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What's going on everyone?
Howdy.
I was waiting for the Caleb here.
There we are.
Welcome to this week's episode of the Pain in Our Head podcast.
What's been happening this week?
Last week?
This week?
It's Monday.
I don't know.
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What happened on the weekend?
How was your weekend?
Vomited.
Oh yeah, totally.
Talk me through that.
Yeah, that was fun.
Yeah, what did you do?
I was just going to go and get some coffee.
I was just going to go and get some coffee.
I entered a hot wing competition.
The guys at work signed me up for it.
I didn't like willingly enter it.
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I caved into peer pressure, which I'm really fucking bad at.
Go on, you won't.
Oh, fuck off, let's go.
Here we go.
Away we fucking go.
So yeah, and I don't normally have that much hot sauce when I do do hot sauce.
I've had some really fucking hot hot sauces before and I've never vomited, but we don't
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use that much hot sauce when we do have them.
So they just slathered the fucking side of the wing with this hot sauce.
And I was like, there were seven of them and I got to the sixth one and fucking yeah, just
blue chunks.
Geez.
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Blue chunks.
So was there different hot sauces on like different wings or was it the same hot sauce
across all wings?
Like this is different hot sauces that you had to go through?
Yeah.
Yeah.
So it started off at like, you know, weak to go to fucking kill you.
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It's like a waiver.
Oh really?
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
What?
Okay.
It can cause like cardiac distress.
Yeah, I guess that's true.
Or it can cause you to blow chunks.
Yeah, that's not a worry.
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Well not bad.
It went pretty well too from what you told me.
Yeah, it went all right.
I could have done better, but here's what it is.
Hmm.
What'd you try it again?
Yeah, fucking A. Next time I'll make sure I've actually got a bit of preparation up my
sleeve and I'll toughen myself up.
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Do some practice.
Hmm.
Yeah.
Start drinking hot sauce.
Through a straw.
Suck.
Yeah.
That's a straw, isn't it?
To suck.
Sucks to suck.
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Hot sauce.
That's it.
That's really the exciting part of my week.
I did fuck all during the week and then Sunday I did the hot sauce, hot wings.
And yep, that's about it for me.
What about you?
It wasn't too bad.
Pretty good weekend.
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I was away most of the weekend, as you know.
You were with your mum on the weekend, didn't you?
No, I did not.
Very nice.
We did lots of things.
We did so many things.
But yeah, no, it was, as you know, Tyler's birthday on last week.
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So yeah, we spent the weekend doing lots of different things.
Yeah, went and saw some dolphins and shit and some whales.
I was kind of troll her on Facebook.
Hmm.
But I saw that like you'd been tagged in her like birthday weekend post and it was like
a cute photo of you two.
And it was like a little fucking thing that she'd written about, you know, it was a great
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weekend and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
I was going to comment on the photo of you two together and be like, so that's where
my man spent all weekend.
Nah, she probably wouldn't appreciate that.
She cracked the shit and then Caleb would suffer for it.
So I was like, nah.
But it was good.
It was good.
Very good.
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But anyway, looking forward to a big week of work.
And your football team lost again.
Well, yeah, for the last time this year, thank God.
Don't have to worry about that for another six months, which is nice.
Hmm.
I mean, she got no excuse to not be on the computer all weekend.
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That's right.
Yeah, exactly.
Because you spent the whole weekend with your missus.
So now it's my fucking turn.
You fucking listen here, Taylor.
She won't even hear this until after the weekend.
Fuck.
Damn it.
So it was good.
But no, looking forward to the week.
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It's not a lot been happening this last week.
Nothing really too exciting popping up.
I haven't even been looking at too many reels or memes or getting my social media fix.
Yeah.
I'm not lazy, but like, yeah, I just backed right off on social media.
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I just haven't really paid much attention to it at all.
Sometimes it's easy to do that.
You just forget about it.
It's kind of-
It's good.
Yeah, it is.
It is good having a break from it.
Yeah.
I'm in a walking meme factory.
You do get some funny things from it though.
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You do.
Like how much of our conversations do we include memes and reels?
Not going to date a day.
Every day speech.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
Of course.
Yeah.
Well, I mean, for a whole two weeks there, we were going on about how we just wanted
to go around and kick us out of the landmine.
Hock too.
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Yeah, hock too.
The thing at the moment is the Australian break dancer.
There's so many on there.
I think the best one I've seen-
I love the black fella guy with the- he uses the voice from the ABC show.
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I forget what it's called, but it's like indigenous comedy, but I forget what it's actually called.
Oh, black comedy.
That's it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So he's like, and he's like, cut it with that.
What's this look?
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What's this look?
And then it's like, yeah, showing the moves.
Yeah.
I fucking love that skit too.
Like that's amazing.
Yeah.
