September 22, 2024 • 57 mins
Join Caleb & Christian in this weeks Episode of The Pain In Our Head Podcast, as they discuss the feeling of shame and embarrassment. Food, music, and some of their most embarrassing stories fill in this entertaining episode.
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Welcome to this week's episode of the Pain in Our Head podcast.
Thrilled to be here again this week.
I love wasting a whole afternoon fucking dealing with your shit.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what most people say.
But hey, it is what it is.
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Sucks to suck.
The 15 people that watch this on a regular basis enjoy it so.
They're not here for you?
Who are you here for?
Put a comment in the YouTube.
No, but they might not be.
They might be just here for my sexy drum kit in the background.
You think my grandma's here to watch you?
Yeah, well she knows that I'm the one that's always right.
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So let's not dig under that bridge.
This week we're talking about embarrassment this week.
This is going to be fun.
Embarrassed to fucking know you.
That's not nice.
You're in for it today.
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I'm in for it today, I know.
Yeah, yeah, I'll hold my tongue.
Yeah, so we're going to talk about embarrassment this week.
I got a great story.
I got a great story about embarrassment.
I got heaps.
I got heaps.
I do a lot of dumb shit.
You know this.
So you wouldn't expect anything less.
Everyone knows this.
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Anyone that's watched the podcast is just like, that guy's a fucking idiot.
He does dumb shit on the reg.
On the reg?
He sees dumb shit and he's like, I'm fucking with that.
Yeah, yeah, right.
Yep, yep, yep.
But they probably think the same thing about me too, like, and they'd be right.
What was the last dumb thing you did?
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Oh, fuck.
Don't have to think that far.
It was probably 20 minutes ago.
I don't know.
It's been a while since I've done something stupid.
Yeah, no, nothing comes to mind.
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I did something today.
The dumbest thing I did was got excited about fucking dinner plans.
That was fucking stupid of me.
I told you, don't get excited about it.
It's fine.
Not mad, just disappointed and a little bit angry.
Anyway, it's a good thing I'm in Queensland.
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Today I did something really dumb.
Kind of.
Kind of.
So I was training a new guy today.
I'm training a new guy.
The blind leading the fucking blind.
Oh, shocking.
Absolutely shocking.
Anyway, you know, with my job, we're going to fill up the truck at the end of a run.
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Yep, cool.
Go to the servo.
Petrol station.
What do you want to call it?
Servo.
Servo.
Servo.
And you got to give them the Odo reader.
Odomina.
Odomina reader.
I used to write it on my hand because there's no way I was remembering six digits.
Really?
Yeah, I remember six digits.
No problem.
No worries every time.
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Anyway, so I'm pretty good at remembering the six digits.
I take photos of the hour readings.
Every machine's got an hour reading.
It's like only four numbers and I'm just like ka-ching, ka-ching.
Yeah.
Because I don't fucking remember.
Well, you got to do it every hour.
So you don't have to do it every hour.
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No, you look at the start of the day when you turn the machine on, you look at the end
of the day when you turn it off.
Oh, yeah.
So you know, that's something that I would just remember.
Crazy.
Anywho, I'm telling the guy, I'm saying, yeah, you got to either take a photo or remember
the ODO or whatever it might be.
Anyway, I tell him, I go, oh yeah, these are the numbers and I can't remember exactly what
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the numbers were.
But the last couple of digits.
Six nine.
Was one one.
Oh.
Yeah, yeah.
Okay.
So when I told it to him though, I said to him, so let's say one, two, three, four, and
then I said, double eleven.
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But this is the best part, right?
He took me seriously.
I bet he fucking did.
I would have.
I would have put four ones down.
He's walked into the servo and he's telling the chick the numbers and he goes, yeah, one,
two, three, four, double eleven.
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And she goes, double eleven.
One one one one.
And he goes, double eleven.
Right?
He turns to me and I go, no, just double one.
You're a fucking idiot.
Anyway, it was a dumb thing that I did today.
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But you know, it does happen every day.
I do something stupid at least once a day.
I don't think I did anything stupid today.
I'm fucking.
Proud of you.
That's like a population sign.
Days without an incident.
Yeah.
Days without being a dumb fuck.
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You can write one.
Mine's at zero.
I honestly can't think of anything stupid I did today.
For once.
For once.
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Well, hit us with an embarrassing story then.
We're talking about embarrassment.
We're going to talk about the mental health side of it and how shame comes into it all.
Pick the best one.
Pick one I haven't heard.
I want a good chuckle.
I want a good laugh.
I should have thought about this, like leading up to it.
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Because I haven't really thought about like embarrassing fucking stories.
It's like there's so many moments that like, you know, you're going to sleep and your
brain's like, Hey, remember that time you did this?
Fuck.
Here's one for you.
Fucking just like sheer stupidity of it.
So like, I'm pretty sure I've been fucking pretty vocal about the fact I used to get
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bullied in high school and you still get bullied now.
Sorry, continue.
Anyway, so I used to try and use my words to like, you know, lash out.
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This is fucking embarrassing now that I'm talking about it.
This sucks ass.
Fuck you.
Fuck this episode.
Fuck it.
Here we go.
I can feel the cringe.
Fuck you, man.
There was an ad on TV.
Like I need to lay down some background here on this.
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There was an advertisement on TV.
It was about.
I'm going to do a pharmacies and it's like, you know, the television guys like walking
through the pharmacy talking about different things and like he drops a comment about like,
Oh, you know, and pharmacists make a lot of money.
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And like after he says that the pharmacist like walks up and he's like, Oh, and here's
your prescription for flatulence.
Cry talking about the fucking stupidity of this shit.
My brain put two and two together and got fucking seven.
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You need to understand the reasoning behind it.
I'm fucking crying.
This is bullshit.
I'm so fucking embarrassed.
I thought I didn't know what flatulence meant.
Like I was young, but I was like year eight.
I didn't know what fucking flatulence meant.
And I was like, that's a big fucking word.
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And I thought that the pharmacist was insinuating that he was lying.
You know, cause he'd just said like, and pharmacists earn a lot of money and he's like, here's
your prescription for flatulence.
And I was like, Oh, obviously it means lying.
Like he's exaggerating.
Like he's lying about it.
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There was a fucking time where I walked around and used flatulence in that context.
Thinking I was the fucking top shit calling people liars by saying that they had a problem
with flatulence.
For fuck's sake.
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How long did this go on for?
Like a year.
God, I got fucking tears.
I feel like fucking reached out right now.
Why did I have to go with like the worst?
Oh, that's fucking great.
Who ended up telling you, like?
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It was one of those, it was one of those just, oh fuck moments.
Someone actually used it in context.
They used the word in the correct context.
And it was just like light bulb, heart shatter.
Oh no.
That's embarrassing.
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That's embarrassing.
Yeah.
Yep.
I'm sure I'll never hear the fucking end of that one now.
No, no, I'm definitely going to use that word.
Completely, incorrectly.
Just incorrectly.
Yeah.
Fuck me.
Oh, that's great.
That's good.
Almost as embarrassing as running down the street with your dick flying around.
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I got one that almost tops it.
Oh God.
Yeah.
Let me have a drink first.
I feel like I'm going to fucking.
You're going to cry.
You're going to cry.
Okay.
All right, go on.
Hit me with it.
So this is, when I think back, probably one of the most embarrassing things I can think
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of.
I'm probably early teenager.
And all I remember is I'm having a, you just thought of another one, didn't you?
Great.
I can't wait to hear it.
I don't know if it's appropriate.
I don't know if this one's appropriate, but I'm saying it anyway.
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Yeah.
I'm so excited.
Use the discretion as advised.
Shit's about to go south.
If you don't want to hear fucked up shit, skip forward 10 minutes.
All I remember is I was at home and I've gotten up where I'm at home and I need to go to the
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toilet.
So I'm like, yep, cool.
I'm going to the toilet.
Is this to do with my fucking, my message about not pissing in your dream?
It's similar.
It's going to get there.
So anyway, I'm doing my thing.
I'm going to the toilet.
I'm like, sweet.
All I can picture is me just walking into the bathroom, walking to the toilet, lopping
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out my dick and going for a piss.
All of a sudden I get woken up because I was sleepwalking.
Yep.
Yep.
And mom wakes me up and I'm in the kitchen and I've stepped on the bin and it's a flip
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lid.
My cock's in my hand and I'm ready to have a piss in the bin.
And mom's like, what are you doing?
I'm like, I'm having a piss.
I'm like, I can hear you not.
Go to the toilet.
Because yep, I was sleepwalking.
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And yeah, there I was just cocking hand.
Mom's in front of me.
Here I am about to have a piss in the kitchen bin.
And I think she stopped me like midstream too.
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I think a little bit of it's actually gone into the bottom of the bin.
And oh shit.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's, that was embarrassing.
That was super embarrassing.
And I heard it from my brother and sister forever.
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I'm going to throw someone I used to work with under the bus here because I can top
that.
Oh yeah.
Okay.
It's not my story, but I'm fucking telling it.
So when I used to work at the ginger beer factory, they do employee recognition dinners
once a year.
