March 11, 2025 • 51 mins
When Carol Kabaale moved from Cuba to South Africa as a child, she didn’t speak the language. But, she quickly became her family’s translator, learning how to navigate new spaces with confidence. That same resilience now fuels her work as a marketing strategist and Meta ads expert, helping women entrepreneurs simplify their marketing, build authentic connections, and grow their businesses with value-driven campaigns. In this episode, Carol shares her powerful journey of reinvention, the mindset shifts that helped her rebuild from a business setback, and why consistency is the secret to long-term success.
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Alethea Felton (00:07):
Have you ever faced a moment in life where
everything around you feltunfamiliar, where you had to
start over, find your voice andbuild something new from the
ground up?
Well, my guest today knows thatall too well and I'd like to
welcome you back to the PowerTransformation Podcast.
I am your host, Alethea Felton,and today I am joined by Carol
(00:32):
Kabale, a marketing strategistand meta ads expert based in
South Africa.
But beyond Carol's expertise inhelping entrepreneurs grow
their businesses, Carol has anincredible personal story about
transformation that shaped herresilience, adaptability and her
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untimely passion for empoweringothers, especially women
entrepreneurs, and we're goingto get ready for an inspiring
conversation and we want to diveright into this.
But again, if you have not doneso already, follow the Power
Transformation podcast and Ithank you for your continued
(01:16):
support.
We always begin this podcastwith a positive affirmation,
speaking those things as if theyare so.
I will say the affirmation onceand you repeat it I embrace
change and have the courage tocreate a life of influence and
purpose.
(01:36):
Carol Kabale, I am so glad tohave her on my show today.
She is a powerhouse in her ownright and welcome to the Power
Transformation Podcast.
I'm so happy to have you, Yay.
Carol Kabaale (01:56):
I'm so excited to be here.
Honestly, it's going to be agood show.
Alethea Felton (01:59):
Yes, it will be, and I'm just excited too about
just who you are, what you do,and the audience will also learn
more about you.
But before we start, carol,let's just go ahead and jump
right into a fun, icebreaker,lighthearted question.
That is something that we canjust get to know you and find
(02:21):
out a bit more about you.
Okay, carol?
Yes, in terms of your favoriteice cream flavor.
What's your ice cream flavorfavorite and why?
Carol Kabaale (02:38):
I love salted caramel, I'm not gonna lie.
Yeah, it's a little bit like me.
It's like really pretty, it'ssmooth, but it's salty.
It's got a little bit ofsomething you weren't expecting,
you know.
So I like a salted caramel, Ilike that little bit of in it,
(02:58):
yeah.
So salted caramel, hit me up.
What?
Alethea Felton (03:02):
a clever answer and I love that and you
definitely have that it factor.
You have so much more that youoffer.
So if someone were to say whois Carol Kabale, what would you
say?
Carol Kabaale (03:16):
I would say she is a fun individual.
She is hardworking, she's awife.
She's a dog mom to my littleBoston Terrier, charlie.
She's a dog mom to my littleBoston Terrier Charlie.
She's a good daughter.
I wouldn't say great, but I'mgood, I try.
She's a great friend, I havebeen told, and overall I'm a
person who likes to be ofservice.
(03:37):
I like to help people and Ijust like to enjoy life and use
the time that I'm given in thislocation to serve and be of
service.
Alethea Felton (03:49):
And with that being said, carol, in terms of
you being of service and whatyou do, share with us a bit
about what you do Now we'll getmore into who you are.
You do Now we'll get more intowho you are.
But if you were to say your jobtitle or what you do, explain
that to us.
Carol Kabaale (04:11):
So I have a marketing agency that I founded
about like nine years ago.
In this agency, I helpparticularly female coaches who
want to amplify their gifts andwant to show up and be of
service.
So I help them do that throughmeta ads, which is Facebook and
Instagram, and I help them tocreate ecosystems outside of
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socials.
So I want you to like find yourtribe on socials, because
that's where everybody is, andthen I want you to take them to
the second location and continuethat conversation where you own
that sandbox.
Alethea Felton (04:44):
So that's what I do Interesting.
Interesting because, yes,everything nowadays in 2025,
globally, is all about socials,but I do think it's important to
have your own place, your ownplatform as well, and to create
your own stages, create your ownbrand, so so as to speak
(05:06):
outside of that, and I thinkthat's really important for us,
as entrepreneurs and people inleadership roles, to actually do
that.
And your journey inentrepreneurship and just your
entire story of transformationis nothing short of amazing.
And so that leads me to thisquestion.
(05:28):
Carol, you actually shared withme that you're originally from
Cuba, cuba, cuba.
I speak Spanish, just like you.
You're originally from Cuba andyou moved to South Africa as a
child.
Moved to South Africa as achild, only speaking Spanish,
(05:49):
and having to navigate that at areally young age.
So how did that journey fromgoing from Cuba to South Africa,
how did that experience as awhole shape your resilience,
your adaptability and yourentrepreneurial mindset later in
life?
Carol Kabaale (06:07):
Wow, that's a good one.
Alethea Felton (06:08):
I think, it was.
Carol Kabaale (06:11):
I think I needed that to become the Carol that I
am now Starting.
Like you said, right in thebeginning I didn't know English.
So I remember we landed on aWednesday and I think on the
Friday my parents put me in likeplay school and I was just
there and they gave me thispiece of paper and they were
(06:32):
like, if you struggle, you go upto an adult and you tell, show
them this number.
This was back when we had, likeyou know, little tiny cell
phones and they would phone myparents Like that was the plan.
These guys did not have a planbeyond that.
My parents, like that was theplan, these guys did not have a
plan beyond that.
And in that I think it reallytaught me that I needed to find
my own voice.
No one was going to speak forme, no one was going to help me.
(06:53):
I have to help myself.
So you know, fast forward alittle bit.
Obviously I learned English andthen I learned it a lot quicker
than my parents and I was justlike a little bit more fluent.
So I became the familytranslator and that in itself
allowed me to be inconversations that maybe
children were not meant to be in.
In South Africa there's a lot of.
There's a big culture in.
Children are seen but not heard, whereas if you come from a
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Hispanic or Latin Americancountry, kids are just part of
the equation.
I don't care what you're doing.
Like you're having a party,kids are there.
You're having a wedding?
Kids are there.
There's no kids thing.
It doesn't work in our culture.
Kids are coming.
So it was really weird when I'mnow the representative for my
family and I'm like, oh, theysaid this, oh, she's asking that
, and you know, I think thatdynamic gave me a lot of
(07:38):
confidence.
It gave me a lot ofunderstanding to listen so that
I can interpret well, and itjust gave me amazing people
skills.
I mean, I love being aroundpeople.
I've always been like someonewho enjoys that community feel.
So it was.
Those are the skills I wouldsay that have I still use today
(07:59):
and, looking back on it, that'sprobably where I learned them,
right in the beginning.
Alethea Felton (08:04):
And I will agree with you about people skills
and I'm glad that you brought itup because audience.
The way Carol contacted me isthrough a website that's called
Pot Match.
However, one of the beautiesabout Carol was I get a lot of
people that want to be on thisshow literally hundreds just not
(08:24):
from Podmatch, but from otherplaces.
I have a wait list and I do tryto sift through as many
requests as I can, but as apodcaster and as a person in
general, I can tell who'sgenuine versus just trying to
get themselves out there.
(08:45):
And so what really stood out tome about you, carol, was your
sincerity.
It was as if you know hey, thisis who I am, I'm really
interested and I pay attentionto people that really seek to
learn a little bit about my show.
And so that's what reallysparked me, and I told Carol up
(09:06):
front.
I said give me a little time,but we'll connect and you'll be
on the show.
And sure enough, it's happened.
So I share that, carol, to saythat when was that day?
Or what sparked in you to say Iwant to really take these
people skills to the next leveland be of service to others?
(09:29):
What gave you thatentrepreneurial spark,
especially knowing that you'rethe first entrepreneur and the
only one in your family.
Carol Kabaale (09:38):
I would say, first of all, like I don't know.
If it was like the peopleskills, I would say it was more
for me, like I wanted choice.
Right, I wanted to have choicein my life and I think that
comes to you.
I mean we could dig deep onthis, but I think if we really
dig deep, it starts with, likeyou know, having briefly grown
(10:00):
up in communism and gone backand forth there and seeing that
kind of thing fast forwarding toseeing how, like my parents
were immigrants and they had towork hard and like things were
difficult, fast forward again tolike being at school and being
the only one so I always waslacking of choice.
Choices were made for me.
Alethea Felton (10:18):
I didn't have choice.
Carol Kabaale (10:20):
So when I got finally into my first corporate
job, I I think I told you thisstory Like I loved the people.
The people are great, don't getme wrong.
So they're the people skills.
The people were great.
I make community wherever I canand I think it's important to
have community, but I justdidn't like my job.
I didn't like where I was.
(10:42):
I saw the people who wereliving the life that I wanted to
live and they were way olderthan me.
These people were in their 40sand their 50s and their 60s and
I was like in my 20s and I waslike am I really going to have
to wait 40 years to gain accessto that?
And a part of me was like no,not today.
No, no, no, no, no.
So I set off on a quest, if youwill, to find something bigger,
(11:10):
and it came into alignment intomy life when my husband
proposed to me um, I think Itold you this joke I love saying
that we waited nine years.
He waited nine years, um, andthen he proposed the man wanted
my blood type.
So anybody listen, if he hasn'tasked you yet, maybe it it's
your blood type, I don't know,but for me it could work for you
.
So just saying, putting it outthere, and with that I just
(11:34):
realized that I couldn'tcontinue in my corporate job.
In my corporate job I worked inhospitality and I kept living
past my family, my friends andthe things that I valued the
most.
So it was important for me tocreate choice and create an
environment where I could decidewhat I wanted to do next, and
one of the biggest things Iwanted to do was be of service.
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I wanted to help people.
I wanted to be helpful to havevalue and I also wanted to have
fun and be creative.
Helpful to have value and Ialso wanted to have fun and be
creative.
And I think the naturally beingwith people and connecting that
just was the cherry on top,because I like people,
Especially good people.
I like them.
Why not?
Alethea Felton (12:15):
Exactly, and that internal shift of making
you step into entrepreneurshipdespite the unknowns actually
fuel your journey.
