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September 15, 2024 • 59 mins

In this weeks episode of The Pain In Our Head Podcast, Caleb & Christian face their fears and talk about some hilarious phobia stories. This week they also discuss some newly found music, Linkin Park, and a terrifying cockroach story.

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(00:44):
Welcome to this week's episode of the Pain in Our Head podcast.
Hello!
Got a lot to chat about this week.
We're going to talk about phobias and mental health.
We're going to chat about some new music that I came across today.

(01:04):
Chris is probably going to talk about something as well.
And I think we're probably going to touch on Linkin Park today as well.
I'd say it's probably a good idea.
Have a good lengthy chat about that.
Change my opinion on that.
Okay, fair enough.
It's good.
I'm excited for the chat that we'll have about it.

(01:26):
So yeah, lots to talk about today.
Very excited.
I don't know, I'm just, I came for this chat.
I came for our, I was just going to ask what it was about.
I just, I was trying to find a way around it.
I was like, there's going to be something else that I can ask.

(01:50):
I just couldn't, I was trying to think of the spotlight.
There's going to be something else.
I came up with something earlier today and I completely forgot about it.
It's a shame because I had something really good ready for you.
How's your week been this week, Christian?
Fuck off.
There we go.
That's how good it's been.
Well done.
Yeah, excellent.
Excellent.

(02:11):
That's good.
Let's move on.
Yeah, I had something earlier.
I thought about it earlier.
I was prepared, didn't write it down and now I've completely forgotten.
So yeah.
Well, we had a good weekend.
How many wins on PUBG did we get?
How many deaths did we go?
Yeah, so many.
I lost count.
Hmm.
Haven't got enough fingers to count.

(02:33):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, you are a drummer.
So I guess once it gets past four, you're up shit creek.
That's it.
So it's just go one, two, three, four, and then it just goes back to one, three, three,
four.
Hmm.
Exactly.
It's going to hit you something even better, but it's fine.
Oh, fucking hell.
Go on.
No, I want it now.
Oh, you do want it?

(02:53):
All right.
Well, how many do you reckon we racked up?
10.
10?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, 10.
It's not bad.
That's more chicken dinners than you have teeth.
You wanted it.
I thought it was going to be something about vocalists, not something fucking personal

(03:21):
out of my control.
And I have more than 10 teeth.
I'm only missing fucking three of my back ones.
And I just thought I'd hit you with that today.
That was good.
I came up with all the spot and everything.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Hmm.
Picking on something I'm self-conscious about.
That's your body.
That's not what I wanted to bring it up.
But that's like how I've done it.

(03:42):
No, it's just done.
You're a piece of shit and everyone knows it now.
I'm in trouble.
Hmm.
Anyway, phobias.
I got a phobia that my best friend's going to pick on my body image.
When don't I?

(04:08):
Oh, yeah.
I actually saw a reel about that, but when I was walking in the door, I just flicking
through Instagram on my way to the room.
And it was like, you think you can hurt me, but I've got a best friend who picks on me
and abuses me every day for fun.
And I was just like, yep.

(04:33):
I've seen a similar one where it's like, yeah, you think your words can hurt me, but I used
to hold a torch for my dad when he was working on the car.
And I was just like, yep.
That's why I hold the torch for my brother while working on the car.
That's scary.
I could imagine.
That's scary.
I could imagine, man.
That's scary.

(04:54):
Yeah, I'm not a very good torch holder.
It's got nothing to do with your brother at all.
No, I do.
I get distracted, especially with like, I'm using my phone torch and all of a sudden a
reel will pop up and I'll go to that reel and I'll start moving it around.
You're an asshole.

(05:16):
Yeah, I'm terrible at it.
Anyway, phobias.
Before we even chat about phobias, we've each got a phobia that we know about.
And I'd say they're pretty common among most people, lots of different people.

(05:39):
They're probably pretty common phobias to have.
What did you say?
I don't know.
I don't know if mine particularly is, but...
This is a bit different.
I don't know.
I don't think it's uncommon, but I don't think it's like a super common one.
Not as common as mine.

(06:02):
No, no.
Yours is super common.
No, no.
Every second person.
You're a person, bitch.
Yeah, that's exactly right.
Every second person is petrified of spiders.
And I hate them.
Not me.
The other morning, was it yesterday morning?
No, it might have even been this morning.
Wasn't it the weekend?
Well, there was one on the weekend as well.

(06:24):
They just followed me around.
Tell the weekend one.
The weekend one.
It's a good one.
It is a good one.
You and your big brave girlfriend.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like if someone wears a pants in your relationship.
I look good in a skirt, alright.
Me too.
I rolled up to Taylor's and I've walked halfway down the hallway and on one of the door frames

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leading into the hallway.
This one wasn't that big.
I probably didn't have to react as badly as I did.
There's a big fuck-off huntsman.
They're sitting there looking at me, trying to get past.
Didn't want to get past.
You shall not pass.
Just got a little Gandalf hat on.

(07:17):
Yeah, I just stood there and screamed at Taylor and asked her to come and deal with it before
I walked past.
To which she responded, don't be a little bitch, just walk through.
Do you reckon I walked through?
No.
No, I fucking sprinted through.
I haven't moved that quick in fucking weeks.

