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August 4, 2024 • 55 mins

In this episode of The Pain In Our Head Podcast, Caleb & Christian discuss the feeling of burnout and some intelligent advertising commercials. Join in as they talk about some new music and a lost but not forgotten gaming console.

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(00:43):
What's going on everyone?
Any business?
Good, didn't want to know anyway.
Welcome to this week's episode of the Pain in Our Head podcast, where Christian and I
sit here for 50 minutes and rip on each other.

(01:03):
Coming off the last week's episode, which is a good episode, lots of shit talk.
Well, I thought so.
We laughed a lot, made a lot of fun of each other.
I thought it was good.
It was good fun.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So not that I really care, but how's your week going?
Don't you business?

(01:24):
No, I don't know.
Fucking whatever.
Fucking.
I left the house on the weekend, so it was that.
Yeah, that's good.
Yeah.
Good for you.
Yeah.
So do you though, you fucking arse and you left me all weekend.
Yeah, I feel like I wasn't at home all weekend.

(01:47):
I saw Deadpool and Wolverine.
You didn't tell me you saw that.
Did I?
No.
I saw Deadpool and Wolverine.
Fuck you.
I thought we were friends.
I could tell you everything.
Yeah, I know.
Just forgot to tell you this part.
Anyway, it was good.
It was fucking hilarious.

(02:08):
Right.
Yeah, yeah.
Actually, we'd already recorded last week's episode on laughter before I'd seen it, but
it helps.
They're really fucking funny.
They're a good set of movies, like all three of them.
I enjoy all of them.
Yeah, I enjoyed the shit out of Deadpool 1 and 2.

(02:30):
So I'll go watch Deadpool 3 myself.
Yeah, do it.
Do it.
Hugh Jackman is pretty good in it.
Obviously, that's Wolverine.
Ripped.
Like really ripped for this movie for some just fucking reason.
Because he's single.

(02:52):
No, yeah, actually, there's a really...
No, I'm not.
Anyway, no spoilers.
No spoilers.
I'm not spoiling it.
It's really fucking good.
Go watch it.
If Christian hasn't seen it by next week, I'm going to go and spoil it for him.
I'll just add that to the list of reasons to punch you in the mouth when I see you.
I thought you were going to say something else about reasons.

(03:15):
You can make that in.
I'll make that in.
Very good.
This week, we're going to chat about burnout, mental capacity.
Not really mental capacity because mental capacity means something entirely different,
especially when you're thinking about it from a legal perspective.
Mental capacity is one's ability to be able to make decisions.

(03:38):
Anyway, sorry, ignore me.
But yes, that's what we're talking about, talking about burnout today.
Do a sick cunt, you burnout.
Yeah.
You've made that joke before.
I know I have.
Shut up.
It's like when you recycle jokes.
I don't know.

(03:59):
I don't know where I was going with that, but well done.
Well done, dickhead.
Yes.
Can you reverse park, like reverse parallel?
Mate, can I reverse park?
I can do it with my eyes closed.
I'd like to see that, dickhead.
Can you reverse with a trailer?

(04:20):
Yes.
Yeah, nice.
You should see me reversing the truck.
I'm a weapon.
Fucking hard.
Well, no, it's not, but I'm a weapon.
Although I've seen people reverse that truck.
I've seen people try to reverse that truck.
I've seen people try to reverse that truck.
Oh, Jesus.
Don't want to go there?

(04:45):
How many times have you watched him go in and out from the dock?
Oh, mate, it's like, what do you fucking do?
It's got a reverse camera.
There's fucking painted lines.
What are you doing?
Speaking of which, though, our lines need to be repainted.
Like, really do need to be repainted.
And I had trouble the other day.
We've had a spare truck.

(05:09):
The mirror, the right-hand side mirror, where that's the side that I painted lines on.
So I use that mirror to see what the line is.
The mirror's like 20 times, like zoomed in.
It's weird.
It makes it difficult.
So anyway, the other day I had to do it a few times.
It's such a pain in the arse.

(05:30):
You reverse it back.
So just a little bit of context.
We're loading a truck for work.
We reverse it onto the loading dock.
As you do, you're loading up a truck.
And if you don't get it right, you can't put the dock down onto the back of the truck.
Makes sense.
So anyway, you don't know this until you get up to the top, to the dock.

(05:55):
You go down, and then you go to put the last part down onto the fucking platform,
the platform onto the truck.
And it doesn't fit.
And there's no making it fit either.
It's just, it's not going to fit.
Fucked up.
Do it again.
Yeah.
Anyway, good waste of time.

(06:16):
Do you have like, semis come in and use your dock?
No, we're telling them to fuck off to the next one.
So when I was in Bundy, we only had the one dock.
So I told her she'd come in and there'd be a fucking semi on there.
And you're just like, get the fuck off my dock.
Fuck! Fuck!

