Being present where your feet are changes everything about parenting - Brad Bialy - Haley Marketing

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What does it mean to be truly present as a father while building a successful career? Brad Bialy, head of marketing at Haley Marketing and host of the Secrets of Staffing Success podcast, tackles this question head-on in this refreshing conversation about modern fatherhood.

Brad opens up about his greatest parenting challenge: being intentional with his time while juggling professional responsibilities from his home office. "The hardest part for me is making the change from work mode to dad mode," he admits, highlighting the difficulty many remote-working parents face without the traditional commute serving as a transition buffer. His wife's mantra—"be present where your feet are"—has become his guiding principle.

The conversation dives deep into how Brad's own upbringing shaped his parenting philosophy. Raised with the core belief that "everything is earned and nothing is owed to you," Brad aims to instill this same blue-collar Buffalo work ethic in his young children. When asked what values he hopes his children embody fifteen years from now, his answer is beautifully straightforward: "I want them to be good people, respectful, and hardworking."

Perhaps most fascinating is Brad's perspective on integrating work and family life. Rather than keeping these worlds separate, he embraces their overlap—even starting client presentations by acknowledging his children might make an appearance on the call. This authentic approach reflects his belief that being the best marketer requires being the best version of himself as a father and husband, too.

Whether you're a new parent navigating work-from-home challenges or a seasoned dad looking to be more present, Brad's insights offer practical wisdom for striking that elusive balance. His journey reminds us that parenting isn't about perfection but intention—and sometimes the most powerful thing we can do is simply be where our feet are.

Listen now to gain valuable perspective on finding meaning in both professional success and everyday parenting moments. Then share your own experiences on social media—we'd love to hear how you're balancing these worlds in your own life.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 2 (00:03):
Hi, I'm Riley and I'm Ryder, and this is my dad show.

Speaker 3 (00:13):
Hey everybody, it's Casey Jaycox with the
quarterback dad cast.
Welcome to season six, and Icould not be more excited to
have you join me for anotheryear of fantastic episodes and
conversations really unscriptedand raw and authentic
conversations with dads.
If you're new to this podcast,really it's simple.
It's a podcast where weinterview dads, we learn about
how they were raised, we learnabout the life lessons that were

(00:34):
important to them, we learnabout the values that are
important to them and really welearn about how we can work hard
to become a better quarterbackor leader of our home.
So let's sit back, relax andlisten to today's episode on the
Quarterback Dadcast.
Well, hey, everybody, it'sCasey Jaycox with the
Quarterback Dadcast.
Welcome again to season six.
I'm grateful for all you dadsand there's some moms out there,

(00:54):
grandmas and grandpas, whoeverelse listened.
Thank you for your support.
The fact that I've interviewedover 300 something dads feels
amazing, but we have a quest toget to a thousand.
That's my, my stretch goal tomyself, which means I'll be
doing this for a while and,never know, maybe my son or
daughter will be kind of be partof the team.
They get down to collegehelping dad interview other dads
.
But, um, our next guest?
Um, I was lucky enough to be onhis show.

(01:16):
Um, his name is Brad Bailey.
He is the uh, he's a headfreaking marketing cheese over
at the fantastic Haley Marketing.
He also is the host of theSecrets of Staffing Success
podcast.
He might be a Rochester Rattler.
He also does game-based supportfor National League Lacrosse
for the lacrosse fans out there.

(01:36):
But, with all that said, that'snot why we're having him on
today.
We're having Brad on because wewant to learn more about Brad
the dad and how he's workinghard to become the ultimate
quarterback or leader of hishousehold.
So, without further ado, mrBiley, welcome to the
Quarterback Dadcast.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
Happy to be here, Casey, how you been my man I've
been good, I've been good.

Speaker 3 (01:53):
A lot's changed since we last spoke.
I got, let's see, I have asophomore in college.
Now I have a junior, now asenior starting her senior year.
She's committed to playbasketball where I played
football in college, which waslike the epitome of an uncle
Rico moment.
Yeah, so cool.
But yeah, it's been.
Life's been good Yourself.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
Things are good.
Little man is done with daycareas of today, so he's going to
go into pre-K over at a localschool over here and my youngest
daughter starts daycare nextweek.
So we're at this weird lullwhere the last week and a half
everyone's been at the house andnext week I'm going to be all
alone man for the first time inlike three and a half four years

(02:36):
.
So it's going to be different,but things are going really well
over here.

Speaker 3 (02:40):
There we go.
Well, we always start out eachepisode with gratitude, so tell
me, what are you most gratefulfor as a dad today?

Speaker 2 (02:46):
We're heading into a long weekend, so I'm most
grateful for time.
Um, I I'm finding having theability just to have time is
very important to me lately.
Right, we all have a lot ofthings going on.
Um, I don't need to tell youthat.
I don't think I need to tellthe listener that either, but
when you're running in a hundreddifferent directions, having a

(03:07):
Monday off or dipping out earlyon a Friday to have just a
little extra time ahead of aholiday weekend, I am grateful
for time.

Speaker 3 (03:16):
What do you think that comes from that mindset?

Speaker 2 (03:21):
I've learned I need to be a little more intentional
lately, Right?
So as I have time and as I tryto find pockets of time, I try
to be intentional with everyminute, right?
I think it's easy to multitask,or at least try to multitask.
And probably a conversationwith my wife at some point and
thinking through you know,listen if you're, I know she
always says be present whereyour feet are.

(03:42):
Um, that whole mentality shewas saying Rich was saying quite
a bit a little while ago and Ilearned from that.
So, yeah, having time isimportant, but also using that
time wisely and not saying likelisten, yeah, I have Monday off
so I can do a bunch of stuff,right, Like, actually be present
and be the dad I want to be isimportant, Love it, man.

Speaker 3 (04:06):
I remember when I was a younger dad.
Uh, I remember people told melike ah, time goes fast, man,
enjoy it.
I'm like what are you?

Speaker 1 (04:12):
talking about.

Speaker 3 (04:13):
It was like cliche cliche, cliche, and I was
listening and I was coachable,but I just didn't hit home.
But, dude, I got a 19 year oldin college and a senior in high
school and I feel like I couldbe just right where you were
with your.
I literally can see my.
I can see my daughter cominginto our driveway and her bike
skidding out.
For the first time I thought itwas hilarious.

(04:34):
Yeah, that was what.
13, 16 years ago.
Oh my God, it's crazy.
Um, all right, and not to gettoo sappy here.
So what I'm grateful for is Ilove the time.
That's a great answer, I think,for me.
What I'm grateful for today Iactually recorded another
podcast this morning, but I'mgoing to give some.
So I'm grateful for some growthI've seen in my son around

(04:56):
mindset and that's something wetalk a lot about in our family,
cause I think I'm one.
I've learned a lot about themind, the power.
The mind, the power of ourself-talk, the words we say to
ourselves, just how you show up.
You can beat most people inlife just by how you show up,
how you, how you're mentallyprepared versus you, attacking
the day versus the day attackyou.

(05:16):
And it's like I'm not lookingto win everything.
But I'm just like, if you wantto be your best.
And so I gave, right at thislittle kind of like half pep
talk that just came to me, andright when he was leaving the
hotel room last weekend when Idropped him off for college, I
said, you know, I learned thepower of the word believe right
at age 41.
I wish I had learned it in myearly 20s or even your age.

