Why Flexible Hours, Smarter Drones, And Self-Driving Tests Could Reshape Trucking

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A dead fiber line, a panicked smart oven, and a workday ground to a halt—sometimes the little failures reveal how much our lives lean on invisible networks. We open with the chaos of connection loss and follow the thread into a much bigger story: drones washing concrete walls, spraying fields from mobile trailers, choreographing citywide light shows, and even navigating war zones with tethered fiber. The sky is getting crowded, and the rules are racing to keep up.

From there, we tackle a hot safety question: what happens when drones and small aircraft share airspace without universal ADS‑B? Spotting a Cessna is hard enough; spotting a palm‑sized quadcopter at 90 mph borders on impossible. We break down ADS‑B basics, right‑of‑way implications, and why any new policy has to reckon with human perception and worst‑case physics, not just ideal conditions.

On the ground, we switch to practical trucking. We share a clear, no‑nonsense walkthrough of CARB testing before entering California: dash lights that will fail you, the five warm‑up cycles that protect you, and the fine that makes cutting corners a terrible idea. Then we unpack the FMCSA pilot for more flexible hours—6/4 and 5/5 sleeper splits and pausing the 14‑hour clock—explaining how it can reduce pointless downtime at docks, sidestep rush‑hour traps, and give solo drivers more control without erasing safety.

Autonomy gets a reality check. Hands‑free driving in a new SUV looked brilliant in clean weather, then quietly bowed out when snow and heavy rain blocked sensors. That informs our take on “driverless” freight runs in Texas: long, straight interstates are perfect testbeds, but national scale requires robust redundancy, weather resilience, and honest plans for edge cases. The tech is promising; the safety case still needs daylight.

We close on heart: a 50th birthday, one last tutu, and the permission to stop a tradition when it’s served its purpose. It’s a reminder that change is constant—on the road, in the air, and in our lives—and that resilience is equal parts planning and courage. If this conversation sparked a thought, subscribe, share the show, and leave a review with your take on HOS flexibility and autonomous trucks. Your stories make this community smarter.

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SPEAKER_06 (00:00):
Oh, you gotta unmute it.
How do we start the show again?
Hey, everybody, welcome to theOuter Ballot.
I'm Patrick, and you all know myfriends.
Buttermilk.

SPEAKER_01 (00:19):
But we're friends now.

SPEAKER_03 (00:23):
Zucchini Brad?

SPEAKER_00 (00:25):
We were.
And Jerry.
And the old guy.

SPEAKER_06 (00:30):
Well, she just had a birthday.
She's the old guy.
Well, unless there's things thathave changed.

SPEAKER_02 (00:38):
Of course, we have uh You look like you're older
than me currently.

SPEAKER_06 (00:42):
Well, it's all the gray hair.
It's all the gray hair.
It's just it's it's you're goingfull down here even.

SPEAKER_00 (00:46):
I haven't shaved in a little bit, and Patrick says I
look old when I haven't shaved.
Oh my gosh, you do.
You look like Carl Winslow.

SPEAKER_06 (00:52):
Oh my gosh.
Am I allowed to say that or no?
Yeah, you can say that.
Actually, it's not Carl Winslow.
Uncle Phil.
Uncle Phil.
I used Uncle Phil a lot.
Oh that I never knew you backthen.
But yeah, I could see it.
Oh well.
So of course uh we're we'reblessed to have Chili here uh in

(01:13):
his house with us.
And yeah, um so it's been a hotminute.
We've had some crazy schedulingconflicts.
Ooh, crazy.
We've been out, you've been out,you've been out, you've been
here.
Um, and have you been here?

SPEAKER_02 (01:28):
You've been here the whole time.
It's everybody else that's beenout to be a little bit more than
a lot of people.

SPEAKER_06 (01:30):
I've been right here out everywhere.
Nowhere.
Well, he likes this internet.
We got this, this uh what is itcalled again?
Fiber.
Fiber, yes.
Oh, we lost our fiber.
I got an email from Suvi.
Do y'all know what Suvi is?
Mm-hmm.
So if you if you don't know,Suvi, S U V-I-E, Suvi is a uh
kitchen appliance that cost waytoo much money.

(01:51):
Um and it's uh basically atoaster oven.
Um but you could put your foodit's in in it when you leave in
the morning, and it's got arefrigerator, keeps it cold, and
then you can set the timer, oryou can actually do it from your
phone and say, okay, startcooking now.
And it'll be like, all right,you know, like it's what 30
minutes from the yard to myhouse.
Yeah, about that.

(02:11):
So I could say leaving the yard,all right, start cooking now,
get home, and then have afreshly cooked meal.
Um, but it's connected to theinternet, obviously, otherwise I
couldn't do that.
So I got a message while thispast weekend while we were out
of town going, um, your Suvie'sbeen disconnected from the
internet for three days.
Wow.
And I'm like, I hope we haven'tlost electricity.
Like, you know, I don't knowwhat the issue is, but we get

(02:34):
back and Eric, what was theissue?
Because you you were here whenthe uh when the when the guy
came from the uh internet uhmobility company.

SPEAKER_05 (02:40):
They've been doing construction off and on all over
the street in front of ourhouse.
And one they were investigatingsomething and opened one of the
metal compartment things in thefront yard, and when they closed
it, they ended up clipping theuh extranet or the fiber line.

SPEAKER_02 (02:57):
Wow.
Crazy.

SPEAKER_05 (02:59):
So we dealt without internet for two or three days
when we got back, and I waslucky I still have hair.
Oh man.
Oh my goodness.

SPEAKER_01 (03:06):
We actually should have said something you could
come to the house and use ourinternet.

SPEAKER_06 (03:09):
We thought about it.
We have blazing fast internet.
I think do we have the fastestinternet of the staff?
You do, I think.
Yeah, we do.
It's brand new.
We just got it.
It's not fiber, yes.
Like maybe six months ago.
It's we used to have basically astep above that you remember
DSL?
It was like that.
Um, and we just got this blazingfast, great fiber.
Love it.
Uh, highly recommend it.

(03:29):
Jerry, you should look into it.
And um, but but as soon as youas soon as it goes down, the
cell phone service here isabysmal.
It's horrible.
Like you'll get like a megabyteup, which how do you describe
how fast that is?

SPEAKER_07 (03:47):
Very slow, like barely able to load a web page.

SPEAKER_06 (03:50):
Yeah, it's crazy bad.
So, you know, for three days,Eric had to work in his office
on that and like do a documentand then save it to his desktop
and then upload it to the cloudlike at night so that it would
go through by the next morning.
It was crazy.
So there's two desks down below.

SPEAKER_01 (04:11):
I mean, you could just park in our driveway and
use the internet.

SPEAKER_06 (04:14):
Well, I I typically do that when I'm looking up
chloroform recipes.

SPEAKER_07 (04:18):
Um but you're not the only one I've had.

SPEAKER_02 (04:21):
Chloroform! You come to my driveway too for
chloroform recipes.

SPEAKER_01 (04:27):
So they probably think it's hard doing it.

SPEAKER_02 (04:29):
So I'm sorry, back to you.

SPEAKER_07 (04:32):
I was gonna say no, I've been having internet issues
as well.
Like we've had spectrum out upto the house like multiple times
and it's still dropping.
And it's so weird.
Like they said that the signalcoming in was too powerful.
And so they put a splitter on itto slow it down, which I get my
full speed that I'm paying for.
That's not the issue.
The issue is is it will workjust fine, and then all of a

(04:52):
sudden it'll just drop out andthen two minutes later come back
on.

SPEAKER_06 (04:56):
Well, that's because it went to the other side of the
splitter.
Probably.

SPEAKER_07 (04:58):
Yeah, so it worked like nothing's wrong.
It's your neighbor that'sstealing the internet off then,
right?
Do what?

SPEAKER_03 (05:04):
If you haven't saved, you could lose stuff
then.

SPEAKER_07 (05:06):
Yeah, and it's it's aggravating because they're
like, Well, we don't see anyissues, we don't have no problem
with it.
And then customer service istelling me, Oh, we see nothing
dropping on our end.
And then I hang up the phone,and five minutes later it drops,
and it's like, why wasn't I onthe phone when it did it?
Like, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (05:22):
Wow.

SPEAKER_01 (05:23):
We've had the kind of the opposite in the last
couple weeks.
Stellar internet.
Oh, I'll get a text message fromBreeze Line saying, We know
there's outage in your area, ourestimated time to have it back
up is this time.
And I'm like, Huh, I'm workingjust fine.
So I'm just not gonna sayanything, just let it work keep
on working.
Still downloading for a while.

SPEAKER_00 (05:40):
Hour later, you're back up.
Okay.

SPEAKER_06 (05:43):
Thank you.
And then they send Did theystill send you like the uh like
the five dollar discount on yourbill for the time it was out or
anything like that?
No.
Do you remember that happeningback in the day?
They used to do that.
If they had an outage in yourneighborhood, they'd be like,
oh, we're gonna compensate youthat$3.84.

SPEAKER_01 (05:59):
Well, HTT has been advertising somewhere, I don't
know where, probably in apodcast or something, that they
have the most of time, and ifyou're down for so much time on
a cell network, then they'llthey'll pay you or whatever.
If you're down for more time ona fiber network, they pay you.
I heard it's like seven days,right?
No, it was hours.
It was hours.
Yeah, but seven days makes sensetoo.

(06:19):
It does.

SPEAKER_07 (06:20):
It drives me insane because ATT fiber literally
stops like a half a block frommy house.

SPEAKER_00 (06:25):
Yeah, get yourself a spool of fiber.
I told him we could fix this.
Dig a line, yeah.
I know people.
We don't even gotta do that.
12 pack of beer.
We can get coax.