And I want to transition hereis because sometimes people will
see a person and think, okay,they have this thriving business
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and they have things in place,but anybody will tell you and
you already know,entrepreneurship is hard, it's
hard, it's tough.
I'm in my forties.
You're, of course, younger, buteven with your age, you still
had your ups and downs on thisjourney.
So take us through that, carol.
(12:59):
If a person were to say, well,you're living large and it's
always been easy for you.
Carol, what are some of thebiggest lessons that you learned
from some challengingexperiences in entrepreneurship
and how did they prepare you totransform into having the
success that you have today?
(13:20):
Take us on that journey.
Carol Kabaale (13:22):
I would first like to say it was not easy.
No one gave me anything, um.
So to anybody thinking that no,no, this was earned, not given,
I want to make that very clear.
Just let's start there.
So when I first decided to goon this entrepreneurial
entrepreneurial journey, like Isaid, like I didn't have a
reference point.
(13:43):
I, no one in my family, is anentrepreneur.
People in my family areprofessionals, so they're like
doctors or engineers.
It's the kind of career where,like, you're in a career and you
stay in that career and youdon't really deviate.
So that was the expectation forme and when I decided, I told
you this, I didn't tell anybody,I just kept quiet, and that was
to my benefit and it was alsoto my disservice, because I
(14:05):
didn't tell anyone.
It meant when I started mybusiness I didn't even tell my
fiance.
I just want to make that clearlike it was me and God we were
the only ones that knew that wewere doing this and when I
started I got a whole bunch ofdebt really quickly because I
was funding everything.
I burned through my savingsvery quickly.
I didn't realize what I didn'tknow and what I needed and I
(14:28):
also had this big gap.
Every time I learned something,I needed to learn the next
steps.
I had to buy the next course.
I had to join the nextmastermind.
I had to buy software.
I needed to like hire people.
So very quickly like the creditcard debt was credit card debt,
it was just like it's not great.
Alethea Felton (14:45):
That happens to a lot of us.
Yeah, Happens to it.
I do not know one successfulentrepreneur I am so serious and
I'm talking about ones who areseven, eight, nine plus figure
earners.
Now they all have a story ofgetting into, especially early
(15:06):
on, getting into a lot of debtor losing it all, having to
build it back.
So your story is not uncommon.
Continue.
I love that.
Carol Kabaale (15:16):
so I got into all this debt, but I knew in my
heart I was in the rightdirection, if that makes any
sense.
It was like I didn't see it asdebt in the time.
I saw it as an investment inmyself.
So everything that I spent onwas like that.
I also because I didn't anyone.
I didn't have that mentorshipwithin my family unit.
(15:37):
So, as a person who's grown upreally around family and always
takes advice, it was weirdkeeping this huge secret and not
being supported.
So I learned to build communityoutside of it.
I learned to find people inFacebook groups and in
masterminds in LinkedIn.
I learned to like learn frompeople who were strangers, who
(15:57):
couldn't necessarily judge mebecause they didn't know.
They only knew what they knewdoes that make sense.
Yes, so it was helpful becausewhen they gave advice, they gave
advice on what they know.
They didn't give advice onCarol, because they didn't know
much about Carol.
They were like, oh you, youwant to build a website?
Well, don't do that first,rather do this.
And I was like okay, let's godo that.
Oh, you want to do this, um,maybe do that first.
(16:19):
So that's how I built communityand in the first years it was
really hard because I would saythe first three years I was
basically a solopreneur.
I was doing everything.
I was doing everything like Iwas the person creating the copy
.
I was the person doing the ads.
I was the person creating thecopy.
I was the person doing the ads.
I was the person facilitatingeverything.
It was Carol Inc here.
Alethea Felton (16:41):
That's how it starts, yeah.
Carol Kabaale (16:44):
It's weird because when you come from
corporate you're so used youdon't realize it, but you really
do have a lot of support.
Like you only do your littlebit and then you pass it along
to somebody else, but nowthere's no one to pass along to.
Everything is you from start toend.
So that was something I alsohad to learn and I also had to
figure out the next three yearsof my business.
(17:05):
I would say I had it inpartnership and that also had
its challenges In terms ofhaving a business partner with
you.
Alethea Felton (17:14):
Correct, okay.
Carol Kabaale (17:16):
So the next three years I went into partnership
with this other lady and in thebeginning it was great.
Our goals were very much inalignment.
She had her own agency, I hadmy own agency and we kind of
merged them together to supporteach other.
But during that period, funnyenough, something happened where
I dimmed my light so she couldshine and she became more of the
(17:38):
face and I started doingoperational things.
Now I'm a big fan of everybodystepping into where they're most
needed.
So for me at the time that feltlike the logical step.
But looking back on it now, ittook a lot for me because I am
naturally a people person.
I'm naturally always talking topeople, being upfront.
So it was hard but it wasdoable, right, moving a little
(18:03):
bit forward.
We parted ways.
That's another lesson I learned.
Everything has to be writtendown.
Guys, you don't want to be likeand I mean I should have known
better my parents got divorced.
You don't want to be goingthrough the divorce and then
figuring out who gets what.
The same thing in business.
you want to have like things allfigured out in the beginning,
(18:24):
um so much so that I just saidto her you know what it's fine
you can have everything, andthat in itself also gave me so
much grace, because I was likeit's okay.
Alethea Felton (18:33):
I can so.
So really quickly, just forclarity.
So you started business on yourown, correct?
Then you merged and had apartnership.
You broke from that partnershipbut you said she could keep
everything.
So did that mean you werestarting over?
That is correct.
Carol Kabaale (18:53):
Yeah, oh wow, okay, the reason I said she
could have everything is youknow, don't think like oh Carol,
we're starting over.
That is correct.
Yeah, oh, wow, okay.
The reason I said she couldhave everything is, you know,
don't think like, oh Carol, youwere so naive.
Maybe you should have foughtfor things.
I didn't need it.
To be quite honest with you,the way the partnership was
ending, I didn't want it to endin a negative way and it would
(19:17):
have taken more energy from meto fight for something, for a
sinking ship.
I was like you want the ship,take the ship.
I can go buy another ship, wecan create another ship.
Like I don't need the ship, wow, wow.
And for me?
Alethea Felton (19:28):
yes, did.
Did you come to thatrealization instantly, or did it
take time before you said letme just give it over to her and
start over?
oh no, I, I was mad, I was sad,I went through like a whole
stage of grief with it okay soso tell us that, because that's
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important, not not in terms ofdetails of what happened, but
grief.
I'm glad you brought that upbecause instantly people think
of grief as a person dying.
But I know grief to be.
You grieve anything that youlose and that's a real process,
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and sometimes people try tobrush over things, but grief is
real.
And sometimes people try tobrush over things, but grief is
real.
Whether it's a breakup from apartner, whether it's losing a
job, whether it's any loss,whether you've lost your home
through a fire or tragedy, griefis real.
Take us through that process ofthe grief that you experienced
(20:34):
with it and how you came to thispowerful decision and you
bounced back and bounced aheadto say let me give it to her,
and to rebuild.
Carol Kabaale (20:43):
Yeah.
So the grief really camebecause my whole identity had
become Carol, this businessowner.
That's who I was.
I didn't know anybody else butthat, because before that I was
Carol the corporate person,before that I was someone's
daughter.
So I was never just Carol, Iwas always Carol, attached to
(21:04):
something and I had workedreally hard to build this
something.
It was my entire personality,my entire world, what I was
doing, I was doing so when I sawthat everything I fought so
hard to get to, I think alsowhat's important to understand
is, by the time that I was inthis partnership, we were
hitting like six figures, sevenfigures, consistently.
(21:25):
This was like, if you will, areal business.
We had systems.
We were like invoicing bignumbers, like this was it, this
is what we all had worked for.
I was there and now it was goneand that felt like utter poop
(21:45):
emoji.
It just felt terrible because Iwas like, oh my gosh, what have
I been doing for the past sixyears?
What were all the late nightsfor?
What were all the sacrifices?
What was all the doing for thepast six years?
What were all the late nightsfor?
What were all the sacrifices?
What was all the debt for, ifnot for this.
And I grieved it a lot in thesense that I was sad, I was
disappointed.
(22:05):
I was like how could I allowthis to happen?
Why didn't I see the red flags?
Why didn't I step into my powerand say, no, maybe I can fix it
?
So it was like this back andforth of emotions, like you know
, like going through anger, andgoing through like shock and
denial, and going through likebargaining with myself, like
maybe we can do this, maybe wecan do so.
It was really was grieving thisthing that was now gone and
(22:30):
eventually I landed on I don'tneed this.
I landed on I don't need this.
And I think I landed on thatbecause I was just like it's
going to take so much of me tokeep this going and so much
negativity has already happenedthat it won't ever be the same,
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even if I get to keep it or evenif I fight for parts of it,
like it's just always going to.
Alethea Felton (22:55):
There's a part energetically that's always
going to be tied to thatsituation and I just didn't want
that yeah that is such a muchso I I'm just going to put it
out there.
That's a mature mindset to have, especially based on an
audience.
I don't say this in adisparaging or negative way.
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Carol is a young woman.
I won't say her age, but whatI'm going to say is this when I
met Carol and I found out herage is something about younger
people that I love, because Iwas in leadership roles at a
young age, a really young age,and I experienced the not all,
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but I experienced somenegativity about oh, you haven't
experienced this or that andthis.
And I always reference the lateReverend Dr Martin Luther King
Jr, and I say Dr King was 26when he started the Montgomery
bus boycott.
So you don't have to be quoteunquote older or old to really
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make a change.
And I bring this up becausethat was such a mature frame of
mind to have at the age you were, because I know that a lot of
people, even being older, intheir 40s and 50s and up, could
have walked away being reallybitter, disgruntled, fighting it
(24:29):
.
But you to have had that senseshows me the foundation you had,
even as a young girl, of havingto go through transitions and
changes in your life really ledto such empowerment, more
empowerment.
So you didn't just quit, youdidn't go back and say I'm going
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to do corporate for the rest ofmy life, but instead, carol,
you decided to thrive.
So take us to that journeywhere you came to that point to
say this chapter may be dead inmy life, but something can be
reborn.
(25:10):
God can make all things new.
Take us there.
