It's crazy Kind of like youever see them when they're.

Speaker 4 (40:23):
They kind of alternate them.

Speaker 1 (40:24):
I thought they used to.
I thought so too.
Or have one crew that just doesone, then goes next, does it,
then goes next.
I remember thinking years agowhen I was traveling down the
road and they were doing roadconstruction, and you know what
it is.
You're like on a single lane onthe interstate for miles and
nothing's being done.
And then, finally, you get upto the road construction.

(40:45):
They're doing it there and it'slike why don't you just, if
you're going to rebuild it inlittle sections?
adjust the cones accordinglyLike why do we have to shut the
whole thing down?
You?

Speaker 6 (40:57):
have to get the equipment that does this, so you
get all the grading done Thenyou get rid of that equipment.
Then you get the equipment thatcomes in that smooths it all
out and flattens it all in, andwhatever the process is, what's
the old joke?

Speaker 1 (41:11):
There was the construction crew and they were
going through and one guy wasdigging up holes and the guy
behind him was was filling themback in and they were like hey,
what's going on?
What are you all digging theseholes and filling them in?
He's like, yeah, the guy thatplants the trees, he's off today
.

Speaker 4 (41:29):
That's good, that's awesome, that's good.

Speaker 1 (41:39):
But yeah, so every time they do a project like this
, they take everything out allat once.
I'm like cool, that means whenit's done, everything will be
done really fast.

Speaker 4 (41:47):
Sure.

Speaker 1 (41:47):
At the same time, it's super inconvenient for
those people.

Speaker 4 (41:51):
The one east on 70, I wonder if that one's I mean,
that's a pretty new one.
Anyway, past Lubs there's areally huge one where you have
to loop-de-loo and loop-de-looback out.

Speaker 3 (42:02):
Yeah, I haven't been out east that way in a long time
.

Speaker 4 (42:04):
It's been a hot moment.
I think the first one north?

Speaker 1 (42:07):
Is that one in Ohio, or is that one in Indiana?

Speaker 4 (42:09):
No, no, no, East East East.

Speaker 5 (42:10):
East East.

Speaker 3 (42:11):
East.

Speaker 1 (42:14):
East Fancy one.
It's been a while, it's been acouple years for me, yeah.

Speaker 4 (42:18):
I know, yeah, so anyways, that one was a newer
one anyway, compared to, I think, everything that we've passed,
I think the first one north on71, is that first one still open
?

Speaker 3 (42:29):
I think no.

Speaker 1 (42:31):
I think that's the one that just reopened.

Speaker 3 (42:33):
I'm looking at Jerry, because no, it's the one that
just reopened south, inCincinnati.

Speaker 4 (42:41):
I couldn't tell you I don't ever pay attention.

Speaker 3 (42:43):
There's two going north to Medina.

Speaker 1 (42:43):
There are North and then on the way back there's
just one.
Can we say how much Iappreciate they have them.
Because, in Louisiana.
Our governor went through andsold all of them.

Speaker 5 (42:56):
Even at the state lines.
They closed their introductoryrest areas to Louisiana.

Speaker 3 (43:03):
I remember coming into Louisiana, going westbound
and stopping right at the one onthe border, the Welcome Center
there.

Speaker 1 (43:12):
The.

Speaker 3 (43:12):
Welcome Center.
Yep, and there's the buildingand the restrooms are behind the
building.
Correct?
Yeah, and I had to pee, butbefore I could go to the
restrooms I had to give the ladymy zip code.
Yes, I'm like, I just got topee, I just need your zip code.

Speaker 1 (43:28):
Bless your heart.
Yeah, bless your heart.

Speaker 3 (43:30):
Yeah, I had to give her my zip code and it took
forever for her to understandwhat I was saying.
I remember years ago.

Speaker 4 (43:36):
You're like I'm just going to go right here, Clean up
on aisle four.