SPEAKER_06 (06:34):
Yeah, we could just get coax, we could put we could
put everything in the fire inthe plastic box right there, and
then just run the coax or theethernet back to your house.
I'm telling you.
And the best part about it, youain't gotta pay.

unknown (06:45):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 (06:47):
Guys, they are all joking so you know.
Yes, because ATT is gonna godown in a couple days, and then
we're gonna be like introduced.

SPEAKER_06 (06:54):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (06:54):
No, it's not us.
We're joking.
We are completely joking.

SPEAKER_06 (06:57):
Yeah, and we don't advocate, you know, using uh
fiber internet while you'redriving one of our trucks.
It gets uh hairy.
It does get hairy.

SPEAKER_02 (07:07):
Might end up in a rat's nest.

SPEAKER_06 (07:09):
Oh, yeah.
That can you imagine?
Like just you make a left turnand you just take out all the
traffic next to you break beforethen, right?

SPEAKER_00 (07:18):
How strong is glass?
It's pretty fine, it's prettyfast.

SPEAKER_01 (07:22):
It's pretty strong.
Yeah.
Have you not seen the newsrecently of what's going on over
in the um the Balkan territorieswith Russia and Ukraine?

SPEAKER_02 (07:30):
I thought you said Vulcan.
I'm like, oh, we're in StarOptical.

SPEAKER_06 (07:33):
I did hear that like right now, I don't think Ukraine
and Russia are getting along.

SPEAKER_01 (07:38):
They're not getting along.
Okay.
And so they're using drones.
As one does.
And they're now blocking thesignal to drones.
Oh.
To get around the signalblocking, they're using fiber
optic control drones, where thedrones actually have a really,
really, really, really multiplythat by 50, long fiber optic

(08:01):
cable that's physicallyconnected to them.

SPEAKER_06 (08:04):
So it's like it's like you went to Radio Shack in
1992.
Right.
And around Christmas time,before Christmas, and they had
the remote control Corvette.
Yes.
And it had the cable connectedto it.
Yes.
And it would go straightforward, and then if you did
reverse, it turned.

SPEAKER_01 (08:22):
Yes, exactly.
And then you would reverse toturn the way you wanted it.
Yes, exactly.
Boy, that would be annoying withthe drone.
So they've shown pictures of thereversing and turn and then
going straight.
And the forest and and and roadscovered literally in thousands
of fiber optic cables.
Wow.
So if you're curious why fiberjust went raised as expensive.

SPEAKER_02 (08:43):
That's interesting warfare.

SPEAKER_06 (08:45):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (08:45):
I mean, like in 20, 30 years, we've gone from
whatever to fiber optics allover the floors floor.
We'll see.
It seems kind of I mean, wow,just wow.

SPEAKER_06 (08:56):
Very similar but different.
Very similar but different.
Yeah.
In South Louisiana, uh, in BatonRouge, uh, when I was in high
school, I think they've alwaysbeen there, right, Eric?
Um, since you've lived there.
In high school, on theinterstate, they have these
giant concrete uh sound umwalls.

(09:16):
Do you know what I'm talkingabout?
Uh going down the interstate.
Do you know what I'm talkingabout?
Yeah.
Have those always been there?

SPEAKER_05 (09:22):
As far as I live there.

SPEAKER_06 (09:23):
Okay.
So when I was in like middleschool or high school, they were
actually building those.
Um and it was really cool howthey do it because they're
concrete, and they would justpost two concrete uh posts that
were actually like they looklike almost like uh I-beams.
Like I beams, yeah.
Yeah, and they would slid likeeach little concrete plank down,
and then the very top of themhad this very ornate uh pelican

(09:44):
thing.
It was it's really cool.
What they weren't thinking aboutwas the fact that things uh mold
and mildew in Louisiana in about12 minutes.
And so um and vines growing.
And vines grow very fast.
Oh, vines love concretestructures, and so uh that was
all completely hidden within ayear of them putting it in.
But when it was brand new, itlooked gorgeous.
It was like, wow, Louisiana gotsomething this nice.

(10:06):
It was very cool.
So I just saw they are nowhired, I've hired a company.
They've hired a company thatuses drones to power wash these
walls.
So you see the drones and theyhave like just hoses, garden
hoses, green hose, you know,with the yellow stripe uh up to

(10:27):
the drone, and they're justpressure washing the walls.
And I'm like, how powerful arethese drones getting?
No.
Because the ones I've seen areare a little frail.
Right.
These are like military.
Do they have a surplus?

SPEAKER_02 (10:39):
No, they're two inches.
They're probably they look likea riding lawnmower with like
bigger that width circumference.
I the size.
I've seen they're not as big asa riding, but if you're like
aerial looking at a riding, youknow what I'm talking about.
The size of a seat.
No, the entire including theblade underneath a big, huge
industrial.

SPEAKER_01 (10:58):
They're large.
Would you say like like threefoot by four foot?
Something like that.
Something like that.
I've seen where they're usingdrones for um uh spraying
fields.
Like what's worth what do theydo with with full of crop
dusting?
Thank you.
They're using drones as cropdusting.
Okay.
So they've got a 53-foot trailerbasically.
Full of Taco Bell.
And they set up on top.
No, it's got it's got well TacoBell uh Diablo sauce.

(11:20):
Diablo sauce, as one does.
Exactly.
As one does.
And they they set up uh on topof it, they get to the field,
they sit up on top of it with aworkstation in the middle, a
drone on each side.
Uh-huh.
And when the drone is the tank,and they they have the
chemicals.
So they have a tank on it.
They have a tank, multipletanks, two tanks, I think, on
each one.
Okay.
For weight balance.
They the drone goes out andsprays.
It's on a it's on a pre-plantscheduled plan.

(11:41):
Yeah.
Um, when it comes back to refillthe tanks, there's two guys up
there, one has each side.
They go, they swap thebatteries, they plug in the hose
for the tank, the drone fillsup, they disconnect the hose, it
goes out and does its thing.
They're huge, like you said.

SPEAKER_06 (11:53):
That sounds huge.
Sounds a lot like what your dadused to do with the helicopters
back in the day.
Because he said, if I'm notmistaken, he was on top of the
tanker, and a helicopter wouldcome and literally just
brrrrrite next to the tanker.
He'd fill the helicopter up withuh the fuel, whatever they were.
Not fuel, but crop dust, sure,whatever material Diablo sauce.

(12:13):
Diablo sauce.
And then uh they would run itout into the field and they
would do their crop dusting asone does, and then they would
come right back and um he wouldtop them off again.
So they didn't have to like itwasn't like uh around here they
have like real crop dusters, theairplanes, and they have to come
and they have to stop and theyhave to do the thing, and then
it takes a whole lot of time.
This was like super fast.

SPEAKER_02 (12:34):
Interesting.

SPEAKER_06 (12:34):
Yep, pretty cool.

SPEAKER_02 (12:36):
Um I just swear the drones are going, it's pretty
crazy.

SPEAKER_07 (12:39):
And Dallas is now using Amazon and Walmart for
deliveries.
Really?
They're using drones.

SPEAKER_05 (12:44):
I have more drone thoughts, but Eric.
Doesn't take as much energy, butthey're also using uh drones for
a hybrid fireworks show, droneshows.
Yes.
King's I don't know how muchpower uh fireworks shoots off.
Oh my gosh, in the oppositedirection.

SPEAKER_02 (13:01):
I never thought about that.
Well, we just watched it in inParis to some degree, and I
guess I never thought about it.

SPEAKER_06 (13:09):
I believe the degree was 90.
We were 90 degrees, so it justlooked like a solid line.
We saw the profile of it.

SPEAKER_02 (13:16):
We didn't see the weren't at the right angle for
the fancy.

SPEAKER_06 (13:20):
They didn't pay enough for the 3D show.
They did not.
But what a nightmare if you'retalking about something uh we
talked about this a coupleepisodes ago, so I won't get too
much into it, but what anightmare like when you have a
show that big where it's likeplease, everybody?
Yeah, what what you okay?
So um we'd like to put to we'dlike to put together the drone
show for you.
Where would you like it to beseen?

SPEAKER_02 (13:39):
All over the city.

SPEAKER_06 (13:41):
A hundred square miles.

SPEAKER_02 (13:42):
In any direction.

SPEAKER_06 (13:44):
In any yes.
Yes.
Oh, and don't mess with theplanes flying into uh any of the
three airports.
Yeah, exactly.
Exactly.
Uh yeah, what a nightmare.
Uh, but it was uh it was verycool.
We saw it also in um oh, thatwas just you and I that saw it.
In uh in Cincinnati last yearfor the preliminary fest.

(14:06):
Yeah.
Did y'all see the drone showtoo?

SPEAKER_02 (14:08):
No, we didn't go through this.

SPEAKER_05 (14:09):
So we okay it was just you and I.

SPEAKER_06 (14:11):
Yes.
So I was excited.
I thought this was gonna be anannual tradition.
We're gonna go to this thing,it's gonna be great.
This year we're gonna bring Donand Jerry, next year we'll bring
Heather and um whatever.
And uh Heather Multiple.
Did you miss it this year?
Heather Musolee.
No, they only do it every otheryear.

SPEAKER_02 (14:26):
Oh, really?
So it's a pretty big event.

SPEAKER_06 (14:28):
It was a huge event.

SPEAKER_02 (14:30):
So next year.

SPEAKER_06 (14:31):
So next year.
So next year is all right.

SPEAKER_02 (14:34):
So next year we just have to bring everybody open
invitations.

