February 6, 2025 • 43 mins
When was the last time you felt genuinely connected to the stories you read or the people you meet? Join us on a heartfelt journey down memory lane as we reminisce about Walter, our delightfully absent-minded mathematician friend from London, whose quirky wisdom still shapes our lives in unexpected ways. Our conversation meanders through the emotional landscapes crafted by literature and writing—exploring how these creative endeavors stir up a cocktail of joy, nostalgia, and even discomfort.
We then find solace in the simple act of journaling, a cathartic exercise akin to emotional spring cleaning. Picture this: you, on a porch with your favorite drink, capturing raw, unfiltered thoughts on paper. This is not just about writing—it's about leaving a piece of your soul in the world, hoping to stumble upon a dog-eared copy of your work in some far-flung bookstore as a testament to your passion. Amidst dreamlike narratives of floating among clouds and debating color names, we weave humor and cultural insights that will leave you chuckling and pondering the quirks of human nature.
As the conversation unfolds, we touch on deeper themes of self-love and personal growth, acknowledging how past regrets can linger if not resolved, and reflecting on the transformative power of time and new relationships. Through personal anecdotes, we explore how family dynamics shape our ways of expressing affection, and how love, in all its unpredictable beauty, continues to evolve in our lives. This episode is a tapestry of emotions and insights, wrapped in laughter and thoughtful reflection, inviting you to join us in embracing the highs and lows of human connection.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I put a blessing on it.
Too real, that's not metaphoric.
We just put the I in iconic,buzzing like I'm electronic.
Ah yeah, I put a blessing on it.
See me dripping in it 24-7 onit.
I'm just being honest.
Ah, holy water dripping,dripping from my neck to my crap
song Two stepping on it live.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
I don't do social media Right and my phone is
mostly at home or it's.
You know, I don't carry it withme, I'm not walking around with
it in my hand all the time.
I'm terrible that way, but if Icould have, it would have been
nice to have kept in contactwith a few people.
I think and found out wherethey wound up.
(00:37):
You know, I lived in London fora while.
I was there as an exchangestudent and the guy that was in
charge of us was a mathematician.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
What do you mean?
In charge of us?
Speaker 2 (00:50):
The exchange students .
He was kind of like the motherhen and he was a mathematician,
published a bunch of books,brilliant guy I mean.
He went into like some obscurelibrary in London in the
basement and found some rattyold papers and it was some
brilliant, you knowmathematician from hundreds of
years ago.
And then you know, redid hisnotes and presented it I mean
(01:12):
just really but absent-mindedprofessor.
You know two different coloredsocks.
You know he could walk over acurb this big and trip over it
and turn around and go back tohis car and walk back and
tripped over and tri and trippedover, trip over the same same
same, same, same same.
You know, when he used to drive,he'd drive us around in the van
.
We'd go see sights and you'dlook out the back and you'd see
everybody and like uh, because Imean just almost getting into
(01:36):
an accident every five minutes,you know yeah and uh, I wish I
would have kept.
I know somebody else thatdrives like that I wish I would
have kept in touch with him.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
I wish you would have too.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Walter.
His name was Walter.
I had to write an essay beforeI left London when I was in
school and a journal.
I'd have a journal and I wrotethis journal and I mean you know
all right.
So there was some notes inthere about some of the dates.
I went on and I'll just leaveit at that and I turned it in
(02:10):
I'm laughing now and his wife.
We had a.
We had a goodbye dinner,everybody was there and his wife
came up to me, pulled me off tothe side and thanked me because
I guess it got Walter excited.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
Oh, Walter, you have cute little little watery eyes.
Right now I'm Walter.
You have cute little wateryeyes.
Right now I'm Walter.
Walter, we had a puppy namedWalter, didn't we Nick?
We did.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Anyway.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Lovely man.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
Sounds like it.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Lovely man, brilliant man.
I just he was, you know, theabsent-minded professor, the
epitome, he was, just you know.
But I just, you know, I don'tknow.
Anyway, there's people I don'tknow, Anyway, there's people I
would have liked to kept intouch with, certainly he was one
of them, and then some of mychums, you know, some of my
chums.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
What's a chum?
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Friend, it's an English term, british term.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Down here when we chum, it's what we?