I've seen a fair bit of it.
It's good.
Yeah.
Really good.
I did enjoy that.
Same as, as well, where he's like ripping on not being black enough.
He's like being too white.
Oh yeah.
And like listening to Shania Twain and shit.
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Oh fuck.
Love it.
He gets arrested by the cops for not being black enough.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That was good.
That's good.
I was done in- let's try to think.
Yeah, it was.
But I think that was, oh yeah, it's the rough from up here in Queensland.
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Probably.
I can't remember.
Anyway, doesn't matter.
Very good.
But yeah, those memes have been funny.
Well, some of them, there's a lot of them.
I think my favourite one's the, when I spray bug spray, the cockroach on the ground.
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It's got the break dancer.
Anyway.
She was fucking atrocious.
Yeah.
I don't know what the whole idea behind it was, but now the most trending thing over
the last couple of weeks.
So maybe that was the goal.
If that was the goal, then congratulations.
I don't know who was more successful though.
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Like her break dancing or that fucking French guy knocking the pole off with his pole.
Oh yeah, I did say that.
That was actually me.
Oh yeah.
The pole.
That was a maddie leder done.
Yes.
Oh, what are we talking about today?
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This is terrible.
What a good segue.
This is why people have body image issues.
Cause there's French guys with big fucking dongs.
Everyone gets to see it cause it gets put all over social media.
It's great.
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Oh, good segue.
Oh yeah.
What a, I mean, what a way to go out.
Yeah.
It's like, Oh, I lost, but did I really?
Yeah.
Can't be too upset about that.
I don't know.
Hmm.
But yeah, good segue.
We were going to talk about body image this week and the effects it can have on your mental
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health.
Hmm.
That sucks.
Hmm.
Hmm.
I think it'd be a phase.
Have you heard that?
Just a phase.
You'll, you get over it.
Yeah.
Hello.
So I brought it up.
Thought it might rally up a little bit.
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Not just a phase mom.
I'm 12 now.
Do what I want.
Fuck if I had said that at 12 years old, it would have been fucking left, right.
Oh, right.
I'll come home when I want to come home.
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I remember I got fucking chewed out hard in it's like year 11 or 12.
So I was like 15, somewhere between 15 and 17.
I turned my birthday is like the end of the year.
So like in year 11, I was 15 for most of the fucking year until I turned 16.
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Anyway, so yeah, somewhere between 15 and 17.
One of my like friends, she was waiting to be picked up from school and like I stayed
around to wait with her so she wasn't alone.
And I got home late.
I got fucking chewed out for it.
Because I was home late.
It wasn't even like late late, it was still like afternoon, it was before fucking five
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o'clock, I'm pretty sure.
But because I didn't arrive home when I was meant to, whoo-wee!
And when I said why, I was doing something nice.
That's what you get for doing something nice.
Yeah, fuck it.
Yeah, no, world's changed.
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I see kids rolling around at stupid...
I fucking hate kids.
Really, really though, like you think about when we were their age, how the older people
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fucking thought we were dickheads.
And now the older people and you look at the, you know, I want to say like 15 year olds,
you look at them and you're like, I just want to introduce you to a brick wall.
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But there's all this slang now.
It had so much slang too.
But I was trying to think about it, right?
I'm like, what did we have?
What did we have?
Well, maybe I've forgotten.
I think I've just forgotten what was cool back then.
You remember how fucking popular that was.
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Oh, shit.
Okay.
All right.
Point made.
Yeah.
That's better than what...
Dude.
Yeah, dude.
Dude.
Dude.
Bro.
Oh, he got snapped.
Oh yeah.
Yeah, he got snapped.
Yeah.
You'd think what the fuck was that?
But yeah, that was common.
I'll snap him.
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I'll snap.
Yeah, dad's just like...
What?
What the fuck's snapped?
At least they were kind of like, I don't know, normal words.
And now there's like skibiz and skibiz.
And now they're like, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I was like, skibiz and skidoo and reez.
Ewing.
And...
He was gooning on me.
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Yeah, I don't know.
I don't fucking...
They're made up words.
I use some of it.
I'll say no cap.
When have you ever said no cap?
When I've been a dickhead.
Oh, okay.
You were a dickhead all the time and I've never said no cap.
I said it twisted on the weekend.
Oh, did you?
Okay.
I was like, no cap.
Like we're all going to be in the same room.
Oh, no cap.
I'm like, no, no cap.
I was like, no cap.
Like we're all going to be in the same room.
get all the time and I've never twisted on the weekend.
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Oh, did you?
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
I was like, no cap.
Like we're pushing.
You're just trying to get in with the young folk.
No, it'd be cool around twisted then.
Yeah.
Hmm.
Up twisted.
He's never listened to this.
Yeah.
I don't know.
It's just weird.
It's different.
