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September 29, 2025 54 mins

Journalist Justin Ling joins Steve to discuss his book “The 51st State Votes,” how Trump turned Canada’s 45th general election on its head, Pierre Poilievre’s “campaign malpractice,” whether Canada can survive as Trump's economic punching bag, and how Mark Carney’s “elbows up” approach is going today. Then they consider Chrystia Freeland’s exit from cabinet and what an increasingly unstable and chaotic America means for Canada. 

The 51st State Votes book:  https://sutherlandhousebooks.com/product/the-51st-state-votes/

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