Improvably.
Around like July, August, and it was basically exactly what it sounds like.
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It's just a dinner that the company throw.
They get everyone like globally to show up.
Oh yeah.
Well, yep.
And they book out like a venue and you know, food, drinks, all that sort of shit.
And they tried to limit the amount that we could drink, but never fucking worked.
People got really fucking drunk.
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And one of the leading hands got like super fucking drunk, like white girl wasted drunk.
Yeah.
Yep.
And so he's, you know, he eventually got home.
You know, like you got your master bedroom and you got the walk-in cupboard.
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Yep.
And then the walk-in cupboard leads to your ensuite.
Yep.
Have you had that?
I've had that before.
Yep.
So yeah, we used to have that in one of the houses we were living in, and that's what
this guy had.
Mm-hmm.
He got home pissed as a nit.
Decided that he had to go for a piss.
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So he went to the bathroom and had a piss.
He didn't make it to the bathroom, did he?
He just walked into the onslaught.
He just walked into the walk-in and started pissing all over that fucking clothes.
He's a bitch.
He's a bitch.
He's fucking threw him under the bus so hard.
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He fucking told us all.
He didn't want to tell a fucking soul.
She threw him under that bus so hard.
Oh, she's like, yeah, he walked in and he just started fucking pissing in the walk-in.
He stood there just fucking pissing all over the clothes and the carpet.
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He was embarrassed.
Yeah, I bet he was.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I've got another, but an old friend of mine, I'm going to tell their story because I was
there.
It counts.
It counts.
And he was very embarrassed by it.
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He didn't talk for the rest of the day.
No names.
No names.
No names.
We're at Schoolies.
Okay.
I didn't go to Schoolies.
I got a gym membership instead.
What, were you fat and grab 12?
No, I was skinny as shit and I wanted to get bulk.
Yeah, you wanted to bulk.
No, all right.
Fair enough.
Did it work?
No.
Got really strong.
Just didn't put weight on.
Anyway, we didn't-
I can't keep the fucking weight off.
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I didn't go to Schoolies either.
We ended up, a group of mates, a man of a group of mates decided, no, we're going to
go up to Noosa instead for a week.
And had a place up there.
Anyway, we got pissed.
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Like we did every night.
Anyway, one day, one of the days, mate, really, really pissed.
Super pissed.
Wasn't it like never really drank before.
And he's yelled out to us.
He's gone, I've got to go to the bathroom.
I'm going to throw up.
Like everyone get out of the way.
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Two of us are at the end of the hallway as it was a balcony down there and the bathroom
was down that way.
And it was like a tiled floor down the hallway.
And he's running.
He's like, get out of the way.
Like, I'm going to throw up.
I'm going to throw up.
Halfway down the hallway.
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He hurls up like a good meter in front of him.
In front of himself.
And then slips in it.
And rolls over and continues to jazz bucket, barf his guts up everywhere.
It stunk.
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Like we had the mop going and it sucked.
Cleaning all that up.
And it was just a mess.
We found him like an hour later just at the bottom of the shower floor.
Just fucking nude.
Just like, ugh.
Just terrible.
Poor guy.
Felt bad for him, but he was very embarrassed.
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Just the projectile.
Just the sheer length that he got on it.
And then slipping in it because he was running too fast on the tiles.
Lucky he didn't break a bone to be honest.
Did you ever try to make your face red?
You know how you're like, you're like, you know what I'm talking about?
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Like your clench.
It happens at least once a day.
Yeah, well, exactly.
Like you're trying to push a big shit.
You're like, but like, you know, you can make your face go really, really red.
I was sitting in class one day, like this is like year four.
So I was 10, nine, 10, somewhere around there.
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We were seeing who could make their face turn the reddest.
I'm sitting there like fucking just straining like a motherfucker.
One.
But I also like completely blew out both nostrils at the same time with just like this big,
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thick fucking explosion of mucus.
Like think like the biggest, thickest fucking golly you could fucking lock up.
And it came out like both nostrils, like a fucking mustache.
Full snot rocket.
And it just fucking this big fucking Texas mustache and snot.
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That's great.
Yeah.
Especially in school too.
Yeah, right.
You don't live in class.
You don't live that shit down.
No.
Like I think grade three, we're all sitting down in class for something.
I think it was an after school activity.
So there were older kids there as well.
And I've lent over too hard on one side and just let out an absolute massive belly fart.
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Everyone knew it was me.
And I was so embarrassed.
I never went back to that after school class, whatever it was.
When I cry and tell my mom, I farted in class.
Everyone hates me.
I could tell you another story about explosions, it was pretty fucking embarrassing though.
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You know you want it now.
You like it.
So what about losing the battle?
No, not that one.
No.
Explosive.
Anyway, there's some good stories there.
I could go on for hours.
There's probably a heap.
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Lonely Island song.
We've all been 16 once.
I was fucking 18.
What did a fellow look at you the right way?
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Fuck off.
There was some very enthusiastic dry humping with my first ever girlfriend.
Thank you very much.
Oh yeah right.
Worst part was coming home.
I was there with my grandparents.
I came home and my fucking mum and dad were visiting.
That's how I pulled dad aside and was like, dad what do I do?
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Because I just came home.
He came something.
There's some embarrassing ones though.
There's some crazy embarrassing ones.
Actually speaking of like fucking gentle embarrassing.
This one's not like this isn't dirty, but you'd fully understand this.
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Being a fucking teenager, just cracking a fat.
Nothing's going on.
You just sit there and you've fucking got a full blown rager.
What do you mean just being a teenager?
That didn't go away right?
That's not just me.
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Anyway it was like the end of the year in high school.
This was year 10 so I was 15 and it was the end of the year.
We'd finished all of our classes so we were just doing stupid shit.
We were all in the hall and it was me and two other guys in this little group doing
like a, it was a trivia thing, like a quiz thing in groups.
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Everyone was all grouped up.
Then someone had to go up and give the answer sheet to the chick that was writing it.
She was our science teacher.
She was an older lady.
It was my turn to take the fucking piece of paper up wasn't it?
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I just had an absolute full blown fucking rager.
Just fucking like yeah no it was just full fucking, yep, no it's right there.
And the guy's like oh it's your turn to go up.
It was Kurt and Shane and they're like it's your turn to go up and I was just like I can't.
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They're just like what?
I can't.
Why can't you?
I was like, I can't.
And they're like why?
Because these guys are fat, like they don't want to fucking get up.
And they just, they're like it's your turn.
I was just like, I was like I'll fucking bite the bullet.
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I was like I've got a boner.
I was like I can't get rid of it.
And they're like what are you gonna boner for?
What are you gonna boner over?
I don't remember her name now but yeah they were like, you got a boner over?
I fucking never lived that down did I?
No, no.
That's crazy.
Yeah it was one of my worst fears but I had to do public speaking in school.
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When it came around to my turn, you know, because you had to wait and sometimes hours
and you know people going through all their speeches and I don't know.
Shameful, shameful stuff.
That's what embarrassment is.
Yeah.
We can feel shameful when we do embarrassing things like that.
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Mmm, mmm.
A bit of a stigma around it.
Mmm.
So shame can become a little bit toxic.
I think that's what I've been reading into.
I know.
Mmm, mmm.
The difference between shame and guilt.
What is the difference between shame and guilt?
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Well you feel guilt when you know you've done something wrong.
We've done our episode on guilt.
Shame is more something you feel is not quite up to a moral standard.
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So you feel shameful for an event that may have come to pass because in society it doesn't
hold up as well as you think it might.
It's not looked on as well as you think it might be.
You know pissing in your trash can, pissing on your clothes.
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Like it's not quite the moral standard that society goes with.
It's not common.
So I think that's where shame comes into it and that's where you feel the embarrassment.
You feel embarrassed and then you feel shameful because telling someone about it you feel
like you'll be looked at differently or you'll be thought of differently for doing that act.
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I think the important thing to point out is like originally this was meant to be an episode
about embarrassment but then as we've looked into it we've come to realise that embarrassment
comes from shame and so then we're like well let's still roll with the embarrassment side
of it but also kind of dive in and explain how shame and embarrassment are the same kind
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of thing like where it comes from.
Yeah and how it can weigh on your mental health as well.
So yeah so shame can last days.
Gosh especially like you know some of those things that I spoke about earlier like yeah
days, weeks.
Bitch please I still think about flatulence.
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Like that's 20 fucking years ago.
Well you know what they say better out than in.
I can hate you.
Go piss in a trash can you prick.
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That's gonna be my fucking line from now on.
Go piss in a trash can Caleb.
It's always lick my left nut between us and now it's just gonna be piss in a trash can.
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Oh goodness me.
So yeah toxic shame, toxic shame it becomes toxic because you keep dwelling on it.
And you kind of get into that mindset of believing that what you did was so shameful so embarrassing
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that you're a bad person because of it and the people will look at you differently because
of it and you'll never feel like you know you can be you know hate throwing this term
around but normal.
That's the feeling that comes of it so that's how you can have toxic shame kind of weighs
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into it and what you kind of what your head sort of does or what your mind does to that
particular event and yeah.