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But yeah, I think that's probably the only like modern slang that I would use would
be no cap.
No cap.
No cap.
Hmm.
Finna bust.
You see, this is like, it sounds like you're talking gibberish to me.
Finna bust.
Finna bust makes sense though, cause you just gone a bust, but they've obviously
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missed it and hit the F instead of the G.
Finna bust.
Finna bust.
It means you got a nut.
Okay.
I didn't know that.
Yeah.
Hmm.
Okay.
Hmm.
I wonder how long before these words like start getting like banned in schools where
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they're like, no, you can't use them anymore.
Maybe like a weird.
I must admit, like I hate the whole like Riz and like Muen and fucking shit like that.
Like that's annoying.
And like the, like the body actions that go with some of it too, like the body
actions, I haven't seen that.
We're not going into it.
Okay.
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Interesting.
It's.
Yeah.
I did say a funny reel the other day of a, of a dad going through a Macca's drive
through.
I saw that.
And his daughters are in the back.
It's like, no, stop.
He's just fucking.
Yeah.
He's just fucking all these, yeah, all these, uh, all these new slang terms.
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They're embarrassed to the shitter.
That's great.
Hmm.
I would do that.
Would you?
Yeah.
You're fucking A.
Yeah.
Oh, no, probably not.
My anxiety, you get the better of me.
Hmm.
And I wouldn't want to put my kids through that sort of embarrassment either.
Yeah.
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Fair enough.
Hmm.
Anyway, uh, body image.
Let's have a chat about that.
My body image is doing really well because when I hopped on to do the recording, you
told me how sexy I looked and I was just like, fuck it.
All I did was had a shower.
Yeah, I did.
I thought I said you were looking good.
Yeah, he was looking good.
He had it all.
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What was it?
You said it was wet.
You see how the shower.
It still is wet.
Look at it.
It's like, it looks, yeah.
It's still wet.
Yeah, it looks, yeah, it's dry now.
Oh, no.
Nice.
I'm surprised it hasn't washed out yet in blue hair.
It is a little bit like you can see like, oh, the roots are starting to.
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Nice.
Redye it.
I was going to have to keep redying it until the fucking bleach wears out.
Otherwise, I'm going to have this fucking weird yellow top.
You'd love that too.
You'd fucking love that.
You wouldn't let me live that shit down.
You'd bully me that hard that I'd ask like fucking an hour before I went to get more hair dye.
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Yeah, well, I'm going to have my fun somehow.
Anyway, we're talking about body image.
That's a fucking another good segue.
Caleb picking on my hair.
Yeah, yeah.
What is body image?
Image of my body.
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Image of my body.
Good start.
Good attempt.
An attempt was made.
Well, let's start with the aspects.
AC yourself.
It is AC yourself.
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Yes.
Hmm.
Body image.
Yeah, that thing we're talking about the other night, I asked you on Discord.
Do you do that?
I totally just started doing it then.
I don't remember what that was.
When you were just chilling and I was like, oh, yeah.
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I like leant back and I was chilling.
I was like, wait a fuck a minute.
I'm not even going to go into that.
No, we're not.
We're not going into it.
I just thought you didn't.
I tried to throw you off.
Yeah, we did.
Hold on.
So we're doing a bit of reading.
You sent me a great resource.
I didn't know this, but there are four aspects to body image.
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I didn't know that either.
I had no idea.
Yeah.
I just thought that was a good idea.
I just thought body image was body image, just how you fucking see yourself.
Yeah, how you saw yourself, how you felt about how you see yourself.
It's probably a good way to sum it up.
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Feels like man can's.
Man can do.
Been many episodes since that one.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, that was a long time ago.
But this is episode 30, by the way.
No fucking way.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Why?
So there's.
I can't.
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I'll cap you through the screen.
With your pea shooter.
So there's this perceptual body image.
What's that mean?
I don't know.
This is what, this is what I'm reading.
Now it means it's what you see in terms of your body image.
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So your perception.
So your perception isn't always reality.
How you see yourself isn't always what it is.
You might perceive something differently to what others see.
So for example, you might see your hair as good and nice and others.
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Why couldn't you use yourself?
For example, you fucking dick.
No, but yeah, no.
So that's, that's what it means.
You could think something looks bad, but in turn it actually looks really good.
Or it's not as bad as what you think it is.
That's, that's.
But going the opposite way.
You could think it's really good and everyone else thinks it's bad.
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That's wrong.
That's how you get anxious.
Cause then you're like, is it really?
And then someone tells you, no, no, it's not.
You're like, ah, like when you're like, my head looks really good.
I was like, no, it doesn't.
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It's pig on Christian day.
So yeah, for, for example, you may think you're overweight when you're actually thin.
That's a big can of worms.
So I struggle with that all the time.
