October 20, 2024 • 58 mins
Let's talk about sex baby! This week on the Pain In Our Head Podcast, Caleb & Christian discuss the impact and correlation of sexual health and mental health. Listen in as they attempt to avoid sexual innuendoes and music of a sexual nature...it didn't work.
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Hello what's going on everyone?
Welcome to this week's episode of the Pain in Our Nips podcast, ah Pain in Our Head podcast.
As if you start the episode like this.
The Pain in Our Head podcast, what did I say?
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It's been a long week.
I'm excited for this week's episode.
How are you Christian?
Fuck you.
Yeah.
Fuck you.
I fucking, I told you I was feeling self-conscious about wearing this and you were like no it's
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good man.
Giggle, giggle, giggle.
What's he do?
Fucking boom straight into the jokes.
That was a great line.
Yeah it was so accidental too wasn't it?
Yeah.
Whoops.
It was a bit of a slip up.
Caleb knew that I owned this top.
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I bought this ages ago and we came up with the idea let's talk about sex.
Let's talk about sex baby.
Fucking yeah anyway.
And I was like yeah that's a fucking sick topic let's do it.
And he's like this morning he's like you should wear your fishnet top for recording and I
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was like maybe whatever that's fine.
So I bought it before.
Yeah but I had a top on over it.
I felt very self-conscious about it and he's picking on me already.
Like 30 seconds in.
Negatively affecting my mental health in a mental health podcast.
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What an irony.
I'm good Caleb thank you.
It's good.
Good to hear.
How are you asshole?
Yeah good.
Naked as always.
Yeah fucking hell.
Surprise surprise.
Yeah.
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Nah just same usual stuff.
Video games.
A different day.
Yeah yep yep yep.
Playing lots of different games.
I can't find a game that I'm addicted to at the moment.
It's probably good then.
It's probably good not to get you know talked about not getting addicted to video games.
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But I like being addicted.
You know I like being addicted to something.
I wouldn't say we're addicted to it.
I like having that hangout time in the evening.
I look forward to it and then when we don't have a game that we're particularly interested
in it's like you kind of just sit there like do you want to play this?
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No.
Do you want to play this?
No.
It's like ooh.
You know what I'm talking about.
All the good games or the good hyped games came out early in the year and now it's just
kind of been a very very fast decline towards the end of the year and like what do we do
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now?
Waiting for the next big thing.
Wait uh anyway that's alright.
I don't even know what the next big thing is.
No.
So this is us in our element right doing an episode on uh sexual health and mental health.
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You came up with this one and as soon as you said it I was just like oh yeah.
I don't even know how I came up with it I think you sent me some music.
I did too yeah I sent you that um uh it was this the band that did that porn star dancing
song and I sent you the other casual sex I think it was called.
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Yes yep yeah yeah and then I was just like oh my god there's there's an idea so here
we are.
Sometimes he has good ideas sometimes he's just a fucking idiot it's just a coin flip
really yeah yeah get what you get.
You get what you get and you don't get upset.
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The kids come home saying that one from back there oh really oh really you get what you
get and you don't get upset it's like well fucking you remember that you fucking remember
that learn that lesson well yeah it's a good lesson.
I didn't want barbecue sauce I wanted tomato sauce I'm gonna suck it.
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Same thing.
No it's not.
Yeah that's not the same thing.
You like vinegar on chips?
Yeah yeah on hot chips like hot proper hot potato chips yeah yeah yeah and barbecue sauce
vinegar chicken salt fuck them.
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Yeah chicken salt.
I haven't eaten.
I'm fucking hungry.
And a parmy and chips.
I could do that tonight actually after we record and order a fucking parmy from the
the Macclesfield Hotel where they have won multiple awards for South Australia's best
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chicken schnitzel.
Which is what we're gonna have that when you show up too.
I've already sent you the menu so you need to figure out which one you're gonna have.
Ah yeah yeah yeah there's so many good looking ones on there.
Yeah I think I think I had my mind made up I'll have to look at the menu again but yeah.
I'll get it for you again yeah.
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Mmm yeah yeah.
They're fancy parmys they're not just like normal chicken parmys they do different ones.
Yeah put extra shit on it.
I think I want I think I want the one with the sauerkraut.
I think that's where I was going.
Yeah I think so yeah.
I haven't had that one.
Sounds good.
Bit of mustard.
I love me some mustard.
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When we used to have hot dogs growing up like wouldn't you know you'd do like your hot dog
nights and I was the only one that had mustard.
Yeah same.
No one else wanted mustard.
So it was just like my sisters would literally be a hot dog with tomato sauce.
Yeah.
What about the rest of it like what about onion bacon cheese.
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Right yeah.
Now I'm like sauerkraut.
Yeah.
That's the other thing we'll do too we'll go to Handorf in the German village so we
can get a nice big fucking sauerkraut hot dog.
Yeah I'm looking forward to it.
German sausage.
Yeah we're gonna have so much to chat about when we when I come back and we do another
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episode.
We'll finally relieve all that sexual tension.
Is that what you reckon it is?
Oh yes I will.
I don't get a choice.
Pretty sure it's written down here somewhere.
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One of these documents that we're looking at.
We've got a few different sources relating to yes sexual health and mental health and
how it all ties in together.
A bit of a taboo topic sex isn't it.
People get really uncomfortable about it.
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So here's a warning if you're listening to this and watching this and this topic is something
that makes you feel uncomfortable.
Stop listening.
Stop watching.
Stop watching.
Watch last week's episode instead.
I enjoy being a prude.
No.
That's mean.
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Some people just don't like talking about it and that's fine.
Everyone's different so I'm very fucking open about my sex life I guess.
Can you just ask your poor dad.
Hey dad.
Poor prick.
He'll be like just casually enjoying his day.
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He might have just gotten home from a fucking 14 hour truck drive because he's a truckie
and he's like trying to crawl into bed and he just gets a random message from me.
He's like hey dad guess what I did last night.
He's just like.
When'd I go wrong?
He's like a bit of a legend but at the same time I'm your fucking dad.
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Mental scarring.
Yeah so sexual health.
I think it's important.
Yeah yeah absolutely.
I think it's important to have those discussions.
Yeah you know it starts obviously early on like school and stuff like that because you
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have your sexual education as you would call it.
Your skill.
Did Harold teach you about sex?
No see I actually I don't know whether I was lucky or unlucky.
I missed every single class for some reason.
I don't know if I had like sporting events on at the time.
I just for some reason I cruised through school without having to sit through one class of
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sexual education.
So you never had to put a fucking condom on a banana?
On a banana no.
Never had to do that.
No I missed it all.
I missed all the fun.
So awkward.
Yeah well yeah that's the thing right.
Like you know hormone crazed teenagers.
Or sitting in the same sex room.
Yeah.
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Sex ed's fucking stupid.
It's not stupid but like once you get older you realize that they're just trying to fucking
you know like the whole like I still remember like you know oh yeah you know make sure you
use a condom when you have sex.
It feels it doesn't feel any different to not using one.
You fucking liar, you fucking filthy liar.
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Don't fucking fuck you.
Yeah a bunch of liars.
Yeah.
Anyway we're not condoning unprotected sex by the way.
If you're married or you're in a committed relationship.
Practice safe sex obviously because you don't want STIs or unplanned pregnancies like we
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fucking were.
Because then you end up with people like us.
That's exactly right.
We could be an ad for fucking birth control.
Yeah yeah before you know it we'll be getting sponsored by fucking drugging.
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Yeah the condom ads where like the kids like throwing a tantrum in the fucking supermarket
and it's like it turns out to be an ad for a birth control like for condoms.
It's just like they can just show like a couple of clips from the podcast and be like you
don't use protection.
This is what your kids will turn out like.
This is what happens.
Yeah yeah fuck around and find out.
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Yeah literally.
So sexual health if I can give my words out I'm still laughing.
Refers to physical, mental, emotional, social well-being in relation to one's sexuality.
I let it go and talks about the whole different range of obviously different sexualities.
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And I think the biggest thing that caught my eye is if we're going to talk about this
part first is the the kind of side effects.
No no no but it was a good Photoshop session.
I'm a unicorn Charlie.
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Yeah if anyone ever hears me call Christian a unicorn don't ask.
The yeah just the effects of you know learning about your sexuality and being comfortable
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with your sexuality and all things that come along with that because it can be a quite
it can be quite difficult to navigate you know like.
Well it's a whole fucking can of worms these days.
Yeah it is and you gotta be really careful as well.
You know.
Well like back when I was you know fucking starting to delve into the world of sexuality
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and intercourse and relationships like the norm was male female monogamous relationships
and it's just not the fucking case anymore.
No.
There's so many different styles of like ethical non-monogamy there's polyamory there's fucking
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normal I don't want to say normal now like heterosexual.
And then obviously there's all the different types of sexual it's like you got homosexuals
you know gay people lesbians asexuals demisexuals.
Yeah.
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Like yeah.
Yeah I mean it's from even from when I was younger it's becoming a lot more well I can't
think of the word a lot more known I guess or a lot more understood in terms of like
a topic it's a lot more broadly understood and recognized I think is the word I'm looking
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for.