Speaker 1 (43:41):
So the last time I drove to Louisiana, which it's
been a couple years, the welcomecenters were still open, but
all the rest areas were gone.
I mean several of the restareas are like.

Speaker 5 (43:50):
So what's the difference?

Speaker 1 (43:51):
Shopping centers.
Now what?

Speaker 5 (43:53):
Rest areas and.

Speaker 1 (43:55):
So the rest area, like I'm trying to think On I-12
, when you're heading betweenHammond, louisiana and Slidell
or the state line withMississippi, there was one about
halfway through there, outsideof Madisonville.
It's a shopping center.
So on either side where therest area used to be, on both

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sides, they had a rest area oneach side.
They now are roads that arelike exits to go straight into
the shopping center and oneither side where the rest area
used to be, on both sides,they'd rest on each side.

Speaker 4 (44:25):
They now are roads that they're like exits to go
straight into the shoppingcenter.
It's crazy.
There's a few roads I hate, andI-12 is one of them.

Speaker 1 (44:30):
There's nothing, it's just a desolate stretch of dark
nothingness when you're thenight driver.
When I grew up, there were.

Speaker 5 (44:35):
That's what's so crazy about it, I think what I
was trying to get at thedifference between a welcome
center and a rest area.
Welcome centers are at thestate line, which Louisa is
keeping most of those, but therest areas which are in the
middle of the state.
They were kind of getting ridof those.

Speaker 1 (44:51):
Yeah, they pretty much got rid of all the only one
I know, so at the state line.

Speaker 5 (44:54):
You'll have a welcome center where you can use
restroom.

Speaker 1 (45:05):
And you get some brochures about the state and
find learn about the state butgoing through the state, no
bathroom, I think the differenceis, I think the welcome centers
are paid for by the uh, thesecretary of state truism, yes,
uh, and then the rest areas arepaid for by the department of
transportation and those arewhat got scrapped, even the one
rest area I know that's stillopen, or I think is still open,
which is on 49,.
Once you go north of Lafayettethere's a rest area outside of

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Opelousas.
I believe it's actuallyattached to a state park and I
think the state park keeps itgoing.

Speaker 3 (45:36):
It's on a huge lake, so I think that's why it's still
going.

Speaker 5 (45:39):
That makes sense.

Speaker 1 (45:40):
Anything with DOT.
There was a while there whereLouisiana was in a really bad
deficit.
We needed money desperately,and so the governor, Bobby
Jindal, went in there and hesold off all the jails,
privatized all the jails.
Privatized a lot of stuff, soldoff a bunch of this excess

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property, rest areas, you knownon-critical places, shut down a
bunch of hospitals.

Speaker 6 (46:09):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (46:09):
Yes, did it work?
It got Louisiana back to beingon the right side of the budget,
but it severely hurt the impactof the people in the state.
Sure, so, like I don't know,that's a tough one, because if
the state loses too much moneyit's going to have, you know,
problems, and we all knowdriving through Louisiana the

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roads are crap.

Speaker 4 (46:31):
So they needed to figure something out.
Nice thing about Louisiana,though you can do it in just
like a few hours.

Speaker 1 (46:36):
So one welcome center to the next state's welcome
center, so hopefully you canhold your bladder.
And what's great is like TexasWelcome.

Speaker 5 (46:45):
Center is this nice, modern, beautiful place.
It's a whole ranch.
You expect to see cows andhorses in the back.

Speaker 1 (46:50):
But remember it's half.
It's like the left side's ranch, the right side's swamp.

Speaker 4 (46:54):
We're talking an I-10 though right.

Speaker 1 (46:55):
Yeah, the right side is Swamp, Yep, and they have
that trail.
You can go walk through theSwampland.
It's really really nice.
And then you go to the otherside of the state, which is
Mississippi.
You walk in theirs.
Theirs is set up like an oldantebellum house, and I don't
mean that in the racist way, Imean like in the architectural
sense it's an old antebellumhouse.
It's beautiful on the inside.