(05:37):
I said just believe what you domatters, believe in everything
possible.
And then, secondly, commit withyour fullest Golf shot, commit
to your, once you've made thedecision, you're, you're in your
pocket, committed, and whateverthe outcome is, you can't
control that, but if you'vecommitted to be your best for
that shot, for that, whetherthat test or that friendship,
whatever it may be, just commit.
And then, lastly, I saidremember that the most sick, the

(05:59):
most talented and dangerousgolf club in your bag is not in
your golf bag, it's in your mind, your mindset, and it just like
kind of.
I saw, like a little, his headcome up back and then I texted
it to him and he goes dad, Iwrote what you said to me, I
wrote it down on my little golfscorecard and it's since then.
I didn't realize the impact ithad, but it had an impact on me

(06:20):
as I reflect on it.
But like it's, it's changed him.
He's not coming in with theseexpectations.
Like I got to shoot 68 today,he just I'm just going to go
have fun and whatever.
And he's playing out of hismind right now is that first
tournament he shot two under,took fourth out of 180 guys.
Um, he, he made it like a thingI told you right before we
started recording, made it achampionship flight, took a

(06:40):
senior yesterday to 25 holesplaying an event match right now
.
And so I just tell him againdude, golf does not define you
and I'm just grateful for havingthese types of talks with my
son.
It's super fun.

Speaker 2 (06:52):
It's probably easy for that imposter syndrome to
show itself and present itselfwhen you're golfing right, that
that you know, as you approachthe ball, either the I don't
know if I have it in me to makethis shot, or you know, I don't
know if that shot's in the bag.
I mean, that thought iscrippling at times if you can't
get out of your own head Right.
So I I totally agree that the,the what'd you say?

(07:14):
The hardest club is in yourmind.

Speaker 3 (07:16):
I said, the best club you have, the most, the most
dangerous club you can use toyour benefit is not your bag,
it's in your mind.

Speaker 2 (07:23):
A hundred percent.
A hundred percent.
It could also be the worst club, right?
So I think, flipping thatmentality, exactly as you're
teaching and as you're workingwith him on, I couldn't agree
more right.
It's the best and worst club,depending on how you use it and
capitalize on it.

Speaker 3 (07:40):
Spot on, man.
Well, bring me inside the Bileyhuddle.
I want to learn how you andyour wife met and then tell me
about um, tell me about each,each of your children.

Speaker 2 (07:50):
Yeah, so we met in high school actually.
Uh, we used to work together.
We were.
We were both dating differentpeople at the time.
Um, didn't really work out atthe time.
Like I said, we were with otherpeople and found each other
again in college, started datingthen and have been together now
for quite some time.
So one of those situationswhere we were just kind of in

(08:12):
each other's lives at differentpoints and I guess the right
time but also the wrong timefound each other again and
realized that we wanted to bewith each other.
So we've been together nowsince college, been married now
going on seven years, and now wehave two little kids over here,
bryce and Blair.
So things are going really,really well for us.

Speaker 3 (08:32):
Very cool and what I mean.
Obviously, bryce and Blair areyoung, but tell me what?
What are the things they'reinto that like bring a smile to
their face during the day?
Gotta be.

Speaker 2 (08:41):
Paw Patrol, my man, if it's not Paw Patrol.
Or just outside running aroundmy little guy honestly one of
the most creative brains I'veever seen, and I mean he's three
and a half right, so it's hardnot to get into dad mode and be
like this kid's going to be anartist or this kid's going to be
so creative.

Speaker 3 (08:58):
But he's an ex-Michaelangelo.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
Right, no-transcript.

(09:30):
I mean Blair's just starting tobop around and do her thing, so
she's developing her ownpersonality, but she's taken
right after him.

Speaker 3 (09:37):
Very cool Now, before I get going into some other
stuff lacrosse was that a sportyou loved growing up playing?

Speaker 2 (09:46):
No, I actually never played.
I'm sorry.
I played one year but it was aconflict with baseball and I was
a baseball player.
So I mean I played when I wasprobably fifth or sixth grade.
But somebody that used to workat Haley Marketing played for
the Rattlers.
They needed someone to runsocial for a while, for a season
.
So he got me in contact withthe right people.

(10:09):
That's the outdoor league, theRochester Rattlers met Charlie
Raguse over there who's now areally good friend of mine.
He also worked for theNighthawks, the indoor league.
So when the the summer leagueended in the off season I then
moved over to indoor lacrosse,worked for the Nighthawks for a
few seasons.
The Nighthawks actually movedto Halifax so when that team

(10:30):
folded the league had an openingfor game day social coordinator
at the league level.
So I applied and they at thatpoint had already seen sort of
my track record in the leagueand what I was doing, just kind
of putting in the work to get tothat point where I could have
that conversation Applied, hadthe conversation had the, I
guess, interview.
It wasn't much of an interview,it was just a really good
conversation with Scott Turkinat the time who was my boss at

(10:53):
the time and I've been with himsince.
So I've been with the league.
I've been in pro lacrosse sevenor eight seasons.

Speaker 3 (10:59):
I've been with the league, I think four or five and
the league, I think four orfive, and it's kind of just
progressed that way.
Very cool, love it.
I, uh I don't know much aboutlacrosse.
My, my daughter's boyfriendplays lacrosse, so I got to
learn a little bit more beforehe went off to college.
But I he he's a MIDI I thinkthat's what they call them and
just would just blow dudes up.
So fun to watch.

Speaker 2 (11:18):
It's fun, man.
I I love indoor um, probably alittle bit more than outdoor at
this point.
They're both fun.
I've I have grown to reallylove being around the sport.
The sport's been very good tome, very good to my family,
presented us with a lot ofreally good opportunities.
I've met some fantastic peoplebecause of it that I wouldn't
have had the chance to meet ifnot for Kyle Denhoff, who used

(11:38):
to work at Haley Marketing.
So it's very.
I know you're big on the wordserendipity, um.
So it's very.
I know you're big on the wordserendipity, um, but it's very,
very interesting how just havingone connection can lead you
down an entire, almost 10 yearpath that never would have
happened without one connection.

Speaker 3 (11:56):
Relationships, baby, yeah Right.
Have you ever heard of the book?
Have you ever heard of the bookcalled the slide edge?
I have that's kind of myfavorite.
Yeah, me too.
It makes me think of that.
Like each of theserelationships has been slight
edge moments for you and thelittle doors are open.
But what do you do?
Do you keep being curious andseeing where it goes?
Or you just get complacent andbe?
You know it's like if you'recurious and be lifelong learner,

(12:17):
those doors are going to keepopening, right, right, a hundred
percent.
Um, all right, man.
Well, I want to go back in timeand learn about what was life
like for Brad growing up andtalk about the impact mom and
dad had on you now that you're adad, huge impact.

Speaker 2 (12:36):
I mean life was good growing up, right.
I mean we went to Catholicschool growing up, played sports
, good student, decent student.
Let's not say I was a goodstudent, I was a decent student.
I very much leaned into the C's, get degrees mentality, but I
was a good student, hard workerfor the things I cared about,
right.
And that's kind of where Ithink school was difficult for
me is it's just if it wasn't apassion of mine, I wasn't 100

(13:00):
percent at it, but if there'ssomething that I care about even
to this day, if I getpassionate about something, it's
very hard to pull it away fromme.
I mean you and I just talked onmy show about the marathon that
I ran, right, and it was justbecause of something my wife
said became who I was.
I'm still an active runnerbecause of it, because it's a
strong passion.
If I wake up tomorrow and allof a sudden I don't like to do
it anymore, we'll be done.