SPEAKER_06 (14:37):
2034, I think, is your year.
Um it's gonna be a little bit,but uh yeah.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (14:43):
Interesting.

SPEAKER_06 (14:44):
No, it's it was that was a cool event.
But yeah, so I I do like thosedrone things.
Uh, Eric was talking about um uhwe should buy some of those and
do them ourselves, and I'm like,yeah, but to buy some of those,
you need like 300.
What's a drone called thesedays?
I haven't priced one lately.

SPEAKER_05 (14:59):
Oh, the name of the festival is called Blink
Cincinnati.
Yes, Blink, that's it.
Yes.

SPEAKER_07 (15:04):
To do that type of stuff, I have no idea.
What's what's just our uh DJI?

SPEAKER_03 (15:09):
It's like round one or two.

SPEAKER_07 (15:10):
I mean you can get like the little small ones now
for you know like four or sixhundred bucks.
So what's 600 times 300?

SPEAKER_03 (15:16):
No, for pizza 18 and four zeros.

SPEAKER_06 (15:20):
$180,000?

SPEAKER_02 (15:22):
So uh and you're gonna and then you have to
synchronize it.

SPEAKER_00 (15:26):
That's all computer programming.

SPEAKER_02 (15:28):
Yeah, yeah.
Well, Jerry can figure that out.

SPEAKER_06 (15:31):
I'm volunteering.
I'm volunteering.
You have to be you have to beyou have to be creative to do
that job.

SPEAKER_05 (15:36):
Yes, sir.
Oh, I'd love to get in withprogramming of drones.
Also, I'm looking at theirwebsite.
Blink is 2026, October 8ththrough 11th.
So pretty much a year from now.

SPEAKER_06 (15:46):
Yep.
Cool.

SPEAKER_05 (15:47):
I'll mark my calendar.
We need to get our hot our newhotel.

SPEAKER_06 (15:50):
You might find that you have something on your
calendar already.
That would be fun.

SPEAKER_02 (15:53):
Every other year.

SPEAKER_06 (15:53):
Yes.
And did we were we oh we weredown there for your for that,
weren't we?
That's the whole reason we went.

SPEAKER_01 (15:59):
Two weeks before.

SPEAKER_06 (15:59):
Okay.

SPEAKER_01 (16:00):
The week before something we were done for her
birthday.

SPEAKER_06 (16:02):
But they it was already, it was they were
starting to put it out.
They were on rooftops and yeah,yeah.
Yeah, that was pretty crazy.
Crazy time.
So yeah, I like new traditions.
Uh then we have to do some ofthe off-years.

SPEAKER_02 (16:15):
Yeah, that's not gonna be hard to do.

SPEAKER_06 (16:17):
Paris.
There you go.
There you go.

SPEAKER_02 (16:20):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 (16:21):
I think it's very cool what they're doing with
these.
I I will say this.
So there's a there's an articleI read and I don't have it
pulled up, and I do apologize.
Uh, but there is a new uh rulingthat the uh FAA is trying to
push through right now, andthey're they're talking about
it.
So I don't uh push through isnot the right word.
They're discussing it.
And they are saying that dronesuh now will have right-of-way

(16:44):
against airplanes that do nothave ADSB out.
So what ADSB out is uh wheneveryou're applying in controlled
airspace, so like you're next toa major airport or you're above
18,000 feet, or um even likesome of your smaller minor
airports, like the one near usis OSU's airport, Ohio State

(17:05):
University's airport.
It's pretty small.
They only bring in small, tinyairplanes.
Um but it has an airspace thatcovers uh like five miles
around.

SPEAKER_02 (17:15):
Wow.

SPEAKER_06 (17:15):
Um and so in those areas you have to have this ADSB
out.
It's it's what tells the thecontrol tower uh how uh who you
are, how fast you're going, whatdirection you're going, how high
off the ground you are.
So it gives it a lot ofinformation and and keeps
everybody safe, right?
They can see all of your planes.
Um but when you're out in thesticks and at really tiny

(17:37):
airports, you don't have to havethat.
The the FAA has said, you knowwhat, you don't have to have
that.
Literally just looking out andwatching and making radio calls
is good enough.
Um because there's not nearly asmany.
You think, oh, that's crazy.
Kind of is, but there's just notthat many airplanes flying.

SPEAKER_02 (17:52):
Sure.

SPEAKER_06 (17:52):
So you can pretty well watch each other and know,
you know, uh whether or not youare gonna hit someone.

SPEAKER_03 (17:58):
And if you are, there's you get to the four away
in the sky, and you get rightaway there's right away or the
poster's coming in and doesn'ttell everybody that the you know
charter planes are coming in.

SPEAKER_06 (18:08):
That exact thing.
So um they are now saying sothose airplanes that don't have
ADSB out that are flying inthose areas, a drone has
priority over you.
So that means guys coming intoland at a small airport, he
doesn't have ADSB out, whichmeans he doesn't have any ADSB

(18:29):
in, so he can't see it.
And I'm telling you right now,seeing a airplane when you're
flying, like a Cessna, which hasa 35 foot wingspan.
It's you know, like a Cessna,little bitty tiny airplane, it's
huge.
It's big, it's bigger than yourany of your in our vehicles, any
of our commercial trucks.
They're huge.
Um, seeing one of those is veryhard.

(18:50):
Like you have to train yourselfto to it's literally part of the
private pilot curriculum islearning how to spot airplanes.
Wow, it's that important.
That's super difficult.
But now they're gonna have tokeep an eye out for how big is
the smallest drone?

unknown (19:04):
Wow.

SPEAKER_07 (19:05):
Teeny.
Yeah, teeny lights fit in yourpalm of your hand.

SPEAKER_06 (19:08):
Okay.
And you think about like birdstrikes, which are small
animals, birds are not done,they don't have dense bones,
they have very, very lightlittle bones, they can take
planes out of the sky.

SPEAKER_02 (19:19):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 (19:19):
So now you've got drones that you've got to keep
an eye out for that you there'sa good chance you won't even be
able to see it until you're onit.
And when you're moving 80, 90miles an hour.

SPEAKER_03 (19:30):
You don't have time to move.

SPEAKER_06 (19:31):
Yeah, you you're on it before by the time you see
it, it's like it's too like.
Are they talking specific sizedrones or types of drones?

SPEAKER_01 (19:38):
Like commercial drones?

SPEAKER_06 (19:39):
I think there is some rulings on it on on size,
but uh again, I don't have thearticle pulled up, but from what
I could tell, it is just aconversation.
I think it's like yourcommercial drone operators have
like if they're with the drone,they have a license that they
take priority over.

SPEAKER_01 (19:55):
Now I'm sure there's also non-ADBS plus planes.
Correct.
Are those drones incommunication with the tower?
Well, those airports don't havetowers usually.
Okay, or do those drones haveADBS plus?
I guess they don't need tobecause the tower doesn't,
there's no tower.
Exactly, so it's not required.

SPEAKER_06 (20:09):
Now, that being said, so the airplane I fly has
ADSB out all the time.

SPEAKER_01 (20:14):
Okay.

SPEAKER_06 (20:14):
So when I'm flying in, I have priority over that
drone.
Gotcha.
But if you're in a like we haveone A no tower zone doesn't
really matter, does it?
Well, again, I still havepriority, so if I hit it and it
takes me down or just hurts myairplane, that person's in
trouble.

SPEAKER_02 (20:30):
I see.
So they're doing priority forthe end result of that possible
accident.
Yes.

SPEAKER_06 (20:36):
And so so at OSU, we have a airplane in the airport.
It's really cool.
If you ever get a chance towalk, you can go there, it's
free.
Um, inside the airport, theyhave a uh a piper cub from 1940.
It's beautifully restored.
It's gorgeous, flying from theceiling.
It's a beautiful airplane.
That thing doesn't even have abattery in it.
Like, if it were to take offfrom OSU, there are there's uh

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special uh permission they haveto get.
They would communicate with thetower with a light gun signal.
Like, it is a big deal.
That airplane, as cool as it is,really can't fly in and out of
our airport.
But those exist all over Americaand people fly those.
There's Piper Cub uh clubs allover the place that that fly
exclusively those.
Those don't have ADSP, theydon't have a battery.

(21:19):
Like, those guys are strictlynavigating off of a paper uh
map, uh chart, and visiblevisibly what can they see in the
ground?
Wow.
So those are the guys that aregonna hit those drones and
stuff.
So they're talking about it.
I'm really hoping this thatenough people push back and say
we don't like this idea thatthis rule goes away.

(21:40):
But since we're talking aboutdrones, I just want to mention
it that it's it's in discussionsright now.
So we'll see.

SPEAKER_05 (21:46):
I don't see I could be responsible for paying
attention to something like yousaid, is so small you can't even
see it.
That's like you trying to watchout for birds while you're
driving.

SPEAKER_06 (21:57):
Well, even when you're so even when you're
flying, so birds instinctivelyknow that if if they see an
airplane and they're like comingtowards an airplane, a a bird
will dive.
It just always does.
So when you're taking off andit's like, oh crap, there's a
bird in front of me, you don'tdo anything.
The bird will actually dive.
It happens every time.
They just know they just know,right?

SPEAKER_01 (22:18):
Well, they're tough that, you know, it's like baby
birding, mommy baby birdingthem.
Kicking them out of the nest andthey dive.
Exactly.

SPEAKER_06 (22:24):
She's teaching them, which watch out for your flags.
Yeah, or eagles or somethingelse that might decide to make
you supper.
And uh so they will dive, whichis cool.
Um, that's why you don't havemany bird strikes.
They are relatively rare.
Um, and a lot of times they dohappen.
They are And they're probably ingroups.
They were with in groups, orthey were actually in a dive and

(22:44):
they just didn't dive fastenough.
So uh, or on a runway, that'sanother place you get them a lot
of times.
It's like you're coming intoland and they're they see you,
so they fly away, and you know,you're going 80 knots, which is
95 miles an hour, and they'regoing six.