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They got all the antiquefurniture.
The floor is brick.
Is it brick?
I think it's a brick floor.
It's really really nice andit's like.
Then you go to Louisiana andthey've got the stainless steel
urinals that the Angola StatePenitentiary built.
No, the prisoners made them.

Speaker 6 (47:37):
With no seats With no seats.
Angola has it With seats builtin so.

Speaker 3 (47:42):
Angola.

Speaker 6 (47:42):
With no seats.

Speaker 1 (47:43):
Angola has Well seats built in.

Speaker 6 (47:43):
Okay, it's just a bowl.
Yeah, angola is the People whodon't have to sit down as often
is the maximum security prisonin Louisiana.

Speaker 1 (47:51):
It's you know it's a bad place, but they do.
They do have a lot ofmanufacturing and a lot of jobs
there.
People work and one of them isto make that stuff.

Speaker 4 (48:02):
You get your hover skills or your squat skills in.
It's just so embarrassing.

Speaker 1 (48:07):
As someone from Louisiana you're like welcome to
Louisiana, the prison state.
It's just not a good look.

Speaker 3 (48:15):
I think to Eric's point, though in some states a
welcome center and a rest area,there's no difference.
In other states the welcomecenter is welcoming, they have
lots of brochures and someonestaffing it to give you
information on the state andthat kind of thing.
But other states it's just like, yeah, we're just a rest area.

Speaker 6 (48:32):
They just have extra brochures sitting out yeah
exactly.

Speaker 4 (48:36):
Well, I think the one on the way back from Medina,
just before you come intoColumbus.
It's just, it's got twobuildings.
One is the concessions, theVindi machines.

Speaker 3 (48:46):
Right.

Speaker 4 (48:47):
And then the other one is the rest area.
But even that's, that's rathernice, you know just.

Speaker 1 (48:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (48:52):
Because you get snacks.
If you need snacks, sure.

Speaker 1 (48:54):
Alabama's outside of Tuscaloosa when you're going up
59, I think it is.
Is it 59 or 20?
20.
Is that 20, 59?

Speaker 3 (49:03):
It might be 20, 59.
I think it's at ComboInterstate.
I think it is at that point.

Speaker 1 (49:07):
Their rest area is really nice.
The only thing that stinksabout it is that it's uphill
every direction, Like they builtthe building on the top of a
hill.
I do remember that one, andbuilt all the parking around it,
so you're going uphill nomatter what, but then, once you,
get in there.
It's pleasant and they havepeople staffing it.
But the best thing about theMississippi Welcome Center let
me finish Mississippi WelcomeCenter as a kid had fresh

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community coffee.
So when you walked in there andthey still do, they still have
that when you walk in there justthe smell of wonderful-tasting
coffee just fills the air.
And they also had a Coke,sprite, diet Coke and Root Beer
soda fountain, a four-tap sodafountain.
And so as a kid, you'd walk inthere and I'd be able to get my

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Coke.

Speaker 3 (49:52):
Nice and then drink my little.

Speaker 1 (49:54):
Coke as I walk around the little place.

Speaker 3 (49:55):
You know the rest areas in Florida.
You can go in and get Coke too.

Speaker 1 (49:59):
It's well.
Yeah, do they still do orangejuice?
No, when I went to Floridayears, ago.

Speaker 3 (50:05):
I've never seen orange juice in Florida, just
vending machines In the restareas in Florida.
No, that's right.

Speaker 1 (50:11):
The Welcome Center.
I remember going to the WelcomeCenter as a kid.
No, Going to Pensacola, you goto the Welcome Center and they
would have orange juice.
Do you remember that, Jerry?
You went to, okay, yeah.

Speaker 4 (50:20):
So in Oregon I thought it was the coolest thing
that if you pulled into a restarea they had booths or a
trailer, very small trailer, butthey had like VFW typically it
was VFW Veterans, foreign War.