(13:21):
But I mean growing up.
I think probably one of thebiggest lessons my parents
taught me was that everything isearned and nothing is owed to
you.
So it's this mentality that youdon't necessarily deserve
anything, you have to work foreverything that you have, and
that's something that I, to thisday, hold very true and I think

(13:43):
what we'll start to present tothe kids right I mean, we're, I
got two little ones right.
So when you think about moldingand coaching and laying down
the framework, you know rightnow it's still, you know, learn
right from wrong and do this,don't do that kind of stuff.
But you know, one of thebiggest lessons, I think, for my
parents was definitely workhard, work for what you want.

(14:05):
If there is something that youdo want, set your sights on it
and get it.
But they're not going to giveit to you.
No one's going to give it toyou, so you have to go out and
earn it and prove to yourselfthat you can do it.

Speaker 3 (14:18):
Tell me what mom and dad did for work.

Speaker 2 (14:22):
Mom is in medical billing and my dad runs an auto
shop.

Speaker 3 (14:26):
Are they still together?

Speaker 2 (14:28):
Absolutely.

Speaker 3 (14:29):
Very cool, very cool.

Speaker 2 (14:33):
A while.

Speaker 3 (14:34):
Did he pass down some of the grease monkey skills to
you?

Speaker 2 (14:37):
Absolutely not, absolutely not.
I actually I just took my carinto the shop the other day
cause I was, I was due for anoil change and an inspection, um
, and I, I mean, I work fromhome, so when I need an oil
change it's because, like, mycar was due technically, like
last November, but the mileage,the mileage just hit because I
don't drive my car.
So it's one of those thingswhere it's like, listen, man,

(14:58):
you're still good, you're good,you like you should probably get
it in here.
Um, but but I mean, I, I am notany sort of hands-on kind of
guy.
No, uh, I am much more of theyou know, pay somebody to get it
done kind of guy.

Speaker 3 (15:12):
Um, no, he didn't, he didn't pass that on to me I
always say the world needs lesspeople like me who can type and
talk.

Speaker 2 (15:19):
We need more people who can fix things well, I mean
I I think we're going to goespecially that way with ai and
automation and things that youknow digital is kind of
reshaping right.
I think we sent an entiregeneration of kids to school to
be coders and deep thinkers andwe've learned with gemini and
claude and chat gpt that in someways those jobs are going to be

(15:41):
very tough to maintain andprove value in a couple of years
.
So I think the blue collar typeof worker I mean, listen, a, I
can't fix my leaky faucet rightnow and maybe we'll get to a
point where there will be a toolwhere it can.
But as of right now, if I havea clog and I don't know how to
get rid of it, I got to callsomebody right.

(16:01):
Chatgpt can analyze my dataright now if I want it to.
So it's very interesting howsort of that landscape has
shifted.

Speaker 3 (16:08):
Yeah, besides working hard and the mindset of
nothing's owed to you, which Ithink is a really good mindset
to have, because it's obvious wenever want to be complacent.
If you think about like two orthree values that mom and dad
taught you that maybe still aretop of mind for you, and then
maybe a story that back of howyou learn those values is
something, tell me what comes tomind.

Speaker 2 (16:27):
It's a good one.
I don't know if it'snecessarily value driven Maybe
we can work it into a value butI remember, um, it kind of goes
along the hard work and justalways set your sights on sort
of the goal and where you'relooking to be Right.
So, um, I remember I used toplay guitar in Buffalo quite a
bit and I tell this story whenI'm, when I'm speaking or
presenting quite often.

(16:48):
But I used to play guitar quitea bit and I remember, coming
after one show, coming home, mymom noticed I was visibly upset
and you know she said what'sgoing on?
What's wrong?
Yeah, you know I played well.
She said, okay, so what's goingon?
She's like, well, there's onlyone person there and it was the
girl behind the counter makingcoffees.
And I remember her to this daysaying Brad, it doesn't matter
if there's one person or ahundred people there, you play

(17:08):
your show, you play the best youcan and you play as if it's one
or a hundred or a thousandpeople, even if I'm speaking now
.
Right, I have probably.
You know I run a weekly podcast.
I do probably two to threemonthly webinars.
I travel for Haley Marketingfive to seven times a year.
I get in front of differentcrowds and audiences and it's
still to this day, one person ora room of a thousand people, it

(17:31):
doesn't matter to me.
I play the exact same set list.
You know proverbial set list.
I do the exact same talkregardless, and I think there's
a value there in the sense ofstay true to yourself, stick to
what it is that you know, workhard right and set the standard
right.
Set the standard not only forothers but also for yourself and

(17:52):
hold yourself to that standard.
It's kind of interesting.
We have a whiteboard downstairswhich probably could have been
a different value, but we have awhiteboard downstairs where I
wrote on it for my wife to see.
She just noticed it the otherday too.
It says they're always watching, set the standard, and I think
that's important, right, becauseyou find yourself every now and
again fading into a habit thatyou don't love or whatever it

(18:14):
might be.
And just to remember that I'msetting the standard not only
for myself now, but now thereare others, there's little eyes
watching.
That's super important.

Speaker 3 (18:23):
They are.
And I tell you, the kids watchmore than you think.
So it's good that you'reself-aware of that.
As a younger dad, I mean, Ithink about like exercise, like
for us, fitness has always beenimportant in our house and, um,
even when, like you know, kindof old man injury I was, I

(18:45):
wanted to shovel a bunch of barkand uh, and then I went and
played golf when I didn'trealize I didn't stretch, but
like I immediately got tennisand golfers elbow.
So I was like Matt 10, I had usboth sides.
It's, it's an absolutenightmare.
Right now I'm like like yougotta be kidding me.
So now I'm like did I try toprove myself I could do all this

(19:06):
bark work for myself?
And then I went and played golf, right, away which is stupid.
I'm not 15, I'm almost 50, yeah,so now, but but doesn't mean I
can't, my legs still work, mystomach still works.
So, like my son or daughter,like, hey, dad, you, you're
gonna be on the silent show, butI'm like, no, I can still run
and walk.
Yeah, I can still do sit-ups,and so it's like that mindset of
like again, we're not gonnamake excuses because something
doesn't work.
We can still do something, youcan still get better at

(19:26):
something, and so I think that'ssomething me my wife always
worked hard on.
I don't know if I learned thatfrom my crossfit back in the day
, but problem um, what, uh?
Did you have siblings?

Speaker 2 (19:37):
no, no, just me.
Yeah, just me.
We had a dog.
Um yeah, we had a little whitedog for a while, but uh, no,
just me.

Speaker 3 (19:45):
Okay, cool.
Um as you think back, um, asyou think back to your one of
your either your favoritechildhood memories or your
hardest childhood memories,maybe one of either is there a
story that comes up that youcan't wait to tell your kids to
help grow in their journey ashumans.

