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December 5, 2024 51 mins

This was a fun episode. A friend, Matt Yao, reached out to see if he could interview me about my recent book, Good Work.

We first connected when he called me in the summer of 2022. He was in the middle of my book and knew he needed to quit his job.

Over the last few years, he's been on a transformational journey, experimenting with writing, coaching, and several other side quests.

Hope you enjoy this conversation.

You can learn more about Matt here: Matt Yao


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