(06:42):
No, don't have that issue.
I wish ours was closer to the online room.
So if they're there in the morning blocking the way, we can't get our shit to our side.
Yeah.
Anyway, you get that on the big jobs.

(07:03):
Stop stealing my line.
Too bad, too late.
You sold it to me.
When do I get out of it?
Me being nice to you for the next week.
Fuck, I take it back.
That's the worst trade of my life.

(07:27):
Because it's never going to happen.
No, I was hoping you'd fuck, and I was setting you up real hard there.
I was hoping you'd say like my friendship.
And then I was just going to be like, fuck, that was the worst trade ever.
Like you gave it.
Close.
I was playing that long game.

(07:50):
Yeah, see, you do things like this.
And I kind of think, you know what?
You probably would be really good at chess.
I am.
And then there's other times where I'm just like, no, there's no way.
I'd just absolutely slap you into oblivion.
So we're going to, I wish we do that on the stream.
I want an online chess match.

(08:12):
Online chess match.
I'd get, it'd be the most boring fucking chess match ever though, because I'd just, I would, there'd be no banter.
I'd just be fucking concentrating.
I don't know.
You're telling me that we're going to sit there for 30 minutes, have a game of chess and not.

(08:32):
Oh yeah, because I would throw shit at each other.
I'd like knuckle down and just smash you.
Keep telling you, I don't think you've got a choice.
Anyway.
The same as you and go-karting.
You're like, I'm going to beat you with go-karting.
No, that's different because I'm not going to beat you at go-karting.

(08:53):
I know that for a fact.
Anyway.
I like your hoodie.
This is the, this is the other one.
The third one.
It's like fucking eight degrees.
It's cold.
Yes.
Winter.
Mum keeps telling me I need to move back to Queensland and I just fucking, I'm scared of moving back to Queensland now.

(09:19):
You'd sweat your balls off.
Yeah.
The mornings are okay in winter, like still cold, like freezing.
But as soon as it gets to like 10 AM, 11 AM, it's back up in the fucking low twenties at the moment and it's hot enough.
I remember when I was doing night shift back in Queensland, like you'd get home at six o'clock or you'd leave work at six in the morning.

(09:42):
And you know, you'd roll in and normally I'd go to bed around seven 30 ish.
You know, had the kids and stuff.
And then, yeah, between like 10 and 11, the sun would rise and the master bedroom was on the same side that the sun would rise.

(10:03):
So even with blackout curtains and the fucking aircon cranked, you'd still wake up at like 11, 1130, just like dripping sweat and just overheated.
You're like fucking horrible.
I miss that shit.
And I hate humidity.
It's still humid.
What is this?

(10:26):
Tropics.
Yes.
Maybe I'll move to Brisbane.
Get a bachelor pad together.
Bachelor pad, is that what you reckon?
Why are you fucking laughing at that?
Why are you laughing at that for a bachelor pad?

(10:53):
I have a girlfriend.
I don't care.
You can't live with this.
You and me.
We thought about it.
We talked about this before.
Yeah, you broke my heart.
But I did.
Imagine the computer setup.
We talked about it.
You'd have to be a divider.

(11:16):
You'd have to have your computer in your own room.
Yeah, well, that's right.
We're all just on PC now.
We're talking about the old days where it was just console and you plugged in your controller with a cable.
PS2 days.

(11:37):
Try like Nintendo 64.
Oh, Nintendo 64.
Mario Party.
What a game.
Mario Kart, Mario Party.
Yeah, GoldenEye.
Yeah, GoldenEye.
Some great games.

(11:58):
What else?
Zelda.
Zelda.
Well, yeah, that's a given.
Ocarina of Time.
Banger.
I haven't played on a Nintendo 64.
Gosh.
Too many years.

(12:24):
Way too many years.
Yes, anyway.
Anyway.
When times were simpler.
Before we didn't have mental health problems.

(12:49):
Anyway, Burnout.
Burnout sucks.
I fucking love doing burnouts.
Yeah.
Sick burnouts.
What's Burnout, Caleb?
Explain it to me.
You want me to explain it to you?
Seeing as you asked.

(13:10):
I've never experienced a burnout in my life.
I've always been an absolutely rosy, cheap, fucking full cup person.
Oh, you're going to learn something new today.
Burnout is the state of a mentical.
Mentical?
Mentical.
I've invented a new word.
Hello.
We got 13 minutes, not even 13 minutes in, and I've already muffin words.

(13:35):
I'm warmed up now.
You still got to fuck up words.
Burnout is the state of complete mental, physical, and emotional exhaustion.
Awesome.
Yes.
Yes.
I was in a state of burnout for the last few weeks.

(13:58):
Yeah.
Yeah.
I definitely was.
I was sitting...
Good, nice, well done.
The part that kills me.
You may no longer care about the things that are important to you.
Don't worry, Caleb, I'll always care about you.

