October 27, 2024 • 53 mins
Naughty or Nice?! This week on the Pain In Our Head Podcast, Caleb & Christian talk about holiday seasons (Christmas in particular) and the impact these special times of the year can have on your mental health. Listen in as they discuss some Christmas music, traditions and band practices.
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What's going on everyone?
Welcome to this week's episode of the Pain in Our Head podcast.
Hey howdy.
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This week, we're talking about holidays.
Yeah.
Hmm, your idea.
You had a good idea.
Yeah, it was kind of a fucking a two part idea like, yeah it's a good idea and also
it's a fucking bit of a shit stir as well because people get so butt heard about Christmas
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celebrations and like decorations and shit coming out early.
Oh yeah.
It's me.
And I'm like, well it's not even quite November yet so let's talk about Christmas.
Let's turn it down.
As you work, we just got special Christmas bags.
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I saw them today.
Yes it usually does start late October.
It's getting earlier and earlier.
We used to wait until like Halloween was done but now I'm seeing stuff come through in September.
Yeah, holiday season.
Hmm.
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Holidays, but yeah.
Christmas is the big one.
That's definitely the biggest one.
It's big for us over here because it's, that's our end of the year.
That's where we have like the most time off.
Whereas it's different like say over in the States where they're biggest time off and
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yeah they've got Thanksgiving and then spring break.
So they call it over there.
That's where they have their biggest time off.
But still a really big holiday all over the world, Christmas.
Do you like Christmas?
No.
I'm a Grinch.
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I don't mind it.
The kids getting excited about it but like personally I'm just like, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, enjoyed it as a kid.
It is good for the young ones I think.
They get excited and I can imagine like for yourself seeing them happy is pretty fucking
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cool.
So yeah, yeah.
I always get stressed.
I'm getting so much to talk about when it comes to mental health and Christmas because
the first thing that pops into my head is like, how the fuck am I going to buy all these
presents for everybody and am I going to have enough money?
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Anyway, I'm getting ahead of myself but yes, that's exactly where my mind goes when we
think about holiday and Christmas and time off and yeah.
So that's why we're doing this episode.
Yeah, yeah.
Pretty much.
How's your week been?
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Busy.
Yep, yep.
Yeah, yeah.
I wore yogurt.
Yes.
I wore yogurt yesterday.
That was fun.
A bit of man yogurt.
Yeah, yep.
Yep.
All down one side of my leg.
So that was good.
Yeah, it's hot.
Yeah.
It wasn't even just like straight yogurt either.
It's one with a little bit of fruit in it.
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So I had like chunks of mango like just everywhere.
Should have just taken your pants off and licked them clean.
I just done the rest of my delivery.
I just passed a coles truck and Kayliss was like.
Hanging my pants out the window trying to dry them off.
Yeah.
I reckon someone would call up about that.
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Yep.
Even if like you told me about it, I would ring your store.
Top in.
Where you calling from?
South Australia.
I know he's doing it.
Yeah.
That's it.
True friends.
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But what about your week?
How's your week been?
Yep.
It's all right.
It's been a week.
There's been days at end in why.
I love that.
I used to love that ad.
Yellow cab.
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Yeah.
I've got nothing to report in really.
It's just been a week.
I guess I had a shorter day yesterday, which put me in a good mood today.
So you got just bombed with voice notes and singing videos.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
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Yeah.
Got me on a singing today.
Which normally wouldn't do on a Tuesday.
I don't think.
That's good.
Enjoyed it.
Yep.
We started a playlist for when Caleb comes to visit.
All the songs we're going to sing together.
I feel sorry for everyone on my Snapchat list.
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It's just going to be constant fucking videos of us fucking singing together.
Yeah.
The drive is not going to be long enough.
It's going to go so quick.
Yeah.
We're up to like over three hours in the playlist and it's like a 40 minute drive to get back
to where I am.
Yeah.
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Yeah.
About 50 minutes from the airport.
If you're, this is a question for you.
If you're enjoying a song, really enjoying a song and you're only halfway through it
and you're about to pull like into your driveway or into work or wherever you're going, do
you do another lap around the block to finish the song before you?
No, I pull up and let everyone else enjoy it.
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Well, yeah, that too.
Sometimes I'm turning down for no one.
But sometimes I, yeah, no, I used to do another lap around the block so I could finish the
song and then I'd pull into the driveway and get out.
Yeah.
It depended on the situation.
Like if I was doing like a night shift or something and I was rolling in at like six
o'clock in the morning, then yes, I would definitely like, you know, go past my street
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and be like do do do do do do do do and quietly turn the radio down and pull in.
I've been listening to technical death metal at six o'clock in the morning at fucking max
volume.
It's the only way.
Yeah.
It pumps you up in the morning.
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Yeah, I don't listen to music on the drive to work.
I listen to my audio book.
No, really?
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's a little bit easier to just tune in and just be like, yeah, sick.
I'm listening to a story.
I'm just cruising along to work.
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Then once I get to work, I'm usually like, all right, now I need to wake up and get going.
Let's fucking work.
I'm listening to music.
Nice.
I pump it.
I pump it.
As soon as I get out of the driveway.
Hmm.
It's good.
Hmm.
Got any good things that you like about Christmas or holidays?
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Other than time off.
But see, that's the other thing.
I'm casual.
I don't want the fucking time off.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's exactly right.
I mean, we go all through Christmas and all that sort of stuff.
We used to do, I think we were open Christmas day.
Pretty sure Coles is open fucking Christmas day.
No, we're closed.
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It's the only one out of like three days that we close.
It's Christmas day, Good Friday, and there's one other.
Yes.
Yes.
They're the three days.
Yep.
Hmm.
Yes.
Uh, I love that tattoo.
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One on your hand.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The microphone.
It's like, sit down.
Fuck that sick.
Oh yeah, that's right.
I've got a tattoo there.
Dude, I forget about my tattoos all the time.
Well, I mean, they're in a spot that you don't look at every all the time.
Yeah.
People are like, what's on your neck?
And I'm like, try to look.
Like which side like one's cool and one's not like the not cool ones.
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Fucking shit.
Have you ever seen it?
I've seen both of them.
I'm pretty sure I got that one.
Yeah.
No, I've seen that one.
Yeah.
That's a stinker.
I need to get that covered up.
How would you cover up that writing?
The big fucking black.
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Just black it out.
That whole side of my neck is fucking black.
Hmm.
It's fucking, it says only the weak die young.
Yeah.
I mean, it's not terrible.
Not terrible, but it's also not good.
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I've seen worse.
Hmm.
Much worse.
Yeah.
It's still pretty fucking edgy.
Hmm.
One of the chicks was dating a drummer.
She was, she got real butt hurt over that when I got it done.
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I said like ex fiance had like.
Hmm.
Right.
Yeah.
So she was like, well, at the time I was a piece of shit.
So I was like, well, only the weak die young.
And that was like.
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It was insane.
I was like, you're about to get a drumstick to the eye.
Like that, like that video I saw the other day.
I almost did that to myself today.
With what?
I had my pen in my hand and I was like doing something and I like,
if I could poke myself in the eye, but I had my glasses on.
I was just like, ooh, that's not close.
And I saw that, I saw that you had your pen in your hand when you sent me a
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singing video.
Hmm.
And the first thing I thought of was like, yeah, the drumstick like
flying up hit the guy in the eye.
I've always got my pen in my hand and I like, I balance it between my fingers.
And like, like if this was the joystick for the, for the loader,
it's got like, you hold it like that.
There's like a thumb switch for forward and backwards.
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And then there's also a tilt, a rollout for the bucket.
And like I sit there and I just like bounce the, the, the, um,
the pen on the toggle so that it like does like that all kind of gravity
blasts.
I was like, yeah.
No, it's amazing.
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Good.
Yeah.
I don't know if something good about Christmas.
It's like, I guess as I've gotten older, it's like,
it's a chance to get together with family, but like when Christmas for my family,
generally is a shitter of a time.
Hmm.
Like just all the emotions start to blow up between everybody.
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And it's like, right.
Christmas is canceled.
I don't want anyone coming over.
And then it's like, okay, everyone has to be here.
And then all of a sudden Christmas is canceled.
And it's like, I hate you.
You hate them.
It's just like, Holy shit.
Like, I just want to get together with granddad.
I can talk a bit of shit, listen to his stories, have a feed,
and then fuck off to see my friends so I can get on the piss.
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Cause that's the other, that's the thing I like about Christmas.
Sorry.
Dutchmas.
Oh, you've mentioned this before.
Yeah.
You get this with your mates.
Yeah.
So me and the guys back in Queensland, we've got this tradition of Dutchmas.
So Arnold Schwarzenegger's character in Predator is Dutch.
