July 14, 2024 • 46 mins
This week on The Pain In Our Head Podcast, Caleb & Christian discuss the new vaping laws in Australia and the reasons why stressing less can help your mental health.
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What's going on everyone?
Howdy.
Welcome to this week's episode of the Pain in Our Head podcast.
I've been chatting about the struggles of quitting, quitting vaping.
Recently laws have come in and we can't vape anymore.
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It's not good.
You know, perfect cue here.
We've done an addictions episode.
If you're out there and you're struggling, have a listen, have a watch to our addictions
episode.
Shut the fuck up, Caleb.
Fuck you.
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This is bullshit.
Look, all right, I cracked the shits today and I fucking yeeted my vape.
All right.
I fucking yeeted it.
I was just like, I've been thinking about quitting for a couple of weeks.
I quit smoking.
I was just vaping and I was just like, I'm going to quit.
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I'm going to quit.
I'm going to quit.
And then the new laws came in and you know, they're not going to be selling all the nice
flavors and you got to go to a chemist and all this sort of fucking hoo-ha.
I was like, fuck you.
Stupid government.
Like just fuck, fuck you.
It's like you don't have to buy cigarettes at a chemist.
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So why do you have to go buy fucking vapes at a chemist?
Like just piss off you fucking wankers.
As you can tell, I quit today and I'm really fucking struggling because I cracked a fucking
canty and just yeeted my vape and it took about an hour before it to kick in where I
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was just like, oh yeah, I'm going to hit my vape.
I went, no, I don't.
I can't hit it because it's not there.
And then a couple of minutes later I was like, I'm going to hit my vape.
No, you're not.
And that's my life for the rest of the fucking afternoon.
Because here we are on a Tuesday afternoon.
We went for the hat trick.
We got it.
And you know, for the last two and a half, three hours, I have just been fucking gagging
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for a vape.
I almost stopped at the servo and bought a pack of Siggy's.
But I didn't.
I wish I fucking did.
Are you happy?
Happy we had this discussion now?
I'm very happy we had this discussion.
I feel like there's going to be a whole lot of people now on the edge, you know, driving
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around.
There's going to be more road rage.
People are going to be a lot less approachable.
You know, people at work.
You know, there's going to be a lot more headbiting going around.
So that's fun.
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Try not to get under anyone's skin.
Even though I will be doing my best to live under Christian's skin for the next week.
Anyway, you know, like I said, listen to the addictions episode.
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I may even recommend our anger episode.
Episode two, that's going a while back.
Episode two.
This is now episode 23.
So how about that?
Anyway, episode 23, we're going to chat about stress.
Oh, what a fucking day for it.
Funnily enough, we're going to talk about stress and things that you can do.
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And we're going to talk about many different things, how to cope with some stress, what
some stress can do to your body and your mental health.
But I know for certain that there's a part there that we're going to talk about where
it says replace those unhealthy coping mechanisms with healthy ones.
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So we've talked a little bit about that as well.
So we're going to learn a heap today.
Thanks for joining us this week.
You're enjoying this too much.
You fuck off.
I'm having a really good time.
It's coming though.
It will come around to you.
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When it's your turn, fuck you.
Every dog has its day.
Has its day.
Yeah.
That's one of my favorite sayings.
We talked about this last week, you know, your favorite sayings and you've said your
three favorite sayings before.
That's mine and good.
Every dog has its day.
That's a great saying.
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Yeah.
Yeah.
Ah, yours do ring pretty true.
Yours are good.
I know they are.
I've adapted yours.
A lot of people do.
Like spend enough time with me and yeah, you'll say one of them.
Yeah.
Yes.
All right.
Stress, stress, stressful situations.
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Stress is one of those things that no one's immune to being stressed.
You know, like a few of those to mental health podcasts and you know all about how to fucking
deal and cope with these things.
Like still not fucking immune.
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Yeah.
So, uh, effects on the body.
I think it's a big one.
Right through the fucking roof.
Yeah, I bet it is.
I bet it is.
I just feel so anxious.
Wait for the withdrawals, you know, the headache with fucking I went through that last time
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and that was shit.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Insomnia, you know, getting the shit sleep.
Fuck this.
I'm going to go buy a pack of Siggy's after we record this.
I don't know, but I mean, it's, it's, it's a hard thing, right?
Everyone's got to have advice and you know, uh, yeah, they're taking away a lot of, a
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lot of people's voices and uh, it's going to be a very scary world in the next few weeks.
Anyway, I'll move past it.
Uh, yeah.
So stress on the body.
So all stress can cause a lot of different harm to your body.
Uh, you know, high blood sugar, you know, heartburn, your heart beats faster, uh, high
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blood pressure, lots of those sort of things and they suck.
We've talked about sleep and how getting a shit sleep can, you know, set you up to fail
really and those sort of things.
So stress, stress is dangerous.
Yeah.
I just don't know how you do do that sometimes.
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But yeah, we talked about a sleep episode.
I could get six, like six is a minimum.
I guess everyone's different.
But it get full.
Yeah.
That's crazy.
I mean, good on you.
You know, you're getting an extra two hours of your day.
So I don't really do much with it.
You know, well, uh, what else?
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Oh, tense muscles.
That one kills me.
I think that's the one that gets me the most.
I think when I'm stressed, yeah, I just, oh, irritable.
I'm really stressed.
It takes nothing to push me over the last part.
And it's just fucking on like don't know.
Also a good sign on like donkey Kong.
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Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's not, you were, it wasn't in your top three, but maybe in the top five.
It's used pretty regularly.
It probably was number four followed closely by number five would be fuck off, Caleb.
That's a good saying.
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I use that a lot.
You do use that a lot.
That's a great saying.
Stress can pull your immune system down too.
Uh, that's, that's the other one that hits me.
I think I'm super stressed.
I'm not sleeping.
Super easy to get sick.
Yeah.
It might just, oh yeah.
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Yeah.
Yeah.
That sickness comes and hits me real hard.
I know I'm, I'm stressing.
If I start getting a little bit sick and I'm losing sleep.
So yeah.
Perfect storm, isn't it?
Oh, it just spirals.
It absolutely does.
Yeah.
So I'm stressed.
Oh, okay.
I'm getting less sleep.
I'm not eating as much food.
Yeah.
And my immune system comes down.
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Then you just get skull fucked by the God awful fucking flu.
It's just like, Oh shit.
Where'd that come from?
It's like, Oh, I got a little bit stressed and then neck minute.
Fuck it.
Boom.
Donkey punch.
Yep.
Just bang.
Hmm.
So identifying stress.
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I guess though I've read a, I'm kind of reading from the, the help guide.org.
There's an article, really great article just on managing stress.
And it talks about how they kind of first step is to identify the cause of stress in
your life.
I mean, that makes sense, right?
You want to, you want to find out what it is exactly.
That's causing you the stress and work backwards from there.
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There's a really good first step.
Hmm.
Yeah.
Cause it gives you the opportunity to think about what it is.
It's causing you stress and think about what you can do to maybe stop whatever it is that's
causing you stress.
Exactly.
Yeah.
Yeah.
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That's unhealthy coping.
What else?
What else can we do to help stress?
It's not working very well for you.
It's not at all.
It's not going well.
What a day.
What a day to pick.
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Hmm.
Hmm.
I can throw a Tanty.
Were you stressed?
Is that why you threw the Tanty?
Look, that's a great, that's a great word.
Tanty.
I love that word.
You can use it really like fucking obnoxiously too.
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So, oh, you have a little Tanty.
Really fucking see someone just crack off.