(14:20):
Oh, thank you.
That was really sweet.
That was really nice.
Yes, but you may find it difficult to engage in activities that you normally find meaningful.
Look, I'm not going to lie, I think not even a week ago, I think I was hitting burnout.

(14:42):
I turned into a real prick.
Did you?
I didn't notice.
I'm pretty sure you're on the raw end of one of my outbursts.
But lots of signs and symptoms of burnout.

(15:03):
Yeah.
You got a few for me?
Pretty much the usual fucking things that come with all mental problems.
It's like, oh, you got a problem with your mental health, guess what?
You're not going to sleep the same.
You're going to lose your fucking appetite.
Your immune system might go down.

(15:25):
You might cop some fucking headaches or gut cramps.
Oh, fuck well.
Frequent illness.
You don't diagnose your mental health issues by your physical ailments, otherwise you'd be fucked.
That's the physical side of it, but then the emotional symptoms could be that you feel quite helpless.

(15:48):
You might turn into a bit of a cynic.
An asshole.
Yeah, a bit of decreased satisfaction or feeling alone or detached.
Lack of motivation.
Maybe I'm just constantly burnt out.
That just sounds like, mate, I'm cynical as fuck.

(16:10):
Yeah, probably burnt out. You work a lot.
Then behavioral signs, I guess, like reduced performance in everyday tasks, withdrawing or isolating, procrastinating.
Outbursts, code bluffs.
There it is.
Using substances to cope.
Never done any of those behavioral signs of burnout.

(16:34):
No, no, no, no.
Not once.
Completely haven't thrown tantrums at me.
I threw a tantrum this afternoon.
Like a fucking 10-year-old.
I didn't go back to Tanty. I did. I threw a Tanty this afternoon.
Because my shit wasn't working.
Tanty, you little bitch.
Yeah, chuck a Tanty.
Yeah, good. Very good. Causes of burnout.

(16:59):
Having little or no control over your work.
Give me a tricky one. I've been there before.
Suck sometimes.
Yeah, sometimes you just get to that point where you're just like, what's the point?
You know what I mean?
It bleeds through to everything.

(17:20):
I remember some days band practice.
You can relate to this. I'm fucking sure.
But every week we do at least one band practice a week.
Sometimes we'd get two out.
And you'd just be sitting there and you're like, why not?

(17:43):
But it's like you've made that commitment to the band.
Especially if you've got a gig coming up.
For a little bit there, we were touring.
We had a gig once a month.
It was just like, we'd go to Maribor or Harvey Bay or around locally.
It's just like, I really need to go to band practice, but I just don't fucking want to.

(18:12):
It can be really exhausting, especially if you're working as well.
Working part-time, full-time, casual job even, whatever it is.
When you're doing extra curricular, extra kind of work, especially if you are gigging.
Because technically that is it's work.
You don't get paid a lot for it.
You usually get paid in beer.

(18:34):
Which I don't mind.
I've never said no to free beer.
I have.
Have you?
Yeah.
Because we've got this much money at the bar.

(18:57):
So work it out between you, how much you get.
I just didn't use mine because I was so fucking anxious about going up to the bar and being like,
Hi, I'm the singer for Iron Wizard.
No.
Really?
Yeah.
Oh shit.
I'd go straight up to the bar and be like, is there a tab for the band?
Is the band playing? Do we have coupons or what's going on?

(19:22):
Give me my beer.
Usually it's the shit stuff though, but beggars can't be choosers.
You are just a drummer.
I am just a beggar.
Not as important as a singer.

(19:43):
We're not getting into this today.
I will bury you deep.
You haven't even got a whole drum kit.
You've got three pieces behind you.
Oh no.
It's useless.
Because I use it.
Because I have to actually pack it and take it with me when I go to band practice.
Yeah.
Just hold on.
Let me pack up for band practice.
Just going to grab my car keys.

(20:07):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Good on you.
Well done.
Sorry.
I'm going to pack up my attitude and take it with me.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Superiority complex.
Yeah.
Yes.
Yeah.
That...
Oh, you're lucky.
You don't have to take too much.
Sometimes you vibrate or whatever.

(20:30):
I leave my groupies at home.
Oh, groupies.
Have you ever had any groupies over your time gigging?
Surely you would have.
Yeah.
Young little shaved head Christian screaming his lungs out.

(20:52):
Oh yeah.
They weren't good ones.
They would have fought it to run their hands all over your head.
Dude, when we were popular as shit, when I was hardcore into pole dancing.
So like, I was shredded.
I was absolutely shredded.

(21:15):
So yeah, I was like pretty good looking.
Spoken like a true singer.
Yeah.
I remember we had a gig, right?
And we hadn't had a gig for a while.
And I had stopped doing pole dancing.

(21:40):
And we'd had a kid.
So I'd like started the whole dad bod thing.
So I went from like shredded as shit, you know, taking my shirt off every time I was on stage to the, you know, this time I like show up wearing like, I don't know, dad kind of clothes, glasses.