Like his name is Dutch.
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So we would get together and watch the Predator.
And that's why it's called Dutchmas.
And that was our Christmas celebration.
We'd all get together, take our shirts off.
And every time something manly happened during the movie,
you had to yell out manly and take a drink from your beer.
Mm-hmm.
And one Dutchmas, I went through a whole carton of beers during the Predator.
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Like an hour and a half movie.
Yeah.
And then I proceeded to a Naruto run to the fucking Domino's like two blocks away.
I full on Naruto ran too cause I was so drunk that I was convinced
that it was a better way of running.
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Well, so here's me pissed as a nit with my arms and,
Niiiiiit!
And then I ended up at my sister's house cause she lived around the corner
and she wasn't even home but her husband was.
And I was just pissed as a nit and he was trying to play Xbox
and I was just talking absolute dog shit.
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Nice.
Yeah.
So that's what I enjoy about Christmas is Dutchmas.
Dutchmas.
Sounds pretty good.
Mm.
Mm.
Yeah, I've had a few Christmases.
Yeah.
Mm.
Yeah.
I remember one year I got sick of all the drama
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and I decided not to stuff it, I'm staying home this year.
So I stayed at home all day, didn't go anywhere, didn't talk to anyone.
It's pretty good.
It's terrible, hey?
No, sometimes that's the thing, you get so overwhelmed by meeting up
with friends and family and going out and doing all those Christmas things,
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all those holiday things that you do, it becomes overwhelming.
There's got to be a good segway into the whole topic,
there's a lot of expectation around, sorry, a lot of expectation around Christmastime.
People expect that it's all about spending time with friends and family
and swapping gifts and having these big extravagant feasts that everyone gets together
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or depending on how you were raised or your family background,
it might be completely different, it might be expected that everyone gets together
and gets on the pierce or there's a lot of expectations around
how you're meant to celebrate it and at the end of the day,
it's how you want to fucking celebrate it.
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Fuck tradition.
It's not up to other people to dictate how you choose to celebrate things.
A lot of people have scoffed at Dutchmas because what's it got to do with Christmas?
Well, nothing, because none of us care about Christmas.
It's just an excuse for us to get together and celebrate friendship and manliness.
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Yeah, that's a really good thing about it, about having the time off
and being able to get together with the people that you enjoy the company of
and that helps you feel good.
It's a great thing for your mental health.
We also do Rambista.
Rambista.
Ramboadista.
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That's good.
I like that.
Rambista and Dutchmas.
Rambista.
Same shit, we just watch Rambo and get really drunk.
I remember.
Do you die and resurrect a few days later?
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I fucking did.
I did.
Here's the story.
When I went back to Queensland last time, it was around the Christmas time.
It was for Christmas actually, yeah it was, it was at Christmas.
I was in a really fucking bad place.
I'd done some stupid shit.
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Fuck off, fine.
She just yeeted across the room.
Fuck off!
Anyway, so I was in Queensland and we did Dutchmas.
And I had organised a hotel room, because I was staying with my mate
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and a really close friend of mine, we'd been flirting and it was like,
oh, we'll get a hotel room and just hang out, if something happens, something happens.
I wrote myself off, I became a meme for the second fucking time.
There's pictures of me, like there's the one where I'm like passed out in the gutter
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with the vomit, that was photoshopped into different positions and all this sort of shit.
Then there's another one where I'm like passed out on this couch, shirt off, gut hanging out.
Like, I'd shaved my head, I had like a full Britney meltdown, I'd shaved my head.
And I'm just like sprawled out on the couch like this, fucking gut hanging out, cobbloaf on my gut.
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Like, I was fucked, I was a mess.
And this chick showed up and I was already written off.
She was so pissed, because she was like really keen.
I was really keen, but I wasn't expecting anything.
And she shows up and like I'm just blackout drunk.
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And I fucking resurrect, I pulled that shit together.
I got my shit together and slayed it like a champion that night.
Fucking proud of myself.
I had no right to even be like functioning as a basic human after how fucking drunk I was.
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Wouldn't be the last time you disappointed someone.
I didn't disappoint, I came through many times.
Nice, very nice.
Oh nice, I like that.
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Just on that, that's right, you don't have to do what you're told.
You don't have to conform to what the usual is.
Make your own Christmas celebration.
Is that like if it means sitting at home, fuck it.
Yeah, even a few years ago I blew a family, and Taylor and I did.
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That's a perfectly fine saying.
A family.
Blew off.
Yeah, we went to just a friend's Christmas instead, one year.
That was really good.
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Well, that's the other thing too, like as your family starts to grow in that, especially if you've all grown up in the same area,
people start to split off.
So for me growing up, it was always, wake up in the morning at home, do some presents there, go to grandma and granddad's, do more presents there, have breakfast,
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recover until like 10 in the morning, and then you'd go to Nan and Pops and do Christmas there and have Christmas lunch with them, and then you'd go home and try not to fucking die from the food coma.
And then you'd sometimes go back to grandma and granddad's for like dinner.
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And then as we got older and like relationships started to show up and it was like, okay, cool. It's like, well, let's do like a big breakfast at this house, and then like go your separate ways.
Because it's like, then I've got to go see my girlfriend's parents for their Christmas day, and it's like, and yeah, sisters, partners, and fuck all that shit.
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And it's like, it just, it starts to become a fucking mess.
Like it's what does it, you spend most of your day driving around. Yeah. Who wants to do that?
If you got my playlist, me. Fucking drive around all day.
So yeah, so say no, if you need to. Exactly. It's okay to say no.
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But yeah, just the thing. You're very popular. No, no, that's Bring Me Into Horizon song.
Oh, yes. I was going rabid. Shut the fuck up. Doing my head in.
That's my favorite part of that song. It's a good song too.
I heard, I like, damn it, I listened to it today. Forgotten it. Kingslayer. Yeah, no, Kingslayer is a good one, but I really like, damn it.
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I can't remember for the life of me. Cool Aid off a new one. I don't know. It's not Cool Aid. I do like Cool Aid, but no, it's an older one, I think.
Drown. Nah. Drone. Nah. Ludens. Nah.
Areside Eve. That is a good song. I really like that song. But it's not, it wasn't that, not the one I was thinking of.
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Oh well, doesn't matter. They've got heaps of good music. San Paternal. No.
When that song first came out, I was just like, what's this? This is a new Bring Me Into Horizon song. And I was just like, yeah. It's a fucking good song.
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Yeah. So I guess that was leading into, yeah, feeling anxious, stress, feeling anxiety around having to, you know, buy presents, bring presents, make everyone happy. That's something that I don't like.
You know, you're trying to be the person that makes everyone happy. And then sometimes you become like, no one's looking out for you.
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So look out for yourself first, especially in these holiday periods, because if you're not okay, it's going to translate.
And you are very popular today.
Depending on how, like you said before, some, you know, it could be customary.
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Jeez, I've muffed that. I did? Yeah, customary. It could be customary to drink or whatever it is at family celebrations and things like that.
Maybe that doesn't work. Maybe you end up lying on a couch with a cobalove on your gut.
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Find those pictures and send them to you. Yeah, I'd love to see them. I'm going to take a photo of one of them into the paint me like you're French women from Titanic.
She's like naked on the chair. They replaced it with me.
I clip those. If you do find it, I'm going to put it in the video. Just for the quarter. Yeah. If you're only listening on Spotify.
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I think it was the fall asleep one. Actually, there was two pictures. There was one where I'm like fucking full, like chucking and spread.
There's another one where I'm like all cuddled up using my hands as a pillow. Oh, that's great. I was fucked.
I sound like a major piss head, but I don't drink. That's why I get so fucking drunk when I do. Yeah. Well, that's what happens to me.
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So if you know that, try and stay away from the drink. That's always good. Drugs and alcohol and all that sort of rattle rattle rattle.
But no, I don't. I go hard at Christmas. And then regret it for the next week. Yeah. I also put on like five kilos.
Yep. And then I started early this year. What's your favorite? What's your food traditions?
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What do you enjoy eating? A bit of Christmas food.
I hate that. It gives me so much creative. I hate it so much. Damn it. I can't believe I went there. I can't stand that skip.
A little bit of pot and a little bit of custard. Never too much custard.
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I don't know why you hate it. It's amazing. No, it just doesn't work for me. It makes me cringe.
This is the best. I don't know. My favorite food for Christmas.
It would probably just be all the desserts. We used to do a massive Christmas Eve. Christmas Eve is the night before, isn't it?
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So we used to do a massive Christmas Eve barbecue party with all the family and shit.
It was just a massive barbecue and then just a shit ton of desserts like custard tarts, cheesecakes, jelly slides, fucking everything.
And so you just smash down your fucking barbecue and then it was just like, yeah, we fucking.