Carol Kabaale (25:14):
God can make all things new, take us there.
So, honestly, the first thing Idid is I, after I sat there, I
sat for a little bit, like yousaid, and I just thought about
everything and I was like, howdo I rebuild, how do I start
again?
And I actually did go totherapy for a little bit in that
period and one of the thingsthat my therapist said is like
(25:35):
you need to do something withyour hands.
Now, for those of you listeningthat maybe cannot see me, I am
not the type of girl who isdoing things with her hands Okay
.
I am the type of girl who getssomebody else to do things with
their hands for them.
Okay, I am.
You know, not that I'm notcapable, I'm just, you know
(25:56):
these nails were not built forthat.
Okay, this carol is not builtfor that.
That being said, I was likeokay, okay.
So one of the things that I didwas, funny enough, the office
that we're sitting in.
I painted the whole room.
It used to be a spare bedroom.
I decided, no, it's going to bemy office, it's going to be my
space, I'm going to reclaim this.
I moved the bed out of it and Ipainted the room.
(26:18):
I didn't know how to paint, butI learned.
I didn't know how to use, likethe little scapula.
Alethea Felton (26:23):
Oh yeah.
Carol Kabaale (26:25):
I was doing that, I was sanding things, I was
painting, I was putting stuffdown.
So I painted the whole room, Ichanged the whole room, I
changed the light fixtures, Ichose all the furniture and all
of that.
Once I finished, right, what Irealized she was having me do
was showing me that I canrebuild at any time, at any
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moment, and with that kind ofproof of concept in mind, I was
like, okay, let's do it again,and I chose to build this agency
that I've had now for threeyears, if you will, this
iteration of it, with the bestof everything I've learned.
I have hired the mosthardworking people, people who I
(27:06):
also had in my previous agencythat I just loved and I was like
I will always love working withthem.
They are excellent humans andindividuals.
So some of them you know theysaw they went there, but the
grass is greener where you waterit and let's say, I've got
sprinklers.
Alethea Felton (27:21):
That's all.
Oh, I so love you, Carol.
Oh, I love that.
I love that quote.
Carol Kabaale (27:26):
I'm just saying so people came and we were
flourishing and I also made surethat the clients we had.
I wanted to work with peoplewho were going to do something
bigger than profit.
The reason I tend to work withcoaches per se is because I feel
like they're here to be ofservice, but it doesn't have to
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be a coach.
It can be like someone who'shere to be of service If you
have a product that you can'treally put into a box, but you
are here to serve and helppeople with it.
That's what I want to work with.
I want to talk to you becauseyou're here for a bigger mission
than money and once you servepeople, the ripples, the wave,
the impact that's what I want itto be about.
(28:08):
I want it to amplify thosepeople.
So that's how we started and Iwas like okay, we're not going
to say yes to everyone.
People came and they're like ohCarol, you're back.
I was like nope, not the rightclient and that was hard to say,
especially in the beginning,because I needed the money, but
I stayed true.
I was like no, no we're going tostay on course, and we did, and
(28:30):
it's been so great because nowI feel like I've found my people
, I have the best team, likethey're all women, different
kind of women, like you know, inages and races and
personalities and circumstancesand I just love that.
I love that I get to be a partof it and in terms of the work
we do, like I said, we justamplify your greatness.
(28:52):
So if you have something greatto say, let me tell people about
it for you.
Alethea Felton (28:55):
Exactly, and you know, even for you, a lot of
people, whether they're inentrepreneurship or not, can
take away some valuable nuggetsfrom you.
To say, like every person isn'tyour client, and so sometimes
there are people who just wantanybody.
(29:16):
But it's quality over quantity,and I even had to learn this
when it came to people onlinethat have a certain number of
social media followers.
Just because you might have alot of followers doesn't mean
that you're really giving thequality offline, and I've
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experienced that myself inworking with different people
not all, but different people isthat don't be fooled by how
many people a person has.
It's really sifting through tosee, okay, who's really for me
and not and I always give ashout out to my former business
(29:58):
coach, who did just that for me,where he was wonderful for me
for many years, but he said tome look, you're trying to go to
this place.
I've taken you as far as I cantake you.
You need somebody that can takeyou to that next level, and so
I appreciate even how you, Carol, when it comes to being very
(30:18):
strategic about who you want towork for, that turns out in your
favor, and so my question toyou now is what?
What was the biggest mindsetshift or strategy that really
helped you move from strugglingto sustaining and scaling a
(30:46):
thriving business?
Carol Kabaale (30:50):
Be consistent, be consistent.
Alethea Felton (30:53):
And that's why I can say it again be consistent.
Elaborate on that.
Carol Kabaale (30:58):
Yeah.
So being consistent for me justmeant like, you know, sometimes
you can compare yourself toother people and like, oh, they
have more followers than I do.
Oh, they're better at speakingthan I am.
Oh, they send out bigger, youknow, retainers or invoices or
whatever.
We love to compare.
I don't know where it comesfrom in our DNA as humans, but
we love to compare what.
(31:19):
I will say is you can compare asa benchmark, but don't let it
be.
The difference between them andyou is that they show up every
single day.
They show up when they're tired, they show up when they don't
want to.
They show up when they havethings.
And how they show up?
Maybe some people are smartabout it and they batch, so they
create content in one big onone day and they do everything.
(31:41):
And you're like how does thisperson do it?
Well, they have systems, theyhave batching, they have things
that they use to help them,right.
But it could also just be likeyou don't need to outwork them.
You could be up to likemidnight and that person has a
great, a better strategy.
And just because they'reconsistent with their strategy
not when they feel like itthey're going to get ahead.
(32:03):
Here's the secret, I think tolike selling or just being
successful or anything,especially if you're selling
something People buy when theyare ready to buy not when you're
ready to sell, girl, you'reready to buy.
Alethea Felton (32:16):
You're right, yeah, right, yeah.
And I'm experiencing that evennow with the membership
community I just launched.
I have some founding members,which is great, but there have
been people I've talked to thathave said they know that they
need to be a part of it.
They know it, everythingresonates, but it's still
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themselves keeping them backbecause I can't force them.
I can use all of my salestactics and strategies which
work, but at the end of the day,girl, that's powerful.
You're so right.
Carol Kabaale (32:53):
And because of that you need to be consistent.
You need to be the number onechoice for when they are ready
to buy.
That being said, if you onlyshow up on the days you feel
like it, and that's foreverything in life, in your
marriage, in your family, inyour work, if you only show up
when you feel like it, well,those are the results you're
(33:15):
going to yield.
You need to be consistent.
Every day, move the needleforward 1% and watch what
happens, what you create.
Alethea Felton (33:24):
And it can and usually does take time, of
course.
Carol Kabaale (33:28):
Yeah, yeah.
I would say like, look, I lovetelling people I've been at this
for nine years because thisdidn't happen yesterday.
No, this didn't happen twoyears ago.
I did not just, you know,create one thing and became a
millionaire or whatever.
It is that these people areselling smokes and mirrors.
It's not me.
It was on the days I didn'twant to, I showed up.
Alethea Felton (33:52):
You better say so yes, right.
Carol Kabaale (33:57):
And I was like you.
You guys just need to bet onyourself and keep your head down
, like like this.
You need to be like this,because distractions are gonna
come.
People are gonna tempt you withlike quick fixes, quick ways
around, and they work.
It may give you a little boost,but just like if you have an
energy drink, you're gonna goand you're gonna crash out, but
but if you can stay consistent,that's really.
That's the game.
(34:17):
That's what changed everythingin my business.
I used to treat my business Ieven think in the beginning as a
hobby, in the sense that I usedto work really long hours for
periods in my business.
So like this week, oh my gosh,I'm so productive, I'm like not
sleeping, I'm not.
I'm like doing, doing, doing.
(34:40):
And then next week I'm so tired, I'm so exhausted, I'm
emotionally drained, I can'teven show up how I want to.
That's inconsistent.
So I know you're tired of mesaying this word, but be
consistent.
Alethea Felton (34:50):
Girl, I'm not.
Oh God, god, carol, I just loveyou from the second I met you.
I'm just, you are the truth,this is in in your voice.
That it will talk, of course,more offline, but your message
and your voice, you, you, youought to be globally known and I
(35:11):
know that you're well known.
But in terms of global,everything you're saying is so
true and again, even for thepeople, because my audience not
everybody is in business andthis podcast just doesn't.
More recently now, I dointerview mainly entrepreneurs,
but anybody can come on my show.
(35:33):
But what you're saying can beapplied to just life in general,
and this part right here that Iwant to get to because we have
a few minutes left, is foranybody.
This is universal.
Carol, when I first met you, Inever forget, you said to me and
(35:56):
I said, oh, this is major withme.
I think I know in the states,okay, with me being in the
states, I can say and then lordknows, I'm not gonna talk
politics, but what I can say isright now, the climate in this
country is it's really a goodtime to kind of make money on
(36:19):
your own and to be creative inthings, because the economy
right now is kind of uncertain,with a lot of people, especially
in government, losing jobs etc.
And so with entrepreneurship andI'm just kind of lining up this
question and entrepreneurshiptypically people come across
(36:41):
people who are all about makingmoney, making money, you got to
make money, you got to makemoney.
That's well and good ones, andeven with the kind of mindset I
have is that money is a toolthat will open up the
opportunity for more time inyour life.
And, carol, you said that, yes,money and the building wealth
(37:07):
is important, but you said timeis freedom, and with that
philosophy you've built abusiness that allows you to
create more space for what trulymatters.
So what practical steps can notonly entrepreneurs take, but
also people in general anybodylistening or watching this can
(37:29):
take to start reclaiming theirtime without sacrificing growth?
Carol Kabaale (37:37):
so I'm gonna tell you my one of my lovely life
quotes and I shared it with youlast time and this is going to
apply perfectly to reclaimingyour time, and that is what you
don't change, you choose, right,what you don't change, you
choose.
So I'm gonna need you to thinkabout this for a little bit.
(37:58):
Like we don't know how manydays or time we get on this
planet, I hope we get a lot.
Apparently, we're going to liveto 100.
That would be great.
That means I still got somemore time, but each day is not
promised, so you kind of have toput yourself in that place and
be like what am I choosing today?
Is it in my life like am Ieating unhealthy?