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Sometimes they'd have CubScoutsouts, other little
entities like that, uh, butthey'd be serving the coffee and
the goods and it would be ondonation and I've never seen
that in any other state in thethree years we traveled oregon
like like not just one rest area, like at least on the i-5
corridor.

Speaker 3 (51:00):
They had an entity.

Speaker 4 (51:04):
Most of it, I think, was VFW.

Speaker 3 (51:06):
It was a lot of volunteer organizations that
were doing it for strictlydonations.

Speaker 4 (51:10):
But they would have maybe donuts if you got there
early enough and if it wasn'tthat maybe they might have and
their vending machines werestill there.
But you had the opportunity andit was nothing to rip you off.
You know, most of it might havebeen donations.
Sometimes it might say 50 centsfor a cup of coffee.

Speaker 3 (51:25):
I don't recall ever seeing a price for it.

Speaker 4 (51:28):
Yeah.
Donations welcome, but neverseeing a price for it, maybe
that's what it was, but I'venever and we did all 48 states.
Yeah, I've never seen any otherstates do that and I thought it
was the coolest thing.

Speaker 3 (51:39):
When I went north on I-5 with my purse trainer out of
Oregon, out of Central PointOregon, and we got to our first
rest area and he mentioned itwas night so they weren't there.
But he mentioned this is whereyou can get your coffee for a
donation, if you want, or free.
I'm like what All I knew wasCalifornia rest areas.

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You know you might go in thereand get a free shiv and they'll
ask you for a donation for theshiving they just gave you, but
you know, it blew me away.

Speaker 1 (52:10):
Or a donation to not get the shiv.

Speaker 3 (52:13):
No, no, no, no, you got the shiv and they took a
donation out of your pocket,typically these were probably,
like I would say, 4.

Speaker 4 (52:22):
Might be pretty early , but like 5, 6am in the morning
until 10, 11 in the morning.
So, they were doing the morningshift, but just the.
It was really just a cool thingthat I thought that you know
that the Department ofTransportation was permitting or
allowing or in conjunction withplace, you know, groups to make

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money.

Speaker 3 (52:44):
I wasn't going to mention this earlier because I
don't have all my facts straighton this.
The one reason you don't seefast food restaurants or coffee
shops in rest areas is becauseit's illegal the Department of
Transportation, when they fundrest areas on interstates, that
you cannot have commerce thereat the same time.
Now the reason you seerestaurants on I-80 or going

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through tollways is because theyare private tollways, and it's
a different story.
But rest areas cannot legallyhave—they have vending machines,
but they can't have commerce ina rest area on an interstate.
Well, tollways don't takefederal money.
That's the point.
That's how they fund, besidesthe tolls.
So it's a different story.

Speaker 4 (53:25):
Nice.

Speaker 1 (53:27):
I think I just see a perfect SNL skit or something.
They got the guys out there inthe trailer VFW save the
homeless, take care of our warveterans, get your coffee 50
cents.
And someone just walking bythem and the guy in the VFW
trailer just staring at him.
He goes over to the big coffeevending machine.

Speaker 4 (53:43):
Yes, swipes his credit card Right.

Speaker 1 (53:45):
Yeah, the cup, drops out, Fills it up, and then he
takes it, puts the lid on andjust walks by drinking the
coffee.

Speaker 4 (53:53):
And they're just like it would have been very cheap,
and I think they did things liketea, but they had all the
goodies to go with it, you know.

Speaker 5 (54:00):
Lipton Possibly Speaking of you know what would
be great?
Girl Scout cookies.
They'd sell a lot, they would.

Speaker 3 (54:10):
but again not allowed , I think some of them did do
like the.

Speaker 4 (54:14):
Do you remember the generic big bags of, like the
chocolate ones with the fillingor the vanilla ones?
They came in, they were kind offlowery-looking sandwich
cookies.
You probably got them at theDollar Tree.

