September 29, 2024 • 40 mins
In this short episode of The Pain In Our Head Podcast, Caleb & Christian discuss the impossible notion of a healthy work-life balance, and the effect it can have on your mental health. Tune in to some terrible jokes and an exciting chat about new released music.
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Welcome to this week's episode of the Pain in Our Head podcast.
Caleb talks about pissing in a trash can.
That was last week.
That was last week.
Uh, episode 34.
This is, how crazy is that?
Yeah.
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Yeah.
That's crazy to think about.
That's 34 weeks of doing the podcast.
Roughly about 30 hours.
Our viewers will never fucking get back.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's exactly right.
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Uh, well, thanks for listening.
Thanks for watching this week's video.
This week, uh, we are going to talk about work-life balance and mental health and all
that good stuff.
And I've got a fair bit of stuff to talk about when it comes to music this week as
well.
Uh, very excited about that part of the podcast.
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Christian might just leave.
Yeah.
I'll go for a smoke.
I'll let you fucking stroke it.
You know, be a fucking circle joke of one person.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Uh, anyway, uh, what's been happening this
week?
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It's the last episode.
I had my birthday.
You did.
And it was a fucking disappointment.
You say that.
Uh, but, uh, I mean, I guess you had to work.
So, you know, how good can your birthday be when you have to go to work?
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Didn't have anyone to hang out with.
So I spent the night gaming with this fucking idiot.
Couldn't even get a dinner for you either.
I was so upset about that.
Couldn't get a win.
No, no, no, but I had fun.
So I had fun.
Yeah.
So it matters.
Um, and then, yeah, I'd had to work on Saturday morning and I can just did adult
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things, I guess for the rest of the weekend, but a cook, uh, I didn't cook,
so I've been cleaning, washing my uniforms and played some fucking computer.
Sounds pretty good.
How about you?
Lots of work.
Lots of work.
Hmm.
Few gigs.
We've been playing more gigs recently.
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Speaking of gigs, I'm off to see Parkway Drive on Friday.
You are?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'm, uh, very keen to hear all about that next week when we record.
When we record, I might be missing a tooth or have a black eye.
Yeah, I hope so.
Cause otherwise you haven't done it right.
Hmm.
No.
Hmm.
Hmm.
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So from what I've heard, uh, their show is pretty good.
So I'm sure you will enjoy yourself.
Hmm.
Yeah.
Hmm.
And I just work just a heap of work and, uh, the, probably the epitome of not a
healthy work life balance, which is funny that we're doing this episode, uh, this
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week.
This is one of the bigger hypocritical fucking episodes.
Yeah.
We're going to sit here for 60 minutes and tell you to have a really healthy
work life balance when in reality, um, we ain't doing it so well.
I've worked six days a week for the last month.
Yeah.
Yeah.
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It's crazy.
It's crazy.
So.
Like if you take, if you take travel time into account, like from when I leave
the house in the morning, when I roll into the house in the evening at this point,
yeah.
Um, it's a 12 hour window.
Yeah.
Yeah, I do.
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I take that into consideration.
I think it's a, I think, I think it's a big part of it because what else can you
do in, in that time when you're traveling to and from work, you know, listen to the
Pain in the Head podcast, uh, but I like, you know, you're stuck, you can't do
anything.
So that, that time is, is basically work, um, that you're not technically getting
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paid for.
But you think about it.
So like it's, it's 12 hours.
It's pretty much bang on 12 hours for me when I leave and arrive.
Yep.
And that's five days a week.
Yep.
So there's 60 hours of my week gone.
And then if I work on a Saturday morning, it's, what am I looking at?
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Uh, another five hours.
Yeah.
There's 65 hours of the week that I've already fucking committed to work.
And then you meant to sleep for up to eight hours every night.
If you're working on a daily basis, like, you know, 12 hours of work in the day.
And then if you somehow manage eight hours of sleep.
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So.
So you're left with fuck all lunch hours.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Four hours a day.
Yeah.
So it's, it's like, how are you supposed to get 50, 50 work life balance?
Like it's just, it's almost impossible.
Is it impossible?
But there are some things that we can do to help improve it.
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Yes.
What can we do?
What can we do?
I was lots of different things.
I mean, I've, I've been.
Jerk it less.
Yeah.
That's, you know, what's a couple of minutes every day.
And.
You know, it's fucking going for a marathon.
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I've been in, you know, at times or parts of my life where I've had two jobs.
Uh, that's crazy.
Yeah.
I've had three jobs as well on the go at one time.
And that's insane.
It's absolutely insane.
And I was working in a packing shed.
I was working at a server and I was a waiter.
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So most days I was working two jobs and then you'd like mix it between which two jobs you're
working because the waiter was always in the, in the evening at like nighttime and the server
when the packing shed were daytime hours.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's crazy.
Yeah. A lot of people have day and night jobs.
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I used to work at a fruit shop during the day.
I'd go home, have a couple of hours of sleep and then I'd work.
Lady of the night.
I was, I was, yes.
Yes.
I'd go and work from 5 PM to like midnight or 1 AM in the morning.
You just admitted that you're a hooker.
Hey.
I called you a lady of the night.
I know.
I was just running with it.
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I used to work in food and beverage.
So, you know.
But at first everyone, Caleb's the hooker.
Very cheap one too.
If you're looking for an easy cheap route in Brisbane, easy man.
Yeah.
But you just get to a point where you just can't, can't do it.
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You know, it's not, it's, it's unsustainable and-
One may refer to it as burnout.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Which we've, we've chatted about burnout before, haven't we?
Have we?
Hmm, there we have. Yeah.
Yeah.
So, so one where we're doing a burnout in the car, there's a thumbnail on YouTube.
It was sick lad, you burn out.
That's the episode and that's the one.
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How that saying goes, but-
Yes, but anyway, so as there's a lot of unsustainable ways,
yes.
Just remembered something.
Yes.
Sorry, it's got nothing to do with the podcast, but I've got to fucking-
That's fine. Look, yeah, do it, do it, do it.
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Right. Can you spin your fingers in different directions?
Spin your fingers in different directions.
I think I would-
Two index fingers.
And just spin them in different directions.
Like rotate them, like rotate them.
Like rotate them. I don't know. I'll have to-
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How I just did it, like, like my hands like that, like, okay.
So that's, that's, they're both spinning the same way.
Right.
They're both going forwards.
Yeah.
Now make one go backwards.
Without having a fucking aneurysm.
Oh, still going this. Yep, yep, no.
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It's fucking-
Yeah, there you go. That's it.
They're going the same way still.
No. It's hard to see on the camera, but no, no, no.
Yeah, I got that worked out.
Fucking. So that's forward.
Yeah.
That's...
Oh, fucking, I can't.
I don't know, I can do it.
That's weird. What made you think of that?
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I moved my hands, I was talking and I was like, fuck, I remember.
Okay. Well, there's that other thing you can do.
I used to be able to do it really well.
It was fun that I was doing it with you a while ago and it was like,
you do the opposite fingers.
Oh yeah, that one tripped me up.
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What's made this, what sprung this upon?
I was just moving my hands and I fucking dropped it in my memory.
Nice.