But I can imagine especially for you know anyone your age even my age growing up if
they weren't a part I guess that heterosexual category there would have been a lot of common
experiences of you know feeling left out feeling different you know probably succumbing to
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homophobic bullying and we did an episode on bullying a few weeks ago we don't I don't
even think we touched on tossing this but that's there that's a it was a whole whole
thing you know feeling pressure feeling worried about being honest and open who you can be
honest and open with and who you can I guess as they say come out to and then you know
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also feeling unsupported as well you know if you're in a quite a you know a family
may not support it those sort of things depending on you know their type values and traditions
and etc etc so it's a lot of issues that come with those experiences.
It was pretty fucking sweet like cute when you came out to me.
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Not yet I'll say how this went.
Yeah well like the day that you told me that you loved Sether and you're obsessed with
him like that was when I knew you were gay.
I thought you were gonna say when I told you I played Rocket League.
No I was gonna say RuneScape.
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Yeah no look yeah very good well done.
Much well.
Get you back for the nipples.
Yes anyway so there's you know a lot of mental health problems that can come from navigating
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your sexuality.
It was like trying to find your people too like it's getting easier there's dating apps
designed for people that aren't you know of the heterosexual persuasion there's ones that
are designed for kinky people and other people like I'm not gonna go and list them all like
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I'm on a few of them but I don't want to see any of you there.
Bless your mams Caleb.
Like yeah you know you won't see me on any of those unfortunately.
But yeah so there's a lot of you know mental health issues that can arise with the navigation
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of this but as you said it is getting a lot better to or easier to find other people within
those categories which is that it's a whole support network that's a big thing because
once you've got some support network around this sort of the topic it doesn't make it
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easier.
I guess it does make it easier it doesn't help it entirely but it does make part of
it easier so you know just and the things obviously look out for you know because if
you are feeling like you know you left out and you can't come out or you can't be open
and honest with anyone you know you've got changes in your mood changes in your behavior
changes in relationship appetite sleep coping changes in your thinking as well like all
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those things and we've spoken about all those things individually.
So basically what I'm getting to from this is those are the sort of things that then
start to push back onto your mental health.
Pun intended.
I didn't know you'd like that one.
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I didn't need to make a comment for that one everyone knows.
So yeah but no those pressures as well like you know issues through like growing up you
know when you become an adult going through school you know you know it's scary going
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to things like you know managing school going to university even you know finding a job
things like that.
Yeah true yeah.
You know.
I wouldn't think of that.
Yeah because there's still a lot of places I'd say out there that are maybe not so woke
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as the young kids would say and stop being an old fuddy duddy.
Pretty much.
People want to do in the bedroom they can do in the bedroom.
Let them be.
Yeah let them be.
So all those sort of things but that's that's awful.
It's an awful thing to go through especially if you are struggling with those sort of things
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and then even when you are in the workplace or you are at university at school etc there's
still that you know a looming potential of receiving homophobic bullying which as well
is just.
And like not even just like homophobic bullying.
No no.
You could be trans non-binary or fucking you know polyamorous or ethical non-monogamous
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relationship and people won't agree with it.
It's like it's none of your fucking business.
Yeah.
Yep absolutely.
Yeah there's one thing that I really like is or I like to think about is you know people
would judge other people's relationships or I've had people around me who have then judged
other people's relationships.
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My response to that is just like so.
Like if you're worried that people are going to judge your relationship because it is maybe
you know like you said polyamorous or one of those sort of different sort of relationships
like it's yours.
You identify your relationship how you want to identify your relationship.
Don't let other people's thoughts on how you should have a relationship swayed your decision
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you know.
That's between you and the other people person or persons that you're in the relationship
with.
So you know you do it how you want to do it and you'll feel better for it.
Try to find the fuck a window latch because I'm cooking.
30 degrees you sweating.
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I'm wearing fuck all and I'm cooking.
Yeah well do though.
You know I'm just laughing because you look like one of those.
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No I'm not I'm not doing it.
I know it's too nasty.
It's too nasty.
I'm going to be good.
I'm going to be nice.
I've already had a stab at you today.
It's all right.
I'll have multiple stabs at you when you show up.
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Anyway yeah so that's that's sexuality.
Anyway that's a quick kind of chat about that.
Yeah there's more though.
But wait there's more.
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Yep yep there is definitely more.
There is so much more.
Do I really want to do this one?
This one hits this one hits home.
Sex and depression.
I'm not curious anymore.
You're like oh yeah curious.
What you got what you got.
Oh shit.
Yeah sex and depression.
That's an interesting one though.
It is.
Because it can be.
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Like very polarizing kind of situations like you could be really depressed and one of your
unhealthy coping mechanisms may be intense hypersexuality or you may just not be able
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to get it up or be interested in it in the slightest.
It's kind of like it's one of two ways.
Yeah or you may let it fly too quickly and that's also something to be concerned about
you know or worried about or something that you can feel ashamed of.
So but you shouldn't.
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It just means that you're very incredibly attracted to the person you're sleeping with.
Absolutely.
It's a compliment.
It's a compliment.
That was shocking.
That was shocking.
That was terrible.
I don't fucking care.
Yeah so sex and depression.
Apparently, I don't even know this source is true, but around 10% of the population
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suffers from episodic depression that severely impairs their quality of life and functioning.
Sounds about right.
And coming with that is something as you smile.
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You smiled at it.
No I smirked because you smirked.
You said it and you looked at me for the reaction and smirked and so I was like you fucking
child.
Yeah we're very immature.
We should have known this going into this episode.
I knew this was going to be a shit show, but it's going to be a good shit show.
An absolute mess.
I forgot where I was going with that, but yeah that can have obviously an effect on
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your sexual drive and that can be harmful potentially in situations where you're in
relationships because that could be-
You don't find me attractive.
You don't love me.
You don't want me.
It's like no I'm just feeling fucking depressed.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's it.
And it's sort of one of those things that because you're too, you know, we sometimes
are too worried or scared to have that open honest conversation and talk about it, then
that's where things get lost in translation and we end up making up our own minds about
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the situation without knowing the full extent of what the other person's going through.
So very important.
So yeah, you know, depression is affecting those sort of things, which can.
I've been there and yeah, talk.
Are you trying to admit that you were really depressed and you're busting out too quick?
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What do you mean?
I don't know.
Too depressed, you're busting quick.
I don't know if those two things might get made.
Maybe they do.
Maybe they do.
I can't imagine.
Has it?
I don't know.
I don't know.
Not for me anyway.
Not for you.
No, no, no, no.
The complete opposite.
The complete opposite.
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But anyway, this is not an interrogation.
I'm not here to spill it all about me.
Give the listeners what they want to hear.
I don't think that's what they want to hear.
I don't even think that's what they want to hear.
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Genome?
Yeah.
What the fuck's genome?
It's as big as a needle and goes like a fucking sewing machine.
I haven't heard that one before.
That one's good.
Yeah, that's good.
All right, we've got another one.
Here we go.
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Anxiety and sex.
Similar kind of thing.
Pretty much, yeah.
If you get yourself all worked up due to your anxiety, then chances are that you...
I don't know what happens for women.
I'm not a fucking woman, so I can't even begin to pretend to know what potential things maybe
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your fucking coochie shrivels up or something.
I don't fucking know.
I don't know.
What?
But if you...
Fuck up, dickhead.
If you're a guy and you're anxious as fuck, then yeah, one of the potential things is
that you might not get it up or you might be a fucking one-pump chump, the old Victor
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two-stroke, like the old Honda fucking instant start.
One pull and you're done.
Yeah, bang.
It's efficient.
For you, yeah.
Efficiency is key.
For them, no.
I have slept with a couple of people though that have said that it's a very big compliment
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if a guy finishes fast.
Oh yeah.
But I guess I've never complimented any of them.
We can go and save Bob.
Chad.
I can hear those coochies shriveling up with every word I say right now.
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Yeah, good luck now.
Dan.
Yeah.
But yeah, performance anxiety is well known thing that can happen as well when it comes
to anxiety.
I'd push you to the point too, if not actually initiating either, to the point that you don't
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even make a move on your significant other or just friends with benefits or fucking someone
you find attractive, whatever.
You might get to the point where it's just like, no.
Fuck no.
Yep.
Well, that's it because yeah, your self esteem deteriorates and then you're left feeling
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pretty bad about yourself and feeling like you're not good enough at it and all that
sort of stuff.
I feel like I'm going to have to fucking tell grandma not to watch this episode.
I didn't really say anything bad.
It's just an episode she needs to see.
Is it because you're a cooking roast turkey?
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At the moment with the netting around yourself.
This is a very loose top.
I will have you know.
Good.
Good, good, good.
The only downside to this top is A, it makes me insecure and B, the fucking holes wrap
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around my nipple bars.
It gives me like intense nipple cripples.
But I kind of like it, so whatever.
That's probably the idea.
So yeah, look, there's, there's hapes of, hey.
What the fuck are you doing?
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No, I just scratched my knee.
Oh yeah, okay.
You really must know.
I thought I did it subtly enough, but apparently not.
It must have been really itchy.
Victor Tuchok.
Yeah, so there's lots of different things that, you know, come into play in regards
to sexual health, mental health and...
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You're spoiled.
Why are you spoiling?
Stop spoiling.
It's not funny.
I'm being serious.