(22:01):
Yeah.
No, I still, I still wore jeans, but I'd like a button up shirt and fucking.
Yeah.
So, and yeah, one of the chicks that used to come to like every gig.
Yeah.
She's like, Oh, you know, it's good to see you back.
And I was like, yeah, thanks.
She's like, Oh, you look a bit different these days.
And I was like, yeah.
Yeah.

(22:22):
A bit of a dad bod going now.
Like, you know, we had a kid and she's like, yeah, I could tell you put on a bit of weight.
Yeah.
This is coming from you and your fat.
Jesus Christ.

(22:43):
Fucking hell.
She's like, stop being like the same cheek, like stopped me at the fucking supermarket one day.
And I was like, Hey, you such and such, and I was like, yeah, I really like you banned.
Like I always come along as.
Hey, fuck me.

(23:08):
Fucking, you know, like tiny little backwards fucking band in the middle of nowhere.
I can't even go grocery shopping without some of you.
I like your bands.
Fucking social anxiety.
Out of my face.
Yeah.
It's one good thing, I guess, about doing all of our gigs around Brisbane.

(23:31):
You're not really that popular or well known.
So we played one gig in Brisbane.
It was good.
There's a lot of good venues.
We played it like some.
I remember what it was called, but they were like very, very fucking anti-author, authoritarian.

(23:53):
Wow.
Whatever.
They're really against the cops anyway.
Oh, OK.
It was like a uni bar kind of place, but I forget what it was called.
Fuck sick little venue, though.
OK.
I yeeted another band member.

(24:17):
Not off from my, not from our band.
I'll tell you that story.
Yeah, you did off the stage, hey.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Try taking the mic off.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I remember that.
Yeah.
Yeeted him.
Yeet.
Yeah.
I've been out there thinking too crazy, having gigs.
I've had people buy us drinks.

(24:39):
That happens all the time.
I know, right?
I'd be standing there on stage singing and the guy, someone will come up to the front
of the stage and give you a drink.
And you're just like, do I drink this?
Am I going to get date-raised?
You're in the front of the stage, so it's not too bad.
They've just got to lean over the barrier or leave it over to the front of the stage.

(25:00):
I'm at the back.
I'll have people walk up the side and hand me beers.
And I'm playing with obviously two hands.
I'm either going to drop one stick and just start playing with one hand.
Time always sticks to your hands.
Oh yeah, have you seen that guy?
Yeah, I've seen that guy.

(25:21):
Awesome.
I don't know what his name is, but I'll shout out to the guy on Instagram and ties a drumstick
to his head or his heart.
Bops his head, plays guitar and does the drums at the same time.
Really cool.
Yeah.
But anyways, they start pouring it into my mouth as I'm playing.

(25:42):
So I'm sitting there playing and I'm like, oh.
Anyway.
I can see the thumbnail for this episode.
Good.
I'm not.
Fucking idiot.
Probably can't put anything else.
But yeah, so.

(26:03):
But I can become Tyson.
We've well, there's a point there where we would do it.
We did three back to back gigs.
Yeah.
We actually did two in one night.
That was exhausting.
That sucked.
That was fucking ass.
Yeah.
Both in the valley.
We did one at like seven thirty to like nine or nine thirty.

(26:27):
And then we went and played at like eleven thirty.
Another bar around the corner.
And that was like lugging my kid.
Not even not the whole kid, but you know, just the basic stuff.
Use the venue gig.
Oh, when you get.
Yeah.
Gross.
Terrible.
There are a few few venues in Brisbane.

(26:49):
They've got a decent, decent drum kit, but like a few and far between.
Yeah.
Very, very few and far between.
So yeah, yeah.
But easy to get burn out.
Super easy to get burn out.
Yeah, we went off on a tangent there.
We did.
But so there's different signs.
Like I think that's an important part of burnout is figuring out where like, yeah, I talk about mental capacity by figuring out what your limit is.

(27:14):
You know, everyone will have a different sort of limit in terms of how much they can take mentally before it all becomes too much.
And that's why we've talked about on previous episodes about like coping mechanisms and how important some of those healthy ones are helps break it up.
So it's really important to understand where that where that balance is, because if you don't and you let shit sit for a while, you get cranky and you have outbursts.

(27:44):
Snap at your best friend.
And yeah, that's right.
So you don't want to do that because that's not a very nice thing to do.
Anyway, I'm never going to live that down.
It fucking really hurt me.
All right.
Good.
I felt fucking good.

(28:06):
Damn.
Payback.
We were playing League of Legends and this little bitch cracked the shits on and fucking just refused to talk to me.
I didn't do anything.
It wasn't even me.
The enemy jungler cleared his fucking jungle on him and he was moody as shit because he asked the top laner to put a fucking ward down.

