98. From Accountant to Awakener: How Nic Nierras Transformed Pain into Soul-Aligned Entrepreneurship
November 9, 2025 • 52 mins
Meet Nic Nierras, founder of the Worthy, Authentic, and Abundant Method — a framework that merges quantum consciousness, spiritual science, and somatic reprogramming to help people unlock their highest potential.
A former chartered accountant turned transformation catalyst, Nic shares how a life-altering divorce, a global pandemic, and an awakening of self-worth propelled her from the corporate world into a journey of soul-aligned entrepreneurship.
We explore what it truly means to detach self-worth from achievement, navigate the tension between control and surrender, and embrace the beauty of living life with no regrets. Nic also opens up about the importance of feminine energy, cycles, and reclaiming our worth in a world that prizes productivity over presence.
Key Themes & Takeaways
- Redefining success: How Nic’s Asian upbringing shaped her drive — and how she redefined success on her own terms.
- From corporate to consciousness: The pivotal moment that led her to leave accountancy and embrace spiritual entrepreneurship.
- The illusion of control: Letting go of rigid timelines and trusting divine timing.
- Feminine and masculine energy balance: Why burnout is often a symptom of ignoring our natural rhythms.
- Living without regrets: What it means to choose courage over comfort and purpose over predictability.
- Collapsing timelines: The quantum concept of becoming your future self now.
Memorable Quotes
“If I’m not attaining something, that doesn’t mean I’m not worth anything.” — Nic Nierras
“Our intuition is the higher intelligence that is always there to guide us — if only we take time to listen.” — Nic Nierras
Connect with Nic Nierras
- Website: https://thenicnierraswholisticlifestyle.com/
- LinkedIn: Nicolette Nierras
- Podcast: Worthy, Authentic, and Abundant
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SPEAKER_02 (00:00):
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Welcome.
Hello and welcome to anotherepisode of the Quiet Warrior
Podcast.
My guest today is Nick Nieris, avisionary transformation
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catalyst and founder of theworthy, authentic, and abundant
method, a pioneering frameworkblending quantum consciousness,
spiritual science, and somaticreprogramming to unlock embodied
wealth and fulfillment.
As a hypnotherapist and mindsetalchemist, Nick empowers
high-achieving leaders,creatives, and coaches to
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collapse timelines and rise intotheir billion-dollar identities
through deep inner work,soul-aligned business
strategies, and vibrationalself-worth recalibration.
Welcome, Nick, to the QuietWarrior Podcast.
SPEAKER_01 (01:20):
Thank you so much, Serena, for the wonderful
introduction.
It always gets to me every timepodcast hosts introduce me with
the introduction.
Because sometimes we tend tothink that we've done so much,
but yet still we're not enough.
SPEAKER_02 (01:44):
And I know there will be a few listeners nodding
as you said that.
SPEAKER_01 (02:02):
And even in those moments, maybe it is time for us
to take a seat back and reflect,oh, just be grateful that I've
actually had all this, the bodythat I'm in, the vessel that I'm
in, to just be grateful thatwe're here and we've attained so
much.
SPEAKER_00 (02:19):
Yes.
Look how far we've come.
Exactly.
So tell me, Nick, do youidentify as an introvert?
SPEAKER_01 (02:28):
And have you always been one?
I identify as an introvert now,but most of my life I wasn't, at
least in my own view, um,identify as an introvert.
Why?
Because I've always had thisvery outward nature to me, and
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people often associate me with asocial butterfly where I flutter
here and I flutter there.
And naturally I like connectingwith people, but to but as I
grew older, it made me feel likeI wanted to serve them because I
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could tune in into theirenergies.
Like whenever somebody isfeeling down, I'd pour my heart
and my soul and my time to bewith that person to the extent
of my own um boundaries.
So, and I want to say that it isnot wrong, but it is so
important for you to rememberwhen to draw the line in the
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sand.
Yeah, so being an introvert, atleast right now, I would say I'm
a selective introvert.
I'm very extroverted with myvery close friends because when
we do get around each other orhang out, it's an exchange of
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energy, right?
And I fuel them and they fuel meup.
And so it's it's intentional.
So to answer your question,extrovert, there is no right or
wrong between an extrovert andan introvert.
I think both uh both of theverts has its have its own pros
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and cons.
And for me, what works is reallytaking care of what I pour out
and what I receive.
Because I think energy is is ourcurrency right now.
SPEAKER_00 (04:38):
So that is my my take.
Thank you.
SPEAKER_02 (04:44):
I noticed that you started off your career as a
chartered accountant, and yousaid that by 28 you had achieved
all your career goals.
So I imagine you would have beenpretty ambitious at the start
and had a clear idea of whereyou were going.
So at what point did you realizethat maybe this was not the path
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you want to carry on?
SPEAKER_00 (05:10):
I love this question, and thank you for
asking.
Asian parenting.
SPEAKER_01 (05:19):
I grew up in that kind of household, so dad has
always been the my way or thehighway.
Knowledge is power, education iskey to changing your life.
I grew up as a middle class umin a middle class family in
Malaysia, and my father hassaid, okay, I want you you being
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his kids to be better off thanhow I got you into this world.
And so I'm gonna put you toschool, but then you have to put
yourself through the education.
You basically you have to strivefor the education and attain all
the grades, and his version ofsuccess is getting a good paying
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job, climbing the copper ladder,and um attaining, amassing the
wealth, the materialpossessions.
And I thought that was my ownversion of success too.
I didn't know better.
So during high school, between13 to 17, I remember, no, I
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deliberately made sure that atleast um top five in schools, at
least in my academic year, allthe way because I knew that I
had to work much more a littlebit more, or twice or three
times more than my other peersat the time that were pretty
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more that they're prettyprivileged in a sense.
So I did that, and I had my lifeplanned out.
I thought 30 was the pinnacle oflife.
30 is the point where you shouldhave kids as a woman, as a lady,
you should have kids, you shouldhave a loving husband, you
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should be subtle in terms ofyour career.
And I used to think that I couldhave it all.
Now I'm gonna come back to the Icould have it all notion.
So I planned myself, I plannedmy at least my career and my
life um up until 30.
And by 30, before 30, I had mydivorce.
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I was at when at the height ofmy career, I got that divorce,
but COVID also happened.
I did not account for COVID, andthat's when my the job that I
actually wanted to be in badlystarted dwindling down in the
sense that I no longer resonatewith the project that I was um
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seconded in.
The first two years at this jobsaw me rising the um the the
rising in the ranks, up theranks.
But after the second year, itwas like my time was up with
this false or mask that I wastrying to put on in on the way
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to my perceived success that itshould be what I wanted it to
be.
And then so that was the firsttime I said, Oh, my self-worth
is no longer attached to my ownachievements, because I've
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always been a valedictorian,I've always been an A student,
and so if I put my heart andsoul into something, that means
I'm gonna get it regardless.
Life is not linear like that,and I got humbled in the worst
way possible.
But if somebody were to tell me,Nick, have you if you had given
a chance, you're given a chanceone more time to relive those
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lives, would you do it again?
I would say yes and no, yes,because I wouldn't be half the
person I am today if I didn't gothrough that.
But no, probably I would havegone through a different set of
circumstances, I would have adifferent set of circumstances,
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but I always believed I'mexactly where I need to be.
So to answer, coming back toyour question, I made the move
from being a charteredaccountancy in the corporate
world because I wanted to seewhy I associated myself, my
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achievement to how to my valuein the world.
If I am not attaining something,therefore I'm not worth
anything.
But if you're a baby, nobodysaid that baby is not worthy of
love.
The baby poops, excuse mylanguage, the baby, you know,
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peas in his or her, you know,diapers, but we don't say, oh,
we're gonna we're gonna ignorethe baby because he or she's not
worthy of our love.
So why as adults we look intothese outwardly things, external
validations to validate ourself-worth.
So when the divorce happened,when I was 28, as when I said,
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okay, I know I could transformthis from this pain, I could
transform this pain into power.
What can I do?
So I looked up, got up, got acertification, and went into
rapid transformational therapy.
Why?
Because I started studying aboutthe human psyche, started
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studying about psychology.
And I I told myself, maybecorporate is is no longer where
I needed to be at this point.
I'm not saying no to it in thelong run because I've always
liked the business acumen of it.
But I said, I wanted to helpmyself, how can I do this by
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helping others?
So I made it my purpose, I madeit my point to serve others as
well.
And that got me into, and thatthere were a whole series of ups
and downs in between, andmiraculous events that happened
leading up to where I am now.
So that was the start of my mychange.
SPEAKER_00 (11:40):
And it's been it's my sixth year in having this
spiritual awakening.