(07:42):
I'm talking like the biggest strides that I could do and I've only got short legs as
you can imagine.
I reckon I've done like two long jump leaps and I've just gone about five meters in 0.001
seconds.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You would have put like Olympic athletes to shame in your 10-meter dash.

(08:03):
Oh yeah.
It's the most instant teleport.
I would win gold.
I would win gold.
Serious.
Put a fucking spider behind me and I'm winning gold.
I've told you about the time I've gotten into the shower one day.
This is when I was younger, a teenager.
I've gotten into the shower one day.
I shit you not.

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One of the sides of my fucking hand is in the corner of the shower.
I went, nah.
Water's still running.
I ran straight out of the shower, straight out of the bathroom.
I've just gotten to a particular state that I ran outside, front door and down the street

(08:45):
before I realized I was still fucking naked.
I'm not talking like just two, I'm not talking two houses down.
I'm talking down the street, way downtown.

(09:07):
This is like four o'clock in the afternoon after school and here I am just doing this
walk of shame with my bloody hands on my fucking nuts just walking down the street and slowly
back up the stairs.
The worst part is I had to explain to mum why the fuck I was running down the street

(09:32):
naked when I got back.
Because you're a little bitch.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Just fuck that Ed.
I think it was this morning or it was yesterday morning.
You've never told me that.
Have I never told you that story?
No.
Oh shit.
I'm glad I saved it for the broadcast.

(09:57):
Need a minute?
I'm good.
I couldn't believe it.
I couldn't believe it.
Oh man.
I'm serious.
I'm dead serious.
I want this to be a fake story, but it is not fake.
I can just see you running down the street, your little fucking dick flopping in the floor.

(10:19):
And then that fucking embarrassed walk of shame.
You just fucking little cupping over your crotch.
It's like, oh shit.
Did you do like one on your nuts and one on your bum?
Nah, I just left the bum there.
It was all there for the world to see.

(10:41):
I've been made some pedos day.
You arrived just in time.
Oh, hey, crush.

(11:03):
I'm terrified.
Absolutely terrified.
Yeah.
Anyway, this morning I might've walked out to the back bins and out the dock picking
industrial bins.
And it was just one fuck off on sitting there.
I was walking over to see my boss, talk to my boss.
And all of a sudden I've done like, instead of walking straight to her, all of a sudden
just done a big fucking turn.
She's like, what the fuck are you doing?
I was like, there's a fucking spider on the ground.

(11:27):
God.
And she's like, what the fuck?
Terrified.
Terrified.
Yeah.
Your nudie story reminded me.
We had a friend growing up, like a family friend, and they lived on a farm.
It was a cane farm.
And so it was her father-in-law's farm.

(11:49):
And they had like a little farmhouse built in the middle of it.
So the father-in-law lived in like the main farmhouse, but then they had this little tiny little thing they built for anyway.
And so the cane train line that ran through the middle of the farm was literally like their front yard.

(12:10):
Okay.
And so she was sleeping one night and the cane trains rolling through.
And she had like a nightmare because of the noise that, you know, the cane train had derailed.
It was going through the fucking house.
And so she's just like jumped out of bed and fucking ran out of the house.

(12:31):
But naked as the cane trains just rolled past the house on the line, not derailed.
And she's just standing there fully fucking naked for the cane train drivers.
They gave a little boop boop.
Hong Kong.
It's amazing.
I was so young when they told us that story, you know, I still remember it.

(12:56):
Yeah, right.
That's a good story.
Good story.
Although all the good all nudie fucking run stories are gold.
Accidental nudity.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Great stories behind them usually.
I think I've got any accidental nudities.

(13:18):
No, this would have been on purpose.
Someone would have said you won't run through that field nude.
You would have just gone, oh yeah.
Oh yeah.
Bang.
Watch me.
Hmm.
No fucking.
I can't think of any time of an accidental nudity.

(13:41):
Do you ever have bad dreams when you were like, you know, I school that you'd roll into school like some reason you'd gotten to put fucking clothes on.
Never that I did.
I did. I did split my pants real bad when I was delivering for Coles.
I had to go back.
I had to go home and get a new pair of pants.

(14:03):
I'm like pulled up at this guy's house.
He's a regular.
I pulled up at this guy's house and I like squatted down to pick these like I had a six stack of crates and like I scored it down fucking ground on them.
Went to stand up stood up wrong and just completely tall the fucking like crotch to fucking back of my pants.
I completely just split them like the fucking you know Moses part of the C's and I just fucking squatted there.

(14:28):
Just laughing with fucking everything hanging in the breeze.
Oh my goodness.
We're underwear.
I don't do like an awkward delivery.
I got to the door and the guy's just like you right.
He's like all I could hear was you laughing and I was like yeah I just fucking tore the cunt out of my pants like everything's just kind of hanging.

(14:50):
It's like nice.
He's like do you need some pants and I was like no I'm gonna go home and get some new ones.
So I went home and yeah I'm completely blown the asshole out of these pants.
I think that happened to a guy at work the other day last week.

(15:11):
It's probably pretty common in that sort of job.
Yeah.
Fucking awesome.
Oh well.
That was the funniest thing in the world just squatting down all of a sudden my fucking dick and balls are hanging out.
I told you the other week I fell out of the back of the truck.