I think that, yeah, I think that you're overweight.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Fair enough.
Then I'd say a lot of people probably do.
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Hmm.
So yeah, that's the example.
So that's perceptual.
Hmm.
That's perceptual.
What else we got?
Effective.
Which doesn't really make, this is how you feel about your body image.
You may be happy about certain aspects of your body, yet dislike others.
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Yeah.
Feel and think are the same to me.
Like, no, I think there is a distinct difference.
It's like, I guess if your thinking is more like when you, that's more of a comparison,
I guess you can go like when you're thinking, go, I'm going to compare, but in terms of feel,
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you can be like, that's how you feel personally.
It's probably more thinking about the side where you're like, probably more the good things,
I'd say, because it's probably easy to go, I feel good about this.
Then I feel bad about this.
I feel good about how green my eyes are.
You got basic bitch brown eyes.
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I told they are puppy dog eyes.
Thank you very much.
So, oh, yeah.
All right.
Yep.
I remember that time you did the whole, like you look down at the camera and I was just
like, here we go.
Oh, shit.
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Um, there's cognitive.
So that's how you think about your body.
Am I reading the same thing?
No, no, I did effective.
That's how you feel.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah. Constant criticism and preoccupied thoughts tend to arise due to the aspect of body image.
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You may think you'd be more popular or had more successful dating if you were thinner
or more muscle.
Yeah, I guess that kind of makes sense.
A difference between thinking and feeling.
Yeah, that's exactly right.
Like, you know, my teeth are fucking weird looking, you know, those ones that push backwards.
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So it looks like home.
When I was younger, that was the thing.
Like I used to used to think I would be liked more if I was taller.
Oh, yeah, I know that now.
And finally, we've got behavioral.
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Last one.
Is how you act in regard to your body image, people unhappy with their body may choose
to work out more, try or restrict a diet or undergo a cosmetic procedure or get a fucking
face and neck tattoos and facial piercings.
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Yeah, that's that's one of my way of doing it.
Yeah, that would come under behavioral.
Yeah, tattoos and piercings, definitely.
Botox injections, all that lip fillers, all that sort of shit all comes under.
There's lots of different things that the world can do now, like.
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Options are endless.
Who do we have to blame for that?
Social media.
Yeah, yeah.
Cost a lot of money.
Do you think about the trends like back when I was like in my like in my day, my late teen,
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early adult years, it was all about the ripped bodies with no no body hair.
It was all about the ripped bodies with no no body hair.
And it was like, you know, I'm fucking hairy, like.
So for me, I felt really ashamed about it.
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Yeah.
Yeah.
And now it's the fucking opposite.
It's hairy dad bods.
Women want hairy dad bods now and it's because of fucking social media.
Yeah, I mean, it changes around a lot.
And I don't think you could say that one person's is the same as one other person's
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like kind of you and of their wants and stuff like that.
But yeah, it does change.
But you're right.
When I was younger, growing up as well, yeah, it was all about the having the big muscles
and all that sort of stuff.
Even like, you know, females copped it even worse.
It was like, oh, yeah, I don't hair and tan skin and fucking bikini ready bodies.
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And so.
Yep.
Now it's, you know, leaning a little bit more.
I guess and better, but still shit.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's it's hard to get past a lot of it, you know, especially with social media now
because it's so easy to see, you know, because we go back to that thinking one, which is
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the cognitive, like that whole, if I looked like that, I would have more followers on,
you know, TikTok or Instagram or whatever it is.
So, you know, you go down that, you know, go down that path because you think.
I think it was when I was a streamer, it was like, when I was a kid, I was like,
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I'm a streamer.
It was like, when I used to stream on Twitch, you'd think to myself all the time, man,
if I was a chick, I'd have way more viewers.
Yeah.
Yep.
That's exactly right.
I used to play really well and I was very interactive and shit.
And then you look at like someone, a female streamer with like piss poor quality, like
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video quality and you know, fuck all like banter.
Shit. And then they've got, you know, literally like 10 times my viewers just because they
got tits and it's just like, I can damn it.
Not that all female streamers are like that, but you know what I mean?
Like the whole just, you know, if I was a chick, I could do better.
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Yeah.
Yep.
Exactly.
That's a good example.
The, uh, the fireman calendars used to give me the shits when I was younger.
Fire.
What do you mean?
They gave you boners, not shits.
You didn't let me finish.
You didn't let me finish.
For different reasons.
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You didn't let me finish.
You gave me the shits because they're too expensive and I wanted one.
They gave me the shits because every time I went for a shit, I got a boner.
Like mom did one year.
I got the back of a tall door one year when I was younger.
Yep.
There was that.
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Yeah.
That's when you realized you were gay.
That's when I started shooting outside like a dog.
I didn't see that one coming.
Well done.