(38:19):
Can I fix that?
Is it?
Am I showing up as a bad friend, a bad daughter, a bad wife, a
bad spouse, a bad sister?
Can I change that?
Or am I choosing theserelationships to be negative,
these relationships to not yieldanything positive, these
relationships to just be?
Yeah, you know, I think it's soimportant to have that time.
(38:42):
That's something I want, as youmentioned.
For me, I've never really builtmy business around having like
money is nice, it is nice, but Iwant time, I want to show up.
I want to be that mom whobrings orange slices to my kids
game.
I want to be a wife who's hereand is present.
I want to be a great daughter.
I want to be like a greatfriend and just like pick up the
(39:04):
phone and call my friends.
That happens when you're veryintentional with your time, when
you treat your time as equallyas you would treat your money.
Now a lot of us are just like oh, I have time, do you?
Do you have time?
We all have the same 24 hoursin a day and some of us are
being like overachievers withthem.
(39:24):
Some of us are becomingmillionaires.
Some of us are like going,they're moving across the world
and like living off like thismuch money, but they're on a
beach.
And the rest of us are like howdid they do it?
Well, they did it.
They figured out that theyneeded more time to be happy.
Yes, and I think a lot of otherthings, other factors, like we
(39:45):
get put into this thing, like wehave to compare ourselves.
We have to buy a new house, wehave to do this.
We're constantly consuming allthese materialistic things.
At the end of the day, you know, as my husband says at the end
of the day, the day will end,but also, but also, it's just
like when you have a weddingright.
I spent the most money on thevideos.
(40:05):
True story I spent the most onthe video, the pictures and the
dress, also hair makeup.
Alethea Felton (40:11):
but that's my story.
Carol Kabaale (40:12):
I'll tell my husband that the reason I so
strategically picked those itemsto spend the most of our budget
on is because that's what Ihave left.
Those are the things that I canstill cling on to.
Those are the memories that Ican still have.
I can still see the dress, Ican still see the pictures, I
can still see, you know, themovies and whatever it is of the
wedding.
(40:32):
The same thing thing with yourlife.
What parts of it are you goingto be able to keep?
What memories are you going tobe like wow, that was amazing.
We went, and we went scubadiving, or we went on safari, or
I helped this organization, Iwas of service.
What can you say you can putinto your memory bank that you
(40:53):
really can't take with you tothe next location?
Alethea Felton (40:57):
that is beautifully stated and it's
interesting.
You would bring up your weddingbecause with my parents they've
been married 47 years now andmy mom said the only thing she
would change, although they havea wedding album, she didn't get
professional photographs done.
It was just someone takingpictures and that's the only
(41:21):
thing she would have changed isshe says she tells any bride
invest in a good videographerand photographer.
She still has her dress.
My grandma made her dress, butin terms of that, because she
says those are memories that youcan't get back and she wishes
(41:46):
she had more and had them donenicely and well, because it's
all about that time factor of it.
Share also, carol, if you canremember, and if not, it's all
about that time factor of it.
Share also, carol, if you canremember, and if not, it's okay,
but I don't want to butcher it.
You said something to me aboutthe time factor, about even our
lives.
People think they have all ofthe time in the world, but when
(42:08):
we talked a while back, you saidsomething about dinosaurs and
the frame that they had on earthand stuff.
Girl, that was so powerful.
I've been wanting to tellpeople that, but I don't want to
mess it up.
Can you say it please?
Carol Kabaale (42:25):
if you can remember.
Oh, I love that, I love thatyou put that okay girl, yes,
what we spoke about was reallytrue, right, right.
So everybody knows dinosaurswere on the planet, right?
But for some reason, we allhave this.
I don't know who told us thislie, but we all have this lie in
our head that they were herefor like a little short period
(42:46):
and then this rock came and poof, they went away and then you
know the rest evolution happenedand humans showed up, right.
Here's the truth and, like Idon't know the exact figures,
you're going to have to Googlethis but dinosaurs were here for
like a huge amount of time.
If you want to think about it,they were here for like a
ruler's length.
They were here for like a wholesub.
They were here for like abuilding.
(43:06):
I want an elephant.
Think of something big, a whale, like they were here for that
big of a time.
Okay, humans have been here forlike a second.
If you want to think about itin hours, let's use time.
Actually, that's a great way.
Dinosaurs have been here fordays and humans have been here
for a second.
Yes, is wild to me what you aredoing right now feels and be so
(43:31):
insignificant right, you maythink like oh, we've only been
here for like a second, it's soexactly exactly tell you right
now, because it's soinsignificant.
Why not wow, wow.
It doesn't matter, becausewe've only been here for a
second.
Why not?
Why not bet on yourself?
(43:52):
Why not try?
No one is going to remember us.
Well, maybe you in like 10years, 20 years, 30 years.
Yes, I don't even remember theyoung girl I was when I was in
high school.
Alethea Felton (44:06):
I mean that's right, but I try not to remind
myself of it.
Carol Kabaale (44:09):
Yeah, yeah exactly One little bit right.
We're still talking aboutdinosaurs like now, and that's
right years and years.
So I want you to use that andremember, right, if we've only
been here for a little bit andit doesn't really matter, I mean
(44:31):
no, it doesn't really matter.
I mean it doesn't really matter.
Alethea Felton (44:33):
That's right.
Carol Kabaale (44:34):
Go for it.
Alethea Felton (44:35):
Go for it.
Do it.
Thank you for sharing that.
And as we come to a close,thank you for that.
And as we come to a close,carol, let me ask you first of
all, before I ask the closingquestion, if a person wants to
contact you and say, hey, I'm acoach, I'm interested in
(44:58):
learning more about Carol, oreven if there's a podcaster or
someone with the show watchingthis or listening and say I'd
love to have her on my show, howcan people connect with you,
carol?
Carol Kabaale (45:13):
So everywhere online, my name is simply Carol
Kabale.
I'm sure it will be on the shownotes and if you feel inclined
to think, hmm, I thought aboutadvertising.
I want to figure this Facebookads thing out.
I want to tell you I've gotyour back okay.
I don't want you to take yourmoney, throw it at the wall and
hope it's going to stay.
I have created a Facebook quiz.
(45:36):
It's going to be two minutes ofyour time.
You're going to take this quizand it's going to tell you if
you should be investing in ads,if now is the time for you to
invest in yourself and amplifyyour message.
So if that sounds likesomething you want to do, then
please go find the link.
I'm sure it will be around heresomewhere.
Alethea Felton (45:53):
Yes, wonderful, thank you, and just a couple of
quick closing questions.
Carol, if you could give youryounger self, if you could go
back in time before you evenstarted business and give
yourself one piece of advicebefore you even started your
(46:14):
first business, what would it be?
Carol Kabaale (46:18):
I'll probably tell her it's gonna be okay.
Yeah, because it's.
It was hard.
I felt like younger carolspecifically.
She always wanted to fit in,she wanted to be accepted, and
the things that make youngerCarol want to dim her light be
part of the group are the thingsthat people now celebrate.
(46:42):
Are the things that have made mybusiness unique, are the things
that have made me a great wife,a great friend.
And I also want to say that I'mnot just saying these things
because, like, oh Carol, shethinks she's all that in a
packet of chips or something.
These are things I've been toldbecause of qualities that
before I thought I shouldn'tshare, that I needed to dim
(47:05):
myself, that I needed to be morequiet, that I needed to be more
reserved, that I should boastabout myself, that I shouldn't
be so confident.
These are things that havehelped me to be a great guest on
podcast.
To so to help people, and thatwouldn't have happened if I said
, oh no, let me just stay justbeing you, just being you yeah,
(47:27):
so it's gonna be okay, that'sright, and the things that you
find weird are the things thatmake you great they sure are are
.
Alethea Felton (47:36):
Oh, I love it.
Oh, my gosh, girl, I love this.
And so, as we come to a close,carol, what legacy do you want
to leave in the footprints ofthis earth, whether it's in your
business or even in just yourpersonal life?
What's the legacy that you wantto leave?
Carol Kabaale (47:59):
For me.
I really just want to be thefirst one to break big barriers
in, like my family per se.
Like for me, one of the thingsI really feel like is really
important.
Why I like having so much timeis because I like relationships,
so I want to break thosegenerational curses of like
(48:20):
things and patterns, likedivorce things, like people not
having enough finances, peoplealways having to depend on
someone in their family.
Alethea Felton (48:27):
Exactly.
Carol Kabaale (48:28):
These are things that will not be happening in my
family Exactly.
Like no, be happening, yeah, inmy family exactly right now.
Like no, and I mean, if that isyour situation and if that's
what you want to do, I respectyour decisions.
But I am trying to break thingsthat are beyond me so that my
littles or my tiny humans canlook back and go oh okay, if we
(48:51):
want to start a business, Iguess we can.
Oh, if we want to stay inmarriage and like a business, I
guess we can.
Oh, if we want to stay inmarriage and like not get
divorced, I guess we can.
Look, carol did it.
So I just want to be the firstand I know that's hard because
it's a lonely road.
No one's ever been there but Ithink it's needed because I
think I'm tired and I think myancestors are tired of going
(49:13):
through the same cycle.
I think I'm tired and I thinkmy ancestors are tired of going
through the same thing.
You know, I, I really believein this.
I really want to just say thislife gives you the same problems
until you choose to choosedifferently so I agree right.
So if you are going throughsomething you're like, why does
this keep coming up?
What are you choosing?
(49:34):
What are you choosing?
Because, for example, if wejust did this in a relationship
sort of way, if you keep findinga man who cheats on you, why do
you keep finding him?
That's right.
What are you doing to to bringhim into your life?
Alethea Felton (49:48):
yeah right.
Carol Kabaale (49:49):
So life will give you the same decisions or the
same choice, same scenario,until you choose differently.
So for me, I feel like I'm hereto choose differently and
that's going to be my legacy.
Alethea Felton (50:00):
Oh my goodness, and I am so glad that I chose
you to be on this podcastbecause you are dynamic.
I know that we will continuekeeping in touch.
Thank you, carol, for justbeing you.
You are going to go so far inlife and you will get everything
that your heart desires.
Continue to show up as yourself, but also keep simply serving
(50:26):
others, doing it with the heartof gold that you have.
And, carol, it has been myhonor to have you here as a
guest on the PowerTransformation Podcast, thank
you.