(15:34):
Yeah yeah.
Yeah yeah I got to see video footage of that today.
Oh yeah.
You look like an absolute dickhead.
Nice.
Shocking.
So bad.
It's embarrassing.
So you're phobia.
Tell us a story.

(15:55):
What should I tell her?
Come on.
Not the first one.
The second one where we were in the pool party the other night.
I feel like I need to tell the first one.
Just yeah.
Yeah.
All right.
So my phobia is zombies.

(16:21):
Like I'm fucking terrified of them.
Like proper terrified of them.
Like my heart rate goes through the roof.
I start like borderline panic attacking.
It's fucking horrible.
I still put myself through it because I love watching zombie movies and TV shows and games and all that sort of shit.

(16:42):
And it absolutely kills me inside.
And as the guys found out sometimes it gets the better of me.
I was playing PUBG with Krug and I had no fucking idea what was coming because.
There was no fucking news about it.
No nothing.

(17:04):
And normally PUBG is just a shooter game against other players.
Human fucking players.
And there was a new big shipping container that dropped out of the sky with a parachute.
I was like fuck yeah.
New loot.
All right.
So I went to get this loot and as I approached the shipping container.
It buckled from the inside out.

(17:25):
I was like what the fuck is that?
I took like two steps forward and the sides all four sides completely blew out and zombies come rushing at me.
And the ungodly noises that came out of my mouth were quite embarrassing.
Krug was almost in tears.
And so was I.

(17:47):
I had literal tears running down my face.
I couldn't control myself.
I couldn't get words out.
I just I almost shit my pants.
Because of zombies in the game.
Fast forward to the weekend.
And we were playing the same game.
And we had to go to the hospital for a mission.

(18:10):
I was like fuck it.
All right let's go.
And there's like a new underground section added.
So I was like I'm not fucking going in there.
I know what's going to happen.
I don't want anything to do with this.
Fuck you guys.
No.
I can feel my heart like ready to jump out of my chest.
Even like thinking about going down them steps.
All the three guys went in there.

(18:31):
They explored around.
And that's all good.
It's fine.
And so I was like OK.
I can go look in there too then.
Because I didn't want to miss out.
So I went down there.
Yeah.
It was fun.
I went in there.
I was having a little peek around.
Everyone's just doing their own thing.
Wandering around.
And there was like these big.
Fuck you Caleb.

(18:53):
These big like cylinders with green fluid in them.
And I was like what the fuck is.
I was like oh it must be like you know.
Must be like bodies in there or something.
Like doing experiments.
And obviously they're painting a story here.
And I like get up nice and close.
And I'm like looking at the zombie floating in the fucking.
In the tank.

(19:15):
And I'm just like in my head I'm like oh man imagine if this fucking tank burst out.
Like the bloody shipping container did like I'd fucking die.
And just as I thought went through my head.
Gumby decided to shoot the fucking container.
Right above my head.
Out of nowhere.
And I fucking shit.
I couldn't fucking do anything.

(19:38):
I just I panicked so goddamn hard.
I couldn't even get fucking words out.
And the noise that came out of my mouth that time.
Was also fucking ungodly.
It was like a seal having a fucking orgasm.
I didn't calm down for like the rest of that match.

(19:59):
My heart was just like trying to kill me from the inside.
It was fucking horrible.
I had tears in my eyes.
I did.
I jumped.
I jumped that fucking hard.
Because I got a wireless mouse.
I had my head.
I like jumped like that.
And it like flicked my fucking mouse off the desk.
And I fucking almost put my neck out.

(20:21):
I like jolted that hard.
It's amazing.
That's so good.
Thanks buddy.
So you wouldn't do so well going through like one of those walkthrough experiences.
Like I've been through like movie world usually do them.

(20:46):
If you're on the Gold Coast.
They'll do like a Fright Night thing.
And there was a zombie thing.
I would actually kill someone.
Yeah, yeah, there's one that I went.
Unintentionally but.
The only one that I could go through and not be terrified.
I'd cry.
I'd piss and shit myself.
I'd punch someone.

(21:07):
Like someone would jump out as a zombie and try to scare me and I'd just fucking haul out and hit them and then cry.
It'd be disgusting.
It'd be wrong.
So I avoid that shit.
I couldn't imagine.
I think nothing would make me more satisfied.
Than taking you through one of those.

(21:28):
Because you've got to go in and you've got to hold the shoulders of the person in front of you.
And then someone behind you is going to hold onto your shoulders.
My heart is racing.
My heart is racing just thinking about that scenario.
Like I fuck you.
No.
Go around corners and shit.
Now I do one fucking bad one.

(21:49):
I went through one.
It might have been.
What's that terrifying Australian movie?
The Outback.
Wolf Creek.
Yeah.
That's it.
I think it was based around that or something like that.
It wasn't too bad.
We're going through it all.
It's fine.
We get to the end.
And you go through the last door and you can see the light on the other side.

