December 24, 2024 • 34 mins
This episode dives into the concept of manifesting, exploring how specificity, mindset, and emotional healing can shape outcomes. Michelle Chung shares practical tips for aligning desires with core values while addressing resistance and the importance of divine timing. We cover:
• Understanding manifesting and its principles
• Overcoming negative mindsets and childhood programming
• The role of energy and intuition in manifesting
• Healing through methods like Psyche K
• Aligning values with your vision for manifestation
• Recognizing the significance of divine timing and karma
• Explore themes of self-acceptance and femininity in manifestation
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MENTIONED IN THE SHOW:
- Biology of Belief by Dr. Bruce Lipton
- 10x Is Easier Than 2x by Dan Sullivan and Dr. Benjamin Hardy
- Letting Go: The Pathway of Surrender by David R. Hawkins M.D. Ph.D
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Nika Lawrie (00:06):
Welcome to the Inspired with Nika Lawrie
podcast.
Michelle, welcome to the show.
I'm so excited to have you heretoday.
Michelle Chung (00:20):
Hello, thank you so much for having me.
It's so exciting.
Nika Lawrie (00:22):
Yeah.
So I'm really glad we were ableto connect because we're going
to talk about something that Ithink is a really powerful tool
that sometimes people eitherdon't believe in or feel it's
too woo-woo or just don'tunderstand the background behind
it, and there's a lot ofevidence that works.
So we're going to talk aboutmanifesting today and I'm really
excited because you know somuch more about it than I do.
(00:45):
So, thank you, I'm happy tohave you here.
Thank you so much.
Thanks for having me.
Yeah, so you have aninteresting story about
manifesting love and kind oftransforming your life.
Can you, I guess, first kind ofgive a basic definition of what
manifesting is and then share alittle bit about your story?
Um, the the journey is really apowerful story yeah, absolutely
(01:08):
, um manifesting.
Michelle Chung (01:10):
I guess it's like this new trend buzzword
right now, right, um, I guess,to break it down really simply,
it's really just being clearabout what you want and asking
for it and then just allowingand receiving that and having
that actually happen for you.
So I like to, I like to likenit to like um going to a
restaurant.
(01:30):
So if you, you know you have tochoose the restaurant, first
you go with a friend or you cango alone.
You go with um, uh, and thenyou get to the restaurant,
you're given a menu, so thatrestaurant has a particular menu
that that's given.
You don't get Italian food whenyou're in a Chinese restaurant,
right?
So you choose what you wantfrom that menu.
You get specific about what youwant You're like maybe use your
(01:52):
intuition and you go I feellike chicken today or I feel
like a vegetarian dish.
So you choose from the menu.
Your waiter comes and you giveyour order to the waiter.
You just let go, you sit back,you relax, you let your order be
taken to the kitchen, the chefwill start making your order and
(02:12):
you just wait.
You wait to receive it.
You enjoy present company, youenjoy the time that you're
having at the restaurant and youwait to receive it.
So manifesting is pretty muchthe same way.
You have to get really clearabout what you want.
You know, for example, I waslooking for an apartment when I
was in Barcelona and you know Iwas finding a lot of apartments
(02:36):
but not exactly what I wanted.
It was like, you know, thebalcony was too big or the
balcony was too small and youcouldn't put a little table and
you couldn't eat there.
And then my coach said you haveto get more specific, you have
to be more like oh, I want thisparticular balcony, I want this
particular dish, I want thisparticular kind of guy or this
kind of relationship.
And once you get really clearon that, then you can make your
(03:00):
request.
And that's a little bit likewhen you're, you know, if you're
religious, then you might say aprayer, you might ask God or
universe for what you want, andthen you send it out to the
universe, you give it to thewaiter, you let the chef make
your order.
There is a divine timing as well, which you do have to wait.
(03:21):
It's like in the in the seasons, when you you know you're
sowing, uh, your seed in yourgarden.
You don't reap straight awaythe seed that you sow.
So there is a um, there is agestation period, and then you,
um, you wait, but you don't.
You don't wait passively.
You have to be also in, you know, a positive mindset, um, a good
(03:44):
vibration.
Uh, you know the vibration thatyou hold.
I know this even sounds reallywoo woo, but this part is quite
important.
If you're um in a very negativemindset and you're like, oh,
this is not going to work, orlike you know what's the point,
or you know this, this kind oflower negative vibration, that's
a lot what blocks themanifestation.
Um, but, to keep it reallysimple, it is just like that
(04:06):
restaurant analogy you make yourorder, you, you wait, you take
some actions, as in, youactually took the action to go
to the restaurant, right andthen, and then you wait.
But you also have to look outfor signs.
That's where your intuitioncomes in, where the right people
or the right opportunities orthe right things will happen,
and then you do need to say yesto those and take action and do
(04:28):
those things.
And then there's a huge part ofit being in your feminine
energy which is to receive, andthat, I think, is a major issue
as well, because a lot of us areso focused on you know.
Nika Lawrie (04:41):
I've got to get out there.
Michelle Chung (04:42):
I've got to go make it happen, I've got to go
do this and we're pushing andforcing constantly that we're
not so much now femininevibration to actually receive,
and that receiving part is losta little bit.
Because you know when, whensomeone is um, you know wishing
for the right relationship, andthis guy comes along and and and
you're like, oh, but he doesn'tfit my checklist and oh, he's
(05:05):
not the right guy because ABCRight.
So that there's a lot, you knowthere's, there's a lot to
unpack, but but the basicsimplicity of the manifesting is
really just asking for what youwant and and looking out for
those signs and taking thatintuitive action to receive them
.
Nika Lawrie (05:20):
Yeah, I think I love that you put that that kind
of spin on it, because I knowfor me with my husband I dated a
lot of men that were kind oflike the bad boy, not so nice
guys, for a long time, and myhusband is really kind of the
polar opposite of most of theguys that I've dated and it took
(05:40):
me time to get comfortable withjust having a nice guy that
cared about me in my life, whichis kind of sad.
I had to change my kind ofenergy, my vibrations, to feel
comfortable with receiving thekindness and the love and the
affection that he was showing meonce I was able to really
(06:01):
change those vibrations and mykind of comfort level.
it ended up being, you know, Icouldn't ask for a better
partner and a betterrelationship, so I think it's a
really powerful thing when youdecide to kind of shift your
(06:21):
energy.
Michelle Chung (06:23):
That's amazing.
I love how you shared that,because I guess a lot of the
time, what we're seeking andwhat we're wanting isn't
actually what we need.
Yeah, yeah, absolutely Right.
So there's a part of you that's, you know, programmed and I
talk a lot about.
You know the childhoodprogramming, the beliefs that
you have and a lot of people youknow.
We need to know more about thisbecause that that really helps
program our beliefs and,specifically, the subconscious,
(06:44):
the beliefs, the unconsciousbeliefs that we've garnered,
that we've absorbed sincechildhood.