I think like the key thing to take away from it is that like it's often like the shame
is it's caused by society.
Yes it's you know you feel embarrassed or shameful because of the way other people react
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to it and it's like you know you've done whatever you've done and it's you know someone might
say you're like oh why'd you do that like what were you thinking like what the hell
man and then you feel shameful about it or you feel embarrassed it's like yeah.
And as human beings we always crave approval that's just embedded into our genetics so
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that disapproval it kind of gives off symptoms of withdrawal and anger you know you can feel
withdrawn you want to curl up in a ball and disappear you want to be hidden because you
know you did that shameful thing you don't want anyone else to see it or talk about it
etc and then you know you can feel angry about it and you know those things can have further
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ramifications you know can lead to doing some unhealthy coping mechanisms that we've spoken
about I know.
Have we?
Absolutely bizarre yeah crazy.
All these things tie into each other.
Yeah yeah it's crazy yeah I think it's just because you know sometimes as a human we feel
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like we have to be perfectionists we have to be perfect.
I just got to be better than you and I'm happy.
Well you'll be spending the rest of your life trying.
I'm just gonna wake up and I'm better than you.
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So if you're struggling with toxic shame and you can't really get past it.
That's embarrassing that's true.
Yeah terrible stuff when you do that in public when you spit in public when you're talking
and spit comes out of your mouth.
What happened to me today?
What about if you sneeze and it fucking explodes in your hand?
Well you sneeze and big hunk of phlegm and you're just like oh shit.
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Sneeze and fart at the same time.
It hurts.
A shotgun blast out your asshole.
Yeah it's a schnapp.
So you have like recovering or trying to work through this it's all around self-compassion
and we haven't we spoken about that before but yeah just just save yourself.
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You know just go through those steps and just understand that sometimes things can happen.
You make mistakes or you know sometimes silly things happen.
It doesn't mean you're a bad person.
If you do something shameful if you sleepwalk and you're way in the kitchen bin you're just
an idiot.
No there's nothing wrong with you.
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Maybe I don't know.
There's nothing wrong with me.
I don't know probably.
I was walking when I was younger and mum stopped me I like walked out to the kitchen got the
potato masher and she stopped me at my sister's bedroom door.
I don't know what I was gonna do.
You wanna mash some potatoes?
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Anyway yeah so that's it.
Be mindful of it.
Talk to people about it you know if you're really struggling with it chat to someone
about it because you know they can talk you through it maybe.
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Someone you need to be close with someone I think to share these sort of things with
and you know don't just walk up to a stranger on the street and say I sleepwalked the other
day and I peed in the fucking trash can.
Wait do it and see their reaction.
That'll go down weirdly.
But yeah anyway that kind of sort of sums up everything we've been talking about.
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Oh my god.
Yes.
What about like secondhand embarrassment?
Yeah it does something and you feel really fucking embarrassed because of like what they've
done.
Yeah I've got a really good story.
Yeah so do I but mine's not for the podcast I will tell you.
I will tell you later.
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Can't wait.
Yeah.
This one so we were at band practice and we decided we were gonna go get kebabs.
And so all four of us like just piled into the one car and we're driving along and Vossie
our drummer he was an absolute loose unit.
Of course.
Like just fucking of course.
We're all the best but yeah go on.
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Yeah absolute cream of the crop.
Vossie is a legend.
So we're like driving along and he sees this backpacker walking along the side of the road
like just you know they're going to do their fucking grocery shopping.
And so he like leans out the window and he goes, oh I love you dropped your pocket.
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And I'm like oh yeah that's pretty funny.
And she stopped and she's like looking for whatever she's dropped.
And I'm just like oh no.
The worst part is we got stopped in the fucking red light right next to where he yelled it
out.
So he's like oh I love you dropped your pocket she stopped to look and Gumby just pulls up
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at the red light and she's like searching on the ground and Vossie's just like oh shit.
And he's like out the window trying to explain to her that it's a fucking joke and you know
it's your pocket like it's the joke and she's a backpacker and it's just like I just felt
really fucking awkward and embarrassed.
Oh shit.
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That's shameful.
Shame.
Shame.
Fucking messy.
It's a good story.
It would have been fine if we just kept driving but the red light just fucking really cemented
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it it was just like oh.
That would have just gone through.
Just out the window and cracked the music like fuck it.
Just dumped the clutch.
Off you go.
Anyway.
But anyway that sums it up.
There is some proper research out there in regards to this.
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I was looking at an article.
Shame Anxiety, Stigma and Clinical Encounters of the National Library of Medicine.
It's a fully researched kind of topic area.
And yeah they sort of just they sum it up.
I say they.
The author is Delezel and they sum it up pretty well in terms of the fact that feeling shame
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is really just all around the social norms of society that we have in place.
What we feel is moral, what we feel is right and going against those sort of societal norms
make us feel embarrassed and can really put shame on us.
Fuck society.
Piss in a trash can.
Yeah that's exactly right.
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Piss in a trash can.
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Welcome back to this week's episode of the Pain in Our Head podcast.
Thanks for tuning in and listening.
We've been talking about embarrassment, shame, we've been...
Pissing in a trash can.
Pissing in a trash can.
We've been telling some crazy stories.
Funny stories.
Yeah look back on them you think you know it's just funny but very embarrassing at the
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time and you feel a lot of shame at the time and we've been talking about the toxic shame
and how if you you know let it eat you it will and it will hurt your mental health so
don't let it get to that point.
Yeah we haven't fucking mentioned.
What's that?
My fucking birthday tomorrow.
It is your birthday tomorrow.
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Happy birthday for tomorrow.
If this is gonna be out after your birthday.
Yeah.
Exciting.
Yeah.
Just another day.
Yeah.
I'm not a fan of birthdays like I'll work my birthday and you know I'm like whatever.
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Yeah I'll be working.
You're working tomorrow so yeah.
Age is just a number.
Play computer.
Yeah.
Boys.
Got some chicken dinners to be had.
Some dinner dates with the boys.
Kisses with the homies.
I even went and did all my errands today so I'm completely completely free tomorrow so
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yeah yeah I'm a good friend do what I can yeah.
Anyway anyway music.
Amazing.
Yeah fuck me I don't know.
I did I come across that reel essentially the other day with those two dudes.
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Oh yeah yeah yeah.
I was like shit out of it and I actually added that song to my thing.
Oh yeah.
Banda AL9.
Banda AL9.
Yeah.
Name of the song?
No the band.
The band.
Yeah and the song is She Calls Me Love.
And yeah it was just like a reel on Instagram with them two singing along and in their garage
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and like clapping their hands.
I was like yeah it's a really good harmony.
When you're laughing at your prick I got the hiccups.
Fuck off.
You're pissing a trash can you asshole.
Fletchlands yes continue.
And yeah no it's really really fucking good harmony.
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It kind of reminds me of the Beach Boys like now they've actually listened to the whole
song.
And I was just saying it's pretty cool.
Yeah yeah look you know I'm a sucker for some really good harmonies.
Especially ones that you know haven't been done through audio tuning and stuff like that.
What?
Fletchlands?
No.
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Especially?
Especially.
Especially.
Just the mic.
Especially X.
Uh is that a band?
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Especially X.
I feel like that's a...
I think you have a...
Huh.
I don't know I'll have to look it up.
I think that's a band.
What's that?
What's that superhero group?
They're part of Marvel?
Wolverine sort of part of it?
X-Men?
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Yeah.
That's what you're gonna be if you keep fucking talking shit.
You gotta be an X-Man.
It's not a bad group to be a part of.
Yeah but you gotta deal with Cyclops.
Hmm yeah.
Hmm.
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Anyway DC Superior.
That's anyway.
Fuck.
DC's investment dwellers.
Yeah fucking really good vocal harmonies.
Enjoyed the shit out of that song and for every other thing that I've been listening
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to it's just been the same old shit I always listen to.
I've just been smashing Cattle to the Capitation, Pendulum.
I probably should start smashing out some Parkway Drive because I'm going to see them
next week the 27th I think it is.
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So yeah.
Probably start remembering some of their fucking songs.
What's one of your favorites off the top of your head?
You can remember.
Um probably off their fucking like one of their early early albums.
Um I don't know if I can carry him.
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Yeah.
Yeah they're cool.
They're cool.
Like Australian.
Yeah.
They're from Byron Bay aren't they?
Yeah.
Yeah yeah yeah.
I think I saw a, I think you sent it to me, a video of them just on you know this tour
coming up and etc and they actually went back and did like a little behind the scenes of
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their old rehearsal room.
No that wasn't me.
I mean yeah maybe it was Taylor and it sort of just shows.
I've seen some of their old like rehearsal room and shit yeah it's fucking cool.
Yeah it was the drummer's parents house.
That's where I used to practice.
Yeah he wasn't a drummer.
He just became one because of the band.
Yeah right.
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So he's a drummer now.
He's a fucking good drummer now.
Yeah no um I forget where I read that but yeah apparently he um they needed a drummer
and they didn't want to kind of be left out so he at the drums and now he's fucking amazing.
Yeah yeah wow.