Then it's like, oh.
They're already pissy as fuck.
And then he's like, oh, you have a little Tanty.
And then just wash a red line.
Yeah.
I mean, like, not like I'd piss someone off intentionally, but you know.
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What were we talking about?
You were going to bring up something really inspiring, I think.
And then I cut you off with the Tanty thing.
Hmm.
Hmm.
Oh, was I stressed when I, cause I quit.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
I've, I hit the vape, right?
And it just like, it was one of those like weird ones where it just like the whole lot just got caught in my throat.
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And so I was like trying to like breathe it out without coughing my fucking ring out.
And like I got it out.
Then I had my cough and I was like, okay, cool.
I'm good.
Had a drink.
I was like, yep, sweet.
I'm fine.
And went to sing and literally could not get any noise to come out of my vocal cords.
I went to sing and I was just like.
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Nothing, nothing came out whatsoever.
And it fucking terrified me.
And I was like, fuck this shit.
I'm done.
Like if this is going to affect my singing, like it's fucking, it's gone.
Just like, poof.
Just.
That's a stressful thought.
Actually, that's a really good point actually.
That's a big thing to get stressed over.
Stressed over injury.
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Not being able to do work or hobbies or things that you like doing.
That are your coping mechanisms.
So being stressed about not being able to do your healthy coping mechanisms.
That's a huge thing.
Yeah, absolutely.
That can bring on stress.
I remember when I injured my back a few, about a month and a bit ago now at work.
I was stressed through the roof.
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Cause you know, wasn't able to do my everyday activities and.
Radarada.
You had a sore back.
You couldn't masturbate and play LOL.
What do you mean? Of course I still played LOL.
You can do everything then.
That is your daily activities.
Isn't that all you do?
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Good one.
But unhealthy ways that we've talked about this in our coping mechanisms episode.
Binging on junk food, stress eating, using alcohol, drugs, laks.
My sugar intake's going to go through the fucking roof this week.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I remember when I quit smoking many moons ago, the amount of junk food I would eat.
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I'm a sucker for ice cream.
My teeth are too sensitive.
You're bad.
Who fucking sometimes suck it up and just deal with the pain.
Golden gate times.
Oh, yes.
Golden gate times.
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I was in trouble as soon as I started doing tubs.
That's just dangerous.
Just a liter of Golden Gate.
I used to get the mango sorbets.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
And so that'd be a little treat.
When I was with Kim, we'd go and get a little tub of.
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When we went shopping, it was like when you go grocery shopping.
So she'd get a specific ice cream and I'd get mine.
And it was like, don't touch my fucking sorbet.
And so what I'd do is I just really fucking anal habit where I'd get a teaspoon and I'd just like scrape at it and slowly like that was how I'd eat it.
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Like I just scrape, scrape, scrape, scrape, scrape.
And so like every time I ate it, it would just like evenly like go down and you'd see like my little spoon lines through it.
Like it was it was level like it looked like some kind of was in there with a fucking grader.
Like it was it was great.
But I know if Kim had tried to eat my sorbet because she couldn't recreate it and they'd be like a divot and I'd flip my shit.
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Don't touch my clogs.
Don't touch my clogs.
Taking stress out on others.
That's another unhealthy way of dealing with stress, Christian.
Don't touch my sorbet or I won't take it out on you.
That sounds like a you problem, not a me problem.
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Procrastinating.
I do that.
I do that normally without stress.
Yeah, Koe.
There's heaps of things that I probably should be doing, but.
Hmm.
Crust dating.
It's fun.
Mind you, it's like I probably haven't not been stressed for like the last year, so that probably doesn't help.
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Yeah, really.
You honestly can say they haven't been stressed in the last year.
I said I haven't not been stressed.
Yeah, OK.
I think I've been living under like a constant state of I'm not I mean, I'm being serious.
I think I've constantly been living under stress since August.
That's a good name for this episode.
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The duress of stress.
I'm fine.
Scratch that.
That's the episode title.
Fuck you, Caleb.
That's a good one.
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Avoid unnecessary stress.
All right, I was going to disconnect now then because you're unnecessary.
Learn how to say no.
I tried and you ignored me.
I told you before we started recording not to fucking pick on me and push my buttons.
You can pick any other topic, not the vaping.
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No, I haven't pushed that bad.
I've held back.
I'm holding back.
I'll vent your way.
All right.
What else?
What do we say when we talk about stress management?
What are some things that's worked for you in the past, but not much in the last year by the sounds?
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The fact that I'm still here means it did work.
I've been living under stress that long and I'm still kicking.
I haven't killed anybody.
That's good.
That's good.
It's the usual things, isn't it?
Using those coping mechanisms that we talked about all the way back at the start.
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Did I say that?
I feel like I said that.
Whatever.
You said it well.
Engaging those coping mechanisms that we spoke about a long time ago now.
Like Caleb said, being able to identify the source of your stress, what it is that's put you in this position and whether you can do anything about it, which helps come to terms with it.
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If you can do something about it, do something.
If you can't do something about it, then fucking deal with it and move on.
Be a man.
Be a man.
Yeah.
Shit your pants.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's it.
Too stressed at work.
Just shit your pants.
Go home.
How many times have you told me to shit my pants just so I could come home and play League of Legends with you is fucking disgraceful.
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And how many times did you do it?
None.
We come close unintentionally, but none.
Here at Paid in Our Head podcast, we both have very healthy and functioning bowel movements.
Neither of us regularly come close to shitting our pants.
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That's going to be a fucking real, isn't it?
I don't know.
Maybe.
We've already talked about this on an episode, a few episodes back.
Actually, I say a few episodes back.
It was a while ago.
It was like two episodes ago, wasn't it?
No.
You dig that one from the archives.
I did dig that one from the archives.
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Yeah.
It was like episode 17.
This is not too long ago.
Anyway.
Anyway.
That's how you cope with stress.
Yeah.
It's just the same things that we've talked about.
Yeah.
Exercise.
But I say in this article, that's a bigger one.
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That's mentioned in a lot of our different mental health topics.
I don't do a fair bit of exercise now.
Now you do.
Do you feel less stressed because of it?
Probably.
Feel fitter?
More tired.
I definitely feel fitter.
More tired, so maybe I don't have enough time to be stressed.
Your face is looking a bit skinnier.
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No.
Nah.
I'm probably not stressed because I've got a routine.
Yeah.
See, I talked about this.
Yeah.
But when I didn't have a routine, I was stressed every day.
And like you think, how the fuck does that work?
You're not doing anything.
You've got all the freedom to do whatever you want.
Nope.
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Just stressed.
Yeah.
Yeah, all the freedom to sit here 24 hours a day and think about mental health.
Great freedom.
Yeah, so lots of exercise is something that can really help.
I love one of the points they've got here.
So park your car in the furthest spot from the entrance of wherever you're going.
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No.
Stuff that.
Fuck that.
Don't you fucking swear at me like that.
Why not?
I know.
Just park close.
Right.
I'm sure they're trying to be like, oh, park as far away as you can walk and get your exercise.
Like, no, fuck you.
I don't want to.
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I want to park as efficiently as I can.
You'd hate parking with me.
I'd fucking throttle you.
I already know it.
I already know.
I wouldn't let you drive.
Tyler, Tyler can't stand it.
We go to the shops or somewhere like that or anywhere in the big parking lot.
I park.
I'm already starting to get stressed.
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I park as far as I can away from everyone else, which is obviously away from the entrance because everyone likes to park right at the entrance.
So I park well and truly away from everyone else.