Those kind of things make usseek a certain lifestyle, a
certain way of living, a certainkind of relationships.
But in fact, what you'reneeding is potentially the polar
opposite, which is the healingpart and which is the
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complementary to what you'reactually seeking.
Nika Lawrie (07:10):
Absolutely.
How do we so if we're feelingthat kind of resistance, maybe?
How do we release some of that?
How do we, I guess, firstidentify that that is what we're
experiencing, is thatresistance to it, and then how
do we overcome that?
Michelle Chung (07:27):
Yeah, that's an excellent question and that's
exactly what I'm teaching,because if you're not getting
the results that you want thiswas something a business mentor
was talking about in his podcastand it gave me this huge
breakthrough because before I'dmet my partner, I was single for
five years.
I'd gotten divorced.
When I was in Sydney, I wassearching for that next
(07:51):
relationship and I ended upgoing traveling and trying to, I
guess, find myself that eat,pray, love kind of journey.
And when I was listening tothis podcast and you're saying,
if you're not getting theresults that you want, you're
resisting something.
So, exactly what you've justsaid, how do you release that
resistance?
(08:11):
Because that's really whatblocks you and a lot of people
talk about like letting go ofemotional blocks, mental blocks
that's all part of it but thatresistance is blocking you
because we are all powerful,creative beings and we really
can have what we ask for.
It's just that resistance is inthe way.
(08:33):
So that looks likeself-sabotage, making choices
that you know are not quiteright for you, doing things in a
certain way that's notconducive to having that
relationship.
For example, in my journey whenI was single for five years, I
ended up going traveling.
I had an amazing life.
And I know a lot of othersingle women do a lot of
(08:56):
traveling and have this verybutterfly lifestyle.
That's not conducive to arelationship.
A lot of guys are looking at megoing well, you're leaving in
two weeks and how can I have arelationship with you?
And I had a lot of friends whowere in the same boat.
They would be constantlytraveling, and so you know that
kind of behavior.
It's like oh, you know, I'm afree, liberated woman, I can do
what I want.
(09:16):
Yes, you can, but those haveconsequences and everything you
know has a flow and effect.
You know cause and effect.
And perhaps that kind ofresistance is like well, if I'm
in a relationship, then I'll betrapped and I'll lose my freedom
, my independence, my ability totravel.
And so that kind of behaviorand those beliefs is is, is, um,
(09:37):
you know, forming thatresistance towards having that
relationship that you want.
Even though you're saying Iwant a relationship, I also want
a guy that I can travel with.
And, um, yes, yes, you can havethat, but but there's still
that resistance that's blockingyou.
And another really good exampleis one of the clients that I've
worked with very successfuldoctor, kids grown up.
(10:00):
She's in her mid fifties.
She's amazing, she, her.
Her big resistance was thatbecause she's an A type woman,
she's very able to get what shewants.
She knows that if she puts hermind to it she can actually
achieve it.
And that's very much the themeof a lot of us women who are
(10:20):
entrepreneurs or careerprofessionals, who are very
goal-oriented.
We know we can get what we wantand so if that next
relationship puts us in a worseposition than being single, then
you naturally self-sabotageyour next relationship.
(10:41):
That's that resistance, that'sthat saying well, I'm not.
That's what I talk about a lotas well.
It's not a fear of failureanymore, it's actually a fear of
success.
Because if your lastrelationships, like this
client's her marriage, her pastrelationships, her parents'
relationships full of fighting,arguing, super rollercoaster,
(11:06):
emotional ups and downs, and foryour own safety and your own
psychological and emotionalsafety, you don't want that kind
of relationship, but that's allyou know about relationships
Then that's what's going toblock you going forwards.
Nika Lawrie (11:22):
Right, how do we start to heal some of that
trauma or the kind of thosetoxic patterns in order to, I
guess, release the resistanceand move forward?
Michelle Chung (11:33):
Yeah, absolutely so.
A lot of people will go totherapy, talk therapy.
A lot of people talk to theirgirlfriends.
Anyone who will listen aboutall the dating dramas, about all
the problems with men and it'sall the men out there that have
the problem.
They don't want commitment.
It's really hard dating, can'tfind a good guy and it puts you
into this victim mode, right?
So?
So firstly, you need to takeresponsibility, absolute
(11:55):
responsibility, that everythingyou do in your life you've been
the cause of.
Okay, and and another huge partis that that talk therapy and
constantly talking about itactually reinforces the same.
It actually puts you back intothat vibration of I can't find a
man.
Men are hard, relationships arehard and all that kind of
(12:17):
thinking keeps putting you backand universe keeps giving you
more of the same.
So to release that, I do aprocess called Psych K, really,
really powerful process.
It was actually.
I found that process from thebook the biology of belief by dr
bruce lipton.
Um, because he, from hisscience-based research he's a
cell biologist.
(12:37):
He's saying all the, all theemotions and all the beliefs and
everything's actually keptinside the body.
So when and during those, thechildhood ages where we're
programmed with a lot of thosebeliefs and they become part of
our automatic uh system.
So if we don't release thosefrom our automatic system, clear
(13:00):
that space and then putpositive, healthy beliefs in
place, it's like upgrading yoursoftware from version one to
version 2.0, right, yeah, right,it's exactly like a computer,
like where did we get thiscomputer technology from?
It's from us, yeah, we are abig computer, right?
So releasing that trauma PsycheK is one of those ways.
(13:21):
He also talks abouthypnotherapy.
I don't do that, but the PsycheK I do that because it has been
proven scientifically toactually help you release those
within 10 to 15 minutes, so itcan be a super fast process and
permanent as well.
So it's not when is it?
Nika Lawrie (13:38):
Go ahead.
Michelle Chung (13:40):
Well, basically, it's going to say none of this
has to be a long, drawn out,difficult, burdensome process.
Actually, everything in life issupposed to be easy and
effortless, and so I advocate alot for those easy effort
relationships, because that'swhat they're supposed to be like
.
They don't need to be hard,they don't need to be like
difficult and drawn out.
If they are, it's a learningprocess and that helps you get
(14:03):
towards.
You know eventually what youwant, but things actually need
to just be simple thingsactually need to just be simple
yeah, what is the case like orpsych, is it?
Nika Lawrie (14:16):
psych k case.
Like okay, yeah, what does thatactually entail?
Like, can you give a generalkind of overview of what that
looks like?
Michelle Chung (14:21):
yeah, definitely .
It uses muscle testing.
So, um, kinesio, I have akinesiology background so the
muscle testing actually helpstap into the central nervous
system, I believe, of the body,um, to give like a physical
response, whether it be a yes,no or like um, uh, I'm probably
going to screw this up a bit but, um, it actually gives some
(14:42):
feedback towards what isactually happening in it,
internally in the body, so thata practitioner can help you
release that.
So releasing it just looks like, um, visualizing, so that a
practitioner can help yourelease that.