So people have really-
You can't just come into and play in the same sentence without me smoking.
It's real serious.
No, but there's a lot of-
It is a serious topic.
I know, I'm trying to be serious.
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Yeah, so there's lots of different things that can, that can color.
I can't, I can't-
I didn't say anything.
No, I'm trying not to now.
So a lot of things from sexual health that can translate into affecting your mental health
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is what I was trying to get to with that.
It's like a flashback to the first episode when you're trying not to say um, gaps between
your words.
And now I'm just not trying to say come.
Close.
Oh, shoot.
Like how hard were the first episodes though?
Holy shit.
I don't remember them that long ago.
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This is what, 37 now?
No.
Yeah?
38?
I dare you to go back and like listen to like the first episode.
No, I did that a couple of months ago and then I couldn't.
It fucking sucked.
Yeah, it did.
It was bad.
It was bad.
It was cringe.
Yeah, performance anxiety.
It's a real thing.
Oh yeah.
Alright, fucking.
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So, if, for the last thing, just to finish on.
If you know someone who's maybe come to you, you know what, whatever.
I didn't even smirk.
No, I know, but I was just trying to avoid it and I couldn't avoid it.
If you know someone that has approached you and they said that, you know, they're dealing
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with these sort of issues and they're trying to get some help.
How do you support someone, you know, a company like that?
Well, so, and this is stuff we do with mental health.
It's just the usual.
You know?
I have a chat.
Yeah.
I'd be a fucking hypocrite judgmental prick.
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I knew you were going to say that.
I could have almost.
You were going to say it word for word?
Yeah, word for word.
I was always going to start saying the exact same words that you were going to just to
make it, yeah, anyway.
Express acceptance.
Something I'd never do to a Christian.
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Respect Caleb.
I was pansexual and he's just like, oh, I did not.
He didn't make me like a fucking spastic.
I don't need to.
I do that myself.
Very funny.
Ha ha.
Funny.
Ha ha.
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I'm a fucking hairy ass.
Require or ask that, you know, family members or friends, you know, if you're being honest
with them, you know, ask them like to respect your decisions and your choices of sexuality.
You know, that sort of thing.
Small changes.
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And that's the thing too, like you don't need to agree with how someone lives their life.
Just don't be a cunt.
Honestly, like, you know, I remember, oh, he's a fucking little nugget from the past.
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So I identify as pansexual, so I don't care what you've got or what you identify as.
If I find you attractive, I find you attractive.
That's all there is to it.
So I used to be extremely homophobic.
Like when I was growing up, I was I was homophobic as fuck.
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And so like people would be like, what are you going to do if you have your own kids
and what if like your son comes to you and says he's gay?
And I was always like, oh, fuck that.
My kid will never be gay.
It's like, fuck that attitude.
Oh, shit.
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Arrogant.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I was a piece of shit.
Still on.
Yeah, 100 percent.
But I'm a shinier piece of shit now.
I'm a polished turd now.
Bit of wax on, wax off.
Fuck off, Dickhead.
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But it doesn't matter what other people want to do.
Like, honestly, like it just it's not your life.
And you don't get to judge people or dictate to others what they do to make themselves happy.
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Within boundaries, of course, there's obviously exceptions, but when it comes to sexuality
and genders and shit like that, relationships, all of that stuff, it's not even a fucking business.
And yeah, it just.
No, it goes such a long way.
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Like, it's getting better.
I know it's getting better.
But, you know, in general, society has gotten so much better with it now than what it was, say, 10, 20 plus years ago.
Still plenty of room for improvement, for sure.
Yeah, there's still a lot of assholes out there that still, you know, people different to them like shit.
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Yeah.
And all it's going to do is just help. It's going to help anyone who are or is going through those sort of things
and maybe feeling a bit like an outcast, just showing support and respect.
It's just two things that you can do to help them, you know, feel normal.
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And I hate using that word, but, you know, getting it right.
Like, you know, I can just feel like.
Yeah, accepted. Feel like themselves is the better way of putting it.
Yeah.
So if you feel like yourself and you feel accepted, that's a really good step in a healthier mental health.
Massive step. That's one of the biggest steps in mental health in general.
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You know, if you're going through anything in mental health, that's a huge step.
But anyone going through any type of mental health, like anything that we've talked about on this podcast, is self-acceptance.
And I think we did that. We did talk about that in an episode.
Did talk.
Longed.
Did talked.
Longed.
Longed.
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Geez, I'm doing good today.
Oh goody.
Got a lot of extra D in there, Caleb.
I got nothing.
Hmm. Hmm. Yeah.
But I did have one point to make too.
All right, go for it.
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Good.
I don't need your fucking permission.
Good. Good. As long as you only got one point.
I got two.
Okay then.
Keep talking and I'll have three.
Um, fuck I forgot.
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It was really good too.
Oh, that's what she said.
Aha. Um.
Um.
So.
Five minutes later.
Ten years later.
When people are starting.
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Motherfucker.
I couldn't hold that in.
All right, sorry.
I'll shut up.
Go on.
When people are discovering their sexuality.
And entering into relationships and all this shit.
It is a hard time to navigate.
It doesn't matter if you are what society perceives as normal or different or anything like that.
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It doesn't matter what path you're walking down.
It fucking sucks.
Yes.
It's nerve wracking.
It's scary.
Yep.
Your body fucks you over in so many different ways.
It's ridiculous.
Uh huh.
Just let people navigate themselves.
Yes.
That's all I'm saying.
Just.
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Yep.
It's already hard enough for every single one of us.
Don't make it fucking harder.
Just.
I'm not doing anything.
I'm agreeing.
I'm agreeing.
I'm just agreeing.
With your statement.
You sound like you're stoned and you're trying not to be stoned so you can talk to someone.
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I'm not stoned.
I've been in that situation before.
Me too.
Totally haven't been on LST.
No, really good point.
It doesn't matter what sexuality.
And yeah, all types.
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You support your peeps.
Yes.
Yes.
Help people along.
Yep.
And don't judge them.
Yep.
That's it.
Some good words of wisdom to finish on.
I'll finish on you.
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We're going to cut to an end break.
Um, pull me back.
Chat about some music.
Just a moment.
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Welcome back to this week's episode of the Pain in Our Head podcast.
This week we've been talking about sexual health.
Yep.
And mental health.
How it all blends in, combines.
Didn't even do any sex stories.
No, but I didn't think, you know, you don't have any anyway.
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Got actually.
I've got two kids.
Where's your fucking evidence?
You make a good point.
Yeah.
So we're talking about that.
Anyway, that's been good.
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There's a lot of information out about that sort of thing.
I'm actually going to post.
There is, there's a lot.
I'm going to post the two things that we were having to look at.
Overwhelming.
In the description.
There is in the description this week.
So you can go have a peruse.
So that, you know, you can see the information we weren't just pulling from nowhere.
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So that's there.
That'll be up there.
What's been pretty been listened to this week?
Oh, we should talk about the offspring.
So fucking much this week.
It's painful.
There.
Usually is.
So the Offsprings album came out last Friday.
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You've listened to it all.
So have I.
I should hope so.
Did you like it?
Yeah.
Not like a start.
Like, you know, it's not one of those albums that you want to start going from like start to finish and thoroughly enjoy the shit out of every song.
But there's some good shit on it.
No, no, it was.
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Yeah, that's exactly right.
Not one of the best albums.
It'll probably grow on me the more I listen to it.
If I get into an offspring mood, I'll throw it on.
Not a shower.
That's exactly right.
If I can find the album, find the actual song that I liked.
There's one on there that I thought was just unbelievable.
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Fall Guy.
The Fall Guy.
Fall Guy.
Is there another one I thought I really liked?
I thought there was.
Dude, I've got so many songs that I've added since the last podcast.
It's fucking stupid.
Looking out for number one.
I enjoyed that too.
Yeah.
Yep.
Yep.
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Hanging by a thread.
I think that one was I think that one was good.
I can't remember.
I'll have to go through and listen to them again.
But it's pretty good.
I enjoyed listening to it.
But yeah.
I just looked at the album title for what I've been listening to.
What have you been listening to?
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What's the album?
Infant Annihilator released an EP yesterday, last night.
It's titled Mr. Sister Fister.
It fits.
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Yeah.
Yeah.
Mr. Sister Fister.
Is your sister single?
I've got two younger sisters, right?
Right.
And Tomo and Gumby and Jason actually and Vossie.
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All of them.
Whenever I'd have a story to say and it mentioned my family,
especially my sisters,
I'm like, I was chatting to my sister and all of them without fail.
Every fucking time would be like, which one?
The hot one?
That's terrible.
That's terrible.
Every time.
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That's awful.
Cause I knew it would burn me up.
That would boil you up.
That's why I ask if your sister's single.
Just to wind you up a little bit.
Don't bother me.
I could be your brother-in-law.
I'm not going to say what I want to say.
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I'll save that for after the podcast.
Anyway, Infant Annihilator.
Cool.
Nothing else to say about it.
It's good.
It's not the best.
Like the Battle of Yelberdoth.
It yelled at Yelda Beth.
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I think the last album that came out was fucking intense.
It's better than this, but I still enjoyed it.
But I did have a song.
It ties into this theme, which I haven't done in a fucking long time.