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And the barbecue was always good too. Anyway, it was just like, you'd just be fucked.
And then you had dessert to come out. And then it's like the same thing with like, it was always pancakes for breakfast, Christmas Day.
I fucking love pancakes. And then lunch would be the same thing at Nana and Pop's.
It was always Nana would cook like this massive fucking silverside for lunch.
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And then after the silverside, it was always like, you know, jelly, ice cream, custard, fucking everything.
I smashed myself stupid desserts. Just a little bit more, just a little bit more.
And then before you know it, you're rolling on the floor, trying the tummy ache.
Yeah, that's cool. Yeah, I just, yeah, I really like the, we usually do a lot of roast meats.
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But I like all of them, all of them. Yeah, but ham, roast potatoes.
Fucking ham. Ham. Yeah, ham. Ham off the bone. Yeah.
The ham gets me the most. Yeah, I fucking love me some ham. Oh yeah.
I roll up, I'm like, yeah, a few veggies. How fucking good, how fucking good is ham and mashed potato?
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You get a bit of mashed potato, you put the nice hot mashed potato in your cold slice of ham and you're like...
That's it, because I'd grab a little bit of veggies and then a fuckload of potatoes.
And then I'd be like, yeah, a little bit of beef, a little bit of turkey, maybe a little bit of chicken.
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And then I'd get the ham and I'd get an extra plate. That's how much room I needed for the ham that I was grabbing.
And that was it. That'd be my two plate. Yeah.
And gravy. Oh yeah, fucking love me some gravy. I just drink it. I don't even have to have it with anything.
Dad's a big fucking sucker for that white sauce to go with your silverside. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
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That creamy cheesy sauce. Whatever the fuck it is. Yeah.
He's having a silverside, that's what he's got to fucking have. Yeah, okay.
Nice. Making me hungry. Yeah, me too.
One thing I do like about Christmas, it can be bad actually, that social media use.
On holidays, Christmas time, all that sort of stuff.
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I like it because me personally, I put my phone away for the day usually.
Especially if I'm with friends or with family, I usually just don't even bother.
I'll leave my phone in the other room. I like that. It's nice to not watch on.
Lots of people put stuff all over social media.
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We've talked about the fear of missing out and the fear of finding out and rada, rada, rada.
I try and leave it alone.
But it is good though for long distance catching up with people.
Especially if you can't see people in person during those holidays.
It's great. Social media is really good for that.
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Just for your mental health, there's a balance.
I hit a sore spot. No.
What?
I can't.
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I wasn't even trying to make you cry.
Just fuck you. It reminded me fucking this last Christmas.
I had to go stay at someone else's house because where I live was full of Shaz's family.
I wanted to go stay by myself over Christmas.
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I was stuck down here in South Australia.
I didn't get to see my friends or family for Christmas.
Christmas Day for me was just sitting there twiddling my thumbs going,
Cool, anyone want to come online and play computer with me?
I'm not trying to guilt you.
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There's a really good example.
Christmas can be really fucking hard for some people.
This Christmas that we just passed, that was a really fucking hard one for me.
I was in a really dark place.
It's like a bittersweet as well.
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Your family messages you and tries to call you to check on you.
But then it also reminds you that you're not there with them.
You're all alone.
Cool, thanks for checking in.
I appreciate it, but at the same time it's just a really fucking horrible reminder.
I'll have a good present ready for you on Christmas Day this year.
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I've already got it planned.
I'll FaceTime you.
Except you won't see my face.
It's going to be a fucking close up of you nuts.
Merry Christmas, you filthy animal.
On the second day of Christmas, Caleb gave to me two nuts a hanging.
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I enjoy Christmas music, which I'm going to talk about.
Fuck Christmas music.
I don't like it, but there's some good ones out there.
I thought about it today.
I got no fucking Christmas songs that I like listening to.
It's a few, so I'll talk about them.
Christmas movies.
Predator.
A lot of movies.
I was going to say Die Hard.
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Die Hard, yeah.
Christmas movie.
Lethal Weapon.
Christmas movie.
So I watch those.
Bread One.
Bread One.
That's got to be soon, right?
Is that this Thursday?
I reckon it might be this Thursday.
Dad said.
I'm excited for this one.
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7th of November.
So that'll be the week when you show up because you show up on the 9th.
Yeah, excited for that.
That'll be cool.
Maybe I'll see if it's out of the movies.
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We could go on a movie date together and watch it.
Oh, that's cute.
I'll be sure to bring my flip flops.
Fuck off.
You take your shoes off in the fucking cinema and I'm going to break each of your toes.
I'll get a seat just behind you as well.
No.
No.
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Oh, gosh.
Anyway, moral of the story is to just beware around holiday times and be
aware of friends and family and just think about things you can do to stop those
stresses and stop your mental health from spiralling out of control.
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It is a terrible time or can be a terrible time of the year as you've mentioned for many
different reasons.
You may be away from family and things like that and, you know, there's lots of
different things to make those holiday periods really, really tricky.
So check in with people as we're coming into it now because we're really only just
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over two months away now.
So it's really not that far away.
It's amazing how quickly it goes.
So that's my main takeaway from it.
Good topic.
It really is.
It's such a horrible, horrible thing for our mental health sometimes if we let it.
I think like the day itself generally ends up good.
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It's always that build up to it.
It's the lead up to Christmas where everyone starts to stress.
It's like, am I going to have the money?
Like, am I going to have the time?
Like, is everyone going to get along?
Like, is everyone going to enjoy the presents?
Are we going to have enough first?
It's chill the fuck out.
No one cares.
Just show up, hang out, fuck off.
Yep.
Eat the food.
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Piss off.
All right.
We're going to have a quick break.
We'll be back in just a moment.
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We've been chatting about holidays and how it can fuck with your mental health.
And all of that.
It's been good.
It's a good topic.
Really good topic.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So.
Hmm.
Hmm.
Hmm.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
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Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
All right.
So, music wise, I haven't really been listening to anything new.
No.
Been listening to a lot of different stuff though.
I've been listening to I Prevail.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Look.
Yeah.
That's.
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Yeah.
Yeah.
They've popped up.
Popped up for me.
Listen to a few songs.
I've been listening to more of the Amity Affliction.
Yep.
Yep.
Yeah.
Yep.
I do enjoy a lot of their stuff, to be honest.
Soak me in bleach.
I really enjoy that one.
I've been enjoying that this week.
Or over the past week.
Hmm.
But yes.
Yes.
Yes.
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Yes.
But one thing in Christmas music.
Hey.
Amity is Australian, aren't they?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think they're from.
I think they're the ones that were from Gimpie.
Really?
Yeah.
I'm pretty sure.
Well, the lead singer.
I think he's definitely from Gimpie, I'm pretty sure.
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And I think a long time ago they did some concert, big concert up there.
After that sort of got pretty big.
No, they are from Gimpie.
The Amity Affliction is Australian post hardcore band from Gimpie, 2003.
Hmm.
Yep.
There you go.
Hmm.
Yeah.
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Crazy.
Not a lot of things come out of Gimpie.
They would be probably the one and only.
Sorry for anyone who's from Gimpie.
I'm going to get some hate mail.
Man, they can't type.
Fucking inbreds.
For anyone who's listening, go, what the fuck is Gimpie?
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Gimpie's a hole.
Yeah, that's it.
It's like when you grow up in Brisbane, Gimpie is referred to as the hole.
And that's all it's known as.
Actually for the longest time I thought it was just like a big hole and a few people
like lived on the outskirts.
It's a fucking bomb crater.
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That's what I had in my head.
It's like fall out.
Gimpie.
Actually, you know what?
There is another good thing about Gimpie, the McDonald's on the Bruce Highway.
Best Maccas I've ever had.
Yeah, I tend to stop when I used to live there.
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I'm not there.
When I used to live in Queensland, I used to stop at Gimpie.
Yeah.
Just, usually you get Maccas and it looks nothing like the photos and shit.
And that's what you expect.
Now, I've been there a couple of times and every time I've been there, it comes out picture
perfect and just tastes amazing and it's fresh and hot.
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And I just couldn't believe it.
So if you're in Brisbane or you're around the area in Queensland, stop at the Gimpie
Maccas.
If it's shit, I'm sorry.
Welcome to Gimpie.
That's right.
Locky car.
Seriously.
Yeah.
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Seriously, locky car.
Apparently, they're bypassing Gimpie now.
Yeah.
I don't know if it's finished.
They finished building that.
But yeah, the plan is for it to go completely around it.
Yeah, the Bruce Highway, the main highway in Queensland used to go straight through
Gimpie, but now they can bypass it.
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So it's going to be an even bigger hole.
Which is sad though.