So releasing it just looks likevisualizing what that trauma
looked like it can get worsebefore it gets better and then
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just allowing that to actuallyprocess.
So a lot of the trauma and I'mnot a trauma specialist, I'm not
a psychologist or anything likethat, but generally a lot of
these emotions are stored in thebody and if we're not allowed
to process them properly andfully and and and release them,
they do get stuck.
So when you have um and I wasspeaking, um, I was on a podcast
(15:25):
the other week and, um, we weresaying the trauma doesn't
necessarily have to be a hugeevent, like abuse or violence or
anything like that.
It could just be someone'ssnarky comment when you were a
child like I use the example ofwhen I was um I don't even know
like old enough to know aboutfashion and I had these like
(15:45):
flowery print tights from Kmartand I thought they were really
cool and we were on the line atSizzler.
We had a a Sizzler, you know,back in the day and you know I
was with my family and you knowa group of older kids in the
line in front of us were lookingat me and making fun of my
tights and I could hear them andto me I was like, oh well, you
(16:05):
know, as a kid you want to beaccepted, especially if they're
the older kids, and you know youwant to be cool.
And so you know I became adesigner and and I worked in
fashion.
I worked in you know manydifferent areas of of um, of the
.
You know design, industry and alot of the things that happen
to you then have a cause andeffect to the career that you
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choose the, the.
You know potentially the dietsthat you have, the way you want
to look, the way you want topresent yourself, the fuel that
you take into your body createsthat your physical image right
To fulfill upon the beliefs thatyou were.
You know you thought to be trueor thought to protect yourself
when you were a child.
Nika Lawrie (16:47):
Yeah, I love that.
You share that, I know.
For me it's funny.
I've been on a very healingjourney over the last couple of
years and what I found I've hadsome very big T traumas in my
life but what I found was it washealing the little T traumas
that allowed me to feel kind ofreleased and free and have a new
(17:11):
kind of take on life.
It was really those little tinyT.
You know it's like kids in highschools, you know saying yeah
whatever it is.
you know what I mean.
But it's those little thingsthat, like you don't really
think matter, but they're inthere, they're deep in your soul
and until you kind of closethat door and heal that and move
forward, they're always goingto kind of hold you back in
(17:31):
little spots, especially likeprofessionally or feeling like
you know.
I think they play a big role inpeople feeling imposter
syndrome or, you know, fear ofstepping out of their comfort
zone, that they may be judged,those kind of things, and so I
think, yeah, really focusing onthose little teases is crucial
for overall well-being 100%,100%.
Michelle Chung (17:53):
And a lot of people say well, you know, I had
a great childhood.
I didn't have any of thetraumas, I didn't have any of
those big tea moments that youknow, as you mentioned.
And it isn't so much the bigones, it's the ones that just
get stuck in your body that youhaven't processed.
So, perhaps because the biggerones are like the bigger ones
that you pay attention to,perhaps you have done some work
(18:14):
around that, but but the littleones, um, that you kind of just
brushed off and went, oh, youknow, that was just kids being
kids and that was just.
You know, um, but your, I guess, your inner child, your, you
know, your little you is kind oflike, hey, but you know, I
didn't get to like get rid ofthat thing, like that's still
part of me and I want to, I wantto resolve that.
So, so simply, just like, um,you know, just just journaling
(18:37):
or talking to yourself, um,talking to your inner child, and
, um, you know, asking your body, you know what, what needs to
be released, or I do also feltsense exercise, um, that I
learned from kinesiology I use alot in my program as well is to
get out of your head and youknow, a lot of our problems and
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digestive issues and stressissues are because we're so much
in our head To focus more onthe body and just ask your body
where am I feeling this tension,this stress?
What does it look like?
What does it sound like?
Are you ready to let go andjust talk to and have a
conversation as you would, likea normal person?
(19:18):
And it was really funny becauseI read this book years ago.
I felt intuitively pulled to gothrough the dusty section of
this secondhand bookshop and itreally called to me this book
written by a psychic healer andI know this sounds super woo-woo
, woo, but she would talk toorgans in in people's bodies in
order to heal them.
(19:39):
Yeah and um.
And one fascinating story shetalked about was she was trying
to heal this little girl with a,with a tumor bulging from her
her eye, and she's trying toheal and she's talking to this
tumor and was kind of like youknow how?
How come you're not healing?
Like what?
What is it that you need torelease?
And this is another thing thatyou know that blocks us in our
(20:02):
manifestation.
Like there's three things thatactually block you.
It's, it's the releasing, whichis something we can actually do
something about and the othertwo we can't do anything about.
It's karma.
So this little girl had been atorturer in her past life and
was receiving her karma.
I know it sounds terrible.
She used to poke out people'seyes with a hot rod.
(20:22):
So now she's got this bulgingyou know thing in this lifetime.
And then divine timing.
So that those three things thedivine timing, the karma we we
can't do much about.
That's just.
You know, I believe that it'sin our lifetime to just live
that out in this lifetime.
But the resistance you can dosomething about and that's
that's the work that I'm doingwith with the women in my
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program to help release thatabsolutely.
Nika Lawrie (20:47):
I love that kind of feeds into.
My next question is talkingabout kind of aligning ourself
and our thoughts and our valueswith what our kind of vision is
for the future.
Can you give some maybesuggestions or tips that you
might have to help people startto?
One, maybe cultivate theirvision and get more clear on
(21:09):
what they want, but two, how tostart to really align with that
vision in order to manifest kindof effortlessly I guess?
Michelle Chung (21:17):
Yeah, definitely .
Well, the first step isdefinitely the release.
So once you've done thatrelease, you can start from a
clean slate and the second stepwould be to actually rewrite.
So that's exactly what you'reasking now how do we rewrite our
future so it's actuallyconducive to what we want?
We basically need to get toknow ourselves.
(21:37):
What exactly is it that we want?
It's like the Holy Grail inlife.
How much do we know about whatwe want?
I was reading an amazing book10X is greater than 2X, dan
Sullivan.
He talks about just living alife of going for what you want,
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not what you need.
So this is a very big part ofrewriting your future is to get
really to know yourself so youknow what you want.
And it's not bad to go for whatyou want.
It's not greedy, it's not likeyou know all those things that
society has programmed into us.
You know we're so much intolike, oh no, but you don't need
that as a child.
Like you don't need that candy,you don't need the.
(22:20):
You know to go over to yourfriends to play date today
because I'm busy.
You know I can't take you there, so we've been conditioned to
very much go, for you know youneed to be in a relationship
with a man of you know makesgood money and he works a good
job, and you know he's got ahouse already and he's got like
stability.
You know that that's whatsociety tells you you need.
(22:41):
So getting in touch withyourself and really
understanding what you want.
Oh, I want a man who's like youknow, really kind and generous,
and you know um we have, we haveum, you know he he listens to
me when I'm you know, you knowhave PMS or something and you
know, and just those, thosethings align to your core values
(23:02):
and that and that's a huge oneas well, because we're looking
for relationships based on youknow what other people say we
need, but we need to startlooking for relationships based
on our core values and what wewant, and that's really the path
forward.