Thank you for tuning in to thisepisode of the Power
Transformation Podcast.
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(50:46):
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Until next time, keep bouncingback, keep rising and be good to
(51:07):
yourself and to others.
Have you ever faced a moment in life where
everything around you feltunfamiliar, where you had to
start over, find your voice andbuild something new from the
ground up?
Well, my guest today knows thatall too well and I'd like to
welcome you back to the PowerTransformation Podcast.
I am your host, Alethea Felton,and today I am joined by Carol
(00:32):
Kabale, a marketing strategistand meta ads expert based in
South Africa.
But beyond Carol's expertise inhelping entrepreneurs grow
their businesses, Carol has anincredible personal story about
transformation that shaped herresilience, adaptability and her
(00:55):
untimely passion for empoweringothers, especially women
entrepreneurs, and we're goingto get ready for an inspiring
conversation and we want to diveright into this.
But again, if you have not doneso already, follow the Power
Transformation podcast and Ithank you for your continued
(01:16):
support.
We always begin this podcastwith a positive affirmation,
speaking those things as if theyare so.
I will say the affirmation onceand you repeat it I embrace
change and have the courage tocreate a life of influence and
purpose.
(01:36):
Carol Kabale, I am so glad tohave her on my show today.
She is a powerhouse in her ownright and welcome to the Power
Transformation Podcast.
I'm so happy to have you, Yay.
Carol Kabaale (01:56):
I'm so excited to be here.
Honestly, it's going to be agood show.
Alethea Felton (01:59):
Yes, it will be, and I'm just excited too about
just who you are, what you do,and the audience will also learn
more about you.
But before we start, carol,let's just go ahead and jump
right into a fun, icebreaker,lighthearted question.
That is something that we canjust get to know you and find
(02:21):
out a bit more about you.
Okay, carol?
Yes, in terms of your favoriteice cream flavor.
What's your ice cream flavorfavorite and why?
Carol Kabaale (02:38):
I love salted caramel, I'm not gonna lie.
Yeah, it's a little bit like me.
It's like really pretty, it'ssmooth, but it's salty.
It's got a little bit ofsomething you weren't expecting,
you know.
So I like a salted caramel, Ilike that little bit of in it,
(02:58):
yeah.
So salted caramel, hit me up.
What?
Alethea Felton (03:02):
a clever answer and I love that and you
definitely have that it factor.
You have so much more that youoffer.
So if someone were to say whois Carol Kabale, what would you
say?
Carol Kabaale (03:16):
I would say she is a fun individual.
She is hardworking, she's awife.
She's a dog mom to my littleBoston Terrier, charlie.
She's a dog mom to my littleBoston Terrier Charlie.
She's a good daughter.
I wouldn't say great, but I'mgood, I try.
She's a great friend, I havebeen told, and overall I'm a
person who likes to be ofservice.
(03:37):
I like to help people and Ijust like to enjoy life and use
the time that I'm given in thislocation to serve and be of
service.
Alethea Felton (03:49):
And with that being said, carol, in terms of
you being of service and whatyou do, share with us a bit
about what you do Now we'll getmore into who you are.
You do Now we'll get more intowho you are.
But if you were to say your jobtitle or what you do, explain
that to us.
Carol Kabaale (04:11):
So I have a marketing agency that I founded
about like nine years ago.
In this agency, I helpparticularly female coaches who
want to amplify their gifts andwant to show up and be of
service.
So I help them do that throughmeta ads, which is Facebook and
Instagram, and I help them tocreate ecosystems outside of
(04:33):
socials.
So I want you to like find yourtribe on socials, because
that's where everybody is, andthen I want you to take them to
the second location and continuethat conversation where you own
that sandbox.
Alethea Felton (04:44):
So that's what I do Interesting.
Interesting because, yes,everything nowadays in 2025,
globally, is all about socials,but I do think it's important to
have your own place, your ownplatform as well, and to create
your own stages, create your ownbrand, so so as to speak
(05:06):
outside of that, and I thinkthat's really important for us,
as entrepreneurs and people inleadership roles, to actually do
that.
And your journey inentrepreneurship and just your
entire story of transformationis nothing short of amazing.
And so that leads me to thisquestion.
(05:28):
Carol, you actually shared withme that you're originally from
Cuba, cuba, cuba.
I speak Spanish, just like you.
You're originally from Cuba andyou moved to South Africa as a
child.
Moved to South Africa as achild, only speaking Spanish,
(05:49):
and having to navigate that at areally young age.
So how did that journey fromgoing from Cuba to South Africa,
how did that experience as awhole shape your resilience,
your adaptability and yourentrepreneurial mindset later in
life?
Carol Kabaale (06:07):
Wow, that's a good one.
Alethea Felton (06:08):
I think, it was.
Carol Kabaale (06:11):
I think I needed that to become the Carol that I
am now Starting.
Like you said, right in thebeginning I didn't know English.
So I remember we landed on aWednesday and I think on the
Friday my parents put me in likeplay school and I was just
there and they gave me thispiece of paper and they were
(06:32):
like, if you struggle, you go upto an adult and you tell, show
them this number.
This was back when we had, likeyou know, little tiny cell
phones and they would phone myparents Like that was the plan.
These guys did not have a planbeyond that.
My parents, like that was theplan, these guys did not have a
plan beyond that.
And in that I think it reallytaught me that I needed to find
my own voice.
No one was going to speak forme, no one was going to help me.
(06:53):
I have to help myself.
So you know, fast forward alittle bit.
Obviously I learned English andthen I learned it a lot quicker
than my parents and I was justlike a little bit more fluent.
So I became the familytranslator and that in itself
allowed me to be inconversations that maybe
children were not meant to be in.
In South Africa there's a lot of.
There's a big culture in.
Children are seen but not heard, whereas if you come from a
(07:16):
Hispanic or Latin Americancountry, kids are just part of
the equation.
I don't care what you're doing.
Like you're having a party,kids are there.
You're having a wedding?
Kids are there.
There's no kids thing.
It doesn't work in our culture.
Kids are coming.
So it was really weird when I'mnow the representative for my
family and I'm like, oh, theysaid this, oh, she's asking that
, and you know, I think thatdynamic gave me a lot of
(07:38):
confidence.
It gave me a lot ofunderstanding to listen so that
I can interpret well, and itjust gave me amazing people
skills.
I mean, I love being aroundpeople.
I've always been like someonewho enjoys that community feel.
So it was.
Those are the skills I wouldsay that have I still use today
(07:59):
and, looking back on it, that'sprobably where I learned them,
right in the beginning.
Alethea Felton (08:04):
And I will agree with you about people skills
and I'm glad that you brought itup because audience.
The way Carol contacted me isthrough a website that's called
Pot Match.
However, one of the beautiesabout Carol was I get a lot of
people that want to be on thisshow literally hundreds just not
(08:24):
from Podmatch, but from otherplaces.
I have a wait list and I do tryto sift through as many
requests as I can, but as apodcaster and as a person in
general, I can tell who'sgenuine versus just trying to
get themselves out there.
(08:45):
And so what really stood out tome about you, carol, was your
sincerity.
It was as if you know hey, thisis who I am, I'm really
interested and I pay attentionto people that really seek to
learn a little bit about my show.
And so that's what reallysparked me, and I told Carol up
(09:06):
front.
I said give me a little time,but we'll connect and you'll be
on the show.
And sure enough, it's happened.
So I share that, carol, to saythat when was that day?
Or what sparked in you to say Iwant to really take these
people skills to the next leveland be of service to others?
(09:29):
What gave you thatentrepreneurial spark,
especially knowing that you'rethe first entrepreneur and the
only one in your family.
Carol Kabaale (09:38):
I would say, first of all, like I don't know.
If it was like the peopleskills, I would say it was more
for me, like I wanted choice.
Right, I wanted to have choicein my life and I think that
comes to you.
I mean we could dig deep onthis, but I think if we really
dig deep, it starts with, likeyou know, having briefly grown
(10:00):
up in communism and gone backand forth there and seeing that
kind of thing fast forwarding toseeing how, like my parents
were immigrants and they had towork hard and like things were
difficult, fast forward again tolike being at school and being
the only one so I always waslacking of choice.
Choices were made for me.
Alethea Felton (10:18):
I didn't have choice.
Carol Kabaale (10:20):
So when I got finally into my first corporate
job, I I think I told you thisstory Like I loved the people.
The people are great, don't getme wrong.
So they're the people skills.
The people were great.
I make community wherever I canand I think it's important to
have community, but I justdidn't like my job.
I didn't like where I was.
(10:42):
I saw the people who wereliving the life that I wanted to
live and they were way olderthan me.
These people were in their 40sand their 50s and their 60s and
I was like in my 20s and I waslike am I really going to have
to wait 40 years to gain accessto that?
And a part of me was like no,not today.
No, no, no, no, no.
So I set off on a quest, if youwill, to find something bigger,
(11:10):
and it came into alignment intomy life when my husband
proposed to me um, I think Itold you this joke I love saying
that we waited nine years.
He waited nine years, um, andthen he proposed the man wanted
my blood type.
So anybody listen, if he hasn'tasked you yet, maybe it it's
your blood type, I don't know,but for me it could work for you
.
So just saying, putting it outthere, and with that I just
(11:34):
realized that I couldn'tcontinue in my corporate job.
In my corporate job I worked inhospitality and I kept living
past my family, my friends andthe things that I valued the
most.
So it was important for me tocreate choice and create an
environment where I could decidewhat I wanted to do next, and
one of the biggest things Iwanted to do was be of service.
(11:55):
I wanted to help people.
I wanted to be helpful to havevalue and I also wanted to have
fun and be creative.
Helpful to have value and Ialso wanted to have fun and be
creative.
And I think the naturally beingwith people and connecting that
just was the cherry on top,because I like people,
Especially good people.
I like them.
Why not?
Alethea Felton (12:15):
Exactly, and that internal shift of making
you step into entrepreneurshipdespite the unknowns actually
fuel your journey.
And I want to transition hereis because sometimes people will
see a person and think, okay,they have this thriving business
(12:37):
and they have things in place,but anybody will tell you and
you already know,entrepreneurship is hard, it's
hard, it's tough.
I'm in my forties.