So I do that anyway.
Why?
It helps me not be stressed.
I hate being like so compact with everyone else.
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That gives me stress and anxiety being so close to everyone else.
Yeah, fuck you.
You know, actually, you're not grinding my gears.
I'll do that at the shops.
I'll park.
And then someone parks next to you.
Oh, like right on top of me too.
There'll be like 10 parks either side of me.
And this fuckhead will park right next to me.
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Nice.
Yeah.
That really rides me up.
So fuck that.
Anyway, time management.
Think about things you can be stressed about and trying to think of some common things here that people might get stressed about.
The time management things.
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Get better at it then.
Well, yeah.
Easier said than done.
It takes a lot of practice.
It does.
And it's not as easy as it seems.
But that's where procrastinating comes into it as well.
You can write up a calendar or write up a schedule.
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And it doesn't matter how great the schedule looks like, if you don't stick to it and you procrastinate, it's not going to work.
And you're just going to feel even more stressed.
So practicing it.
Yeah. Practicing your time management.
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Moving on.
What up, babe?
Fuck me.
We're going to call this episode Christian's Relapse.
What are my relapses going to do?
I don't know.
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Christian Quits. There you go.
Christian Quits. That's a good name.
It is misleading.
But that's what we do on this podcast.
Mislead the fuck out of you.
Make you think like we're going to talk about something and talk about something else.
Talk about mental health and then we talk a lot of shit and food and literal poop.
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And then a little bit of smattering of fucking mental health over the top of it.
And then music.
And then music.
I'm talking shit. We talk a lot about mental health.
We do. We do talk a lot about mental health. We try to.
But yeah. So there's lots of different things. Lots of different ways to cope with stress.
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And not all of these things are going to work.
It depends on what the particular thing is that you're stressed about.
I think about university. You should be stressed about exams.
You should be stressed about deadlines.
That doesn't even have to be in a university or a schooling kind of sense.
You can have deadlines at work. So you can be stressed about those deadlines.
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So time deadlines. You'd be stressed about money.
That's the worst thing to be stressed about.
We've done an episode on that sort of thing and how it can affect your mental health.
What's it worth? A few episodes back.
Yep. That was a good one.
Episode 19. 18, 19.
So yeah, you'd be stressed about money.
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What else can you be stressed about?
Living situations. I remember maybe a few years back now, post COVID,
especially up here in Queensland, the renting world just turned upside down.
And it was very, very hard to find a place to rent here in Queensland.
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A lot of people were migrating up from the South, buying a lot of the houses,
and also moving up here and renting as well.
So yeah, whoever had the more money, whoever could spend more money each week
would be given the property and were able to rent.
That was a very stressful time.
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So yeah, that's something to be stressed about.
We're still fucked.
Oh, it is. Absolutely. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I think it's improving, but still shit.
Anyway, look, that's really good.
There's so many different things we could talk about when it comes to stress.
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They're all pretty straightforward.
It really just comes down to figure out what it is that you're stressed about.
Try to work around it.
Use some healthy coping mechanisms.
See if you can fix the problem.
If you can't, maybe that's when it's time to reach out to someone,
as we always say, talk to someone about it.
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They might have been through a similar situation,
so they might be able to give you some advice or some tips
on how to manage that particular stress.
So yeah.
Any final words of wisdom?
Mr. Snake.
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Mr. Snake.
No, because you've been a little bit snakey.
On that note, we're going to...
Move fast to our channel on stress.
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We're really good.
We're going to have a word from our sponsors.
All I can think about is vaping.
Fuck.
We're going to have a little break.
Christian's not going to have a vape.
Thanks for reminding me.
We're going to be back.
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We're going to be back in a moment to have a chat about some music with you.
Welcome back to this week's episode of the Pain in Our Head podcast.
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We've been chatting about stress.
We've been talking about Christian quitting.
We've been talking about ways to manage your stress.
We briefly touched on what can happen to you if you don't manage your stress,
mental health implications.
Not good.
So manage your stress.
I feel like half of this episode has been me saying I really want to vape.
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Yeah, probably.
That's okay.
How are you feeling now?
I had a bit of a giggle through the break.
I had a little sippy poo on my drink.
I'm feeling a little bit more refreshed and I don't want to reach through the
screen and punch in the fucking head.
That's good.
That's an improvement.
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Excellent.
It is.
No, I do feel a bit better.
This is one of my coping mechanisms.
Recording the podcast is a coping mechanism.
I enjoy doing it.
I feel like I've accomplished something.
It's a good way to clear your head a little bit,
like a bit of a chat with you.
It's a good coping mechanism.
It's calmed me down.
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Even though I still really want to have a vape, I'm okay.
Excellent.
I'm glad to hear it.
I'm glad it's working.
Talking to people.
It's a perfect example of how talking to someone can really help.
Even if they're a dickhead.
Even if they are a dickhead.
But hey, I've gotten used to it.
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All done.
Pretty good.
I'm rubbing off on you.
Yeah.
This week I'm going to talk about Linkin Park.
I haven't talked about Linkin Park on the podcast.
Surprisingly.
They're not up there for me in terms of one of my favorite all time bands.
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I enjoy a fair few of their songs,
but they're not something that I'm just like, oh fuck yeah.
Yeah, I do too.
I really like a lot of their songs and a lot of their music.
I don't keep up with them, so I'm not actually 100% sure.
But haven't they found another vocalist?
I don't think they have.
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And then they're doing something with another vocalist.
I could be wrong.
As I said, I don't really keep up.
They did an album where they got a couple of different artists in
and just guest vocals and shit.
Okay.
Well, the song I wanted to chat about was Crawling.
Good song.
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Yeah, it's not bad.
Not one of my favorite Linkin Park songs.
No.
I just like this song.
I've been listening to it this week, so I don't know why.
I think it just popped up randomly for me as I was shuffling my Spotify.
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I've been smashing Giving Up.
Giving Up by Linkin Park.
That's a good one.
Fucking great one.
That is a fucking long scream.
That is a long scream.
I should try that.
Yeah, I should give that a go.
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I'm sure I sent it to you, me doing it.
But I don't think I've given it a go.
Hard.
Maybe it would be.
It's a long fucking scream.
Trying to think of my favorite Linkin Park song.
Faint.
Oh yeah, it's pretty good.
Yeah, that would be my favorite.
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Obviously when I first ever heard Linkin Park, it was in the end.
Is that the one from the Transformers?
Or is that the other one?
The one from the Transformers was later than that.
What I've Done.
What I've Done.
That was a great song too actually.
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That was a really good way to round out that scene.
I enjoyed that fucking song.
Yeah, yeah.
A lot of people know Num.
That's probably one of their more popular ones.
Crawling's a great song.
I didn't know this.
It was given the Grammy Award for best hard rock performance in 2002.
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But it came out in 2000.
24 years ago.
Crazy.
Crazy.
That's insane.
Unbelievable.
Good song, good band.
Great band.
Name about Chester.
Oh yeah, absolutely.
That's what I thought it was.
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A stranger we hadn't actually brought up Linkin Park on the podcast.
Considering we're about mental health and music.
We could write a really fucking long list of artists, like extremely successful artists that have died.
Yes.
If you haven't listened to Linkin Park before, crawling's not a bad place to start.
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But I'd say you've probably, if you are listening, you've probably heard what I've Done in the end.
And Num are probably the three that even if you didn't know it was Linkin Park,
you probably heard those three songs.
But crawling's good.
I think it's just about being in your head and not being able to get away from the stress of those thoughts.