(22:12):
The other door.
You sort of see the little curtain.
You're like, cool.
We're done.
And in this room was just one kind of like a car.
Like a burnt out sort of car.
Like proper real size cars.
You sort of just walk around it and you're off Scott Free.
When you get in line with the bonnet of the car and you're halfway in that room,

(22:36):
all of a sudden some kind of jumps out from behind the car with a real chainsaw.
I think I think a flu.
I think I think I'm like my feet were off the ground.
Before I knew it, I was going through that door to the other side.

(23:01):
Yeah.
You're on your own.
I haven't got to be fast.
I just got to be faster than you.
Even better is because we're in such a state we didn't want to go anywhere afterwards.
We're just standing outside taking a breath.
We've turned around.
We're chatting about it.

(23:22):
We're looking at like the exit.
The next group that came through, two guys at the front,
ran so fast they fell over each other out the door.
Yeah.
Top notch.
Really well done.
Really well done.
Yeah.

(23:44):
Anyway, I used to like it was always my job growing up to take the rubbish out to the bins.
Okay.
I set land speed records.
Not even joking.
Mum and dad used to think it was the funniest shit in the world because it'd be like, oh, you're going to take the bins out.

(24:05):
Or it's like, are you going to take the rubbish out to the bins?
And like, no, I would.
They used to like, I remember that sometimes just for laughs, they'd turn the back light off.
Once I got to the garbage bins and went to put the rubbish in, they'd turn the fucking light off and watch me sprint like a little bitch back to the house.

(24:33):
If you're watching this episode, mum and dad, I still fucking remember that.
Fuck you.
Trouble.
Yeah, I never used to like taking the trash out at night either.
Even now, I'll try and do it as soon as I get home from work.

(24:56):
So I avoid doing it out like after dark.
Not because I'm scared of anything in the dark.
I'm actually more afraid of spiders out there that I'm going to walk into a web.
I can't see where I'm going.
Yeah, that sucks.
That's a terrible feeling.
Oh, my fucking fear.
Yeah, like spider.
Oh, you're fucking about that shit.

(25:18):
Yeah, no, just walking through a web.
There's been times.
Why did a redback crawl over my foot?
No.
It's a redback and I flicked it off.
No, that's gross.
That's terrible.
I've had times where I've taken my shirt off and I'm shaking it out and I'm doing like these ones all over myself, like trying to get the shit off.

(25:42):
You feel like a tag rubbing against the back once you put your shirt back on.
You're just like, wow!
Your fucking shirt's back off again.
It's happened before.
Because you're so on edge.
After you get freaked out like that, like everything, you're just like hyper sensitive to everything.
It's like, is that a fucking spider?
Yeah, yeah, exactly.

(26:04):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, it's crazy.
I was just reading the first line, an object that triggers a phobia.
You may know that a spider isn't poisonous or that it won't bite you, but this still doesn't reduce your anxiety around it.
Right?
Yeah, it's like, I know that zombies aren't fucking real, but it doesn't stop me from turning into a blubbering bitch.

(26:29):
Yeah, yeah.
Absolutely not.
It's crazy, yeah.
And now it gets different people too with different things, like heights, like fear of heights.
How many people have spoken to that said, oh yeah, I've got a fear of heights, I won't go on that rollercoaster, I won't go on the balcony?
I knew a chick, and she was terrified of werewolves.

(26:52):
Right, okay.
One of her co-workers thought that she was like, you know, they found out that she was afraid of werewolves and they thought it'd be a funny joke.
Oh no.
And they changed her background for a computer at work to a big picture of a werewolf.
So when she got to work, logged into a computer, hit enter, the first thing that popped up was a fucking werewolf at the screen.

(27:18):
And she ended up having to take the day off because she just completely like shit breaks and broke down.
Holy shit.
That's terrible.
That's crazy.
I'd be the same though, like 100%.
If someone pulled like a good zombie prank on me, I'd probably be up for assault charges or going home on fucking stress leave.

(27:45):
And like, I'm not trying to be a tough guy either, like that would just be like my legitimate reaction.
Oh, that's it.
I'd just need to like fall out and like defend myself.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, you've heard about it.
Like in those mazes and stuff, we were talking about those experiences, those walkthroughs, like imagine how many of those actors have been, had the lights knocked out of them just because someone's gotten so frightened that their flight and response has just been triggered and they've just reacted.

(28:12):
So crazy.
Like fight or flight and I've got nowhere to fucking flight.
Unless in my case where I did fly.
Fly like an eagle.

(28:34):
So unless you've, you've probably caught on, but a phobia is a type of anxiety disorder.
It's an extreme form of fear triggered by a particular situation or an object.
So that sums up a phobia.
And generally like speaking to like a phobia is more intense than just having a fear of something like if someone says they have phobia or something, it's normally like, you know, like it was like we both excite

(29:03):
like, yeah, very strongly have a panic attack.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right.
Yeah.
So like, cause you know, you can have a fear of heights or you can have a phobia of heights.
It's like, you know, a fear of heights might be that you climbed to the top of the ladder and you're like, oh, this is a bit, you know, my heart's a little bit elevated.

(29:25):
Like this is a bit nervous for me. And then you got people with a phobia who may end up like shaking the ladder down because they're so fucking nervous and terrified.
And yeah, it's crazy. Yeah.
Anything from shit in your pants to falling on the ground crying and everything in between.