Isn't that funny how sometimes you just fall on, fall onto things and just works the way
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it should.
I hope it's everyone.
Happy birthday to me.
Oh well anyway no seriously I'll be over great dad tomorrow.
Might be my birthday but I've got something you can blow.
What's your favorite topic?
Cake.
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Mud cake.
I fuck with mud cake.
So I always talk about the takeaway store next to work back at the ginger beer factory.
It was in like a little like u-turn spot next to the factory and like there was a cafe there
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and um they did the best fucking chocolate mud cake.
When we when we got married we actually had the chocolate mud cake at our fucking wedding.
That's amazing.
Yeah I fucking I fuck with that shit.
It was great.
Yeah yeah that's cool.
Mud cakes awesome.
Yeah I love chocolate mud cake.
That's what I'm gonna do tomorrow.
I'm gonna find someone who's got some chocolate mud cake.
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And after work I'm gonna fucking treat myself to some chocolate mud cake.
Sit there, eat it, light a candle, run a bath, light a toaster.
Fucking damp me.
Don't fucking do that okay.
Can I joke about that shit on a mental health podcast?
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No no we can't even though we have several times.
Yeah terrible.
Yeah no no do it.
Okay.
Oh the cake.
Get the toaster.
God damn it.
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Fuck your toaster alright.
Jesus Christ.
I'm glad you don't have a bath.
Yeah no that's cool.
Mud cake mud cakes nice.
Yep I fuck with that.
What about you what's your favorite cake?
Carrot cake.
Oh yeah fuck with carrot cake hard.
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Right.
It's got to be moist though.
Oh yeah.
Like just a real nice yeah with the nice like.
You get a little bit of cashew every now and then when you bite into it or walnuts whatever
they are.
They add nuts to it anyway.
I love banana bread too.
It's not really a cake but banana bread.
Chocolate banana bread.
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I classify that as a cake.
Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah well I mean you know.
Blows up yeah yeah.
Yeah banana bread's good.
Carrot cake's better though.
Yep carrot cake.
Mud cakes.
Superior.
I'm just trying to think of another type of cake.
I don't know those ones are at the top of the list.
Alfredo ice cream cake that will always be just the best.
I don't fuck with ice cream cake.
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It's just ice cream it's not even a cake.
I don't care I don't fuck with it.
Just ice cream.
I don't care.
But you're not a fan you're not a massive fan of ice cream like me.
I'm a fiend for it.
It's bad.
Got a problem.
The only ice cream that I really fucking froth over.
It's golden gate.
Yeah yeah.
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Golden gate homes.
They're good.
I don't even know if that's like a global thing.
I wonder if that's just Australian.
I'm pretty sure it's just Australian.
Well isn't it Streets brand?
Yeah.
I think that's an Australian brand I think.
I'm pretty sure golden gate homes are Australian.
Yeah well if they are and you're listening from overseas if you're ever over in Australia
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walk into any servo they still do those fridges.
They still do those fridges where you walk in and there's like those you know those fridges
you slide them across and there's like a million ice creams.
About Milo ice cream.
Oh yeah.
Oh yeah yeah yeah.
Yeah yeah there's some good gems.
Oh I watched a video the other day it was like an American dude like tasting Australian
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foods and he got Milo and he just like shoved the tablespoon into the Milo and just like
fucking tried to eat it.
Had a munch.
Like inhaled half of it.
You fucking idiot.
And we've all done that.
Yeah.
Yeah as kids yeah.
You grab a heap.
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Yeah yeah no one's looking like actually no one's looking.
You walk over to the pantry with a big tablespoon you crack open the lid.
It was always the worst when you'd get to it you crack open the lid and you realise
the aluminium foil was still over the top.
Hadn't been pierced.
And you would know that you were the one to open it.
We weren't allowed to open stuff as a kid like because once it was open it would be
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gone.
So the rule was mum had to open, be the first to open all the grocery stuff at home.
I remember, fucking here's one for you, I remember another leap of logic of mine which
hit me in the arse.
I fucking love cinnamon donuts.
I love fresh cinnamon donuts right.
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Fuck this.
Are they crispy?
A little bit crispy on the outside.
A little bit crispy on the inside, on the inner ring.
Oh the inner ring.
Yeah everything else is like doughy and fucking hot and then you bite in you've got that little
crispy ring on the centre.
Fuck was that so hard.
So fresh cinnamon donuts.
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Obviously the jar of cinnamon in the cupboard is gonna taste like fresh cinnamon donuts
isn't it?
No it fucking didn't.
Trying to eat the fucking cinnamon out of the fucking jar.
I did the cinnamon challenge before it was cool.
Yeah.
That's exactly what I was thinking.
Fucking bullshit.
Oh shit.
Crazy.
At least that's a logical like understand that one.
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So you know it's like oh cinnamon donuts obviously cinnamon is gonna be sweet.
I could know it's not.
I swear once I don't know how it happened but I swear instead of getting a mouthful of
sugar I've ended up with a mouthful of salt.
Cock.
Salt.
Why is it spicy?
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Yeah no that's good.
Anyway back to music.
Music yeah yeah so I played a gig on the weekend.
Because you know I played up in Toowoomba.
I say up in Toowoomba but it's west.
It's a country sort of not really but kind of.
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Anyway Toowoomba it's about a three hour drive from Brisbane city if you don't know.
And we played a gig up there it was fantastic.
It was just a little micro brewery.
They seem to be the thing nowadays.
Little micro breweries that make their own little bit of beer and anyway it was really
cool.
Weirdest stage I've ever played on but really cool.
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It was longer than it was wider.
Nickel for every time I've heard that.
That's why I'm broke.
But yeah so you think I'm at the back usually as a drummer right?
Yeah.
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I was at the back.
I was way way beyond.
Yeah it was weird.
It was really long but really cool.
Nice venue.
Awesome venue.
And for the first time in my gigging life I rocked up.
Picked up my pair of sticks and I could play.
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And it wasn't one of those cases of oh yeah the venue has a kit.
The kit ends up being a bag of dicks.
Nice kit.
Beautiful cymbals.
And a double kicker.
All I had to walk up and bring was my sticks.
Didn't use your own pedal?
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I guess you wouldn't have had to use your own.
I would have used my own pedal because my pedals have adjusted it so that it works with
how I like it.
Yeah it's your pedals.
My pedals.
But I actually brought my electric kit not knowing if there was a kit provided.
And halfway to the venue I got a call saying yeah there's a kit.
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I was like sick.
I packed my kit.
But yeah cool.
So yeah I didn't have my kicker.
I had my single but I didn't have my double and I just left it.
So but anyway.
No really cool venue.
But anyway we were doing original, sorry not originals, we were doing covers.
Covers of like 80s, 90s, 2000s, 2010s all through to now.
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Obviously as a session musician on the night and playing for some other guy.
And as I was, I created a playlist of all these old covers that people love listening
to in pubs and bars and all that sort of crap.
And a song that...
Same shit.
It is always the same shit.
Yeah yeah yeah yeah.
But yeah it gets people up and dancing.
It's what it is.
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Get that on the big jobs.
What a donkey punched your singer and took the microphone.
Bass player.
Bass player was my singer for my band.
He was playing bass.
At one point he did push the singer off of the mic and he started singing the song instead.
It was great.
But one of the songs that we didn't play but it came up in a shuffle with the playlist
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of things that I was listening to was You Get What You Give by New Radicals.
Oldie bitty goodie came out in 1998.
1998.
Old but gold.
I can't believe that that came out in 1998.
Great song.
Fantastic song.
Enjoyed the shit out of it.
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It's just a fun song.
Had me in a good mood last week when I was listening to it.
I'm pretty sure the day before you were listening to your playlist we were sending fucking bangers
like blast from the past.
We were doing a big blast from the past.
Great songs.
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It's always good when you get on a roll like that.
You think of one song and you're like yeah that was such a good song and then you're
like oh but what about.
It goes on and on and on.
And you just remember all the songs when you were young and you're just like yeah just
banger.
Yep yep.
We were supposed to play Better by the Screaming Jets.
And we didn't.
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I was so disappointed.
I really wanted to play it.
It's got such a cool drum beat to it.
Such a great song.
Oh yeah.
Yeah yeah yeah.
It's cool.
Cool as shit.
The live version is fucking love the live version.
And then the guitar comes in and it's like.
Yeah.
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It's good.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We had that conversation last week about the Screaming Jets.
How cool they are.
I think they're touring.
Actually.
Yeah I think they're touring at the moment.
Anyway.
That's my story.
That's it.
That was critical.
That was critical.
We better wrap this up then.
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What are we talking about next week?
And I'll give you a hint.
It's not Fletcher Lens.
The correct way to piss.
Yeah.
He has a 10 step guide on how not to sleepwalk and flash a dick to your mum as a 14 year
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old.
So many embarrassing stories.
Work, life balance and mental health.
Oh yeah.
That's what we're doing.
I'd actually forgotten.
Cool.
That'll be fun.
We work a lot, play a lot, laugh a lot.
Cool.
Try a lot.
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Welcome to this week's episode of the Pain in Our Head podcast.