Yeah, like all jokes aside, it's actually fucking shit for Gimpie.
It is.
A lot of people would say that's kind of a good middle spot to pull up, fuel up, whatever
you need to do, pull over.
Yeah, I used to fuel up when I...
Because I used to have the Ninja 636 and that had been my stop usually.
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On the way down to Brisbane, I knew I could make it to Gimpie and I'd fuel up there.
Or when I'd leave Brisbane, I'd fuel up in Gimpie and I knew I could make it home.
Yeah.
Yep.
Unless I was screaming.
Then I'd have to stop at Maribor and turn off.
Oh yeah, it's there.
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Oh, I've got...
Maribor is even worse.
I should add North Maribor, we used to have a lot of gigs there.
Oh yeah, yeah yeah.
We got stuck there a few years back now because of the floods.
We couldn't go any further, coming back to Brisbane, that was as far as we could get
to.
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We'd driven from Bundaberg down and taken all day just because of how fucked and the
way we had to go.
We thought we had booked a motel for that night.
We'd actually booked it for the next night and they had no rooms, no air rooms.
We had to turn around, drive all the way back to Bundaberg to stay there.
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I wouldn't have slept in my car.
Yeah, we thought about it but...
Maribor.
Maribor.
Enough said.
So, anyway.
Christmas music, I'm not a fan of Christmas music at the best of times.
I hate hearing it over the radio in shopping centres.
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It's beginning to look like Christmas.
Yeah yeah.
Fuck off, no it's not.
There's a few artists that defrost around this time of the year and get ready for Christmas.
Anyway...
Gary, you bitch.
I've got nothing against him.
Yeah, anyway.
It's very popular.
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Very fucking popular.
Well done.
The only good thing to come out of Michael Buble is a Russian unicorn.
What?
You know the song I'm talking about, right?
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I know what you're thinking about, but fuck you and your unicorn.
That Russian unicorn from Bad Lip Reading is amazing.
It's pretty good.
It's alright.
Anyway, continue.
Tell me your story about your Christmas.
Yeah, so exciting.
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I like a couple.
I like Hark the Herald.
I think it's a good song.
I would have thought you'd like Little Drummer Boy.
I did.
Yeah I do.
Christmas comes around and Caleb's there in his drum kit.
Come and he told me.
I do like the ones that they do with Family Guy.
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Have you heard those ones?
Yeah.
I brought these gifts for you.
They're up in my bum.
I'll have to send it to you.
There's a whole skit on Peter singing Christmas carols.
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It's ludicrous.
Anyway, yeah.
But no, Hark the Herald and a lot of people have done covers of it, obviously.
Pentatonix have done one.
Oh yeah.
That's an interesting one.
Yeah, they do it pretty well.
Pentatonix are pretty fucking cool.
Yeah they are.
They're very cool.
I went through a stage where I was obsessed with acapella.
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Yes.
I still like acapella.
Yeah.
I think it's incredible what they can do with their voices.
Just amazing.
Like Van Canto.
They're fucking amazing.
They're a metal band.
Yeah.
Insane.
So that's a good one.
I am biased towards these two, but a good friend and musician, artist AMP, he released
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a cover of Hark the Herald and Oh Holy Night.
And I drum on those tracks.
So pretty cool.
I saw that fly go past.
Excuse me.
Yeah.
So I really like Oh Holy Night.
I like what we did on that track.
It's some of my favorite, some of the good drumming I've done.
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I did it a while ago.
I'm definitely better now than I was then, but I did enjoy what I did for that track.
So that was cool.
Yeah.
That's my story.
Go have a listen.
I wasn't talking to you.
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I listened to you stand tall.
Oh yeah.
I've got that on my iTunes list.
Yeah, that's not too bad.
Yeah.
He's got another one that hasn't been released that I've drummed on.
And that's really, really good.
I don't know if he's going to release it though.
So anyway, I digress.
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My turn?
Yeah.
If you want.
I'm just going to do a shameless self plug because I don't think I've fucking really
spoken that much about it.
Oh yeah.
Go for it.
Iron Wizard.
Iron Wizard.
I love them guys.
Their lead singer is a legend.
That's all right.
I'm going to be.
I was in a band for years.
Got Blue Wallet tanks.
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Back in Queensland.
It started off as a cover band for Sabaton.
I sent singing to my two best mates and was like, I think I sound okay.
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And Tomo was like, we should start a fuck a band.
I was like, okay.
So we started doing Sabaton covers in his backyard, in his shed.
And then one day he was like, I wrote a song.
I was like, cool.
What is it?
He's like, it's pretty heavy.
I was like, okay, I guess I'll try to do metal vocals then.
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And then it just blew up from there.
We wrote a whole fucking album.
Actually, the original song that he wrote never made it to the album and that was like
a fan favorite.
Because it was just so different to the rest of the stuff we had for the album.
It just didn't fit.
We should have released it as like a bonus track, maybe.
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Maybe we'll re-release it.
It's on SoundCloud, isn't it?
Because that's where I listen to it, I'm pretty sure.
You sent me a link to the SoundCloud, I thought.
Maybe.
I think I did send you a link to, I think it was Tomo's.
I think it was Tomo's SoundCloud and he had a couple of our early, early stuff up there.
Okay.
But yeah, so we released an album, a Scatternaught and it's on like YouTube, Spotify, iTunes
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and I do all the vocals for it.
Probably my two favorite tracks would be Ashburner and Eros Denatos.
They're my two favorite tracks off the album.
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Eros Denatos is the only track on the album that's got some clean singing for about 30
seconds.
Ashburner was just a fucking fun song.
I really grooved on that shit and got really excited when it was time to play that song.
It was fucking great fun.
Band practice was a great excuse to get together with the guys and talk a lot of shit and pretend
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to play music.
As you could imagine.
I don't know how well you get along with your bandmates, but our band practices were like
60% fucking shit talk and then 15% setup and the rest was actual playing of instruments.
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Yeah.
It used to be when we were doing our originals and then since moved to covers, it's been
a little bit more go, go, go.
We've got this much time to rehearse, stop dicking around, let's get this done sort of
thing.
But definitely when we were doing originals, yeah, it was just a lot of shit talk.
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Yeah.
I think it's just different.
Like when you do originals, it's yours.
It's different.
You don't have to recreate something someone else has done.
It's like, no, this is mine.
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And if we groove on it, then fuck you.
It's a different feeling.
It's a different feeling as a musician to play and enjoy your own music as opposed to
playing and enjoying someone else's written music, which is still fun.
Oh yeah, definitely.
Not as fun.
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But yeah, no, that's my stuff.
Yeah, like I said, we played gigs in Maribor, Harvey Bay, Childers, Brisbane, like this
fucking great fun, great experience.
Absolutely enjoyed it.
Would love to be in another fucking band again because my vocals are a fuck ton better than
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when we recorded that Iron Wizard album.
Like they have magnitudes better now.
I miss it.
I miss being in a band.
It'd be hard like joining a dumber band because you don't have that same chemistry, I guess,
like, you know, it was all mates.
Yeah.
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It is a tricky thing.
I mean, I've only been a part of two bands.
Bands, you know, this one's been the best and the longest.
Been with them for almost four years.
So, hmm.
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Yeah, no, it's good fun.
It is a lot of work.
It's a lot of fucking work, a lot of hard work.
Tiresome, but no, it's good.
Anyways, we have another gig.
Did I say we got another gig?
No, in Toowoomba now again.
Hmm.
Except this time it's with our actual band, not just playing as a session musician.
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29th of November.
No, I'm actually excited.
It was a really good venue.
It was really cool.
Next week, next week we got something different.
Yeah.
Hmm.
Something we've never done before.
Where?
Yeah.
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Yeah, nothing but.
Yeah, yeah, that's it.
You're gonna get 60 minutes of music.
We're gonna do our top 10 songs of 2024.
Is that what we decided on?
We're gonna have a fight over this?
I don't care.
Like if you want to do top 10 songs.
Hmm.
Well, we agree on a lot of things, most things.
I think we'd be able to agree on a top 10 for 2024.
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No, I want my own top 10 and you can have your own top 10 because I'm not agreeing with
your fucking top 10.
I already know I'm not agreeing with your top 10.
We're gonna be here for hours.
We'll have to do five each.
Top five.
Yeah, but my top five is the top five and then you get six, seven, eight, nine, ten.
No, that's well done.
Anyway, so we're gonna have that for you next week.
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And so yeah, that'll be exciting.
Hmm.
Yes.
You're pretty keen.
Yes, I'm pretty good.
Hmm.
Hmm.
Cool.
All right.
Thanks for listening.
Thanks for watching as always.
We still don't know why you do.
But we're grateful.
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And yeah, see you next week.
It's okay to not be okay.
