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June 24, 2025 70 mins

In episode 41, Mel & Al sit down with Jenna Mok to discuss the transformative power of Pilates in managing back pain and how she avoided spine surgery in her 20s. Jenna shares her personal journey from a corporate career to becoming a certified Pilates instructor after getting diagnoses with spondylolisthesis, stenosis, and degenerative disc disease. They get real about the misconceptions surrounding back surgery, back pain,  the healing process of the body, and the impact of imaging on peoples perception. They even discuss Luigi Mangione and how he went through the same injury Jenna had, but he went through with spine surgery that failed. Prepare to be shocked during this episode as they debunk back pain myths, tell you the true origin of pilates, and get real about spine surgery. Enjoy!


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