Speaker 1 (54:28):
No, you had them at Vacation Bible School as a kid.

Speaker 4 (54:31):
Yes, just for the little flowery ones, they
weren't an Oreo.

Speaker 3 (54:34):
My favorite were the cream cheese and strawberry ones
.

Speaker 1 (54:38):
Yeah, yeah Again.

Speaker 6 (54:40):
Catholic, I didn't have vacation Bible school.
I didn't get those.

Speaker 3 (54:45):
Heathen didn't have vacation Bible school.

Speaker 1 (54:48):
Okay, I also had it at the Breck camp when I went to
Breck camp which is Baton Rouge, and so the park system.
It was Breck I don't know whatBaton Rouge Educational and
Calis Breck I don't know whatBaton Rouge Educational and Cal
State I have no idea what BreckState is for me, or they have us
as sticks.

Speaker 4 (55:07):
The wait for sticks.

Speaker 1 (55:09):
It is so funny that it's like Baton Rouge and
Louisiana.
You know it's such a, it's astate.
I love Louisiana, butpolitically it's a nightmare and
there's a lot of issues inlouisiana still, and we sit back
and we go, at least for a lot.
At least we're not mississippi,um, but that's really all we
can do.
Uh, but they do have um.

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Baton rouge has one of the bestpark systems in the nation and
they have one of the bestlibrary systems in the nation
it's like seriously how in theworld do we end up with this,
like people come in from allacross the country to study our
parks and library system andit's like how yes, we have the
best parks and we have the bestlibraries.

(55:52):
We have a failing educationsystem For Gulf Coast.

Speaker 5 (55:55):
South Louisiana.

Speaker 1 (55:57):
We have libraries and we have parks.
It's the craziest thing.

Speaker 4 (56:00):
You can read your books in the park, I guess, but
literacy is at the all-time low,wow.

Speaker 1 (56:05):
We've got some things to work on.

Speaker 4 (56:07):
Great stories tonight , y'all.

Speaker 1 (56:10):
It's been a lot of fun.
You know the past week's beencold, you think.

Speaker 4 (56:17):
It's on the cooler side, Vince.
How cold has it been?
What was the coldest you'veseen this week?

Speaker 3 (56:22):
Windchill.

Speaker 4 (56:22):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (56:23):
Negative 12.
Oof.

Speaker 4 (56:29):
What about heat wave Two?
It was two yesterday morning.
Saturday was 39.
Saturday.

Speaker 3 (56:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (56:35):
Saturday yeah, Saturday.

Speaker 4 (56:37):
We don't work, but we were out and about and it felt
like a heat wave.

Speaker 1 (56:41):
You want your weekends warm, it's true.

Speaker 3 (56:43):
You do want your weekends warm, when you can have
your free time.
Yeah, when you're staying inthe house.

Speaker 1 (56:48):
When you're staying in the house watching TV with a
fire going.
You want it to be warm outside.

Speaker 4 (56:53):
I was asked if I wanted to go on a motorcycle
ride Really.

Speaker 3 (57:02):
Had it not been raining, I might have considered
it.
Oh, if it had not been raining,I wouldn't have offered.
That was an offer that was madestrictly because I knew it
wasn't going to happen.

Speaker 1 (57:06):
You, never ask questions unless you know the
answers right, Exactly.
That's hysterical Now.
I woke up in Fort Wayne theother day and it was freaking
two degrees outside, I think.
I posted online.
I was like who can beat this?
And no one could.
I felt pretty good about thatNot going to lie.
Although I'm pretty sure Jerrywould have had he taken a
picture when he first got to theyard.

(57:27):
Yes, sir.

Speaker 3 (57:32):
This is very Louisiana-like.
Recreation and Park Commissionfor the Parish of East Baton
Rouge.
Breck in parentheses.
Wait, say it again.
Recreation and Park Commissionfor the Parish of East Baton
Rouge.
In parentheses, breck.