But, uh, but like even though it's, uh, you know.
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Sorry.
I'm doing the front yard too, just to scare the neighbors.
Make eye contact with certain dominance.
Best part is I used to live in a main road when I was younger.
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Fucking idiot.
But yeah, like they, you know, that's.
That was media before social media.
Like, you know, they used to do that.
You know, they've done that for a long time.
That's the same thing.
You know, they put, put that on a pedestal and that was, you know, what you should look like.
And, but it was the same with magazines as well before social media and all that.
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She came along like the magazines, media magazines, the exact same thing.
Um, so yeah.
Anyway, move past it.
Hmm.
So I just go to body acceptance.
I accept your body for how it is.
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Um, yeah.
So body acceptance versus body dissatisfaction.
Some of the issues that can arise with body image.
Um, so yeah.
There's three types of body acceptance.
There is body positivity and that's people who practice body positivity,
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have unconditional love for their body, no matter how they look or feel.
Comfortable and confident are key pillars.
That is not me.
That is not me.
That is not me.
I'll give it away.
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I don't know.
It's like all those times I stand in the mirror after a shower, just slapping my fucking dad gut around like fucking get skinny.
Does it work?
Nah.
No.
That's the new weight loss trend.
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Just beat yourself until you die.
I shouldn't need to clarify that, but that's a joke.
Bleep.
Just that whole section.
All I hear is babe and say make it with this.
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The next one.
Hit it.
Body neutrality.
Neutral point of view.
So you don't over emphasize positivity.
You don't focus on the negative.
You're in the middle or neutral.
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Are you?
Yeah.
I'd say so.
Seeing as we're ranking ourselves on this system.
But I have my bad days.
Like don't get me wrong.
Last week I didn't want to leave the house because I had a massive pimple outbreak on my forehead.
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I was like, no, I don't want to go anywhere.
I would have popped it for you.
You've been sitting there for a long time.
Let's not get into that.
It's gross.
All these pimple popping apps and like the people popping pimples and putting it on social media and people getting a kick out of it.
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That's fucked up.
I'm sorry.
I'm throwing Taylor under the bus here because she enjoys it.
Not here for it.
You enjoyed that.
The best part about being in a relationship is having someone to pop your fucking back pimples.
Oh, no.
No.
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Just.
Anyway, I'm not getting into that.
It's gross.
I am.
Serious, I get ready to gag.
Yep.
Stop.
I'm sharing some good stories today.
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You fucking shut your mouth.
You little bitch.
I don't fucking trust you not to throw me under the bus.
Well played.
So the last time body acceptance is body liberation.
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Instead of being positive all the time, body liberation promotes autonomy and diversity among body shapes and sizes, which is probably the one that I more relate to in regards to positivity.
I struggle with a lot of dissatisfaction in regards to my body.
But on my good days, it's like everyone's different.
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You can't control how you were born.
So some days I really wish I was fucking taller, but I can't control it.
So, you know, same as the whole growing up, like I wished I had wasn't as hairy, but these days I'm just like, I don't give a shit.
It's like if someone doesn't want to talk to me because I've got chest hair, then sucks to suck, bitch.
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See you later.
Yeah, well, that's it.
Like you get to that point where you sort of think like whatever.
It doesn't matter. Like, so what?
You can't change it.
Well, this is the fine line, right?
If I was fucking good.
Because in today's world you can.
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And that's where the problem lies.
That's where these mental health issues come in because it's not about the fact that everyone's different and we can change it.
You know, you can't change it.
Like, you know, just leave it.
It is what it is.
You can change it now.
And if you had the money, you could.
So that's where your mental health problems come in because people are like, there is no more of that.
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I'm happy with myself because everybody's different.
It's now I'm not happy with how I look.
I want to look like that.
I'm going to go pay for that.
Now I am going to look like that.
Yeah.
So it's a it's very bad.
It's a very bad cycle.
I don't like completely disagree with it, like in some situations, like, you know, there might be something that you find to be quite, you know, triggering.
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And I knew a chick who was completely flat chested, like, completely flat chested.
And she was really insecure about it.
So she went and got a job and, you know, changed her life.
I'm so cool.
Like, congratulations.
That's yeah.
Yeah.
And same as, you know, just fucking.
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This is.
Well, there's other things too, like nose jobs for people that are trouble like breathing.
Because I've heard a lot of stories of people who've when, you know, the way they're born and they've had trouble breathing, they have really bad.
You know, what was it? There's a sleep apnea.
I think.
Yeah.
So getting some sort of like plastic surgery done to their nose and fixing some of that are to change their life because, you know, fixed all that.
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So, yeah, there's definitely good with it.
But there is a lot of, you know, bad mental health problems that come along with a lot of the different sort of ones.
But it's like personally, I fucking hate lip fillers.