It popped up on Insta like the other day and I was talking to my housemate,
I was like, can you fucking do it?
And she tried it and she got an aneurysm too.
She was just like, and I was just like, I can't fucking do it.
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Cool.
You were off being a fucking rock star, so I couldn't even talk to you about it.
Yeah, well, it was on Thursday. Thursday night.
It was on Sunday.
On Sunday. Oh yeah, we were recording.
Yeah. Yes.
Yeah, gosh.
It all just blends into one.
See, this is, I'm having the same problem at the moment, work-life balance.
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I just feel like it's just don't stop.
I don't class the podcast as work, so I enjoy doing this and it's good for me.
Yeah, I find it fucking cathartic.
I feel good after recording an episode.
Like I finished recording the episode and I was like, it's better.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Sense of accomplishment.
I've been doing a lot of stuff.
I just get to bully you and take my frustrations out for fucking 55 minutes.
55 minutes, like.
That's going to cost you about $200.
I'm going to start invoicing you.
I'm going to start charging you for all the fucking carries.
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I'll go broke.
Yeah, so we've been doing a lot of work with the band lately and other people as well.
I've been doing session musician work and doing our band work as well.
Not just performing, but then also been doing some recording stuff.
And it's the work that you got to do at home and it's a fair bit.
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It's a fair whack.
So I'd work being a musician.
It is because if you want to be a musician, you usually got to have it on the job as well.
Because it's just the way it is.
I hope it doesn't pay the bills.
No, no, it does not. Not sustainably anyway.
So did you actually just toss it?
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It's too hard to put on silent.
This is why you have telemarketers calling you about winning a new phone.
It's got a life proof case on it.
So yeah, anyway, getting back to it, but work life balance.
It's important to have because when you don't have work life balance,
it can really affect your mental health.
Obviously we talked about how it caused burnout and what burnout does to you.
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But you can also lower your productivity at work and it can change your whole attitude as well.
Like towards your job, you might start the job thinking like, this is my dream job.
And then fast forward six months into your career and you're being worked to the bone
and you don't have any time for yourself and suddenly you're thinking, I hate this job.
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Yeah. Yep. That's right.
And then you start taking more sick days, get more moody.
Fuck off.
I wasn't having a jam.
I wasn't.
So yeah, but on mental health org website, they say that it's 50-50.
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You know, that's a work life balance.
I think that's unrealistic.
I think you want to have more than 60-40.
If you're doing an eight hour day, it's achievable.
Because then you break it down.
It's like, all right, eight hours of work, eight hours of me, eight hours of sleep.
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There you go.
Yeah, that's right.
Which again is also not 50-50.
But yeah, no, no.
Yeah, I'm not saying that's not true.
It's such a, it's a hard thing to balance because some people need to work more or different jobs,
you know, for different amounts of income that they need.
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And all those things weigh into it as well.
You know, obviously if you've got kids or if you've got other commitments and things like that,
that you need to do.
So.
Got three kids.
Oh, what comes to me?
Am I the eldest?
Yeah, because you keep calling me daddy.
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No one was supposed to know about that.
So.
Now all 15 people do.
Yeah.
So 50-50, but I like to try and strive for 60-40 myself.
When I find that I'm getting more towards that 80-20, that's when I know I'm,
I start getting a little bit, I start getting a little cranky.
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So.
Yeah.
It was like, go back to the end of last year.
I think it was where I was doing the 12 hour days.
It was like, you know, it was 5 AM start, 5 30 finish.
And then you add that hour, fucking travel time, either side of it.
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Like suddenly you're looking at a fucking 14 hour day.
Yep.
And it's just like you'd roll in at night time.
You'd leave for work.
It was dark.
You'd roll in from work.
It was fucking dark.
And it's like, cool.
Now I'm going to have a feed and I'm going to go straight to bed because I'm fucking wrecked.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's exactly right.
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I forgot what I was going to say there, but it's one of those things where, yeah,
you just having that balance just allows you to, that's what I was going to say.
You want to be able to enjoy your leisure activities.
You know, if you're working too much and even when you are coming home or whatever it is,
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you don't feel like doing any of those fun, exciting things that you really enjoy doing.
It takes the enjoyment out of it.
So, you know, you might be worrying about work when you're at home.
That's one of the things that they say is, you know, not part of a good, healthy work life balance,
as well as not having enough time to sleep or eat properly.
So those are the things that help with that balance is, yeah, not thinking about work.
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I know I hate that.
I used to be the manager and stuff and you'd think about work at home and then you're doing
work at home and then you're doing work at work and no, I cut that shit out.
That is a number one thing.
If you're doing that and you're finding it hard, you feel like you have a really bad
work life balance.
It's really eating away at your mental health, your cranky, your stress, sleeping properly.
You're taking it out on your friends and family.
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If you're thinking about work at home, stop it.
That's just, yeah, like, you're not being paid.
Number one step.
No, no, yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely not.
No, I would just cut that out straight away.
So once I did that a long time ago, it definitely helped.
I used to be the same.
Like when I was working on the farm, I'd like be thinking about what I had to do the next day.
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Like what was coming up, what the weather was going to be like.
It's like you're constantly thinking like when you're at home and it's like, no,
I don't want to think about this.
I want to shut down and not fucking think about this because yeah, you just don't shut
down.
You don't switch off.
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It's just everything becomes fucking work.
Exactly.
Yeah.
You need to like have that kind of like definitive line between, all right, I finished work for
the day, this is my time.
I understand like, you know, like managers and stuff like that.
It is hard to separate, especially like if you've got like, you know, a lot of workers
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underneath you and stuff, it's like, it is hard, but there needs to be like some separation
between when you're home and when you're at work.
It's like, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, absolutely.
Yeah.
And I mean, that's what, you know, days off are for that.
They're super important.
You know, um, what are they?
Yeah.
Well, this is it.
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Like, you know, six day working weeks are just insane.
You know, even doing seven.
And that's the other thing when you have more than one job, sometimes you don't get that
overlap.
Like I never used to have that overlap.
I was working every day for such a long time and you just burn out.
Um, so yeah, tax to the shit house.
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Yeah, you do.
You really do.
You really do.
It's not worth paying the tax man that much money, especially to only get a little bit
more.
I haven't done my tax yet.
Lucky you.
I'm normally on to it straight away.
Yeah.
I was on to mine straight away this year, which is the first for me.
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I'm usually the other way around.
I usually take forever.
Anyway, so in terms of helping with the work life balance, there's not always, you know,
ways to make changes at work.
Work is work.
It's going to be busy.
It's going to be whatever it is.
But there are some things and you can't just get rid of work entirely as much as that would
be nice.
Um, not just, you know, that would be nice to wake up one day and be like, hmm, don't
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need to go to work anymore.
I guess that's what I would honestly adapt the, um, the 14 year old to.
I would adapt the, um, the four day working week if I could.
Yeah.
Well, there's a, there's a bunch of studies on how good that's been for people and their
mental health and their work life balance.
And it's been trialed in different places.
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And apparently it's been doing, I think there's lots of different workplaces, even over
here that do a similar thing.
If I, even if I had to work a 12 hour shift for four days of the week, like to get you
48 hours for the week or whatever.
Yeah.