Speaker 3 (03:02):
we mix up a bunch of shit in a five gallon bucket and
we're going to go fishing.
Yeah, I know Could be somebodythat was made a bad choice.
Or we could throw dog food insome kern in a five gallon
bucket with some sour beer andlet it sit.
That's chum down here Right.
A little different than that wewere in.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
England Just now.
We were in England, justthought I'd roll with it.
We were in England Just now wewere in.
England.
Yeah, so I just thought I'droll with it.
You pick things up.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
You rolled with some things in this white bread book.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
I think so, I think so.
Yeah, you know.
And then you know you readreviews and some people love it,
you know, and there's a realconnection.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
Do you read your own reviews?
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Absolutely all of them you do.
And then there's there's somewhere people are like it was too
dark.
I was in a good mood until Iread this book and now you know,
I want to, I want to, I want tocut my heart out with a dull
knife.
What's that?
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Do you think they're too sensitive?
Speaker 2 (03:56):
No, you know, here's the deal.
A writer's job is to elicitsome kind of emotion in the
reader.
Trigger the mind yeah, and it'sthe reader's job to decide what
that's going to be.
I agree If you read somethinglike this and you laugh and
you're like, oh yeah, I canconnect with that.
Wow, that was a good story.
Or if you're like boo-hoo or oh, now I'm going to be in a bad
(04:18):
mood, I'm going to havenightmares, or maybe that's a
bit of a stretch, but thenthat's up to you.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
It's your own prerogative.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Well, it's up to the reader.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Well, absolutely.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
If I elicit emotion, just as long as it's emotion,
you know, if you read it andyou're like, yeah, I fell asleep
, I was bored out of my mind,you know.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Well, I'm one.
I'm not a reader, because itdoes make me fall asleep, but
that's just my.
It doesn't have anything to dowith the content, it just has.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
That's just me okay, that's just me I I, I don't sit
still, I don't, I?
Speaker 3 (04:58):
I I'm like a little tasmanian devil.
It just spins around all overthe place all the time.
So when I do sit still and Iget that from my mom my mom was
the exact same way the minuteshe sat still boom, done, see ya
.
Good night, sweet dreams, andI'll see you tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
That's fine.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
But reading is something that will absolutely
like.
If I'm having trouble sleepingor whatever, the first thing I
can do.
But I will tell you um mostAmericans take pills well.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
I take my medication.
I don't do any of that.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
But, um, now in my life, right now I am I've been
in therapy my entire life andI've talked about it on the
podcast a million differenttimes.
And y'all can take it forwhatever it's worth, it doesn't
make a shit to me, but it iswhat I need and it's what I do.
But I can pick up a book that Ican think that is going to
(05:59):
better me or help me, or, and Ican sit there and finish it from
front to back in one eveningand never fall asleep.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Okay, so you read nonfiction.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Okay, yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
But at the same time I can put on a movie, and when
I'm done I'm just done, likedone.
But if it is something thatreally gets a hold of me and
it's a series, I will sit upthere.
It doesn't make a shit howfucking tired I am or whatever
(06:37):
my and I will binge that entirefreaking thing.
I feel like that's what yourbook is going about, all your
books I did.
I told him and he was.
He said why did you buy themand tell them what I said?
oh, because uh you said I havebooks for you because, yeah,
(06:59):
because.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
And I said that's not yeah because that's what we do
for people that's how yousupport people yeah, that's how
we do it.
That's how we support forpeople right and I sent the kids
.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
I read the snippet or the, the little, the briefing
or whatever that was on thebottom of whatever.
That was very interesting.
Did you know that was on there?
Speaker 2 (07:22):
what snippet?
Speaker 3 (07:23):
it's a nick.
How do you have?
Speaker 2 (07:27):
oh, the book itself no, it's about you oh, yeah, of
course, yeah the author, yeah,yeah, yeah, that's true, yeah is
that okay.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
Oh yeah, all right, it was great I think so, oh, I
did thank god yeah I'm glad youdidn't hate it no, I guess
that's why I'm here.
Yes, right on, that's because Ilike white bread right on so I
think I mean, it's typical.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
You have to just write a little bio, just kind of
try to put something.
You know that, you know I'm nota moron and is it hard to write
your own bio?
It took a few times.
You know it took a little bitof time.