Speaker 1 (57:47):
So what does it stand for?

Speaker 5 (57:49):
I'm looking it up right now and I'm like this is
bad publicity.
I don't even know what the hellyou stand for.

Speaker 3 (57:56):
Don's fired Breckorg.
This is what Don sent me.
Don't fire him.
He sent me the information, hesent me their official website
Breckorg, and there is nothinghere that says anything.
That's the only thing I foundthat has what looks to be an
acronym it's Baton Rouge,something, something.

(58:17):
Economical community Recreationand Park Commission for the
Parish of East Baton Rouge.
Something, something.
Economical community Recreationand Park Commission for the
Parish of East Baton Rouge.
And just so you guys know whoare in Louisiana right now, all
the Breck facilities are closeddue to inclement weather yes,
they are.

Speaker 5 (58:30):
The whole Cajun country is closed.

Speaker 3 (58:32):
But this is what I'm seeing here.
It's all closed.
If you're going to go to NewOrleans, you're going to go to
anything in New Orleans.

Speaker 5 (58:39):
Put it off for two, three days, yeah.

Speaker 1 (58:42):
But, let's think about this for a second.
You know what Breck had growingup.
They had three things, threethings that I love.
They had the hamburger.
Do you remember the hamburger?
You crawl up the middle intothe two buns.
Oh, yeah, yeah, and then havelike a jail cell around it, and
then you would crawl through thegel cell and then get up on top

(59:03):
.

Speaker 3 (59:03):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (59:03):
And then sit up there and throw things at people yes,
until you ran out of things tothrow.

Speaker 3 (59:07):
And then you'd get back in the gel cell.
And then you'd get back in thegel cell, because you're a
little dorky and if you went, tosome of them Highfalutin.

Speaker 1 (59:17):
They also had that slide.
Do you remember the slide?
It was a curvy slide and it wasmade up of pieces of stainless
steel.
Ooh, that had the little ridgeevery couple of feet, and so
when you went down it was likeand in the summertime in South
Louisiana where it gets to beabout 110 degrees that would be

(59:38):
like 180.
Yeah, and you would just godown it and cry, oh, and be like
it hurts so bad, and then youwould go back and Do it again,
do it again.

Speaker 6 (59:47):
Yeah, you mastered that skill of like, if you had
shorts on, of holding your legsup.

Speaker 1 (59:52):
Oh my gosh, I can do this like a champ, that's all.
That's all Feet in the airgoing down a slide.

Speaker 4 (59:58):
Did you ever burn the rivets in the back of your leg?
I've done that before.

Speaker 1 (01:00:01):
Yes, yes, yes, oh.
The worst part was once youactually got you go through the
slide.
Then it comes out to thatlittle flat part and that's
where you stop and then it'slike, ah, fire.
Then you jump out.
Yeah, it's fun times.
I miss those days.
And number three thing BreBreck had that I love, and still
love to this day, is that theyhad Breck Summer Camp so you

(01:00:23):
could go and they did it allyear long.
You picked when you started,when you ended.
It was week-long deals.
Some kids went for the entiresummer, but my family loved me
so we only went for a week ortwo.
The summer camp was you go tothe park in the morning and they
had activities and things.
If the weather was inclement,we watched movies, uh, and then

(01:00:43):
we would do inside sports likebasketball or um, dodgeball
things, you know whatever,kickball, things like that.
And then, uh, during the day,at some point you would take a
field trip every single day.
And, as a kid, what's yourfavorite thing in the world to
do?

Speaker 4 (01:00:58):
field trip field trip .

Speaker 3 (01:00:59):
You just live for field trips.

Speaker 1 (01:01:01):
So sometimes the field trip was to the park up
off of I want to say Foster, butI could be wrong which was a
swimming pool.
And so you would go swimming,and then sometimes it was to the
bowling alley and sometimes itwas to the movie theater, and
sometimes it was to when elsedid we go, angola?