You're, of course, younger, buteven with your age, you still
had your ups and downs on thisjourney.
So take us through that, carol.
(12:59):
If a person were to say, well,you're living large and it's
always been easy for you.
Carol, what are some of thebiggest lessons that you learned
from some challengingexperiences in entrepreneurship
and how did they prepare you totransform into having the
success that you have today?
(13:20):
Take us on that journey.
Carol Kabaale (13:22):
I would first like to say it was not easy.
No one gave me anything, um.
So to anybody thinking that no,no, this was earned, not given,
I want to make that very clear.
Just let's start there.
So when I first decided to goon this entrepreneurial
entrepreneurial journey, like Isaid, like I didn't have a
reference point.
(13:43):
I, no one in my family, is anentrepreneur.
People in my family areprofessionals, so they're like
doctors or engineers.
It's the kind of career where,like, you're in a career and you
stay in that career and youdon't really deviate.
So that was the expectation forme and when I decided, I told
you this, I didn't tell anybody,I just kept quiet, and that was
to my benefit and it was alsoto my disservice, because I
(14:05):
didn't tell anyone.
It meant when I started mybusiness I didn't even tell my
fiance.
I just want to make that clearlike it was me and God we were
the only ones that knew that wewere doing this and when I
started I got a whole bunch ofdebt really quickly because I
was funding everything.
I burned through my savingsvery quickly.
I didn't realize what I didn'tknow and what I needed and I
(14:28):
also had this big gap.
Every time I learned something,I needed to learn the next
steps.
I had to buy the next course.
I had to join the nextmastermind.
I had to buy software.
I needed to like hire people.
So very quickly like the creditcard debt was credit card debt,
it was just like it's not great.
Alethea Felton (14:45):
That happens to a lot of us.
Yeah, Happens to it.
I do not know one successfulentrepreneur I am so serious and
I'm talking about ones who areseven, eight, nine plus figure
earners.
Now they all have a story ofgetting into, especially early
(15:06):
on, getting into a lot of debtor losing it all, having to
build it back.
So your story is not uncommon.
Continue.
I love that.
Carol Kabaale (15:16):
so I got into all this debt, but I knew in my
heart I was in the rightdirection, if that makes any
sense.
It was like I didn't see it asdebt in the time.
I saw it as an investment inmyself.
So everything that I spent onwas like that.
I also because I didn't anyone.
I didn't have that mentorshipwithin my family unit.
(15:37):
So, as a person who's grown upreally around family and always
takes advice, it was weirdkeeping this huge secret and not
being supported.
So I learned to build communityoutside of it.
I learned to find people inFacebook groups and in
masterminds in LinkedIn.
I learned to like learn frompeople who were strangers, who
(15:57):
couldn't necessarily judge mebecause they didn't know.
They only knew what they knewdoes that make sense.
Yes, so it was helpful becausewhen they gave advice, they gave
advice on what they know.
They didn't give advice onCarol, because they didn't know
much about Carol.
They were like, oh you, youwant to build a website?
Well, don't do that first,rather do this.
And I was like okay, let's godo that.
Oh, you want to do this, um,maybe do that first.
(16:19):
So that's how I built communityand in the first years it was
really hard because I would saythe first three years I was
basically a solopreneur.
I was doing everything.
I was doing everything like Iwas the person creating the copy
.
I was the person doing the ads.
I was the person creating thecopy.
I was the person doing the ads.
I was the person facilitatingeverything.
It was Carol Inc here.
Alethea Felton (16:41):
That's how it starts, yeah.
Carol Kabaale (16:44):
It's weird because when you come from
corporate you're so used youdon't realize it, but you really
do have a lot of support.
Like you only do your littlebit and then you pass it along
to somebody else, but nowthere's no one to pass along to.
Everything is you from start toend.
So that was something I alsohad to learn and I also had to
figure out the next three yearsof my business.
(17:05):
I would say I had it inpartnership and that also had
its challenges In terms ofhaving a business partner with
you.
Alethea Felton (17:14):
Correct, okay.
Carol Kabaale (17:16):
So the next three years I went into partnership
with this other lady and in thebeginning it was great.
Our goals were very much inalignment.
She had her own agency, I hadmy own agency and we kind of
merged them together to supporteach other.
But during that period, funnyenough, something happened where
I dimmed my light so she couldshine and she became more of the
(17:38):
face and I started doingoperational things.
Now I'm a big fan of everybodystepping into where they're most
needed.
So for me at the time that feltlike the logical step.
But looking back on it now, ittook a lot for me because I am
naturally a people person.
I'm naturally always talking topeople, being upfront.
So it was hard but it wasdoable, right, moving a little
(18:03):
bit forward.
We parted ways.
That's another lesson I learned.
Everything has to be writtendown.
Guys, you don't want to be likeand I mean I should have known
better my parents got divorced.
You don't want to be goingthrough the divorce and then
figuring out who gets what.
The same thing in business.
you want to have like things allfigured out in the beginning,
(18:24):
um so much so that I just saidto her you know what it's fine
you can have everything, andthat in itself also gave me so
much grace, because I was likeit's okay.
Alethea Felton (18:33):
I can so.
So really quickly, just forclarity.
So you started business on yourown, correct?
Then you merged and had apartnership.
You broke from that partnershipbut you said she could keep
everything.
So did that mean you werestarting over?
That is correct.
Carol Kabaale (18:53):
Yeah, oh wow, okay, the reason I said she
could have everything is youknow, don't think like oh Carol,
we're starting over.
That is correct.
Yeah, oh, wow, okay.
The reason I said she couldhave everything is, you know,
don't think like, oh Carol, youwere so naive.
Maybe you should have foughtfor things.
I didn't need it.
To be quite honest with you,the way the partnership was
ending, I didn't want it to endin a negative way and it would
(19:17):
have taken more energy from meto fight for something, for a
sinking ship.
I was like you want the ship,take the ship.
I can go buy another ship, wecan create another ship.
Like I don't need the ship, wow, wow.
And for me?
Alethea Felton (19:28):
yes, did.
Did you come to thatrealization instantly, or did it
take time before you said letme just give it over to her and
start over?
oh no, I, I was mad, I was sad,I went through like a whole
stage of grief with it okay soso tell us that, because that's
(19:50):
important, not not in terms ofdetails of what happened, but
grief.
I'm glad you brought that upbecause instantly people think
of grief as a person dying.
But I know grief to be.
You grieve anything that youlose and that's a real process,
(20:11):
and sometimes people try tobrush over things, but grief is
real.
And sometimes people try tobrush over things, but grief is
real.
Whether it's a breakup from apartner, whether it's losing a
job, whether it's any loss,whether you've lost your home
through a fire or tragedy, griefis real.
Take us through that process ofthe grief that you experienced
(20:34):
with it and how you came to thispowerful decision and you
bounced back and bounced aheadto say let me give it to her,
and to rebuild.
Carol Kabaale (20:43):
Yeah.
So the grief really camebecause my whole identity had
become Carol, this businessowner.
That's who I was.
I didn't know anybody else butthat, because before that I was
Carol the corporate person,before that I was someone's
daughter.
So I was never just Carol, Iwas always Carol, attached to
(21:04):
something and I had workedreally hard to build this
something.
It was my entire personality,my entire world, what I was
doing, I was doing so when I sawthat everything I fought so
hard to get to, I think alsowhat's important to understand
is, by the time that I was inthis partnership, we were
hitting like six figures, sevenfigures, consistently.
(21:25):
This was like, if you will, areal business.
We had systems.
We were like invoicing bignumbers, like this was it, this
is what we all had worked for.
I was there and now it was goneand that felt like utter poop
(21:45):
emoji.
It just felt terrible because Iwas like, oh my gosh, what have
I been doing for the past sixyears?
What were all the late nightsfor?
What were all the sacrifices?
What was all the doing for thepast six years?
What were all the late nightsfor?
What were all the sacrifices?
What was all the debt for, ifnot for this.
And I grieved it a lot in thesense that I was sad, I was
disappointed.
(22:05):
I was like how could I allowthis to happen?
Why didn't I see the red flags?
Why didn't I step into my powerand say, no, maybe I can fix it
?
So it was like this back andforth of emotions, like you know
, like going through anger, andgoing through like shock and
denial, and going through likebargaining with myself, like
maybe we can do this, maybe wecan do so.
It was really was grieving thisthing that was now gone and
(22:30):
eventually I landed on I don'tneed this.
I landed on I don't need this.
And I think I landed on thatbecause I was just like it's
going to take so much of me tokeep this going and so much
negativity has already happenedthat it won't ever be the same,
(22:50):
even if I get to keep it or evenif I fight for parts of it,
like it's just always going to.
Alethea Felton (22:55):
There's a part energetically that's always
going to be tied to thatsituation and I just didn't want
that yeah that is such a muchso I I'm just going to put it
out there.
That's a mature mindset to have, especially based on an
audience.
I don't say this in adisparaging or negative way.
(23:18):
Carol is a young woman.
I won't say her age, but whatI'm going to say is this when I
met Carol and I found out herage is something about younger
people that I love, because Iwas in leadership roles at a
young age, a really young age,and I experienced the not all,
(23:41):
but I experienced somenegativity about oh, you haven't
experienced this or that andthis.
And I always reference the lateReverend Dr Martin Luther King
Jr, and I say Dr King was 26when he started the Montgomery
bus boycott.
So you don't have to be quoteunquote older or old to really
(24:07):
make a change.
And I bring this up becausethat was such a mature frame of
mind to have at the age you were, because I know that a lot of
people, even being older, intheir 40s and 50s and up, could
have walked away being reallybitter, disgruntled, fighting it
(24:29):
.
But you to have had that senseshows me the foundation you had,
even as a young girl, of havingto go through transitions and
changes in your life really ledto such empowerment, more
empowerment.
So you didn't just quit, youdidn't go back and say I'm going
(24:50):
to do corporate for the rest ofmy life, but instead, carol,
you decided to thrive.
So take us to that journeywhere you came to that point to
say this chapter may be dead inmy life, but something can be
reborn.
(25:10):
God can make all things new.
Take us there.
Carol Kabaale (25:14):
God can make all things new, take us there.
So, honestly, the first thing Idid is I, after I sat there, I
sat for a little bit, like yousaid, and I just thought about
everything and I was like, howdo I rebuild, how do I start
again?