Thrilled to be here again this week.
I love wasting a whole afternoon fucking dealing with your shit.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what most people say.
But hey, it is what it is.
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Sucks to suck.
The 15 people that watch this on a regular basis enjoy it so.
They're not here for you?
Who are you here for?
Put a comment in the YouTube.
No, but they might not be.
They might be just here for my sexy drum kit in the background.
You think my grandma's here to watch you?
Yeah, well she knows that I'm the one that's always right.
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So let's not dig under that bridge.
This week we're talking about embarrassment this week.
This is going to be fun.
Embarrassed to fucking know you.
That's not nice.
You're in for it today.
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I'm in for it today, I know.
Yeah, yeah, I'll hold my tongue.
Yeah, so we're going to talk about embarrassment this week.
I got a great story.
I got a great story about embarrassment.
I got heaps.
I got heaps.
I do a lot of dumb shit.
You know this.
So you wouldn't expect anything less.
Everyone knows this.
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Anyone that's watched the podcast is just like, that guy's a fucking idiot.
He does dumb shit on the reg.
On the reg?
He sees dumb shit and he's like, I'm fucking with that.
Yeah, yeah, right.
Yep, yep, yep.
But they probably think the same thing about me too, like, and they'd be right.
What was the last dumb thing you did?
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Oh, fuck.
Don't have to think that far.
It was probably 20 minutes ago.
I don't know.
It's been a while since I've done something stupid.
Yeah, no, nothing comes to mind.
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I did something today.
The dumbest thing I did was got excited about fucking dinner plans.
That was fucking stupid of me.
I told you, don't get excited about it.
It's fine.
Not mad, just disappointed and a little bit angry.
Anyway, it's a good thing I'm in Queensland.
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Today I did something really dumb.
Kind of.
Kind of.
So I was training a new guy today.
I'm training a new guy.
The blind leading the fucking blind.
Oh, shocking.
Absolutely shocking.
Anyway, you know, with my job, we're going to fill up the truck at the end of a run.
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Yep, cool.
Go to the servo.
Petrol station.
What do you want to call it?
Servo.
Servo.
Servo.
And you got to give them the Odo reader.
Odomina.
Odomina reader.
I used to write it on my hand because there's no way I was remembering six digits.
Really?
Yeah, I remember six digits.
No problem.
No worries every time.
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Anyway, so I'm pretty good at remembering the six digits.
I take photos of the hour readings.
Every machine's got an hour reading.
It's like only four numbers and I'm just like ka-ching, ka-ching.
Yeah.
Because I don't fucking remember.
Well, you got to do it every hour.
So you don't have to do it every hour.
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No, you look at the start of the day when you turn the machine on, you look at the end
of the day when you turn it off.
Oh, yeah.
So you know, that's something that I would just remember.
Crazy.
Anywho, I'm telling the guy, I'm saying, yeah, you got to either take a photo or remember
the ODO or whatever it might be.
Anyway, I tell him, I go, oh yeah, these are the numbers and I can't remember exactly what
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the numbers were.
But the last couple of digits.
Six nine.
Was one one.
Oh.
Yeah, yeah.
Okay.
So when I told it to him though, I said to him, so let's say one, two, three, four, and
then I said, double eleven.
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But this is the best part, right?
He took me seriously.
I bet he fucking did.
I would have.
I would have put four ones down.
He's walked into the servo and he's telling the chick the numbers and he goes, yeah, one,
two, three, four, double eleven.
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And she goes, double eleven.
One one one one.
And he goes, double eleven.
Right?
He turns to me and I go, no, just double one.
You're a fucking idiot.
Anyway, it was a dumb thing that I did today.
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But you know, it does happen every day.
I do something stupid at least once a day.
I don't think I did anything stupid today.
I'm fucking.
Proud of you.
That's like a population sign.
Days without an incident.
Yeah.
Days without being a dumb fuck.
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You can write one.
Mine's at zero.
I honestly can't think of anything stupid I did today.
For once.
For once.
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Well, hit us with an embarrassing story then.
We're talking about embarrassment.
We're going to talk about the mental health side of it and how shame comes into it all.
Pick the best one.
Pick one I haven't heard.
I want a good chuckle.
I want a good laugh.
I should have thought about this, like leading up to it.
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Because I haven't really thought about like embarrassing fucking stories.
It's like there's so many moments that like, you know, you're going to sleep and your
brain's like, Hey, remember that time you did this?
Fuck.
Here's one for you.
Fucking just like sheer stupidity of it.
So like, I'm pretty sure I've been fucking pretty vocal about the fact I used to get
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bullied in high school and you still get bullied now.
Sorry, continue.
Anyway, so I used to try and use my words to like, you know, lash out.
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This is fucking embarrassing now that I'm talking about it.
This sucks ass.
Fuck you.
Fuck this episode.
Fuck it.
Here we go.
I can feel the cringe.
Fuck you, man.
There was an ad on TV.
Like I need to lay down some background here on this.
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There was an advertisement on TV.
It was about.
I'm going to do a pharmacies and it's like, you know, the television guys like walking
through the pharmacy talking about different things and like he drops a comment about like,
Oh, you know, and pharmacists make a lot of money.
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And like after he says that the pharmacist like walks up and he's like, Oh, and here's
your prescription for flatulence.
Cry talking about the fucking stupidity of this shit.
My brain put two and two together and got fucking seven.
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You need to understand the reasoning behind it.
I'm fucking crying.
This is bullshit.
I'm so fucking embarrassed.
I thought I didn't know what flatulence meant.
Like I was young, but I was like year eight.
I didn't know what fucking flatulence meant.
And I was like, that's a big fucking word.
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And I thought that the pharmacist was insinuating that he was lying.
You know, cause he'd just said like, and pharmacists earn a lot of money and he's like, here's
your prescription for flatulence.
And I was like, Oh, obviously it means lying.
Like he's exaggerating.
Like he's lying about it.
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There was a fucking time where I walked around and used flatulence in that context.
Thinking I was the fucking top shit calling people liars by saying that they had a problem
with flatulence.
For fuck's sake.
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How long did this go on for?
Like a year.
God, I got fucking tears.
I feel like fucking reached out right now.
Why did I have to go with like the worst?
Oh, that's fucking great.
Who ended up telling you, like?
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It was one of those, it was one of those just, oh fuck moments.
Someone actually used it in context.
They used the word in the correct context.
And it was just like light bulb, heart shatter.
Oh no.
That's embarrassing.
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That's embarrassing.
Yeah.
Yep.
I'm sure I'll never hear the fucking end of that one now.
No, no, I'm definitely going to use that word.
Completely, incorrectly.
Just incorrectly.
Yeah.
Fuck me.
Oh, that's great.
That's good.
Almost as embarrassing as running down the street with your dick flying around.
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I got one that almost tops it.
Oh God.
Yeah.
Let me have a drink first.
I feel like I'm going to fucking.
You're going to cry.
You're going to cry.
Okay.
All right, go on.
Hit me with it.
So this is, when I think back, probably one of the most embarrassing things I can think
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of.
I'm probably early teenager.
And all I remember is I'm having a, you just thought of another one, didn't you?
Great.
I can't wait to hear it.
I don't know if it's appropriate.
I don't know if this one's appropriate, but I'm saying it anyway.
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Yeah.
I'm so excited.
Use the discretion as advised.
Shit's about to go south.
If you don't want to hear fucked up shit, skip forward 10 minutes.
All I remember is I was at home and I've gotten up where I'm at home and I need to go to the
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toilet.
So I'm like, yep, cool.
I'm going to the toilet.
Is this to do with my fucking, my message about not pissing in your dream?
It's similar.
It's going to get there.
So anyway, I'm doing my thing.
I'm going to the toilet.
I'm like, sweet.
All I can picture is me just walking into the bathroom, walking to the toilet, lopping
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out my dick and going for a piss.
All of a sudden I get woken up because I was sleepwalking.
Yep.
Yep.
And mom wakes me up and I'm in the kitchen and I've stepped on the bin and it's a flip
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lid.
My cock's in my hand and I'm ready to have a piss in the bin.
And mom's like, what are you doing?
I'm like, I'm having a piss.
I'm like, I can hear you not.
Go to the toilet.
Because yep, I was sleepwalking.
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And yeah, there I was just cocking hand.
Mom's in front of me.
Here I am about to have a piss in the kitchen bin.
And I think she stopped me like midstream too.
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I think a little bit of it's actually gone into the bottom of the bin.
And oh shit.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's, that was embarrassing.
That was super embarrassing.
And I heard it from my brother and sister forever.
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I'm going to throw someone I used to work with under the bus here because I can top
that.
Oh yeah.
Okay.
It's not my story, but I'm fucking telling it.
So when I used to work at the ginger beer factory, they do employee recognition dinners
once a year.
Improvably.
Around like July, August, and it was basically exactly what it sounds like.
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It's just a dinner that the company throw.
They get everyone like globally to show up.
Oh yeah.
Well, yep.
And they book out like a venue and you know, food, drinks, all that sort of shit.
And they tried to limit the amount that we could drink, but never fucking worked.