Those are the first stepsforward, but we need to start
looking for relationships basedon our core values and what we
want, and that's really the pathforward.
Those are the first stepsforward, and don't be so
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concerned with taking massiveactions straight away, because a
lot of us are like you know,you have to take actions.
You need to get yourself outthere.
You need to go on dates andgive yourself some space and
grace to actually connect withyourself and sit back and just
go.
Oh, I didn't think I reallywanted that, but now I realize
that's really important becausethat's aligned to my core values
of freedom and independence andand health yeah um, so.
(23:48):
So give yourself some space to,to redesign a new lifetime,
because you've let go of a hugepart of this lifetime of
programming since the age of youknow, your early years, up to
six or seven years old.
So now you're in this new phasewhere you want to create a new
life.
Don't rush it.
Give yourself some time andthat will come to you as well.
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With that timing as well, thatdivine timing that I was talking
about, people will start toappear once you change your
energy, your vibration, yourfrequency, if your listeners are
really interested inunderstanding that vibration
frequency.
I think Dr David I forget hisname he wrote the book Letting
(24:33):
Go.
His work is in a lot of myteaching as well.
He talks about the levels ofvibration, of frequency, and
understanding how that works.
Another really good book is theKabbalion.
That talks about the universallaws and how to actually live by
.
Yeah, that book changed my lifefor sure right right yeah and um
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, just playing, playing the gamewith the rules, instead of just
trying to change the rules ordefy the laws of gravity,
doesn't work.
You're just pushing a bigboulder uphill, yeah right.
So so play within those rules,give yourself some space and
grace and and just um and justknow that things I hate the word
(25:18):
should, but things are meant tobe effortless and easy.
The universe has designed thatfor us.
When we're pushing that bigboulder uphill, we have that
resistance and that that'sthat's the thing to recognize as
well before you before much youknow, into a space of like
trying too hard because itreally doesn't have to be that
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way, kind of been through andreally I've really redefined
what I want for my future andwhat my you know what my vision
of myself is and really gottenvery clear about the vision of
(26:04):
what I want to bring to theworld and and.
Nika Lawrie (26:08):
but it took time and for a long time.
I was very hard on myself, likewhy isn't this, why can't you
figure it out?
Like you're you know you'rescrewing things up because you
can't figure out what you wantto do Like, why is this so hard?
And what I realized now, lookingback, is I needed that time to
heal, to let go, to stop feelingthat resistance and to really
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start to learn enough about howthe universe works and how
things come and go into yourlife and understanding the
different you know energyfrequencies.
And when I started tounderstand that my entire energy
of myself changed and I feellike just the calmness that I
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hadn't felt before, I feltconfidence that I hadn't felt
before.
And so, yeah, I think, givingyourself that space and
understand that this is going totake some time, but it's, you
know, if you keep trucking along.
I have a sticker on my wall infront of my desk here and it
says I will persist until Isucceed.
You know, if you just keep, dayby day, step by step, working
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on things, it'll start to allkind of clarify and come
together and then the universereally does start to deliver
things, even when you don't evenexpect it.
So I love that you put it thatway.
Michelle Chung (27:25):
Exactly, and that's the feminine, that's the
feminine energy.
Just allowing yourself to stepback and receive that, I think,
is one of the the tougher, themore difficult things now for us
women, especially if you'reambitious and your career
focused.
Yeah, it's really difficult forus because we're so pushed in
this masculine world of you knowyou got to achieve, you got to
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do it now, and if you're notdoing it something with every
minute of your day, you're aloser right and and you know
it's okay to take a break.
Even even me, like, I've beenthrough this whole journey of
like it's okay to take a break,it's okay to like sit on the
couch and you know, um, you know, just do nothing.
And for the for the longest timeit was, it was so hard just to
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do nothing.
You were so used to just doingstuff all the, all the time, and
that's adrenal failure, isn'tit?
That's like you know, your bodyconstantly in fight, flight or
freeze, and you're constantly inthis testosterone-charged field
, movement, and movement is good, but anything overused like
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another mentor, john Maxwell,said a strength, overuse becomes
a weakness.
Yeah, and thattestosterone-fueled lifestyle
has become our weakness becausewe've lost our feminine touch,
that ability to stop and createspace and say it's okay to just
be me and do nothing.
And it's okay that people areexpecting something of me and
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I'm not reaching theirexpectations.
But that's not how I want tolive my life anymore, so I'm
just not going to do it and it'sokay.
Nika Lawrie (28:59):
Yeah, I love it.
I want to be conscious of yourtime.
I know you have somewhere to be.
Before I ask my last question,though, I want to ask if there's
anything you'd like to sharethat we haven't touched on today
, that you just think is reallyimportant, that you think the
listeners should hear.
Michelle Chung (29:19):
Definitely, I think, just to, I guess, to
reinforce those you know and mynext book will definitely be
about that, releasing thatresistance but also
understanding and not forcingthat process that there is
divine timing and there is karmaand play as well, and I guess,
with those three things, just tobalance out those three.
Three things and not force it orpush it like, yes, there is a
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lot of work you can do aroundresistance and and letting go of
that, but if, if you know, ifyou haven't got what you want,
but by a certain amount of timeand yes, it can happen really
quickly that perhaps the othertwo are at play the karma and
the divine timing.
So, you know, being morecomfortable in our feminine
energy and allowing that spaceand going, okay, maybe you know,
(30:04):
maybe it's not meant to be forright now, maybe there's more I
need to do, focus on myself orsomething like that.
And just, I guess I know it'scliche, but be kind to yourself,
like allow yourself some graceis the key.
And for the longest time I wascomparing myself to a lot of
other people.
Like you know, I should havedone this by now.
(30:25):
All my best friends have gotlike three kids and my other
friends have got like familiesand stuff and you know I'm yet
to have my family, but it's okaybecause it's the divine timing.
It's not meant for my path,right now Absolutely yeah yeah.
Nika Lawrie (30:38):
Well, michelle, this has been fantastic.
I'm so grateful for theopportunity to connect with you
and learn from you and, um, Iwant to commend you for the work
that you're doing, cause Ithink it's really powerful,
helping women kind of movethrough what can be sometimes a
very difficult stage in life andreally to get to the other side
.
So thank you for the workyou're doing.
You're welcome.
(31:00):
Thank you so much for having meAbsolutely Real quick before we
go.
Where can the listeners connectwith you?
Where can they find you online?
Michelle Chung (31:08):
Amazing.
Thank you so much.
I have a brand new webinar thatI'm just launching this week,
actually just before Christmas,so thank you so much.
We'll talk about all thesethings that we've just spoken
about in much greater detail.
Join the webinars for free.
You can register for free.
I'll give you the link andeveryone can sign up.