Speaker 2 (20:04):
That's a good question Childhood no Top of
mind, though really the onlything that might come to mind in
that type of scenario iscollege.
So I know, freshman year orsophomore year I wanted to join
the student government and Iapplied to be I'm not even gonna
remember the title now, but itwas like two or three layers

(20:28):
below the marketing director ofstudent government and I wanted
the job.
I wanted to get more involvedon campus.
It was sophomore year, freshmanyear, I didn't really do a
whole lot, didn't get the job,but kind of stuck with it.
And my senior year applied andactually got the marketing
director job Right.
So I think the lesson there isis kind of just again, stick

(20:49):
with it, be persistent, knowwhat you want and go after and
get it.
But I think about, you know,childhood, you know challenges
or things growing up.
Nothing's really coming to mindoff the top of my head.
Um, no, that's probably what Igot for you.

Speaker 3 (21:03):
Yeah, yeah, I just I was intrigued because I, as I
think I've had moments of likethese flash moments or like big
growth moments in my life,younger or older, and sometimes
you tell your kids the storiesyou know, shameless self-plug.
Here, in chapter three, my booktalks about the difference
between hearing and listening.
Well, my kids, sometimes theyheard me a lot and they were
grown up they didn't listen tome.
And as I get older in life,there's been times where they'll

(21:27):
be like, oh wait, I don'tremember that dad Like, or um,
or I don't, I don't rememberthat this bud, oh sure, now

(21:47):
they're ready to listen, versusjust like hearing me.
And I think the reason I alsoask that too, brad, is, I think
the big I'd say three thingsthat not only drive my
consulting business but also aspodcasts is I'm looking for dads
to be as humble as they can,vulnerable as they can and
curious as they can.
So I think when those threeemotional you know, intelligence

(22:10):
skills are present, they creategreat cultures.
It removes ego, keeps people inconstant learning mode and
makes people realize that noone's perfect.
We're all in this journey oflife together.
And I think sometimes, dads,you know whether you're the head
of marketing or you.
You do what I do, or you're thestay at home dad.
You're a bus driver.
Like I always say to dad, ourkids don't give two shits what

(22:31):
we do.

Speaker 2 (22:34):
I say that all the time.
I um, you know I'll go out andI'll travel for Haley and I'll
speak, and you know I could bein a room of a couple hundred
people, right, and you're takingthe stage and you're commanding
the stage.
In front of you know, 300people and everyone's looking at
you and all eyes are on you.
And so you come home.
You still got to take thegarbage out, man, and you still
gotta you still gotta pick upthe Legos and uh, he and I he

(22:56):
was a keynote at anotherconference I was at and he told
me always love coming home morethan you love leaving, and that
was something that has stuckwith me since that's probably
three or four years ago.
He said that to me.
But you know, back to yourcomment of you know you come
home and it's just a differentvibe, right Again, you know I
could be on stage in front of acouple hundred people and when

(23:20):
you're in that room and you'rein that setting, it's all eyes
are on you and you come home andit's like listen, yeah, but you
know garbage has got to go out,lego's got to get picked up,
there's a bunch of blocks andyou know, play food all over the
place, maybe even real food,and it's.
I love that part of it.

Speaker 3 (23:30):
Right, I think it's dads.
I hate to call some dads outthere and be like God, honey,
what are you talking about?
I just I did all this stuff.
I just got home.
Who cares Dads?
Yeah, it's a team, bro.
We got to suck it up and iflet's say, your, your spouse,
stays at home, her job's a lotharder than ours.
Yep, we got to talk to humans.

(23:51):
We got to do no, I'm justsaying our job's not hard, but a
partnership.
I learned quickly as a youngdad.
I either can push back onitself or I can say you know
what One of my favorite piecesof advice my leader early in my
career gave me.
He goes you want to be right ordo you want to get what you
want?
And I want to get what I want,which means healthier marriage,
more time with my wife.
So it's like let's justfreaking do this together, and

(24:14):
so I love that you're seeingthat as a younger dad.

Speaker 1 (24:26):
Maybe you're further advanced than most, so I would
just continue my advice.
We lean in on that one as muchas you can.
Yeah, hi, this is Kathy Orton.
I'm the director of talentmanagement at CoWorks Staffing
Services.
Coworks is one of the largeststaffing firms in the United
States, with operations in all50 states over 60,000 temporary
field talent.
We are devoted to the successand growth of our employees and
our clients.
We are celebrating our 50thanniversary this year and are
proud to have a legacy oftreating people the right way,

(24:47):
doing the right thing,supporting our communities and
putting field talent first.
Our team places candidates inadministrative light, industrial
, call center, distribution,third-party logistic positions
with additional opportunitiesthrough our executive search,
creative staffing and luxury,beauty and fragrance divisions.
We had the pleasure of havingCasey Jaycox deliver a keynote

(25:09):
presentation and trainingworkshop to our sales team this
year and I have to tell you itwas exceptional.
Casey is funny, he is engagingand he is approachable.
What sets Casey apart is thathe really walks the walk.
He lives what he teaches.
He spent time with us outsideof the workshop, really taking
the time to get to know ourpeople.
He shared information about hispersonal life, about his family

(25:31):
, creating the foundation forauthentic relationships, one of
the core elements of thestrategy he teaches.
One of the core elements of thestrategy he teaches.
Casey left our teams feelingmotivated, energized and armed
with the actionable tools totransform their sales
performance.
I cannot recommend Casey enoughto any or any organization

(25:52):
looking to grow and unlock theirfull potential.
If you want to learn more aboutCowork Staffing, please visit
our website at CoworkStaffingcomNow.
Now let's get back to thepodcast.

Speaker 2 (26:00):
I'm trying man, I think we're all making it up as
we go right there's no manual.
Yeah, I mean you're still makingit up, right.
You said you're 300 somethingepisodes in, right, and you're
led by general curiosity, whichis the same sort of concept of
my show.
In that show I'm curious aboutthe sales process and marketing
and recruitment marketing, right.
So it's a little different,obviously.

(26:22):
But there is no manual.
But hearing again that AndreYoung, we're sitting on a bus
going to dinner together at aconference and he says always
love coming home more than youlove leaving, and it's like
those what seven, eight wordshave stuck with me now for five
years, and it's like theselittle tidbits, right, like
somebody listening might catchone five word sentence that I
say that could change someframework for a little bit and
that'd be awesome.
Or they'll listen to anotherepisode that you put together

(26:44):
and they might listen to thewhole hour but catch one
sentence and that could hookthem for the next four or five
years.
That's what we're after, right.

Speaker 3 (26:52):
Yeah, totally.
What's the hardest part ofbeing a dad so far for you?