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Great chorus, nice and simple.
Crawling in my skin.
These wounds, they will not heal.
Fear is how I fall.
Confusing what is real.
I don't know.
Just a good song.
I really like the production.
That's one actually thing I really do like about Linkin Park is their production.
Their production value is on point.
And it's not just the instruments that the band members play.
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It's all the extra sort of stuff that they've thrown in and that they put on top of it.
That's what really makes that Linkin Park sound.
You can tell it's a Linkin Park sound just by some of that production.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So yeah, it's really cool.
So anyway, I thought I would throw in Linkin Park this week.
I'll chuck it on the playlist.
Go give it a listen.
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Oh, if you like.
Okay.
Mine's got nothing to do with mental health at all.
It's just a new Beast in Black song came out and I'm fucking chuffed over it.
Super, super chuffed because I fucking love Beast in Black.
I feel like I've spoken about them, but I don't feel like I've chosen any of their songs in particular to be featured.
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I don't know.
I don't think so.
Yeah.
Either way, I fucking love Beast in Black.
And they've got a new album on the way and they released Power of the Beast.
So it's been out for about two weeks now.
It slaps.
It does.
Yannis has got an amazing voice.
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You know, it's power metal.
I fucking love power metal.
I know I've said it before.
It's fun.
It is.
I love it.
Power metal is fun.
It's great.
It's an amazing genre.
I love it.
It makes you feel good.
It's uplifting.
It's like it's powerful.
Relief stress.
Yeah.
And I'm a sucker for music that's got really good synth in it.
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So, you know, and it's got really good synth in it.
Yeah, it does.
So yeah, absolutely there for it.
Mixed really well.
Yeah.
Don't know who's mixed that, but smick.
Perfect.
Just absolutely top notch.
Yeah.
I can't believe I had never heard a single song of theirs.
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Didn't even know they existed until a few weeks ago when you sent me the new song.
And I was pretty bamboozled.
Yeah.
I forgot to send you a list of my favorite songs for you to listen to.
I told you I was going to, but I didn't.
So yeah, click them through because I really like to give them a listen.
Through the week.
Yeah.
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They do a Michael Jackson cover of They Don't Really Care About Us and it's fucking brilliant.
Really?
It's brilliant.
I love that song.
I love that Michael Jackson song.
It was brilliant.
I showed it to my dad and he was like, this is great.
Like, this is really good.
And I was like, yeah.
Okay.
I'll be interested in that.
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I really like Michael Jackson.
I like lots of his music.
Music's fantastic.
Yeah.
Hmm.
Do you like the alien ant farm?
Yeah, fucking I do.
Yeah.
It's a good version.
It is.
Yeah.
I fucking, I was, you know, I was there when that song was on Rage in the mornings.
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Oh yeah.
It's got really cool bass lines.
Yes.
He really does.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Very groovy.
Very, very groovy.
Hmm.
It's very groovy, man.
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Hmm.
Was.
Was.
Yeah.
No.
Yeah.
Love lots of his music.
I grew up listening to a lot of his music.
I think you think my mum was a big fan and my brother was also a big fan.
So yeah, I still remember the day actually we finished school, jumped in the car and mum was a little bit upset.
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She seemed like she was a bit upset and she was listening to Michael Jackson.
And I remember, yeah, I still remember the day that she told us from driving home and she's like, oh, Michael Jackson died today.
And we're like, huh, wow.
Yeah, I still remember.
I don't know.
Cool story.
Yeah.
What's for dinner?
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Yeah, I've never fucking.
Still remember.
I've never like gotten super upset over, you know, famous people dying.
And it's like.
Yeah, I know.
I know.
She was like, you know, she was like balling her eyes out and wasn't like.
It was people that were though.
Would have been.
Yeah.
Yeah.
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He was very much.
He was big.
He was big.
He was huge.
Yeah, he was massive.
I was pretty upset about.
Taylor.
Taylor Hawkins.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, I couldn't listen to Foo Fighters for a long time after after he passed.
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After I heard that.
Yeah.
No.
Yeah.
Every time.
Every time I just heard one of the songs, I just thought about him and the drums and how much of an incredible drummer he was and how much inspiration I've taken from.
His drumming.
Yeah, that was so pretty upset about that.
But, you know, nothing went and balled my eyes out over.
But yeah.
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Interesting.
It's interesting.
I can't think of being upset.
Like, I think I've proven sad that someone that I enjoyed listening to died.
But I don't think I ever felt like, you know.
I can't think of anything.
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Yeah.
But I'd say it's one of those things like some of these artists or famous people.
I mean, is it more artists?
I think just because, you know, you have that people have a connection with them through their music.
Yeah.
You know, and I think if they've really hit that person in the right spot and, you know, they've grown up listening to that sort of music.
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All that their music and there'll be no more of it anymore.
Then I guess that's a pretty sad thing.
You know, their music might have been a coping mechanism for those people.
You know, so.
Hmm.
Interesting thought.
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You know what?
Other song.
Hmm.
What?
Oh, yeah.
You sent me that.
Yeah.
Good song.
They've got great music.
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Yeah.
I've seen them like five times.
Yeah.
My sister was a very, very big fan when she was a lot younger.
And we saw them like when they went back before they were even super, super big.
Yeah.
Yeah.
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They came and actually did like a, played at a shopping center in Brisbane here.
We used to have a really small stage in the shopping center.
And it wouldn't fit that many people.
You know what?
They're actually they were really good live back then.
This is going back.
Oh, fuck.
This is going back 16 years ago.
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But yeah, no, they were really good.
I saw them.
Tiny.
Oh, yeah.
Because we got to meet them.
They're small, smaller than you.
Unbelievable.
Same height.
That's never been proven.
I am.
I watched John Butler Trio.
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Oh, OK.
They came to Bundy and they showed up early for their gig that night.
And in like the main street of Bundy, there's like this little,
I don't know, like a couple of steps, like concrete steps.
And they just rocked up and fucking started playing there.
Yeah, OK.
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It's pretty sick.
Don't mind a few of their songs.
I've got my cup of tea.
Yeah.
Take it or leave it to be honest.
Pretty much, yeah.
That's cool.
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Well, it's a small chat this week, but hey, we release an episode every week.
We're sticking to our schedule.
It stops me from being stressed when we do finally get to record.
Next week, we're going to chat about anxiety.
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That's going to be a bigger episode.
Yeah, it's going to be a bigger episode.
And I won't be as stressed out about quitting vaping.
Because you're going to be neck deep in a pack of cigarettes.
No.
I feel like if I can get through tonight, I'll be OK.
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If I can get to work tomorrow without caving and getting cigarettes, I should be OK.
Yeah.
I think you can do it.
I'm going to give it my best shot.
That's all you can do.
Get that on the big jobs.
If I can quit.
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Good.
Well, yes, anxiety next week.
It's going to be loads to unpack next week.
So excited to talk about those sort of things.
Excited is actually probably not the right word.
Enthusiastic.
Enthusiastic.
Yeah.
Great.
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Thanks for listening.
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I think so.
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What's going on everyone?
Howdy.
Welcome to this week's episode of the Pain in Our Head podcast.
I've been chatting about the struggles of quitting, quitting vaping.
Recently laws have come in and we can't vape anymore.
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It's not good.
You know, perfect cue here.
We've done an addictions episode.
If you're out there and you're struggling, have a listen, have a watch to our addictions
episode.
Shut the fuck up, Caleb.
Fuck you.
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This is bullshit.
Look, all right, I cracked the shits today and I fucking yeeted my vape.
All right.