(31:28):
And I'm on Instagram, MichelleChung Coach, and I've got my
website, michellechungcoachcom.
That's it.
Nika Lawrie (31:38):
I'll put it all in the show notes, make it easy.
Michelle Chung (31:40):
So yes, Thank you so much.
Yeah, thank you for having me.
Nika Lawrie (31:43):
It's been wonderful , thank you.
Welcome to the Inspired with Nika Lawrie
podcast.
Michelle, welcome to the show.
I'm so excited to have you heretoday.
Michelle Chung (00:20):
Hello, thank you so much for having me.
It's so exciting.
Nika Lawrie (00:22):
Yeah.
So I'm really glad we were ableto connect because we're going
to talk about something that Ithink is a really powerful tool
that sometimes people eitherdon't believe in or feel it's
too woo-woo or just don'tunderstand the background behind
it, and there's a lot ofevidence that works.
So we're going to talk aboutmanifesting today and I'm really
excited because you know somuch more about it than I do.
(00:45):
So, thank you, I'm happy tohave you here.
Thank you so much.
Thanks for having me.
Yeah, so you have aninteresting story about
manifesting love and kind oftransforming your life.
Can you, I guess, first kind ofgive a basic definition of what
manifesting is and then share alittle bit about your story?
Um, the the journey is really apowerful story yeah, absolutely
(01:08):
, um manifesting.
Michelle Chung (01:10):
I guess it's like this new trend buzzword
right now, right, um, I guess,to break it down really simply,
it's really just being clearabout what you want and asking
for it and then just allowingand receiving that and having
that actually happen for you.
So I like to, I like to likenit to like um going to a
restaurant.
(01:30):
So if you, you know you have tochoose the restaurant, first
you go with a friend or you cango alone.
You go with um, uh, and thenyou get to the restaurant,
you're given a menu, so thatrestaurant has a particular menu
that that's given.
You don't get Italian food whenyou're in a Chinese restaurant,
right?
So you choose what you wantfrom that menu.
You get specific about what youwant You're like maybe use your
(01:52):
intuition and you go I feellike chicken today or I feel
like a vegetarian dish.
So you choose from the menu.
Your waiter comes and you giveyour order to the waiter.
You just let go, you sit back,you relax, you let your order be
taken to the kitchen, the chefwill start making your order and
(02:12):
you just wait.
You wait to receive it.
You enjoy present company, youenjoy the time that you're
having at the restaurant and youwait to receive it.
So manifesting is pretty muchthe same way.
You have to get really clearabout what you want.
You know, for example, I waslooking for an apartment when I
was in Barcelona and you know Iwas finding a lot of apartments
(02:36):
but not exactly what I wanted.
It was like, you know, thebalcony was too big or the
balcony was too small and youcouldn't put a little table and
you couldn't eat there.
And then my coach said you haveto get more specific, you have
to be more like oh, I want thisparticular balcony, I want this
particular dish, I want thisparticular kind of guy or this
kind of relationship.
And once you get really clearon that, then you can make your
(03:00):
request.
And that's a little bit likewhen you're, you know, if you're
religious, then you might say aprayer, you might ask God or
universe for what you want, andthen you send it out to the
universe, you give it to thewaiter, you let the chef make
your order.
There is a divine timing as well, which you do have to wait.
(03:21):
It's like in the in the seasons, when you you know you're
sowing, uh, your seed in yourgarden.
You don't reap straight awaythe seed that you sow.
So there is a um, there is agestation period, and then you,
um, you wait, but you don't.
You don't wait passively.
You have to be also in, you know, a positive mindset, um, a good
(03:44):
vibration.
Uh, you know the vibration thatyou hold.
I know this even sounds reallywoo woo, but this part is quite
important.
If you're um in a very negativemindset and you're like, oh,
this is not going to work, orlike you know what's the point,
or you know this, this kind oflower negative vibration, that's
a lot what blocks themanifestation.
Um, but, to keep it reallysimple, it is just like that
(04:06):
restaurant analogy you make yourorder, you, you wait, you take
some actions, as in, youactually took the action to go
to the restaurant, right andthen, and then you wait.
But you also have to look outfor signs.
That's where your intuitioncomes in, where the right people
or the right opportunities orthe right things will happen,
and then you do need to say yesto those and take action and do
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those things.
And then there's a huge part ofit being in your feminine
energy which is to receive, andthat, I think, is a major issue
as well, because a lot of us areso focused on you know.
Nika Lawrie (04:41):
I've got to get out there.
Michelle Chung (04:42):
I've got to go make it happen, I've got to go
do this and we're pushing andforcing constantly that we're
not so much now femininevibration to actually receive,
and that receiving part is losta little bit.
Because you know when, whensomeone is um, you know wishing
for the right relationship, andthis guy comes along and and and
you're like, oh, but he doesn'tfit my checklist and oh, he's
(05:05):
not the right guy because ABCRight.
So that there's a lot, you knowthere's, there's a lot to
unpack, but but the basicsimplicity of the manifesting is
really just asking for what youwant and and looking out for
those signs and taking thatintuitive action to receive them
.
Nika Lawrie (05:20):
Yeah, I think I love that you put that that kind
of spin on it, because I knowfor me with my husband I dated a
lot of men that were kind oflike the bad boy, not so nice
guys, for a long time, and myhusband is really kind of the
polar opposite of most of theguys that I've dated and it took
(05:40):
me time to get comfortable withjust having a nice guy that
cared about me in my life, whichis kind of sad.
I had to change my kind ofenergy, my vibrations, to feel
comfortable with receiving thekindness and the love and the
affection that he was showing meonce I was able to really
(06:01):
change those vibrations and mykind of comfort level.
it ended up being, you know, Icouldn't ask for a better
partner and a betterrelationship, so I think it's a
really powerful thing when youdecide to kind of shift your
(06:21):
energy.
Michelle Chung (06:23):
That's amazing.
I love how you shared that,because I guess a lot of the
time, what we're seeking andwhat we're wanting isn't
actually what we need.
Yeah, yeah, absolutely Right.
So there's a part of you that's, you know, programmed and I
talk a lot about.
You know the childhoodprogramming, the beliefs that
you have and a lot of people youknow.
We need to know more about thisbecause that that really helps
program our beliefs and,specifically, the subconscious,
(06:44):
the beliefs, the unconsciousbeliefs that we've garnered,
that we've absorbed sincechildhood.
Those kind of things make usseek a certain lifestyle, a
certain way of living, a certainkind of relationships.
But in fact, what you'reneeding is potentially the polar
opposite, which is the healingpart and which is the
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complementary to what you'reactually seeking.
Nika Lawrie (07:10):
Absolutely.
How do we so if we're feelingthat kind of resistance, maybe?
How do we release some of that?
How do we, I guess, firstidentify that that is what we're
experiencing, is thatresistance to it, and then how
do we overcome that?