SPEAKER_05 (22:59):
It's just not an extra FYI.
Uh ATSB stands for automaticdependent surveillance
broadcast.

SPEAKER_01 (23:08):
Yes.
Hey Jerry.
Yes.
I got a truck needs to go toCalifornia, and their carb test
is out of date.
Oh, what's a carb test?

SPEAKER_07 (23:17):
OTR services.

SPEAKER_03 (23:18):
OTR services.

SPEAKER_07 (23:20):
Columbus, Ohio.
Check us out atOTR-services.com.

SPEAKER_06 (23:24):
So if I'm in Memphis and I gotta go to California.
Don't call us.

SPEAKER_03 (23:30):
Unless you're somehow coming through.

SPEAKER_06 (23:33):
Well, that's what I was gonna say.
The load picks up in uh uhwhat's that place called?
Lockbourne.
Lockbourne.

SPEAKER_07 (23:42):
If if you can get close to the Columbus area, then
we will come out and meet youand uh take care of all your
carb needs.

SPEAKER_06 (23:48):
What if I need to go to like Walmart and get some
groceries for the truck?
Would you meet me there?

SPEAKER_07 (23:53):
Yeah, we uh actually have one that we're meeting
tomorrow.

SPEAKER_02 (23:56):
We trade carb for carb though, if you go to
Walmart.
Sorry.
Sorry.
Think about it.
If you're going to Walmart to gogrocery shopping, you're
probably getting carbs.

SPEAKER_06 (24:08):
Yes, true.

SPEAKER_02 (24:08):
So we'll trade our carb for one of your carbs.

SPEAKER_06 (24:11):
Nice, nice carb for carbs.
Let me ask you, okay, one moretime.
My uh then being for real, mytruck, it's a great truck, I
love it to death.
Uh does have a weird thing wherethe mill lights on, but it
doesn't affect the way itdrives.
It's seems perfectly fine.
That's not gonna be an issue, isit?

SPEAKER_07 (24:28):
It is gonna be a huge issue.
Uh your tests will fail.
So make sure you take care ofany lights on your dash before
you call us.
And if you do have a lightturned out, make sure you're
doing five warm-up cycles, whichconsist of cold engine warming
it all the way up and cooling itcompletely back down five times
before you call us.

SPEAKER_06 (24:48):
So, okay.
I have a I have a way to fix thelight on our I get a little
black electrical tank.
It it it all the DOTinspections, they none of them
catch it.
That's that's fine, right?

SPEAKER_07 (25:01):
It is not.
Um now I will tell you, you'remore than happy to call us and
we'll come out and test it foryou, but you're gonna fail.
There's no refunds.

SPEAKER_02 (25:10):
Oh.
It's like it's like slugbug.

SPEAKER_03 (25:14):
Slugbuggle.
A budget refund does not makethe electrical problem go away.

SPEAKER_06 (25:19):
Okay, so the five warm if I if I go if I go to uh
uh like the Freightlinerdealership here or the Kilmer
dealership here, and I get uhthe the mill light fixed, right,
and that's good to go.
Uh I can just do I need to dothe five warm-up cycles or no?
It's fine from there.

SPEAKER_07 (25:32):
You do need to do the five warm-up cycles.
Okay.

SPEAKER_06 (25:35):
All right.

SPEAKER_07 (25:37):
There is also a mileage requirement that you can
do, um, but we have found thatthat's actually not working out
the way the state of Californiasays.
So it's best to be on the safeside and err on side of caution,
do the five warm-up cycles.

SPEAKER_02 (25:51):
Right, that makes sense.

SPEAKER_06 (25:52):
And it's the right time of the year because I can
turn my engine off and I don'tneed the APU.
It's not too hot.
It's nice weather windows.
Yeah, it's nice weather.

SPEAKER_02 (25:59):
So you can't even run the APU?
No.

SPEAKER_07 (26:01):
No, if it's connected to the engine like our
trucks.

SPEAKER_02 (26:04):
Okay.

SPEAKER_07 (26:06):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (26:06):
Duly noted.
That's important on my warm-upcycle.

SPEAKER_06 (26:09):
It is.
It is.
It is.

SPEAKER_02 (26:11):
It'll be nice because if I'm having a hot
flash, I might want that rooftopAC.

SPEAKER_06 (26:15):
That's when you go to Walmart.

SPEAKER_07 (26:17):
Cherry, how long does it take to do one of these
tests?
It takes more time to put theinformation into the computer.
The whole test takes a minute.

SPEAKER_05 (26:26):
So literally you could have them hook up and
they'd be done before you couldget your groceries and be back
out.

SPEAKER_07 (26:32):
Yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_01 (26:33):
Does the tester have to drive the truck to do the
test?

SPEAKER_07 (26:35):
No.
Yeah.
No.

SPEAKER_01 (26:37):
All right.

SPEAKER_07 (26:38):
We we we do not enter your vehicle.
We stay on the outside theentire time.
We will ask you to start thetruck, but other than that,
that's it.

SPEAKER_06 (26:45):
You need to get the the the door open, right?

unknown (26:47):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 (26:48):
Because you have the little device.
We have to plug into the OBDport.
OBD port.
That's that little green portunder the engine we've never
used.
Oh, it is black on the sample?
Ours are all green.
Peter Bills?
Ours are all green.
We don't have Peter Bills.

SPEAKER_01 (27:02):
What we see on the on the outside on trucks with
Samsara is actually blackbecause that's the splitter that
comes from the Samsara.

SPEAKER_00 (27:09):
Okay.

SPEAKER_01 (27:11):
But it the one that comes with the truck, well,
trucks is green, yes.
But we might see a black one.

SPEAKER_06 (27:18):
So clearly I don't uh I don't test these very
often.
And by often, I mean ever.
Ever.
Uh well, very cool.
Uh well, I want to thank uh OTRServices.
Uh again, if I do want to signup and get that carb test done
because I want to go toCalifornia, I don't want to get
in trouble because it's a crazyfine out there, right?
It's like uh 800 bucks,something like that if I get
busted.

SPEAKER_02 (27:37):
Is it really?

SPEAKER_07 (27:38):
It's actually 10,000.

SPEAKER_02 (27:40):
Is it really monopoly money?

SPEAKER_06 (27:44):
That's they look the same.
That's crazy.
That's absolutely insane.
So it makes sense to go aheadand get it done.
Be out there, be safe, be legal.

SPEAKER_07 (27:51):
Absolutely.

SPEAKER_06 (27:52):
Yeah, and I've actually heard y'all talking
quite a few times.
Uh the care motor carriers, alot of them are starting to
require people to have those nowbecause they're catching wind of
it.

SPEAKER_07 (28:00):
Tons of calls right now from surprisingly, I I'm
assuming they do a lot ofindependent contractor type
model or stuff, but a lot ofAmazon.

SPEAKER_06 (28:07):
Oh, yes.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Amazon's mostly so Amazon didn'thave their own authority, so
they're all independent.
Yeah.
Wow.

SPEAKER_07 (28:14):
And we get a lot of calls from dispatchers.
Like I can hear our other peopletalking in the background, and
they're like asking questions,and how can they get the truck
near us?
And wow.

SPEAKER_02 (28:24):
That's pretty cool.

SPEAKER_06 (28:25):
That's crazy.
Well, I'm glad this uh serviceexists, and and honestly, for
the cost, it's it's minimal tobe safe.
And then it's good for uh sixmonths right now.

SPEAKER_07 (28:34):
Yeah, right now it's twice a year every six months,
and then in 2027 it is going tofour times a year.
Okay.
Of course, that is dependentupon any current legislation
that is going on right now.

SPEAKER_06 (28:45):
Yeah.
Well, I think anything intransportation right now is uh
up for up for grabs.
Like we could say the uh theadministration is a is uh doing
all kinds of weird, interestingthings with the uh with it,
including uh an article I justread uh like a week ago, and I
thought it was interesting.
I wanted to bring it up becauseit this comes up all the time.

(29:08):
So um I think uh Chili andMelissa, Jerry, y'all were
mentors for uh high fieldtrucking at one point, were you
not?

SPEAKER_07 (29:17):
Yes.

SPEAKER_06 (29:18):
A lot of people that come into driving and they know
that team driving and we'regonna work, uh, me and my
husband or me and my partner aregonna work together, right?
And we're gonna drive down theroad.
So like I'm gonna do like, Idon't know, four or five hours,
because we do on our normalfamily trips, and then he's
gonna take over and drive fouror five hours, or she is four or
five hours, and then I'm gonnatake over, you know, after I've
caught a kidnap and and and go.

(29:39):
Like, have y'all heard thatbefore?
Because I've gotten thatfeedback and I've not been a
mentor.
Oh I've heard that before.
Yeah.
Is that it and and then how uhupset are they when you crush
their dreams?

SPEAKER_02 (29:51):
That you have to do a long stretch?

SPEAKER_06 (29:52):
Do a long stretch.
Like ten hours at a minimum.
At a minimum.

SPEAKER_07 (29:58):
You can do eight two slip.

SPEAKER_06 (30:00):
You do a that's complicated.

SPEAKER_02 (30:02):
It's complicated.
It is, but you could do it.
You could compare it.

SPEAKER_06 (30:04):
It depends on the carrier.
So uh we work with severalcarriers, not every carrier
allows it.