Speaker 2 (27:03):
hardest part of um of being a dad so far for you
Great question, um, for me it'ssetting boundaries in terms of
time, right.
So I said I'm I'm trying to bemore intentional with my time
lately.
You know, I work from home.
Everyone's here Um, the hardestpart for me is either shutting
off from one I don't phase isthe wrong word, but one, I guess
, component of me and switchinginto the other right, Like, like
, right now, we'll end this,I'll go downstairs and it's

(27:26):
right.
In the dad mode there's noevening commute where I can
shift and I have that like 20 to30 minute reset button A lot of
times I'll go for a run afterwork or I'll, you know, do
something to try to.
You need that, um, you justneed that middle section right
To do something to switch fromokay, from going from A to B.
I think the hardest part for meis making the change from okay,

(27:47):
right now.
Be present with what you'redoing.
Nothing else matters.
Be present doing what you'redoing here, and and kind of.
I try to live sort of fluid andit's very difficult at times.
I'm getting better at it, um,but that's that's difficult for
me.
And then I think the other partand and um, kind of peeling
back some layers.
Here too, I think the otherpart is not being overly selfish

(28:12):
with what I want andunderstanding that it's more of
a team effort over here, right?
So you know, perfect example Iwas training for the Buffalo
marathon last winter through thespring getting all that done.
It was, you know, I think it waslike 160 runs.
I put down 700 miles, a lot ofwork.
And, um, I had said and I toldmy wife this before and I'll say
it again like none of that'spossible without her right, like

(28:33):
if she's not here taking careof everything else that needs to
get done, when I'm running athree and a half hour training
session, like that, it justcan't get done.
But there's a lot of selfishmentality in the fact of, okay,
I'm going to wake up and go runfor four hours too, right, so,
so you need to have the rightteamwork in place to get it done
and a little bit of long windedthere.
But I think the hardest part forme is not only setting time

(28:53):
boundaries but alsounderstanding like, listen, man,
you can't do it all right.
Like we can't be an uh, amarathon runner, we can't be in
the gym five days a week.
We can't also be collectingsports cards and doing all of
this and be a lawn enthusiastand like, like something's got
to give, and at the end of theday it's like, okay, well,
what's the one thing we're goingto lean into right now?
Do that, and the rest is it'sgotta be for them.

Speaker 3 (29:17):
Yeah, that's good man .
You made me think of a phrasethat I say often um, which is um
without agreements.
Without an agreement, theexpectation doesn't exist, and
if it's, if it's, it mainlyexists, but it's in your brain,
and so we have theseexpectations when they're not
communicated, so like if you'relike, let's say, for example,

(29:38):
when you were going through that.

Speaker 2 (29:39):
Walk me through that.
What when they're not?

Speaker 3 (29:40):
communicated, so like , if you're like, let's say, for
example, when you were goingthrough that, walk me through
that, what's that mean to you?
Yeah, so like when you weredoing the, let's say in your
mind you hey, honey, I got to gofor a run.
Yeah, and you just assume thatshe remembers your training.
She assumes that she'smemorizing your training and
where you're at and how you feeland where's your body.
She doesn't, but she doesn't 30minutes before you're gonna
have to do some warm up and and,by the way, this is a
three-hour training and maybeshe forgot that right, so she's

(30:02):
doing, she has plans planned foryou and all of a sudden you're
like what are you talking?
And you're like and all of asudden it's an argument.
Because you're like honey, Itold you I was running, she
didn't.
But the problem is on youbecause you didn't set expect.
You didn't set a clearexpectations.
Hey versus, hey, I gotta runthis weekend.
It's gonna be three hours.
I know it kind of sucks.
You're going to take them forthe chin for us.
However, when we're done, we'regoing to do A, b and C.
Are we good?
Yeah, and sometimes that overcommunication, I found is

(30:27):
because we get going too fast toyour point earlier.
You know we get going so manydirections and we don't slow
down to like just make sure hey,are we on page?

Speaker 2 (30:43):
and yeah, we try to do that often.
Um, we, we have really goodlines of communication.
I, I, I believe in that, right,I don't really believe in
arguments.
I don't think that solvesanything.
Right, like, a proactiveconversation goes a lot longer
for me and a lot farther for methan an what am I yelling for?
Right, like, what is thissolving?
We're too, we're too educatedto be yelling at each other like
cavemen, so like, and yes,obviously there's going to be a
little bit of disagreement everynow and again, but let's figure

(31:05):
out what the root cause is hereand work through it and figure
out, okay, what's really goingon.
Um, but, yeah, man, that's,that's.
That's kind of where I'm atwith that, that question, that
thought process for you.

Speaker 3 (31:16):
Love it.
What?
Um, in 15 years, when the kidsare older, they're graduating
high school.
Um, if you were to sit back andthink, man, these are when when
the neighbors like, ah, thoseBiley kids there, these three
things make them special.
Tell me what you'd say.

Speaker 2 (31:33):
Wow, um, I want my kids to be good people.
I want them to respecteverybody.
I want them to be hardworkingand I want them to have a solid,
hardworking, blue collar,buffalo, new York, work ethic,
regardless of what it is thatthey do.

(31:53):
So I want them to be, I wantthem to be good people, I want
them to be hardworking.
That might be it.
It might not even be threethings.
I think.
If, if, if, everything that mywife and I can teach them can
bottle down into just in yourheart are you doing the right
thing right now and are youtruly treating yourself and

(32:14):
others with respect and doingwhat you know is right?
I think that, and setting thatmoral compass, I think is good.
And then from there, if I thinkit's listen, you can do and be
whatever you want.
It's going to take some work.
Get after it.
I think that would be asuccessful gosh man.

(32:34):
15 years, I'll be.
What am I?
I'll be 50?
Lord Casey, you're painting.
You'd be my age, bro.
Yeah, man.
And you know what's crazy?
You just said how fast.
You just said how fast'm gonnabe 35 this year, in a month.
Here too, um, you just said howfast would you say?
19 years is gone.
I think you mentioned for forone of your kids.
Man, I know how fast three anda half years is gone, so I can

(32:56):
only imagine that it's going toget faster as we start going to
more sports every night and moreyou know music and recitals and
things like that.
Like right now we couple ofthings, but it's only like one
night a week where, like, wehave to be actually out of the
house and be somewhere once theyboth start doing things and
it's sort of just like a wake upand sprint until you can get
back in bed.
Yeah, man, I can only imaginetime speeds up.

Speaker 3 (33:21):
I always just enjoy your wife nailed about be where
your feet are.
I've heard that piece of advicebefore it's.
I literally was taking mydaughter.
My daughter and I wentyesterday my wife's out of town,
my son's in college.
My daughter and I went to meetmy son's girlfriend's family for
dinner Cause my son'sgirlfriend's going back to
college.
We went out to dinner with them.

(33:41):
They invite us and there wassome traffic in our area so I
took my daughter rally the backway and the back way takes us
back by the road.
Junior high.
I was like man, I haven't beenthis way for a long time.
This is kind of she's like well, I go.
It's just kind of like a littlesentimental.
I was like I remember driving.
I used to.
This is back when I used todrive you to practice and I
coached you and I remember onthis one this was cool.

(34:11):
He's like that was likeyesterday, dude.
Yeah.
So it's like um, you knowthere's so many things like I
don't have to go to my kids game.
I don't have to know you get tomy buddy, matt Lowe's.

Speaker 2 (34:16):
I used to say that all the time I don't have to, I
get to, and I never made senseto me because when he was saying
it I didn't have kids yet,right, so it didn't like it
didn't resonate.
But I've heard that before andI I love that mentality as well,
cause there are a lot of peoplewho want to be doing that that
don't get to Correct.

Speaker 3 (34:33):
Yeah, yeah, correct Um.
Talk to me about how yourjourney of marketing happened.