What's it? It's like 38, isn't it?
Well, 38, 38.
Yeah.
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Yeah.
Yeah.
Cause that's like seven and a half hours a day.
Yeah.
With the, with the break.
Yeah.
Don't remember the last time I fucking 38 hours in a week.
I honestly fuck it up.
Yeah.
It's been a while.
That's terrible.
That's crazy.
Yeah.
So look, there's different things you can do.
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Obviously just, just think about like, what is it that's causing you the stress?
Where's the unhappiness coming from?
Is it, is it because you are working too much?
If it is reflect on that work and what it might be.
And then just reprioritize.
I do that at least once every three months, sort of have a look at where things are, how
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much I'm working, whether that be my, you know, different things that I do.
Just prioritize and reshuffle things around.
Cause it's really important.
Cause you're going to, you need to fit in time with, you know, your friends and your
family, yourself.
We spoke about that, been speaking about that this week, over the phone, downtime and
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having you time and how important that is.
That's really important.
Not, not just having time off for family and friends and things that you like to do,
but just having your own personal time and how important that is for your mental health.
So.
Yeah.
You need that time to be able to, and like, like it's also sometimes it's, it's time
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just for nothing.
Yeah.
Like, you know, you've got, you might have your hobbies or your sport commitments or
whatever outside of work that you, you still do.
But to me, I don't, I don't count them as downtime a lot of the time.
Like it's like, if I was still hitting the gym regularly, like I wouldn't count that
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as downtime for myself because it's a commitment.
It's something that I've got to go and do.
It's like, you know, yeah, I, it's a hobby, but I still don't count that as downtime.
Like it's nice to just have that window of time where it's like, oh, I'm going to
do this, and then where it's like, I can do whatever the fuck I want to do.
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There's no one dictating.
You have to be here at this time.
This activity needs to be done.
This chore needs to be done.
So no, I need that bit of time where it's that's my time and I'm gonna do
whatever I want with it.
Yeah.
Yeah, absolutely.
It's important to have like that, that time, even if it's not, you know, every day, like
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weekend or something like that, you just, you need to reset yourself.
It can, doesn't even have to be long, like, you know, four hours, two hours.
Um, I think two hours is too short.
Me personally, I think I need a good four hour window, like a four hour, like minimum
cause that's, that's a good, good chunk of time, you know, to, to go and decide what
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it is you really want to spend that time doing, and then you've got enough time there
as well to go and do that something.
Uh, yeah, cause that's, that's the worst thing in the world.
Like, no, I've got, I've got an hour here.
No, you don't.
Like by the time you think about what it is that you want to go and do,
Tom, you get halfway through it.
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It's, you know, the time's over.
So you need, you need good, good four hours, I reckon.
Uh, well, that's, that's pretty much it.
You know, look to make some changes if you're working too much and you want to try and
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reduce that, or you want to need a change in some hours, you know, talk to work about it,
obviously, uh, they're all these things are just, but it's kind of something that it's,
it's known like people, we know, we know how to manage this.
I think we're just really, we get too caught up in how busy we are and how productive we
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want to be that we forget to sometimes just have a thing, have a thing, reprioritize,
think about what it is and then see if we can make some changes to make that work life
balance a little bit more healthy.
I think there's also like a pretty unhealthy like attitude towards working hours in Australia,
especially with guys, it's, it's kind of seen to be a bragging riot.
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It's like, oh, you only work 50 hours this week.
Like, I remember when I had my first job, I worked fucking 72 hours this week.
Yeah.
And it's like, yeah, cool.
Like, yeah, yeah.
And I've, I've known so many people that are like that.
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It's like, oh, I've got, I've got like months worth of annual leave and sick leave banked
up because I haven't taken any annual leave in the last year.
I haven't had any sick days since I started.
It was just like, cool.
Yeah.
Congratulations.
Yeah.
We're just on that too.
Like everyone's different.
So, you know, you may work 20 hours a week and to you, that feels like working a 38 hour
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week or a 40 hour or 50 hour week, whereas someone else might work a 40 hour week.
And you know, that, that's comfortable for them.
You might only work 20 hours and you might feel like that's, you know, that's your maximum.
So it's, it's finding that balance too, finding out how many hours a week work for you.
So, yeah.
Yeah.
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Exactly.
It's a balance thing and find what works and try to make it fit.
Yep.
Yep.
Balance those scales and yeah, that's things you can do.
I mean, I used to, I never stick to them.
That's why I never really do them anymore, but you know, calendars and, and things like that.
And, you know, sometimes visuals can help me.
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So I've always been a visual person so I can visualize what like a week looks like.
That sometimes helps, but I stick to it for like a week and then it goes out the door.
So, you know, lots of things like that you can do.
Planners and diaries.
Yeah.
Planners and diaries.
I don't like writing things down though.
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If I'm going to do it, I've tried diaries so many times.
I started off really good and then I just fucking stop.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's a good idea.
It's a nice thought.
Yeah.
What else was I going to say?
So we've pretty much talked about-
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Pretty simple topic.
The nice thing is it really is, yeah, understand your rights too, like your working rights.
Yeah, that's true.
If you're not sure about them, like look them up depending on where you are, what region,
what country, whatever it is.
Look at your cost.
Overtime isn't compulsory.
No, no, that's right.
Overtime isn't compulsory.
Well, not here anyway.
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I can't imagine it would be anywhere, but yeah.
So make sure you know your rights as a working citizen in your region, wherever you're from
and speak up about it too.
You know, you don't have to be doing everything that you're told, even if you think it's wrong.
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So speak up.
Work smarter, not harder to.
Out of the people.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, all that stuff.
Take breaks.
I don't take breaks.
It's terrible.
Yeah.
I do now.
When I was doing coal deliveries, you had to fucking force me to take my breaks.
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I've started to.
I've started to take them more.
I didn't early because I was still learning the job.
I was still learning the job.
I was still learning the job, but I was slow.
Now I'm faster at the job.
It gets to a point where I'm like, I've got an hour before I have to do the next job.
I'm going to have a break.
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All right.
That's it.
That's it for our mental health chat this week.
Work-life balance.
Don't let it get unhealthy.
Keep a healthy one.
You're happier.
Your mental health will feel better about your mental health.
You won't be moody and you won't take it out on the people that you love and care about.
That's really important because then it just spirals.
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Yeah, it's not nice when you take your mood out on people, Caleb.
Exactly, Christian.
I've never done it to you.
You've done it to me, you little bitch.
I don't know.
I think there's been a time.
I'd have to think about it.
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Welcome back to this week's episode of the Pain in Our Head podcast.
Thanks for tuning in.
Thanks for listening.
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Thanks for watching.
We've been talking about work-life balance and mental health.
It's been right.
It's been short.
It's been short, quick and sweet.
It's like us.
Short.
Very fucking short.
Sweet.
We're going to talk about some music.
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Are we?
Yeah.
I do.
I do.
I'm going to appreciate it, too.
Oh, am I?
Yeah, because you're obsessed with it, too.
Oh, I'm interested now.
There we go.
So we were playing PUBG.
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I knew exactly.
I was waiting.
He's going to know.
All right. Yes, go on.
And Krug started doing a dance for us in game.
A dance.