People got really fucking drunk.
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And one of the leading hands got like super fucking drunk, like white girl wasted drunk.
Yeah.
Yep.
And so he's, you know, he eventually got home.
You know, like you got your master bedroom and you got the walk-in cupboard.
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Yep.
And then the walk-in cupboard leads to your ensuite.
Yep.
Have you had that?
I've had that before.
Yep.
So yeah, we used to have that in one of the houses we were living in, and that's what
this guy had.
Mm-hmm.
He got home pissed as a nit.
Decided that he had to go for a piss.
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So he went to the bathroom and had a piss.
He didn't make it to the bathroom, did he?
He just walked into the onslaught.
He just walked into the walk-in and started pissing all over that fucking clothes.
He's a bitch.
He's a bitch.
He's fucking threw him under the bus so hard.
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He fucking told us all.
He didn't want to tell a fucking soul.
She threw him under that bus so hard.
Oh, she's like, yeah, he walked in and he just started fucking pissing in the walk-in.
He stood there just fucking pissing all over the clothes and the carpet.
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He was embarrassed.
Yeah, I bet he was.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I've got another, but an old friend of mine, I'm going to tell their story because I was
there.
It counts.
It counts.
And he was very embarrassed by it.
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He didn't talk for the rest of the day.
No names.
No names.
No names.
We're at Schoolies.
Okay.
I didn't go to Schoolies.
I got a gym membership instead.
What, were you fat and grab 12?
No, I was skinny as shit and I wanted to get bulk.
Yeah, you wanted to bulk.
No, all right.
Fair enough.
Did it work?
No.
Got really strong.
Just didn't put weight on.
Anyway, we didn't-
I can't keep the fucking weight off.
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I didn't go to Schoolies either.
We ended up, a group of mates, a man of a group of mates decided, no, we're going to
go up to Noosa instead for a week.
And had a place up there.
Anyway, we got pissed.
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Like we did every night.
Anyway, one day, one of the days, mate, really, really pissed.
Super pissed.
Wasn't it like never really drank before.
And he's yelled out to us.
He's gone, I've got to go to the bathroom.
I'm going to throw up.
Like everyone get out of the way.
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Two of us are at the end of the hallway as it was a balcony down there and the bathroom
was down that way.
And it was like a tiled floor down the hallway.
And he's running.
He's like, get out of the way.
Like, I'm going to throw up.
I'm going to throw up.
Halfway down the hallway.
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He hurls up like a good meter in front of him.
In front of himself.
And then slips in it.
And rolls over and continues to jazz bucket, barf his guts up everywhere.
It stunk.
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Like we had the mop going and it sucked.
Cleaning all that up.
And it was just a mess.
We found him like an hour later just at the bottom of the shower floor.
Just fucking nude.
Just like, ugh.
Just terrible.
Poor guy.
Felt bad for him, but he was very embarrassed.
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Just the projectile.
Just the sheer length that he got on it.
And then slipping in it because he was running too fast on the tiles.
Lucky he didn't break a bone to be honest.
Did you ever try to make your face red?
You know how you're like, you're like, you know what I'm talking about?
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Like your clench.
It happens at least once a day.
Yeah, well, exactly.
Like you're trying to push a big shit.
You're like, but like, you know, you can make your face go really, really red.
I was sitting in class one day, like this is like year four.
So I was 10, nine, 10, somewhere around there.
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We were seeing who could make their face turn the reddest.
I'm sitting there like fucking just straining like a motherfucker.
One.
But I also like completely blew out both nostrils at the same time with just like this big,
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thick fucking explosion of mucus.
Like think like the biggest, thickest fucking golly you could fucking lock up.
And it came out like both nostrils, like a fucking mustache.
Full snot rocket.
And it just fucking this big fucking Texas mustache and snot.
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That's great.
Yeah.
Especially in school too.
Yeah, right.
You don't live in class.
You don't live that shit down.
No.
Like I think grade three, we're all sitting down in class for something.
I think it was an after school activity.
So there were older kids there as well.
And I've lent over too hard on one side and just let out an absolute massive belly fart.
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Everyone knew it was me.
And I was so embarrassed.
I never went back to that after school class, whatever it was.
When I cry and tell my mom, I farted in class.
Everyone hates me.
I could tell you another story about explosions, it was pretty fucking embarrassing though.
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You know you want it now.
You like it.
So what about losing the battle?
No, not that one.
No.
Explosive.
Anyway, there's some good stories there.
I could go on for hours.
There's probably a heap.
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Lonely Island song.
We've all been 16 once.
I was fucking 18.
What did a fellow look at you the right way?
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Fuck off.
There was some very enthusiastic dry humping with my first ever girlfriend.
Thank you very much.
Oh yeah right.
Worst part was coming home.
I was there with my grandparents.
I came home and my fucking mum and dad were visiting.
That's how I pulled dad aside and was like, dad what do I do?
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Because I just came home.
He came something.
There's some embarrassing ones though.
There's some crazy embarrassing ones.
Actually speaking of like fucking gentle embarrassing.
This one's not like this isn't dirty, but you'd fully understand this.
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Being a fucking teenager, just cracking a fat.
Nothing's going on.
You just sit there and you've fucking got a full blown rager.
What do you mean just being a teenager?
That didn't go away right?
That's not just me.
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Anyway it was like the end of the year in high school.
This was year 10 so I was 15 and it was the end of the year.
We'd finished all of our classes so we were just doing stupid shit.
We were all in the hall and it was me and two other guys in this little group doing
like a, it was a trivia thing, like a quiz thing in groups.
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Everyone was all grouped up.
Then someone had to go up and give the answer sheet to the chick that was writing it.
She was our science teacher.
She was an older lady.
It was my turn to take the fucking piece of paper up wasn't it?
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I just had an absolute full blown fucking rager.
Just fucking like yeah no it was just full fucking, yep, no it's right there.
And the guy's like oh it's your turn to go up.
It was Kurt and Shane and they're like it's your turn to go up and I was just like I can't.
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They're just like what?
I can't.
Why can't you?
I was like, I can't.
And they're like why?
Because these guys are fat, like they don't want to fucking get up.
And they just, they're like it's your turn.
I was just like, I was like I'll fucking bite the bullet.
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I was like I've got a boner.
I was like I can't get rid of it.
And they're like what are you gonna boner for?
What are you gonna boner over?
I don't remember her name now but yeah they were like, you got a boner over?
I fucking never lived that down did I?
No, no.
That's crazy.
Yeah it was one of my worst fears but I had to do public speaking in school.
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When it came around to my turn, you know, because you had to wait and sometimes hours
and you know people going through all their speeches and I don't know.
Shameful, shameful stuff.
That's what embarrassment is.
Yeah.
We can feel shameful when we do embarrassing things like that.
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Mmm, mmm.
A bit of a stigma around it.
Mmm.
So shame can become a little bit toxic.
I think that's what I've been reading into.
I know.
Mmm, mmm.
The difference between shame and guilt.
What is the difference between shame and guilt?
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Well you feel guilt when you know you've done something wrong.
We've done our episode on guilt.
Shame is more something you feel is not quite up to a moral standard.
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So you feel shameful for an event that may have come to pass because in society it doesn't
hold up as well as you think it might.
It's not looked on as well as you think it might be.
You know pissing in your trash can, pissing on your clothes.
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Like it's not quite the moral standard that society goes with.
It's not common.
So I think that's where shame comes into it and that's where you feel the embarrassment.
You feel embarrassed and then you feel shameful because telling someone about it you feel
like you'll be looked at differently or you'll be thought of differently for doing that act.
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I think the important thing to point out is like originally this was meant to be an episode
about embarrassment but then as we've looked into it we've come to realise that embarrassment
comes from shame and so then we're like well let's still roll with the embarrassment side
of it but also kind of dive in and explain how shame and embarrassment are the same kind
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of thing like where it comes from.
Yeah and how it can weigh on your mental health as well.
So yeah so shame can last days.
Gosh especially like you know some of those things that I spoke about earlier like yeah
days, weeks.
Bitch please I still think about flatulence.
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Like that's 20 fucking years ago.
Well you know what they say better out than in.
I can hate you.
Go piss in a trash can you prick.
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That's gonna be my fucking line from now on.
Go piss in a trash can Caleb.
It's always lick my left nut between us and now it's just gonna be piss in a trash can.
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Oh goodness me.
So yeah toxic shame, toxic shame it becomes toxic because you keep dwelling on it.
And you kind of get into that mindset of believing that what you did was so shameful so embarrassing
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that you're a bad person because of it and the people will look at you differently because
of it and you'll never feel like you know you can be you know hate throwing this term
around but normal.
That's the feeling that comes of it so that's how you can have toxic shame kind of weighs
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into it and what you kind of what your head sort of does or what your mind does to that
particular event and yeah.
I think like the key thing to take away from it is that like it's often like the shame
is it's caused by society.
Yes it's you know you feel embarrassed or shameful because of the way other people react
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to it and it's like you know you've done whatever you've done and it's you know someone might
say you're like oh why'd you do that like what were you thinking like what the hell
man and then you feel shameful about it or you feel embarrassed it's like yeah.