I fucking yeeted it.
I was just like, I've been thinking about quitting for a couple of weeks.
I quit smoking.
I was just vaping and I was just like, I'm going to quit.
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I'm going to quit.
I'm going to quit.
And then the new laws came in and you know, they're not going to be selling all the nice
flavors and you got to go to a chemist and all this sort of fucking hoo-ha.
I was like, fuck you.
Stupid government.
Like just fuck, fuck you.
It's like you don't have to buy cigarettes at a chemist.
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So why do you have to go buy fucking vapes at a chemist?
Like just piss off you fucking wankers.
As you can tell, I quit today and I'm really fucking struggling because I cracked a fucking
canty and just yeeted my vape and it took about an hour before it to kick in where I
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was just like, oh yeah, I'm going to hit my vape.
I went, no, I don't.
I can't hit it because it's not there.
And then a couple of minutes later I was like, I'm going to hit my vape.
No, you're not.
And that's my life for the rest of the fucking afternoon.
Because here we are on a Tuesday afternoon.
We went for the hat trick.
We got it.
And you know, for the last two and a half, three hours, I have just been fucking gagging
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for a vape.
I almost stopped at the servo and bought a pack of Siggy's.
But I didn't.
I wish I fucking did.
Are you happy?
Happy we had this discussion now?
I'm very happy we had this discussion.
I feel like there's going to be a whole lot of people now on the edge, you know, driving
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around.
There's going to be more road rage.
People are going to be a lot less approachable.
You know, people at work.
You know, there's going to be a lot more headbiting going around.
So that's fun.
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Try not to get under anyone's skin.
Even though I will be doing my best to live under Christian's skin for the next week.
Anyway, you know, like I said, listen to the addictions episode.
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I may even recommend our anger episode.
Episode two, that's going a while back.
Episode two.
This is now episode 23.
So how about that?
Anyway, episode 23, we're going to chat about stress.
Oh, what a fucking day for it.
Funnily enough, we're going to talk about stress and things that you can do.
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And we're going to talk about many different things, how to cope with some stress, what
some stress can do to your body and your mental health.
But I know for certain that there's a part there that we're going to talk about where
it says replace those unhealthy coping mechanisms with healthy ones.
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So we've talked a little bit about that as well.
So we're going to learn a heap today.
Thanks for joining us this week.
You're enjoying this too much.
You fuck off.
I'm having a really good time.
It's coming though.
It will come around to you.
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When it's your turn, fuck you.
Every dog has its day.
Has its day.
Yeah.
That's one of my favorite sayings.
We talked about this last week, you know, your favorite sayings and you've said your
three favorite sayings before.
That's mine and good.
Every dog has its day.
That's a great saying.
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Yeah.
Yeah.
Ah, yours do ring pretty true.
Yours are good.
I know they are.
I've adapted yours.
A lot of people do.
Like spend enough time with me and yeah, you'll say one of them.
Yeah.
Yes.
All right.
Stress, stress, stressful situations.
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Stress is one of those things that no one's immune to being stressed.
You know, like a few of those to mental health podcasts and you know all about how to fucking
deal and cope with these things.
Like still not fucking immune.
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Yeah.
So, uh, effects on the body.
I think it's a big one.
Right through the fucking roof.
Yeah, I bet it is.
I bet it is.
I just feel so anxious.
Wait for the withdrawals, you know, the headache with fucking I went through that last time
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and that was shit.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Insomnia, you know, getting the shit sleep.
Fuck this.
I'm going to go buy a pack of Siggy's after we record this.
I don't know, but I mean, it's, it's, it's a hard thing, right?
Everyone's got to have advice and you know, uh, yeah, they're taking away a lot of, a
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lot of people's voices and uh, it's going to be a very scary world in the next few weeks.
Anyway, I'll move past it.
Uh, yeah.
So stress on the body.
So all stress can cause a lot of different harm to your body.
Uh, you know, high blood sugar, you know, heartburn, your heart beats faster, uh, high
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blood pressure, lots of those sort of things and they suck.
We've talked about sleep and how getting a shit sleep can, you know, set you up to fail
really and those sort of things.
So stress, stress is dangerous.
Yeah.
I just don't know how you do do that sometimes.
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But yeah, we talked about a sleep episode.
I could get six, like six is a minimum.
I guess everyone's different.
But it get full.
Yeah.
That's crazy.
I mean, good on you.
You know, you're getting an extra two hours of your day.
So I don't really do much with it.
You know, well, uh, what else?
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Oh, tense muscles.
That one kills me.
I think that's the one that gets me the most.
I think when I'm stressed, yeah, I just, oh, irritable.
I'm really stressed.
It takes nothing to push me over the last part.
And it's just fucking on like don't know.
Also a good sign on like donkey Kong.
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Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's not, you were, it wasn't in your top three, but maybe in the top five.
It's used pretty regularly.
It probably was number four followed closely by number five would be fuck off, Caleb.
That's a good saying.
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I use that a lot.
You do use that a lot.
That's a great saying.
Stress can pull your immune system down too.
Uh, that's, that's the other one that hits me.
I think I'm super stressed.
I'm not sleeping.
Super easy to get sick.
Yeah.
It might just, oh yeah.
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Yeah.
Yeah.
That sickness comes and hits me real hard.
I know I'm, I'm stressing.
If I start getting a little bit sick and I'm losing sleep.
So yeah.
Perfect storm, isn't it?
Oh, it just spirals.
It absolutely does.
Yeah.
So I'm stressed.
Oh, okay.
I'm getting less sleep.
I'm not eating as much food.
Yeah.
And my immune system comes down.
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Then you just get skull fucked by the God awful fucking flu.
It's just like, Oh shit.
Where'd that come from?
It's like, Oh, I got a little bit stressed and then neck minute.
Fuck it.
Boom.
Donkey punch.
Yep.
Just bang.
Hmm.
So identifying stress.
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I guess though I've read a, I'm kind of reading from the, the help guide.org.
There's an article, really great article just on managing stress.
And it talks about how they kind of first step is to identify the cause of stress in
your life.
I mean, that makes sense, right?
You want to, you want to find out what it is exactly.
That's causing you the stress and work backwards from there.
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There's a really good first step.
Hmm.
Yeah.
Cause it gives you the opportunity to think about what it is.
It's causing you stress and think about what you can do to maybe stop whatever it is that's
causing you stress.
Exactly.
Yeah.
Yeah.
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That's unhealthy coping.
What else?
What else can we do to help stress?
It's not working very well for you.
It's not at all.
It's not going well.
What a day.
What a day to pick.
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Hmm.
Hmm.
I can throw a Tanty.
Were you stressed?
Is that why you threw the Tanty?
Look, that's a great, that's a great word.
Tanty.
I love that word.
You can use it really like fucking obnoxiously too.
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So, oh, you have a little Tanty.
Really fucking see someone just crack off.
Then it's like, oh.
They're already pissy as fuck.
And then he's like, oh, you have a little Tanty.
And then just wash a red line.
Yeah.
I mean, like, not like I'd piss someone off intentionally, but you know.
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What were we talking about?
You were going to bring up something really inspiring, I think.
And then I cut you off with the Tanty thing.
Hmm.
Hmm.
Oh, was I stressed when I, cause I quit.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
I've, I hit the vape, right?
And it just like, it was one of those like weird ones where it just like the whole lot just got caught in my throat.
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And so I was like trying to like breathe it out without coughing my fucking ring out.
And like I got it out.
Then I had my cough and I was like, okay, cool.
I'm good.
Had a drink.