Thank you for sharing that.
SPEAKER_02 (11:53):
You mentioned a couple of points that I think
are important for our listenersto take note of because then you
know it's something we want toreflect on too.
The idea that if I'm notattaining something, then I'm
not worth anything.
And that is very typical of theAsian upbringing, but I'm sure
it also stretches across othercultures as well, that our value
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in the world is tied to howeconomically productive and
successful we are, which meanswe have to measure that.
We have to have something toshow people, not only so that
our parents have bragging rightsas we're growing up, but also so
that we can prove if anybodywere to ask us, because it's so
much easier to say I'm anaccountant or I'm a lawyer or
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I'm an engineer, and nobody willask you anything else because
they already have certainassumptions about what that is
and the value of that, asopposed to I help people um
eliminate anxiety or sleepbetter or feel good about
themselves.
And then they might think, um,you know, how do you do that?
How do you make money from that?
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That's almost like the top twoquestions that will come up,
isn't it?
That everything has to have somekind of an economic value,
otherwise we don't know where toplace it.
Is it worthy?
Is it good enough?
Is it does it do anything?
And yet some of the mostvaluable things we can do in the
world, some of the biggestchanges we can make are at that
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fundamental spiritual level.
Not at that head level, theintellectual and the
theoretical, but where it'sdeep, where it keeps you awake
at night, where it makes youthink and overthink.
Those are the the kinds ofquestions and the problems that
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we struggle with silently and wedon't talk about.
SPEAKER_01 (13:47):
When you were asking that question, a few things
popped in my head.
Um when we're on our deathbeds,what do we actually what do we
ask?
Do we think about the money thatwe have left in the bank or do
we think about the time that wespent or the time that we did
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not spend with our loved ones?
I like to deduce because I usedto operate from my headspace,
and only recently I've startedto use my heart space.
And headspace is veryanalytical, very logical, an
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accountant accountant accountingtrain, therefore I'm trained to
think about all the risk, how tomanage risk and whatnot.
But I ask I remember askingmyself, if I were to leave the
world today, did I do a good jobof being present to my family,
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to my friends, and to thecommunity that I sort of serve?
Or was I self-centered, was Iselfish, only to attain my own
desires because I wanted to showand prove people of this is
Nicolette, this is what I'veaccumulated so much, and this is
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me.
SPEAKER_00 (15:24):
Earlier on, I thought the whole idea was to be
the performer, but after myhumbling journey, humbling event
by the universe, I startedrethinking about who I who am I?
SPEAKER_01 (15:45):
So I said to myself, if I were to strip me down to my
very the flesh and just thesoul, who am I as a person?
Did I did I call my mother as umI promised her?
Or was I really stuck in my oldnighters as a consultant,
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delaying my promises to her thatI would come back home because I
was in KL.
Now I'm I'm in I'm in myhometown.
If he if she was to leave, thenI don't want to leave with that
regret.
So I want to come back also tothe part where if I don't take
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this decision right now in fiveyears, I don't want to live with
what ifs.
So that has given me the path,but it's and both good and bad.
But again, if we come back toit, we're exactly where we're
meant to be.
So to coming back to yourquestion, if people listening to
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this and they're thinking, oh,it's easy for Nick to say
because she may have figuredthis out earlier on.
But if something is stirringwithin your soul right now, it
is worth paying attention to it.
Because I believe I'm a I'm aperson of faith, and I believe
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there's universe, and so thespirit and we're always
connecting with we're the spiritis always trying to connect with
us if only we take the time tolisten.
And in quiet and stillness iswhen we if they are the loudest.
If they don't believe that youcan carry out something that is
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planted within you, why wouldthey even give you that vision?
SPEAKER_00 (17:52):
And so I believe in this very much that if I could
think of it, I know God broughtme to it, God will bring me
through it.
SPEAKER_01 (18:06):
And it is not an easy feat, Serena, coming from a
nine to five, transitioning intoan entrepreneurship, especially
if you've been just if you'vejust been pushed.
Now I did make somepreparations, but when are we
ever ready for something big inour life?
A marriage, right?
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Having a kid, or even jumpinginto entrepreneurship.
When are we even ready?
So it's the same for me.
I got laid off last year, 2024,but a year before that, in 2023,
I started my certification.
I started the whole idea, Istarted shifting my trajectory
from the corporate intopsychology, into helping people,
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and I got acquainted by settingup my own podcast.
SPEAKER_00 (18:55):
And it's been two years in, up and down journey,
but I wouldn't trade this forthe world.
SPEAKER_02 (19:06):
That comment, I wouldn't trade this for the
world, as well as that otherreflection earlier on, where
your friends asked you, youknow, if you could go back and
change things, would you?
Is a very intriguing one.
Because I think all of us atsome point have asked ourselves
that question.
Knowing what we know now, if wecould go back in time to those
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pivotal moments, would we havemade a different decision?
Would we have taken a differentpath?
And it's fun to ponder.
It's like those stories, right?
Those stories where you canchoose your ending, choose your
own adventure.
We love that.
We love the concept of, youknow, having parallel universes,
multiple personalities.
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You know, if I could clonemyself, if I could send 10
different versions of me out,you know, what could each of us
achieve?
You know, what could each of usdo differently?
Maybe finally I would achieveall my goals because there's 10
of me to do it.
And then also you said at thesame time that you are meant to
be where you are.
You're exactly where you aremeant to be.
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So it doesn't matter.
It sounds to me like it doesn'tmatter what decision you made or
are going to make or maketomorrow, because ultimately
there is a higher purpose, thereis a higher intelligence and a
design that is guiding youthrough all this, back to where
you're meant to be, back to yourhome, your spiritual home,
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right?
So you can go through all thescenic detours on the trail.
You might even go into thewilderness for a while, but
eventually you come to thatplace where it looks familiar,
it feels like home, yourecognize it.
You realize this is right, thisis where I'm meant to be for
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now.
And that idea is something I'mstill playing with because it's
so mysterious and it's so farremoved from that black and
white, you know, theoreticalunderstanding we have that
things have to be this way, notthat way.
It's got to be this path, andthis is the right path, not any
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other path.
And so when you open your mindup like that, it's it can be
confusing to those of us whowere conditioned to think and
follow only one path.
So you've already done that verybrave work of pivoting away from
that, consciously moving awayfrom that, exploring, getting to
know yourself, figuring out whatit is you are meant to be doing,
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and doing that thing so that youhave no regrets when you look
back.
And I think living a life withno regrets is extremely
important because that's the onething we can't go back and
change what has happened before,but we can accept where we are
right now, make the best of it,set some new intentions, maybe,
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go on a different path perhaps.
But just accepting and being atpeace with what's currently
happening in our little world.
I think that's enormouslyimportant for our internal sense
of balance and harmony, becausea lot of things are so uncertain
right now and chaotic, andpeople are feeling anxious and
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they're grasping at anythingthat would give them some hope
or some feeling of security.
That's what we are looking for,isn't it?
The safety, the stability, thesecurity.
So to hear you telling yourcareer pivot story of trading
the security to come out andstart something new on your own
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without exactly knowing what itis or how to go about it and
figuring it out as you go.
I think that's a journey ofcourage.
SPEAKER_01 (22:58):
I prepped him at least a few, a good few months
before this happened.
But I kind of know there's adeep knowing within me that I
gotta do what I got to do.
And for him, he is a I thinkhe's classified as a I can
categorize him as a boomer.
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So a boomer means you accumulatethings and you I read this
somewhere (23:25):
a boomer, a boomer, an ex and um a millennial, and
then Gen Z and an alpha.
So somewhere along the lines,they secured the basically the
stability is secured, and thenthe next generation, it's about
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increasing your standard oflife, and then somewhere it's
increasing your quality of life.
So for him, I under I understandwhere he is coming from,
however, he I think in my head,and I believe in this as well,
that he made sure that thefamily is fed well, that I'm
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educated, but it is now raisingthe family upward.
It's it's treading into aterritory that is unheard of
before.
And I also want to go back to apoint you made.
People are grasping and they'reanxious because there's nowhere
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to grasp.
That that is a very human thingof us because we should and
somehow need that degree ofcontrol.
Control means we can controlcertain outcome.
Control means we by the end offirst week or second week, we
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can get an income and we cansort of figure out what to pay
and how do we go about ourlives.
And oh, next month, by thiscalculation, I can go to this
city and do my yearly orquarterly vacation.
But on the other hand, the thebecause life is a it's about
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duality, right?
I'm gonna talk about law of umthe law, the the law of duality,
hermeticism.