But yeah, some people try to beum, I think some authors try to
be more fun with it.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Grab some wine, Nick.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Some more fun.
Yeah, kind of like humorous,you know.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
On the bio.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Yeah, I mean, you know I'm into crafts and I have
a herb garden, I mean, but I'mjust, I'm not wired that way.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
I'm not.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
So and.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
I'm not wired that way.
I'm not.
So it's hard for me to like thegirls will ask me on different
things, about a bio and how to Ihave a hard time Like I can't.
I can't do that.
Like she's going to grub, but Ican't.
That would be really hard, it'svery hard for me.
(08:44):
I'm not going to say that willbe because it is.
It's that to gross, but I can't.
I, that would be really hard,it's.
It's very hard for me.
I'm not going to say that willbe because it is.
It's that's hard for me.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
But if you have to, you have to.
If you have to do it, you haveto do it.
You have to sit down and do it.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
So is your bio on each one of your books, or is it
?
It's all related?
Speaker 2 (09:03):
They're all connected .
So just a little bit about me.
That's all.
Try to update it every once ina while.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
Are they different on each book?
Speaker 2 (09:11):
What my bio?
No, my bio hasn't changed.
I'm the same person.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Right.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Yeah, so I wouldn't change it.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
But it doesn't change with the story of the book.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Like, rewrite it for a book, just your bio.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Does it change with the story of with with the story
?
So?
Speaker 2 (09:34):
I'm sorry we had.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
No, don't be because you're the smart one, I'm not.
We have lots of things that wedo thank you, man, that man,
that's plenty.
So if we have um you just hither.
Yeah, no, she, she gonna hit metwice.
She does, yep.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
That's why I'm not great.
That's my girl.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
That's so good, but um different scenarios.
Yes, I'm the same person, butdifferent scenarios bring a
different side of my bio.
Okay, I never gave it that muchthought Seriously.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Seriously Never gave it that much thought, you know.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
I just never gave it that much thought you make me
think a lot.
About what.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
Everything, a lot of things.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Really, I hope that's good.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
That is very good.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
I'm glad.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Yeah, that's why I'm so excited.
You make me think too, really.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
You make me think why did she invite me here?
Speaker 3 (10:35):
Why am I back in second time?
Now you're doing what I do isoverthinking things, but no,
that's the only thing.
I'm just so honored that you'rehere.
Oh really, wow, I'm superflattered 10% super flattered.
No, you have no idea.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
I'm super flattered.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
When we, when we visited um the first time and we
left, and you know our mutualfriend mags I've known mags for
a very long time and you guysobviously have as well and um he
said, man, I've never seen youlike so quiet, like, and I said
no, it wasn't, and nick is withme 24 7 365 it's my fault no,
(11:17):
it's not.
There's no fault, it's he.
He's never seen me processthings like he's never seen me
like nick has seen me where sheknows if I'm going to go, if I'm
building a stage or if I'msetting up a a venue or if we're
um.
My creative mindset is I'm avery, very strange bird.
(11:43):
Bird, no, I think your action.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Your creative mindset is action.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
It's real quick and fast.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
When you said about decorating, about setting things
up you physically.
It's action for you Am.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
I wrong?
No, not at all.
I mean, that's what I picked up, but it's not planned, it's not
um.
It happens real quick, realfast.
If and I've had, um we've doneweddings at their resort, I've
done private parties, I've doneum surprise birthday parties,
(12:15):
I've had people that havereached out to me and said hey,
can we, can we do this?
And and we're going to um getmarried in 2032.
And we'd like to talk to youright now.
I'm like wait, what Look?
I went into that five-year plan, 500-year plan you were talking
about.
I'm only five years old now, andI'm thinking you know what you
(12:37):
guys need to contact me abouttwo to three weeks before your
wedding and they're like waitwhat?
And I'm thinking oh no, if Ihave that much time to, I am
going to get myself in so muchtrouble.
And no, I can't, I'm not builtthat way.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
It happens real quick , real fast.
I need to be left alone in thescenario.
I'm going to ask you what yourhot buttons are.
What do you want to accomplishout of this?
And then I we need to separate.
I'm going to go to the left,right whatever, and then it's
(13:24):
going to happen or it's not, butit's real quick and it's real
fast.
Much different than readingwriting, writing.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Oh yeah, right, I told you it was cathartic.