It's not weak to speak.
Bye.
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What's going on everyone?
Welcome to this week's episode of the Pain in Our Head podcast.
Hey howdy.
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This week, we're talking about holidays.
Yeah.
Hmm, your idea.
You had a good idea.
Yeah, it was kind of a fucking a two part idea like, yeah it's a good idea and also
it's a fucking bit of a shit stir as well because people get so butt heard about Christmas
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celebrations and like decorations and shit coming out early.
Oh yeah.
It's me.
And I'm like, well it's not even quite November yet so let's talk about Christmas.
Let's turn it down.
As you work, we just got special Christmas bags.
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I saw them today.
Yes it usually does start late October.
It's getting earlier and earlier.
We used to wait until like Halloween was done but now I'm seeing stuff come through in September.
Yeah, holiday season.
Hmm.
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Holidays, but yeah.
Christmas is the big one.
That's definitely the biggest one.
It's big for us over here because it's, that's our end of the year.
That's where we have like the most time off.
Whereas it's different like say over in the States where they're biggest time off and
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yeah they've got Thanksgiving and then spring break.
So they call it over there.
That's where they have their biggest time off.
But still a really big holiday all over the world, Christmas.
Do you like Christmas?
No.
I'm a Grinch.
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I don't mind it.
The kids getting excited about it but like personally I'm just like, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, enjoyed it as a kid.
It is good for the young ones I think.
They get excited and I can imagine like for yourself seeing them happy is pretty fucking
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cool.
So yeah, yeah.
I always get stressed.
I'm getting so much to talk about when it comes to mental health and Christmas because
the first thing that pops into my head is like, how the fuck am I going to buy all these
presents for everybody and am I going to have enough money?
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Anyway, I'm getting ahead of myself but yes, that's exactly where my mind goes when we
think about holiday and Christmas and time off and yeah.
So that's why we're doing this episode.
Yeah, yeah.
Pretty much.
How's your week been?
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Busy.
Yep, yep.
Yeah, yeah.
I wore yogurt.
Yes.
I wore yogurt yesterday.
That was fun.
A bit of man yogurt.
Yeah, yep.
Yep.
All down one side of my leg.
So that was good.
Yeah, it's hot.
Yeah.
It wasn't even just like straight yogurt either.
It's one with a little bit of fruit in it.
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So I had like chunks of mango like just everywhere.
Should have just taken your pants off and licked them clean.
I just done the rest of my delivery.
I just passed a coles truck and Kayliss was like.
Hanging my pants out the window trying to dry them off.
Yeah.
I reckon someone would call up about that.
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Yep.
Even if like you told me about it, I would ring your store.
Top in.
Where you calling from?
South Australia.
I know he's doing it.
Yeah.
That's it.
True friends.
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But what about your week?
How's your week been?
Yep.
It's all right.
It's been a week.
There's been days at end in why.
I love that.
I used to love that ad.
Yellow cab.
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Yeah.
I've got nothing to report in really.
It's just been a week.
I guess I had a shorter day yesterday, which put me in a good mood today.
So you got just bombed with voice notes and singing videos.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
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Yeah.
Got me on a singing today.
Which normally wouldn't do on a Tuesday.
I don't think.
That's good.
Enjoyed it.
Yep.
We started a playlist for when Caleb comes to visit.
All the songs we're going to sing together.
I feel sorry for everyone on my Snapchat list.
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It's just going to be constant fucking videos of us fucking singing together.
Yeah.
The drive is not going to be long enough.
It's going to go so quick.
Yeah.
We're up to like over three hours in the playlist and it's like a 40 minute drive to get back
to where I am.
Yeah.
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Yeah.
About 50 minutes from the airport.
If you're, this is a question for you.
If you're enjoying a song, really enjoying a song and you're only halfway through it
and you're about to pull like into your driveway or into work or wherever you're going, do
you do another lap around the block to finish the song before you?
No, I pull up and let everyone else enjoy it.
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Well, yeah, that too.
Sometimes I'm turning down for no one.
But sometimes I, yeah, no, I used to do another lap around the block so I could finish the
song and then I'd pull into the driveway and get out.
Yeah.
It depended on the situation.
Like if I was doing like a night shift or something and I was rolling in at like six
o'clock in the morning, then yes, I would definitely like, you know, go past my street
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and be like do do do do do do do do and quietly turn the radio down and pull in.
I've been listening to technical death metal at six o'clock in the morning at fucking max
volume.
It's the only way.
Yeah.
It pumps you up in the morning.
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Yeah, I don't listen to music on the drive to work.
I listen to my audio book.
No, really?
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's a little bit easier to just tune in and just be like, yeah, sick.
I'm listening to a story.
I'm just cruising along to work.
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Then once I get to work, I'm usually like, all right, now I need to wake up and get going.
Let's fucking work.
I'm listening to music.
Nice.
I pump it.
I pump it.
As soon as I get out of the driveway.
Hmm.
It's good.
Hmm.
Got any good things that you like about Christmas or holidays?
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Other than time off.
But see, that's the other thing.
I'm casual.
I don't want the fucking time off.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's exactly right.
I mean, we go all through Christmas and all that sort of stuff.
We used to do, I think we were open Christmas day.
Pretty sure Coles is open fucking Christmas day.
No, we're closed.
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It's the only one out of like three days that we close.
It's Christmas day, Good Friday, and there's one other.
Yes.
Yes.
They're the three days.
Yep.
Hmm.
Yes.
Uh, I love that tattoo.
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One on your hand.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The microphone.
It's like, sit down.
Fuck that sick.
Oh yeah, that's right.
I've got a tattoo there.
Dude, I forget about my tattoos all the time.
Well, I mean, they're in a spot that you don't look at every all the time.
Yeah.
People are like, what's on your neck?
And I'm like, try to look.
Like which side like one's cool and one's not like the not cool ones.
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Fucking shit.
Have you ever seen it?
I've seen both of them.
I'm pretty sure I got that one.
Yeah.
No, I've seen that one.
Yeah.
That's a stinker.
I need to get that covered up.
How would you cover up that writing?
The big fucking black.
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Just black it out.
That whole side of my neck is fucking black.
Hmm.
It's fucking, it says only the weak die young.
Yeah.
I mean, it's not terrible.
Not terrible, but it's also not good.
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I've seen worse.
Hmm.
Much worse.
Yeah.
It's still pretty fucking edgy.
Hmm.
One of the chicks was dating a drummer.
She was, she got real butt hurt over that when I got it done.
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I said like ex fiance had like.
Hmm.
Right.
Yeah.
So she was like, well, at the time I was a piece of shit.
So I was like, well, only the weak die young.
And that was like.
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It was insane.
I was like, you're about to get a drumstick to the eye.
Like that, like that video I saw the other day.
I almost did that to myself today.
With what?
I had my pen in my hand and I was like doing something and I like,
if I could poke myself in the eye, but I had my glasses on.
I was just like, ooh, that's not close.
And I saw that, I saw that you had your pen in your hand when you sent me a
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singing video.
Hmm.
And the first thing I thought of was like, yeah, the drumstick like
flying up hit the guy in the eye.
I've always got my pen in my hand and I like, I balance it between my fingers.
And like, like if this was the joystick for the, for the loader,
it's got like, you hold it like that.
There's like a thumb switch for forward and backwards.
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And then there's also a tilt, a rollout for the bucket.
And like I sit there and I just like bounce the, the, the, um,
the pen on the toggle so that it like does like that all kind of gravity
blasts.
I was like, yeah.
No, it's amazing.
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Good.
Yeah.
I don't know if something good about Christmas.
It's like, I guess as I've gotten older, it's like,
it's a chance to get together with family, but like when Christmas for my family,
generally is a shitter of a time.
Hmm.
Like just all the emotions start to blow up between everybody.
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And it's like, right.
Christmas is canceled.
I don't want anyone coming over.
And then it's like, okay, everyone has to be here.
And then all of a sudden Christmas is canceled.
And it's like, I hate you.
You hate them.
It's just like, Holy shit.
Like, I just want to get together with granddad.
I can talk a bit of shit, listen to his stories, have a feed,
and then fuck off to see my friends so I can get on the piss.
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Cause that's the other, that's the thing I like about Christmas.
Sorry.
Dutchmas.
Oh, you've mentioned this before.
Yeah.
You get this with your mates.
Yeah.
So me and the guys back in Queensland, we've got this tradition of Dutchmas.
So Arnold Schwarzenegger's character in Predator is Dutch.
Like his name is Dutch.
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So we would get together and watch the Predator.
And that's why it's called Dutchmas.
And that was our Christmas celebration.
We'd all get together, take our shirts off.
And every time something manly happened during the movie,
you had to yell out manly and take a drink from your beer.