And as human beings we always crave approval that's just embedded into our genetics so
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that disapproval it kind of gives off symptoms of withdrawal and anger you know you can feel
withdrawn you want to curl up in a ball and disappear you want to be hidden because you
know you did that shameful thing you don't want anyone else to see it or talk about it
etc and then you know you can feel angry about it and you know those things can have further
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ramifications you know can lead to doing some unhealthy coping mechanisms that we've spoken
about I know.
Have we?
Absolutely bizarre yeah crazy.
All these things tie into each other.
Yeah yeah it's crazy yeah I think it's just because you know sometimes as a human we feel
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like we have to be perfectionists we have to be perfect.
I just got to be better than you and I'm happy.
Well you'll be spending the rest of your life trying.
I'm just gonna wake up and I'm better than you.
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So if you're struggling with toxic shame and you can't really get past it.
That's embarrassing that's true.
Yeah terrible stuff when you do that in public when you spit in public when you're talking
and spit comes out of your mouth.
What happened to me today?
What about if you sneeze and it fucking explodes in your hand?
Well you sneeze and big hunk of phlegm and you're just like oh shit.
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Sneeze and fart at the same time.
It hurts.
A shotgun blast out your asshole.
Yeah it's a schnapp.
So you have like recovering or trying to work through this it's all around self-compassion
and we haven't we spoken about that before but yeah just just save yourself.
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You know just go through those steps and just understand that sometimes things can happen.
You make mistakes or you know sometimes silly things happen.
It doesn't mean you're a bad person.
If you do something shameful if you sleepwalk and you're way in the kitchen bin you're just
an idiot.
No there's nothing wrong with you.
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Maybe I don't know.
There's nothing wrong with me.
I don't know probably.
I was walking when I was younger and mum stopped me I like walked out to the kitchen got the
potato masher and she stopped me at my sister's bedroom door.
I don't know what I was gonna do.
You wanna mash some potatoes?
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Anyway yeah so that's it.
Be mindful of it.
Talk to people about it you know if you're really struggling with it chat to someone
about it because you know they can talk you through it maybe.
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Someone you need to be close with someone I think to share these sort of things with
and you know don't just walk up to a stranger on the street and say I sleepwalked the other
day and I peed in the fucking trash can.
Wait do it and see their reaction.
That'll go down weirdly.
But yeah anyway that kind of sort of sums up everything we've been talking about.
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Oh my god.
Yes.
What about like secondhand embarrassment?
Yeah it does something and you feel really fucking embarrassed because of like what they've
done.
Yeah I've got a really good story.
Yeah so do I but mine's not for the podcast I will tell you.
I will tell you later.
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Can't wait.
Yeah.
This one so we were at band practice and we decided we were gonna go get kebabs.
And so all four of us like just piled into the one car and we're driving along and Vossie
our drummer he was an absolute loose unit.
Of course.
Like just fucking of course.
We're all the best but yeah go on.
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Yeah absolute cream of the crop.
Vossie is a legend.
So we're like driving along and he sees this backpacker walking along the side of the road
like just you know they're going to do their fucking grocery shopping.
And so he like leans out the window and he goes, oh I love you dropped your pocket.
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And I'm like oh yeah that's pretty funny.
And she stopped and she's like looking for whatever she's dropped.
And I'm just like oh no.
The worst part is we got stopped in the fucking red light right next to where he yelled it
out.
So he's like oh I love you dropped your pocket she stopped to look and Gumby just pulls up
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at the red light and she's like searching on the ground and Vossie's just like oh shit.
And he's like out the window trying to explain to her that it's a fucking joke and you know
it's your pocket like it's the joke and she's a backpacker and it's just like I just felt
really fucking awkward and embarrassed.
Oh shit.
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That's shameful.
Shame.
Shame.
Fucking messy.
It's a good story.
It would have been fine if we just kept driving but the red light just fucking really cemented
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it it was just like oh.
That would have just gone through.
Just out the window and cracked the music like fuck it.
Just dumped the clutch.
Off you go.
Anyway.
But anyway that sums it up.
There is some proper research out there in regards to this.
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I was looking at an article.
Shame Anxiety, Stigma and Clinical Encounters of the National Library of Medicine.
It's a fully researched kind of topic area.
And yeah they sort of just they sum it up.
I say they.
The author is Delezel and they sum it up pretty well in terms of the fact that feeling shame
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is really just all around the social norms of society that we have in place.
What we feel is moral, what we feel is right and going against those sort of societal norms
make us feel embarrassed and can really put shame on us.
Fuck society.
Piss in a trash can.
Yeah that's exactly right.
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Piss in a trash can.
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Welcome back to this week's episode of the Pain in Our Head podcast.
Thanks for tuning in and listening.
We've been talking about embarrassment, shame, we've been...
Pissing in a trash can.
Pissing in a trash can.
We've been telling some crazy stories.
Funny stories.
Yeah look back on them you think you know it's just funny but very embarrassing at the
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time and you feel a lot of shame at the time and we've been talking about the toxic shame
and how if you you know let it eat you it will and it will hurt your mental health so
don't let it get to that point.
Yeah we haven't fucking mentioned.
What's that?
My fucking birthday tomorrow.
It is your birthday tomorrow.
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Happy birthday for tomorrow.
If this is gonna be out after your birthday.
Yeah.
Exciting.
Yeah.
Just another day.
Yeah.
I'm not a fan of birthdays like I'll work my birthday and you know I'm like whatever.
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Yeah I'll be working.
You're working tomorrow so yeah.
Age is just a number.
Play computer.
Yeah.
Boys.
Got some chicken dinners to be had.
Some dinner dates with the boys.
Kisses with the homies.
I even went and did all my errands today so I'm completely completely free tomorrow so
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yeah yeah I'm a good friend do what I can yeah.
Anyway anyway music.
Amazing.
Yeah fuck me I don't know.
I did I come across that reel essentially the other day with those two dudes.
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Oh yeah yeah yeah.
I was like shit out of it and I actually added that song to my thing.
Oh yeah.
Banda AL9.
Banda AL9.
Yeah.
Name of the song?
No the band.
The band.
Yeah and the song is She Calls Me Love.
And yeah it was just like a reel on Instagram with them two singing along and in their garage
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and like clapping their hands.
I was like yeah it's a really good harmony.
When you're laughing at your prick I got the hiccups.
Fuck off.
You're pissing a trash can you asshole.
Fletchlands yes continue.
And yeah no it's really really fucking good harmony.
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It kind of reminds me of the Beach Boys like now they've actually listened to the whole
song.
And I was just saying it's pretty cool.
Yeah yeah look you know I'm a sucker for some really good harmonies.
Especially ones that you know haven't been done through audio tuning and stuff like that.
What?
Fletchlands?
No.
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Especially?
Especially.
Especially.
Just the mic.
Especially X.
Uh is that a band?
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Especially X.
I feel like that's a...
I think you have a...
Huh.
I don't know I'll have to look it up.
I think that's a band.
What's that?
What's that superhero group?
They're part of Marvel?
Wolverine sort of part of it?
X-Men?
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Yeah.
That's what you're gonna be if you keep fucking talking shit.
You gotta be an X-Man.
It's not a bad group to be a part of.
Yeah but you gotta deal with Cyclops.
Hmm yeah.
Hmm.
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Anyway DC Superior.
That's anyway.
Fuck.
DC's investment dwellers.
Yeah fucking really good vocal harmonies.
Enjoyed the shit out of that song and for every other thing that I've been listening
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to it's just been the same old shit I always listen to.
I've just been smashing Cattle to the Capitation, Pendulum.
I probably should start smashing out some Parkway Drive because I'm going to see them
next week the 27th I think it is.
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So yeah.
Probably start remembering some of their fucking songs.
What's one of your favorites off the top of your head?
You can remember.
Um probably off their fucking like one of their early early albums.
Um I don't know if I can carry him.
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Yeah.
Yeah they're cool.
They're cool.
Like Australian.
Yeah.
They're from Byron Bay aren't they?
Yeah.
Yeah yeah yeah.
I think I saw a, I think you sent it to me, a video of them just on you know this tour
coming up and etc and they actually went back and did like a little behind the scenes of
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their old rehearsal room.
No that wasn't me.
I mean yeah maybe it was Taylor and it sort of just shows.
I've seen some of their old like rehearsal room and shit yeah it's fucking cool.
Yeah it was the drummer's parents house.
That's where I used to practice.
Yeah he wasn't a drummer.
He just became one because of the band.
Yeah right.
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So he's a drummer now.
He's a fucking good drummer now.
Yeah no um I forget where I read that but yeah apparently he um they needed a drummer
and they didn't want to kind of be left out so he at the drums and now he's fucking amazing.
Yeah yeah wow.
Isn't that funny how sometimes you just fall on, fall onto things and just works the way
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it should.
I hope it's everyone.
Happy birthday to me.
Oh well anyway no seriously I'll be over great dad tomorrow.
Might be my birthday but I've got something you can blow.
What's your favorite topic?
Cake.
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Mud cake.