And you can join in when you're in the same team.
So you can press the F button and your character joins in and the music plays.
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And I was just like, this song is kind of catchy.
By the time the lobby started, I was like, I need to know what this fucking song is because it was really catchy.
And so that song is Just a Feeling by Jane and the Boy.
So I did a quick Google search on the lyrics I picked up while I was listening to it and found the song and added it to my playlist.
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And have since smashed the ever loving shit out of that song.
And every time we play with Krug, we make Krug do the dance so that we can join in before the match starts.
And then we're all doing our little fucking.
Just fucking living, living the best life.
Love it.
It's good. It's catchy.
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It is. It's really, really catchy.
Just. And it's just a pop song.
Yeah, I know, right?
Us liking a pop song. How weird is that?
I almost feel dirty liking it.
I listen to everything, so I gave up on feeling dirty about music a long time ago.
I used to be a fucking elitist, so I used to be one of those guys like, I can't listen to.
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I can't listen to this. It's it's not metal.
Now it's just like.
It's a catchy fucking song.
I'm going to add that to my playlist.
And now whenever I open YouTube or iTunes, the algorithm has a fucking aneurysm trying to work out what song to suggest me.
It's like, well, does he want to hear metal or does he want to hear pop or is it country?
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Is it fucking electronic?
Is it some weird fucking foreign music?
So yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
It has a full mental breakdown for algorithm.
Yeah.
Yes, that's my song for the week.
It's catchy as shit.
And if you go and listen to it, you'll see exactly what I mean.
It's good. It's addictive.
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It is. I'll add it to the playlist.
I will. I've got to go back and add a fair few songs to the playlist.
I might make that my job tomorrow.
Yeah.
Other than that, I think I've just been listening to the same shit that I listened to.
It's like nothing super exciting has come out.
No, the YouTube you showed me just before.
It's pretty cool.
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Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah.
I don't remember old Matt's name, but it was just like a like a prayer sung in the style of ghost.
I think we've spoken about ghosts and I'm pretty sure we've spoken about like a prayer before as well, actually.
Yeah. By Madonna. Yeah. Yeah. I think we have.
Hmm.
Yeah. Fucking I love ghosts and I love that song as well.
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So listening to that song in the style of ghost fucking amazing.
Yeah. He did a really good job.
He really did. It's really interesting when people can actually do that.
It's like take an existing song and do it in the style of another artist because it's not just like, oh, let's make it make the vocal sound like the other person.
It's like, no, here's the whole fucking song changed to to sound like it.
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And that was from Steve Welsh. Yes. On YouTube.
Yeah. No, I thoroughly enjoyed that.
It was really good.
It really, really good.
And it got me clicked into another one.
He did Nirvana's Nevermind if it was done by 12 different bands.
Went through all the tracks and and yeah, imitated a different band for each of those tracks on that album.
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So that was really good.
Thoroughly enjoyed that.
Hmm. Have a look on that. Have a look at that on YouTube.
It's cool.
All right.
I know you're fucking frothing at the bit for this one.
I am. I am.
I'm dancing in my pants.
On Friday, last Friday, the 20th, see this new album, The Surface Seems So Far, finally came out.
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It's amazing.
It's everything I thought it would be and more.
Remember how like a little while ago when the singles were releasing this, this you did good.
Right. This weighed on me.
You were like, oh, what are the two singles are the only good songs?
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And when the album comes out, it's going to be shit.
That's been weighing on my brain since you said that.
And I have.
It's a legitimate fear.
And I have been fearing the fact that it was going to be really, really, really bad.
And thank goodness to my relief, it's not.
I enjoy every single track.
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I haven't listened to it.
Which is that's fair.
Common for me, though, is there's not be hard to find a track that I don't like theirs, to be honest.
Actually, I was talking to Taylor about this the other day.
The only tracks I know one of their tracks.
Yeah.
I only don't like their tracks if it's featuring someone else.
I like that.
I like the song as soon as it's got a feature, because usually they'll release the song of just them.
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And then they'll release another version with a feature.
I usually don't like the feature.
So I like that fucking offspring song with Ed Sheeran better than the original.
Oh, really?
Yep.
What's that?
Million miles away.
Oh, yep.
Yep.
I like the original, but that live version with Ed Sheeran on it, I fucking absolutely love the shit out of that.
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Yeah.
Anyway, tell us more.
Not the offspring.
Oh, no, it's pretty much it, really.
It's got 11 tracks.
My favorite.
If I have to pick one, one that I've probably been binging the most, is Paint the World.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Really cool track.
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Really, really cool.
A lot of these songs are heavier than I was expecting them to be.
So I was pretty happy with that.
There's a lot more metal undertones to a few of the songs than a lot of their past albums, rather than a lot more alternative.
This is quite very heavy rock and then with a splash of metal as well.
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So I really, really enjoyed the whole thing.
And I'm hoping that a deluxe album comes out because it's not very like see that to just do an 11 track album.
Usually there's more.
So patiently waiting.
But yeah, I'm going to rush up to the store tomorrow and go grab the CD because I always buy the CD.
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Good fans.
Yes, yes, I like to support.
Did you end up listening to those links that I sent you?
The Bandcamp link?
Bandcamp.
Oh, no, have you done your bass?
No, haven't yet.
But you've sent me one in the past.
You've definitely sent me one in the past.
Yeah, but I haven't listened to the recent ones that you've sent.
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Fuck, good songs on there.
I listened to the whole album.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Horrible songs.
Horrible fucking songs.
In terms of their meaning.
Yeah.
It's like Steel Cap Debortion Clinic.
Preemptive Rape Defense.
Oh, shit.
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I came up with the names.
Gumbi and Tomo.
I had nothing to do with it.
I didn't even come up with lyrics.
The only song I helped with lyrics was They Came From Shed 9.
Right, okay.
Didn't do shit.
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Why do I find that hard to believe?
I didn't.
Oh, really?
Okay.
Wow.
Nice.
You guys.
Sorry, you sent it to the bus.
I had nothing to do with it.
That's great.
But yeah, that's all I've been listening to nonstop, on repeat, since Friday.
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Yeah, no, it's been great.
So really, really good.
So yeah, surface seems so far.
Go give a listen and paint the world.
Yeah, well, don't.
You were like...
I was trying to think of one that you would like.
Beneath the Veil.
Try to heal, maybe.
I just don't know which ones you'll like, but there'll be one I reckon you'll enjoy.
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Anyway.
Anyway, I've got no idea what we're going to chat about next week.
Yeah, it's a surprise.
Yeah, it's going to be a surprise next week.
Yeah, we haven't done that for a while.
For us as well.
For us.
We'll figure it out next week.
We have like a big creative binge where it's like, all right, what about this and this and this and this and this?
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And it's like you write down like six topics and it's like, yeah, sick, we're set.
And then you get to the end of the six topics that you've written down and it's just like, shit, we're fucked.
Yeah.
I think there's still three that we've got written down, but I can't remember them for the life of me.
So yeah, anyway.
That sucks to suck.
You get that in the big jobs.
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Squat in there, man.
Oh, thanks for listening.
It's been a really short episode this week.
We'll be back next week with a something different to talk about.
Otherwise, have a really good week.