And I actually did go totherapy for a little bit in that
period and one of the thingsthat my therapist said is like
(25:35):
you need to do something withyour hands.
Now, for those of you listeningthat maybe cannot see me, I am
not the type of girl who isdoing things with her hands Okay
.
I am the type of girl who getssomebody else to do things with
their hands for them.
Okay, I am.
You know, not that I'm notcapable, I'm just, you know
(25:56):
these nails were not built forthat.
Okay, this carol is not builtfor that.
That being said, I was likeokay, okay.
So one of the things that I didwas, funny enough, the office
that we're sitting in.
I painted the whole room.
It used to be a spare bedroom.
I decided, no, it's going to bemy office, it's going to be my
space, I'm going to reclaim this.
I moved the bed out of it and Ipainted the room.
(26:18):
I didn't know how to paint, butI learned.
I didn't know how to use, likethe little scapula.
Alethea Felton (26:23):
Oh yeah.
Carol Kabaale (26:25):
I was doing that, I was sanding things, I was
painting, I was putting stuffdown.
So I painted the whole room, Ichanged the whole room, I
changed the light fixtures, Ichose all the furniture and all
of that.
Once I finished, right, what Irealized she was having me do
was showing me that I canrebuild at any time, at any
(26:45):
moment, and with that kind ofproof of concept in mind, I was
like, okay, let's do it again,and I chose to build this agency
that I've had now for threeyears, if you will, this
iteration of it, with the bestof everything I've learned.
I have hired the mosthardworking people, people who I
(27:06):
also had in my previous agencythat I just loved and I was like
I will always love working withthem.
They are excellent humans andindividuals.
So some of them you know theysaw they went there, but the
grass is greener where you waterit and let's say, I've got
sprinklers.
Alethea Felton (27:21):
That's all.
Oh, I so love you, Carol.
Oh, I love that.
I love that quote.
Carol Kabaale (27:26):
I'm just saying so people came and we were
flourishing and I also made surethat the clients we had.
I wanted to work with peoplewho were going to do something
bigger than profit.
The reason I tend to work withcoaches per se is because I feel
like they're here to be ofservice, but it doesn't have to
(27:48):
be a coach.
It can be like someone who'shere to be of service If you
have a product that you can'treally put into a box, but you
are here to serve and helppeople with it.
That's what I want to work with.
I want to talk to you becauseyou're here for a bigger mission
than money and once you servepeople, the ripples, the wave,
the impact that's what I want itto be about.
(28:08):
I want it to amplify thosepeople.
So that's how we started and Iwas like okay, we're not going
to say yes to everyone.
People came and they're like ohCarol, you're back.
I was like nope, not the rightclient and that was hard to say,
especially in the beginning,because I needed the money, but
I stayed true.
I was like no, no we're going tostay on course, and we did, and
(28:30):
it's been so great because nowI feel like I've found my people
, I have the best team, likethey're all women, different
kind of women, like you know, inages and races and
personalities and circumstancesand I just love that.
I love that I get to be a partof it and in terms of the work
we do, like I said, we justamplify your greatness.
(28:52):
So if you have something greatto say, let me tell people about
it for you.
Alethea Felton (28:55):
Exactly, and you know, even for you, a lot of
people, whether they're inentrepreneurship or not, can
take away some valuable nuggetsfrom you.
To say, like every person isn'tyour client, and so sometimes
there are people who just wantanybody.
(29:16):
But it's quality over quantity,and I even had to learn this
when it came to people onlinethat have a certain number of
social media followers.
Just because you might have alot of followers doesn't mean
that you're really giving thequality offline, and I've
(29:36):
experienced that myself inworking with different people
not all, but different people isthat don't be fooled by how
many people a person has.
It's really sifting through tosee, okay, who's really for me
and not and I always give ashout out to my former business
(29:58):
coach, who did just that for me,where he was wonderful for me
for many years, but he said tome look, you're trying to go to
this place.
I've taken you as far as I cantake you.
You need somebody that can takeyou to that next level, and so
I appreciate even how you, Carol, when it comes to being very
(30:18):
strategic about who you want towork for, that turns out in your
favor, and so my question toyou now is what?
What was the biggest mindsetshift or strategy that really
helped you move from strugglingto sustaining and scaling a
(30:46):
thriving business?
Carol Kabaale (30:50):
Be consistent, be consistent.
Alethea Felton (30:53):
And that's why I can say it again be consistent.
Elaborate on that.
Carol Kabaale (30:58):
Yeah.
So being consistent for me justmeant like, you know, sometimes
you can compare yourself toother people and like, oh, they
have more followers than I do.
Oh, they're better at speakingthan I am.
Oh, they send out bigger, youknow, retainers or invoices or
whatever.
We love to compare.
I don't know where it comesfrom in our DNA as humans, but
we love to compare what.
(31:19):
I will say is you can compare asa benchmark, but don't let it
be.
The difference between them andyou is that they show up every
single day.
They show up when they're tired, they show up when they don't
want to.
They show up when they havethings.
And how they show up?
Maybe some people are smartabout it and they batch, so they
create content in one big onone day and they do everything.
(31:41):
And you're like how does thisperson do it?
Well, they have systems, theyhave batching, they have things
that they use to help them,right.
But it could also just be likeyou don't need to outwork them.
You could be up to likemidnight and that person has a
great, a better strategy.
And just because they'reconsistent with their strategy
not when they feel like itthey're going to get ahead.
(32:03):
Here's the secret, I think tolike selling or just being
successful or anything,especially if you're selling
something People buy when theyare ready to buy not when you're
ready to sell, girl, you'reready to buy.
Alethea Felton (32:16):
You're right, yeah, right, yeah.
And I'm experiencing that evennow with the membership
community I just launched.
I have some founding members,which is great, but there have
been people I've talked to thathave said they know that they
need to be a part of it.
They know it, everythingresonates, but it's still
(32:40):
themselves keeping them backbecause I can't force them.
I can use all of my salestactics and strategies which
work, but at the end of the day,girl, that's powerful.
You're so right.
Carol Kabaale (32:53):
And because of that you need to be consistent.
You need to be the number onechoice for when they are ready
to buy.
That being said, if you onlyshow up on the days you feel
like it, and that's foreverything in life, in your
marriage, in your family, inyour work, if you only show up
when you feel like it, well,those are the results you're
(33:15):
going to yield.
You need to be consistent.
Every day, move the needleforward 1% and watch what
happens, what you create.
Alethea Felton (33:24):
And it can and usually does take time, of
course.
Carol Kabaale (33:28):
Yeah, yeah.
I would say like, look, I lovetelling people I've been at this
for nine years because thisdidn't happen yesterday.
No, this didn't happen twoyears ago.
I did not just, you know,create one thing and became a
millionaire or whatever.
It is that these people areselling smokes and mirrors.
It's not me.
It was on the days I didn'twant to, I showed up.
Alethea Felton (33:52):
You better say so yes, right.
Carol Kabaale (33:57):
And I was like you.
You guys just need to bet onyourself and keep your head down
, like like this.
You need to be like this,because distractions are gonna
come.
People are gonna tempt you withlike quick fixes, quick ways
around, and they work.
It may give you a little boost,but just like if you have an
energy drink, you're gonna goand you're gonna crash out, but
but if you can stay consistent,that's really.
That's the game.
(34:17):
That's what changed everythingin my business.
I used to treat my business Ieven think in the beginning as a
hobby, in the sense that I usedto work really long hours for
periods in my business.
So like this week, oh my gosh,I'm so productive, I'm like not
sleeping, I'm not.
I'm like doing, doing, doing.
(34:40):
And then next week I'm so tired, I'm so exhausted, I'm
emotionally drained, I can'teven show up how I want to.
That's inconsistent.
So I know you're tired of mesaying this word, but be
consistent.
Alethea Felton (34:50):
Girl, I'm not.
Oh God, god, carol, I just loveyou from the second I met you.
I'm just, you are the truth,this is in in your voice.
That it will talk, of course,more offline, but your message
and your voice, you, you, youought to be globally known and I
(35:11):
know that you're well known.
But in terms of global,everything you're saying is so
true and again, even for thepeople, because my audience not
everybody is in business andthis podcast just doesn't.
More recently now, I dointerview mainly entrepreneurs,
but anybody can come on my show.
(35:33):
But what you're saying can beapplied to just life in general,
and this part right here that Iwant to get to because we have
a few minutes left, is foranybody.
This is universal.
Carol, when I first met you, Inever forget, you said to me and
(35:56):
I said, oh, this is major withme.
I think I know in the states,okay, with me being in the
states, I can say and then lordknows, I'm not gonna talk
politics, but what I can say isright now, the climate in this
country is it's really a goodtime to kind of make money on
(36:19):
your own and to be creative inthings, because the economy
right now is kind of uncertain,with a lot of people, especially
in government, losing jobs etc.
And so with entrepreneurship andI'm just kind of lining up this
question and entrepreneurshiptypically people come across
(36:41):
people who are all about makingmoney, making money, you got to
make money, you got to makemoney.
That's well and good ones, andeven with the kind of mindset I
have is that money is a toolthat will open up the
opportunity for more time inyour life.
And, carol, you said that, yes,money and the building wealth
(37:07):
is important, but you said timeis freedom, and with that
philosophy you've built abusiness that allows you to
create more space for what trulymatters.
So what practical steps can notonly entrepreneurs take, but
also people in general anybodylistening or watching this can
(37:29):
take to start reclaiming theirtime without sacrificing growth?
Carol Kabaale (37:37):
so I'm gonna tell you my one of my lovely life
quotes and I shared it with youlast time and this is going to
apply perfectly to reclaimingyour time, and that is what you
don't change, you choose, right,what you don't change, you
choose.
So I'm gonna need you to thinkabout this for a little bit.
(37:58):
Like we don't know how manydays or time we get on this
planet, I hope we get a lot.
Apparently, we're going to liveto 100.
That would be great.
That means I still got somemore time, but each day is not
promised, so you kind of have toput yourself in that place and
be like what am I choosing today?
Is it in my life like am Ieating unhealthy?
(38:19):
Can I fix that?
Is it?
Am I showing up as a bad friend, a bad daughter, a bad wife, a
bad spouse, a bad sister?