Mm-hmm.
And one Dutchmas, I went through a whole carton of beers during the Predator.
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Like an hour and a half movie.
Yeah.
And then I proceeded to a Naruto run to the fucking Domino's like two blocks away.
I full on Naruto ran too cause I was so drunk that I was convinced
that it was a better way of running.
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Well, so here's me pissed as a nit with my arms and,
Niiiiiit!
And then I ended up at my sister's house cause she lived around the corner
and she wasn't even home but her husband was.
And I was just pissed as a nit and he was trying to play Xbox
and I was just talking absolute dog shit.
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Nice.
Yeah.
So that's what I enjoy about Christmas is Dutchmas.
Dutchmas.
Sounds pretty good.
Mm.
Mm.
Yeah, I've had a few Christmases.
Yeah.
Mm.
Yeah.
I remember one year I got sick of all the drama
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and I decided not to stuff it, I'm staying home this year.
So I stayed at home all day, didn't go anywhere, didn't talk to anyone.
It's pretty good.
It's terrible, hey?
No, sometimes that's the thing, you get so overwhelmed by meeting up
with friends and family and going out and doing all those Christmas things,
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all those holiday things that you do, it becomes overwhelming.
There's got to be a good segway into the whole topic,
there's a lot of expectation around, sorry, a lot of expectation around Christmastime.
People expect that it's all about spending time with friends and family
and swapping gifts and having these big extravagant feasts that everyone gets together
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or depending on how you were raised or your family background,
it might be completely different, it might be expected that everyone gets together
and gets on the pierce or there's a lot of expectations around
how you're meant to celebrate it and at the end of the day,
it's how you want to fucking celebrate it.
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Fuck tradition.
It's not up to other people to dictate how you choose to celebrate things.
A lot of people have scoffed at Dutchmas because what's it got to do with Christmas?
Well, nothing, because none of us care about Christmas.
It's just an excuse for us to get together and celebrate friendship and manliness.
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Yeah, that's a really good thing about it, about having the time off
and being able to get together with the people that you enjoy the company of
and that helps you feel good.
It's a great thing for your mental health.
We also do Rambista.
Rambista.
Ramboadista.
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That's good.
I like that.
Rambista and Dutchmas.
Rambista.
Same shit, we just watch Rambo and get really drunk.
I remember.
Do you die and resurrect a few days later?
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I fucking did.
I did.
Here's the story.
When I went back to Queensland last time, it was around the Christmas time.
It was for Christmas actually, yeah it was, it was at Christmas.
I was in a really fucking bad place.
I'd done some stupid shit.
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Fuck off, fine.
She just yeeted across the room.
Fuck off!
Anyway, so I was in Queensland and we did Dutchmas.
And I had organised a hotel room, because I was staying with my mate
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and a really close friend of mine, we'd been flirting and it was like,
oh, we'll get a hotel room and just hang out, if something happens, something happens.
I wrote myself off, I became a meme for the second fucking time.
There's pictures of me, like there's the one where I'm like passed out in the gutter
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with the vomit, that was photoshopped into different positions and all this sort of shit.
Then there's another one where I'm like passed out on this couch, shirt off, gut hanging out.
Like, I'd shaved my head, I had like a full Britney meltdown, I'd shaved my head.
And I'm just like sprawled out on the couch like this, fucking gut hanging out, cobbloaf on my gut.
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Like, I was fucked, I was a mess.
And this chick showed up and I was already written off.
She was so pissed, because she was like really keen.
I was really keen, but I wasn't expecting anything.
And she shows up and like I'm just blackout drunk.
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And I fucking resurrect, I pulled that shit together.
I got my shit together and slayed it like a champion that night.
Fucking proud of myself.
I had no right to even be like functioning as a basic human after how fucking drunk I was.
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Wouldn't be the last time you disappointed someone.
I didn't disappoint, I came through many times.
Nice, very nice.
Oh nice, I like that.
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Just on that, that's right, you don't have to do what you're told.
You don't have to conform to what the usual is.
Make your own Christmas celebration.
Is that like if it means sitting at home, fuck it.
Yeah, even a few years ago I blew a family, and Taylor and I did.
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That's a perfectly fine saying.
A family.
Blew off.
Yeah, we went to just a friend's Christmas instead, one year.
That was really good.
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Well, that's the other thing too, like as your family starts to grow in that, especially if you've all grown up in the same area,
people start to split off.
So for me growing up, it was always, wake up in the morning at home, do some presents there, go to grandma and granddad's, do more presents there, have breakfast,
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recover until like 10 in the morning, and then you'd go to Nan and Pops and do Christmas there and have Christmas lunch with them, and then you'd go home and try not to fucking die from the food coma.
And then you'd sometimes go back to grandma and granddad's for like dinner.
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And then as we got older and like relationships started to show up and it was like, okay, cool. It's like, well, let's do like a big breakfast at this house, and then like go your separate ways.
Because it's like, then I've got to go see my girlfriend's parents for their Christmas day, and it's like, and yeah, sisters, partners, and fuck all that shit.
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And it's like, it just, it starts to become a fucking mess.
Like it's what does it, you spend most of your day driving around. Yeah. Who wants to do that?
If you got my playlist, me. Fucking drive around all day.
So yeah, so say no, if you need to. Exactly. It's okay to say no.
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But yeah, just the thing. You're very popular. No, no, that's Bring Me Into Horizon song.
Oh, yes. I was going rabid. Shut the fuck up. Doing my head in.
That's my favorite part of that song. It's a good song too.
I heard, I like, damn it, I listened to it today. Forgotten it. Kingslayer. Yeah, no, Kingslayer is a good one, but I really like, damn it.
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I can't remember for the life of me. Cool Aid off a new one. I don't know. It's not Cool Aid. I do like Cool Aid, but no, it's an older one, I think.
Drown. Nah. Drone. Nah. Ludens. Nah.
Areside Eve. That is a good song. I really like that song. But it's not, it wasn't that, not the one I was thinking of.
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Oh well, doesn't matter. They've got heaps of good music. San Paternal. No.
When that song first came out, I was just like, what's this? This is a new Bring Me Into Horizon song. And I was just like, yeah. It's a fucking good song.
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Yeah. So I guess that was leading into, yeah, feeling anxious, stress, feeling anxiety around having to, you know, buy presents, bring presents, make everyone happy. That's something that I don't like.
You know, you're trying to be the person that makes everyone happy. And then sometimes you become like, no one's looking out for you.
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So look out for yourself first, especially in these holiday periods, because if you're not okay, it's going to translate.
And you are very popular today.
Depending on how, like you said before, some, you know, it could be customary.
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Jeez, I've muffed that. I did? Yeah, customary. It could be customary to drink or whatever it is at family celebrations and things like that.
Maybe that doesn't work. Maybe you end up lying on a couch with a cobalove on your gut.
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Find those pictures and send them to you. Yeah, I'd love to see them. I'm going to take a photo of one of them into the paint me like you're French women from Titanic.
She's like naked on the chair. They replaced it with me.
I clip those. If you do find it, I'm going to put it in the video. Just for the quarter. Yeah. If you're only listening on Spotify.
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I think it was the fall asleep one. Actually, there was two pictures. There was one where I'm like fucking full, like chucking and spread.
There's another one where I'm like all cuddled up using my hands as a pillow. Oh, that's great. I was fucked.
I sound like a major piss head, but I don't drink. That's why I get so fucking drunk when I do. Yeah. Well, that's what happens to me.
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So if you know that, try and stay away from the drink. That's always good. Drugs and alcohol and all that sort of rattle rattle rattle.
But no, I don't. I go hard at Christmas. And then regret it for the next week. Yeah. I also put on like five kilos.
Yep. And then I started early this year. What's your favorite? What's your food traditions?
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What do you enjoy eating? A bit of Christmas food.
I hate that. It gives me so much creative. I hate it so much. Damn it. I can't believe I went there. I can't stand that skip.
A little bit of pot and a little bit of custard. Never too much custard.
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I don't know why you hate it. It's amazing. No, it just doesn't work for me. It makes me cringe.
This is the best. I don't know. My favorite food for Christmas.
It would probably just be all the desserts. We used to do a massive Christmas Eve. Christmas Eve is the night before, isn't it?
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So we used to do a massive Christmas Eve barbecue party with all the family and shit.
It was just a massive barbecue and then just a shit ton of desserts like custard tarts, cheesecakes, jelly slides, fucking everything.
And so you just smash down your fucking barbecue and then it was just like, yeah, we fucking.
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And the barbecue was always good too. Anyway, it was just like, you'd just be fucked.
And then you had dessert to come out. And then it's like the same thing with like, it was always pancakes for breakfast, Christmas Day.