We'll see you again next week.
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Welcome to this week's episode of the Pain in Our Head podcast.
Caleb talks about pissing in a trash can.
That was last week.
That was last week.
Uh, episode 34.
This is, how crazy is that?
Yeah.
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Yeah.
That's crazy to think about.
That's 34 weeks of doing the podcast.
Roughly about 30 hours.
Our viewers will never fucking get back.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's exactly right.
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Uh, well, thanks for listening.
Thanks for watching this week's video.
This week, uh, we are going to talk about work-life balance and mental health and all
that good stuff.
And I've got a fair bit of stuff to talk about when it comes to music this week as
well.
Uh, very excited about that part of the podcast.
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Christian might just leave.
Yeah.
I'll go for a smoke.
I'll let you fucking stroke it.
You know, be a fucking circle joke of one person.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Uh, anyway, uh, what's been happening this
week?
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It's the last episode.
I had my birthday.
You did.
And it was a fucking disappointment.
You say that.
Uh, but, uh, I mean, I guess you had to work.
So, you know, how good can your birthday be when you have to go to work?
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Didn't have anyone to hang out with.
So I spent the night gaming with this fucking idiot.
Couldn't even get a dinner for you either.
I was so upset about that.
Couldn't get a win.
No, no, no, but I had fun.
So I had fun.
Yeah.
So it matters.
Um, and then, yeah, I'd had to work on Saturday morning and I can just did adult
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things, I guess for the rest of the weekend, but a cook, uh, I didn't cook,
so I've been cleaning, washing my uniforms and played some fucking computer.
Sounds pretty good.
How about you?
Lots of work.
Lots of work.
Hmm.
Few gigs.
We've been playing more gigs recently.
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Speaking of gigs, I'm off to see Parkway Drive on Friday.
You are?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'm, uh, very keen to hear all about that next week when we record.
When we record, I might be missing a tooth or have a black eye.
Yeah, I hope so.
Cause otherwise you haven't done it right.
Hmm.
No.
Hmm.
Hmm.
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So from what I've heard, uh, their show is pretty good.
So I'm sure you will enjoy yourself.
Hmm.
Yeah.
Hmm.
And I just work just a heap of work and, uh, the, probably the epitome of not a
healthy work life balance, which is funny that we're doing this episode, uh, this
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week.
This is one of the bigger hypocritical fucking episodes.
Yeah.
We're going to sit here for 60 minutes and tell you to have a really healthy
work life balance when in reality, um, we ain't doing it so well.
I've worked six days a week for the last month.
Yeah.
Yeah.
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It's crazy.
It's crazy.
So.
Like if you take, if you take travel time into account, like from when I leave
the house in the morning, when I roll into the house in the evening at this point,
yeah.
Um, it's a 12 hour window.
Yeah.
Yeah, I do.
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I take that into consideration.
I think it's a, I think, I think it's a big part of it because what else can you
do in, in that time when you're traveling to and from work, you know, listen to the
Pain in the Head podcast, uh, but I like, you know, you're stuck, you can't do
anything.
So that, that time is, is basically work, um, that you're not technically getting
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paid for.
But you think about it.
So like it's, it's 12 hours.
It's pretty much bang on 12 hours for me when I leave and arrive.
Yep.
And that's five days a week.
Yep.
So there's 60 hours of my week gone.
And then if I work on a Saturday morning, it's, what am I looking at?
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Uh, another five hours.
Yeah.
There's 65 hours of the week that I've already fucking committed to work.
And then you meant to sleep for up to eight hours every night.
If you're working on a daily basis, like, you know, 12 hours of work in the day.
And then if you somehow manage eight hours of sleep.
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So.
So you're left with fuck all lunch hours.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Four hours a day.
Yeah.
So it's, it's like, how are you supposed to get 50, 50 work life balance?
Like it's just, it's almost impossible.
Is it impossible?
But there are some things that we can do to help improve it.
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Yes.
What can we do?
What can we do?
I was lots of different things.
I mean, I've, I've been.
Jerk it less.
Yeah.
That's, you know, what's a couple of minutes every day.
And.
You know, it's fucking going for a marathon.
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I've been in, you know, at times or parts of my life where I've had two jobs.
Uh, that's crazy.
Yeah.
I've had three jobs as well on the go at one time.
And that's insane.
It's absolutely insane.
And I was working in a packing shed.
I was working at a server and I was a waiter.
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So most days I was working two jobs and then you'd like mix it between which two jobs you're
working because the waiter was always in the, in the evening at like nighttime and the server
when the packing shed were daytime hours.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's crazy.
Yeah. A lot of people have day and night jobs.
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I used to work at a fruit shop during the day.
I'd go home, have a couple of hours of sleep and then I'd work.
Lady of the night.
I was, I was, yes.
Yes.
I'd go and work from 5 PM to like midnight or 1 AM in the morning.
You just admitted that you're a hooker.
Hey.
I called you a lady of the night.
I know.
I was just running with it.
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I used to work in food and beverage.
So, you know.
But at first everyone, Caleb's the hooker.
Very cheap one too.
If you're looking for an easy cheap route in Brisbane, easy man.
Yeah.
But you just get to a point where you just can't, can't do it.
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You know, it's not, it's, it's unsustainable and-
One may refer to it as burnout.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Which we've, we've chatted about burnout before, haven't we?
Have we?
Hmm, there we have. Yeah.
Yeah.
So, so one where we're doing a burnout in the car, there's a thumbnail on YouTube.
It was sick lad, you burn out.
That's the episode and that's the one.
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How that saying goes, but-
Yes, but anyway, so as there's a lot of unsustainable ways,
yes.
Just remembered something.
Yes.
Sorry, it's got nothing to do with the podcast, but I've got to fucking-
That's fine. Look, yeah, do it, do it, do it.
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Right. Can you spin your fingers in different directions?
Spin your fingers in different directions.
I think I would-
Two index fingers.
And just spin them in different directions.
Like rotate them, like rotate them.
Like rotate them. I don't know. I'll have to-
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How I just did it, like, like my hands like that, like, okay.
So that's, that's, they're both spinning the same way.
Right.
They're both going forwards.
Yeah.
Now make one go backwards.
Without having a fucking aneurysm.
Oh, still going this. Yep, yep, no.
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It's fucking-
Yeah, there you go. That's it.
They're going the same way still.
No. It's hard to see on the camera, but no, no, no.
Yeah, I got that worked out.
Fucking. So that's forward.
Yeah.
That's...
Oh, fucking, I can't.
I don't know, I can do it.
That's weird. What made you think of that?
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I moved my hands, I was talking and I was like, fuck, I remember.
Okay. Well, there's that other thing you can do.
I used to be able to do it really well.
It was fun that I was doing it with you a while ago and it was like,
you do the opposite fingers.
Oh yeah, that one tripped me up.
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What's made this, what sprung this upon?
I was just moving my hands and I fucking dropped it in my memory.
Nice.
It popped up on Insta like the other day and I was talking to my housemate,
I was like, can you fucking do it?
And she tried it and she got an aneurysm too.
She was just like, and I was just like, I can't fucking do it.
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Cool.
You were off being a fucking rock star, so I couldn't even talk to you about it.
