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April 30, 2025 61 mins

Today on the podcast I’m welcoming back New York Times Bestselling Author Elise Loehnen. If you haven’t listened to the first episode where Elise was on The Parenting Reframe Podcast, it gives a great overview and conversation about her first book, On Our Best Behavior. You can listen to it here: https://theparentingreframe.simplecast.com/episodes/on-our-best-behavior-with-elise-loehnen

Elise is the author of On Our Best Behavior: The Seven Deadly Sins and The Price Women Pay to Be Good, True and False Magic, a collaboration with Phil Stutz, and her workbook coming out soon, Choosing Wholeness Over Goodness. There are so many things we talk about in this episode from the creative process to parenting, the social context of her books to the ways women feel in their own bodies, and so much more. It’s always a pleasure to talk with Elise and get her perspective on so many different topics.

Here’s what we talk about with Elise: 

  • Elise’s writing processes and how she uncovers societal norms and expectations through her work.
  • An overview of her book On Our Best Behavior and how society forces women to be inherently good through the lens of the seven deadly sins. 
  • Her companion workbook Choosing Wholeness Over Goodness and how it helps individuals work through their own beliefs and change the negative narratives. 
  • How the stories you tell about yourself are almost always rooted in lack. 
  • What we can learn about compassion and patience from neurodivergent children.
  • Recognizing as parents we need to relinquish control over our children and be a safe place for them to land. 
  • Letting go of micromanaging our kids to allow them to develop their own roadmap to reach their goals.
  • The amount of energy and self monitoring it takes to stay a certain size or weight as a woman and the mental toll it takes over time. 
  • An overview of True and False Magic and how life is an ongoing evolution of feelings and emotions to work through.

Resources: 

Elise’s first Parenting Reframe podcast episode: https://theparentingreframe.simplecast.com/episodes/on-our-best-behavior-with-elise-loehnen

Elise’s podcast, “Pulling the Thread”: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/pulling-the-thread-with-elise-loehnen/id1585015034

On Our Best Behavior: The Seven Deadly Sins and The Price Women Pay to Be Good: https://www.eliseloehnen.com/onourbestbehavior

True and False Magic: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/778182/true-and-false-magic-by-phil-stutz-with-elise-loehnen/

Choosing Wholeness Over Goodness: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/771811/choosing-wholeness-over-goodness-by-elise-loehnen-and-courtney-smith/

 

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