If you are denying the verynature of a human, the very
nature of your desire, you'redenying the very nature of being
human.
And why I'm gonna tie it back tothis.
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Being human means you areallowed and supposed to feel all
the whole range, the wholespectrum of emotions: sadness,
rage, joy, happiness, peace,sorrow, love, and ex excitement
is related to you not knowingabout what's gonna happen.
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What I'm trying to say here isif you have lived your life most
of your life at least, in a verypredictive, rigid or structured
way, I think you have earnedsome excitement, some
spontaneity, some um thrill inyour in the later part of your
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life or even right now.
If you're hearing things andsomething is if you're hearing a
podcast such as this, andsomething within your soul calls
you to do it that is out of theordinary, there must be your
higher self leading you becauseand you said it, I think we
mentioned it before, ourintuition is there, it's the
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it's the wisest, the higherintelligence that is always
there to guide us.
The human minds are there for usto survive, and during ancient
times, it's there to protect usfrom dangers, but right now we
don't have that anymore.
But our stressors are the thingssuch as um uncertainties,
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economic uncertainties,political chaos, or riot, or you
know, geopolitical tension andwhatnot.
But if you were to removeyourself out of that as well,
now I see myself as a macro anda micro.
Because at the end of the day,we are just a speck of dust, and
we're here for what 80 years,100 years, 120 years, just for a
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short while.
And who do we, depending on yourbelief, who do we come back as?
We come back as a soul, andalso, Serena, I we signed up for
our lives here on earth, to behonest.
And when you said you're stillgrappling on the idea that
you're still how do I balance?
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And the word balance even ismissed mostly, I'd say um
loosely used because you cannever achieve a balance.
Even people say work-lifebalance, or how do you balance
between your career and youryeah, your home life?
Do you really balance or becausewhen you're at work, you have to
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give 200 or 100% at work, andwhen you are at home, you give
100% to your family, to yourhusband, to your wife, and to
your kids.
But you choose, and people haveevery one of us has free will.
You choose that, and you makethe decision at that very
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moment, and that opens up a newtrajectory of your life, a whole
new decision three after thatmoment.
And I know I'm maybe all overthe place, but whoever gets this
will get this.
I want to come back to the partwhere you say what is collapsing
timelines, right?
Collapse, and then you mentionedabout parallel universes as
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well.
I toyed with the idea, but Ibelieve that idea is.
I don't know, I I'm not sureabout the statistics, but it is,
I think it is it is it ispossible and it happens.
Because if you think about itright now, whatever that we have
at this very moment, we haveprayed for it at some point.
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It's whether we accept to settleor we go and put our foot on the
pedal on the gas and then goforward.
But as human, because we'relimited by our vessel and time,
time is a construct, time isjust there for us to show that.
Oh, we evolved, but truly, weare here, but we are also in the
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past, and we are also in thefuture.
So I guess what I'm trying tosay here is if people are still
grappling with the idea ofcontrol, and I urge you, it is
not right, it is our very natureof being human, but inject some
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of that um excitement and thrillin your life.
If you can even take one stepright now, if you wanted to go
to take, if you've never hadthis dream or never had this
opportunity to book a triptomorrow to go to that place
that you wanted to go, andyou've saved already for it, for
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example, and you kept onpostponing it because oh, my dad
is not well, my kid is not well,but you know you gotta do it, go
do it now.
This is your sign.
SPEAKER_00 (31:03):
I love that.
SPEAKER_02 (31:05):
I I bet a few people will be thinking, but but but I
can't.
It's it would not be responsiblefor me to do that thing right
now.
So it's always there will beanother reason, another story,
another circumstance that needsanother piece of the puzzle
needs to fall into place.
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It has to be the perfect timing,it has to be when everything
lines up beautifully.
Finally, then I can breathe, Ican let go, I can go on my
holiday, I can go do this randomproject that I suddenly felt
drawn to.
We need a reason.
I I think we're so used tooperating from that, you know,
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what you called it, the thelogical, the rational, the
analytical.
If we can explain it and reasonit out and give you, you know,
10 good reasons and support itwith evidence and all that, then
it's good.
It shows I'm using my brain, itshows I'm being a responsible
human being.
I'm adulting, right?
But if I want to do thingsrandomly, impulsively, and just
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take off and do things just formy own pleasure, I can't.
And I find that women especiallyfind it so hard to give
themselves that permission.
We wait for someone else to giveus that permission, and even
when it is offered to us, wefeel guilty.
SPEAKER_00 (32:28):
So interesting, isn't it?
What are your thoughts?
SPEAKER_01 (32:36):
We live in a patriarchal, patriarchal world
at this point.
But if you study ancient times,matriarchal were the ones
revered and worshipped beforeuntil it was overturned by the
men.
Because if you could think aboutit, we are the ones that grows
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heck, we grow human beings inour body.
Um, they give the seed, but weactually nurture it until it
comes to full term, right?
But um right now, men are thereto provide and protect, but we
are the idea of the masculineand the feminine energies are
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distorted to the point thatwomen want to be on par with
men, and I am one of thosepeople that say, by nature, by
human design, we are notsupposed to, we are supposed to
nurture the young, but ourinnate nature is to provide and
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give love to people now.
They tribe on nature, um, on onstructure, on everything, and
everybody in each one of ushuman beings, we have masculine
and feminine energies.
And I, because I'm doing myspiritual thing, I wanted to see
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what is there truly it is notjust us here in art, and the 3D
world is just one dimension.
So I and I attach this to thisidea, I studied how the men and
the women operate.
The men operates akin to the sun24 hours, right?
(34:34):
Um, and they they thrive on onthis.
But women, and as you all know,and there's statistics done on
it as well, we are akin to themoon, we follow cycles, and
that's why we also have ourmenstruation cycle.
Men, morning, afternoon,evening, night time, and then
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they start again the same dayevery day.
But women, the first week of themonth were this we can be S the
most um accomplished person inthe household, at least, because
we're go-getters, and then thesecond week, we're like, oh, I
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feel differently in my body.
The third week, oh, it's coming,and I I can.
That is just the very nature ofus, and so coming back to your
question, man is the one toprovide and women is the one to
nurture in the house.
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But we are also asked to workright now.
Why?
Because of the economicconditions of the world,
everywhere is expensive,inflation, yes, yada, yada,
yada.
But what caused it at the end ofthe day?
I mean, in the beginning, in thefirst place.
As humans, we distorted to theidea of now if I want to bring
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in the the the thought of thethe I not idea, the question
about greed, yes, there is.
The question about um, if Icould just deduce into one, it's
just greed.
Greed for what, greed for power,greed for status, because we
know when we're powerful as ahuman being, one gender is more
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powerful than the other.
There's always that envy,there's always that resentment,
right?
So women right now areconditioned that we number one
have to fulfill have to live outour very nature, which is to
birth, but also on top of that,take on the secondary um
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occupation or role in thehousehold to provide for the
family, to support.
And women are often not notbecause I'm just a woman, but I
see this not only we're asked toperform well at work, but we're
also asked to perform 1000% than1,000% than our male
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counterparts at home.
So where does that leave us?
SPEAKER_00 (37:22):
Stress, burnout, anxious, and depressed.
SPEAKER_01 (37:27):
And at any moment we want to go and see our
girlfriends and just you know gofor brunch, we say, Oh, but my
my kid is is at home.
My kid is not my my husband isgonna go out and play golf with
his with his with his friends,and I have to take care.
(37:49):
Why couldn't you just now Ibelieve of course the most
important decision that we makein our life is our partner, and
I only knew that after I got afafter I got divorced, but again,
we are exactly where we're meantto be, right?
So now assuming that you've gonethrough um some of your life
(38:13):
stages chapters with yourcounterpart, your your your
partner of your choice, there'llbe some degree of communication,
at least.
Hey, why don't you take up orcan I take some time off and
then leave it and then leave thekids to you?
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The Hassan on the other hand,because you know it all right
everything starts from self.
So as a woman, if you don't knowwhat self-love is, what
self-worth is, then you'll bebending yourself over for these
different people in your life.
And at what expense?
Your own expense.
(38:55):
So my thoughts are you as awoman will need to know your own
worth first and foremost.
And somebody tuning to thisright now would say, Oh, I wish
I I realize, I wish I'm aware ofthis fact um years ago.
(39:19):
And uh what I'm going to say toyou, you're not late, you're
never too late to anything.
You're meant to hear this rightnow.
Because if you had known itbefore, probably some of the
decisions that you've made atthis point will not serve you
for your highest good.
So, coming back to yourquestion, women that are being
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taught or they have taken up theperception and the projection of
the world of society on them.
I urge you and call you to justlet go.