Yeah, well, it was on Thursday. Thursday night.
It was on Sunday.
On Sunday. Oh yeah, we were recording.
Yeah. Yes.
Yeah, gosh.
It all just blends into one.
See, this is, I'm having the same problem at the moment, work-life balance.
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I just feel like it's just don't stop.
I don't class the podcast as work, so I enjoy doing this and it's good for me.
Yeah, I find it fucking cathartic.
I feel good after recording an episode.
Like I finished recording the episode and I was like, it's better.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Sense of accomplishment.
I've been doing a lot of stuff.
I just get to bully you and take my frustrations out for fucking 55 minutes.
55 minutes, like.
That's going to cost you about $200.
I'm going to start invoicing you.
I'm going to start charging you for all the fucking carries.
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I'll go broke.
Yeah, so we've been doing a lot of work with the band lately and other people as well.
I've been doing session musician work and doing our band work as well.
Not just performing, but then also been doing some recording stuff.
And it's the work that you got to do at home and it's a fair bit.
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It's a fair whack.
So I'd work being a musician.
It is because if you want to be a musician, you usually got to have it on the job as well.
Because it's just the way it is.
I hope it doesn't pay the bills.
No, no, it does not. Not sustainably anyway.
So did you actually just toss it?
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It's too hard to put on silent.
This is why you have telemarketers calling you about winning a new phone.
It's got a life proof case on it.
So yeah, anyway, getting back to it, but work life balance.
It's important to have because when you don't have work life balance,
it can really affect your mental health.
Obviously we talked about how it caused burnout and what burnout does to you.
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But you can also lower your productivity at work and it can change your whole attitude as well.
Like towards your job, you might start the job thinking like, this is my dream job.
And then fast forward six months into your career and you're being worked to the bone
and you don't have any time for yourself and suddenly you're thinking, I hate this job.
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Yeah. Yep. That's right.
And then you start taking more sick days, get more moody.
Fuck off.
I wasn't having a jam.
I wasn't.
So yeah, but on mental health org website, they say that it's 50-50.
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You know, that's a work life balance.
I think that's unrealistic.
I think you want to have more than 60-40.
If you're doing an eight hour day, it's achievable.
Because then you break it down.
It's like, all right, eight hours of work, eight hours of me, eight hours of sleep.
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There you go.
Yeah, that's right.
Which again is also not 50-50.
But yeah, no, no.
Yeah, I'm not saying that's not true.
It's such a, it's a hard thing to balance because some people need to work more or different jobs,
you know, for different amounts of income that they need.
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And all those things weigh into it as well.
You know, obviously if you've got kids or if you've got other commitments and things like that,
that you need to do.
So.
Got three kids.
Oh, what comes to me?
Am I the eldest?
Yeah, because you keep calling me daddy.
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No one was supposed to know about that.
So.
Now all 15 people do.
Yeah.
So 50-50, but I like to try and strive for 60-40 myself.
When I find that I'm getting more towards that 80-20, that's when I know I'm,
I start getting a little bit, I start getting a little cranky.
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So.
Yeah.
It was like, go back to the end of last year.
I think it was where I was doing the 12 hour days.
It was like, you know, it was 5 AM start, 5 30 finish.
And then you add that hour, fucking travel time, either side of it.
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Like suddenly you're looking at a fucking 14 hour day.
Yep.
And it's just like you'd roll in at night time.
You'd leave for work.
It was dark.
You'd roll in from work.
It was fucking dark.
And it's like, cool.
Now I'm going to have a feed and I'm going to go straight to bed because I'm fucking wrecked.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's exactly right.
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I forgot what I was going to say there, but it's one of those things where, yeah,
you just having that balance just allows you to, that's what I was going to say.
You want to be able to enjoy your leisure activities.
You know, if you're working too much and even when you are coming home or whatever it is,
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you don't feel like doing any of those fun, exciting things that you really enjoy doing.
It takes the enjoyment out of it.
So, you know, you might be worrying about work when you're at home.
That's one of the things that they say is, you know, not part of a good, healthy work life balance,
as well as not having enough time to sleep or eat properly.
So those are the things that help with that balance is, yeah, not thinking about work.
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I know I hate that.
I used to be the manager and stuff and you'd think about work at home and then you're doing
work at home and then you're doing work at work and no, I cut that shit out.
That is a number one thing.
If you're doing that and you're finding it hard, you feel like you have a really bad
work life balance.
It's really eating away at your mental health, your cranky, your stress, sleeping properly.
You're taking it out on your friends and family.
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If you're thinking about work at home, stop it.
That's just, yeah, like, you're not being paid.
Number one step.
No, no, yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely not.
No, I would just cut that out straight away.
So once I did that a long time ago, it definitely helped.
I used to be the same.
Like when I was working on the farm, I'd like be thinking about what I had to do the next day.
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Like what was coming up, what the weather was going to be like.
It's like you're constantly thinking like when you're at home and it's like, no,
I don't want to think about this.
I want to shut down and not fucking think about this because yeah, you just don't shut
down.
You don't switch off.
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It's just everything becomes fucking work.
Exactly.
Yeah.
You need to like have that kind of like definitive line between, all right, I finished work for
the day, this is my time.
I understand like, you know, like managers and stuff like that.
It is hard to separate, especially like if you've got like, you know, a lot of workers
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underneath you and stuff, it's like, it is hard, but there needs to be like some separation
between when you're home and when you're at work.
It's like, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, absolutely.
Yeah.
And I mean, that's what, you know, days off are for that.
They're super important.
You know, um, what are they?
Yeah.
Well, this is it.
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Like, you know, six day working weeks are just insane.
You know, even doing seven.
And that's the other thing when you have more than one job, sometimes you don't get that
overlap.
Like I never used to have that overlap.
I was working every day for such a long time and you just burn out.
Um, so yeah, tax to the shit house.
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Yeah, you do.
You really do.
You really do.
It's not worth paying the tax man that much money, especially to only get a little bit
more.
I haven't done my tax yet.
Lucky you.
I'm normally on to it straight away.
Yeah.
I was on to mine straight away this year, which is the first for me.
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I'm usually the other way around.
I usually take forever.
Anyway, so in terms of helping with the work life balance, there's not always, you know,
ways to make changes at work.
Work is work.
It's going to be busy.
It's going to be whatever it is.
But there are some things and you can't just get rid of work entirely as much as that would
be nice.
Um, not just, you know, that would be nice to wake up one day and be like, hmm, don't
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need to go to work anymore.
I guess that's what I would honestly adapt the, um, the 14 year old to.
I would adapt the, um, the four day working week if I could.
Yeah.
Well, there's a, there's a bunch of studies on how good that's been for people and their
mental health and their work life balance.
And it's been trialed in different places.
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And apparently it's been doing, I think there's lots of different workplaces, even over
here that do a similar thing.
If I, even if I had to work a 12 hour shift for four days of the week, like to get you
48 hours for the week or whatever.
Yeah.
What's it? It's like 38, isn't it?
Well, 38, 38.
Yeah.
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Yeah.
Yeah.
Cause that's like seven and a half hours a day.
Yeah.
With the, with the break.
Yeah.
Don't remember the last time I fucking 38 hours in a week.