Michelle Chung (07:27):
Yeah, that's an excellent question and that's
exactly what I'm teaching,because if you're not getting
the results that you want thiswas something a business mentor
was talking about in his podcastand it gave me this huge
breakthrough because before I'dmet my partner, I was single for
five years.
I'd gotten divorced.
When I was in Sydney, I wassearching for that next
(07:51):
relationship and I ended upgoing traveling and trying to, I
guess, find myself that eat,pray, love kind of journey.
And when I was listening tothis podcast and you're saying,
if you're not getting theresults that you want, you're
resisting something.
So, exactly what you've justsaid, how do you release that
resistance?
(08:11):
Because that's really whatblocks you and a lot of people
talk about like letting go ofemotional blocks, mental blocks
that's all part of it but thatresistance is blocking you
because we are all powerful,creative beings and we really
can have what we ask for.
It's just that resistance is inthe way.
(08:33):
So that looks likeself-sabotage, making choices
that you know are not quiteright for you, doing things in a
certain way that's notconducive to having that
relationship.
For example, in my journey whenI was single for five years, I
ended up going traveling.
I had an amazing life.
And I know a lot of othersingle women do a lot of
(08:56):
traveling and have this verybutterfly lifestyle.
That's not conducive to arelationship.
A lot of guys are looking at megoing well, you're leaving in
two weeks and how can I have arelationship with you?
And I had a lot of friends whowere in the same boat.
They would be constantlytraveling, and so you know that
kind of behavior.
It's like oh, you know, I'm afree, liberated woman, I can do
what I want.
(09:16):
Yes, you can, but those haveconsequences and everything you
know has a flow and effect.
You know cause and effect.
And perhaps that kind ofresistance is like well, if I'm
in a relationship, then I'll betrapped and I'll lose my freedom
, my independence, my ability totravel.
And so that kind of behaviorand those beliefs is is, is, um,
(09:37):
you know, forming thatresistance towards having that
relationship that you want.
Even though you're saying Iwant a relationship, I also want
a guy that I can travel with.
And, um, yes, yes, you can havethat, but but there's still
that resistance that's blockingyou.
And another really good exampleis one of the clients that I've
worked with very successfuldoctor, kids grown up.
(10:00):
She's in her mid fifties.
She's amazing, she, her.
Her big resistance was thatbecause she's an A type woman,
she's very able to get what shewants.
She knows that if she puts hermind to it she can actually
achieve it.
And that's very much the themeof a lot of us women who are
(10:20):
entrepreneurs or careerprofessionals, who are very
goal-oriented.
We know we can get what we wantand so if that next
relationship puts us in a worseposition than being single, then
you naturally self-sabotageyour next relationship.
(10:41):
That's that resistance, that'sthat saying well, I'm not.
That's what I talk about a lotas well.
It's not a fear of failureanymore, it's actually a fear of
success.
Because if your lastrelationships, like this
client's her marriage, her pastrelationships, her parents'
relationships full of fighting,arguing, super rollercoaster,
(11:06):
emotional ups and downs, and foryour own safety and your own
psychological and emotionalsafety, you don't want that kind
of relationship, but that's allyou know about relationships
Then that's what's going toblock you going forwards.
Nika Lawrie (11:22):
Right, how do we start to heal some of that
trauma or the kind of thosetoxic patterns in order to, I
guess, release the resistanceand move forward?
Michelle Chung (11:33):
Yeah, absolutely so.
A lot of people will go totherapy, talk therapy.
A lot of people talk to theirgirlfriends.
Anyone who will listen aboutall the dating dramas, about all
the problems with men and it'sall the men out there that have
the problem.
They don't want commitment.
It's really hard dating, can'tfind a good guy and it puts you
into this victim mode, right?
So?
So firstly, you need to takeresponsibility, absolute
(11:55):
responsibility, that everythingyou do in your life you've been
the cause of.
Okay, and and another huge partis that that talk therapy and
constantly talking about itactually reinforces the same.
It actually puts you back intothat vibration of I can't find a
man.
Men are hard, relationships arehard and all that kind of
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thinking keeps putting you backand universe keeps giving you
more of the same.
So to release that, I do aprocess called Psych K, really,
really powerful process.
It was actually.
I found that process from thebook the biology of belief by dr
bruce lipton.
Um, because he, from hisscience-based research he's a
cell biologist.
(12:37):
He's saying all the, all theemotions and all the beliefs and
everything's actually keptinside the body.
So when and during those, thechildhood ages where we're
programmed with a lot of thosebeliefs and they become part of
our automatic uh system.
So if we don't release thosefrom our automatic system, clear
(13:00):
that space and then putpositive, healthy beliefs in
place, it's like upgrading yoursoftware from version one to
version 2.0, right, yeah, right,it's exactly like a computer,
like where did we get thiscomputer technology from?
It's from us, yeah, we are abig computer, right?
So releasing that trauma PsycheK is one of those ways.
(13:21):
He also talks abouthypnotherapy.
I don't do that, but the PsycheK I do that because it has been
proven scientifically toactually help you release those
within 10 to 15 minutes, so itcan be a super fast process and
permanent as well.
So it's not when is it?
Nika Lawrie (13:38):
Go ahead.
Michelle Chung (13:40):
Well, basically, it's going to say none of this
has to be a long, drawn out,difficult, burdensome process.
Actually, everything in life issupposed to be easy and
effortless, and so I advocate alot for those easy effort
relationships, because that'swhat they're supposed to be like
.
They don't need to be hard,they don't need to be like
difficult and drawn out.
If they are, it's a learningprocess and that helps you get
(14:03):
towards.
You know eventually what youwant, but things actually need
to just be simple thingsactually need to just be simple
yeah, what is the case like orpsych, is it?
Nika Lawrie (14:16):
psych k case.
Like okay, yeah, what does thatactually entail?
Like, can you give a generalkind of overview of what that
looks like?
Michelle Chung (14:21):
yeah, definitely .
It uses muscle testing.
So, um, kinesio, I have akinesiology background so the
muscle testing actually helpstap into the central nervous
system, I believe, of the body,um, to give like a physical
response, whether it be a yes,no or like um, uh, I'm probably
going to screw this up a bit but, um, it actually gives some
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feedback towards what isactually happening in it,
internally in the body, so thata practitioner can help you
release that.
So releasing it just looks like, um, visualizing, so that a
practitioner can help yourelease that.
So releasing it just looks likevisualizing what that trauma
looked like it can get worsebefore it gets better and then
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just allowing that to actuallyprocess.
So a lot of the trauma and I'mnot a trauma specialist, I'm not
a psychologist or anything likethat, but generally a lot of
these emotions are stored in thebody and if we're not allowed
to process them properly andfully and and and release them,
they do get stuck.
So when you have um and I wasspeaking, um, I was on a podcast
(15:25):
the other week and, um, we weresaying the trauma doesn't
necessarily have to be a hugeevent, like abuse or violence or
anything like that.