(28:29):
Was it that game?
It was.
He didn't put a ward down and fucking that was it.
You refused to speak to me for the rest of the fucking game.
I didn't even fucking do it.
I invoked a coping mechanism.
I went and listened to music.
I messaged you and were like, are you on mute?
And you didn't even respond.

(28:50):
I was just like, hmm.
All right.
Anyway, the moral of the story is don't let burnout.
Don't let your mental capacity build up or the amount that you can take build up so that you turn into an absolute...
Have you seen...
What's that movie?

(29:12):
Like the angry, sad, happy...
Emotions?
Yeah.
It's not called Emotions, but there's a sequel coming out.
Inside Out.
Inside Out.
That's it.
Yeah.
So you don't turn into the red angry guy.
Very funny movie, by the way.
Really good movie.
I really enjoyed it.

(29:33):
At least you did the right thing though and you apologize the next day.
It's a very well thought out apology.
This is true.
If you do make a mistake, own your mistake and apologize.
Is that why your mum kept you?
She chose to own her mistake.

(29:57):
That hurts.
I was a mistake.
Me too.
I was an accident.
Yeah.
Look at us now.
Look at me now, Mum.

(30:20):
Oh shit.
This is what happens to your mistakes.
Grow up to be fucking dickheads.
Fucking hell.
Oh shit.
That's so cool.

(30:44):
Laughter.
It's good for you.
Watch our last week's episode.
Go watch last week's episode.
Anyway, so deal with burnout.
Take a break.
Yeah.
It sounds dumb.
I'm going to go on another tangent.

(31:05):
If you're angry, you're hungry.
If you're angry, have a Snickers.
It's not you when you're hungry.
That's great marketing.
Do you remember that Snickers ad with Al Stewart?
On the motorbike?
He's just full fucking cracking the shits on.

(31:34):
I love those ads.
Yeah, me too.
You know yourself when you're angry, when you're hungry.
Yeah.
Oh, fuck.
That one with Elf though.
He gets yeeted off the motorbike and he cracks the shits on hardcore.
Yeah, no, that lives rent free.

(31:55):
Yeah.
Yeah, absolutely.
How many ads back in the day live rent free in my head?
Some great ones.
See, if I said to you, if I said to you, 1300.
That was in my head.
That was what I was going to say to you.
1300, 6,000, 5006.

(32:20):
That's ingrained in our heads, in millennials' heads.
That's ingrained.
Yeah, wow.
All the time.
That was literally what popped into my head when you were like, oh, if I said it, I was just like.
Some great ads.
What was that Yellow Pages ad?

(32:41):
Oh.
It's out in the windows, you fucking, I forget the name.
Janet?
Maybe?
I don't know.
That's a good one too.
I don't know what I'm talking about, but I'm just, oh gosh.
Maybe the cab, the Yellow Cab one.
I used to like that one for some reason.
I don't remember that one.
It's just cause the jingle.

(33:03):
I only call the Yellow Cab in days that end in Y.
We didn't have that one cause we didn't have Yellow Cabs.
Yeah, yeah, that's right.
That's a big smoke thing.
Bundaberg didn't have cars back then.

(33:25):
I went from looking like a big fatty in my hoodie to fucking, yeah.
That reminds me of a fantastic song.
Hoodie, bless Nessau.
Black Hoodie by the Bloody Cow.
Feel happy in my hoodie on a Friday.
Oh, good song.

(33:47):
Anyway, I digress.
Yeah, don't burn out.
So yeah, look, take a break.
There's a, we haven't talked about a quote in a very fucking long time.
Yeah, it's been a long time.
And I was like, you know what?
Fuck it, I'm going to find a quote today.
I've got a really fucking good one.
Just because you take breaks doesn't mean you're broken.

(34:08):
Curtis Tyrone Jones.
He's a mental health author, motivational kind of speaker.
Yeah, yeah.
I thought it was really cool.
But it's like so relatable.
I love it.
That's good.
It's good to have me on the other sides.
I really like it cause.
It's so fucking obvious.
Like just cause you take a break, obviously you're not broken.

(34:31):
Yeah, but I think, I think the way it's coming, like in terms of like feeling burnout,
you're overworking or you're working so hard, you're working towards a goal and you feel like if you stop,
you're not going to, you're not going to hit that goal.
I guess so.
So I like it.
Like it's, I, cause for a long time I was like that.

(34:52):
I didn't feel like I deserved a break because I felt like I had never reached my goal and I hadn't reached my goal.
And then like the process would just keep repeating itself.
Like I would keep burning out and I would fall back and I burn out and fall back.
Once I realized that it was important to take breaks in between,
that's when I was able to start hitting some goals and making some progress.