I don't even know what the fuckthat means.
I talked about this last time.
It's a purge, it's a release.
You know, you get worked up.
You get worked up, you know,and you feel it and you have to
get it on paper.
It's I'm, I'm.
I don't want to say this isprobably really.
It's like almost like you vomitit out.
It's just blah and you got toget it out.
You know, you got to.
(13:48):
You know what I mean.
I do.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
I'm a.
I like to journal.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
And you write, and you write, you know, and it
comes out, and then you're.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
Yes.
And like I said, it's a veryWrite drunk edit sober Right.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
And you know I mean especially when I'm you know,
not all the time.
I don't always write, becauseI'll write in the morning
sometimes, but not when I'mliquored up.
But some of my best work, Ithink, is when I've got a buzz
on Right.
You know I'll sit on the backporch with a bottle of some rum
or whatever.
Yes, tequila.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
And and just sit there.
You know, get started, bringout a candle yeah, I won't turn
the lights on and just sit thereand write, write, write, write,
write, write, write.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
I do.
There's times where I've done.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
And writing is action .
It's active.
It's active Since you know youhave that energy, and to me it's
the same thing.
You're actually involved withit and you know if you read
enough and I know you're not abig reader, but if you read
enough and I've always been thisway because I've done a lot of
work in journals and magazinesand stuff it's like okay, I've
read a bunch of your stuff, nowyou're going to read my stuff.
(14:56):
You know what I mean?
Yeah, it's your turn yeah, itdoes wow I'll process.
That's part of it also.
That's part of it also.
You know I've read enough ofyour stuff.
I've read so much stuff, so youknow what?
Now you're going to readsomething that I wrote.
You know, let me sharesomething with you, right?
Speaker 3 (15:15):
tell me what you think what do you um on this
first book?
Not white bread, yes.
What do you want people to takefrom it?
Wow Um if anything at all.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
Wow, that's an interesting question.
Like I said, each story standsalone Right, and, like I said,
there's some life lessons ineach story.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
Did you think about that when you, when you were
starting Absolutely?
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Absolutely yeah, Same thing with the second book you
know, and some of the stories inthe second book and again, it's
not so testosterone-y, some ofthe second book.
There's some of my stories inthere and some are just totally
fiction and some are kind oflike a mixture, but it's still
the same idea, trying to pass onsome life lessons and hopefully
, some of the stories.
(16:03):
People sit and reflect, becauselife goes by so fast and it's
hard to stop and think aboutthings once in a while.
You know, and if, if you know,what do I want to get out of
what?
What you know, to me, asuccessful writing career is
this, and this is this isprobably very romantic, but I'm
like in the Pacific Islandsomewhere, in some small little
(16:23):
island and typical those, thoselittle islands, there'll be like
one little store, you know be asmall store on the island where
people come in with boats.
You know, either personal orsomething larger and you know,
and they trade things or putthings in there, and the one
store has everything from youknow, clothing, canned goods, uh
, fishing tackle, maybe some whoknows a little bit of
(16:47):
everything.
And I walk in this is a fantasy.
I walk in and there's a beat-upcardboard box in the far corner
and somebody has a black magicmarker and they scrawled on it,
you know, like 10 cents EA, youknow each, and it's all crooked.
And I walk over to this beat-upcardboard box and there's a
(17:08):
bunch of paperbacks in there andthey're all torn up and well
read and I'm pawing through themand I find one of my books in
the bottom and to me that meansI would have made it I freaking
love the shit out of that.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
Just saying that's freaking epic.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
That would be epic for me.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
When you started sailing, when you started that
and we started with the islands,we went to the boat pulling in.
We went to the little store.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
I could be like I said right then, and there you
could bury me in the ground.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
See, and that's how I feel.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
I'd be ready to take my dirt nap right after that.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
I tell the kids all the time I talk about.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
That would be the pinnacle.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
I would be okay if my dirt nap happened tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
That's good.
That's a good life Because youhave lived for an eternity.
We talked about that last time,but that would be a good life
I'm not done, you're ready, butif it was to happen, you would
never be done.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
No, you would never be done.