And I'm not asking you to beirresponsible, you're not
letting go completely.
I'm just asking you to let goand allow that space.
(40:07):
Make space in your life and inyourself that hey, I'm human
too.
SPEAKER_00 (40:14):
Remember your own power from the very beginning.
SPEAKER_01 (40:19):
Because how you treat yourself is how you teach
others to treat you, and how yourespect yourself is how you
treat others to respect you aswell.
SPEAKER_00 (40:31):
So that is my takeaway.
I like how you started off withthe macro perspective.
SPEAKER_02 (40:41):
And that is setting being aware that each person
carries with them the context ofthe time they were born into,
what that represents in history,and what that means.
For instance, somebody who haswas born during, say, the Great
Depression or has been through aworld war has a certain
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perspective of life that theythen pass on to their children
and grandchildren.
And so each of us, in a sense,is a byproduct of our history
and our ancestors' history.
And so where we are placed inhistory, while that is divinely
decided, and there is a purposefor it, but it also gives us
(41:25):
that larger perspective torealize that we are shaped by
our times.
But at the same time, thecounter to that is that we also
have free will, like you said,and the ability, the choice, the
responsibility to then say, Howbest do I want to live this one
(41:46):
short life, the 80 years, 100years that I've been given?
What am I going to do with thistime so that I live without
regrets?
And when you contrast it, youknow, the matriarchal versus the
patriarchal way of society, ofliving, of community, how that
shows up in our everydaydecisions, in families, in the
things we do for our children,say to our children, and then
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pass on to our children, andthen they look back and say, Oh,
I had this kind of a parent, youknow, this is how I grew up.
And that becomes theirconditioning.
So we need to be then veryintentional and very conscious
in what exactly we are passingon.
What is this legacy we arehanding to the next generation?
And how intentional am I beingin passing on these values?
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Are they the values that Iunconsciously absorbed?
Are they values that I'vethought through and filtered
carefully for myself based onwhat my own values are now?
And am I also making space formy children to walk a different
path?
Because they will have their ownpurpose, which is different from
mine, and each of us has tofigure out what our own divine
(42:54):
purpose is.
SPEAKER_00 (42:56):
That's right.
Yeah, that's right.
I mean, you summarized itperfectly exactly, um, Serena.
SPEAKER_01 (43:05):
And it is our responsibility, at least for me,
because we're given this higherintelligence, right?
And the brain that we use tosurvive during ancient times and
we develop and evolve to thinkabout why things are done,
(43:27):
things are done the way theyare, but also if you contrast it
with what we have right now,because I don't know if I I I'm
not sure of this effect.
What was this effect?
There there's there's a tthere's a test study on if you
(43:48):
see, if you perceive a certainthing this way, I don't know why
it's escaped my brain right now.
If you see, if you focus on onearea right now, and if you focus
a few seconds after that, youfocus on a different area.
Is that did that and and if yousee there's a how would I say
(44:12):
this?
There's a point in one area, andthen you look the other way, is
that one area that you look isactually present, or was it a
perception of your mind?
So if you could look at that,and it's it's physics, I think
it's physics.
Yeah, they did they did thistest, it was a slither test or
(44:35):
something.
If you could look at that andapply it into your life, because
everything again, everything isenergy in life, right?
And you can change it, but webecause everything that we see
right now, it is all made fromhuman mental um imagination, the
fan that I have in front of me,the iPad that I'm on, the
(44:58):
microphone that I'm holding, itwas birthed through through the
mind.
And so if the mind is sopowerful and it could change the
trajectory of your life, whatwould happen if you could use
that mind and think aboutsomething that you actually
want?
But the problem is we don't knowwhat we want sometimes.
(45:21):
We don't know what we don'tknow.
There's this pie, right?
A pie chart of life.
We only know at least 3%.
There's this there's I'm I'm Imight be butchering the the
percentage, but one percent iswhat we know, one percent is
what we know we don't know, andthe whole other big the biggest
chunk of the pie is we don'tknow what we don't know, and
(45:45):
knowing that we don't know whatwe don't know humbles you in the
way that hey, there is a biggerorder outside of me and a higher
order outside of me that isorchestrating all of this, but
that order is also giving youfree will for you to change and
(46:05):
replicate what you want in yourlife, so it is truly up to you.
So, whatever, whichever pointyou you are, wherever that you
are in your life right now,that's why people say you can
change it, you can.
And if you believe, I know HenryFord said it right.
50% of the time when you saidyou can't, you can, you can.
(46:28):
50% of the time you said youcannot, you will not.
So truly, truly, it is up toyou.
It's the act of all of this isself-actualization and being
very aware and being veryconscious.
SPEAKER_02 (46:44):
I think another way of saying that would be whether
you think you can or you can't,you are right.
SPEAKER_01 (46:49):
Yes, yes, that one.
That is the brain.
SPEAKER_02 (46:54):
And also, I think you were referring to that
quantum physics experiment, thedouble slit double slit, yes,
the split.
Double slit experiment, yes.
Yes, so the idea of does thatthing that I observed get
affected because I'm observingit?
And if I'm not observing it, andwhat is actually happening?
(47:16):
Is it behaving differently?
But I can't know because I'm notobserving it.
So it has to be measured.
Somebody has to, somebody orsomething has to be watching it
all the time to know how it'sactually behaving.
SPEAKER_01 (47:28):
Exactly.
SPEAKER_02 (47:29):
So interesting.
SPEAKER_01 (47:30):
Interesting, right?
SPEAKER_02 (47:32):
Yeah, it tickles the mind.
It's like you can't stop.
Am I supposed to be looking atit all the time?
You know, I will not look at itright now, but what is it doing
when I'm not looking at it?
SPEAKER_01 (47:41):
Yeah, and and and you expand it into life, right?
This is the direction that youtake.
Like you're at a crossroads, youare taking part B, but then you
cannot help but think aboutwhat's happening with path A.
But you've made the decision togo to Path B.
But truly, is it really a wrongpath or is it the right path?
(48:04):
You're exactly where you'remeant to be.
SPEAKER_00 (48:06):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (48:07):
So make the decision, whatever decision that
you make, yeah, that you thinkof that is for your highest
good, make it.
SPEAKER_02 (48:17):
I think that's a good way to sum up.
We can't know which is the rightpath.
Maybe there are no right paths,maybe it's just the road less
traveled.
It's just the one that we're notfamiliar with, and that's why we
are fearful of it.
But it could also be the paththat leads to greater freedom,
the path that leads toadventure, the path that leads
to something beyond our currentcircumstances, something we will
(48:40):
be uh very glad for, that ourfuture self will thank us for,
for having the courage to try.
Because that circles back to youknow what what we will be
thinking about on the deathbed.
Maybe we want to be thinking,wow, I am so blessed.
I have such a wonderful life.
I'm so grateful for all thepeople that love me and the
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people that I love.
I'm so grateful I tried that Ihad the courage to do all those
weird, wonderful, crazy thingswhen I was younger, and I have
no regrets, and I'm ready to go.
SPEAKER_00 (49:11):
Yes.
Yeah.
So, what's the best way, Nick,for people to contact you and
work with you?
SPEAKER_01 (49:20):
Okay.
I am available on all socialmedia, but I hang around most on
LinkedIn.
My nick, my full name, NicolaJaneuras.
But if you want to know moreabout me and my story, you can
find me at www.denick Nieras,holisticlifestyle.com.
There's a w in front of the H.
(49:42):
So I try my best in the websiteto make it as pack as I could.
But truly, if you go to thelanding page, there's a program,
my approach, worthy, authentic,and abundant.
And then the next page would bemy podcasts, my media
appearances on all otherpodcasts, as well as
testimonials, and my whole arrayof offerings.
(50:05):
So, people and I do energyreading as well.
Um, I saw one message on YouTubeyesterday, and I take it as a
sign or as a message from thedivine.
Stop putting yourself in a box.
If you know that you are capableof doing a few different things,
(50:27):
stop labeling yourself to bejust one thing.
Explore.
I mean, the reason why God gaveyou that is for you to live your
life fully through all thosegifts and all those talents.
Now these does not have these umtalents, they do not have to be
monetized.
You can just enjoy them duringyour free time or with your
(50:50):
friends.
So it doesn't have to bemonetary at the end of the day.
Sometimes you just needsometimes you just need to do
them to come back to yourself.
SPEAKER_02 (51:03):
And coming from an ex-accountant who's all about
numbers, I think that's abeautiful and very serendipitous
way to end this interview.
So thank you so much, NicoletteNieras, for sharing your time
and your wisdom with us today.
SPEAKER_01 (51:18):
Serena, this has been.