Tie a song into the theme.
Yeah.
Okay.
What's that?
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Other than Casual Sex.
Well, it's from that band.
It's My Darkest Days.
And it's Pornstar Dancing.
Because that song makes me feel like a dirty little bitch.
I just want to dry hump and grind everything in sight.
I don't know why.
It just does it to me.
It makes me feel real dirty.
Yeah, right.
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It's just got that groove to it.
Like it's got that fucking feel.
It's like, oh yeah.
Music can do that.
There's a lot of music that was designed for that purpose.
Yep.
To put you in the mood.
So.
Yeah.
It just really gets me fucking just makes me want to talk dirty and be a naughty little boy.
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Hmm. Hmm. Good for you.
Hmm. Hmm.
I play it before I send you a good morning, boys know.
Oh yeah, do you?
Yeah.
That's great.
Hmm.
Ben, you sent me a song.
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Don't remember.
The Browning? No.
We spoke about The Browning last week.
Did we speak about it last week?
Soul Drift by The Browning.
I'm pretty sure we did.
Hmm. I think we did.
I don't know if I'd listened to it.
No, you probably hadn't.
No, but I feel like you listened to it this week.
I've listened to it this week and that was cool.
Cool. Yeah.
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It's really cool.
Yeah.
Weird fucking blend that you wouldn't expect.
Weird. It is, but super cool.
Very electronic and super fucking heavy.
Yeah. Great mixing.
No, just enjoyed it. Just really enjoyed it.
Hmm. Yep.
It's good.
If I'm going to blend the song into the theme,
Sex Type Thing by Stone Temple Pilots.
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I like Stone Temple Pilots.
Yeah, Sex Type Thing.
That's a good song.
Are they the ones that do Dead and Bloated?
I think so.
Yes, they are.
Yeah.
Yes. Yes.
I like that song.
Yes. Yeah. Yeah.
That's from the core album.
Hmm.
Good song.
I like the purple album.
Yeah.
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Yeah.
I like the blue, um, Interstate Love song.
Hmm.
It's a great fucking song.
Yeah.
There's so many bands that we could talk about for like,
sexual songs.
Like Steel Panther, every single song they've ever fucking written.
Yeah.
Yeah. Yep. Absolutely.
Eeps of Kiss songs.
Fucking Motley Crue.
Yeah.
Motley Crue.
Alice Cooper.
Like...
Yeah.
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Alice Cooper.
We'll Hop for Teacher.
Meat Loaf.
Meat Loaf.
Yeah.
There's lots, lots of different songs.
Yeah.
About this topic.
Hmm.
Our parents were sluts.
Yeah.
This is all the music back from the 70s and the 80s.
That's all you did back then.
There's no internet.
That's why there's so many mistakes.
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What the old glory hole.
But yeah, Interstate Love song by Stone Temple Pilots as well as Plush.
Love that song too.
Yeah.
I do like a fair few of their songs.
So, hmm.
I've listened to a few of those this week.
I've been listening to a bit of that sort of music actually this week from the 80s and the 90s.
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Hmm.
Yeah.
That old stuff sort of gets me there.
I like it.
Hmm.
You know, old school kind of grunge.
Yeah.
Because I still am.
Grunge is probably...
There's not a lot of grunge these days.
Yeah, for good reason.
It phased out.
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We got sick of it.
I didn't.
Sorry.
How many times did you hear like it's just a phase?
You'll grow out of it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No, I didn't.
I didn't.
I love grunge.
I still love grunge.
I wish it was...
I still miss the Minibo in metal.
I wish there was still more grunge music.
But there just isn't.
So, hmm.
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How good was the year 2000 by Silverchair?
Yeah.
Yes, I love Silverchair.
Yeah, all that stuff.
Yep.
Hmm.
Even...
That was a good song.
Ah, there's another song that came up the other day.
Grinspoon.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Yep.
Yep.
Love me some Grinspoon.
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So, yeah, no, sort of blast from the past listening to some of that stuff.
And yes, I've been listening to more SIDA.
Yeah.
It's good.
The album's good.
I'm enjoying it.
You know what ever floats your boat, buddy.
Yeah, no, that's it.
So, yeah, more of that.
But...
Have you had sex to it?
I don't even know what I've had sex to, to be honest.
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I don't really listen to music while I have sex, I tend to get stuck in the fucking beat.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's a problem for me as a drummer.
Yeah.
Just as a musician in general, I think.
I just lock in on that shit.
No, I'm locked in.
It's like you enjoy the ride because if Mordor Shaw comes on, we're both gonna fucking die.
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I've got you for three minutes.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So, for now, some good music.
Good music.
But no, that's all I've been listening to.
There's nothing else that I know of on my radar that's coming out, so...
No, not really.
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Not sure.
The Devin Townsend album's coming out still, I guess ages away I think though.
They released a new track from it.
I still haven't listened to that, I should.
I really do like Devin Townsend.
It's gonna be a good album, I already feel it.
Like from the three tracks that have dropped, I think that'll be it.
That'll be the only track that'll drop for it.
Yeah, exactly.
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Usually only two or three from an album.
So, but yeah, no, fucking great.
I don't remember the song title, but yeah, all three tracks have been really enjoyable.
Yep.
I'm very, very excited for that because I fucking love Devin Townsend.
Came for that.
Yeah.
I've seen him live in Brisbane.
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That's cool.
That would've been awesome.
Yeah, they played it...
I don't remember the name of the venue, but it was like an old...
It was in a city, but it was like an old airport hangar.
Oh.
Old airport hangar.
Yeah.
Hmm.
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Give me like fucking a minute, I reckon I'll have it.
I don't even know of any off the top of my head that...
Nothing comes to mind.
Boy, looking at that.
Another band that I've got to be out listening to some of their music this week.
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Alice in Chains.
Man in the Box.
Yeah.
Yep.
That's all I've been listening to.
Hmm.
Yep.
Apparently he was here in 23.
Oh, really?
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And more theatre?
Oh, yeah.
Yep.
Is this still going?
I don't know.
Hmm.
Oh.
Check it out.
Let us know.
Animal Theatre?
Does that sound about right?
Yeah, that sounds right.
I don't think I've ever been there.
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Hmm.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I couldn't tell you.
That can't be it either.
It doesn't look right.
I don't know.
Fuck it.
There's a cool fucking venue anyway.
Hmm.
I enjoyed it.
I got to see Devin.
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I was happy as fuck.
I love Devin.
He's got such an amazing stage performance too.
Yeah, really?
His strange presence is great.
He's just, like you've seen the live videos of him.
He just talks and interacts and he's just enjoying himself.
It's fucking great.
Yep.
I love performances like that.
Hmm.
Yep.
We were talking about it at work.
Today's Wednesday.
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It must have been the end of the week, end of last week we were talking about it.
Yeah.
One of the guys was saying that, yeah, they went and saw Mark Knopfler.
Oh.
And they reckon it was boring as hell.
Yeah, it would have been boring as hell, but no, I still would have gone.
I still would have loved it.
Fuck it.
That's what I said.
I was like, well, he's not a stage performer.
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He's just a really fucking talented musician.
You're there to experience the music.
Yeah.
You're there to watch his fingers on the guitar because that's the definition of sex.
That's, he's unbelievable.
Yeah.
Well, yep.
Unbelievable.
Bad joke there.
That's done, stopped you before.
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I just want to be bad.
I don't think I've even brought up the diastrates before.
I love diastrates.
I don't think we have.
No.
Love diastrates.
Money for nothing.
Walk of life.
Brothers in arms.
Salt and the swing.
Salt and the swing is probably my favorite album.
That's my album song.
Song.
Yeah.
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You've seen me cover that.
I have.
I have.
The intro to Money for Nothing.
That fucking drum fill.
And then when the guitar just like cuts in with that little bit of a like squeak, it's
like, wha-bam, ba-bam-bam.
It's like, oh, fuck.
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Oh, fuck it.
Oh, yeah.
That's sex.
That intro is sex.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yep.
And they're really good.
Do like diastrates.
Yeah.
Arknofle is fucking amazing.
Arknofle is amazing.
Yeah.
Envious of how well he can play the guitar.
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Well, Salt and the swing, he finger picks that, doesn't he?
I'm pretty sure like the guitar solo, he finger picks.
Yeah, I'm actually 100% sure.
I'm fucking sure I watched the video while it was, now we're talking about, yeah, like
actually like finger picks like the whole solo.
Yeah, well.
Almost to the song, I think.
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Yeah, cool shit.
Oh, there you go.
I actually don't think I knew that.
Hmm.
Oh, that's it.
That's it from me.
That's it from us.
No idea what we're talking about this week.
This was a surprise this week.
I hope you enjoyed this, listening to us ramble on about this topic.
Next week, we've got no idea.
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But come next week, I think we're going to have a good idea of what the next few is going
to look like.
We've got a best of coming.
So look out for that.
Best of, episodes one to 26.
You can.
It's probably just going to be reflected on Caleb.
Yeah, it's basically what it is.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's just short little snippets of you picking on me.
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So look forward to that.
Otherwise, that's it from me and Nips today.
We'll catch you next week.
It's okay to not be okay.
Tits out for the boys.
Bye.
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Hello what's going on everyone?
