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June 5, 2025 38 mins

In this energizing episode Brent sits down with Patricia Rothenberg, Global COO and General Counsel of renowned creative agency 72andSunny. From iconic Super Bowl ads to pioneering value-based pricing and navigating AI disruption, Patricia brings a compelling mix of strategic insight, operational excellence, and unwavering creativity. Whether you're a fellow agency leader or operations guru, this episode is packed with thought-provoking takeaways:


  • How 72andSunny is reshaping the industry by blending human creativity with AI assistance—without sacrificing originality.
  • How value-based pricing has transformed their client relationships and internal culture.
  • How technology helps Patricia’s team make smarter, faster decisions with real-time data.
  • Insights into why operations done right can be the secret weapon behind world-class creativity.


Don’t miss Patricia’s parting advice on embracing change, navigating complexity, and leading with both data and intuition.




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