I think this was divinelyorchestrated too.
And I want to say thank you andI want to acknowledge you for
the work that you're doing forbecoming for being the voice for
all those quiet warriors outthere.
SPEAKER_00 (51:33):
Thank you.
SPEAKER_02 (51:35):
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Hi, I'm Serena Doe.
If you're used to hearing thatintroverts are shy, anxious,
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Discover what's fun, unique, andpowerful about being an
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Anytime you want, in more waysthan you imagined possible.
Welcome.
Hello and welcome to anotherepisode of the Quiet Warrior
Podcast.
My guest today is Nick Nieris, avisionary transformation
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catalyst and founder of theworthy, authentic, and abundant
method, a pioneering frameworkblending quantum consciousness,
spiritual science, and somaticreprogramming to unlock embodied
wealth and fulfillment.
As a hypnotherapist and mindsetalchemist, Nick empowers
high-achieving leaders,creatives, and coaches to
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collapse timelines and rise intotheir billion-dollar identities
through deep inner work,soul-aligned business
strategies, and vibrationalself-worth recalibration.
Welcome, Nick, to the QuietWarrior Podcast.
SPEAKER_01 (01:20):
Thank you so much, Serena, for the wonderful
introduction.
It always gets to me every timepodcast hosts introduce me with
the introduction.
Because sometimes we tend tothink that we've done so much,
but yet still we're not enough.
SPEAKER_02 (01:44):
And I know there will be a few listeners nodding
as you said that.
SPEAKER_01 (02:02):
And even in those moments, maybe it is time for us
to take a seat back and reflect,oh, just be grateful that I've
actually had all this, the bodythat I'm in, the vessel that I'm
in, to just be grateful thatwe're here and we've attained so
much.
SPEAKER_00 (02:19):
Yes.
Look how far we've come.
Exactly.
So tell me, Nick, do youidentify as an introvert?
SPEAKER_01 (02:28):
And have you always been one?
I identify as an introvert now,but most of my life I wasn't, at
least in my own view, um,identify as an introvert.
Why?
Because I've always had thisvery outward nature to me, and
(02:50):
people often associate me with asocial butterfly where I flutter
here and I flutter there.
And naturally I like connectingwith people, but to but as I
grew older, it made me feel likeI wanted to serve them because I
(03:15):
could tune in into theirenergies.
Like whenever somebody isfeeling down, I'd pour my heart
and my soul and my time to bewith that person to the extent
of my own um boundaries.
So, and I want to say that it isnot wrong, but it is so
important for you to rememberwhen to draw the line in the
(03:38):
sand.
Yeah, so being an introvert, atleast right now, I would say I'm
a selective introvert.
I'm very extroverted with myvery close friends because when
we do get around each other orhang out, it's an exchange of
(03:59):
energy, right?
And I fuel them and they fuel meup.
And so it's it's intentional.
So to answer your question,extrovert, there is no right or
wrong between an extrovert andan introvert.
I think both uh both of theverts has its have its own pros
(04:21):
and cons.
And for me, what works is reallytaking care of what I pour out
and what I receive.
Because I think energy is is ourcurrency right now.
SPEAKER_00 (04:38):
So that is my my take.
Thank you.
SPEAKER_02 (04:44):
I noticed that you started off your career as a
chartered accountant, and yousaid that by 28 you had achieved
all your career goals.
So I imagine you would have beenpretty ambitious at the start
and had a clear idea of whereyou were going.
So at what point did you realizethat maybe this was not the path
(05:06):
you want to carry on?
SPEAKER_00 (05:10):
I love this question, and thank you for
asking.
Asian parenting.
SPEAKER_01 (05:19):
I grew up in that kind of household, so dad has
always been the my way or thehighway.
Knowledge is power, education iskey to changing your life.
I grew up as a middle class umin a middle class family in
Malaysia, and my father hassaid, okay, I want you you being
(05:46):
his kids to be better off thanhow I got you into this world.
And so I'm gonna put you toschool, but then you have to put
yourself through the education.
You basically you have to strivefor the education and attain all
the grades, and his version ofsuccess is getting a good paying
(06:11):
job, climbing the copper ladder,and um attaining, amassing the
wealth, the materialpossessions.
And I thought that was my ownversion of success too.
I didn't know better.
So during high school, between13 to 17, I remember, no, I
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deliberately made sure that atleast um top five in schools, at
least in my academic year, allthe way because I knew that I
had to work much more a littlebit more, or twice or three
times more than my other peersat the time that were pretty
(06:54):
more that they're prettyprivileged in a sense.
So I did that, and I had my lifeplanned out.
I thought 30 was the pinnacle oflife.
30 is the point where you shouldhave kids as a woman, as a lady,
you should have kids, you shouldhave a loving husband, you
(07:15):
should be subtle in terms ofyour career.
And I used to think that I couldhave it all.
Now I'm gonna come back to the Icould have it all notion.
So I planned myself, I plannedmy at least my career and my
life um up until 30.
And by 30, before 30, I had mydivorce.
(07:39):
I was at when at the height ofmy career, I got that divorce,
but COVID also happened.
I did not account for COVID, andthat's when my the job that I
actually wanted to be in badlystarted dwindling down in the
sense that I no longer resonatewith the project that I was um
(08:03):
seconded in.
The first two years at this jobsaw me rising the um the the
rising in the ranks, up theranks.
But after the second year, itwas like my time was up with
this false or mask that I wastrying to put on in on the way
(08:25):
to my perceived success that itshould be what I wanted it to
be.
And then so that was the firsttime I said, Oh, my self-worth
is no longer attached to my ownachievements, because I've
(08:47):
always been a valedictorian,I've always been an A student,
and so if I put my heart andsoul into something, that means
I'm gonna get it regardless.
Life is not linear like that,and I got humbled in the worst
way possible.
But if somebody were to tell me,Nick, have you if you had given
a chance, you're given a chanceone more time to relive those
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lives, would you do it again?
I would say yes and no, yes,because I wouldn't be half the
person I am today if I didn't gothrough that.
But no, probably I would havegone through a different set of
circumstances, I would have adifferent set of circumstances,
(09:30):
but I always believed I'mexactly where I need to be.
So to answer, coming back toyour question, I made the move
from being a charteredaccountancy in the corporate
world because I wanted to seewhy I associated myself, my
(09:52):
achievement to how to my valuein the world.
If I am not attaining something,therefore I'm not worth
anything.
But if you're a baby, nobodysaid that baby is not worthy of
love.
The baby poops, excuse mylanguage, the baby, you know,
(10:16):
peas in his or her, you know,diapers, but we don't say, oh,
we're gonna we're gonna ignorethe baby because he or she's not
worthy of our love.
So why as adults we look intothese outwardly things, external
validations to validate ourself-worth.
So when the divorce happened,when I was 28, as when I said,
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okay, I know I could transformthis from this pain, I could
transform this pain into power.
What can I do?
So I looked up, got up, got acertification, and went into
rapid transformational therapy.
Why?
Because I started studying aboutthe human psyche, started
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studying about psychology.
And I I told myself, maybecorporate is is no longer where
I needed to be at this point.
I'm not saying no to it in thelong run because I've always
liked the business acumen of it.
But I said, I wanted to helpmyself, how can I do this by
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helping others?
So I made it my purpose, I madeit my point to serve others as
well.
And that got me into, and thatthere were a whole series of ups
and downs in between, andmiraculous events that happened
leading up to where I am now.
So that was the start of my mychange.
SPEAKER_00 (11:40):
And it's been it's my sixth year in having this
spiritual awakening.
Thank you for sharing that.
SPEAKER_02 (11:53):
You mentioned a couple of points that I think
are important for our listenersto take note of because then you
know it's something we want toreflect on too.
The idea that if I'm notattaining something, then I'm
not worth anything.
And that is very typical of theAsian upbringing, but I'm sure
it also stretches across othercultures as well, that our value
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in the world is tied to howeconomically productive and
successful we are, which meanswe have to measure that.
We have to have something toshow people, not only so that
our parents have bragging rightsas we're growing up, but also so
that we can prove if anybodywere to ask us, because it's so
much easier to say I'm anaccountant or I'm a lawyer or
(12:39):
I'm an engineer, and nobody willask you anything else because
they already have certainassumptions about what that is
and the value of that, asopposed to I help people um
eliminate anxiety or sleepbetter or feel good about
themselves.
And then they might think, um,you know, how do you do that?
How do you make money from that?
(13:00):
That's almost like the top twoquestions that will come up,
isn't it?
That everything has to have somekind of an economic value,
otherwise we don't know where toplace it.
Is it worthy?