I fuck with mud cake.
So I always talk about the takeaway store next to work back at the ginger beer factory.
It was in like a little like u-turn spot next to the factory and like there was a cafe there
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and um they did the best fucking chocolate mud cake.
When we when we got married we actually had the chocolate mud cake at our fucking wedding.
That's amazing.
Yeah I fucking I fuck with that shit.
It was great.
Yeah yeah that's cool.
Mud cakes awesome.
Yeah I love chocolate mud cake.
That's what I'm gonna do tomorrow.
I'm gonna find someone who's got some chocolate mud cake.
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And after work I'm gonna fucking treat myself to some chocolate mud cake.
Sit there, eat it, light a candle, run a bath, light a toaster.
Fucking damp me.
Don't fucking do that okay.
Can I joke about that shit on a mental health podcast?
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No no we can't even though we have several times.
Yeah terrible.
Yeah no no do it.
Okay.
Oh the cake.
Get the toaster.
God damn it.
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Fuck your toaster alright.
Jesus Christ.
I'm glad you don't have a bath.
Yeah no that's cool.
Mud cake mud cakes nice.
Yep I fuck with that.
What about you what's your favorite cake?
Carrot cake.
Oh yeah fuck with carrot cake hard.
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Right.
It's got to be moist though.
Oh yeah.
Like just a real nice yeah with the nice like.
You get a little bit of cashew every now and then when you bite into it or walnuts whatever
they are.
They add nuts to it anyway.
I love banana bread too.
It's not really a cake but banana bread.
Chocolate banana bread.
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I classify that as a cake.
Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah well I mean you know.
Blows up yeah yeah.
Yeah banana bread's good.
Carrot cake's better though.
Yep carrot cake.
Mud cakes.
Superior.
I'm just trying to think of another type of cake.
I don't know those ones are at the top of the list.
Alfredo ice cream cake that will always be just the best.
I don't fuck with ice cream cake.
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It's just ice cream it's not even a cake.
I don't care I don't fuck with it.
Just ice cream.
I don't care.
But you're not a fan you're not a massive fan of ice cream like me.
I'm a fiend for it.
It's bad.
Got a problem.
The only ice cream that I really fucking froth over.
It's golden gate.
Yeah yeah.
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Golden gate homes.
They're good.
I don't even know if that's like a global thing.
I wonder if that's just Australian.
I'm pretty sure it's just Australian.
Well isn't it Streets brand?
Yeah.
I think that's an Australian brand I think.
I'm pretty sure golden gate homes are Australian.
Yeah well if they are and you're listening from overseas if you're ever over in Australia
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walk into any servo they still do those fridges.
They still do those fridges where you walk in and there's like those you know those fridges
you slide them across and there's like a million ice creams.
About Milo ice cream.
Oh yeah.
Oh yeah yeah yeah.
Yeah yeah there's some good gems.
Oh I watched a video the other day it was like an American dude like tasting Australian
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foods and he got Milo and he just like shoved the tablespoon into the Milo and just like
fucking tried to eat it.
Had a munch.
Like inhaled half of it.
You fucking idiot.
And we've all done that.
Yeah.
Yeah as kids yeah.
You grab a heap.
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Yeah yeah no one's looking like actually no one's looking.
You walk over to the pantry with a big tablespoon you crack open the lid.
It was always the worst when you'd get to it you crack open the lid and you realise
the aluminium foil was still over the top.
Hadn't been pierced.
And you would know that you were the one to open it.
We weren't allowed to open stuff as a kid like because once it was open it would be
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gone.
So the rule was mum had to open, be the first to open all the grocery stuff at home.
I remember, fucking here's one for you, I remember another leap of logic of mine which
hit me in the arse.
I fucking love cinnamon donuts.
I love fresh cinnamon donuts right.
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Fuck this.
Are they crispy?
A little bit crispy on the outside.
A little bit crispy on the inside, on the inner ring.
Oh the inner ring.
Yeah everything else is like doughy and fucking hot and then you bite in you've got that little
crispy ring on the centre.
Fuck was that so hard.
So fresh cinnamon donuts.
(50:10):
Obviously the jar of cinnamon in the cupboard is gonna taste like fresh cinnamon donuts
isn't it?
No it fucking didn't.
Trying to eat the fucking cinnamon out of the fucking jar.
I did the cinnamon challenge before it was cool.
Yeah.
That's exactly what I was thinking.
Fucking bullshit.
Oh shit.
Crazy.
At least that's a logical like understand that one.
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So you know it's like oh cinnamon donuts obviously cinnamon is gonna be sweet.
I could know it's not.
I swear once I don't know how it happened but I swear instead of getting a mouthful of
sugar I've ended up with a mouthful of salt.
Cock.
Salt.
Why is it spicy?
(51:01):
Yeah no that's good.
Anyway back to music.
Music yeah yeah so I played a gig on the weekend.
Because you know I played up in Toowoomba.
I say up in Toowoomba but it's west.
It's a country sort of not really but kind of.
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Anyway Toowoomba it's about a three hour drive from Brisbane city if you don't know.
And we played a gig up there it was fantastic.
It was just a little micro brewery.
They seem to be the thing nowadays.
Little micro breweries that make their own little bit of beer and anyway it was really
cool.
Weirdest stage I've ever played on but really cool.
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It was longer than it was wider.
Nickel for every time I've heard that.
That's why I'm broke.
But yeah so you think I'm at the back usually as a drummer right?
Yeah.
(52:03):
I was at the back.
I was way way beyond.
Yeah it was weird.
It was really long but really cool.
Nice venue.
Awesome venue.
And for the first time in my gigging life I rocked up.
Picked up my pair of sticks and I could play.
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And it wasn't one of those cases of oh yeah the venue has a kit.
The kit ends up being a bag of dicks.
Nice kit.
Beautiful cymbals.
And a double kicker.
All I had to walk up and bring was my sticks.
Didn't use your own pedal?
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I guess you wouldn't have had to use your own.
I would have used my own pedal because my pedals have adjusted it so that it works with
how I like it.
Yeah it's your pedals.
My pedals.
But I actually brought my electric kit not knowing if there was a kit provided.
And halfway to the venue I got a call saying yeah there's a kit.
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I was like sick.
I packed my kit.
But yeah cool.
So yeah I didn't have my kicker.
I had my single but I didn't have my double and I just left it.
So but anyway.
No really cool venue.
But anyway we were doing original, sorry not originals, we were doing covers.
Covers of like 80s, 90s, 2000s, 2010s all through to now.
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Obviously as a session musician on the night and playing for some other guy.
And as I was, I created a playlist of all these old covers that people love listening
to in pubs and bars and all that sort of crap.
And a song that...
Same shit.
It is always the same shit.
Yeah yeah yeah yeah.
But yeah it gets people up and dancing.
It's what it is.
(53:48):
Get that on the big jobs.
What a donkey punched your singer and took the microphone.
Bass player.
Bass player was my singer for my band.
He was playing bass.
At one point he did push the singer off of the mic and he started singing the song instead.
It was great.
But one of the songs that we didn't play but it came up in a shuffle with the playlist
(54:09):
of things that I was listening to was You Get What You Give by New Radicals.
Oldie bitty goodie came out in 1998.
1998.
Old but gold.
I can't believe that that came out in 1998.
Great song.
Fantastic song.
Enjoyed the shit out of it.
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It's just a fun song.
Had me in a good mood last week when I was listening to it.
I'm pretty sure the day before you were listening to your playlist we were sending fucking bangers
like blast from the past.
We were doing a big blast from the past.
Great songs.
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It's always good when you get on a roll like that.
You think of one song and you're like yeah that was such a good song and then you're
like oh but what about.
It goes on and on and on.
And you just remember all the songs when you were young and you're just like yeah just
banger.
Yep yep.
We were supposed to play Better by the Screaming Jets.
And we didn't.
(55:10):
I was so disappointed.
I really wanted to play it.
It's got such a cool drum beat to it.
Such a great song.
Oh yeah.
Yeah yeah yeah.
It's cool.
Cool as shit.
The live version is fucking love the live version.
And then the guitar comes in and it's like.
Yeah.
(55:30):
It's good.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We had that conversation last week about the Screaming Jets.
How cool they are.
I think they're touring.
Actually.
Yeah I think they're touring at the moment.
Anyway.
That's my story.
That's it.
That was critical.
That was critical.
We better wrap this up then.
(55:52):
What are we talking about next week?
And I'll give you a hint.
It's not Fletcher Lens.
The correct way to piss.
Yeah.
He has a 10 step guide on how not to sleepwalk and flash a dick to your mum as a 14 year
(56:13):
old.
So many embarrassing stories.
Work, life balance and mental health.
Oh yeah.
That's what we're doing.
I'd actually forgotten.
Cool.
That'll be fun.
We work a lot, play a lot, laugh a lot.
Cool.
Try a lot.
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No, it's just you.
Thanks for listening to this week.
Check out the Instagram, the YouTube, the Facebook, whatever you want to check out.
Go have a listen to other episodes if you like.
And otherwise.
See you next week.
It's OK to not be OK.
Ducks suck.
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