I fucking love pancakes. And then lunch would be the same thing at Nana and Pop's.
It was always Nana would cook like this massive fucking silverside for lunch.
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And then after the silverside, it was always like, you know, jelly, ice cream, custard, fucking everything.
I smashed myself stupid desserts. Just a little bit more, just a little bit more.
And then before you know it, you're rolling on the floor, trying the tummy ache.
Yeah, that's cool. Yeah, I just, yeah, I really like the, we usually do a lot of roast meats.
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But I like all of them, all of them. Yeah, but ham, roast potatoes.
Fucking ham. Ham. Yeah, ham. Ham off the bone. Yeah.
The ham gets me the most. Yeah, I fucking love me some ham. Oh yeah.
I roll up, I'm like, yeah, a few veggies. How fucking good, how fucking good is ham and mashed potato?
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You get a bit of mashed potato, you put the nice hot mashed potato in your cold slice of ham and you're like...
That's it, because I'd grab a little bit of veggies and then a fuckload of potatoes.
And then I'd be like, yeah, a little bit of beef, a little bit of turkey, maybe a little bit of chicken.
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And then I'd get the ham and I'd get an extra plate. That's how much room I needed for the ham that I was grabbing.
And that was it. That'd be my two plate. Yeah.
And gravy. Oh yeah, fucking love me some gravy. I just drink it. I don't even have to have it with anything.
Dad's a big fucking sucker for that white sauce to go with your silverside. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
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That creamy cheesy sauce. Whatever the fuck it is. Yeah.
He's having a silverside, that's what he's got to fucking have. Yeah, okay.
Nice. Making me hungry. Yeah, me too.
One thing I do like about Christmas, it can be bad actually, that social media use.
On holidays, Christmas time, all that sort of stuff.
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I like it because me personally, I put my phone away for the day usually.
Especially if I'm with friends or with family, I usually just don't even bother.
I'll leave my phone in the other room. I like that. It's nice to not watch on.
Lots of people put stuff all over social media.
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We've talked about the fear of missing out and the fear of finding out and rada, rada, rada.
I try and leave it alone.
But it is good though for long distance catching up with people.
Especially if you can't see people in person during those holidays.
It's great. Social media is really good for that.
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Just for your mental health, there's a balance.
I hit a sore spot. No.
What?
I can't.
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I wasn't even trying to make you cry.
Just fuck you. It reminded me fucking this last Christmas.
I had to go stay at someone else's house because where I live was full of Shaz's family.
I wanted to go stay by myself over Christmas.
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I was stuck down here in South Australia.
I didn't get to see my friends or family for Christmas.
Christmas Day for me was just sitting there twiddling my thumbs going,
Cool, anyone want to come online and play computer with me?
I'm not trying to guilt you.
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There's a really good example.
Christmas can be really fucking hard for some people.
This Christmas that we just passed, that was a really fucking hard one for me.
I was in a really dark place.
It's like a bittersweet as well.
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Your family messages you and tries to call you to check on you.
But then it also reminds you that you're not there with them.
You're all alone.
Cool, thanks for checking in.
I appreciate it, but at the same time it's just a really fucking horrible reminder.
I'll have a good present ready for you on Christmas Day this year.
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I've already got it planned.
I'll FaceTime you.
Except you won't see my face.
It's going to be a fucking close up of you nuts.
Merry Christmas, you filthy animal.
On the second day of Christmas, Caleb gave to me two nuts a hanging.
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I enjoy Christmas music, which I'm going to talk about.
Fuck Christmas music.
I don't like it, but there's some good ones out there.
I thought about it today.
I got no fucking Christmas songs that I like listening to.
It's a few, so I'll talk about them.
Christmas movies.
Predator.
A lot of movies.
I was going to say Die Hard.
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Die Hard, yeah.
Christmas movie.
Lethal Weapon.
Christmas movie.
So I watch those.
Bread One.
Bread One.
That's got to be soon, right?
Is that this Thursday?
I reckon it might be this Thursday.
Dad said.
I'm excited for this one.
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7th of November.
So that'll be the week when you show up because you show up on the 9th.
Yeah, excited for that.
That'll be cool.
Maybe I'll see if it's out of the movies.
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We could go on a movie date together and watch it.
Oh, that's cute.
I'll be sure to bring my flip flops.
Fuck off.
You take your shoes off in the fucking cinema and I'm going to break each of your toes.
I'll get a seat just behind you as well.
No.
No.
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Oh, gosh.
Anyway, moral of the story is to just beware around holiday times and be
aware of friends and family and just think about things you can do to stop those
stresses and stop your mental health from spiralling out of control.
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It is a terrible time or can be a terrible time of the year as you've mentioned for many
different reasons.
You may be away from family and things like that and, you know, there's lots of
different things to make those holiday periods really, really tricky.
So check in with people as we're coming into it now because we're really only just
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over two months away now.
So it's really not that far away.
It's amazing how quickly it goes.
So that's my main takeaway from it.
Good topic.
It really is.
It's such a horrible, horrible thing for our mental health sometimes if we let it.
I think like the day itself generally ends up good.
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It's always that build up to it.
It's the lead up to Christmas where everyone starts to stress.
It's like, am I going to have the money?
Like, am I going to have the time?
Like, is everyone going to get along?
Like, is everyone going to enjoy the presents?
Are we going to have enough first?
It's chill the fuck out.
No one cares.
Just show up, hang out, fuck off.
Yep.
Eat the food.
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Piss off.
All right.
We're going to have a quick break.
We'll be back in just a moment.
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Welcome back to this week's episode of the Pain in Our Head podcast.
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We've been chatting about holidays and how it can fuck with your mental health.
And all of that.
It's been good.
It's a good topic.
Really good topic.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So.
Hmm.
Hmm.
Hmm.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
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Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
All right.
So, music wise, I haven't really been listening to anything new.
No.
Been listening to a lot of different stuff though.
I've been listening to I Prevail.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Look.
Yeah.
That's.
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Yeah.
Yeah.
They've popped up.
Popped up for me.
Listen to a few songs.
I've been listening to more of the Amity Affliction.
Yep.
Yep.
Yeah.
Yep.
I do enjoy a lot of their stuff, to be honest.
Soak me in bleach.
I really enjoy that one.
I've been enjoying that this week.
Or over the past week.
Hmm.
But yes.
Yes.
Yes.
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Yes.
But one thing in Christmas music.
Hey.
Amity is Australian, aren't they?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think they're from.
I think they're the ones that were from Gimpie.
Really?
Yeah.
I'm pretty sure.
Well, the lead singer.
I think he's definitely from Gimpie, I'm pretty sure.
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And I think a long time ago they did some concert, big concert up there.
After that sort of got pretty big.
No, they are from Gimpie.
The Amity Affliction is Australian post hardcore band from Gimpie, 2003.
Hmm.
Yep.
There you go.
Hmm.
Yeah.
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Crazy.
Not a lot of things come out of Gimpie.
They would be probably the one and only.
Sorry for anyone who's from Gimpie.
I'm going to get some hate mail.
Man, they can't type.
Fucking inbreds.
For anyone who's listening, go, what the fuck is Gimpie?
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Gimpie's a hole.
Yeah, that's it.
It's like when you grow up in Brisbane, Gimpie is referred to as the hole.
And that's all it's known as.
Actually for the longest time I thought it was just like a big hole and a few people
like lived on the outskirts.
It's a fucking bomb crater.
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That's what I had in my head.
It's like fall out.
Gimpie.
Actually, you know what?
There is another good thing about Gimpie, the McDonald's on the Bruce Highway.
Best Maccas I've ever had.
Yeah, I tend to stop when I used to live there.
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I'm not there.
When I used to live in Queensland, I used to stop at Gimpie.
Yeah.
Just, usually you get Maccas and it looks nothing like the photos and shit.
And that's what you expect.
Now, I've been there a couple of times and every time I've been there, it comes out picture
perfect and just tastes amazing and it's fresh and hot.
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And I just couldn't believe it.
So if you're in Brisbane or you're around the area in Queensland, stop at the Gimpie
Maccas.
If it's shit, I'm sorry.
Welcome to Gimpie.
That's right.
Locky car.
Seriously.
Yeah.
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Seriously, locky car.
Apparently, they're bypassing Gimpie now.
Yeah.
I don't know if it's finished.
They finished building that.
But yeah, the plan is for it to go completely around it.
Yeah, the Bruce Highway, the main highway in Queensland used to go straight through
Gimpie, but now they can bypass it.
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So it's going to be an even bigger hole.
Which is sad though.
Yeah, like all jokes aside, it's actually fucking shit for Gimpie.
It is.
A lot of people would say that's kind of a good middle spot to pull up, fuel up, whatever
you need to do, pull over.