(29:51):
Yes. So there's so many different types of phobias.
Like I really, we're not going to be able to go and talk through the wall, but there's ridiculous amounts.
You've got ones that are in regards to like environment, so environmental phobias.
You got body based phobias.

(30:13):
That's it. Yeah. Like people who are like, you know, have phobias with like getting a needle injection. I'm going to throw one Taylor under the bus here.
I hope she listens to this episode.
And she talk about needle fears.
She can't do it. She can't do it. No.
I got like traumatized. I'd never had a problem with needles.

(30:36):
And then Kim had to do a nail surgery. I had a really bad ingrown that wouldn't go away. So she had to do a nail surgery.
And when she did this nail surgery to numb my big toe, there's like two, two nerve points that need to be numbed out and like ones like underneath your toe and ones on top of your toe.

(30:57):
And she's like, all right, you know, I'm going to start the injection now.
I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah. So she put the needle in, in the bottom. And I was like, yeah, yeah, yep.
And she's like, all right, I'm just going to like push through and get the top one.
I was like, what? And she just like straight up through my toe.
I didn't feel it, but I could fucking see it.

(31:20):
And I fucking fainted.
I felt the blood just go, and you know, that like that sensation in the back of your mouth when you're about to fucking vomit.
I got all of it and I was just like, and from like then on, every time someone even mentioned a fucking needle, I just start sweating.

(31:46):
I could feel my mouth start to get ready to vomit. I could feel like the blood start to drain.
And I can't forbid it was me getting the fucking needle. It was just like, I started having to tick the box.
Like, do you faint or experience dizziness with injections? I'm like, yep.
And then, yeah, it's like, fuck, even when Aria was like born and, you know, after a couple of months, they're going to get their first injections and shit.

(32:12):
Like I couldn't even look. I couldn't even fucking look when she was getting her injections done.
Like Kim thought it was the funniest thing in the world. She's like, it's my husband.
Like, you know, he faints.
I'm just like, oh shit.
But you're fine with tattoos.

(32:34):
Same tattoos as the same.
I don't get it.
And piercings.
Yeah.
You got to give me a needle and fucking it's on like Donkey Kong.
Oh, gosh, that's good. Well done. Good story.

(32:55):
You never told me that before.
How have I never told you that one?
No, you haven't told me that.
I'm good now. I've had needles since then and I'm okay with it.
Like, it still gets my heart up, but yeah, I've gotten over it.
I wouldn't say I had a phobia. I just had a fear of needles.
Fear for a while. Yeah.
I was to be for a little bit there watching that needle go right through.

(33:16):
I was just like, oh, that's insane.
Yeah. Yeah. So as I said, the body based phobia is so yeah, anyone doesn't, you know, people who faint at the sight of blood and things like that.
Et cetera, et cetera.
I don't leave my hand like that. He was our first aid officer.
Anyway, he was our first aid officer.

(33:39):
I cut my finger.
I cut my finger and it whoop. No way.
Did he go over?
Nearly. Nearly went over, man.
He had to like fucking, he wouldn't look at me.
He's just like reaching like reaching through, like giving me the fucking first aid supplies, not looking at me.
He's like, hey, fix it, fix it.
And I'm just like fucking gushing blood everywhere.

(34:04):
I was just like, whoopsie.
Because that's, I don't know if I've got a scar on that finger.
Yeah, from it.
It was a bad one.
Yeah. Okay.
It was a bad cut.
Yep. Yep.
But yeah, it was a fucking shocker.
Oh, shit.
Crazy.

(34:26):
Social phobias as well.
Yep.
Yep. But we've kind of touched on social phobias.
Yeah, like stage fright, the public speaking and the large crowds.
Yeah. All that sort of stuff.
Even intimate situations too, like one on one situations.
Having a phobia of that.
Yeah. Yeah. Yep.
It took a long time for me to overcome.

(34:48):
I think it was a, not so much as a phobia, but it was a fear.
So something I had to work through.
But yeah, definitely a tricky one to get over the top of.
Yeah.
Symptoms.
Spoken about a few.
We've spoken about a few that you could shit your pants.
You could cry.
Your heart rate goes up.

(35:10):
Trembling, shaking.
Hot or cold flushes.
Nausea, dizziness or diarrhea.
Chest pain or tightness in the chest.
Oh, yeah.
That was the second one where Gumby shot that tank.
Yeah.
Shaking.
Yeah.

(35:31):
Yeah.
Wow.
Oh shit.
And you all thought it was the funniest fucking prank in the world.
It was pretty funny when we went back though and like locked ourselves in that.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
There's no way.
I walked in and I was like, I wonder if I close this.
Does he walk past it?

(35:52):
I was like, there's no way.
Right.
And then I wondered how long before you and Craig would pick up on it.
I was like, I don't know.
I just, you picked up on it.
You lost it.
That was great.
So yeah, you can feel a lot of stress.
If, you know, if a phobia comes up with a situation or an object or whatever it might be that triggers your phobia, you'll feel, you can feel stressed.

(36:15):
Anxiety, embarrassment, overwhelmed, depression.
Oh, look, it's almost like we've talked about every single one of these things on an episode.
Yes. Yeah. Being overwhelmed a couple of weeks ago, embarrassment. We haven't got embarrassment.
It could be a good topic.
Anxiety and depression.
So, yeah.
Oh, what's going on?