Welcome to this week's episode of the Pain in Our Nips podcast, ah Pain in Our Head podcast.
As if you start the episode like this.
The Pain in Our Head podcast, what did I say?
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It's been a long week.
I'm excited for this week's episode.
How are you Christian?
Fuck you.
Yeah.
Fuck you.
I fucking, I told you I was feeling self-conscious about wearing this and you were like no it's
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good man.
Giggle, giggle, giggle.
What's he do?
Fucking boom straight into the jokes.
That was a great line.
Yeah it was so accidental too wasn't it?
Yeah.
Whoops.
It was a bit of a slip up.
Caleb knew that I owned this top.
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I bought this ages ago and we came up with the idea let's talk about sex.
Let's talk about sex baby.
Fucking yeah anyway.
And I was like yeah that's a fucking sick topic let's do it.
And he's like this morning he's like you should wear your fishnet top for recording and I
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was like maybe whatever that's fine.
So I bought it before.
Yeah but I had a top on over it.
I felt very self-conscious about it and he's picking on me already.
Like 30 seconds in.
Negatively affecting my mental health in a mental health podcast.
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What an irony.
I'm good Caleb thank you.
It's good.
Good to hear.
How are you asshole?
Yeah good.
Naked as always.
Yeah fucking hell.
Surprise surprise.
Yeah.
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Nah just same usual stuff.
Video games.
A different day.
Yeah yep yep yep.
Playing lots of different games.
I can't find a game that I'm addicted to at the moment.
It's probably good then.
It's probably good not to get you know talked about not getting addicted to video games.
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But I like being addicted.
You know I like being addicted to something.
I wouldn't say we're addicted to it.
I like having that hangout time in the evening.
I look forward to it and then when we don't have a game that we're particularly interested
in it's like you kind of just sit there like do you want to play this?
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No.
Do you want to play this?
No.
It's like ooh.
You know what I'm talking about.
All the good games or the good hyped games came out early in the year and now it's just
kind of been a very very fast decline towards the end of the year and like what do we do
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now?
Waiting for the next big thing.
Wait uh anyway that's alright.
I don't even know what the next big thing is.
No.
So this is us in our element right doing an episode on uh sexual health and mental health.
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You came up with this one and as soon as you said it I was just like oh yeah.
I don't even know how I came up with it I think you sent me some music.
I did too yeah I sent you that um uh it was this the band that did that porn star dancing
song and I sent you the other casual sex I think it was called.
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Yes yep yeah yeah and then I was just like oh my god there's there's an idea so here
we are.
Sometimes he has good ideas sometimes he's just a fucking idiot it's just a coin flip
really yeah yeah get what you get.
You get what you get and you don't get upset.
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The kids come home saying that one from back there oh really oh really you get what you
get and you don't get upset it's like well fucking you remember that you fucking remember
that learn that lesson well yeah it's a good lesson.
I didn't want barbecue sauce I wanted tomato sauce I'm gonna suck it.
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Same thing.
No it's not.
Yeah that's not the same thing.
You like vinegar on chips?
Yeah yeah on hot chips like hot proper hot potato chips yeah yeah yeah and barbecue sauce
vinegar chicken salt fuck them.
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Yeah chicken salt.
I haven't eaten.
I'm fucking hungry.
And a parmy and chips.
I could do that tonight actually after we record and order a fucking parmy from the
the Macclesfield Hotel where they have won multiple awards for South Australia's best
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chicken schnitzel.
Which is what we're gonna have that when you show up too.
I've already sent you the menu so you need to figure out which one you're gonna have.
Ah yeah yeah yeah there's so many good looking ones on there.
Yeah I think I think I had my mind made up I'll have to look at the menu again but yeah.
I'll get it for you again yeah.
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Mmm yeah yeah.
They're fancy parmys they're not just like normal chicken parmys they do different ones.
Yeah put extra shit on it.
I think I want I think I want the one with the sauerkraut.
I think that's where I was going.
Yeah I think so yeah.
I haven't had that one.
Sounds good.
Bit of mustard.
I love me some mustard.
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When we used to have hot dogs growing up like wouldn't you know you'd do like your hot dog
nights and I was the only one that had mustard.
Yeah same.
No one else wanted mustard.
So it was just like my sisters would literally be a hot dog with tomato sauce.
Yeah.
What about the rest of it like what about onion bacon cheese.
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Right yeah.
Now I'm like sauerkraut.
Yeah.
That's the other thing we'll do too we'll go to Handorf in the German village so we
can get a nice big fucking sauerkraut hot dog.
Yeah I'm looking forward to it.
German sausage.
Yeah we're gonna have so much to chat about when we when I come back and we do another
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episode.
We'll finally relieve all that sexual tension.
Is that what you reckon it is?
Oh yes I will.
I don't get a choice.
Pretty sure it's written down here somewhere.
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One of these documents that we're looking at.
We've got a few different sources relating to yes sexual health and mental health and
how it all ties in together.
A bit of a taboo topic sex isn't it.
People get really uncomfortable about it.
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So here's a warning if you're listening to this and watching this and this topic is something
that makes you feel uncomfortable.
Stop listening.
Stop watching.
Stop watching.
Watch last week's episode instead.
I enjoy being a prude.
No.
That's mean.
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Some people just don't like talking about it and that's fine.
Everyone's different so I'm very fucking open about my sex life I guess.
Can you just ask your poor dad.
Hey dad.
Poor prick.
He'll be like just casually enjoying his day.
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He might have just gotten home from a fucking 14 hour truck drive because he's a truckie
and he's like trying to crawl into bed and he just gets a random message from me.
He's like hey dad guess what I did last night.
He's just like.
When'd I go wrong?
He's like a bit of a legend but at the same time I'm your fucking dad.
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Mental scarring.
Yeah so sexual health.
I think it's important.
Yeah yeah absolutely.
I think it's important to have those discussions.
Yeah you know it starts obviously early on like school and stuff like that because you
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have your sexual education as you would call it.
Your skill.
Did Harold teach you about sex?
No see I actually I don't know whether I was lucky or unlucky.
I missed every single class for some reason.
I don't know if I had like sporting events on at the time.
I just for some reason I cruised through school without having to sit through one class of
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sexual education.
So you never had to put a fucking condom on a banana?
On a banana no.
Never had to do that.
No I missed it all.
I missed all the fun.
So awkward.
Yeah well yeah that's the thing right.
Like you know hormone crazed teenagers.
Or sitting in the same sex room.
Yeah.
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Sex ed's fucking stupid.
It's not stupid but like once you get older you realize that they're just trying to fucking
you know like the whole like I still remember like you know oh yeah you know make sure you
use a condom when you have sex.
It feels it doesn't feel any different to not using one.
You fucking liar, you fucking filthy liar.
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Don't fucking fuck you.
Yeah a bunch of liars.
Yeah.
Anyway we're not condoning unprotected sex by the way.
If you're married or you're in a committed relationship.
Practice safe sex obviously because you don't want STIs or unplanned pregnancies like we
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fucking were.
Because then you end up with people like us.
That's exactly right.
We could be an ad for fucking birth control.
Yeah yeah before you know it we'll be getting sponsored by fucking drugging.
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Yeah the condom ads where like the kids like throwing a tantrum in the fucking supermarket
and it's like it turns out to be an ad for a birth control like for condoms.
It's just like they can just show like a couple of clips from the podcast and be like you
don't use protection.
This is what your kids will turn out like.
This is what happens.
Yeah yeah fuck around and find out.
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Yeah literally.
So sexual health if I can give my words out I'm still laughing.
Refers to physical, mental, emotional, social well-being in relation to one's sexuality.
I let it go and talks about the whole different range of obviously different sexualities.
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And I think the biggest thing that caught my eye is if we're going to talk about this
part first is the the kind of side effects.
No no no but it was a good Photoshop session.
I'm a unicorn Charlie.
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Yeah if anyone ever hears me call Christian a unicorn don't ask.
The yeah just the effects of you know learning about your sexuality and being comfortable
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with your sexuality and all things that come along with that because it can be a quite
it can be quite difficult to navigate you know like.
Well it's a whole fucking can of worms these days.
Yeah it is and you gotta be really careful as well.
You know.
Well like back when I was you know fucking starting to delve into the world of sexuality
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and intercourse and relationships like the norm was male female monogamous relationships
and it's just not the fucking case anymore.
No.
There's so many different styles of like ethical non-monogamy there's polyamory there's fucking
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normal I don't want to say normal now like heterosexual.
And then obviously there's all the different types of sexual it's like you got homosexuals
you know gay people lesbians asexuals demisexuals.
Yeah.
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Like yeah.
Yeah I mean it's from even from when I was younger it's becoming a lot more well I can't
think of the word a lot more known I guess or a lot more understood in terms of like
a topic it's a lot more broadly understood and recognized I think is the word I'm looking
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for.
But I can imagine especially for you know anyone your age even my age growing up if
they weren't a part I guess that heterosexual category there would have been a lot of common
experiences of you know feeling left out feeling different you know probably succumbing to
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homophobic bullying and we did an episode on bullying a few weeks ago we don't I don't
even think we touched on tossing this but that's there that's a it was a whole whole
thing you know feeling pressure feeling worried about being honest and open who you can be
honest and open with and who you can I guess as they say come out to and then you know
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also feeling unsupported as well you know if you're in a quite a you know a family
may not support it those sort of things depending on you know their type values and traditions
and etc etc so it's a lot of issues that come with those experiences.