SPEAKER_02 (30:09):
Also, it's confusing to green teams.
So let's keep it very basic.
That's the way Vince and I kindof I agree.

SPEAKER_07 (30:15):
I hate it.
I absolutely hate it.
I actually did a video on XplareBoogie back whenever I was out
on the road because we had a runthat required us to do that, and
I hated it the entire timeacross the country.

SPEAKER_06 (30:26):
Eric and I did explosives a lot.
So we did uh back when we weredriving, so we did A2 splits
quite often.
And I remember there was onetime we got a basic uh surface
expedite, which doesn't evenexist anymore.
Uh that the whole that wholebrand of FedEx didn't even exist
anymore.
Got a basic surface expedite.
This means like we picked uplawn furniture and had to bring
it across the country.
It was super easy, and we werelike, we get to do a normal

(30:50):
shift.
Like it was like, oh my gosh, weget a break.
It was like it's like luxurious.
Like, oh my gosh, I get to sleepfor like because I'm gonna say
sleep for 10 hours, but I thinkif you've been in the back of a
truck, you know you don't sleepfor 10 hours.

SPEAKER_02 (31:05):
No, but it may be a good eight, eight, yes, exactly.

SPEAKER_06 (31:07):
Like you actually, oh, I'm of us it was only five.
It's well, yeah, exactly.
It depends uh so for me, it wasuh the first night, because it
took my body a little while toget used to it.
First night on the road, two orthree hours sleep, second night
on the road, might squeeze infour, might it over 12 hours, I
might get four hours of sleepin.
And then by night three, I wasso done, I would get my like

(31:31):
eight or nine hours of justyeah, beautiful sleep.
But it it took me getting usedto driving or getting I guess
that worn out, and then once Igot on that schedule, I was
good.

SPEAKER_02 (31:43):
Yeah, I get it.

SPEAKER_06 (31:44):
But coming back from home time, it was always a
three-day always.

SPEAKER_02 (31:47):
Definitely from home time.
Yeah, it was three days fromhome time.

SPEAKER_06 (31:49):
Uh I agree.

SPEAKER_02 (31:50):
So this new thing?

SPEAKER_06 (31:52):
So this new thing that they are uh the FMCSA is
piloting, uh doing a pilotprogram with a few carriers.
We are not uh one of them.
Um, but they are actually givingum they have a couple different
programs.
So one of them is they areallowing truckers to split their
10-hour off-duty period intomore flexible combinations,
including a six out of six,four, so six hours on, four

(32:13):
hours off, or a five and five.
So five hours on, five hoursoff.
The other one is that uh they'reallowing um truckers to pause
the 14-hour on-duty period forno less than 30 minutes and no
more than three hours.
So they're giving them theopportunity to go like, all
right, we're gonna pause this sothat you're your 14-hour on

(32:34):
duty, so that you can take arest break, and then you can go
back on duty and finish your 14hours.
The cool thing about this,because it sounds like, well, it
just sounds like they're tryingto make them work more.
I I understand that, but whatthey're actually trying to do is
you get to a delivery, yourdelivery won't take you for two
hours.
You can actually put your youryour on-duty cycle on pause, go

(32:57):
chill out, get in the sleeper,take a nap, fix dinner, whatever
you want to do, you have twohours off, and then you can go
in there and pick up and do itagain.
Whereas right now, if you'redoing that and you're
approaching your 14 hour, thatclock just keeps on ticking.
And so if in two hours you'reover your 14 hour tough, you
gotta wait 10 hours and then youcan make your delivery.

(33:17):
Yeah.
So that really hurts a lot oftruckers.
So it's very cool to see um themkind of pull all this together.
Now, granted, in that secondexample, we're a team operation,
so if I can't do it, then mypartner can.
Sure.
It's not a big deal.
But for solo drivers, it's huge.
It's huge.

(33:37):
Being able to have thatflexibility.
Um, Vince, you did solo for alittle while, right?
I did.
Were there ever times where thatwould have been advantageous to
you at the end of so far?

SPEAKER_01 (33:50):
And you can't make any money because you just money
because you you gotta sit for 10hours so you can do something
else.
Yeah.
So it it really did hurt a lotof times.

SPEAKER_05 (33:58):
Especially when you run out of hours while you're at
the dock of a one dock business.

SPEAKER_06 (34:03):
We've had so we've had situations where teams uh
like one of them's been off theroad uh while the other one's
still driving.
So we don't really like it, butit does happen, especially when
you have like someone has ahealth issue, they need to go to
the doctor.
We had a team, one of them um uhgot hurt on the truck, um and

(34:29):
they went home and recovered.
And while they're recovering,their teammate kept driving, and
then once he was fullyrecovered, he got back on the
truck.
It was cool.
But that those kind ofsituations do come up.
Uh sometimes people got to takecare of kids and loved ones.
It it happens.
So if it's limited time, wegenerally allow it.
And we have had a few situationswhen that's happened where a t a

(34:51):
solo runs alone through thenight, gets there, can't make
the delivery, and and uh Pantheror FedEx are obligated to make
those deliveries, and so they'llactually send a tow truck out.
The tow truck will pick up thetruck, bring it over to the
dock, drop the truck, let it doits delivery, tow it back to
where it was, and just to beable to make that that on-time

(35:15):
service.
So it's crazy expensive.
It's it's frustrating like forthe driver, because even if
you're like, okay, well, they'regonna be down sleeping for that
amount of time, you can't be inthe sleeper of a truck while the
truck's being towed.
Yeah.
So it it disrupts that person'ssleep, it eats into their so
this is just so much moreflexibility to be able to manage

(35:35):
your clock where it actuallymakes sense for you.
And they've done a lot ofchanges over the past several
years.
I know uh, Jerry, you've beendriving longer than I have, but
even when I've been driving,like there was no 30-minute rest
break period requirement.
I could drive 11 hours.
If I could drive 11 hours, keepmy eyes open, I could do it.
Um, and I did several times, anduh I've come as I've gotten

(35:58):
older, I've come to appreciatethe requirement for a 30-minute
break.
Like I've done 11 hours sittingand now I understand
circulation, it's not a goodthing.
So um it it is it's interestingto see what they're doing, and
and I love the the 6455 becauseit it comes up so much.

SPEAKER_02 (36:18):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 (36:19):
You know, and one person I saw where they're
saying uh in the article, theysay faced with traveling in an
urban area during the height ofrush hour, you can now split
your berth to where you don'thave to.
Right.
That kind of thing is great.
Because how many of us have hitAtlanta at 4 30 and you're like,
boy, if I could just pull into aTA or gloves, shut down, sit

(36:40):
here for five hours and aboutnine o'clock take out, because
nine o'clock traffic in Atlantadon't exist.

SPEAKER_03 (36:44):
So it really sucks when you picked up and you had
to get a couple hundred milesdown the road, yeah, and you
were right in the middle of rushair traffic, and it would take
not a normal Oh le like leavinguh Philadelphia.
Philadelphia Los Angeles LosAngeles.

SPEAKER_06 (37:03):
Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_02 (37:04):
Oh my gosh, Los Angeles four hours of traffic
and you've gotten 90, and you'relike, I have another 190 to go.

SPEAKER_03 (37:13):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (37:13):
Like I'm like, uh-huh, and I put the dependents
on him, and I've got them.
Do I have the puppy pen on them?

SPEAKER_06 (37:20):
No, that's when you understand why we have all other
seats.

SPEAKER_02 (37:22):
Uh you're like, I could have gone a few hundred
miles in four hours, and I'veonly gone 90.
You know what you would theregoes the rest, area.

SPEAKER_06 (37:35):
You do it a couple times, and then you learn about
trip planning.
Yes.
And boy, trip planning comes inhandy, doesn't it?

SPEAKER_07 (37:42):
Sometimes you don't have a choice, you know,
especially in California.
You pick up uh there's you know,three o'clock afternoon, three
thirty, and it's like as soon asyou pull out, there you go.

SPEAKER_06 (37:51):
Oh, and it's always already started at three.
No, it's always it's always likethree thirty in Santa Monica.

unknown (37:56):
Yes.

SPEAKER_06 (37:57):
So you have all you have all of it to get through.

SPEAKER_01 (38:00):
We had a regular load that picked up in El
Segundo, okay, which is on thecoast, yeah, south of Santa
Monica, but the same idea.
Yes, right.
And we'd get there early, likelet's get loaded early and try
to get it could keep thistraffic out.
And we'd every time it was, oh,we're gonna load our own trucks,
then we'll get to you.

SPEAKER_00 (38:16):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (38:16):
And then they'd get to us, and it'd be that same
idea, and I'd be like, Well,Melissa, I tried.
We try we tried all the time.
We tried, and it was just yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (38:32):
I'd always be so thirsty and parched by the time
you got to be into the couplehundred weeks.
We don't drink water coffee orbecause you can't.
Yeah, Annie.
There's puppy pads on the floorfor you if you need them.

SPEAKER_06 (38:45):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (38:46):
Hashtag trucker issues.

SPEAKER_06 (38:48):
Yeah, I know, right?
You you figure it out, you workit, you do you, you get to you
get past your goal, and thenyou're like, all right, next
loves, TA, Petro, Big John'sWaterworks, whatever it is.
I'm I'm stopping.

SPEAKER_00 (39:02):
I'm stopping.
I'm stopping.

SPEAKER_06 (39:03):
I'm stopping.
What is this?
A circle K that can uh fit ninecars?
Sounds good to me.

SPEAKER_03 (39:12):
Cracker barrel.

SPEAKER_06 (39:13):
Oh, yeah, Cracker Barrel.
I've I've I've we've done a fewswap driver swaps at Cracker
Barrel.
Of course, we generally tend togo in and get some mama's
pancake breakfast.
Unless you're driving, becausemama's pancake breakfast is not
conducive.