Speaker 2 (34:43):
Yeah, so, um, I fell into marketing man.
So what happened?
How long you got, I guess, isthe right question.
So when I originally went toschool, I went to be an athletic
trainer.
Loved the thought of being onthe sidelines working with teams
, working with athletes to makethem better, faster, stronger,
and wanted to be an athletictrainer.

(35:04):
That didn't work out for meafter freshman year.
Wanted to be an athletictrainer.
That didn't work out for meafter freshman year.
It was a little bit tooscientific and not enough what I
thought it was going to be.
Now, coming off of marathonprep and coming off of training
as much as I do, I'm back intothat mindset.
So I probably would haveactually done pretty good but
just didn't work out.
Ended up getting into marketingbecause at the time I was super

(35:25):
active with music, loved playingguitar, loved playing shows,
was starting to cause a littlebit of a ripple effect in
Buffalo, new York, playing barsand venues and things like that.
I thought the most logical stepis, if I had to be at college
and I had to get a degree and mydad made me promise that I

(35:46):
would stick it out and do it,marketing made sense because
then I could learn how to marketwhat I was doing on stage.
So let's learn marketing, brad,so that then you can use
everything that you're learningto become the business side of
music as well.
That made sense.
Got into marketing, actuallyreally enjoyed it.
Got into the marketing club,became president of the

(36:07):
marketing club, got into studentgovernment, became marketing
director for student government.
So held the two highestpositions that I could on campus
in a marketing role.
Haley Marketing was hiring myfifth year at Brockport so I
stayed an extra year, took alittle bit of a victory lap
because I couldn't get it donein four, still paying for that.
But at the time a friend reachedout to another friend that I

(36:31):
was living with, basicallysaying hey, my company's hiring,
do you know anybody inmarketing?
And talking to the relationshipguy, my best friend still one
of my best friends said, yeah,you should talk to Brad.
So I went in for an interview,interviewed with Brad Smith, who
is still our chief strategyofficer and still over here at
Haley marketing.
He hired me, um, saw somethingin me which I still appreciate

(36:51):
very, very much.
And my last year at Brockport Iwas working for Haley marketing
Fridays and Mondays so I woulddrive in from Rochester, work
all day Friday, drive back tocampus, you know, do the thing
Saturday, sunday, drive inMonday, go to go to class
Tuesday, wednesday, thursday andthen kind of repeat Um when I
graduated then I started fulltime Um, and from there I've

(37:16):
been now with Haley now 12 and ahalf years.

Speaker 3 (37:20):
Okay, and for people who have not heard about Haley,
tell me what.
Tell me what Haley does forpeople.

Speaker 2 (37:26):
Yeah, we're a full service marketing agency
dedicated to helping thestaffing and recruiting industry
, so we are the number onemarketing partner for staffing
and recruiting firms across thecountry.
We do everything from yourtraditional business cards,
pamphlets, brochures, flyers,things like that, your tangible
marketing to the tops of taxicovers and bus wraps.

(37:48):
We've done signage at CamdenYards for a client.
But really our sweet spot isdigital and leveraging digital
marketing for staffing andrecruiting firms.
And in our space a lot of ourclients don't have the budget to
have internal marketing teams,so they outsource a lot of it to
us and we could either come inand say, listen, internal

(38:08):
marketing teams, so theyoutsource a lot of it to us and
we could either come in and say,listen, you know, based on your
needs, you can't find clientsright now.
We suggest one or two servicesall the way through.
Hey, we'll be sort of youroutsource CMO and we'll run a
series of products and servicesand help you start to finish.

Speaker 3 (38:21):
Very cool.
And um what?
When do you think your kidswill understand what dad does?

Speaker 2 (38:30):
Um, my son knows that I talk to people a lot.
Um, because I work from homeand and Blair, I, I, I joke all
the time that my kids are goingto have an MBA in marketing
before they fully know theirABCs.
Um, Bryce knows I talk topeople a lot.
He knows that I travel a lot.
Um, I, I take his squish mellowwith me.
I take a stuffy with meeverywhere I go, what I actually

(38:53):
do.
I mean he doesn't get it yet Ithink they'll know that I help
people in the short term.
I'm always talking to people andhelping.
It's funny, though I meanworking from home.
We have a pretty open house, soI mean no-transcript here and

(39:14):
play in his room like I don'treally stop him.
So he's on client calls all thetime, walking through anytime I
present it's actually the firstslide is like listen, just so
you know.
Put a face to the name, becausethere's a good chance you're
going to either hear them or seethem at some point during this
presentation, so we might aswell, just get that out of the
way, but I've leaned into itright.

(39:42):
I think in the five or six yearsnow that we've been a remote
team at Haley, a lot has changedin the way remote work is done
and the way remote work isembraced.
I think six years ago if yourkid or your dog showed up on a
zoom call, it'd be prettyfrowned upon.
I mean, now there are.
There are meetings where I'mholding Blair.
There are meetings where youknow I have to bring her in
because somebody has to talk,right that second, and you know
I'm in the middle of, you know,helping her, you know.
So it's.
It's one of those situationswhere they, they, they know I
talk to a lot of people and, uh,they help a lot of people.

Speaker 3 (40:05):
I think that's super important.
We said, I mean, obviouslywe've gone down a little bit of
work and I'll go back to workreal quick.
Yeah, you made me think of aclient.
So I was doing some executivecoaching for a client and this
person their daughter came inand the daughter was sick and
she was like she got super.
I could see her face, she gotflustered and I said, hey, it's

(40:26):
okay.
I said, do you want to say hi?
And so I like calmed the clientdown when I was coaching and I
was like, does she want to sayhi to my dog?
And so I turned the video likemy computer.
I said, hey, this is my dog,harley.
And they're like do you wantHarley?
To say to me.
I was like I was having empathyfor the client, just trying to.

(40:49):
You know, hey, listen, we'reall doing this thing from home,
right?
I think sometimes that to me,was just like the right thing to
do.
So I ended up telling my kidsthat story, like, oh, that's
cool, dad.
But it wasn't less about me butmore about like, hey, we all as
humans and parents who workfrom home, it's like listen,
give everybody a little bit ofgrace.
Yeah, you know, it's like I'veyet to meet the perfect husband,
perfect father, perfect mom,perfect wife, perfect company.

Speaker 1 (41:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (41:13):
I've yet to meet someone that hasn't made a
mistake.
Yeah, you know, stuff happens.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (41:19):
I think that human side of it is, I mean, it's very
important to me.
I think it's very easy in aremote and digital world where
listen, casey, I got you for a15 minute zoom, let's get to it,
because I know I only have 15minutes and we kind of have to
like lock in for us to forgetthat we're actually humans.
And like you're actuallysitting in your office right now

(41:40):
and I am sitting here in mind,working and talking to each
other, and we, like I can't askyou how your day's going, I
can't ask you what you're goingto do this weekend, and we can
be humans and you're not just aface on a computer screen.
We need to be intentional withthat.
So it's, um, it's something thatI'm learning more and more and
I think, knowing that, listen,yes, certainly I have, you know,

(42:03):
five to seven calls a day.
They're not on every single oneof them, but if somebody
wanders in every now and againand it happens, we're going to
roll with it and we're going tofigure it out.
And if I got to take a twominute break, I'm going to take
a two minute break and we'll beright back.
And I still care about yourmarketing just as much, I
promise I don't care about yourprogram any less.
Your needs are still just asimportant to me.