(36:36):
Oh, Twisted's message of me.
Oh, is he?
Yeah. I forgot to close Steam down.
Oh, yeah.
Causes of phobia.
We've kind of touched on it, but you can have past incidents or traumas.
So, it's hard to narrow down where I've got the phobia of spiders from.

(37:01):
I think learned responses from early life.
I think old man's petrophilic or got a phobia of spiders as well.
So I think that was kind of just passed down, I guess, almost like a genetic weird.
Yeah. I'll just say genetic factors is one of them.
It does too. There you go.

(37:22):
Genetic factors, reactions and responses to panic or fear and experiencing long term stress.
So all that sort of stuff.
We're going way well and truly over our chat, but treatment and self-care for phobias.
It all just comes down to the things we've talked about in the past.

(37:44):
Talk to someone.
Yeah. Coping methods for panic attacks, which we've talked about a little bit in different episodes.
So just realising. It's all about not putting yourself in that situation, right?
I'm not going to go walking through trees that are really close together in the middle of the night

(38:05):
because I know that I'll probably walk through a web and some spiders and that'll trigger my fear.
So I'm going to avoid it and I'll stick to the footpath.
I like that one of the treatments is like exposure therapy.
Gradually exposing you to the object or situation you fear and carrying it out in a safe and controlled way.

(38:28):
So like, use an example of the dentist. If you've got a fear of the dentist, you can read about the dentist.
You look at pictures of a dentist chair or you can sit in the waiting room without an appointment or talk to the dentist.
And then finally, you know, go to the dentist.
And I'm like, I expose myself to zombie shit all the time and I'm still fucking terrified.

(38:52):
And I'm never going to meet a zombie to fucking like face it.
So I did this to me when I was a kid because I had a phobia.
I've had a phobia since I was younger. She sat me down at the computer.
She goes, right, we're going to get you out of this phobia. And she did that. Exposed me to it.
She's like, here's- I'm going to get- she made me read about it.

(39:16):
And I was like, cool, don't give a shit. Then started showing me photos.
And I was like, yep, still fucking scared.
I remember that. I used to be like nervous around the serrated edge on Gladwrap containers.
Really? Yeah, right.

(39:39):
I used to be nervous that I'd cut myself on it.
And dad was like, stop being a little bitch. Like, give me your fucking finger.
And he like grabbed my finger and like put it on there.
And it didn't cut me. But what did fucking cut me was I panicked and reefed my fucking hand back and just serrated it across the fuck.

(40:02):
That's like a bitch.
Fuck you, dad.
That's great.
I remember that too. You pricked that was in a Vogue road.
That's great. That's amazing.
Anyway, that's basically all I got to say on Phobia is just-

(40:26):
Oh, I have phobia in Magpies too.
Yeah, we've heard that story.
Yeah, yeah. Fucking Magpies, you shiters.
I remember, I got one little update to that story.
I remember after I got the shit swooped out of me, I was that fucking terrified.
I'd been sent down to the corner store on my pushy to get bread and milk in the morning before school.

(40:49):
And on the way back home, I got swooped and I was that fucking terrified.
I was like hiding in this person's yard. It was like a two story house.
And I was like hiding under like the little awning of their driveway, their garage.
And like dad came past and he like laughed at me.

(41:10):
That's great.
I wanted to know why I was taking so long.
Because I've been pinned down by a fucking Magpie, you prick.
Fucking parents.

(41:32):
Ah, yeah. Yeah.
Do your kids have any phobias?
No, I'm not sure what I'm aware of.
Interesting.
I'm braver than I am.
I recall a time I probably, it wasn't me, but I was in a, I recall a time where someone was given a phobia on that particular day.

(41:56):
I was working in a cafe. I was doing cash job on the weekend.
I was working coffee and the other lady was doing whatever she was doing, like food and she was doing milkshakes.
One day she does a chocolate milkshake, serves it up to the guy.

(42:17):
And about a couple of minutes later, guy walks back up to the counter with his milkshake, dumps it on the bench, doesn't say a word and walks away.
We had a look at the milkshake.
She had blended a cockroach up in that milkshake.

(42:43):
Yep. And there was little bits of cockroach all through the milkshake.
Little legs, little fucking body. Yep.
She obviously hadn't had a look in the cup.
Ice cream straight on top of it, chocolate milk blended, served.
I bet that guy has never ordered a milkshake to date.

(43:07):
Yuck.
On that note, a word from El Caleb.
Welcome back to this week's episode of the Pain in Our Head podcast.

(43:31):
Thanks for listening to this week's episode.
We've been chatting about phobias. We've had a good laugh.
There's been some great stories that I haven't heard before and some stories that I haven't told before.
It's been good, but we're going to have to revisit phobias at some stage, I think.
It's been too enjoyable for all the wrong reasons.

(43:52):
I've really enjoyed laughing at your fears and your moments of sheer panic.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, terrifying.
I totally went out and told my housemate your story about you running down the street.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
I was in tears.
Again?
Yep.