(35:14):
So I'm just a masochist.
If I start getting burnout, I used to be like this, but if I start getting burnout,
then I'll push that.
I used to push that burnout even further and be like,
let's see how far I can push this until I fucking break.
Yeah.
When I, when I, when I get to that sort of point,

(35:36):
like I'm just a danger to myself more than anyone else.
Like I, I go out of my way to like hurt myself more than, more than other people.
Yeah.
So, you know, get used to get real bad burnout and just be like,
let's fucking stoke this little fucking fire.

(35:57):
See how far you can let it go.
Fair enough.
I don't know.
It was like a punishment kind of thing for me.
Like I'd just punish myself.
I always blame myself for why I was feeling down or whatever.
Yeah.
Okay.
Fair enough.
I'm glad you don't do that anymore.

(36:19):
I'm not worth it.
Yeah.
Fucking life's hard enough.
I don't need to make it any worse.
Just crossed.
That's exactly right.
I was doing a good job fucking myself and then life was just like,
Oh, you left yourself wide open.
Even if I didn't, it was going to make itself fit anyway.

(36:45):
Oh shit.
Oh, well, that was good.
I really enjoyed talking about burnout.
It's been something or a topic that we've really wanted to,
I guess, talk about for a little while.
Haven't really spoken about how to fix it though.
No, not really.
They take breaks.

(37:06):
I mean, there's other things like maybe talk to someone.
We say that every week.
I do say that nourishing creativity can help with burnout.
And I guess it depends what you suffer,
what the root cause of your burnout is.
Like if you're suffering from burnout,
because you fucking creative,

(37:28):
then obviously trying to stimulate that shit's not going to be good.
So it depends like, you know, what area of your life you're,
you're struggling with your burnout.
Like if you're really struggling with your friendships and your relationships
and stuff, obviously don't throw a fucking party.
Maybe spend a weekend in by yourself and do some fucking painting or whatever.

(37:51):
You know what I mean?
And the same as like, you know, work, if you, if you burnt out at work,
maybe see if you can switch roles for a little bit.
Or maybe, you know,
make an extra day off that week.
Yeah.
Mental health days are a thing.
Yeah.
Yes.
Yes, they are.

(38:12):
They're important.
Yeah.
That's like, that's really glad you said that taking mental health days
and taking that time to recoup is a way to avoid burnout.
Yeah, exactly.
Like burnout within your place of employment is a real fucking thing.
And people don't really acknowledge it often enough.

(38:36):
You need to be able to address it before you get burnt out.
Yes.
Yes, exactly right.
So no, it's really important.
Even if, you know, you just take a few hours a week to yourself,
that can go a long way, you know, even the small breaks.
Yeah.

(38:58):
Yeah.
Yeah.
What was that?
I don't know.
What are you doing?
No, the little hand movement that you did.
Oh, the little...
The little...
Hey, hey, hey, okay, that's...
Little rascals.

(39:19):
That's cool.
Yeah, it's cool.
I haven't seen anything like it.
The little...
It's like your signature on stage.
The little kids on the Little Rascals movie.
Oh, see, I haven't seen Little Rascals.
Hmm, okay.
All right.
So you don't know who Alfalfa?
Alfalfa.

(39:40):
Oh, fuck me.
Don't worry about it.
Yeah.
Well, um, little squid and I here are going to take a break.
And we'll be back with you in a moment.
You're going to have a lot of old people upset at you.
Oh, goodness me.
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(40:03):
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Back to the show.
Welcome back to this week's episode of the Pain in Our Head podcast.
This week, we've been chatting about burnout.

(40:25):
Hmm.
Hmm.
Do a sick, can't you burnout?
Is that...
Yeah, there we go.
Look at my ego, see?
Two birds with a feather.
Ha ha ha.
I did that on Boombl4.

(40:46):
It's like your face was priceless.
Um, right.
Chat about some music now that I've really pissed Christian off.
Your face is so pissed.
I feel like I've been in so much trouble.
I feel like it's your pissed off dad face.
Like you're past the point of pissed off and it's like...

(41:09):
I don't know.
Anyway.
Chat a bit of song.
Oh, Power Wolf had an album come out this week.
Yeah, did they?
Yeah.
I fucking love Power Wolf.
Yes.
Yep.
That's some good music.
Lead singer sounds like an opera singer.

(41:32):
Hmm.
Things in English with a bit of Latin thrown in there.
It's fucking sick.
It's power metal.
Power Wolf.
Fuckin' great.
They're great.
They're really, really great.
I'm disappointed though, like the album...
Normally, like the last few albums they've done, they do like a deluxe edition.

(41:56):
And like the first part of the album is, you know, the new album.
And the second part of the album is like they get a whole bunch of bands to cover their songs.
Oh yeah, okay.
And I love that shit.
But this time they didn't.
It's like a three-part deluxe edition though.
So it's the album and then it's like a live album and then an orchestral version of it.

(42:23):
Yeah, okay, cool.
Yeah, cool, but no.
Hmm.
Cool album so far.
Had a bit of a look at it.
I've enjoyed it.
The singles that came with it were great.
I've listened to one of them.
I think you sent me one.
You've listened to two.
1589 and The Saints and Sinners.