(42:23):
So it's um, it's.
It's super, super human, superauthentic.

Speaker 3 (42:28):
And it's almost like for me to be the best marketer
for you.
I also have to be the best dad.
I gotta be the best husband andbest version of me, and if I'm
not the best version of me, I'mnot gonna be the best market for
you.

Speaker 2 (42:40):
I mean, I can tell you very, very honestly, if I
don't get a good amount ofexercise throughout the week, my
marketing ideas are nonsense.
Um, ideas are nonsense.
I get my best ideas on a longrun.
I get my best ideas when I'mactively running, more so than
the gym.
The gym you still have yourphone nearby In between sets.
You're kind of just sittingthere you can say, oh, I don't
look at my phone while I'mworking out, but it's there.

(43:00):
When you're running and you'regone for three and a half hours
or a three-hour training sessionand your phone's in a back
pouch that you can't reach, it'svery hard to run in text at the
same time.
I don't know if you've evertried.
It's not encouraged.
So I mean that's very goodsolitude.
There is very good thought.
That happens.
My biggest talking pillar ofthe year of what the best

(43:22):
recruiting firms do differentlycame out of a long run because
the wheel started turning for meand it turned into a talk that
I've now given probably 20 or 25times this year.
So it's something like that,because I have that solitude
where I can just lock in.
That's where the best ideascome from for me.

Speaker 3 (43:40):
No, I love that.
Before we start wrapping uphere I know you've kind of
teased this one.
I think I know the answer.
I'm going to ask it anyways.
Tell me what is an area of yourdad game that if Brad was
coaching himself?
It's like you know, Brad,you're not.
You're not the best dad here.
We can really improve your,your dad game.
Uh, tell me what comes to mind.

Speaker 2 (43:59):
I would love to, uh, I'd love to be more intentional
with, with my time.
That's that's what I keepcoming back to Do.
I have it here yeah, 4,000Weeks.
By Oliver Berkman.
You read this book.
Yeah, man, so we all have 4,000weeks to live.

(44:19):
If you think statistically, youlive to 80, 80, whatever it
might be.
It's roughly 4,000 weeks.
And as I was working throughthat book and working through
the mentality of it, it struckme in an interesting way of time
is incredibly precious, right,like you can break it down.
Like 80 years sounds like along time, but if you start
thinking, okay, I have 4,000weeks and I've already used X

(44:39):
number of those, and you startchunking it that way, things get
a little different.
So, um, I I, when I think aboutbeing a dad want to continue to
improve my intentional naturewith how I treat time and again
like my wife has said more timesthan I can count being present

(45:02):
where my feet are and justunderstanding.
Listen, if this is the modeyou're in, if you're in dad mode
right now, the other stuff canwait.
Um, and and limit sort of themultitasking approach to things.

Speaker 3 (45:13):
Love it, man.
That's good.
I um an area that I think thispodcast has helped me is helped
me with my patients as a dad, uh, as competitive person.
That tends to be the thepositive.
Negative is, like competitivepeople are very impatient.
I was guilty of, I still amimpatient at times, but like
I've learned to like, okay,what's my, what's my outcome,
what's my end game here?

(45:33):
Why am I getting frustrated?
Is this a KC issue or is theresomething else?
And so just like slowing down alittle bit so we can go faster
in life, that's been really,really helpful and I think also
just as dad journey and I haveit's uncle rica moment coming,
because I played sports incollege.
But I have, I have theperspective of it's not my
journey, it's your journey, kids.
So yeah, yeah, walk me throughthat yeah, meaning that I think

(45:59):
as you get older with your kids,you'll see that there's going
to be parents who are wrappedaround every single, the axle of
every single thing and andthey're never going to want
their kids to fail and struggle.
But that's where we becomeourselves and our best version
of ourselves, and they're goingto be.
When Johnny gets cut from theteam, go fight the coach versus.
No, the kid didn't work.
Why did he deserve to make theteam?

(46:19):
He didn't do.
It Didn't do a fricking thing.
Should make the team.

Speaker 2 (46:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (46:22):
You know.
And so, like even yesterday,like I told you before we
started recording, you knowRyder losing in 25 holes in
match play.
Did I want him to win?
Yeah, I would have loved forhim to win, but actually my mind
quickly goes to celebrate.
But think about the growth.
Yeah, dude, you grinded for 25holes against the captain, your
senior team.
He had more pressure on him.
He didn't want to lose to asophomore.

(46:43):
Yeah, and think about therespect you just earned from him
that you didn't quit and youwere like, listen, bro, we're
going.
But again you shook hands, yourbuddies, your team, at like,
celebrating those types ofthings is because I know that
adversity I went through in lifeshaped me.
Yeah, you know, not like yeahit's interesting you bring that
up.

Speaker 2 (47:01):
I'm reading, I have been reading, the daily dad uh
ryan holiday, and uh, he's got,he's got the daily stoic too,
right.
But the daily dad, uh Ryanholiday, and uh, he's got, he's
got daily stoic too, right.
But the daily dad, I bought itcame up as an Amazon suggestion,
so it's.
It's one of those daily reads.
You know, each page has liketwo or three paragraphs and, and
that whole thought process cameup recently of it's their
journey, it's not your journey,right, like they're learning
their kids.

(47:21):
Right, like they're leavingtoys out because it's their
journey.
And and yes, it might befrustrating that you have to
clean up toys every single night, right, like, again, my kids
are three and one, right, soit's a little bit different
stage than you, right?
I don't know if your, your kids, are still leaving out toys,
but like that's their journey,though, and they're having a ton
of fun and you know there's notalways going to be little Paw
Patrol dogs laying all over thehouse.
So enjoy the journey, becauseit's going to be gone faster

(47:44):
than we know it and, and youknow the other side of it.
Going back to, you made acomment about you know, parents
getting wrapped up and you knowyour kid doesn't make the team
and going and wanting to fightthe coach and everything.
I remember.
You know another lesson that iscoming back to me from my
parents.
I remember my mom at one pointsaying you know, I'm I'm not
making the coach cookies, likewe're not going to show up and
bribe the coach with cookies andlike baked goods and stuff,

(48:06):
like we're not going to be thoseparents like if you want to
make the team, go out and makethe team right, like we're not,
we don't do that here.
And and that's also it comesback just that hard-working, I
think, just blue-collar grit, ina sense that that I have.
That's like listen, man, sureyou can go run a marathon, but
put in the work and get thereand do it right.
Like Like I'm doing two halvesin October and I have a time in

(48:28):
my mind that I want to finish in.
Might be unreachable, but ifyou know, put in the work and
give yourself a fighting chance,come start line to give a good
effort at it.
Um, but yeah, man, that's um.
I appreciate you bringing thatthought back to me.

Speaker 3 (48:44):
Yeah, you bet, dude.
If people want to learn moreabout Brad and Haley or your
guitar skills or your checkout,well, your lacrosse game.
Tell me what's the best waypeople can find you.

Speaker 2 (48:57):
Best way is going to be LinkedIn.
Linkedin look for Brad Bileyand not really active on too
much social media other thanthat.
One of the byproducts of beingin digital marketing so much is
I do it all day that I don'tactually do it for myself too
often, but I am super, superactive on LinkedIn.
I post a daily video from thepodcast.
I'm always sharing content tohelp level up individuals in

(49:19):
sales or recruiting.
So if that at all pertains toyou, we'd be a good connection,
we'd be a good conversation tohave and then from there too, if
anything that I said resonatedwell, with you, I'd love to chat
.
So shoot me a message and wecan talk.