Speaker 5 (01:01:22):
No, never, they didn't take you there for a show
and tell no, they didn't do ascare.

Speaker 3 (01:01:26):
No, nothing like that , I think we did Putt-Putt once,
okay.
Did you ever do Go on the DarkPutt-Putt?

Speaker 1 (01:01:31):
We did the Celebration Station which was
the Putt-Putt and the Go-Karts.
Okay, included in your.
I was going to say fair, I'vebeen cruising a lot In your
brick.
No in your weekly.

Speaker 3 (01:01:43):
Camp dues Camp dues.

Speaker 1 (01:01:44):
Yeah, so I would usually go.
During the times when I wouldgo, I would usually go two weeks
in a row.
I remember there was one yearthat a friend of mine went one
week and then I went, or like hewent with me one week and then
I went, but I went two weeksanyways and it was great.
It was a really cool summerprogram.
I really really enjoyed it.
It was one of the few things Ican say as a kid that I liked,

(01:02:06):
but yeah, that was the threethings I loved from break.
Now is when I got older CityPark, nine-hole golf course.
I played golf in high schooland so for an hour and a half
every day got to jump on a busin the middle of school, go to
City Park and play golf Wow.
So this is a weird thing.

Speaker 5 (01:02:25):
Coming from my small hometown, we weren't used to
this sort of program, so thatmight be a good thing for people
to leave a comment about Ifthey grew up in a town that
provided this kind of children'ssocial activities events, I'm
sure LA.
County had stuff like that LACounty did have stuff like that.

Speaker 3 (01:02:45):
yes, so I lived across the street from a public
park across the street.
I was on a street that didn'tdead end.

Speaker 4 (01:02:55):
Caddy Corner.

Speaker 3 (01:02:56):
Caddy Corner and I was two houses down from the
corner across the main street,there was a county park Helen
Keller Park is the name of it.
They had a pool, I see, andthey had a rec center, basically
.
So during the summer we weresent off to swim lessons every
day.
Until you got to the pointwhere you were done with all the

(01:03:19):
swim lessons, you were on theswim team.
And when swim team season wasover.
You did rescue swim lessons,where they taught you to jump in
the pool fully clothed, takeyour clothes off and tie your
pants off as a flotation device.
That kind of stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:03:31):
People wonder why you're my lifeguard.
Yeah, there you go.

Speaker 3 (01:03:35):
And then they also had the free lunch program at
the park in the rec center andyou could play caroms and that
kind of stuff.
Play what Caroms, little boards, they were probably two feet by
two feet.

Speaker 4 (01:03:47):
Anybody know what those are?
Nope, there were wooden boardsLeave your comments.

Speaker 3 (01:03:51):
They had.
It was like doing a mazeBecause they had pieces on the
board itself.

Speaker 6 (01:03:58):
And you used a little pull stick.
No, you used a little pullitself and you used the little
pull stick.
No, you used the little pullstick.

Speaker 3 (01:04:02):
And you shot your little chip through the maze and
it caromed off the corners.
We called them caroms.

Speaker 4 (01:04:08):
Wow, I need to see a picture.

Speaker 5 (01:04:11):
I need a visual yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:04:13):
So we didn't have.
I'll text Don and see what hecan do for me.
We didn't have field tripsbecause we had everything there
in the park.
You know basketball courts.
I played baseball there when Iwas a kid.
You know all the fun stuff thata park would have.

Speaker 1 (01:04:30):
I get that.
Yeah, I was going to say.
The one thing that just came tomind is it was actually at
Breck, at summer camp, where Ilearned to play one of my
favorite card games of all timesGolf Spades.

Speaker 4 (01:04:45):
Oh fun.

Speaker 3 (01:04:47):
Well you are the.

Speaker 1 (01:04:47):
Nope, nope.
A trade that would, or a skillthat would, benefit me for more
years than I ever thought.
That might be the mostbeneficial thing I learned
growing up From Breck, from mostbeneficial thing I learned
growing up From Breck, fromBreck.