SPEAKER_00 (39:27):
It is not, it will put some staying awake.

SPEAKER_06 (39:29):
Yeah, that yeah, oh that's what I mean.
Yeah, yeah.
It's like it's just saying,yeah.
If you're going to sleep, loadup, get that maple syrup because
they got that good maple syrupover there.

SPEAKER_02 (39:37):
And then the carbs.
Yeah, the car not the carb test,but the carbs.

SPEAKER_06 (39:40):
Oh, yes.
And then decaf coffee or sweettea.
Oh.
Anyways.
Decaf.

SPEAKER_02 (39:46):
Well, is it to sleep?
Oh, he didn't care.

SPEAKER_07 (39:49):
He didn't care.

SPEAKER_02 (39:50):
I don't care either.

SPEAKER_07 (39:51):
Drink a half a pot and go to bed.

SPEAKER_03 (39:53):
Yeah.
What if you had a truck thoughthat didn't have a driver in it?

SPEAKER_06 (40:00):
Uh it would just sit there.

SPEAKER_03 (40:02):
And it was making trips between Houston and San
Antonio.

SPEAKER_06 (40:08):
I would call it the producers of Christine.

SPEAKER_03 (40:11):
So I don't know if you guys are.
That's the one, right?

SPEAKER_06 (40:13):
Christine was the one that's a good one.

SPEAKER_03 (40:14):
Yes, Stevens.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 (40:16):
I was about to say, I wonder if she you're referring
to um bought auto?
Yeah.
Self-driving trucks.

SPEAKER_02 (40:23):
We've talked about them before between that
section.
They are the 45?
Is that what they're on?

SPEAKER_01 (40:28):
No, she's talking about San Antonio to Houston.
That's site in.
But we used to see them all thetime going from San Antonio at
45.

SPEAKER_02 (40:34):
Isn't it 45?

SPEAKER_01 (40:35):
45, yeah.
Between San Antonio and Dallas.
I think it's Houston and Dallas.

SPEAKER_02 (40:40):
So you're doing San Antonio to Houston.
There's autonomous ones.

SPEAKER_03 (40:48):
I think they've got approval.

SPEAKER_06 (40:49):
It stresses me out so much.
And I at first I'm like, well,this is the this is the next
thing, right?
This is what has to happen.
Great Jetsons.
Um and then I have a uh uhYouTube channel I I watch and
we've talked about it before.
Uh Jeb Brooks.
Big shout out to him.
He's great.
If you like travel, he's gotsome awesome stuff, especially

(41:10):
if you like flying.
And lately they've been doing umjust travel stuff that's
actually really fun.
But um they were just somewherewhere they took an autonomous
car and he shows like sitting inthe back seat, nobody in the
front seat, they're driving,they're going through a tunnel,
and I'm like, I don't know.
I don't know if I'm matureenough for this yet.
I'm like, and that's a andthat's a that's a Toyota Prius.

(41:30):
I uh I don't know about an80,000 pound uh semi.

SPEAKER_02 (41:35):
Like it just literally no one in it.
Yes.
So not even someone like whocould take over the controls and
the passengers.

SPEAKER_06 (41:42):
Exactly.
Like nobody's nobody.
There's nobody.
We get in a wreck and we justhope the safety systems of the
vehicle are good enough.
Curtain airbags.
But we uh you know they won'tflee the scene, right?
We we uh we were just in uhOregon.

SPEAKER_02 (42:02):
No, you were not.

SPEAKER_06 (42:03):
Yes, I noticed you were in Oregon.

SPEAKER_02 (42:05):
No, yeah, we were on the Oregon Trail.
Oh my goodness.

SPEAKER_06 (42:08):
We were in uh we passed trail on the Oregon
training trail.

SPEAKER_01 (42:11):
The Oregon Oregon Trail, right?
We ate in trails.
Yes.

SPEAKER_02 (42:14):
What we were in trail.

SPEAKER_01 (42:16):
I don't remember that.
We actually didn't eat in trail.

SPEAKER_06 (42:20):
No, but Eric and I went through trail.
We were in trail.
We stayed in trail.
In Oregon.
In Oregon.
We were on the Oregon Trail.

SPEAKER_02 (42:29):
Okay, fine, I'll give you that.

SPEAKER_06 (42:31):
So um boy, this is so complicated, isn't it?
So we were uh we were on theOregon Trail, and uh the I
rented uh uh I rented acrossover vehicle from
Enterprise.
Not a big deal.
I knew there was gonna be fourof us, yeah.
One luggage space, and it wasgood enough.
I could have got more, but itwas good enough.
Enterprise sent me an email.

(42:51):
They were like, you know, foronly$12 more, we can upgrade you
into a full size SUV, and I'mlike, yes, you can.

SPEAKER_02 (42:59):
For$12 more.

SPEAKER_06 (43:01):
So I accepted that offer, and then uh we get to the
uh the counter, and the lady'slike, all right, I've got you in
a premium crossover, and I'mlike, Well, I guess it didn't go
through.
Like, no, I wanted the full sizefor the extra twelve dollars.
For the extra$12, yes, exactly.
And so I told her, she's like,oh, well, babe, I got you in a

(43:23):
in a full size, anyways.
And I'm like, oh, thank you somuch.
So we get it, it's got a it'sbrand new, 3,000 miles on it.
Wow.
Brand new Ford Expedition.
Yeah.
And this thing was nice.
It was the Platinum Edition.
It was nice.
Not to brag.
Uh, you were there?

SPEAKER_04 (43:40):
I was.

SPEAKER_06 (43:42):
I was there eventually.
Eventually, eventually.
Eventually.
So we uh we started driving inthis thing, and I I kept like,
why is it broken?
Every time I hit cruise control,it would just randomly change
speeds on me, and I couldn'tfigure out what's going on.
And I finally figured it out.
It knows the speed limit, and itwas automatically adjusting the

(44:05):
speed limit whenever I changedspeed zones.
Because in that area, there'slike it'll go like 65, 55, 45,
35, 45, 55, 65.
Like, there's a it's a lot of upand down, a lot of changes.
So I'm like, okay, that's whatit's doing.
That's really cool.
Yeah.
It it kind of aggravated me atsome points, but like in

(44:26):
general, it's really coolbecause it would slow down and
other cars wouldn't.
So they would just zoom pastyou, and then they would slow
down.
Um so that was kind of cool.
And then at some point, I wasdriving and we were on the the
bypass.
There's a big a bypass there,um, and we're on a bypass, and I
looked at the uh steering wheelthing and it said hands free,

(44:47):
and I'm like holding it.
I'm like, what?
So I took my hands off.
Now my my uh Jeep has thatfeature where it'll hold the
center lane of the lane.
So if you're driving, it holdscenter of the of the travel
lane, but if it detects thatyou've taken your hands off the
wheel, it freaks out alarms,everything.

(45:07):
Put your hands back on thewheel.
Like, this is not self-drivingcar.
That thing literally said handsfree.
So I took my hands off the wheeland it took care of everything.
And I was like, it followed theroad, it slowed down in curves.
It like it did.
It was crazy because we're on a55-mile hour road, and it
actually we'd get to an areawhere like they'd have the like
slow down to 50, you know, orslow down to 40 or whatever, and

(45:30):
it slowed down, and I thought itwas funny because it would slow
down, like if it said 50, it'dslow down to like 46.
Like it knew you don't reallyhave to go that slow.
We know the vehicle, you canactually do this higher speed.
And so it did all that, and Ithought it was really cool, but
it still wasn't fullyself-driving.
There were roads that didn'twork on it, only worked on major
highways.

(45:50):
Um but that was my firstexperience.
But at least then it wasliterally just to grab the
steering wheel, hit the brake,and I'm under control.

SPEAKER_02 (45:57):
Right.

SPEAKER_06 (45:57):
I just think when you're sitting in the back,
yeah, and there's you havethere's nothing.

SPEAKER_02 (46:04):
I get it.

SPEAKER_06 (46:05):
Yeah, it messes with me.

SPEAKER_02 (46:06):
I get I think it was.

SPEAKER_03 (46:08):
I like driving.
I enjoy driving, so to have avehicle that drives for me, just
look what's the flannel.

SPEAKER_06 (46:16):
It just makes me think of one of Eric's favorite
movies.

SPEAKER_02 (46:20):
Wally.

SPEAKER_06 (46:20):
iRobot.
And yep, definitely.
And there's a section of thatmovie where the guy takes the
autopilot off and hand controlshis car, and there's ends up
almost wrecking the car.
Yes, and there's warnings andthere's sirens, and I think the
police might be called afterhim.
Like it's just crazy townbecause, like, what are you
doing?
You can't self-drive your owncar.
It just feels like that's thedirection we're heading.

SPEAKER_02 (46:42):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 (46:43):
So I don't know.
It was cool to experience.
That was my first time being ina car that kind of drove itself,
even if it was in a limitedcapacity, but it still makes
progress.
That was the exit back there.
Yes.
If you've seen the movie, yes,you'll get it.
Uh so, anyways, it's uh uh yeah,the the the self-driving thing.

(47:08):
I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 (47:09):
Um have you seen them?
I have not personally seen one.
I would I would look for themwhen I was down in Euston area,
but I did not see any.

SPEAKER_02 (47:18):
I remember when they were like beta testing some of
that stuff down there, and youcould still see someone, but you
could tell which ones they hadlike the big like almost like a
light bar, like an ambulance.
Or something, yeah, you know,big thing on the top.
Yeah, you could definitely tellyou.
It took a while to figure outwhat they were, and Vince is
like, those are like autonomousand they're teaching and
training and they're trying tofigure it out, but there's still
someone in it, he says.