I honestly fuck it up.
Yeah.
It's been a while.
That's terrible.
That's crazy.
Yeah.
So look, there's different things you can do.
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Obviously just, just think about like, what is it that's causing you the stress?
Where's the unhappiness coming from?
Is it, is it because you are working too much?
If it is reflect on that work and what it might be.
And then just reprioritize.
I do that at least once every three months, sort of have a look at where things are, how
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much I'm working, whether that be my, you know, different things that I do.
Just prioritize and reshuffle things around.
Cause it's really important.
Cause you're going to, you need to fit in time with, you know, your friends and your
family, yourself.
We spoke about that, been speaking about that this week, over the phone, downtime and
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having you time and how important that is.
That's really important.
Not, not just having time off for family and friends and things that you like to do,
but just having your own personal time and how important that is for your mental health.
So.
Yeah.
You need that time to be able to, and like, like it's also sometimes it's, it's time
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just for nothing.
Yeah.
Like, you know, you've got, you might have your hobbies or your sport commitments or
whatever outside of work that you, you still do.
But to me, I don't, I don't count them as downtime a lot of the time.
Like it's like, if I was still hitting the gym regularly, like I wouldn't count that
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as downtime for myself because it's a commitment.
It's something that I've got to go and do.
It's like, you know, yeah, I, it's a hobby, but I still don't count that as downtime.
Like it's nice to just have that window of time where it's like, oh, I'm going to
do this, and then where it's like, I can do whatever the fuck I want to do.
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There's no one dictating.
You have to be here at this time.
This activity needs to be done.
This chore needs to be done.
So no, I need that bit of time where it's that's my time and I'm gonna do
whatever I want with it.
Yeah.
Yeah, absolutely.
It's important to have like that, that time, even if it's not, you know, every day, like
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weekend or something like that, you just, you need to reset yourself.
It can, doesn't even have to be long, like, you know, four hours, two hours.
Um, I think two hours is too short.
Me personally, I think I need a good four hour window, like a four hour, like minimum
cause that's, that's a good, good chunk of time, you know, to, to go and decide what
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it is you really want to spend that time doing, and then you've got enough time there
as well to go and do that something.
Uh, yeah, cause that's, that's the worst thing in the world.
Like, no, I've got, I've got an hour here.
No, you don't.
Like by the time you think about what it is that you want to go and do,
Tom, you get halfway through it.
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It's, you know, the time's over.
So you need, you need good, good four hours, I reckon.
Uh, well, that's, that's pretty much it.
You know, look to make some changes if you're working too much and you want to try and
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reduce that, or you want to need a change in some hours, you know, talk to work about it,
obviously, uh, they're all these things are just, but it's kind of something that it's,
it's known like people, we know, we know how to manage this.
I think we're just really, we get too caught up in how busy we are and how productive we
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want to be that we forget to sometimes just have a thing, have a thing, reprioritize,
think about what it is and then see if we can make some changes to make that work life
balance a little bit more healthy.
I think there's also like a pretty unhealthy like attitude towards working hours in Australia,
especially with guys, it's, it's kind of seen to be a bragging riot.
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It's like, oh, you only work 50 hours this week.
Like, I remember when I had my first job, I worked fucking 72 hours this week.
Yeah.
And it's like, yeah, cool.
Like, yeah, yeah.
And I've, I've known so many people that are like that.
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It's like, oh, I've got, I've got like months worth of annual leave and sick leave banked
up because I haven't taken any annual leave in the last year.
I haven't had any sick days since I started.
It was just like, cool.
Yeah.
Congratulations.
Yeah.
We're just on that too.
Like everyone's different.
So, you know, you may work 20 hours a week and to you, that feels like working a 38 hour
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week or a 40 hour or 50 hour week, whereas someone else might work a 40 hour week.
And you know, that, that's comfortable for them.
You might only work 20 hours and you might feel like that's, you know, that's your maximum.
So it's, it's finding that balance too, finding out how many hours a week work for you.
So, yeah.
Yeah.
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Exactly.
It's a balance thing and find what works and try to make it fit.
Yep.
Yep.
Balance those scales and yeah, that's things you can do.
I mean, I used to, I never stick to them.
That's why I never really do them anymore, but you know, calendars and, and things like that.
And, you know, sometimes visuals can help me.
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So I've always been a visual person so I can visualize what like a week looks like.
That sometimes helps, but I stick to it for like a week and then it goes out the door.
So, you know, lots of things like that you can do.
Planners and diaries.
Yeah.
Planners and diaries.
I don't like writing things down though.
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If I'm going to do it, I've tried diaries so many times.
I started off really good and then I just fucking stop.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's a good idea.
It's a nice thought.
Yeah.
What else was I going to say?
So we've pretty much talked about-
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Pretty simple topic.
The nice thing is it really is, yeah, understand your rights too, like your working rights.
Yeah, that's true.
If you're not sure about them, like look them up depending on where you are, what region,
what country, whatever it is.
Look at your cost.
Overtime isn't compulsory.
No, no, that's right.
Overtime isn't compulsory.
Well, not here anyway.
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I can't imagine it would be anywhere, but yeah.
So make sure you know your rights as a working citizen in your region, wherever you're from
and speak up about it too.
You know, you don't have to be doing everything that you're told, even if you think it's wrong.
(27:43):
So speak up.
Work smarter, not harder to.
Out of the people.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, all that stuff.
Take breaks.
I don't take breaks.
It's terrible.
Yeah.
I do now.
When I was doing coal deliveries, you had to fucking force me to take my breaks.
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I've started to.
I've started to take them more.
I didn't early because I was still learning the job.
I was still learning the job.
I was still learning the job, but I was slow.
Now I'm faster at the job.
It gets to a point where I'm like, I've got an hour before I have to do the next job.
I'm going to have a break.
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All right.
That's it.
That's it for our mental health chat this week.
Work-life balance.
Don't let it get unhealthy.
Keep a healthy one.
You're happier.
Your mental health will feel better about your mental health.
You won't be moody and you won't take it out on the people that you love and care about.
That's really important because then it just spirals.
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Yeah, it's not nice when you take your mood out on people, Caleb.
Exactly, Christian.
I've never done it to you.
You've done it to me, you little bitch.
I don't know.
I think there's been a time.
I'd have to think about it.
Anyway, we're going to have a quick word from our sponsors.
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Quick word from our Caleb.
See you later, guys.
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Back to the show.
Welcome back to this week's episode of the Pain in Our Head podcast.
Thanks for tuning in.
Thanks for listening.
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Thanks for watching.
We've been talking about work-life balance and mental health.
It's been right.
It's been short.
It's been short, quick and sweet.
It's like us.
Short.
Very fucking short.
Sweet.
We're going to talk about some music.
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Are we?
Yeah.
I do.
I do.
I'm going to appreciate it, too.
Oh, am I?
Yeah, because you're obsessed with it, too.
Oh, I'm interested now.
There we go.
So we were playing PUBG.
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I knew exactly.
I was waiting.
He's going to know.
All right. Yes, go on.
And Krug started doing a dance for us in game.
A dance.
And you can join in when you're in the same team.
So you can press the F button and your character joins in and the music plays.