(42:50):
Yes, yeah, yeah, that one's awesome.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, great.
Yeah, yeah, really, really cool.
I had that one.
That's the good one.
Yeah.
But yeah, no, I fucking, I love Power Wolf.
I've been listening to them for a couple of years now and enjoy the shit out of them.
Yeah, they're good.
I didn't really know about them until you showed them to me.

(43:15):
I know, I'm very impressed.
Really like their stuff.
So, I might have done that for each other.
We've shown each other some new stuff that neither of us knew.
Like you got me into Cold Rain.
Yes.
Grateful for that.
Yes.
Yes, absolutely.
Well, I'm actually quickly going to talk about someone that you got me into because they

(43:40):
brought out a new song.
Ghost.
Damn it, that was what I was going to talk about.
Fuck.
Yeah, well, lucky I'm here and I'm reading your mind.
Yeah, I couldn't remember.
I was like, oh, Power Wolf.
Ghost brought out a new song.
Yeah, yeah, I don't mind it.
I love it.
It's okay.
But just Ghost in general.
The video clip is fucking sick.

(44:02):
Yep.
Because the future is a foreign land.
Yes, good song.
Yeah, really, really good song.
I fucking love Ghost.
Yeah, yeah, I can't believe I'd never heard of him before until you showed me.
Yeah, Marionne Cross just, I can't get over that song.
Yeah, that's really cool.

(44:23):
So they've gone through and they've re-uploaded videos for some of their songs to put some
wicked animation to it.
I think it's pretty cool.
Yeah, one of the guys I used to play indoor beach volleyball with got me into them.
He was like, you ever listen to Ghost?
I was like, no.
He was like, check out, I don't know how to pronounce it, Sirice or Sirus.

(44:48):
C-I-R-I-C-E.
Yeah, Cyrus.
Anyways, he told me to check out that song and I was like, okay.
So I took a look and I was like, okay.
I'm a messy fan now.
Yes, very, very cool.
Swedish rock band.

(45:09):
Tobias Forge.
Yes, the Swedes do it really well.
The production is just, and Swedish mixing engineers are just unbelievable.
I don't know how they do it.
Really, really good.
They might not even have a Swedish mixing engineer.
I'm just assuming.
Who knows?
But yeah, really cool.

(45:32):
Really, really cool.
He was in like a black metal band before it, I'm pretty sure.
The main dude?
Yeah.
Yeah, okay.
Wouldn't expect it if he listened to Ghost.
Listening to him sing on Ghost is very different to his previous band.
You showed me something.
I did.

(45:53):
Yes, and I was very amazed that he could do that and do what he does in Ghost.
Kind of like when you listen to me sing.
Yes, it shouldn't be possible for you to go that high.
No, it shouldn't.
You just have no bright.

(46:16):
Yeah, that's really cool.
I haven't really had a lot of other music other than that that you've shown me, really.
It's that Power Wolf and Ghost haven't had any other music come across.
Really?
No, I haven't had anything that come across my table and I'm like, yep, that's cool.
Other than obviously what we've already talked about.

(46:38):
See though, that was weeks ago now.
I'm talking like, oh, it's been a couple of weeks.
I thought you were saying that I haven't introduced you to other bands that you really liked
and I was like, it fucking slows me down.
The list goes on.
Like just on and on.
Yeah, so I haven't really been listening to too much recently, but I'm about to start

(47:02):
binging Bad Flower again.
Oh, actually they released another single.
Oh, is that better than the last one?
No.
Yeah, I'm a little bit worried.
You know, when one single comes out and you're like, it's okay, I don't mind it, but hopefully
it doesn't go in this direction.

(47:23):
And then yes, they released a new single called Detroit and I like the meaning behind it.
I like the lyrics.
I like what it means.
I just don't like the production and how it sounds.
It's all of a sudden it's gone way too pop and I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, come
back to your alternative stuff because that's why I really like you guys.

(47:45):
So hopefully they don't play those songs when they come in a couple of weeks time because
they are Sunday week.
I'll be seeing them.
I am very excited.
So I'm going to start listening to them again and start binging all their stuff.
So yeah, hopefully they play my favorite songs, but we'll see.

(48:09):
Yeah.
Yeah.
But anyway, concerning.
It always is concerning.
Like, yeah, especially when it's a band that you really enjoy and they just completely
change direction with a new album and you're just like, I don't know about this.
Yeah.
Well, they're my top, like in my top three.

(48:31):
So I'm very concerned about it.
But anyway, it is what it is.
That the big jobs you do, you do get that on the big jobs.
That's their art.
They can go whatever direction they can, even if they're fucking wrong.
Yes, yes, yes, yes.
Yes.
Hmm.