Is it good enough?
Is it does it do anything?
And yet some of the mostvaluable things we can do in the
world, some of the biggestchanges we can make are at that
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fundamental spiritual level.
Not at that head level, theintellectual and the
theoretical, but where it'sdeep, where it keeps you awake
at night, where it makes youthink and overthink.
Those are the the kinds ofquestions and the problems that
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we struggle with silently and wedon't talk about.
SPEAKER_01 (13:47):
When you were asking that question, a few things
popped in my head.
Um when we're on our deathbeds,what do we actually what do we
ask?
Do we think about the money thatwe have left in the bank or do
we think about the time that wespent or the time that we did
(14:10):
not spend with our loved ones?
I like to deduce because I usedto operate from my headspace,
and only recently I've startedto use my heart space.
And headspace is veryanalytical, very logical, an
(14:32):
accountant accountant accountingtrain, therefore I'm trained to
think about all the risk, how tomanage risk and whatnot.
But I ask I remember askingmyself, if I were to leave the
world today, did I do a good jobof being present to my family,
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to my friends, and to thecommunity that I sort of serve?
Or was I self-centered, was Iselfish, only to attain my own
desires because I wanted to showand prove people of this is
Nicolette, this is what I'veaccumulated so much, and this is
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me.
SPEAKER_00 (15:24):
Earlier on, I thought the whole idea was to be
the performer, but after myhumbling journey, humbling event
by the universe, I startedrethinking about who I who am I?
SPEAKER_01 (15:45):
So I said to myself, if I were to strip me down to my
very the flesh and just thesoul, who am I as a person?
Did I did I call my mother as umI promised her?
Or was I really stuck in my oldnighters as a consultant,
(16:12):
delaying my promises to her thatI would come back home because I
was in KL.
Now I'm I'm in I'm in myhometown.
If he if she was to leave, thenI don't want to leave with that
regret.
So I want to come back also tothe part where if I don't take
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this decision right now in fiveyears, I don't want to live with
what ifs.
So that has given me the path,but it's and both good and bad.
But again, if we come back toit, we're exactly where we're
meant to be.
So to coming back to yourquestion, if people listening to
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this and they're thinking, oh,it's easy for Nick to say
because she may have figuredthis out earlier on.
But if something is stirringwithin your soul right now, it
is worth paying attention to it.
Because I believe I'm a I'm aperson of faith, and I believe
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there's universe, and so thespirit and we're always
connecting with we're the spiritis always trying to connect with
us if only we take the time tolisten.
And in quiet and stillness iswhen we if they are the loudest.
If they don't believe that youcan carry out something that is
(17:46):
planted within you, why wouldthey even give you that vision?
SPEAKER_00 (17:52):
And so I believe in this very much that if I could
think of it, I know God broughtme to it, God will bring me
through it.
SPEAKER_01 (18:06):
And it is not an easy feat, Serena, coming from a
nine to five, transitioning intoan entrepreneurship, especially
if you've been just if you'vejust been pushed.
Now I did make somepreparations, but when are we
ever ready for something big inour life?
A marriage, right?
(18:28):
Having a kid, or even jumpinginto entrepreneurship.
When are we even ready?
So it's the same for me.
I got laid off last year, 2024,but a year before that, in 2023,
I started my certification.
I started the whole idea, Istarted shifting my trajectory
from the corporate intopsychology, into helping people,
(18:51):
and I got acquainted by settingup my own podcast.
SPEAKER_00 (18:55):
And it's been two years in, up and down journey,
but I wouldn't trade this forthe world.
SPEAKER_02 (19:06):
That comment, I wouldn't trade this for the
world, as well as that otherreflection earlier on, where
your friends asked you, youknow, if you could go back and
change things, would you?
Is a very intriguing one.
Because I think all of us atsome point have asked ourselves
that question.
Knowing what we know now, if wecould go back in time to those
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pivotal moments, would we havemade a different decision?
Would we have taken a differentpath?
And it's fun to ponder.
It's like those stories, right?
Those stories where you canchoose your ending, choose your
own adventure.
We love that.
We love the concept of, youknow, having parallel universes,
multiple personalities.
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You know, if I could clonemyself, if I could send 10
different versions of me out,you know, what could each of us
achieve?
You know, what could each of usdo differently?
Maybe finally I would achieveall my goals because there's 10
of me to do it.
And then also you said at thesame time that you are meant to
be where you are.
You're exactly where you aremeant to be.
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So it doesn't matter.
It sounds to me like it doesn'tmatter what decision you made or
are going to make or maketomorrow, because ultimately
there is a higher purpose, thereis a higher intelligence and a
design that is guiding youthrough all this, back to where
you're meant to be, back to yourhome, your spiritual home,
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right?
So you can go through all thescenic detours on the trail.
You might even go into thewilderness for a while, but
eventually you come to thatplace where it looks familiar,
it feels like home, yourecognize it.
You realize this is right, thisis where I'm meant to be for
(20:53):
now.
And that idea is something I'mstill playing with because it's
so mysterious and it's so farremoved from that black and
white, you know, theoreticalunderstanding we have that
things have to be this way, notthat way.
It's got to be this path, andthis is the right path, not any
(21:14):
other path.
And so when you open your mindup like that, it's it can be
confusing to those of us whowere conditioned to think and
follow only one path.
So you've already done that verybrave work of pivoting away from
that, consciously moving awayfrom that, exploring, getting to
know yourself, figuring out whatit is you are meant to be doing,
(21:36):
and doing that thing so that youhave no regrets when you look
back.
And I think living a life withno regrets is extremely
important because that's the onething we can't go back and
change what has happened before,but we can accept where we are
right now, make the best of it,set some new intentions, maybe,
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go on a different path perhaps.
But just accepting and being atpeace with what's currently
happening in our little world.
I think that's enormouslyimportant for our internal sense
of balance and harmony, becausea lot of things are so uncertain
right now and chaotic, andpeople are feeling anxious and
(22:23):
they're grasping at anythingthat would give them some hope
or some feeling of security.
That's what we are looking for,isn't it?
The safety, the stability, thesecurity.
So to hear you telling yourcareer pivot story of trading
the security to come out andstart something new on your own
(22:44):
without exactly knowing what itis or how to go about it and
figuring it out as you go.
I think that's a journey ofcourage.
SPEAKER_01 (22:58):
I prepped him at least a few, a good few months
before this happened.
But I kind of know there's adeep knowing within me that I
gotta do what I got to do.
And for him, he is a I thinkhe's classified as a I can
categorize him as a boomer.
(23:19):
So a boomer means you accumulatethings and you I read this
somewhere (23:25):
a boomer, a boomer, an ex and um a millennial, and
then Gen Z and an alpha.
So somewhere along the lines,they secured the basically the
stability is secured, and thenthe next generation, it's about
(23:46):
increasing your standard oflife, and then somewhere it's
increasing your quality of life.
So for him, I under I understandwhere he is coming from,
however, he I think in my head,and I believe in this as well,
that he made sure that thefamily is fed well, that I'm
(24:10):
educated, but it is now raisingthe family upward.
It's it's treading into aterritory that is unheard of
before.
And I also want to go back to apoint you made.
People are grasping and they'reanxious because there's nowhere
(24:33):
to grasp.
That that is a very human thingof us because we should and
somehow need that degree ofcontrol.
Control means we can controlcertain outcome.
Control means we by the end offirst week or second week, we
(24:56):
can get an income and we cansort of figure out what to pay
and how do we go about ourlives.
And oh, next month, by thiscalculation, I can go to this
city and do my yearly orquarterly vacation.
But on the other hand, the thebecause life is a it's about
(25:22):
duality, right?
I'm gonna talk about law of umthe law, the the law of duality,
hermeticism.
If you are denying the verynature of a human, the very
nature of your desire, you'redenying the very nature of being
human.
And why I'm gonna tie it back tothis.
(25:45):
Being human means you areallowed and supposed to feel all
the whole range, the wholespectrum of emotions: sadness,
rage, joy, happiness, peace,sorrow, love, and ex excitement
is related to you not knowingabout what's gonna happen.
(26:12):
What I'm trying to say here isif you have lived your life most
of your life at least, in a verypredictive, rigid or structured
way, I think you have earnedsome excitement, some
spontaneity, some um thrill inyour in the later part of your
(26:38):
life or even right now.
If you're hearing things andsomething is if you're hearing a
podcast such as this, andsomething within your soul calls
you to do it that is out of theordinary, there must be your
higher self leading you becauseand you said it, I think we
mentioned it before, ourintuition is there, it's the
(27:00):
it's the wisest, the higherintelligence that is always
there to guide us.