It was pretty fucking sweet like cute when you came out to me.
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Not yet I'll say how this went.
Yeah well like the day that you told me that you loved Sether and you're obsessed with
him like that was when I knew you were gay.
I thought you were gonna say when I told you I played Rocket League.
No I was gonna say RuneScape.
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Yeah no look yeah very good well done.
Much well.
Get you back for the nipples.
Yes anyway so there's you know a lot of mental health problems that can come from navigating
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your sexuality.
It was like trying to find your people too like it's getting easier there's dating apps
designed for people that aren't you know of the heterosexual persuasion there's ones that
are designed for kinky people and other people like I'm not gonna go and list them all like
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I'm on a few of them but I don't want to see any of you there.
Bless your mams Caleb.
Like yeah you know you won't see me on any of those unfortunately.
But yeah so there's a lot of you know mental health issues that can arise with the navigation
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of this but as you said it is getting a lot better to or easier to find other people within
those categories which is that it's a whole support network that's a big thing because
once you've got some support network around this sort of the topic it doesn't make it
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easier.
I guess it does make it easier it doesn't help it entirely but it does make part of
it easier so you know just and the things obviously look out for you know because if
you are feeling like you know you left out and you can't come out or you can't be open
and honest with anyone you know you've got changes in your mood changes in your behavior
changes in relationship appetite sleep coping changes in your thinking as well like all
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those things and we've spoken about all those things individually.
So basically what I'm getting to from this is those are the sort of things that then
start to push back onto your mental health.
Pun intended.
I didn't know you'd like that one.
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I didn't need to make a comment for that one everyone knows.
So yeah but no those pressures as well like you know issues through like growing up you
know when you become an adult going through school you know you know it's scary going
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to things like you know managing school going to university even you know finding a job
things like that.
Yeah true yeah.
You know.
I wouldn't think of that.
Yeah because there's still a lot of places I'd say out there that are maybe not so woke
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as the young kids would say and stop being an old fuddy duddy.
Pretty much.
People want to do in the bedroom they can do in the bedroom.
Let them be.
Yeah let them be.
So all those sort of things but that's that's awful.
It's an awful thing to go through especially if you are struggling with those sort of things
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and then even when you are in the workplace or you are at university at school etc there's
still that you know a looming potential of receiving homophobic bullying which as well
is just.
And like not even just like homophobic bullying.
No no.
You could be trans non-binary or fucking you know polyamorous or ethical non-monogamous
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relationship and people won't agree with it.
It's like it's none of your fucking business.
Yeah.
Yep absolutely.
Yeah there's one thing that I really like is or I like to think about is you know people
would judge other people's relationships or I've had people around me who have then judged
other people's relationships.
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My response to that is just like so.
Like if you're worried that people are going to judge your relationship because it is maybe
you know like you said polyamorous or one of those sort of different sort of relationships
like it's yours.
You identify your relationship how you want to identify your relationship.
Don't let other people's thoughts on how you should have a relationship swayed your decision
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you know.
That's between you and the other people person or persons that you're in the relationship
with.
So you know you do it how you want to do it and you'll feel better for it.
Try to find the fuck a window latch because I'm cooking.
30 degrees you sweating.
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I'm wearing fuck all and I'm cooking.
Yeah well do though.
You know I'm just laughing because you look like one of those.
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No I'm not I'm not doing it.
I know it's too nasty.
It's too nasty.
I'm going to be good.
I'm going to be nice.
I've already had a stab at you today.
It's all right.
I'll have multiple stabs at you when you show up.
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Anyway yeah so that's that's sexuality.
Anyway that's a quick kind of chat about that.
Yeah there's more though.
But wait there's more.
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Yep yep there is definitely more.
There is so much more.
Do I really want to do this one?
This one hits this one hits home.
Sex and depression.
I'm not curious anymore.
You're like oh yeah curious.
What you got what you got.
Oh shit.
Yeah sex and depression.
That's an interesting one though.
It is.
Because it can be.
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Like very polarizing kind of situations like you could be really depressed and one of your
unhealthy coping mechanisms may be intense hypersexuality or you may just not be able
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to get it up or be interested in it in the slightest.
It's kind of like it's one of two ways.
Yeah or you may let it fly too quickly and that's also something to be concerned about
you know or worried about or something that you can feel ashamed of.
So but you shouldn't.
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It just means that you're very incredibly attracted to the person you're sleeping with.
Absolutely.
It's a compliment.
It's a compliment.
That was shocking.
That was shocking.
That was terrible.
I don't fucking care.
Yeah so sex and depression.
Apparently, I don't even know this source is true, but around 10% of the population
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suffers from episodic depression that severely impairs their quality of life and functioning.
Sounds about right.
And coming with that is something as you smile.
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You smiled at it.
No I smirked because you smirked.
You said it and you looked at me for the reaction and smirked and so I was like you fucking
child.
Yeah we're very immature.
We should have known this going into this episode.
I knew this was going to be a shit show, but it's going to be a good shit show.
An absolute mess.
I forgot where I was going with that, but yeah that can have obviously an effect on
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your sexual drive and that can be harmful potentially in situations where you're in
relationships because that could be-
You don't find me attractive.
You don't love me.
You don't want me.
It's like no I'm just feeling fucking depressed.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's it.
And it's sort of one of those things that because you're too, you know, we sometimes
are too worried or scared to have that open honest conversation and talk about it, then
that's where things get lost in translation and we end up making up our own minds about
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the situation without knowing the full extent of what the other person's going through.
So very important.
So yeah, you know, depression is affecting those sort of things, which can.
I've been there and yeah, talk.
Are you trying to admit that you were really depressed and you're busting out too quick?
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What do you mean?
I don't know.
Too depressed, you're busting quick.
I don't know if those two things might get made.
Maybe they do.
Maybe they do.
I can't imagine.
Has it?
I don't know.
I don't know.
Not for me anyway.
Not for you.
No, no, no, no.
The complete opposite.
The complete opposite.
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But anyway, this is not an interrogation.
I'm not here to spill it all about me.
Give the listeners what they want to hear.
I don't think that's what they want to hear.
I don't even think that's what they want to hear.
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Genome?
Yeah.
What the fuck's genome?
It's as big as a needle and goes like a fucking sewing machine.
I haven't heard that one before.
That one's good.
Yeah, that's good.
All right, we've got another one.
Here we go.
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Anxiety and sex.
Similar kind of thing.
Pretty much, yeah.
If you get yourself all worked up due to your anxiety, then chances are that you...
I don't know what happens for women.
I'm not a fucking woman, so I can't even begin to pretend to know what potential things maybe
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your fucking coochie shrivels up or something.
I don't fucking know.
I don't know.
What?
But if you...
Fuck up, dickhead.
If you're a guy and you're anxious as fuck, then yeah, one of the potential things is
that you might not get it up or you might be a fucking one-pump chump, the old Victor
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two-stroke, like the old Honda fucking instant start.
One pull and you're done.
Yeah, bang.
It's efficient.
For you, yeah.
Efficiency is key.
For them, no.
I have slept with a couple of people though that have said that it's a very big compliment
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if a guy finishes fast.
Oh yeah.
But I guess I've never complimented any of them.
We can go and save Bob.
Chad.
I can hear those coochies shriveling up with every word I say right now.
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Yeah, good luck now.
Dan.
Yeah.
But yeah, performance anxiety is well known thing that can happen as well when it comes
to anxiety.
I'd push you to the point too, if not actually initiating either, to the point that you don't
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even make a move on your significant other or just friends with benefits or fucking someone
you find attractive, whatever.
You might get to the point where it's just like, no.
Fuck no.
Yep.
Well, that's it because yeah, your self esteem deteriorates and then you're left feeling
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pretty bad about yourself and feeling like you're not good enough at it and all that
sort of stuff.
I feel like I'm going to have to fucking tell grandma not to watch this episode.
I didn't really say anything bad.
It's just an episode she needs to see.
Is it because you're a cooking roast turkey?
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At the moment with the netting around yourself.
This is a very loose top.
I will have you know.
Good.
Good, good, good.
The only downside to this top is A, it makes me insecure and B, the fucking holes wrap
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around my nipple bars.
It gives me like intense nipple cripples.
But I kind of like it, so whatever.
That's probably the idea.
So yeah, look, there's, there's hapes of, hey.
What the fuck are you doing?
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No, I just scratched my knee.
Oh yeah, okay.
You really must know.
I thought I did it subtly enough, but apparently not.
It must have been really itchy.
Victor Tuchok.
Yeah, so there's lots of different things that, you know, come into play in regards
to sexual health, mental health and...
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You're spoiled.
Why are you spoiling?
Stop spoiling.
It's not funny.
I'm being serious.
So people have really-
You can't just come into and play in the same sentence without me smoking.
It's real serious.
No, but there's a lot of-
It is a serious topic.
I know, I'm trying to be serious.
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Yeah, so there's lots of different things that can, that can color.
I can't, I can't-
I didn't say anything.
No, I'm trying not to now.