Can I change that?
Or am I choosing theserelationships to be negative,
these relationships to not yieldanything positive, these
relationships to just be?
Yeah, you know, I think it's soimportant to have that time.
(38:42):
That's something I want, as youmentioned.
For me, I've never really builtmy business around having like
money is nice, it is nice, but Iwant time, I want to show up.
I want to be that mom whobrings orange slices to my kids
game.
I want to be a wife who's hereand is present.
I want to be a great daughter.
I want to be like a greatfriend and just like pick up the
(39:04):
phone and call my friends.
That happens when you're veryintentional with your time, when
you treat your time as equallyas you would treat your money.
Now a lot of us are just like oh, I have time, do you?
Do you have time?
We all have the same 24 hoursin a day and some of us are
being like overachievers withthem.
(39:24):
Some of us are becomingmillionaires.
Some of us are like going,they're moving across the world
and like living off like thismuch money, but they're on a
beach.
And the rest of us are like howdid they do it?
Well, they did it.
They figured out that theyneeded more time to be happy.
Yes, and I think a lot of otherthings, other factors, like we
(39:45):
get put into this thing, like wehave to compare ourselves.
We have to buy a new house, wehave to do this.
We're constantly consuming allthese materialistic things.
At the end of the day, you know, as my husband says at the end
of the day, the day will end,but also, but also, it's just
like when you have a weddingright.
I spent the most money on thevideos.
(40:05):
True story I spent the most onthe video, the pictures and the
dress, also hair makeup.
Alethea Felton (40:11):
but that's my story.
Carol Kabaale (40:12):
I'll tell my husband that the reason I so
strategically picked those itemsto spend the most of our budget
on is because that's what Ihave left.
Those are the things that I canstill cling on to.
Those are the memories that Ican still have.
I can still see the dress, Ican still see the pictures, I
can still see, you know, themovies and whatever it is of the
wedding.
(40:32):
The same thing thing with yourlife.
What parts of it are you goingto be able to keep?
What memories are you going tobe like wow, that was amazing.
We went, and we went scubadiving, or we went on safari, or
I helped this organization, Iwas of service.
What can you say you can putinto your memory bank that you
(40:53):
really can't take with you tothe next location?
Alethea Felton (40:57):
that is beautifully stated and it's
interesting.
You would bring up your weddingbecause with my parents they've
been married 47 years now andmy mom said the only thing she
would change, although they havea wedding album, she didn't get
professional photographs done.
It was just someone takingpictures and that's the only
(41:21):
thing she would have changed isshe says she tells any bride
invest in a good videographerand photographer.
She still has her dress.
My grandma made her dress, butin terms of that, because she
says those are memories that youcan't get back and she wishes
(41:46):
she had more and had them donenicely and well, because it's
all about that time factor of it.
Share also, carol, if you canremember, and if not, it's all
about that time factor of it.
Share also, carol, if you canremember, and if not, it's okay,
but I don't want to butcher it.
You said something to me aboutthe time factor, about even our
lives.
People think they have all ofthe time in the world, but when
(42:08):
we talked a while back, you saidsomething about dinosaurs and
the frame that they had on earthand stuff.
Girl, that was so powerful.
I've been wanting to tellpeople that, but I don't want to
mess it up.
Can you say it please?
Carol Kabaale (42:25):
if you can remember.
Oh, I love that, I love thatyou put that okay girl, yes,
what we spoke about was reallytrue, right, right.
So everybody knows dinosaurswere on the planet, right?
But for some reason, we allhave this.
I don't know who told us thislie, but we all have this lie in
our head that they were herefor like a little short period
(42:46):
and then this rock came and poof, they went away and then you
know the rest evolution happenedand humans showed up, right.
Here's the truth and, like Idon't know the exact figures,
you're going to have to Googlethis but dinosaurs were here for
like a huge amount of time.
If you want to think about it,they were here for like a
ruler's length.
They were here for like a wholesub.
They were here for like abuilding.
(43:06):
I want an elephant.
Think of something big, a whale, like they were here for that
big of a time.
Okay, humans have been here forlike a second.
If you want to think about itin hours, let's use time.
Actually, that's a great way.
Dinosaurs have been here fordays and humans have been here
for a second.
Yes, is wild to me what you aredoing right now feels and be so
(43:31):
insignificant right, you maythink like oh, we've only been
here for like a second, it's soexactly exactly tell you right
now, because it's soinsignificant.
Why not wow, wow.
It doesn't matter, becausewe've only been here for a
second.
Why not?
Why not bet on yourself?
(43:52):
Why not try?
No one is going to remember us.
Well, maybe you in like 10years, 20 years, 30 years.
Yes, I don't even remember theyoung girl I was when I was in
high school.
Alethea Felton (44:06):
I mean that's right, but I try not to remind
myself of it.
Carol Kabaale (44:09):
Yeah, yeah exactly One little bit right.
We're still talking aboutdinosaurs like now, and that's
right years and years.
So I want you to use that andremember, right, if we've only
been here for a little bit andit doesn't really matter, I mean
(44:31):
no, it doesn't really matter.
I mean it doesn't really matter.
Alethea Felton (44:33):
That's right.
Carol Kabaale (44:34):
Go for it.
Alethea Felton (44:35):
Go for it.
Do it.
Thank you for sharing that.
And as we come to a close,thank you for that.
And as we come to a close,carol, let me ask you first of
all, before I ask the closingquestion, if a person wants to
contact you and say, hey, I'm acoach, I'm interested in
(44:58):
learning more about Carol, oreven if there's a podcaster or
someone with the show watchingthis or listening and say I'd
love to have her on my show, howcan people connect with you,
carol?
Carol Kabaale (45:13):
So everywhere online, my name is simply Carol
Kabale.
I'm sure it will be on the shownotes and if you feel inclined
to think, hmm, I thought aboutadvertising.
I want to figure this Facebookads thing out.
I want to tell you I've gotyour back okay.
I don't want you to take yourmoney, throw it at the wall and
hope it's going to stay.
I have created a Facebook quiz.
(45:36):
It's going to be two minutes ofyour time.
You're going to take this quizand it's going to tell you if
you should be investing in ads,if now is the time for you to
invest in yourself and amplifyyour message.
So if that sounds likesomething you want to do, then
please go find the link.
I'm sure it will be around heresomewhere.
Alethea Felton (45:53):
Yes, wonderful, thank you, and just a couple of
quick closing questions.
Carol, if you could give youryounger self, if you could go
back in time before you evenstarted business and give
yourself one piece of advicebefore you even started your
(46:14):
first business, what would it be?
Carol Kabaale (46:18):
I'll probably tell her it's gonna be okay.
Yeah, because it's.
It was hard.
I felt like younger carolspecifically.
She always wanted to fit in,she wanted to be accepted, and
the things that make youngerCarol want to dim her light be
part of the group are the thingsthat people now celebrate.
(46:42):
Are the things that have made mybusiness unique, are the things
that have made me a great wife,a great friend.
And I also want to say that I'mnot just saying these things
because, like, oh Carol, shethinks she's all that in a
packet of chips or something.
These are things I've been toldbecause of qualities that
before I thought I shouldn'tshare, that I needed to dim
(47:05):
myself, that I needed to be morequiet, that I needed to be more
reserved, that I should boastabout myself, that I shouldn't
be so confident.
These are things that havehelped me to be a great guest on
podcast.
To so to help people, and thatwouldn't have happened if I said
, oh no, let me just stay justbeing you, just being you yeah,
(47:27):
so it's gonna be okay, that'sright, and the things that you
find weird are the things thatmake you great they sure are are
.
Alethea Felton (47:36):
Oh, I love it.
Oh, my gosh, girl, I love this.
And so, as we come to a close,carol, what legacy do you want
to leave in the footprints ofthis earth, whether it's in your
business or even in just yourpersonal life?
What's the legacy that you wantto leave?
Carol Kabaale (47:59):
For me.
I really just want to be thefirst one to break big barriers
in, like my family per se.
Like for me, one of the thingsI really feel like is really
important.
Why I like having so much timeis because I like relationships,
so I want to break thosegenerational curses of like
(48:20):
things and patterns, likedivorce things, like people not
having enough finances, peoplealways having to depend on
someone in their family.
Alethea Felton (48:27):
Exactly.
Carol Kabaale (48:28):
These are things that will not be happening in my
family Exactly.
Like no, be happening, yeah, inmy family exactly right now.
Like no, and I mean, if that isyour situation and if that's
what you want to do, I respectyour decisions.
But I am trying to break thingsthat are beyond me so that my
littles or my tiny humans canlook back and go oh okay, if we
(48:51):
want to start a business, Iguess we can.
Oh, if we want to stay inmarriage and like a business, I
guess we can.
Oh, if we want to stay inmarriage and like not get
divorced, I guess we can.
Look, carol did it.
So I just want to be the firstand I know that's hard because
it's a lonely road.
No one's ever been there but Ithink it's needed because I
think I'm tired and I think myancestors are tired of going
(49:13):
through the same cycle.
I think I'm tired and I thinkmy ancestors are tired of going
through the same thing.
You know, I, I really believein this.
I really want to just say thislife gives you the same problems
until you choose to choosedifferently so I agree right.
So if you are going throughsomething you're like, why does
this keep coming up?
What are you choosing?
(49:34):
What are you choosing?
Because, for example, if wejust did this in a relationship
sort of way, if you keep findinga man who cheats on you, why do
you keep finding him?
That's right.
What are you doing to to bringhim into your life?
Alethea Felton (49:48):
yeah right.
Carol Kabaale (49:49):
So life will give you the same decisions or the
same choice, same scenario,until you choose differently.
So for me, I feel like I'm hereto choose differently and
that's going to be my legacy.
Alethea Felton (50:00):
Oh my goodness, and I am so glad that I chose
you to be on this podcastbecause you are dynamic.
I know that we will continuekeeping in touch.
Thank you, carol, for justbeing you.
You are going to go so far inlife and you will get everything
that your heart desires.
Continue to show up as yourself, but also keep simply serving
(50:26):
others, doing it with the heartof gold that you have.
And, carol, it has been myhonor to have you here as a
guest on the PowerTransformation Podcast, thank
you.
Thank you for tuning in to thisepisode of the Power
Transformation Podcast.
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