I was like, yep, sweet.
I'm fine.
And went to sing and literally could not get any noise to come out of my vocal cords.
I went to sing and I was just like.
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Nothing, nothing came out whatsoever.
And it fucking terrified me.
And I was like, fuck this shit.
I'm done.
Like if this is going to affect my singing, like it's fucking, it's gone.
Just like, poof.
Just.
That's a stressful thought.
Actually, that's a really good point actually.
That's a big thing to get stressed over.
Stressed over injury.
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Not being able to do work or hobbies or things that you like doing.
That are your coping mechanisms.
So being stressed about not being able to do your healthy coping mechanisms.
That's a huge thing.
Yeah, absolutely.
That can bring on stress.
I remember when I injured my back a few, about a month and a bit ago now at work.
I was stressed through the roof.
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Cause you know, wasn't able to do my everyday activities and.
Radarada.
You had a sore back.
You couldn't masturbate and play LOL.
What do you mean? Of course I still played LOL.
You can do everything then.
That is your daily activities.
Isn't that all you do?
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Good one.
But unhealthy ways that we've talked about this in our coping mechanisms episode.
Binging on junk food, stress eating, using alcohol, drugs, laks.
My sugar intake's going to go through the fucking roof this week.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I remember when I quit smoking many moons ago, the amount of junk food I would eat.
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I'm a sucker for ice cream.
My teeth are too sensitive.
You're bad.
Who fucking sometimes suck it up and just deal with the pain.
Golden gate times.
Oh, yes.
Golden gate times.
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I was in trouble as soon as I started doing tubs.
That's just dangerous.
Just a liter of Golden Gate.
I used to get the mango sorbets.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
And so that'd be a little treat.
When I was with Kim, we'd go and get a little tub of.
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When we went shopping, it was like when you go grocery shopping.
So she'd get a specific ice cream and I'd get mine.
And it was like, don't touch my fucking sorbet.
And so what I'd do is I just really fucking anal habit where I'd get a teaspoon and I'd just like scrape at it and slowly like that was how I'd eat it.
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Like I just scrape, scrape, scrape, scrape, scrape.
And so like every time I ate it, it would just like evenly like go down and you'd see like my little spoon lines through it.
Like it was it was level like it looked like some kind of was in there with a fucking grader.
Like it was it was great.
But I know if Kim had tried to eat my sorbet because she couldn't recreate it and they'd be like a divot and I'd flip my shit.
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Don't touch my clogs.
Don't touch my clogs.
Taking stress out on others.
That's another unhealthy way of dealing with stress, Christian.
Don't touch my sorbet or I won't take it out on you.
That sounds like a you problem, not a me problem.
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Procrastinating.
I do that.
I do that normally without stress.
Yeah, Koe.
There's heaps of things that I probably should be doing, but.
Hmm.
Crust dating.
It's fun.
Mind you, it's like I probably haven't not been stressed for like the last year, so that probably doesn't help.
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Yeah, really.
You honestly can say they haven't been stressed in the last year.
I said I haven't not been stressed.
Yeah, OK.
I think I've been living under like a constant state of I'm not I mean, I'm being serious.
I think I've constantly been living under stress since August.
That's a good name for this episode.
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The duress of stress.
I'm fine.
Scratch that.
That's the episode title.
Fuck you, Caleb.
That's a good one.
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Avoid unnecessary stress.
All right, I was going to disconnect now then because you're unnecessary.
Learn how to say no.
I tried and you ignored me.
I told you before we started recording not to fucking pick on me and push my buttons.
You can pick any other topic, not the vaping.
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No, I haven't pushed that bad.
I've held back.
I'm holding back.
I'll vent your way.
All right.
What else?
What do we say when we talk about stress management?
What are some things that's worked for you in the past, but not much in the last year by the sounds?
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The fact that I'm still here means it did work.
I've been living under stress that long and I'm still kicking.
I haven't killed anybody.
That's good.
That's good.
It's the usual things, isn't it?
Using those coping mechanisms that we talked about all the way back at the start.
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Did I say that?
I feel like I said that.
Whatever.
You said it well.
Engaging those coping mechanisms that we spoke about a long time ago now.
Like Caleb said, being able to identify the source of your stress, what it is that's put you in this position and whether you can do anything about it, which helps come to terms with it.
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If you can do something about it, do something.
If you can't do something about it, then fucking deal with it and move on.
Be a man.
Be a man.
Yeah.
Shit your pants.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's it.
Too stressed at work.
Just shit your pants.
Go home.
How many times have you told me to shit my pants just so I could come home and play League of Legends with you is fucking disgraceful.
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And how many times did you do it?
None.
We come close unintentionally, but none.
Here at Paid in Our Head podcast, we both have very healthy and functioning bowel movements.
Neither of us regularly come close to shitting our pants.
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That's going to be a fucking real, isn't it?
I don't know.
Maybe.
We've already talked about this on an episode, a few episodes back.
Actually, I say a few episodes back.
It was a while ago.
It was like two episodes ago, wasn't it?
No.
You dig that one from the archives.
I did dig that one from the archives.
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Yeah.
It was like episode 17.
This is not too long ago.
Anyway.
Anyway.
That's how you cope with stress.
Yeah.
It's just the same things that we've talked about.
Yeah.
Exercise.
But I say in this article, that's a bigger one.
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That's mentioned in a lot of our different mental health topics.
I don't do a fair bit of exercise now.
Now you do.
Do you feel less stressed because of it?
Probably.
Feel fitter?
More tired.
I definitely feel fitter.
More tired, so maybe I don't have enough time to be stressed.
Your face is looking a bit skinnier.
(20:51):
No.
Nah.
I'm probably not stressed because I've got a routine.
Yeah.
See, I talked about this.
Yeah.
But when I didn't have a routine, I was stressed every day.
And like you think, how the fuck does that work?
You're not doing anything.
You've got all the freedom to do whatever you want.
Nope.
(21:12):
Just stressed.
Yeah.
Yeah, all the freedom to sit here 24 hours a day and think about mental health.
Great freedom.
Yeah, so lots of exercise is something that can really help.
I love one of the points they've got here.
So park your car in the furthest spot from the entrance of wherever you're going.
(21:36):
No.
Stuff that.
Fuck that.
Don't you fucking swear at me like that.
Why not?
I know.
Just park close.
Right.
I'm sure they're trying to be like, oh, park as far away as you can walk and get your exercise.
Like, no, fuck you.
I don't want to.
(21:57):
I want to park as efficiently as I can.
You'd hate parking with me.
I'd fucking throttle you.
I already know it.
I already know.
I wouldn't let you drive.
Tyler, Tyler can't stand it.
We go to the shops or somewhere like that or anywhere in the big parking lot.
I park.
I'm already starting to get stressed.
(22:18):
I park as far as I can away from everyone else, which is obviously away from the entrance because everyone likes to park right at the entrance.
So I park well and truly away from everyone else.
So I do that anyway.
Why?
It helps me not be stressed.
I hate being like so compact with everyone else.
(22:41):
That gives me stress and anxiety being so close to everyone else.
Yeah, fuck you.
You know, actually, you're not grinding my gears.
I'll do that at the shops.
I'll park.
And then someone parks next to you.
Oh, like right on top of me too.
There'll be like 10 parks either side of me.
And this fuckhead will park right next to me.
(23:04):
Nice.
Yeah.
That really rides me up.
So fuck that.
Anyway, time management.
Think about things you can be stressed about and trying to think of some common things here that people might get stressed about.
The time management things.
(23:25):
Get better at it then.