So a lot of things from sexual health that can translate into affecting your mental health
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is what I was trying to get to with that.
It's like a flashback to the first episode when you're trying not to say um, gaps between
your words.
And now I'm just not trying to say come.
Close.
Oh, shoot.
Like how hard were the first episodes though?
Holy shit.
I don't remember them that long ago.
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This is what, 37 now?
No.
Yeah?
38?
I dare you to go back and like listen to like the first episode.
No, I did that a couple of months ago and then I couldn't.
It fucking sucked.
Yeah, it did.
It was bad.
It was bad.
It was cringe.
Yeah, performance anxiety.
It's a real thing.
Oh yeah.
Alright, fucking.
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So, if, for the last thing, just to finish on.
If you know someone who's maybe come to you, you know what, whatever.
I didn't even smirk.
No, I know, but I was just trying to avoid it and I couldn't avoid it.
If you know someone that has approached you and they said that, you know, they're dealing
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with these sort of issues and they're trying to get some help.
How do you support someone, you know, a company like that?
Well, so, and this is stuff we do with mental health.
It's just the usual.
You know?
I have a chat.
Yeah.
I'd be a fucking hypocrite judgmental prick.
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I knew you were going to say that.
I could have almost.
You were going to say it word for word?
Yeah, word for word.
I was always going to start saying the exact same words that you were going to just to
make it, yeah, anyway.
Express acceptance.
Something I'd never do to a Christian.
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Respect Caleb.
I was pansexual and he's just like, oh, I did not.
He didn't make me like a fucking spastic.
I don't need to.
I do that myself.
Very funny.
Ha ha.
Funny.
Ha ha.
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I'm a fucking hairy ass.
Require or ask that, you know, family members or friends, you know, if you're being honest
with them, you know, ask them like to respect your decisions and your choices of sexuality.
You know, that sort of thing.
Small changes.
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And that's the thing too, like you don't need to agree with how someone lives their life.
Just don't be a cunt.
Honestly, like, you know, I remember, oh, he's a fucking little nugget from the past.
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So I identify as pansexual, so I don't care what you've got or what you identify as.
If I find you attractive, I find you attractive.
That's all there is to it.
So I used to be extremely homophobic.
Like when I was growing up, I was I was homophobic as fuck.
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And so like people would be like, what are you going to do if you have your own kids
and what if like your son comes to you and says he's gay?
And I was always like, oh, fuck that.
My kid will never be gay.
It's like, fuck that attitude.
Oh, shit.
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Arrogant.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I was a piece of shit.
Still on.
Yeah, 100 percent.
But I'm a shinier piece of shit now.
I'm a polished turd now.
Bit of wax on, wax off.
Fuck off, Dickhead.
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But it doesn't matter what other people want to do.
Like, honestly, like it just it's not your life.
And you don't get to judge people or dictate to others what they do to make themselves happy.
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Within boundaries, of course, there's obviously exceptions, but when it comes to sexuality
and genders and shit like that, relationships, all of that stuff, it's not even a fucking business.
And yeah, it just.
No, it goes such a long way.
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Like, it's getting better.
I know it's getting better.
But, you know, in general, society has gotten so much better with it now than what it was, say, 10, 20 plus years ago.
Still plenty of room for improvement, for sure.
Yeah, there's still a lot of assholes out there that still, you know, people different to them like shit.
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Yeah.
And all it's going to do is just help. It's going to help anyone who are or is going through those sort of things
and maybe feeling a bit like an outcast, just showing support and respect.
It's just two things that you can do to help them, you know, feel normal.
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And I hate using that word, but, you know, getting it right.
Like, you know, I can just feel like.
Yeah, accepted. Feel like themselves is the better way of putting it.
Yeah.
So if you feel like yourself and you feel accepted, that's a really good step in a healthier mental health.
Massive step. That's one of the biggest steps in mental health in general.
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You know, if you're going through anything in mental health, that's a huge step.
But anyone going through any type of mental health, like anything that we've talked about on this podcast, is self-acceptance.
And I think we did that. We did talk about that in an episode.
Did talk.
Longed.
Did talked.
Longed.
Longed.
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Geez, I'm doing good today.
Oh goody.
Got a lot of extra D in there, Caleb.
I got nothing.
Hmm. Hmm. Yeah.
But I did have one point to make too.
All right, go for it.
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Good.
I don't need your fucking permission.
Good. Good. As long as you only got one point.
I got two.
Okay then.
Keep talking and I'll have three.
Um, fuck I forgot.
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It was really good too.
Oh, that's what she said.
Aha. Um.
Um.
So.
Five minutes later.
Ten years later.
When people are starting.
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Motherfucker.
I couldn't hold that in.
All right, sorry.
I'll shut up.
Go on.
When people are discovering their sexuality.
And entering into relationships and all this shit.
It is a hard time to navigate.
It doesn't matter if you are what society perceives as normal or different or anything like that.
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It doesn't matter what path you're walking down.
It fucking sucks.
Yes.
It's nerve wracking.
It's scary.
Yep.
Your body fucks you over in so many different ways.
It's ridiculous.
Uh huh.
Just let people navigate themselves.
Yes.
That's all I'm saying.
Just.
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Yep.
It's already hard enough for every single one of us.
Don't make it fucking harder.
Just.
I'm not doing anything.
I'm agreeing.
I'm agreeing.
I'm just agreeing.
With your statement.
You sound like you're stoned and you're trying not to be stoned so you can talk to someone.
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I'm not stoned.
I've been in that situation before.
Me too.
Totally haven't been on LST.
No, really good point.
It doesn't matter what sexuality.
And yeah, all types.
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You support your peeps.
Yes.
Yes.
Help people along.
Yep.
And don't judge them.
Yep.
That's it.
Some good words of wisdom to finish on.
I'll finish on you.
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We're going to cut to an end break.
Um, pull me back.
Chat about some music.
Just a moment.
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Welcome back to this week's episode of the Pain in Our Head podcast.
This week we've been talking about sexual health.
Yep.
And mental health.
How it all blends in, combines.
Didn't even do any sex stories.
No, but I didn't think, you know, you don't have any anyway.
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Got actually.
I've got two kids.
Where's your fucking evidence?
You make a good point.
Yeah.
So we're talking about that.
Anyway, that's been good.
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There's a lot of information out about that sort of thing.
I'm actually going to post.
There is, there's a lot.
I'm going to post the two things that we were having to look at.
Overwhelming.
In the description.
There is in the description this week.
So you can go have a peruse.
So that, you know, you can see the information we weren't just pulling from nowhere.
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So that's there.
That'll be up there.
What's been pretty been listened to this week?
Oh, we should talk about the offspring.
So fucking much this week.
It's painful.
There.
Usually is.
So the Offsprings album came out last Friday.
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You've listened to it all.
So have I.
I should hope so.
Did you like it?
Yeah.
Not like a start.
Like, you know, it's not one of those albums that you want to start going from like start to finish and thoroughly enjoy the shit out of every song.
But there's some good shit on it.
No, no, it was.
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Yeah, that's exactly right.
Not one of the best albums.
It'll probably grow on me the more I listen to it.
If I get into an offspring mood, I'll throw it on.
Not a shower.
That's exactly right.
If I can find the album, find the actual song that I liked.
There's one on there that I thought was just unbelievable.
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Fall Guy.
The Fall Guy.
Fall Guy.
Is there another one I thought I really liked?
I thought there was.
Dude, I've got so many songs that I've added since the last podcast.
It's fucking stupid.
Looking out for number one.
I enjoyed that too.
Yeah.
Yep.
Yep.
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Hanging by a thread.
I think that one was I think that one was good.
I can't remember.
I'll have to go through and listen to them again.
But it's pretty good.
I enjoyed listening to it.
But yeah.
I just looked at the album title for what I've been listening to.
What have you been listening to?
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What's the album?
Infant Annihilator released an EP yesterday, last night.
It's titled Mr. Sister Fister.
It fits.
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Yeah.
Yeah.
Mr. Sister Fister.
Is your sister single?
I've got two younger sisters, right?
Right.
And Tomo and Gumby and Jason actually and Vossie.
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All of them.
Whenever I'd have a story to say and it mentioned my family,
especially my sisters,
I'm like, I was chatting to my sister and all of them without fail.
Every fucking time would be like, which one?
The hot one?
That's terrible.
That's terrible.
Every time.
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That's awful.
Cause I knew it would burn me up.
That would boil you up.
That's why I ask if your sister's single.
Just to wind you up a little bit.
Don't bother me.
I could be your brother-in-law.
I'm not going to say what I want to say.
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I'll save that for after the podcast.
Anyway, Infant Annihilator.
Cool.
Nothing else to say about it.
It's good.
It's not the best.
Like the Battle of Yelberdoth.
It yelled at Yelda Beth.
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I think the last album that came out was fucking intense.
It's better than this, but I still enjoyed it.
But I did have a song.
It ties into this theme, which I haven't done in a fucking long time.
Tie a song into the theme.
Yeah.
Okay.
What's that?
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Other than Casual Sex.
Well, it's from that band.
It's My Darkest Days.
And it's Pornstar Dancing.
Because that song makes me feel like a dirty little bitch.
I just want to dry hump and grind everything in sight.