(48:52):
We'll see.
Hopefully.
And I'm just, hopefully they've just released the ones that were like mediocre.
And when they dropped the album, it's gonna slap.
So yeah.
Yeah.
Fingers crossed.
Yeah.
Yeah.
How devastating would that be if the bad flower album sucks and then the see their album sucks?

(49:13):
No, this see their album isn't gonna suck from the first song from the single.
I'm like, yeah, this is only just a taste.
Cause they never, no, they never do that.
No, their history of releasing music, their singles have always been like, like middle.
So, and I always like, I always liked the ones of theirs that are popular as well.

(49:38):
So I'm not, I'm not worried at all.
Mine just set me.
Yeah.
I'm gonna love it.
Anyway.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
Don't get me started about that.
You see, yes, you've seen Let the Weapon.
We've had this, we've had this conversation.
Anyway, nevermind.
My song, I wasn't really gonna talk about songs.
I didn't really have one.
Then I'm like, I looked up burnout songs on Google.

(50:03):
Cause I was like, I got nothing to talk about this week and completely forgot about a song
that I really like of a band that I really like that we haven't spoken about on the podcast.
And that is Green Day.
I love Green Day.
They were right.
Oh, I love Green Day.
Really liked it when I was younger.
Like, you know, I haven't listened to them ages.
I feel like maybe I'm going to go, go back and listen to some of their, some of their stuff,

(50:25):
but Boulevard of Broken Dreams.
Yeah, that's a good song.
Good song.
Holiday.
Holiday.
Yep.
Another really good song.
21 Guns.
Really liked that one.
So, yes.
But the burnout, it's called Burnout by Green Day.
Really cool.
It talks about burning out.
Yeah.
Yeah.

(50:46):
Lyrics are great.
Sounds, you listen to the first 10 seconds and you're like, oh yeah, that's Green Day.
It's one thing I really like about Green Day is it, it's great.
You know, you can listen to 10 seconds of any of their songs and you're like, oh yeah,
that's Green Day.
So, okay, cool.
You know, same sounding guitars, same, you know, kind of vocal, same sort of production.

(51:11):
Yeah.
But this is good when you just fit into a pocket and this is what it is.
So anyway, Green Day, Burnout.
Go check it out.
Sorry.
No, it's okay.
Look, that's probably all we've got time for this week.
My face went so red when I yawned.

(51:34):
Satisfying yawn.
You're a red and blue smurf.
Look more like a oompa loompa.
Wow.
We spoke about parodies last week.
I don't know why we didn't bring this up.

(51:55):
If you've seen the parody movie, I think it's called Epic Movie.
Yeah.
I used to love all those sorts of movies.
They were a big thing for a while there.
Oh, they were.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, it's good.
That made me laugh at the movie.
I saw a clip from the movie yesterday or this morning on Instagram.
It made me laugh.
I also didn't talk about the Beards.

(52:17):
Oh, yeah.
You didn't talk about the Beards.
They're a band that make me laugh.
I love the Beards.
Yeah, the Beards.
Yeah, they came up for me the other day.
If you consider having sex with a bearded man.
Yeah.
Great song.
I saw that one.
I thought I sent you a song too.
Oh, yeah.
Respect the Beard or something.

(52:39):
Respect the Beard.
Obey the beard.
Yeah, obey the beard.
Don't know who it was by, but it was cool.
It was funny.
Very well thought out.
Obey the beard.
Next week.
BPD.
Yeah, let's do it.

(53:01):
Yeah, let's do it.
Let's chat about BPD.
Yeah.
Excellent.
All right.
End of episode.
All right, guys.
Welcome to this week's episode of the Pain in the Head podcast.
We're going to be talking about BPD.
Christian, what do you think about BPD?

(53:22):
Fuck BPD.
And we'll see you next week.
Good stuff.
But we will see you next week.
Thank you very much for listening.
Be sure to go and check out the YouTube.
If you're listening through a streaming service,
we've chucked up a few more reels.
I chucked up a reel today, actually.
I forgot to tell you.
It's boring.

(53:44):
Really?
You can blame AI.
I'm using some AI at the moment to test it out, see how it goes.
What was it?
There was a lot more talking about the Adam Sandler movies.
You know, it's amazing.
Yeah, I know.
But, you know, I don't have a lot to choose from.
So I was like, yeah, let's see how we go.
But yeah.
Didn't that come off of the laughter episode?
Yeah.

(54:05):
I would have thought there'd be heaps of shit to do.
Yeah, that's what I thought.
And the AI just...
No, they didn't provide the goods.
So I'm going to have to go through and make some myself.
But there are more reels coming up.
So be on the lookout for that.
And I've got a best of video on the way as well.
So that'll be exciting when I get that finished.

(54:26):
Anyway, that's all for now.
We'll see you next week.
Thanks for tuning in.
Thanks for listening.
It's OK to not be OK.
Obey the beard.
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