Well, yeah.
Easier said than done.
It takes a lot of practice.
It does.
And it's not as easy as it seems.
But that's where procrastinating comes into it as well.
You can write up a calendar or write up a schedule.
(23:47):
And it doesn't matter how great the schedule looks like, if you don't stick to it and you procrastinate, it's not going to work.
And you're just going to feel even more stressed.
So practicing it.
Yeah. Practicing your time management.
(24:12):
Moving on.
What up, babe?
Fuck me.
We're going to call this episode Christian's Relapse.
What are my relapses going to do?
I don't know.
(24:34):
Christian Quits. There you go.
Christian Quits. That's a good name.
It is misleading.
But that's what we do on this podcast.
Mislead the fuck out of you.
Make you think like we're going to talk about something and talk about something else.
Talk about mental health and then we talk a lot of shit and food and literal poop.
(24:58):
And then a little bit of smattering of fucking mental health over the top of it.
And then music.
And then music.
I'm talking shit. We talk a lot about mental health.
We do. We do talk a lot about mental health. We try to.
But yeah. So there's lots of different things. Lots of different ways to cope with stress.
(25:22):
And not all of these things are going to work.
It depends on what the particular thing is that you're stressed about.
I think about university. You should be stressed about exams.
You should be stressed about deadlines.
That doesn't even have to be in a university or a schooling kind of sense.
You can have deadlines at work. So you can be stressed about those deadlines.
(25:45):
So time deadlines. You'd be stressed about money.
That's the worst thing to be stressed about.
We've done an episode on that sort of thing and how it can affect your mental health.
What's it worth? A few episodes back.
Yep. That was a good one.
Episode 19. 18, 19.
So yeah, you'd be stressed about money.
(26:07):
What else can you be stressed about?
Living situations. I remember maybe a few years back now, post COVID,
especially up here in Queensland, the renting world just turned upside down.
And it was very, very hard to find a place to rent here in Queensland.
(26:31):
A lot of people were migrating up from the South, buying a lot of the houses,
and also moving up here and renting as well.
So yeah, whoever had the more money, whoever could spend more money each week
would be given the property and were able to rent.
That was a very stressful time.
(26:54):
So yeah, that's something to be stressed about.
We're still fucked.
Oh, it is. Absolutely. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I think it's improving, but still shit.
Anyway, look, that's really good.
There's so many different things we could talk about when it comes to stress.
(27:18):
They're all pretty straightforward.
It really just comes down to figure out what it is that you're stressed about.
Try to work around it.
Use some healthy coping mechanisms.
See if you can fix the problem.
If you can't, maybe that's when it's time to reach out to someone,
as we always say, talk to someone about it.
(27:41):
They might have been through a similar situation,
so they might be able to give you some advice or some tips
on how to manage that particular stress.
So yeah.
Any final words of wisdom?
Mr. Snake.
(28:05):
Mr. Snake.
No, because you've been a little bit snakey.
On that note, we're going to...
Move fast to our channel on stress.
(28:26):
We're really good.
We're going to have a word from our sponsors.
All I can think about is vaping.
Fuck.
We're going to have a little break.
Christian's not going to have a vape.
Thanks for reminding me.
We're going to be back.
(28:48):
We're going to be back in a moment to have a chat about some music with you.
Welcome back to this week's episode of the Pain in Our Head podcast.
(29:13):
We've been chatting about stress.
We've been talking about Christian quitting.
We've been talking about ways to manage your stress.
We briefly touched on what can happen to you if you don't manage your stress,
mental health implications.
Not good.
So manage your stress.
I feel like half of this episode has been me saying I really want to vape.
(29:36):
Yeah, probably.
That's okay.
How are you feeling now?
I had a bit of a giggle through the break.
I had a little sippy poo on my drink.
I'm feeling a little bit more refreshed and I don't want to reach through the
screen and punch in the fucking head.
That's good.
That's an improvement.
(29:57):
Excellent.
It is.
No, I do feel a bit better.
This is one of my coping mechanisms.
Recording the podcast is a coping mechanism.
I enjoy doing it.
I feel like I've accomplished something.
It's a good way to clear your head a little bit,
like a bit of a chat with you.
It's a good coping mechanism.
It's calmed me down.
(30:19):
Even though I still really want to have a vape, I'm okay.
Excellent.
I'm glad to hear it.
I'm glad it's working.
Talking to people.
It's a perfect example of how talking to someone can really help.
Even if they're a dickhead.
Even if they are a dickhead.
But hey, I've gotten used to it.
(30:46):
All done.
Pretty good.
I'm rubbing off on you.
Yeah.
This week I'm going to talk about Linkin Park.
I haven't talked about Linkin Park on the podcast.
Surprisingly.
They're not up there for me in terms of one of my favorite all time bands.
(31:09):
I enjoy a fair few of their songs,
but they're not something that I'm just like, oh fuck yeah.
Yeah, I do too.
I really like a lot of their songs and a lot of their music.
I don't keep up with them, so I'm not actually 100% sure.
But haven't they found another vocalist?
I don't think they have.
(31:30):
And then they're doing something with another vocalist.
I could be wrong.
As I said, I don't really keep up.
They did an album where they got a couple of different artists in
and just guest vocals and shit.
Okay.
Well, the song I wanted to chat about was Crawling.
Good song.
(31:52):
Yeah, it's not bad.
Not one of my favorite Linkin Park songs.
No.
I just like this song.
I've been listening to it this week, so I don't know why.
I think it just popped up randomly for me as I was shuffling my Spotify.
(32:13):
I've been smashing Giving Up.
Giving Up by Linkin Park.
That's a good one.
Fucking great one.
That is a fucking long scream.
That is a long scream.
I should try that.
Yeah, I should give that a go.
(32:35):
I'm sure I sent it to you, me doing it.
But I don't think I've given it a go.
Hard.
Maybe it would be.
It's a long fucking scream.
Trying to think of my favorite Linkin Park song.
Faint.
Oh yeah, it's pretty good.
Yeah, that would be my favorite.
(32:57):
Obviously when I first ever heard Linkin Park, it was in the end.
Is that the one from the Transformers?
Or is that the other one?
The one from the Transformers was later than that.
What I've Done.
What I've Done.
That was a great song too actually.
(33:18):
That was a really good way to round out that scene.
I enjoyed that fucking song.
Yeah, yeah.
A lot of people know Num.
That's probably one of their more popular ones.
Crawling's a great song.
I didn't know this.
It was given the Grammy Award for best hard rock performance in 2002.
(33:43):
But it came out in 2000.
24 years ago.
Crazy.
Crazy.
That's insane.
Unbelievable.
Good song, good band.
Great band.
Name about Chester.
Oh yeah, absolutely.
That's what I thought it was.
(34:04):
A stranger we hadn't actually brought up Linkin Park on the podcast.
Considering we're about mental health and music.
We could write a really fucking long list of artists, like extremely successful artists that have died.
Yes.
If you haven't listened to Linkin Park before, crawling's not a bad place to start.
(34:31):
But I'd say you've probably, if you are listening, you've probably heard what I've Done in the end.
And Num are probably the three that even if you didn't know it was Linkin Park,
you probably heard those three songs.
But crawling's good.
I think it's just about being in your head and not being able to get away from the stress of those thoughts.
(34:57):
Great chorus, nice and simple.
Crawling in my skin.
These wounds, they will not heal.
Fear is how I fall.
Confusing what is real.
I don't know.
Just a good song.
I really like the production.
That's one actually thing I really do like about Linkin Park is their production.