Damn right, you would never bedone.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
I don't know you that well and I could tell already
you would never be done Exactly.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
Right, which is why I just terrorizing everybody down
here going, and then what Iwanted to do was and then nope,
that doesn't go here, and nope,you should have put.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
and this would be so much cuter if you move this over
here and I would just move itmyself yeah, I can imagine if
they keep you, like your head,alive forever, you know, and
they just carried around yourface and your skull and you'd be
just badgering everyone, youknow that's exactly what I'm
gonna do'll be like please putthe rest of it in the ground.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
Please, for fuck's sake, put the rest of it in the
ground.
Why is she still doing whatshe's?
Speaker 2 (18:49):
doing Please, I'm going to.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
I'm going to.
It's going to be fun.
It's going to be a good time upthere.
I'm going to bounce from cloudto cloud to cloud, to cloud to
cloud.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Right on.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
I'm going lips.
A couple front, a coupleaerials, a couple side-by-sides
Cool Dance, a little jig.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Love it.
I can't wait.
I'll be in blackness.
I can't wait.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
I'll be in blackness just floating around, thinking
going.
I remember that crazy gal fromNew Braunfels.
Yeah, whatever happened to her,yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Yeah, she's probably whatever.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
Uh whatever, that's right.
When your nose is going to beitching, I'm going to scratch it
.
I'm telling you there'll be noitches.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
There'll be no itches .
I won't have to reach foranything, nothing, I just
hanging out, you know.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
Party of one.
George, party of one.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
Well, I just don't think everybody thinks're going
to live to be 100 and afterwardsit'll be a big party and it'll
be white clouds and you know,and you know dove, birds, and
it's like open bar.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
You'll see everybody you miss and your family, and
we'll all get together see, Idon't think I'm going to see
anybody, I think it's just goingto be really.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
Not even family.
Maybe they want to see you.
Ooh, what happens if it's theirdecision and not yours?
Speaker 3 (20:18):
Oh, we're going to talk about it.
If they do, we're going to sitdown at that table and we're
going to have a chit chat.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
They're going to stay on their cloud.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
My clouds are going to be pink.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
My elders are probably not going to be pink.
Really, you like pink, myelders?
Speaker 3 (20:29):
Not really.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
My elders.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
I would have loved.
For whatever reason, I think mycloud is going to be pink.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
There's a lot of questions I would have liked to
ask my.
You know my elders.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
I usually.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
I wonder I remember them saying that.
I wonder you know, and then youstart thinking, oh wow, I kind
of missed out on that.
I would have liked to know.
It's too late now, anyway, soyou can have a pink cloud, huh.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
I think so.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
But you don't like pink.
No Well, I guess that's good.
At least not white.
Everybody thinks white andlight.
You know light and stuff.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
Mine's going to be a nice hint of Fuchsia.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
How about fuchsia I?
Speaker 3 (21:07):
know what fuchsia is that's so bright.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
I know what fuchsia is.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
I do too.
She lives in the Bronx.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
A lot of men do not know what the color fuchsia is.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
That's because they need to get in touch with their
personals.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
No, you have to date a woman who likes fuchsia.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
Then you learn what fuchsia is you have to be in
tune with you.
Any man that's comfortable intheir manhood should know what
fuchsia is really you think so?
Speaker 2 (21:32):
absolutely okay yeah, it's a palette it's a palette
of color yes, it is of a ray ofcolor why does a man have to
know what fuchsia is?
Speaker 3 (21:44):
why shouldn't a man know what fuchsia is?
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Well, I mean, if he dates a woman that likes black,
that always dresses in black,then he probably would never
know what fuchsia is.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
That is a choice.
Sounds depressing.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Well, you know, it sounds, Some women are.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
I mean it sounds like the Adams family Well sounds,
some women are.
I mean it sounds like the uh,the adams family well, some
women are but, some women, youknow, I mean I don't want to go.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
I'm not saying full-on goth, but some women are
.
Some women do like black.
They wear a lot of black orbrown or some other color and
they're not into pink or fuchsia.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
So I mean, can't judge a man by his color palette
.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
Oh, but you can.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
Really Okay.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
No, you can judge for all the wrong reasons.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
Okay, you don't seem judgmental to me, though.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
Oh, I'm racist as fuck.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
No shit, but you know that was.
You're not judgmental, you'reobservant.
I'm extremely sarcastic.
Oh, I'm cynical.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
I know you don't know me that.