(44:14):
Good, eh?
It's embarrassing. Very embarrassing.
We should do an episode on embarrassment.
I've got a fair few stories there.
Oh yeah.
Let's chat about music.
Lincoln Park.

(44:36):
Yeah, new singer.
Came out, yeah, and announced a new singer.
And a new song came out. A new album's coming.
New album announced.
That's cool. We've talked about Lincoln Park on the podcast before.
Safe to say that I'm a fan of their music.
Exciting.

(44:59):
I didn't like the new song at first.
I didn't like her singing previous Lincoln Park songs.
I was just like, eh.
I'm not really doing it for me.
But it's kind of grown on me, the new song.

(45:20):
And they did a live premiere early this morning.
It's like a whole hour and a bit of live with her fronting the band.
Doing a bunch of old Lincoln Park songs and the new one.
She did pretty well.

(45:42):
I think originally I was just like, she sounds nothing like Chester.
Yeah.
But that's not the point.
No.
They're not trying to get someone.
Because there's a million people out there.
Not a million.
There's a lot of people out there that sound exactly like Chester.

(46:04):
Or do just as well.
I think they maybe made a good choice by not choosing someone that sounds like Chester.
And then having fans and friends jump up and down.
Disrespecting his memory.
Yeah, sort of taking it maybe a little bit more of a different direction.

(46:27):
Because it's been a while since the band has released music.
Seven years.
Seven years since Chester.
Yeah.
So it's almost like a new band but not in a way.
Do you think they could have changed the name?

(46:49):
Or do you think keeping the name was just a way to go?
Because I was thinking about that today.
Yeah, I saw someone commented.
They were like, you know, Linkin Park existed before Chester.
Hmm.
And Linkin Park will continue past Chester.

(47:11):
And even Chester himself, there's a quote from him saying that they wanted to make something
where Linkin Park wasn't solely around the personalities in the band.
It was the music.
So yeah, just because someone drops out or something happens doesn't mean the band dies.

(47:32):
No, well, I mean there are countless examples of band members moving on.
And the band name staying exactly the same.
Not changing.
Suicide Silence.
Their lead singer died in a motorbike accident and they got the lead singer from All Shell Perish.

(47:55):
Still releasing music as Suicide Silence.
I can't say I really like the direction they went with the new singer.
He was great in All Shell Perish but I think he sucks ass as the lead singer for Suicide Silence.
Okay, yep.
The new drummer for the Offspring.

(48:16):
Yep.
Still the Offspring.
I was a little bit unsure about it to start off with but still the Offspring.
Metallica.
Metallica.
Yeah, the list goes on.
There's an extensive list of band members who have moved on and the band stayed the same.
I think the new song is okay.

(48:39):
I think it's good.
I don't think there's anything to write home about.
It will probably grow on me if I listen to it more.
But yeah, I think it's fine.
I don't think there's anything wrong with it.
I think it's pretty cool.
I didn't like it at first.
I didn't not like it.
I just didn't jump out at me but it's kind of grown on me a little bit more.
Yep.
The album will be cool.

(49:01):
It'll be cool to see the entirety of the difference in the direction with the new vocalist.
I think she definitely sounds better like studio over live.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I 100% agree there.
Yeah, yeah.
Don't know if she was a part of anything like before.
Surely she's been doing live stuff before and like, you know, it's not like it'd be a first ever live stuff.

(49:27):
So, yeah.
I forget what band she was in.
She was in a band before that.
Yep.
I know there's like a lot of controversy around her at the moment.
Like people are jumping up and down because I think she's just like the choice to have her like completely disrespecting Chester's memory because she had like ties to Scientology movement and she was like she's originally supported some dude who was ended up being a convicted rapist.

(49:56):
Like a lot of like big name celebrities came out in defense of him and then he got found guilty and I was like, well.
So a lot of people are saying like, you know, like, this is disrespecting Chester like blah blah blah.
It's like, well, I feel like he's bandmates and close friends are probably going to have a better understanding than his fucking fans do and yeah.

(50:23):
Yeah, absolutely.
Hmm.
Excited. That's really cool. It's cool that Linkin Park are back and releasing new music.
Yes, I saw this before I forget it.
Yeah, go for it. Go for gold.
What would you like to talk about?
Stay away by.

(50:46):
I'm assuming it's nitty like NITTI and outrage. I sent it to you last night. I don't know if you listened to it this morning when you wake up.
No, I don't. I didn't click into it.
Oh, fuck you. I didn't even see the message.
I sent it to you.
Hmm. Okay. Never send me stuff after I go to bed.

(51:10):
Anyway, it's not metal.
It's like dubstep with like a bit of hard like heavy rock incorporated into it.
Okay.
Pretty fucking cool.
Yet again, just popped up on an Instagram reel and I was just like, it's pretty catchy.
Okay.

(51:31):
So I looked it up and I was like, I can get around this.
I had a couple listeners to it today and I was like, fuck yeah, it's pretty good.
Okay.
Nothing to really say about it except that it's dubstep with a bit of hard rock.
A bit of a breakdown kind of feel, a little bit heavier, like some vocals and shit.