I think they look fucking ridiculous.
But.
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Well, I did send you that picture.
The hot sauce.
I looked like I had fucking lip fillers.
That's a cheap way of doing it.
Just enter a, enter a hot sauce competition.
I don't know if that was cheap.
I'd yeah, lots of toilet paper anyway, but I fucking I hate it.
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I hate lip fillers.
But at the same time, I'm not going to judge somebody for wanting to go out and get it done.
No, it makes them feel more attractive.
Yeah.
It's not their fault.
That's the one that's for a long time.
That's what society said was the fucking thing to do.
The whole like duck faces with the blown up.
Yeah.
It's yeah.
That's right.
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That trend.
Yeah.
I did it so bad.
But it was the way.
It was the way.
Yeah.
Yep.
It was the way to go.
Well, that's right.
No, I like it.
Each to your own and people are allowed to go off and do that thing.
Of course.
That's what it's there for.
It's sort of that.
I guess the thing that upsets me the most is.
Is the mental health the reason for the decision making?
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And, you know, because you think it's just a coping mechanism, right?
So, you know, we've done a whole episode on coping mechanisms and we always bring them
up, you know, about unhealthy and healthy ones.
It's just a matter of finding that line and what's healthy, what's unhealthy and that
kind of thing.
But yes, absolutely.
Everyone each to your own.
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Go and get lip filler.
That's what your face flick up there.
You're like.
I pay to see you get lip filler.
Oh, no, thanks.
I'm good.
I'm look on the same.
I'm not a fan of it.
Oh, no way.
I think it looks if we ever make it big and we've got a decent amount of viewers every
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week, I'm going to do a fucking poll and be like, if this gets a thousand likes, Caleb's
going to get lip filler.
No, no, no.
No, no.
I would pass up a hundred thousand views.
What?
You're fucking soft.
Don't do it.
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Off you go.
Do it for the views, you little bitch.
Do it for the views.
I'd do lots of different things, but yeah, I wouldn't do lip filler.
Would you eat a Carolina Reaper raw?
Yeah.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, say, that's a bad word for you.
I like my lips.
I have no, no insecurities over my lips.
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Fuck your lips too, baby.
Yeah.
So don't touch my clocks.
I can go on a topic again.
Yeah, we are going on a topic again.
Look, we've touched on almost everything.
Yeah.
There's some we can come back to.
We talked about social media and body image and how it affects your mental health.
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I'm just going to rattle through the list because we don't have time to go through all of them.
We've talked about some of these, but anxiety, body dysmorphia, depression, eating disorders, shame or guilt, financial strain, negative self-talk, poor self-esteem and preoccupation with weight.
I like that umbrella of mental health problems again.
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Yeah.
Yeah.
Those negative thoughts around your body image can spur on some of these things.
So it's important to understand if body image is what's affecting your mental health problems or issues and have a look at some coping mechanisms to put something into place to make you feel good.
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Go chat to someone about it.
Go talk to Christian.
He's an expert in body image mental health.
Oh, shit.
All right.
I love my body so much that I just decided to cover it in tattoos.
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I swear I'm going to get more face tattoos one day.
I'm going to come to South Australia and get a tattoo.
Should I do a blind one?
Let you choose.
Oh, that could go bad.
I didn't like that idea.
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I reckon we just get the pain in our head logo.
Not a bad logo.
I don't mind it.
I'm pretty happy with that.
I've got no color tattoos.
Everything's black and white.
I don't know whether I'll be able to see through shading.
It wouldn't be big.
No, but I haven't got a tattoo yet.
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So anyway, you'd be fine.
You'd be fine.
Don't be a bitch.
Anyway, let's have a word from our Caleb and we'll get it.
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Welcome back to this week's episode of The Pain in Our Head podcast.
Thank you for listening.
I was waiting for you to chime in on something, but I don't know.
I just thought you're good.
No, look, thank you.
Thank you for everyone for listening.
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This is episode 30.
We appreciate and enjoy all the comments that we do get.
I think I put one up this morning.
Yeah, early too.
I rolled into work at like 4.30.
She gets up so fucking early.
She always does.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Always has.
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Rolled into work at 4.30 and I had a YouTube notification.
I thought it was just going to be like a video promotion or something.
And I had a she was talking about the lightsaber in the background.
Why is she calling you Jay?
Hey, did she?
Yeah.
I didn't even.
There is a mistype.
Yeah.
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Have a laser sword behind you, Jay.
Right near your drums.
Oh, the funny thing is I was actually going to bring it up in this episode.
It's like, oh, it looks like you're the fucking lightsaber behind you.
That's why I changed it to that color because now it looks like the blue lightsaber.
It's very cool.
Yeah.
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But yes, anyway, so thank you very much for listening and that sort of stuff.
It's cool.
Next week she comments.