It could just be someone'ssnarky comment when you were a
child like I use the example ofwhen I was um I don't even know
like old enough to know aboutfashion and I had these like
(15:45):
flowery print tights from Kmartand I thought they were really
cool and we were on the line atSizzler.
We had a a Sizzler, you know,back in the day and you know I
was with my family and you knowa group of older kids in the
line in front of us were lookingat me and making fun of my
tights and I could hear them andto me I was like, oh well, you
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know, as a kid you want to beaccepted, especially if they're
the older kids, and you know youwant to be cool.
And so you know I became adesigner and and I worked in
fashion.
I worked in you know manydifferent areas of of um, of the
.
You know design, industry and alot of the things that happen
to you then have a cause andeffect to the career that you
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choose the, the.
You know potentially the dietsthat you have, the way you want
to look, the way you want topresent yourself, the fuel that
you take into your body createsthat your physical image right
To fulfill upon the beliefs thatyou were.
You know you thought to be trueor thought to protect yourself
when you were a child.
Nika Lawrie (16:47):
Yeah, I love that.
You share that, I know.
For me it's funny.
I've been on a very healingjourney over the last couple of
years and what I found I've hadsome very big T traumas in my
life but what I found was it washealing the little T traumas
that allowed me to feel kind ofreleased and free and have a new
(17:11):
kind of take on life.
It was really those little tinyT.
You know it's like kids in highschools, you know saying yeah
whatever it is.
you know what I mean.
But it's those little thingsthat, like you don't really
think matter, but they're inthere, they're deep in your soul
and until you kind of closethat door and heal that and move
forward, they're always goingto kind of hold you back in
(17:31):
little spots, especially likeprofessionally or feeling like
you know.
I think they play a big role inpeople feeling imposter
syndrome or, you know, fear ofstepping out of their comfort
zone, that they may be judged,those kind of things, and so I
think, yeah, really focusing onthose little teases is crucial
for overall well-being 100%,100%.
Michelle Chung (17:53):
And a lot of people say well, you know, I had
a great childhood.
I didn't have any of thetraumas, I didn't have any of
those big tea moments that youknow, as you mentioned.
And it isn't so much the bigones, it's the ones that just
get stuck in your body that youhaven't processed.
So, perhaps because the biggerones are like the bigger ones
that you pay attention to,perhaps you have done some work
(18:14):
around that, but but the littleones, um, that you kind of just
brushed off and went, oh, youknow, that was just kids being
kids and that was just.
You know, um, but your, I guess, your inner child, your, you
know, your little you is kind oflike, hey, but you know, I
didn't get to like get rid ofthat thing, like that's still
part of me and I want to, I wantto resolve that.
So, so simply, just like, um,you know, just just journaling
(18:37):
or talking to yourself, um,talking to your inner child, and
, um, you know, asking your body, you know what, what needs to
be released, or I do also feltsense exercise, um, that I
learned from kinesiology I use alot in my program as well is to
get out of your head and youknow, a lot of our problems and
(18:57):
digestive issues and stressissues are because we're so much
in our head To focus more onthe body and just ask your body
where am I feeling this tension,this stress?
What does it look like?
What does it sound like?
Are you ready to let go andjust talk to and have a
conversation as you would, likea normal person?
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And it was really funny becauseI read this book years ago.
I felt intuitively pulled to gothrough the dusty section of
this secondhand bookshop and itreally called to me this book
written by a psychic healer andI know this sounds super woo-woo
, woo, but she would talk toorgans in in people's bodies in
order to heal them.
(19:39):
Yeah and um.
And one fascinating story shetalked about was she was trying
to heal this little girl with a,with a tumor bulging from her
her eye, and she's trying toheal and she's talking to this
tumor and was kind of like youknow how?
How come you're not healing?
Like what?
What is it that you need torelease?
And this is another thing thatyou know that blocks us in our
(20:02):
manifestation.
Like there's three things thatactually block you.
It's, it's the releasing, whichis something we can actually do
something about and the othertwo we can't do anything about.
It's karma.
So this little girl had been atorturer in her past life and
was receiving her karma.
I know it sounds terrible.
She used to poke out people'seyes with a hot rod.
(20:22):
So now she's got this bulgingyou know thing in this lifetime.
And then divine timing.
So that those three things thedivine timing, the karma we we
can't do much about.
That's just.
You know, I believe that it'sin our lifetime to just live
that out in this lifetime.
But the resistance you can dosomething about and that's
that's the work that I'm doingwith with the women in my
(20:43):
program to help release thatabsolutely.
Nika Lawrie (20:47):
I love that kind of feeds into.
My next question is talkingabout kind of aligning ourself
and our thoughts and our valueswith what our kind of vision is
for the future.
Can you give some maybesuggestions or tips that you
might have to help people startto?
One, maybe cultivate theirvision and get more clear on
(21:09):
what they want, but two, how tostart to really align with that
vision in order to manifest kindof effortlessly I guess?
Michelle Chung (21:17):
Yeah, definitely .
Well, the first step isdefinitely the release.
So once you've done thatrelease, you can start from a
clean slate and the second stepwould be to actually rewrite.
So that's exactly what you'reasking now how do we rewrite our
future so it's actuallyconducive to what we want?
We basically need to get toknow ourselves.
(21:37):
What exactly is it that we want?
It's like the Holy Grail inlife.
How much do we know about whatwe want?
I was reading an amazing book10X is greater than 2X, dan
Sullivan.
He talks about just living alife of going for what you want,
(21:58):
not what you need.
So this is a very big part ofrewriting your future is to get
really to know yourself so youknow what you want.
And it's not bad to go for whatyou want.
It's not greedy, it's not likeyou know all those things that
society has programmed into us.
You know we're so much intolike, oh no, but you don't need
that as a child.
Like you don't need that candy,you don't need the.
(22:20):
You know to go over to yourfriends to play date today
because I'm busy.
You know I can't take you there, so we've been conditioned to
very much go, for you know youneed to be in a relationship
with a man of you know makesgood money and he works a good
job, and you know he's got ahouse already and he's got like
stability.
You know that that's whatsociety tells you you need.
(22:41):
So getting in touch withyourself and really
understanding what you want.
Oh, I want a man who's like youknow, really kind and generous,
and you know um we have, we haveum, you know he he listens to
me when I'm you know, you knowhave PMS or something and you
know, and just those, thosethings align to your core values
(23:02):
and that and that's a huge oneas well, because we're looking
for relationships based on youknow what other people say we
need, but we need to startlooking for relationships based
on our core values and what wewant, and that's really the path
forward.
Those are the first stepsforward, but we need to start
looking for relationships basedon our core values and what we
want, and that's really the pathforward.
Those are the first stepsforward, and don't be so
(23:23):
concerned with taking massiveactions straight away, because a
lot of us are like you know,you have to take actions.
You need to get yourself outthere.