SPEAKER_06 (47:39):
It reminded me of like the bar that went across
the window, it was like uh whenthey're pulling mobile homes.

SPEAKER_01 (47:45):
Yeah, with the with the extra wide mirrors.
With extra wide mirrors on it,it's what it reminded me of.
So Heather just sent the articleover.
It looks very similar.
It's a Freight Waves articlefrom September 16th of 2025.
It still has the great big baracross the top, and then right
below the side mirrors, it's gotother sensors as well.
So still very similar looking.
Um, but they're very proud thatthis is their first fully

(48:08):
autonomous trip across Texas.

SPEAKER_06 (48:13):
Okay, one more thing that makes me nervous.
So I just told you about thegreat expedit expedition that
was 3,000 miles old, practicallybrand new, self-drove itself.
Great cruise.
Even so, even the sections whereit wouldn't self-drive itself,
it still slowed down for curves.
Like it's still new.
Right.
So Eric and I we decided we weregonna take a drive up to Crater

(48:36):
Lake, Oregon.
It's a national park, it'sbreathtaking.
Yes, we had tears when we sawit.

SPEAKER_02 (48:43):
Um that's a funny joke.

SPEAKER_06 (48:48):
Uh it is a funny joke.
It's an insider joke.
Uh so if you're on our Patreon,you'll understand.
So uh we um we go up there andon the in it so Crater Lake is
in uh the base of a volcano.

SPEAKER_02 (49:03):
It is.

SPEAKER_06 (49:03):
So the top of a volcano uh blew and then it
collapsed, and so it createdthis huge lake.
I knew this, but I didn'trealize that so much of the
mountain still existed.
Oh I thought it was prettylevel.
I thought it I thought it waspretty level.
So when you're driving up there,you have to like drive way up a
freaking mountain to get to it.
And when we got to the top ofthe mountain, it is like white

(49:26):
out snow, crazy snow.
I mean, like, because we wentfrom not a drop of snow to like,
what was it, like 60s outside?

SPEAKER_02 (49:34):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 (49:35):
To blizzard.
It was It was a combination ofsnow and fog.
Yeah, it was it was crazy.
So we get up there and we do ourthing, and then we drive back
down, and as I'm driving down,uh, and this happened to me
three weeks ago when I wasdriving uh back from Memphis in
one of our commercial trucks, uhsame thing happened to me, which

(49:58):
is the front sensor for the uhadaptive crews and and and
emergency braking and all thatstuff, it was blocked by snow.
So enough had gotten on there,pack had gotten on there.
When I was in the uh commercialtruck, it was a torrential
downpour.
I mean like it was a hoo-ha,like just crazy downpour, and

(50:21):
that's what made it stopworking.
And as soon as we dried out, itfired right back up.
But uh in the in the in theexpedition, and it it kicked
down a little thing sayingyou're this is not available,
it's not available, it's notavailable.
And so my question is whenthat's not available in a car
like the expedition or in thecommercial truck like our
Freightliners, you just have tonow use your eyes and your feet,

(50:44):
and you have to control thevehicle yourself manually.
What happens when there's nobodyin the cab?

SPEAKER_01 (50:50):
So they talk in the article about the redundancy,
like the the super crazyredundancy.
Um trying to find it here.

SPEAKER_02 (50:59):
Yeah, what if they have fog or what if they get
rain and tornadoes down thatway?

SPEAKER_01 (51:03):
There's a lot of redundancy invalidations that
are done ahead of time, butthat's a very still a very good
point.
What happens there?
They don't spell this out inplain and simple English.
The one thing I did find thatspelled out in plain English
very at the very bottom of thearticle was this was one time
that they ran this fullyautonomous.
Okay, they've been running itautonomous with a person in the
in the truck, but they've doneit one time fully autonomous.

(51:26):
Um for now, it's the only tripconducted, but they expect more
to come.

SPEAKER_00 (51:31):
Okay.

SPEAKER_01 (51:32):
So it's not a regular ongoing fully autonomous
thing.
They do have somebody in the inthe truck when they're running
other ones.
Now I know we talked about in aprevious season that they were
doing a similar study.
Was it um JB Hunt?
I think it was JB Hunt that wasdoing it.
Dallas out I-20 to El Paso, orit might have been somewhere.

(51:54):
It was on I-20, but it was somestretch of highway that no one
likes to drive because right nowwas it fully autonomous?

SPEAKER_06 (52:00):
It was not fully autonomous, no, they still had a
driver.
So Dallas seems to be a hotbedfor these tech companies.
They do.
Because I've seen like uh in Godrest their souls, they're no
longer in business.
But I I uh we did a lot of workwith double-A sleepers down in
Dallas, or Fort Worth, Texas.
And um, so I would go down therepretty frequently, and I would

(52:20):
see them quite often in thatarea.
And as soon as you left thatarea, I would always go up
through Arkansas, they were allgone.
You won't see me.

SPEAKER_01 (52:26):
I think that's why you saw them there in Texas
because there's such such longstretches of highway between El
Paso and Dallas.
And yeah, you've got mid andOdessa, but there's nothing out
there.
Yeah.
So you have that huge longstretch of highway where you can
just run a truck straight fordays and test a bunch of
different things.
Yeah.
Or even San Antonio to Houstonis a long stretch of I-10, more
populated than I-20.

(52:48):
But I think you just have thoselong stretches in Texas that
make it a little easier for thattype of thing.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (52:54):
Yeah.
Yeah, that is definitely alonely road between uh Dallas
and Texas is I like it.

SPEAKER_06 (53:01):
That Dallas Dallas to El Paso, I think it's
therapeutic.

SPEAKER_03 (53:07):
It is beautiful in the Kansas is what I can't
stand.

SPEAKER_06 (53:11):
The kids are up in them almost.
Well the corn?
Oh, yeah.
The corn the Kansas, the wheat.
Not the corn, the the um is itwheat?
The wheat.
The wheat.
Oh snooze fest.
Snooze fest.
But at least Texas, it's kind ofbarren.
You do get like deserty.

SPEAKER_01 (53:27):
You do get some terrain.
Well, the fun part in Texas islooking out for the burn-off
flares out in the distance.

SPEAKER_06 (53:35):
At night, hard to do the day.

SPEAKER_01 (53:38):
Yeah, but that's so much fun.

SPEAKER_06 (53:39):
Uh R at night driving up and you see like just
a sea of red diamonds that flashand then go away.
Yeah.
And then flash.
Yeah.
But there's the one that's outof sync.
It's out of sync?
And then you get close and yourealize, oh, that's a cell phone
turbine.
Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 (53:53):
It's not a it's not a wind turbine, it's a cell
phone.
Yes.

SPEAKER_02 (53:57):
So no, it is um there were aliens and there were
motherships.

SPEAKER_06 (54:02):
I told you.
So what happened.

SPEAKER_02 (54:05):
Sorry.
So, Melissa, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 (54:07):
Uh, we just got to celebrate your 50th birthday in
Salt Lake City's airport.
We took it.
But that was that was by a weirddefault.
Uh actually, no, we spent thewhole weekend in Medford, uh,
Oregon.

SPEAKER_02 (54:22):
Trail.

SPEAKER_06 (54:22):
And trail.
That's what I meant.
Trail.

SPEAKER_02 (54:24):
Trail.

SPEAKER_06 (54:25):
Trail.

SPEAKER_02 (54:25):
Oregon.

SPEAKER_06 (54:26):
The Oregon Trail.
Uh uh, with you.
You picked out this really coolcabin.
Yep.
It was it was really beautiful.
Uh, we had a fire.

SPEAKER_02 (54:33):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 (54:33):
I uh learned real quick that a wood-fired oven is
extremely hot.

SPEAKER_02 (54:41):
Yeah, this one had glass doors.
It this is for warmth purposes,so they they are called a wood
stove.

SPEAKER_06 (54:47):
Stove, that's it.

SPEAKER_02 (54:48):
Uh yours upstairs in this house is for ambiance, not
to warm your home.

SPEAKER_06 (54:53):
Yes.

SPEAKER_02 (54:53):
Big difference.

SPEAKER_06 (54:54):
Oh yeah.
So yeah.
Well, the door got me and it gotme good.
I uh I I I blistered quitenicely.

SPEAKER_02 (55:02):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 (55:02):
And uh yesterday at Trader Joe's of all places, it
decided to uh have a moment.
To let go.

SPEAKER_02 (55:08):
That's okay.

SPEAKER_06 (55:09):
Which is just weird when you're walking through
Trader Joe's and just all of asudden you're like, why is my
hand?
Oh God.

SPEAKER_02 (55:14):
Um I don't know why that wood stove had a metal
frame.
I thought that was really odd.
Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 (55:20):
So it was glass and then metal as opposed to the
glass was about 16.

SPEAKER_02 (55:26):
Something that wasn't hot?

SPEAKER_06 (55:27):
The glass was about six.

SPEAKER_02 (55:29):
Sorry, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 (55:30):
Yeah.
Glass was about sixteen,seventeen hundred degrees.

SPEAKER_02 (55:33):
To be fair, he touched the door frame.
Again, that's holding glass in,not the door handle.
The door handle was a that hashe resisted a little bit.

SPEAKER_06 (55:44):
Oh, the door handle was like 70 degrees.
It was fine.

SPEAKER_02 (55:46):
Yeah.
But I touched the 5,000 degrees.

SPEAKER_06 (55:49):
So I opened both doors with the handles as one
does.
I fed the fire, and then I justgrabbed the door like I was
shutting a car door, andwhoo-ha.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (56:00):
I will never.