Speaker 4 (01:05:04):
I had the outdoors.

Speaker 1 (01:05:06):
We didn't have that.
It was hot.
If I lived up in pretty weatherI might would have too.

Speaker 4 (01:05:10):
I had horses.
That's completely different.
We'd go on horse rides.

Speaker 1 (01:05:14):
We didn't have horses .
Horses, that's rich people'sstuff.

Speaker 5 (01:05:20):
He lived in Baton Rouge.
He didn't have Cajun country.

Speaker 1 (01:05:23):
In South Louisiana.

Speaker 5 (01:05:24):
If you had a horse, you were rich Basically.

Speaker 1 (01:05:28):
We were definitely far from that, eric's, like I'd
love to defend this right now,but he's kind of spot on.
Jerry the people you knew withhorses, rich or not rich.

Speaker 2 (01:05:38):
I didn't see no horses.
Okay, that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:05:40):
I remember Garth Brooks had a song wild horses
keep dragging me away and I'mlike horses.
My sister, she was a Mel, whoyou work with every day, vince.

Speaker 3 (01:05:53):
What a pleasure to work with her too.

Speaker 1 (01:05:55):
Yes, she was a wrangler for the Girl Scouts of
America in South Louisiana andthat was how I knew horses was,
because she did that duringcollege.
Like outside of that, horsesit's crazy, isn't that weird,
how it's just, yeah, butalligators all the time you.

Speaker 4 (01:06:16):
No, I didn't wrangle alligators.
Why not?
I don't?

Speaker 1 (01:06:18):
wrangle them.
You just observe, no, noobserving.
We're not crocodile huntingCrikey no.

Speaker 4 (01:06:27):
No there's no alligators.
How many?
Swamps are there in Oregon, inthe Pacific Northwest.
Yes, we have ponds.
I don't know about swamps.

Speaker 1 (01:06:37):
That's hysterical.
That's hysterical.

Speaker 3 (01:06:42):
So I've described caramel a little weirdly.
It actually was like a tableand you had, like you played it
like pool, but it was just flatchips and I say chips like small
poker chip kind of things, okay, and you shot another chip into
it to try and get into thecorner.
I'll send a picture over toJerry so he can put it up here
and you guys can all see whatI'm talking about.

Speaker 4 (01:06:59):
So kind of like the ice shuffling game.
Why can't I think of whatthat's?

Speaker 3 (01:07:02):
called the ice shuffling.

Speaker 4 (01:07:03):
With the discs on the ice, oh my gosh Ice hockey no
with the big.

Speaker 3 (01:07:07):
Oh, kind of like no.

Speaker 4 (01:07:09):
Why can't I think of what that's called?

Speaker 1 (01:07:11):
They play in the Olympics.
They do, yes, curfling.

Speaker 3 (01:07:14):
Curling, but on a board no no More, like I
wouldn't call it curling.

Speaker 6 (01:07:19):
There's no maze in curling.

Speaker 3 (01:07:20):
I would say it's more like the maze I'm not finding
here.

Speaker 6 (01:07:23):
Oh, I see, I wouldn't say it was like curling.

Speaker 3 (01:07:24):
I'd say it's like billiards pool, except you had
the little, tiny little chips.
Okay, you were shooting thechips across the table.

Speaker 4 (01:07:33):
All right.

Speaker 3 (01:07:41):
Well, after hours we need to.
Sounds fascinating.
So, um hey, you asked.
You asked what my programs arelike at the county parks.
I did it's true, that soundsvery competitive too.

Speaker 4 (01:07:47):
If you want to get into it, you can talk about the
programs at the county jail too.

Speaker 1 (01:07:50):
I don't have anything there for you.
I'm sorry I don't either.
Just thought I'd throw it outthere.
Yeah, well, I appreciate it.
Well, it's been wonderfulhanging out with you all and
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