She's just like, no, I don't.
If she comments, it goes, yeah, your co-host is cooler than you.
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Blam.
I'd fly off to Queensland and kick your teeth in.
Stay away from my grandma.
Yes, but anyway, I've been talking about body image and so yeah.
And our songs have nothing to do with it.
No, our songs have nothing to do with it because some songs came out that we were very excited about.
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Very excited.
Very excited.
Please enlighten us.
I was going to fucking, I was just going to blurt out yours just to be a dick.
I tried that already.
So I've spoken about this person before and Caleb spoke about that person before.
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So whatever.
But Devon Townsend has a new album coming out tomorrow night.
Oh, that's soon.
I'm pretty sure.
I'm pretty sure it's the 27th.
That's cool.
There's a few things coming out tomorrow.
Correct.
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No, I'm so wrong.
It hurts.
Did you say September to me or October?
It's October.
It's the 25th of October.
So wrong on the dates.
Yeah.
So two months.
What am I thinking of then?
I'll sing them.
Tomorrow.
Yeah.
I'm excited for it.
Anyway, so yeah, Devon Townsend has released a song from his upcoming album.
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The song is called Power Nerd.
And as usual, completely stupid music video clip.
So stupid that it's amazing.
And it's just another really fucking catchy, well-produced Devon Townsend song.
It's great.
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It's kind of going back to like his heavier kind of stuff.
It's not heavy, heavy by any means, but it's heavier than the last kind of couple of albums he's done.
They're a lot more pop, I guess.
Alternative.
Yeah.
Anyway, it's really fucking enjoyable.
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And I was very excited to come across it.
I said, oh shit, new Devon Townsend song.
Well then.
I haven't listened to it yet.
I know I'm slow.
I send you songs.
You don't listen to it.
Yeah, I know.
I didn't even listen to music today.
I know.
Balls deep in that audiobook, weren't you?
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I am.
I'm enjoying it.
I'm really enjoying it.
I told you that you would enjoy audiobooks.
They just go so well with that job.
I don't know whether it's audiobooks in general or whether I'm just enjoying going through this because I've never read it.
Yeah, I've never read it.
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I've never read it.
I've only ever seen the movie.
So listening to it, even though I'm not reading it, but reading it, reading the actual text or going through the text, it's incredible seeing, like finding out different bits of information that you just would not have known unless you read it.
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No, I've never read it.
I've read The Hobbit.
Yeah, but I haven't read The Lord of the Rings.
I don't know.
I don't read.
I'm not a reader.
It's also Lord of the Rings.
It like tells the story of how Lord of the Rings, like, universe was made.
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Oh, I've watched a YouTube video on that, but I haven't read anything.
I'm a visual consumer, my visual learner.
Just pick one of those three books that I sent you today after you finished this one.
Well, I'm going to go through the whole series.
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I'm going to go through two towers and Return of the King.
I'm not going to start at one and then just not finish the rest, but I promise you I will choose one of those books and I will start listening to them.
It's on Spotify.
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Anyway.
Are you talking about your song, Will?
No, I'm good.
That's it.
It's a really great song.
I was really fucking excited about it.
Yeah, I can't wait for it to be on the Spotify playlist.
What's it about?
I don't even know.
I haven't paid enough attention to the fucking lyrics to.
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It doesn't really.
I'll pay attention to it tomorrow.
Yeah.
It's a very positive song though from looking at the lyrics.
No giving up, no giving in, no giving up when you know you can take it.
Okay.
Under Rise, put that shit on the shelf.
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Fuck yeah.
Cool.
Okay.
I'll have to give it a go because I really do like the other.
Some of the other work.
Yeah, I really do like the other stuff that we've got on the playlist already.
I think there's two songs we have on the playlist already.
We've got ER.
Yeah, and we've got Save Our Now.
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Good song.
Good song.
Good song.
Yeah.
Yes.
What's your song?
What is my song?
Well, a little while ago we found out that Cedar were bringing out a new album in September.
Very excited.
And last week on Friday they released another single for that album, Illusion.
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Your reaction was amazing.
That made my fucking day.
Really?
I couldn't believe it.
Seriously, I was having such a good day on Friday and I was like, I was waiting for something to go wrong because things were just going way too well for me.
And then you messaged me and was like, you know that you see the single came out?
I was like, there's no way because I thought you were pulling my leg.
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Seriously.
I don't think I do.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I was like, there's no way my day could get any better.
But no, it came out on Friday and amazing.
So good.
So, so, so, so good.
It is quite good.
It's a lot more alternative than their usual grunge.
So a little bit different, but they've dabbled in some of that alternative sort of style before, especially with his vocals and the kind of effects that they've put on his vocals is very not see the like it's quite different than.
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Maybe that's why I enjoyed it more.