You need to go on dates andgive yourself some space and
grace to actually connect withyourself and sit back and just
go.
Oh, I didn't think I reallywanted that, but now I realize
that's really important becausethat's aligned to my core values
of freedom and independence andand health yeah um, so.
(23:48):
So give yourself some space to,to redesign a new lifetime,
because you've let go of a hugepart of this lifetime of
programming since the age of youknow, your early years, up to
six or seven years old.
So now you're in this new phasewhere you want to create a new
life.
Don't rush it.
Give yourself some time andthat will come to you as well.
(24:10):
With that timing as well, thatdivine timing that I was talking
about, people will start toappear once you change your
energy, your vibration, yourfrequency, if your listeners are
really interested inunderstanding that vibration
frequency.
I think Dr David I forget hisname he wrote the book Letting
(24:33):
Go.
His work is in a lot of myteaching as well.
He talks about the levels ofvibration, of frequency, and
understanding how that works.
Another really good book is theKabbalion.
That talks about the universallaws and how to actually live by
.
Yeah, that book changed my lifefor sure right right yeah and um
(24:56):
, just playing, playing the gamewith the rules, instead of just
trying to change the rules ordefy the laws of gravity,
doesn't work.
You're just pushing a bigboulder uphill, yeah right.
So so play within those rules,give yourself some space and
grace and and just um and justknow that things I hate the word
(25:18):
should, but things are meant tobe effortless and easy.
The universe has designed thatfor us.
When we're pushing that bigboulder uphill, we have that
resistance and that that'sthat's the thing to recognize as
well before you before much youknow, into a space of like
trying too hard because itreally doesn't have to be that
(25:40):
way, kind of been through andreally I've really redefined
what I want for my future andwhat my you know what my vision
of myself is and really gottenvery clear about the vision of
(26:04):
what I want to bring to theworld and and.
Nika Lawrie (26:08):
but it took time and for a long time.
I was very hard on myself, likewhy isn't this, why can't you
figure it out?
Like you're you know you'rescrewing things up because you
can't figure out what you wantto do Like, why is this so hard?
And what I realized now, lookingback, is I needed that time to
heal, to let go, to stop feelingthat resistance and to really
(26:29):
start to learn enough about howthe universe works and how
things come and go into yourlife and understanding the
different you know energyfrequencies.
And when I started tounderstand that my entire energy
of myself changed and I feellike just the calmness that I
(26:49):
hadn't felt before, I feltconfidence that I hadn't felt
before.
And so, yeah, I think, givingyourself that space and
understand that this is going totake some time, but it's, you
know, if you keep trucking along.
I have a sticker on my wall infront of my desk here and it
says I will persist until Isucceed.
You know, if you just keep, dayby day, step by step, working
(27:19):
on things, it'll start to allkind of clarify and come
together and then the universereally does start to deliver
things, even when you don't evenexpect it.
So I love that you put it thatway.
Michelle Chung (27:25):
Exactly, and that's the feminine, that's the
feminine energy.
Just allowing yourself to stepback and receive that, I think,
is one of the the tougher, themore difficult things now for us
women, especially if you'reambitious and your career
focused.
Yeah, it's really difficult forus because we're so pushed in
this masculine world of you knowyou got to achieve, you got to
(27:46):
do it now, and if you're notdoing it something with every
minute of your day, you're aloser right and and you know
it's okay to take a break.
Even even me, like, I've beenthrough this whole journey of
like it's okay to take a break,it's okay to like sit on the
couch and you know, um, you know, just do nothing.
And for the for the longest timeit was, it was so hard just to
(28:08):
do nothing.
You were so used to just doingstuff all the, all the time, and
that's adrenal failure, isn'tit?
That's like you know, your bodyconstantly in fight, flight or
freeze, and you're constantly inthis testosterone-charged field
, movement, and movement is good, but anything overused like
(28:30):
another mentor, john Maxwell,said a strength, overuse becomes
a weakness.
Yeah, and thattestosterone-fueled lifestyle
has become our weakness becausewe've lost our feminine touch,
that ability to stop and createspace and say it's okay to just
be me and do nothing.
And it's okay that people areexpecting something of me and
(28:52):
I'm not reaching theirexpectations.
But that's not how I want tolive my life anymore, so I'm
just not going to do it and it'sokay.
Nika Lawrie (28:59):
Yeah, I love it.
I want to be conscious of yourtime.
I know you have somewhere to be.
Before I ask my last question,though, I want to ask if there's
anything you'd like to sharethat we haven't touched on today
, that you just think is reallyimportant, that you think the
listeners should hear.
Michelle Chung (29:19):
Definitely, I think, just to, I guess, to
reinforce those you know and mynext book will definitely be
about that, releasing thatresistance but also
understanding and not forcingthat process that there is
divine timing and there is karmaand play as well, and I guess,
with those three things, just tobalance out those three.
Three things and not force it orpush it like, yes, there is a
(29:41):
lot of work you can do aroundresistance and and letting go of
that, but if, if you know, ifyou haven't got what you want,
but by a certain amount of timeand yes, it can happen really
quickly that perhaps the othertwo are at play the karma and
the divine timing.
So, you know, being morecomfortable in our feminine
energy and allowing that spaceand going, okay, maybe you know,
(30:04):
maybe it's not meant to be forright now, maybe there's more I
need to do, focus on myself orsomething like that.
And just, I guess I know it'scliche, but be kind to yourself,
like allow yourself some graceis the key.
And for the longest time I wascomparing myself to a lot of
other people.
Like you know, I should havedone this by now.
(30:25):
All my best friends have gotlike three kids and my other
friends have got like familiesand stuff and you know I'm yet
to have my family, but it's okaybecause it's the divine timing.
It's not meant for my path,right now Absolutely yeah yeah.
Nika Lawrie (30:38):
Well, michelle, this has been fantastic.
I'm so grateful for theopportunity to connect with you
and learn from you and, um, Iwant to commend you for the work
that you're doing, cause Ithink it's really powerful,
helping women kind of movethrough what can be sometimes a
very difficult stage in life andreally to get to the other side
.
So thank you for the workyou're doing.
You're welcome.
(31:00):
Thank you so much for having meAbsolutely Real quick before we
go.
Where can the listeners connectwith you?
Where can they find you online?
Michelle Chung (31:08):
Amazing.
Thank you so much.
I have a brand new webinar thatI'm just launching this week,
actually just before Christmas,so thank you so much.
We'll talk about all thesethings that we've just spoken
about in much greater detail.
Join the webinars for free.
You can register for free.
I'll give you the link andeveryone can sign up.
(31:28):
And I'm on Instagram, MichelleChung Coach, and I've got my
website, michellechungcoachcom.
That's it.
Nika Lawrie (31:38):
I'll put it all in the show notes, make it easy.
Michelle Chung (31:40):
So yes, Thank you so much.
Yeah, thank you for having me.
Nika Lawrie (31:43):
It's been wonderful , thank you.
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