Speaker 3 (49:31):
Cool.
We will make sure this islinked in the show notes so
everybody can easily find BradBiley, which is B-I-A-L-Y for
the people spelling at home.
If you're in the spelling beecompetition, he does make it to
the next round.
Brad, it's now time to go onwhat I call the lightning round,
which is where I ask you randomquestions I have not thought of
at all.
Your job is to answer thesequestions as quickly as you can,

(49:53):
and my job is to hopefully geta giggle out of you.

Speaker 2 (49:56):
All right.

Speaker 3 (49:57):
And by doing this I'm going to show you the effects
of taking too many hits not bonghits, but football hits in
college.

Speaker 2 (50:02):
All right, let's do it.
Are you ready?

Speaker 3 (50:05):
I think so.
Okay, true or false, you areknown as the prefontaine of
staffing false, false.
Do you know who prefontaine is?
I don't so that's why I saidfalse.
Come on, you're a runner dude.
He's like he had the fastestmile ever from orton university,
oregon.
You gotta know this stuff howfast, I don't know.
It was like.
It was like back then.
It was like I think it was thefirst sub five mile guy.
Got it way back, way back inthe time Got it.

Speaker 2 (50:28):
I don't know, that was a straight dad joke that
just went over.

Speaker 3 (50:30):
So again I'm already losing because I kind of giggled
at that one.

Speaker 2 (50:33):
That's all right.
Is that what it's supposed tobe?
Do I get to say a comma backand try to make you laugh?

Speaker 3 (50:37):
Sure, you can make a challenge no all good, I didn,
but I apologize.

Speaker 2 (50:45):
Exactly right, my friend.
I, I am not that guy.

Speaker 3 (50:48):
Okay, uh, tell me what would be one genre of music
that would surprise yourcolleagues at Haley.
You listen to country.

Speaker 2 (50:56):
Okay, yeah, I know that I come off as a country
music kind of guy, but I I'vebeen very having country music
lately.

Speaker 3 (51:02):
Break dance or line dance break poorly poorly.

Speaker 2 (51:13):
I am not a dance move , I'm big.
Oh see, this is where a videopodcast would be good.
I'm a big, just kind of standin point kind of guy when I
dance.
I'm not, I'm not a big dancer,but but you know that guy at the
wedding who's kind of justthere, just kind of, hey, my guy
, this guy over there, yeah,you're doing it.

Speaker 3 (51:25):
You know exactly what I'm talking about and so is
anybody else listening knowsexactly that move do you know
what breakdance move is timeless?
That that's always accepted,wherever you go about it?

Speaker 2 (51:35):
the roger rabbit and the running man the running man
is very, very fair game ifyou're like, and so rocket yeah,
the running man.
You could always pull out theshopping cart if you need to.
Don Don't forget to get thestuff.
You know the top of the aisle,the bottom.
Yeah, you could pull that offif you need to.

Speaker 3 (51:51):
Yep, I like that Um, if, if, um, mom and dad are
going on vacation.
Sorry kids, you're not, you're,you're staying home.
Where, where are you taking her?

Speaker 2 (51:59):
Ireland.

Speaker 3 (52:01):
Logically delicious.

Speaker 2 (52:02):
Yeah, we, um we did not honeymoon.
Um, we've we, we did not take ahoneymoon.
We've always wanted to go, Um,so it would be Ireland.

Speaker 3 (52:11):
I would love to go to Ireland on a golf trip and that
sounds fantastic.
Um, favorite comedy movie ofall time is hangover one.
Hmm, true or false, I can playStu song on the guitar, the what
do you tell I one you can playa little.
Yeah, I bet you can play onguitar.

Speaker 2 (52:31):
I was just, I was just singing that the other day.
That's so funny I knew too.
When you were on my show, wewere going back and forth with
the anchorman quotes.
I knew we were going to becomebuddies here.
Um, can you play on the guitarfor real?

Speaker 3 (52:44):
yeah, of course you can oh yeah, I can play it.
Um, if you want homework, Iwill get a, give me your.
When we get offline, I'll getyour cell.
I will text you a recording,prove it.

Speaker 2 (52:55):
And you can say god your voice sucks dude, but I
don't care I can't wait, can'twait.
Yeah, hangover one, though, isdefinitely going to be favorite
comedy.
That movie is phenomenal startto finish.

Speaker 3 (53:05):
It is good.
Um, okay, if there was to be abook run written about your life
, tell me the title.

Speaker 2 (53:12):
Um, I'm going to go.
Brad Biley, the all Americastory.

Speaker 3 (53:17):
There we go.

Speaker 2 (53:18):
Buffalo, new York, is the all America city, so that's
the first thing that came to mymind.
Okay, okay, so this, this bookthere's the big one you wanted
this.

Speaker 3 (53:26):
This book is now gaining momentum.
Yeah and uh.
It's like getting out ofcontrol, like Oprah, phil
Donahue, ricky Lake, it's.
I mean, it's blowing up pricesright there and it's given up
just everybody talking about it.
Yeah, it's nuts.
Amazon can't sell enough.
Every airport sold out, soNetflix like shit.
We better make a movie out ofthis thing.
So, Brad, you were the castingdirector.

(53:47):
I need to know who's going tostar you in this critically
acclaimed, hit new movie.
Give me Bradley Cooper Nice.

Speaker 2 (53:54):
Yeah, nice, how could it not be?

Speaker 3 (53:56):
Yeah, well, I see the resembling looks you definitely
have Bradley Cooper of staffingindustry.
I got the Good point, okay,last question.

Speaker 2 (54:09):
Tell me two words that would describe your wife
Beautiful patient.

Speaker 3 (54:12):
Boom Lighting round was complete.
Um, I giggled more of my ownjokes, which tends to happen, um
, cause I'm I have issues, uh,but this has been an honor, uh,
getting to know you better.
I'm grateful Our paths havecrossed.
I think I only come across theone and only Brad Ballard,
because of my friends at the ASgroup at the conference where I
was at there, and so thanks tothe folks at AS group for making

(54:33):
today's episode possible andthank you for every dad out
there that continues to listen.
If this episode made you think,if there's an episode that made
you like, man, that was.
That was some pretty cool stuff.
I talked about, like, leave usa comment, leave us a review.
Wherever you consume thesepodcasts or share the episode
with another dad, um, this, thispodcast, everybody is,
sometimes people at home like,oh so you're like a podcaster.

(54:55):
This is like a passion projectthat I've been doing for six
years now.
It does not generate revenue,it is just for pure joy and fun
and I do it to serve.
Uh, so, please, I ask guys toserve others.
Like, find a dad that you feellike can listen to either this
episode or another episode.
But, brad, grateful for ourtime together.
I'll make sure everything'slinked in the show notes and I

(55:16):
hope to see you at one of theseconferences that we'll be all
probably attending here in thestaffing industry here soon.

Speaker 2 (55:21):
We'll see you soon, my friend.

Speaker 3 (55:22):
All right man, Thanks for having me.