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And I was just like, this song is kind of catchy.
By the time the lobby started, I was like, I need to know what this fucking song is because it was really catchy.
And so that song is Just a Feeling by Jane and the Boy.
So I did a quick Google search on the lyrics I picked up while I was listening to it and found the song and added it to my playlist.
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And have since smashed the ever loving shit out of that song.
And every time we play with Krug, we make Krug do the dance so that we can join in before the match starts.
And then we're all doing our little fucking.
Just fucking living, living the best life.
Love it.
It's good. It's catchy.
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It is. It's really, really catchy.
Just. And it's just a pop song.
Yeah, I know, right?
Us liking a pop song. How weird is that?
I almost feel dirty liking it.
I listen to everything, so I gave up on feeling dirty about music a long time ago.
I used to be a fucking elitist, so I used to be one of those guys like, I can't listen to.
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I can't listen to this. It's it's not metal.
Now it's just like.
It's a catchy fucking song.
I'm going to add that to my playlist.
And now whenever I open YouTube or iTunes, the algorithm has a fucking aneurysm trying to work out what song to suggest me.
It's like, well, does he want to hear metal or does he want to hear pop or is it country?
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Is it fucking electronic?
Is it some weird fucking foreign music?
So yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
It has a full mental breakdown for algorithm.
Yeah.
Yes, that's my song for the week.
It's catchy as shit.
And if you go and listen to it, you'll see exactly what I mean.
It's good. It's addictive.
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It is. I'll add it to the playlist.
I will. I've got to go back and add a fair few songs to the playlist.
I might make that my job tomorrow.
Yeah.
Other than that, I think I've just been listening to the same shit that I listened to.
It's like nothing super exciting has come out.
No, the YouTube you showed me just before.
It's pretty cool.
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Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah.
I don't remember old Matt's name, but it was just like a like a prayer sung in the style of ghost.
I think we've spoken about ghosts and I'm pretty sure we've spoken about like a prayer before as well, actually.
Yeah. By Madonna. Yeah. Yeah. I think we have.
Hmm.
Yeah. Fucking I love ghosts and I love that song as well.
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So listening to that song in the style of ghost fucking amazing.
Yeah. He did a really good job.
He really did. It's really interesting when people can actually do that.
It's like take an existing song and do it in the style of another artist because it's not just like, oh, let's make it make the vocal sound like the other person.
It's like, no, here's the whole fucking song changed to to sound like it.
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And that was from Steve Welsh. Yes. On YouTube.
Yeah. No, I thoroughly enjoyed that.
It was really good.
It really, really good.
And it got me clicked into another one.
He did Nirvana's Nevermind if it was done by 12 different bands.
Went through all the tracks and and yeah, imitated a different band for each of those tracks on that album.
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So that was really good.
Thoroughly enjoyed that.
Hmm. Have a look on that. Have a look at that on YouTube.
It's cool.
All right.
I know you're fucking frothing at the bit for this one.
I am. I am.
I'm dancing in my pants.
On Friday, last Friday, the 20th, see this new album, The Surface Seems So Far, finally came out.
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It's amazing.
It's everything I thought it would be and more.
Remember how like a little while ago when the singles were releasing this, this you did good.
Right. This weighed on me.
You were like, oh, what are the two singles are the only good songs?
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And when the album comes out, it's going to be shit.
That's been weighing on my brain since you said that.
And I have.
It's a legitimate fear.
And I have been fearing the fact that it was going to be really, really, really bad.
And thank goodness to my relief, it's not.
I enjoy every single track.
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I haven't listened to it.
Which is that's fair.
Common for me, though, is there's not be hard to find a track that I don't like theirs, to be honest.
Actually, I was talking to Taylor about this the other day.
The only tracks I know one of their tracks.
Yeah.
I only don't like their tracks if it's featuring someone else.
I like that.
I like the song as soon as it's got a feature, because usually they'll release the song of just them.
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And then they'll release another version with a feature.
I usually don't like the feature.
So I like that fucking offspring song with Ed Sheeran better than the original.
Oh, really?
Yep.
What's that?
Million miles away.
Oh, yep.
Yep.
I like the original, but that live version with Ed Sheeran on it, I fucking absolutely love the shit out of that.
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Yeah.
Anyway, tell us more.
Not the offspring.
Oh, no, it's pretty much it, really.
It's got 11 tracks.
My favorite.
If I have to pick one, one that I've probably been binging the most, is Paint the World.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Really cool track.
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Really, really cool.
A lot of these songs are heavier than I was expecting them to be.
So I was pretty happy with that.
There's a lot more metal undertones to a few of the songs than a lot of their past albums, rather than a lot more alternative.
This is quite very heavy rock and then with a splash of metal as well.
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So I really, really enjoyed the whole thing.
And I'm hoping that a deluxe album comes out because it's not very like see that to just do an 11 track album.
Usually there's more.
So patiently waiting.
But yeah, I'm going to rush up to the store tomorrow and go grab the CD because I always buy the CD.
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Good fans.
Yes, yes, I like to support.
Did you end up listening to those links that I sent you?
The Bandcamp link?
Bandcamp.
Oh, no, have you done your bass?
No, haven't yet.
But you've sent me one in the past.
You've definitely sent me one in the past.
Yeah, but I haven't listened to the recent ones that you've sent.
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Fuck, good songs on there.
I listened to the whole album.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Horrible songs.
Horrible fucking songs.
In terms of their meaning.
Yeah.
It's like Steel Cap Debortion Clinic.
Preemptive Rape Defense.
Oh, shit.
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I came up with the names.
Gumbi and Tomo.
I had nothing to do with it.
I didn't even come up with lyrics.
The only song I helped with lyrics was They Came From Shed 9.
Right, okay.
Didn't do shit.
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Why do I find that hard to believe?
I didn't.
Oh, really?
Okay.
Wow.
Nice.
You guys.
Sorry, you sent it to the bus.
I had nothing to do with it.
That's great.
But yeah, that's all I've been listening to nonstop, on repeat, since Friday.
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Yeah, no, it's been great.
So really, really good.
So yeah, surface seems so far.
Go give a listen and paint the world.
Yeah, well, don't.
You were like...
I was trying to think of one that you would like.
Beneath the Veil.
Try to heal, maybe.
I just don't know which ones you'll like, but there'll be one I reckon you'll enjoy.
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Anyway.
Anyway, I've got no idea what we're going to chat about next week.
Yeah, it's a surprise.
Yeah, it's going to be a surprise next week.
Yeah, we haven't done that for a while.
For us as well.
For us.
We'll figure it out next week.
We have like a big creative binge where it's like, all right, what about this and this and this and this and this?
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And it's like you write down like six topics and it's like, yeah, sick, we're set.
And then you get to the end of the six topics that you've written down and it's just like, shit, we're fucked.
Yeah.
I think there's still three that we've got written down, but I can't remember them for the life of me.
So yeah, anyway.
That sucks to suck.
You get that in the big jobs.
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Squat in there, man.
Oh, thanks for listening.
It's been a really short episode this week.
We'll be back next week with a something different to talk about.
Otherwise, have a really good week.
We'll see you again next week.
It's OK to not be OK.
It's no way to speak.
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