The human minds are there for usto survive, and during ancient
times, it's there to protect usfrom dangers, but right now we
don't have that anymore.
But our stressors are the thingssuch as um uncertainties,
(27:28):
economic uncertainties,political chaos, or riot, or you
know, geopolitical tension andwhatnot.
But if you were to removeyourself out of that as well,
now I see myself as a macro anda micro.
Because at the end of the day,we are just a speck of dust, and
we're here for what 80 years,100 years, 120 years, just for a
(27:52):
short while.
And who do we, depending on yourbelief, who do we come back as?
We come back as a soul, andalso, Serena, I we signed up for
our lives here on earth, to behonest.
And when you said you're stillgrappling on the idea that
you're still how do I balance?
(28:15):
And the word balance even ismissed mostly, I'd say um
loosely used because you cannever achieve a balance.
Even people say work-lifebalance, or how do you balance
between your career and youryeah, your home life?
Do you really balance or becausewhen you're at work, you have to
(28:37):
give 200 or 100% at work, andwhen you are at home, you give
100% to your family, to yourhusband, to your wife, and to
your kids.
But you choose, and people haveevery one of us has free will.
You choose that, and you makethe decision at that very
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moment, and that opens up a newtrajectory of your life, a whole
new decision three after thatmoment.
And I know I'm maybe all overthe place, but whoever gets this
will get this.
I want to come back to the partwhere you say what is collapsing
timelines, right?
Collapse, and then you mentionedabout parallel universes as
(29:19):
well.
I toyed with the idea, but Ibelieve that idea is.
I don't know, I I'm not sureabout the statistics, but it is,
I think it is it is it ispossible and it happens.
Because if you think about itright now, whatever that we have
at this very moment, we haveprayed for it at some point.
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It's whether we accept to settleor we go and put our foot on the
pedal on the gas and then goforward.
But as human, because we'relimited by our vessel and time,
time is a construct, time isjust there for us to show that.
Oh, we evolved, but truly, weare here, but we are also in the
(30:06):
past, and we are also in thefuture.
So I guess what I'm trying tosay here is if people are still
grappling with the idea ofcontrol, and I urge you, it is
not right, it is our very natureof being human, but inject some
(30:30):
of that um excitement and thrillin your life.
If you can even take one stepright now, if you wanted to go
to take, if you've never hadthis dream or never had this
opportunity to book a triptomorrow to go to that place
that you wanted to go, andyou've saved already for it, for
(30:51):
example, and you kept onpostponing it because oh, my dad
is not well, my kid is not well,but you know you gotta do it, go
do it now.
This is your sign.
SPEAKER_00 (31:03):
I love that.
SPEAKER_02 (31:05):
I I bet a few people will be thinking, but but but I
can't.
It's it would not be responsiblefor me to do that thing right
now.
So it's always there will beanother reason, another story,
another circumstance that needsanother piece of the puzzle
needs to fall into place.
(31:27):
It has to be the perfect timing,it has to be when everything
lines up beautifully.
Finally, then I can breathe, Ican let go, I can go on my
holiday, I can go do this randomproject that I suddenly felt
drawn to.
We need a reason.
I I think we're so used tooperating from that, you know,
(31:48):
what you called it, the thelogical, the rational, the
analytical.
If we can explain it and reasonit out and give you, you know,
10 good reasons and support itwith evidence and all that, then
it's good.
It shows I'm using my brain, itshows I'm being a responsible
human being.
I'm adulting, right?
But if I want to do thingsrandomly, impulsively, and just
(32:10):
take off and do things just formy own pleasure, I can't.
And I find that women especiallyfind it so hard to give
themselves that permission.
We wait for someone else to giveus that permission, and even
when it is offered to us, wefeel guilty.
SPEAKER_00 (32:28):
So interesting, isn't it?
What are your thoughts?
SPEAKER_01 (32:36):
We live in a patriarchal, patriarchal world
at this point.
But if you study ancient times,matriarchal were the ones
revered and worshipped beforeuntil it was overturned by the
men.
Because if you could think aboutit, we are the ones that grows
(33:00):
heck, we grow human beings inour body.
Um, they give the seed, but weactually nurture it until it
comes to full term, right?
But um right now, men are thereto provide and protect, but we
are the idea of the masculineand the feminine energies are
(33:26):
distorted to the point thatwomen want to be on par with
men, and I am one of thosepeople that say, by nature, by
human design, we are notsupposed to, we are supposed to
nurture the young, but ourinnate nature is to provide and
(33:48):
give love to people now.
They tribe on nature, um, on onstructure, on everything, and
everybody in each one of ushuman beings, we have masculine
and feminine energies.
And I, because I'm doing myspiritual thing, I wanted to see
(34:10):
what is there truly it is notjust us here in art, and the 3D
world is just one dimension.
So I and I attach this to thisidea, I studied how the men and
the women operate.
The men operates akin to the sun24 hours, right?
(34:34):
Um, and they they thrive on onthis.
But women, and as you all know,and there's statistics done on
it as well, we are akin to themoon, we follow cycles, and
that's why we also have ourmenstruation cycle.
Men, morning, afternoon,evening, night time, and then
(34:55):
they start again the same dayevery day.
But women, the first week of themonth were this we can be S the
most um accomplished person inthe household, at least, because
we're go-getters, and then thesecond week, we're like, oh, I
(35:16):
feel differently in my body.
The third week, oh, it's coming,and I I can.
That is just the very nature ofus, and so coming back to your
question, man is the one toprovide and women is the one to
nurture in the house.
(35:37):
But we are also asked to workright now.
Why?
Because of the economicconditions of the world,
everywhere is expensive,inflation, yes, yada, yada,
yada.
But what caused it at the end ofthe day?
I mean, in the beginning, in thefirst place.
As humans, we distorted to theidea of now if I want to bring
(36:00):
in the the the thought of thethe I not idea, the question
about greed, yes, there is.
The question about um, if Icould just deduce into one, it's
just greed.
Greed for what, greed for power,greed for status, because we
know when we're powerful as ahuman being, one gender is more
(36:24):
powerful than the other.
There's always that envy,there's always that resentment,
right?
So women right now areconditioned that we number one
have to fulfill have to live outour very nature, which is to
birth, but also on top of that,take on the secondary um
(36:48):
occupation or role in thehousehold to provide for the
family, to support.
And women are often not notbecause I'm just a woman, but I
see this not only we're asked toperform well at work, but we're
also asked to perform 1000% than1,000% than our male
(37:16):
counterparts at home.
So where does that leave us?
SPEAKER_00 (37:22):
Stress, burnout, anxious, and depressed.
SPEAKER_01 (37:27):
And at any moment we want to go and see our
girlfriends and just you know gofor brunch, we say, Oh, but my
my kid is is at home.
My kid is not my my husband isgonna go out and play golf with
his with his with his friends,and I have to take care.
(37:49):
Why couldn't you just now Ibelieve of course the most
important decision that we makein our life is our partner, and
I only knew that after I got afafter I got divorced, but again,
we are exactly where we're meantto be, right?
So now assuming that you've gonethrough um some of your life
(38:13):
stages chapters with yourcounterpart, your your your
partner of your choice, there'llbe some degree of communication,
at least.
Hey, why don't you take up orcan I take some time off and
then leave it and then leave thekids to you?
(38:33):
The Hassan on the other hand,because you know it all right
everything starts from self.
So as a woman, if you don't knowwhat self-love is, what
self-worth is, then you'll bebending yourself over for these
different people in your life.
And at what expense?
Your own expense.
(38:55):
So my thoughts are you as awoman will need to know your own
worth first and foremost.
And somebody tuning to thisright now would say, Oh, I wish
I I realize, I wish I'm aware ofthis fact um years ago.
(39:19):
And uh what I'm going to say toyou, you're not late, you're
never too late to anything.
You're meant to hear this rightnow.
Because if you had known itbefore, probably some of the
decisions that you've made atthis point will not serve you
for your highest good.
So, coming back to yourquestion, women that are being
(39:45):
taught or they have taken up theperception and the projection of
the world of society on them.
I urge you and call you to justlet go.
And I'm not asking you to beirresponsible, you're not
letting go completely.
I'm just asking you to let goand allow that space.
(40:07):
Make space in your life and inyourself that hey, I'm human
too.
SPEAKER_00 (40:14):
Remember your own power from the very beginning.
SPEAKER_01 (40:19):
Because how you treat yourself is how you teach
others to treat you, and how yourespect yourself is how you
treat others to respect you aswell.
SPEAKER_00 (40:31):
So that is my takeaway.
I like how you started off withthe macro perspective.