Maybe.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Because I know you're not really a fan of like, I don't know, just the see the sound in general.
But yeah, it's quite different.
But that was awesome.
And then there's a little bit heavy as well, which is really cool.
And yeah, I just think it's really good song quite catchy.
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The thing I'm really liking about them at the moment, they did it with the other single, but they're the formation or the better word for it.
I know their songs so they are going to kill me because I should know this, but a way of songs put together, you know you think about your different parts like chorus and your verse and your British and no composition.
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There's another other word for it.
Anyway, it's going to kill me I'm going to think of it as.
Thank you. Yes, the structure.
When you look I can't believe I couldn't think of that I'm tired, give me a break.
I can degree in this field.
That's why it was killing me because I'm like I learned about this.
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The structure of what I'm really liking about this, the structure of their songs at the moment is that they're playing or they're doing the chorus as the instrumental, like early on so like the first instrumental breakdown that you hear is the, you know the chords from the chorus.
So it kind of gives you a taste of what the chorus is going to kind of sound like before you even get to the chorus. It starts off like you know kind of hits you in the face with a big, big, big, big chorus kind of sound or instrumental, then he pulls back a little bit for you know your verses, and then hit with the chorus.
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And I've noticed that cutting out a lot of bridges to see they used to be really big for the bridges right I guess bridges are kind of fading out now in structures in music in general.
We're not seeing a lot of bridges anymore or a lot of middle eights.
It's sort of just going to listen to it is depending on very much depending on what genre or style but I find like now it's very much, you know chorus, there'll be one or two verses or two verses nearly max.
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And then it'll just be chorus for the whole rest of it because that's the hook. That's the catch. Yeah, and that's what I'm gonna. Yeah, so definitely like very structured these days with like verse chorus verse chorus.
Repeat chorus. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely a little bit of an instrumental breakdown sometimes if you're listening to that particular style like metal or rock music, and then back to the chorus but very cool.
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And there was a solo, a small very small solo in in the song illusion, so I like to go back like early 2000s I guess is when it kind of stopped but it used to be like verse pre chorus chorus verse pre chorus chorus.
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Potentially another verse. Yeah, or a fucking bridge. Yep. And then, yeah, chorus, possibly outro. Yeah, yeah gosh outros.
Don't don't they are thing of the past.
Like, absolutely, it just we end with choruses now that is the, the outro. That's it.
So, gosh, I'm trying to think of some good examples but, yeah, old red hot chili peppers.
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But that's very, I think it may be like even Bon Jovi had like, yeah, choruses, like, you know, like, yeah, early 90s like late 80s music like fucking some real bang a fucking hook for pre chorus is just like,
charging up. Yeah, we haven't spoken about Bon Jovi Bon Jovi fan out yeah.
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Yeah, yeah, living on a prayer singing Bon Jovi many times. Yep, yep. No Bon Jovi very good. I do like Bon Jovi. I have spoken a little bit. I don't think I've been.
I don't think we've added them to the playlist. No, I'm sure I've like mentioned that like dad and grandma both fucking like really enjoy.
No, yeah. Yeah. Yep. Really cool. I missed the chance to see them live actually a few years ago now. But, very good. Living on a prayer. Some other ones that I like.
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No, it's my life. It's good one. Yeah, there's another one that I really like.
I can't think of a bad name. Yeah, it's a good one. There's one that's not as popular that I really like. I can't think of the name though.
But it's not the fucking better roses or I'll kill you.
Now that I know that you're going to get a video tomorrow.
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It's a good song. That's one. Yep. Fuck it. Yeah.
What's going on the playlist. I was thinking when you were like, oh, it's like one that's like not really.
I was just like, there's a song that I really fucking enjoy. And it's yeah. Yeah. I can't remember it. Yeah. Keep the faith. Keep the faith.
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Yeah. I'll throw that up on the playlist. Yeah. I haven't heard that for a while. It's a good song. Good song.
Yeah. I want to listen to that now. I'm going to go listen to that after this.
You got to listen to that Devon Townsend song. I can't listen to Devon Townsend first. Yes. Yes, dad.
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All right. Good stuff. That's it. That's us for the week.
Thanks again for listening. Next week, we will be back and we will be talking about
mental health and physical or the intersection of mental health and physical health.
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Are we? Wait, no, that's not what we decided on. I read the.
We're going to talk about the impact of trauma and adversity.
I love your. Well, we've got to listen now. This is great.
What on my shit the bed? Got the Barry White going on.
I've got a deep voice going on. What does it do that? All right. Well, we're going to do this with a deep voice.
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Thank you for listening to this week's episode of the Pain in Our Head podcast.
Next week, we will be talking about the impact of trauma and diversity.
So tune in next week. It's OK to not be OK.
Bye. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
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Yeah, baby. Yeah.