(51:54):
I enjoyed the shit out of it.
So they knew a kind of song or has it been out for a while?
Yeah, it's new. New as shit.
Yeah, okay.
Super, super new.
Hmm. Nice. Cool. And NITTI.
Yeah.
Yeah. Okay. Cool. If that's how you say it.
Yeah, I got no idea. Could be fucking NITTI for all we know.

(52:16):
That's what I'd forgotten and up until now, but that's what I was going to talk about at the start of the episode was how crazy the English language is and how some things read and sound and it just boggles my mind.
Mm hmm.
We're not going into that.

(52:38):
No, no, we'll be here all night.
Mm hmm.
I came across a song today. I sent it to you. I think you listen to it, which is cool. Appreciate that.
Maybe.
I was going to make a real dirty comment, but yeah, I listened to it.
Oh yeah, I wish you did. I like dirty comments.

(53:01):
You said you came across a song and I was just going to say, I normally come across a song.
Which I never asked. Nightmare, The Devil by Fame on Fire.
You know a single of their. Sounds like you.

(53:24):
Yeah, I wouldn't have thought so until maybe you said that and then listening to it again. I was like, yeah, okay, maybe. So I'm keen to have a chop at that.
They that single is off of an album that came out four days ago.
So fresh, fresh, fresh, fresh, fresh. The new album is called The Death Card and I've never heard of Fame on Fire before.

(53:52):
Neither.
No, but really enjoyed that that single Nightmare. So I'm going to go through and have a look at that album or have a listen to that album and see what else is on there.
I did watch the YouTube video of the single Nightmare. YouTube video is pretty cool. Yeah, not a bad video. Enjoyed it.

(54:13):
And yeah, pretty cool. So.
Yeah, that's it.
I did find another song too. Fire, Blood and Steel by Brothers of Metal.
Brothers of Metal. Okay. I'll send you that one too and I put it in Discord.
Then I think I've listened to that one. That's why it sounds familiar. I think you said Brothers of Metal.

(54:35):
Pretty fucking good. It's just a Power Metal song. No beating around the bush.
It's like it's great. It's fucking great. Simple, but massively catchy.
Yeah, I like Power Metal the best of times. Power of the Beast. Yeah, Beast in Black. Beast in Black.

(55:00):
I showed Taylor that the other day. I have to tell you about this. You're not going to like this.
We're driving back from Gold Coast, I think, last weekend, whenever it was.
Spotify have this thing now where you can join into a listening playlist together.
So if you want to drive home, you can join on your phone into their Spotify.

(55:27):
You can join the playlist and then it'll play through the car. Whatever you do with it.
I'm like, cool. I'm going to start adding all of these songs to the list so we can listen to it.
If you're popping up, I'm like, oh yeah. That Beast in Black. That song came up. Power of the Beast.
I was like, oh yeah, you've got to listen to this. She's like, oh, fine. I'll listen to it.

(55:53):
It started off and she's like, hmm. I'm like, just get to the chorus. Just get to the chorus.
And I promise you, you'll be loving it. And she did it on purpose.
Just before we got to the chorus, she hit next. I was there and I'm going hard at it.

(56:14):
I am in the car, singing my heart out, going hard, just enjoying myself.
I'm having the best time, ready to absolutely belt the shit out of a chorus. And then it got cut off.
Fuck her off. Get a new one. Fuck you, Taylor.
I started it again and then we listened to the whole way through. Yeah.

(56:38):
And the other one I showed her too, I'm really loving at the moment, Siamese. Is that the name of the band?
Yeah. This is not a song?
This is not a song? It's awesome. It's just fucking so good.
Like, I would go see them live just for that song. Fucking A, to go off.

(57:01):
And to be about the only, ever, only thing ever I would go into the pit for.
The only. That's it. You know what I'm like with pits? I would go into that one.
Yep. Yep. Yep. I'm going to add that to the playlist. Yeah. Been enjoying the shit out of that.
Yeah. This is not a song by Siamese.

(57:22):
Also like electronic kind of metal hybrid. Yep. Yeah. Yeah. Really cool.
Really cool they do in that song in particular.
Enjoy the shit out of that song. Another Instagram find of mine.
Yeah. Yeah. That's great. So many different ways to find your music now.
So it's awesome. Yeah. Great. Love it. Great. Fuck yeah.

(57:48):
Been awesome. Next week, I looked at the list.
I've got jokes I didn't. Didn't memorize what we were going to talk about.
And if I bring up Discord now, I'm going to get the deep voice.
So yeah, fuck it. You know what? We're going to have a deep voice.
Yeah, we'll get the deep voice going. Let me load up Discord.

(58:10):
We're going to chat about it next week.
Definitely going to add embarrassment. Instant. Is it instant? It's just straight away.
No way. Instant. I've loaded up Discord and for some reason my computer doesn't like it.
We could just talk about embarrassment. Okay. Yep.

(58:35):
Yeah. It just means that I didn't even have to open up Discord and use it to get the deep voice.
What the fuck of it? This is going to be a thing now.
Thank you very much for listening to this week's episode of the Pain in the Head podcast.
Next week, we will be discussing embarrassment and mental health and how it can affect your mental health.
You become too embarrassed. Thank you, Christian, for joining me.

(59:03):
We'll see you next week. It's okay. Do not be okay.
You're making me wet.
See you next week. Bye.
See you.
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