SPEAKER_02 (40:41):
And that is setting being aware that each person
carries with them the context ofthe time they were born into,
what that represents in history,and what that means.
For instance, somebody who haswas born during, say, the Great
Depression or has been through aworld war has a certain
(41:04):
perspective of life that theythen pass on to their children
and grandchildren.
And so each of us, in a sense,is a byproduct of our history
and our ancestors' history.
And so where we are placed inhistory, while that is divinely
decided, and there is a purposefor it, but it also gives us
(41:25):
that larger perspective torealize that we are shaped by
our times.
But at the same time, thecounter to that is that we also
have free will, like you said,and the ability, the choice, the
responsibility to then say, Howbest do I want to live this one
(41:46):
short life, the 80 years, 100years that I've been given?
What am I going to do with thistime so that I live without
regrets?
And when you contrast it, youknow, the matriarchal versus the
patriarchal way of society, ofliving, of community, how that
shows up in our everydaydecisions, in families, in the
things we do for our children,say to our children, and then
(42:08):
pass on to our children, andthen they look back and say, Oh,
I had this kind of a parent, youknow, this is how I grew up.
And that becomes theirconditioning.
So we need to be then veryintentional and very conscious
in what exactly we are passingon.
What is this legacy we arehanding to the next generation?
And how intentional am I beingin passing on these values?
(42:33):
Are they the values that Iunconsciously absorbed?
Are they values that I'vethought through and filtered
carefully for myself based onwhat my own values are now?
And am I also making space formy children to walk a different
path?
Because they will have their ownpurpose, which is different from
mine, and each of us has tofigure out what our own divine
(42:54):
purpose is.
SPEAKER_00 (42:56):
That's right.
Yeah, that's right.
I mean, you summarized itperfectly exactly, um, Serena.
SPEAKER_01 (43:05):
And it is our responsibility, at least for me,
because we're given this higherintelligence, right?
And the brain that we use tosurvive during ancient times and
we develop and evolve to thinkabout why things are done,
(43:27):
things are done the way theyare, but also if you contrast it
with what we have right now,because I don't know if I I I'm
not sure of this effect.
What was this effect?
There there's there's a tthere's a test study on if you
(43:48):
see, if you perceive a certainthing this way, I don't know why
it's escaped my brain right now.
If you see, if you focus on onearea right now, and if you focus
a few seconds after that, youfocus on a different area.
Is that did that and and if yousee there's a how would I say
(44:12):
this?
There's a point in one area, andthen you look the other way, is
that one area that you look isactually present, or was it a
perception of your mind?
So if you could look at that,and it's it's physics, I think
it's physics.
Yeah, they did they did thistest, it was a slither test or
(44:35):
something.
If you could look at that andapply it into your life, because
everything again, everything isenergy in life, right?
And you can change it, but webecause everything that we see
right now, it is all made fromhuman mental um imagination, the
fan that I have in front of me,the iPad that I'm on, the
(44:58):
microphone that I'm holding, itwas birthed through through the
mind.
And so if the mind is sopowerful and it could change the
trajectory of your life, whatwould happen if you could use
that mind and think aboutsomething that you actually
want?
But the problem is we don't knowwhat we want sometimes.
(45:21):
We don't know what we don'tknow.
There's this pie, right?
A pie chart of life.
We only know at least 3%.
There's this there's I'm I'm Imight be butchering the the
percentage, but one percent iswhat we know, one percent is
what we know we don't know, andthe whole other big the biggest
chunk of the pie is we don'tknow what we don't know, and
(45:45):
knowing that we don't know whatwe don't know humbles you in the
way that hey, there is a biggerorder outside of me and a higher
order outside of me that isorchestrating all of this, but
that order is also giving youfree will for you to change and
(46:05):
replicate what you want in yourlife, so it is truly up to you.
So, whatever, whichever pointyou you are, wherever that you
are in your life right now,that's why people say you can
change it, you can.
And if you believe, I know HenryFord said it right.
50% of the time when you saidyou can't, you can, you can.
(46:28):
50% of the time you said youcannot, you will not.
So truly, truly, it is up toyou.
It's the act of all of this isself-actualization and being
very aware and being veryconscious.
SPEAKER_02 (46:44):
I think another way of saying that would be whether
you think you can or you can't,you are right.
SPEAKER_01 (46:49):
Yes, yes, that one.
That is the brain.
SPEAKER_02 (46:54):
And also, I think you were referring to that
quantum physics experiment, thedouble slit double slit, yes,
the split.
Double slit experiment, yes.
Yes, so the idea of does thatthing that I observed get
affected because I'm observingit?
And if I'm not observing it, andwhat is actually happening?
(47:16):
Is it behaving differently?
But I can't know because I'm notobserving it.
So it has to be measured.
Somebody has to, somebody orsomething has to be watching it
all the time to know how it'sactually behaving.
SPEAKER_01 (47:28):
Exactly.
SPEAKER_02 (47:29):
So interesting.
SPEAKER_01 (47:30):
Interesting, right?
SPEAKER_02 (47:32):
Yeah, it tickles the mind.
It's like you can't stop.
Am I supposed to be looking atit all the time?
You know, I will not look at itright now, but what is it doing
when I'm not looking at it?
SPEAKER_01 (47:41):
Yeah, and and and you expand it into life, right?
This is the direction that youtake.
Like you're at a crossroads, youare taking part B, but then you
cannot help but think aboutwhat's happening with path A.
But you've made the decision togo to Path B.
But truly, is it really a wrongpath or is it the right path?
(48:04):
You're exactly where you'remeant to be.
SPEAKER_00 (48:06):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (48:07):
So make the decision, whatever decision that
you make, yeah, that you thinkof that is for your highest
good, make it.
SPEAKER_02 (48:17):
I think that's a good way to sum up.
We can't know which is the rightpath.
Maybe there are no right paths,maybe it's just the road less
traveled.
It's just the one that we're notfamiliar with, and that's why we
are fearful of it.
But it could also be the paththat leads to greater freedom,
the path that leads toadventure, the path that leads
to something beyond our currentcircumstances, something we will
(48:40):
be uh very glad for, that ourfuture self will thank us for,
for having the courage to try.
Because that circles back to youknow what what we will be
thinking about on the deathbed.
Maybe we want to be thinking,wow, I am so blessed.
I have such a wonderful life.
I'm so grateful for all thepeople that love me and the
(49:01):
people that I love.
I'm so grateful I tried that Ihad the courage to do all those
weird, wonderful, crazy thingswhen I was younger, and I have
no regrets, and I'm ready to go.
SPEAKER_00 (49:11):
Yes.
Yeah.
So, what's the best way, Nick,for people to contact you and
work with you?
SPEAKER_01 (49:20):
Okay.
I am available on all socialmedia, but I hang around most on
LinkedIn.
My nick, my full name, NicolaJaneuras.
But if you want to know moreabout me and my story, you can
find me at www.denick Nieras,holisticlifestyle.com.
There's a w in front of the H.
(49:42):
So I try my best in the websiteto make it as pack as I could.
But truly, if you go to thelanding page, there's a program,
my approach, worthy, authentic,and abundant.
And then the next page would bemy podcasts, my media
appearances on all otherpodcasts, as well as
testimonials, and my whole arrayof offerings.
(50:05):
So, people and I do energyreading as well.
Um, I saw one message on YouTubeyesterday, and I take it as a
sign or as a message from thedivine.
Stop putting yourself in a box.
If you know that you are capableof doing a few different things,
(50:27):
stop labeling yourself to bejust one thing.
Explore.
I mean, the reason why God gaveyou that is for you to live your
life fully through all thosegifts and all those talents.
Now these does not have these umtalents, they do not have to be
monetized.
You can just enjoy them duringyour free time or with your
(50:50):
friends.
So it doesn't have to bemonetary at the end of the day.
Sometimes you just needsometimes you just need to do
them to come back to yourself.
SPEAKER_02 (51:03):
And coming from an ex-accountant who's all about
numbers, I think that's abeautiful and very serendipitous
way to end this interview.
So thank you so much, NicoletteNieras, for sharing your time
and your wisdom with us today.
SPEAKER_01 (51:18):
Serena, this has been.
I think this was divinelyorchestrated too.
And I want to say thank you andI want to acknowledge you for
the work that you're doing forbecoming for being the voice for
all those quiet warriors outthere.
SPEAKER_00 (51:33):
Thank you.
SPEAKER_02 (51:35):
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leave a five-star rating andreview to help the Quiet Warrior
podcast reach more introvertsand quiet achievers around the
world.
And for my recommended resourceson how to thrive as an
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See you on the next episode.
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