Their production value is on point.
And it's not just the instruments that the band members play.
(35:20):
It's all the extra sort of stuff that they've thrown in and that they put on top of it.
That's what really makes that Linkin Park sound.
You can tell it's a Linkin Park sound just by some of that production.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So yeah, it's really cool.
So anyway, I thought I would throw in Linkin Park this week.
I'll chuck it on the playlist.
Go give it a listen.
(35:43):
Oh, if you like.
Okay.
Mine's got nothing to do with mental health at all.
It's just a new Beast in Black song came out and I'm fucking chuffed over it.
Super, super chuffed because I fucking love Beast in Black.
I feel like I've spoken about them, but I don't feel like I've chosen any of their songs in particular to be featured.
(36:06):
I don't know.
I don't think so.
Yeah.
Either way, I fucking love Beast in Black.
And they've got a new album on the way and they released Power of the Beast.
So it's been out for about two weeks now.
It slaps.
It does.
Yannis has got an amazing voice.
(36:29):
You know, it's power metal.
I fucking love power metal.
I know I've said it before.
It's fun.
It is.
I love it.
Power metal is fun.
It's great.
It's an amazing genre.
I love it.
It makes you feel good.
It's uplifting.
It's like it's powerful.
Relief stress.
Yeah.
And I'm a sucker for music that's got really good synth in it.
(36:51):
So, you know, and it's got really good synth in it.
Yeah, it does.
So yeah, absolutely there for it.
Mixed really well.
Yeah.
Don't know who's mixed that, but smick.
Perfect.
Just absolutely top notch.
Yeah.
I can't believe I had never heard a single song of theirs.
(37:13):
Didn't even know they existed until a few weeks ago when you sent me the new song.
And I was pretty bamboozled.
Yeah.
I forgot to send you a list of my favorite songs for you to listen to.
I told you I was going to, but I didn't.
So yeah, click them through because I really like to give them a listen.
Through the week.
Yeah.
(37:35):
They do a Michael Jackson cover of They Don't Really Care About Us and it's fucking brilliant.
Really?
It's brilliant.
I love that song.
I love that Michael Jackson song.
It was brilliant.
I showed it to my dad and he was like, this is great.
Like, this is really good.
And I was like, yeah.
Okay.
I'll be interested in that.
(37:57):
I really like Michael Jackson.
I like lots of his music.
Music's fantastic.
Yeah.
Hmm.
Do you like the alien ant farm?
Yeah, fucking I do.
Yeah.
It's a good version.
It is.
Yeah.
I fucking, I was, you know, I was there when that song was on Rage in the mornings.
(38:20):
Oh yeah.
It's got really cool bass lines.
Yes.
He really does.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Very groovy.
Very, very groovy.
Hmm.
It's very groovy, man.
(38:41):
Hmm.
Was.
Was.
Yeah.
No.
Yeah.
Love lots of his music.
I grew up listening to a lot of his music.
I think you think my mum was a big fan and my brother was also a big fan.
So yeah, I still remember the day actually we finished school, jumped in the car and mum was a little bit upset.
(39:06):
She seemed like she was a bit upset and she was listening to Michael Jackson.
And I remember, yeah, I still remember the day that she told us from driving home and she's like, oh, Michael Jackson died today.
And we're like, huh, wow.
Yeah, I still remember.
I don't know.
Cool story.
Yeah.
What's for dinner?
(39:27):
Yeah, I've never fucking.
Still remember.
I've never like gotten super upset over, you know, famous people dying.
And it's like.
Yeah, I know.
I know.
She was like, you know, she was like balling her eyes out and wasn't like.
It was people that were though.
Would have been.
Yeah.
Yeah.
(39:48):
He was very much.
He was big.
He was big.
He was huge.
Yeah, he was massive.
I was pretty upset about.
Taylor.
Taylor Hawkins.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, I couldn't listen to Foo Fighters for a long time after after he passed.
(40:09):
After I heard that.
Yeah.
No.
Yeah.
Every time.
Every time I just heard one of the songs, I just thought about him and the drums and how much of an incredible drummer he was and how much inspiration I've taken from.
His drumming.
Yeah, that was so pretty upset about that.
But, you know, nothing went and balled my eyes out over.
But yeah.
(40:30):
Interesting.
It's interesting.
I can't think of being upset.
Like, I think I've proven sad that someone that I enjoyed listening to died.
But I don't think I ever felt like, you know.
I can't think of anything.
(40:52):
Yeah.
But I'd say it's one of those things like some of these artists or famous people.
I mean, is it more artists?
I think just because, you know, you have that people have a connection with them through their music.
Yeah.
You know, and I think if they've really hit that person in the right spot and, you know, they've grown up listening to that sort of music.
(41:19):
All that their music and there'll be no more of it anymore.
Then I guess that's a pretty sad thing.
You know, their music might have been a coping mechanism for those people.
You know, so.
Hmm.
Interesting thought.
(41:40):
You know what?
Other song.
Hmm.
What?
Oh, yeah.
You sent me that.
Yeah.
Good song.
They've got great music.
(42:02):
Yeah.
I've seen them like five times.
Yeah.
My sister was a very, very big fan when she was a lot younger.
And we saw them like when they went back before they were even super, super big.
Yeah.
Yeah.
(42:23):
They came and actually did like a, played at a shopping center in Brisbane here.
We used to have a really small stage in the shopping center.
And it wouldn't fit that many people.
You know what?
They're actually they were really good live back then.
This is going back.
Oh, fuck.
This is going back 16 years ago.
(42:44):
But yeah, no, they were really good.
I saw them.
Tiny.
Oh, yeah.
Because we got to meet them.
They're small, smaller than you.
Unbelievable.
Same height.
That's never been proven.
I am.
I watched John Butler Trio.
(43:06):
Oh, OK.
They came to Bundy and they showed up early for their gig that night.
And in like the main street of Bundy, there's like this little,
I don't know, like a couple of steps, like concrete steps.
And they just rocked up and fucking started playing there.
Yeah, OK.
(43:27):
It's pretty sick.
Don't mind a few of their songs.
I've got my cup of tea.
Yeah.
Take it or leave it to be honest.
Pretty much, yeah.
That's cool.
(43:49):
Well, it's a small chat this week, but hey, we release an episode every week.
We're sticking to our schedule.
It stops me from being stressed when we do finally get to record.
Next week, we're going to chat about anxiety.
(44:12):
That's going to be a bigger episode.
Yeah, it's going to be a bigger episode.
And I won't be as stressed out about quitting vaping.
Because you're going to be neck deep in a pack of cigarettes.
No.
I feel like if I can get through tonight, I'll be OK.
(44:33):
If I can get to work tomorrow without caving and getting cigarettes, I should be OK.
Yeah.
I think you can do it.
I'm going to give it my best shot.
That's all you can do.
Get that on the big jobs.
If I can quit.
(44:55):
Good.
Well, yes, anxiety next week.
It's going to be loads to unpack next week.
So excited to talk about those sort of things.
Excited is actually probably not the right word.
Enthusiastic.
Enthusiastic.
Yeah.
Great.
(45:16):
Thanks for tuning in.
Thanks for listening.
As always, check out our YouTube if you're listening on Spotify, Amazon,
Apple Music.
There's some awesome reels that we've been chucking up recently.
Quite funny.
I think so.
Will give you quite the giggle.
I thought so too.
So yeah, check out Instagram and Facebook and stuff like that as well.
(45:37):
Otherwise, we'll see you next week.
It's OK to not be OK.
I can't wait to speak.
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