SPEAKER_03 (56:03):
It didn't look very long.

SPEAKER_01 (56:04):
I missed that because I was out sewing logs.
You were sewing logs.

SPEAKER_02 (56:07):
You were cutting logs for the fire.

SPEAKER_06 (56:09):
Yes.
I uh yeah.
So my sister uh was much youngerwhen she learned the lesson.
Uh so my sister was uh eight ornine.

SPEAKER_02 (56:18):
A lesson.

SPEAKER_06 (56:19):
She was eight or nine.
She was uh out camping with mygrandparents, and on the side of
the uh motor home where the umrefrigerator uh no sorry where
the hot water uh heater is.
With gas.
With gas uh is a little radiatorand it says hot.
So of course my sister at sevenyears old, eight years old was

(56:40):
like, I wonder how hot it is.
And so uh they ended theircamping trip early, she went
home.

SPEAKER_02 (56:46):
And uh I'm glad we didn't have to end our
incidentally.

SPEAKER_06 (56:49):
My grandfather uh painted the letters H O T in
red.
Um so if you see a Winnebagowith red H O T letters, it's
his.
Uh and so I uh yeah, I I Igrabbed those doors and man, it
it lit me up.
It hurt.
But uh we had a great timeoutside of that.
Uh I can't think of anythingelse that happened that possibly

(57:12):
caused anyone harm or pain.

SPEAKER_02 (57:13):
Nope, we had about what, 17, 15, 16 of us?
Yeah, about 22.
I don't think it was 22.

SPEAKER_06 (57:20):
Well, according to the fire marshal.

SPEAKER_01 (57:22):
Yeah, the fire marshal is a good one.

SPEAKER_02 (57:24):
It was it was a nice little gathering of friends and
family.
It was very nice.
Um nice celebration.
Oh, the hot tub was great.
For some of you, you know, we'vetalked about it on the show,
plus maybe some of you alreadyknow, but I've done a two-two
every year since I turned 40.
Again, I know we've talked aboutit here.
Yes.
Um, maybe even last year.
And uh this year, this year ismy last year.

(57:47):
A lot of people think it's forwhatever reasons.
Oh, uh whatever reasons thoseare, but this is it.

SPEAKER_06 (57:52):
I'm being told we have a picture.

SPEAKER_02 (57:54):
Oh, for sure.
We have a picture.

SPEAKER_06 (57:55):
How gorgeous.
Oh my gosh, beautiful.

SPEAKER_02 (57:59):
I've dreamt of this outfit now for probably the last
three or four years, and it cameout pretty much how I pictured
it to be over the top.
Uh, it is my heaviest tutu byfar.
Um, people often ask me if Imade the whole thing.
I did not make the dress, and Idid not make the train skirt
portion.
I mean, it you'd have to thinkof that as material, but all the

(58:20):
tool that is on that trainskirt.
Yes, I did add all of that andmake that.

SPEAKER_03 (58:24):
Except for the glitter that was left at the
house.
I know.

SPEAKER_01 (58:27):
Oh, I mean, if you can you imagine if that glitter
was actually on the skirt, itwould have been 10 pounds
heavier.
Well, my confusion.

SPEAKER_02 (58:35):
It took its own suitcase all the way to work.
It did.

SPEAKER_06 (58:38):
Mike, have you d uh it was it was it was wrapped in
the case?
It was wrapped.
Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_02 (58:44):
It was wrapped, so no glitter in the suitcase.

SPEAKER_06 (58:46):
I I I was very confused when she said I've got
tool.
I was thinking, uh, you know,I'm a big home improvement fan,
Tim the toolman Taylor, put thetool belt on.
I thought there'd be hammers andsaws and screwdrivers, and that
was not what happened.
No, it was a different kind oftool belt.
It was yeah, it's beautifulthough.

SPEAKER_02 (59:03):
But you know, 50 gold, go big, go home kind of
thing.
Yes.
Again, it is my 11th tutu.
I've done one every year forsince I turned 40.
Um I'm a boy mom.
Kind of decided to take backsome feminine, you know, ness
and and show my boys that youcan still be, you know, a girl
who just wants to have some fun.
And and um, so yeah, 11 years,40 to 50, and and I'm only

(59:29):
hanging it up because um they'rereally hard to get creative
over.
Um they each have to havesomething special to me.
I just don't make one for awilly-nilly reason.
And um they're expensive.
This year's was well over 500bucks, and I don't think people
really know that about tool.
Tool's expensive.

SPEAKER_06 (59:51):
And lastly, um my tool supplier has gone out of
business in that situation.

SPEAKER_02 (01:00:00):
wins.
So it just seems like a reallygood thing.
And and I've always known at 50I was gonna stop and just move
on with life.
It was it was a time, it was athing.
And uh for all of you out thereand and and I know maybe some of
our my Facebook friends andfamily don't watch this, but um
if I inspire you, you should dosomething of your own.
So a lot of people are like Ican't believe you're ending.

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Really you're joking.
You're kidding.
We we live to see the next twotwo every year.
Well you do something specialand I'll follow you.
Because that's what life'sreally about.
And that's that was kind of mystory.
Just wanted to share.
You don't have to just bestagnant and do nothing.
Have fun with life.

SPEAKER_06 (01:00:38):
Well you've been saying for several years now
that I've known you that this isthe benchmark and and throughout
the I think I've been verytransparent about that.
You have been very transparentabout that.
So it's uh it it was gorgeousand uh it I understand your
friends like sure because Ithink I'm one of them.
Uh it it's gonna be like ohwe're not gonna see this

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anymore.
But um we got eleven years to goback and look at the other ones.
And I think are they all most atleast are on Facebook, right?

SPEAKER_02 (01:01:10):
Most yeah yeah around this time of year they're
they're typically on there um atleast on my page if you're
following me.

SPEAKER_06 (01:01:16):
You have to start doing the memories.

SPEAKER_02 (01:01:18):
I know memories this time whatever years ago.
But yeah I know they've alsosomething really special and um
yeah yeah it's it's been quite aride and and uh really enjoyed
Oregon and and sporting that I'dlike to maybe wear it one more
time because again I I don'trewear these um I so I think

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maybe one more time somewherehere in Ohio before I sell it or
part it out or do something withit.
I've got I'm five deep they justhang in the the basement so I'm
gonna I think somebody wantsone.

SPEAKER_06 (01:01:50):
You have to take them on the triumph.
On the triumph?

SPEAKER_01 (01:01:53):
Wear my dress on the the motorcycle we could just
drape her her train over the boxin the water supposed to be 80
this weekend that maybe thatmight work strapless dress.

SPEAKER_06 (01:02:05):
Oof even at 80 I don't I mean with a helmet on
and he gets caught in the tire.
I got I gotta just keep moving.
The wind holds it up in thewindow.

SPEAKER_02 (01:02:14):
You gotta find that magic balance you slow down at
seven miles an hour gets caughtin the tire wait you'll have to
redo your sensors for weightdistribution because that sucker
again adds about 25 pounds.
I am not joking that is a superheavy heavy I thought it was
going to be overweight in mysuitcase putting it in the you
did not show overweight or notoverweight I'm sorry you didn't

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show heavy it it looked you youwore it gracefully.
I did yeah well there was a lotof reinforcement I I do thank uh
Vince Vince and Heather uh fortheir great ideas because there
were a couple of nights I washaving meltdowns.
I thought I had the problemresolved and I'm like well we're
pivoting to choice two choicethree and I'm like something's

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got to give but it it required alot of reinforcement to keep it
up on my hips.

SPEAKER_06 (01:03:01):
It was interesting that uh before you uh or when
you went to assemble it uh onyou it's kind of and I say
assemble it's like an if you'veseen Iron Man it's it's kind of
like that uh Vince and Heatherwere gone with you for at least
two hours uh prior to the partyand uh when I saw Vince uh
driving the forklift in I was uhmildly concerned because I'm

(01:03:25):
like I'm not sure there's enoughceiling height for the forklift
but uh apparently there wasunfortunately it stopped raining
so we were actually able to doit outside without needing the
extent oh okay we were hidden wecouldn't see that the hard the
hard part was getting that bigRGN trailer in there yes to
deliver the forklift way up inthe hills that that driver was

(01:03:46):
amazing what I didn't understandis why you got the RGN trailer
from the Mid America truck showwhere it was just closing and
opening and closing and openingand closing and opening the
whole time do you not rememberthe mats?
I remember Matt's yeah they hadthe RGN trailers in the end and
they just open them and theyclose them again and they open

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them and they close again.

SPEAKER_02 (01:04:07):
I do remember that I don't remember that so here's a
fun fact so I've done lightslike last year was Aurora
Borealis right Aurora Borealisand I ran star lights through my
outfit that the dress actuallylike it had stars on.

SPEAKER_06 (01:04:19):
So I it looks really cool.

SPEAKER_02 (01:04:21):
I've done uh other LED lights through I I wound
them through the ladies styletool.
Oh I love you did that for theBlinkfest in Louisville I know
yeah so this year I reallyreally really wanted a bubble
machine up underneath my skirtmy skirt was already so heavy

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and I couldn't think about howto stick the bubble machine up
in the skirt to blow bubbles buthow cool would that have been to
have a bubble machine blowingbubbles as you're walking that
would have been a blast I stillthink it logistically figured
out but it never executed butwould it not just look like
you're farting bubbles rightunicorn I think it was like a

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little 19 it was like 1910 1920scars like go bigger go bigger
than the booty the cable guycalls those walking for it's
funny I'm gonna get you wraparound to crop dusting again and

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on that note Jerry would we misscrop dusting that's hilarious.

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