Well, I'll get out.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
I'm more sarcastic than anything.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
What's the difference between sarcastic and cynical?
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Ooh, sarcastic and cynical.
Probably a couple letters, Idon't know what.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
You're the smart one, I'm not.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
I asked you the question.
I told you I don't know, maybethe spelling that's about it, I
don't know.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
Cynical and sarcasm.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
A day of the week.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Really?
Yeah, no, I don't think so.
I beg to differ.
I beg to differ.
I mean I see sarcasm in a lotof things.
I like to joke around, I love Ihave a good, I have a, believe
it or not, I do have a goodsense of humor and I and like.
Sarcastic is one of my, like,my strongest traits.
(23:41):
But, um, cynical is no, I don'tthink I'm cynical I don't think
you're cynical.
Yeah, but I love beingsarcastic.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
I'm sarcastic as shit .
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Sarcasm is funny.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
It's so much fun, but some people can't embrace it.
They don't know how to take it.
They're offended by it.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Right.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
Texans are offended by sarcasm.
We've got a bunch of pussiesaround here.
Don't let them, don't judge usall.
We just talked about that.
I'll tell you something funny.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
I spent most of my time in the South.
You know the Carolinas,virginia, tennessee.
Texas Spent my adult life.
I left the Northeast when I wasin my teens and I remember
coming to Texas just as a joke.
Just as a joke, and I would seea Texas flag.
I'd go oh look, puerto Rican.
You know Puerto Rican flag,which was just nothing but
sarcasm it was a joke and peoplewould get so offended.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
We are very proud, I understand.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
Only state in the union US flag and the Texas
state flag flies at the sameheight.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
Only state in the union.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Salute to that.
I understand.
That's why I love this statevery.
Yeah, I feel very at home.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
Yeah, yes, I understand our pride and when it
comes to it was just an example.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
It was just an example, but I could give you
other examples are you watchingmy?
Speaker 3 (25:00):
it was a joke.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
It was a joke.
It's just sarcasm.
It's just like I was like oh,you know jokes and sarcasm are
two different things.
Can I tell you a joke Irecently wrote and I told my
wife this is a flag.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
No, it's about my wife.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
I wrote this joke and I told my wife this joke and
she didn't think it was funny.
In fact she didn't get it.
So I'm going to run it past you.
Tell me if this is funny.
All right, let's go.
Okay, so I have a girlfriendand she, and she thinks her wine
box is a kitchen appliance.
Come on, it's kind of funny,isn't it?
She didn't even get it.
She didn't think it was funny.
I appreciate that she thinksher wine box is a kitchen
(25:37):
appliance.
That is kind of funny huh, Iget it I totally get it.
Right on, I told you I'm a wino.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
That's why I told it, because I thought you would
enjoy it.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
Yeah, I totally get it yeah, so you can tell
somebody that joke and say anduse you as the punchline.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
I usually walk myself into my own punchline.
Yeah, I just kind of say, hey,you know what my wine box my
wine go hey, you know what mywine box is?
Speaker 2 (26:03):
my is a kitchen, for me is a kitchen appliance.
You can say that.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
I have a hat that I have been offered.
I think the last bid on thathat was $7,500.
And the hat it's not an actualbid, it's an offer.
Oh, an offer or whatever, yeah,no, it's not.
It's not for sale.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
It's your hat.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
It's my hat.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
Okay.
And it says I fuck the owner.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
Okay, I am the owner.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Okay, all right, congratulations.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
Exactly.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
You've climbed that mountain.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
More than once Was it good.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
Of course it was.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Right on, there you go.
Self-love is the best love.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
You're damn right.
It's like scratching that itchLook at that.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
You want to cheers again, don't you Look?
Speaker 3 (26:46):
Look at that speed.
You want to cheers again, don't?
Speaker 2 (26:47):
you Look, self-love is the best love it is.
If you don't love yourself, youcan't love anyone else.
Agreed, I had a hooker tell methat Really she got I was in
college.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
I was in college.
You must have scratched heritch.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
We did go on a date, but nothing happened.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
We know I'm not going to let that slide.
Yes, you can.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
But anyway she was, she had a daughter.
She had a daughter and peoplewould.
She told me people would get onher case about not paying
enough attention to her daughterand at the time she was trying
to get her life in a good spot,you know.