I don't know why.
It just does it to me.
It makes me feel real dirty.
Yeah, right.
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It's just got that groove to it.
Like it's got that fucking feel.
It's like, oh yeah.
Music can do that.
There's a lot of music that was designed for that purpose.
Yep.
To put you in the mood.
So.
Yeah.
It just really gets me fucking just makes me want to talk dirty and be a naughty little boy.
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Hmm. Hmm. Good for you.
Hmm. Hmm.
I play it before I send you a good morning, boys know.
Oh yeah, do you?
Yeah.
That's great.
Hmm.
Ben, you sent me a song.
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Don't remember.
The Browning? No.
We spoke about The Browning last week.
Did we speak about it last week?
Soul Drift by The Browning.
I'm pretty sure we did.
Hmm. I think we did.
I don't know if I'd listened to it.
No, you probably hadn't.
No, but I feel like you listened to it this week.
I've listened to it this week and that was cool.
Cool. Yeah.
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It's really cool.
Yeah.
Weird fucking blend that you wouldn't expect.
Weird. It is, but super cool.
Very electronic and super fucking heavy.
Yeah. Great mixing.
No, just enjoyed it. Just really enjoyed it.
Hmm. Yep.
It's good.
If I'm going to blend the song into the theme,
Sex Type Thing by Stone Temple Pilots.
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I like Stone Temple Pilots.
Yeah, Sex Type Thing.
That's a good song.
Are they the ones that do Dead and Bloated?
I think so.
Yes, they are.
Yeah.
Yes. Yes.
I like that song.
Yes. Yeah. Yeah.
That's from the core album.
Hmm.
Good song.
I like the purple album.
Yeah.
(48:29):
Yeah.
I like the blue, um, Interstate Love song.
Hmm.
It's a great fucking song.
Yeah.
There's so many bands that we could talk about for like,
sexual songs.
Like Steel Panther, every single song they've ever fucking written.
Yeah.
Yeah. Yep. Absolutely.
Eeps of Kiss songs.
Fucking Motley Crue.
Yeah.
Motley Crue.
Alice Cooper.
Like...
Yeah.
(48:50):
Alice Cooper.
We'll Hop for Teacher.
Meat Loaf.
Meat Loaf.
Yeah.
There's lots, lots of different songs.
Yeah.
About this topic.
Hmm.
Our parents were sluts.
Yeah.
This is all the music back from the 70s and the 80s.
That's all you did back then.
There's no internet.
That's why there's so many mistakes.
(49:11):
What the old glory hole.
But yeah, Interstate Love song by Stone Temple Pilots as well as Plush.
Love that song too.
Yeah.
I do like a fair few of their songs.
So, hmm.
I've listened to a few of those this week.
I've been listening to a bit of that sort of music actually this week from the 80s and the 90s.
(49:36):
Hmm.
Yeah.
That old stuff sort of gets me there.
I like it.
Hmm.
You know, old school kind of grunge.
Yeah.
Because I still am.
Grunge is probably...
There's not a lot of grunge these days.
Yeah, for good reason.
It phased out.
(49:57):
We got sick of it.
I didn't.
Sorry.
How many times did you hear like it's just a phase?
You'll grow out of it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No, I didn't.
I didn't.
I love grunge.
I still love grunge.
I wish it was...
I still miss the Minibo in metal.
I wish there was still more grunge music.
But there just isn't.
So, hmm.
(50:18):
How good was the year 2000 by Silverchair?
Yeah.
Yes, I love Silverchair.
Yeah, all that stuff.
Yep.
Hmm.
Even...
That was a good song.
Ah, there's another song that came up the other day.
Grinspoon.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Yep.
Yep.
Love me some Grinspoon.
(50:39):
So, yeah, no, sort of blast from the past listening to some of that stuff.
And yes, I've been listening to more SIDA.
Yeah.
It's good.
The album's good.
I'm enjoying it.
You know what ever floats your boat, buddy.
Yeah, no, that's it.
So, yeah, more of that.
But...
Have you had sex to it?
I don't even know what I've had sex to, to be honest.
(51:02):
I don't really listen to music while I have sex, I tend to get stuck in the fucking beat.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's a problem for me as a drummer.
Yeah.
Just as a musician in general, I think.
I just lock in on that shit.
No, I'm locked in.
It's like you enjoy the ride because if Mordor Shaw comes on, we're both gonna fucking die.
(51:29):
I've got you for three minutes.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So, for now, some good music.
Good music.
But no, that's all I've been listening to.
There's nothing else that I know of on my radar that's coming out, so...
No, not really.
(51:51):
Not sure.
The Devin Townsend album's coming out still, I guess ages away I think though.
They released a new track from it.
I still haven't listened to that, I should.
I really do like Devin Townsend.
It's gonna be a good album, I already feel it.
Like from the three tracks that have dropped, I think that'll be it.
That'll be the only track that'll drop for it.
Yeah, exactly.
(52:12):
Usually only two or three from an album.
So, but yeah, no, fucking great.
I don't remember the song title, but yeah, all three tracks have been really enjoyable.
Yep.
I'm very, very excited for that because I fucking love Devin Townsend.
Came for that.
Yeah.
I've seen him live in Brisbane.
(52:33):
That's cool.
That would've been awesome.
Yeah, they played it...
I don't remember the name of the venue, but it was like an old...
It was in a city, but it was like an old airport hangar.
Oh.
Old airport hangar.
Yeah.
Hmm.
(52:56):
Give me like fucking a minute, I reckon I'll have it.
I don't even know of any off the top of my head that...
Nothing comes to mind.
Boy, looking at that.
Another band that I've got to be out listening to some of their music this week.
(53:21):
Alice in Chains.
Man in the Box.
Yeah.
Yep.
That's all I've been listening to.
Hmm.
Yep.
Apparently he was here in 23.
Oh, really?
(53:50):
And more theatre?
Oh, yeah.
Yep.
Is this still going?
I don't know.
Hmm.
Oh.
Check it out.
Let us know.
Animal Theatre?
Does that sound about right?
Yeah, that sounds right.
I don't think I've ever been there.
(54:11):
Hmm.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I couldn't tell you.
That can't be it either.
It doesn't look right.
I don't know.
Fuck it.
There's a cool fucking venue anyway.
Hmm.
I enjoyed it.
I got to see Devin.
(54:32):
I was happy as fuck.
I love Devin.
He's got such an amazing stage performance too.
Yeah, really?
His strange presence is great.
He's just, like you've seen the live videos of him.
He just talks and interacts and he's just enjoying himself.
It's fucking great.
Yep.
I love performances like that.
Hmm.
Yep.
We were talking about it at work.
Today's Wednesday.
(54:54):
It must have been the end of the week, end of last week we were talking about it.
Yeah.
One of the guys was saying that, yeah, they went and saw Mark Knopfler.
Oh.
And they reckon it was boring as hell.
Yeah, it would have been boring as hell, but no, I still would have gone.
I still would have loved it.
Fuck it.
That's what I said.
I was like, well, he's not a stage performer.
(55:15):
He's just a really fucking talented musician.
You're there to experience the music.
Yeah.
You're there to watch his fingers on the guitar because that's the definition of sex.
That's, he's unbelievable.
Yeah.
Well, yep.
Unbelievable.
Bad joke there.
That's done, stopped you before.
(55:38):
I just want to be bad.
I don't think I've even brought up the diastrates before.
I love diastrates.
I don't think we have.
No.
Love diastrates.
Money for nothing.
Walk of life.
Brothers in arms.
Salt and the swing.
Salt and the swing is probably my favorite album.
That's my album song.
Song.
Yeah.
(55:59):
You've seen me cover that.
I have.
I have.
The intro to Money for Nothing.
That fucking drum fill.
And then when the guitar just like cuts in with that little bit of a like squeak, it's
like, wha-bam, ba-bam-bam.
It's like, oh, fuck.
(56:20):
Oh, fuck it.
Oh, yeah.
That's sex.
That intro is sex.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yep.
And they're really good.
Do like diastrates.
Yeah.
Arknofle is fucking amazing.
Arknofle is amazing.
Yeah.
Envious of how well he can play the guitar.
(56:42):
Well, Salt and the swing, he finger picks that, doesn't he?
I'm pretty sure like the guitar solo, he finger picks.
Yeah, I'm actually 100% sure.
I'm fucking sure I watched the video while it was, now we're talking about, yeah, like
actually like finger picks like the whole solo.
Yeah, well.
Almost to the song, I think.
(57:03):
Yeah, cool shit.
Oh, there you go.
I actually don't think I knew that.
Hmm.
Oh, that's it.
That's it from me.
That's it from us.
No idea what we're talking about this week.
This was a surprise this week.
I hope you enjoyed this, listening to us ramble on about this topic.
Next week, we've got no idea.
(57:25):
But come next week, I think we're going to have a good idea of what the next few is going
to look like.
We've got a best of coming.
So look out for that.
Best of, episodes one to 26.
You can.
It's probably just going to be reflected on Caleb.
Yeah, it's basically what it is.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's just short little snippets of you picking on me.
(57:46):
So look forward to that.
Otherwise, that's it from me and Nips today.
We'll catch you next week.
It's okay to not be okay.
Tits out for the boys.
Bye.
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