Yeah, I used to fuel up when I...
Because I used to have the Ninja 636 and that had been my stop usually.
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On the way down to Brisbane, I knew I could make it to Gimpie and I'd fuel up there.
Or when I'd leave Brisbane, I'd fuel up in Gimpie and I knew I could make it home.
Yeah.
Yep.
Unless I was screaming.
Then I'd have to stop at Maribor and turn off.
Oh yeah, it's there.
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Oh, I've got...
Maribor is even worse.
I should add North Maribor, we used to have a lot of gigs there.
Oh yeah, yeah yeah.
We got stuck there a few years back now because of the floods.
We couldn't go any further, coming back to Brisbane, that was as far as we could get
to.
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We'd driven from Bundaberg down and taken all day just because of how fucked and the
way we had to go.
We thought we had booked a motel for that night.
We'd actually booked it for the next night and they had no rooms, no air rooms.
We had to turn around, drive all the way back to Bundaberg to stay there.
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I wouldn't have slept in my car.
Yeah, we thought about it but...
Maribor.
Maribor.
Enough said.
So, anyway.
Christmas music, I'm not a fan of Christmas music at the best of times.
I hate hearing it over the radio in shopping centres.
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It's beginning to look like Christmas.
Yeah yeah.
Fuck off, no it's not.
There's a few artists that defrost around this time of the year and get ready for Christmas.
Anyway...
Gary, you bitch.
I've got nothing against him.
Yeah, anyway.
It's very popular.
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Very fucking popular.
Well done.
The only good thing to come out of Michael Buble is a Russian unicorn.
What?
You know the song I'm talking about, right?
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I know what you're thinking about, but fuck you and your unicorn.
That Russian unicorn from Bad Lip Reading is amazing.
It's pretty good.
It's alright.
Anyway, continue.
Tell me your story about your Christmas.
Yeah, so exciting.
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I like a couple.
I like Hark the Herald.
I think it's a good song.
I would have thought you'd like Little Drummer Boy.
I did.
Yeah I do.
Christmas comes around and Caleb's there in his drum kit.
Come and he told me.
I do like the ones that they do with Family Guy.
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Have you heard those ones?
Yeah.
I brought these gifts for you.
They're up in my bum.
I'll have to send it to you.
There's a whole skit on Peter singing Christmas carols.
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It's ludicrous.
Anyway, yeah.
But no, Hark the Herald and a lot of people have done covers of it, obviously.
Pentatonix have done one.
Oh yeah.
That's an interesting one.
Yeah, they do it pretty well.
Pentatonix are pretty fucking cool.
Yeah they are.
They're very cool.
I went through a stage where I was obsessed with acapella.
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Yes.
I still like acapella.
Yeah.
I think it's incredible what they can do with their voices.
Just amazing.
Like Van Canto.
They're fucking amazing.
They're a metal band.
Yeah.
Insane.
So that's a good one.
I am biased towards these two, but a good friend and musician, artist AMP, he released
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a cover of Hark the Herald and Oh Holy Night.
And I drum on those tracks.
So pretty cool.
I saw that fly go past.
Excuse me.
Yeah.
So I really like Oh Holy Night.
I like what we did on that track.
It's some of my favorite, some of the good drumming I've done.
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I did it a while ago.
I'm definitely better now than I was then, but I did enjoy what I did for that track.
So that was cool.
Yeah.
That's my story.
Go have a listen.
I wasn't talking to you.
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I listened to you stand tall.
Oh yeah.
I've got that on my iTunes list.
Yeah, that's not too bad.
Yeah.
He's got another one that hasn't been released that I've drummed on.
And that's really, really good.
I don't know if he's going to release it though.
So anyway, I digress.
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My turn?
Yeah.
If you want.
I'm just going to do a shameless self plug because I don't think I've fucking really
spoken that much about it.
Oh yeah.
Go for it.
Iron Wizard.
Iron Wizard.
I love them guys.
Their lead singer is a legend.
That's all right.
I'm going to be.
I was in a band for years.
Got Blue Wallet tanks.
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Back in Queensland.
It started off as a cover band for Sabaton.
I sent singing to my two best mates and was like, I think I sound okay.
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And Tomo was like, we should start a fuck a band.
I was like, okay.
So we started doing Sabaton covers in his backyard, in his shed.
And then one day he was like, I wrote a song.
I was like, cool.
What is it?
He's like, it's pretty heavy.
I was like, okay, I guess I'll try to do metal vocals then.
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And then it just blew up from there.
We wrote a whole fucking album.
Actually, the original song that he wrote never made it to the album and that was like
a fan favorite.
Because it was just so different to the rest of the stuff we had for the album.
It just didn't fit.
We should have released it as like a bonus track, maybe.
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Maybe we'll re-release it.
It's on SoundCloud, isn't it?
Because that's where I listen to it, I'm pretty sure.
You sent me a link to the SoundCloud, I thought.
Maybe.
I think I did send you a link to, I think it was Tomo's.
I think it was Tomo's SoundCloud and he had a couple of our early, early stuff up there.
Okay.
But yeah, so we released an album, a Scatternaught and it's on like YouTube, Spotify, iTunes
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and I do all the vocals for it.
Probably my two favorite tracks would be Ashburner and Eros Denatos.
They're my two favorite tracks off the album.
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Eros Denatos is the only track on the album that's got some clean singing for about 30
seconds.
Ashburner was just a fucking fun song.
I really grooved on that shit and got really excited when it was time to play that song.
It was fucking great fun.
Band practice was a great excuse to get together with the guys and talk a lot of shit and pretend
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to play music.
As you could imagine.
I don't know how well you get along with your bandmates, but our band practices were like
60% fucking shit talk and then 15% setup and the rest was actual playing of instruments.
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Yeah.
It used to be when we were doing our originals and then since moved to covers, it's been
a little bit more go, go, go.
We've got this much time to rehearse, stop dicking around, let's get this done sort of
thing.
But definitely when we were doing originals, yeah, it was just a lot of shit talk.
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Yeah.
I think it's just different.
Like when you do originals, it's yours.
It's different.
You don't have to recreate something someone else has done.
It's like, no, this is mine.
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And if we groove on it, then fuck you.
It's a different feeling.
It's a different feeling as a musician to play and enjoy your own music as opposed to
playing and enjoying someone else's written music, which is still fun.
Oh yeah, definitely.
Not as fun.
(50:05):
But yeah, no, that's my stuff.
Yeah, like I said, we played gigs in Maribor, Harvey Bay, Childers, Brisbane, like this
fucking great fun, great experience.
Absolutely enjoyed it.
Would love to be in another fucking band again because my vocals are a fuck ton better than
(50:26):
when we recorded that Iron Wizard album.
Like they have magnitudes better now.
I miss it.
I miss being in a band.
It'd be hard like joining a dumber band because you don't have that same chemistry, I guess,
like, you know, it was all mates.
Yeah.
(50:46):
It is a tricky thing.
I mean, I've only been a part of two bands.
Bands, you know, this one's been the best and the longest.
Been with them for almost four years.
So, hmm.
(51:07):
Yeah, no, it's good fun.
It is a lot of work.
It's a lot of fucking work, a lot of hard work.
Tiresome, but no, it's good.
Anyways, we have another gig.
Did I say we got another gig?
No, in Toowoomba now again.
Hmm.
Except this time it's with our actual band, not just playing as a session musician.
(51:32):
29th of November.
No, I'm actually excited.
It was a really good venue.
It was really cool.
Next week, next week we got something different.
Yeah.
Hmm.
Something we've never done before.
Where?
Yeah.
(51:53):
Yeah, nothing but.
Yeah, yeah, that's it.
You're gonna get 60 minutes of music.
We're gonna do our top 10 songs of 2024.
Is that what we decided on?
We're gonna have a fight over this?
I don't care.
Like if you want to do top 10 songs.
Hmm.
Well, we agree on a lot of things, most things.
I think we'd be able to agree on a top 10 for 2024.
(52:19):
No, I want my own top 10 and you can have your own top 10 because I'm not agreeing with
your fucking top 10.
I already know I'm not agreeing with your top 10.
We're gonna be here for hours.
We'll have to do five each.
Top five.
Yeah, but my top five is the top five and then you get six, seven, eight, nine, ten.
No, that's well done.
Anyway, so we're gonna have that for you next week.
(52:42):
And so yeah, that'll be exciting.
Hmm.
Yes.
You're pretty keen.
Yes, I'm pretty good.
Hmm.
Hmm.
Cool.
All right.
Thanks for listening.
Thanks for watching as always.
We still don't know why you do.
But we're grateful.
(53:03):
And yeah, see you next week.
It's okay to not be okay.
It's not weak to speak.
Bye.
Have a wonderful day, everyone.
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