And um, and she said, and I'llnever, and I'll never forget
this either.
She said if you, if you're not,if you're not happy with
yourself, you can't make anybodyelse happy around you.
(27:28):
You know what I mean.
I mean if you're miserable withyourself, then you'll make you
know.
You know, obviously so, andthat's what you said and it kind
of stuck with me too.
So she was busy working on itand making herself a better
person, something that she likedyou know before she could
really kind of pass it on to herchild.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
So anyway, that's very valid.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
I agree with her, since we're talking about
self-love, so can't love anybodyuntil you love yourself.
I agree, I know that's the samething about death floating
around in your own thoughts.
That would be purgatory if youhated yourself.
Ooh, I shouldn't have done thatand I shouldn't have done this,
and I should have been betterto her and I should have been
better to him do you think thatI don't think that you should be
(28:14):
thinking about those momentswhen you die?
Speaker 3 (28:17):
I think you should be thinking about those moments
while you're still here yes, butsometimes we don't have time.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
We don't have time, but in eternity you have time.
But yes, we think about that,we think about it, you know.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
I do.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
I did something this past week.
I wish I didn't do and I'm notgoing to share it with you, but
I wish I didn't do and I've beenstruggling with the last few
days, but I was liquored up sodid you fix it?
No, and I thought, and then thenext day, I no, I'm not going
to fix it.
Why?
Because it wasn't that big of adeal and I don't want to
discuss it.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
But you don't have to , but it is a big deal if you're
still thinking about it.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
Yeah, it is, but it's personal.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
Most of them are.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
Well, I mean it's, it's my, you know it's my, you
know it's internal, it's in me.
Everything right it does.
Time heals everything.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
Does it?
Speaker 2 (29:08):
Yep, same thing with the ocean Salt water?
No, is it?
Salt water cures everything,whether it's sweat.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
Salt water burns.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
Salt water cures everything, whether it's sweat,
tears or the sea.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
Salt water stings.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
That's a quote.
Salt water cures everythingSweat, tears or the sea, but
time, time heals everything.
Time of the sea, but um time,time heals everything time lets
you get over a lot of things itdoes.
(29:41):
Yeah sure, death of a loved one.
After you know initially and Iin this book is that way too
initially my father passed away.
It's all about you know, oh mygod, you know chiming and then,
after years, go on, you thinkabout the good times you had
with that person, you know, andit's more positive than negative
and you accept it.
It's probably has something todo with the stages of grief, but
(30:02):
you accept it and you think ofthe positive things yeah be
positive.
So time heals a lot of things.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
It does.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
We live long enough and we're not taking our say it
dirt nap.
Yeah, say it.
Say it Dirt nap, dirt nap.
There you go.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
No, I'm not ready for my dirt nap, but if that was to
happen, I'd be, I'd be allright with it.
I'd be, I'd be all right withit.
Okay, I've had enough um kidsand people that have crossed my
(30:46):
path that still reach out to meto this day, that um tell me,
thank you.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
And that I will take that with I take it with me
every single day.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
Can I flip you a compliment?
You can flip me anything, aslong as it's not the bird?
Speaker 2 (30:55):
it's not, I would never do that, but I don't know
you, obviously, and we've we'vesat this the.
You know we sat down twicetogether now and unfortunately
it's been on camera.
But, um, I could see that yeahyou.
You are, you're a good person.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
Likewise.
You're a good person, so thebook.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
Not White Bread Good.
This is the first one, many tocome.
Can I read something on theback?
Speaker 2 (31:19):
Can.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
I read something on the back, please.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
For those who like to travel.
And it says right here, it sayshe shares moments from his life
, while in New York, maine,washington DC, taxa, dominica,
afghanistan, saudi Arabia, so itdoes kind of take a trip around
the world too, if you're intothat also.
(31:47):
Their settings vary, you know,and I don't know if I said I
probably skipped a line Florida,grand Bahama AT, so just a
bunch of different countries, abunch of different places.
So too, if you're like intotravel and adventure, life
lessons that's really the thrustof the book.
A little bit of poetry Don't beupset with that, because I
(32:10):
don't think it's that bad.
They're short pieces and thenquotes, and then some quotes
I've written over the years.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
I'm a quote person.
I love quotes.
So, why I am infatuated withthem.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
Have you read quote books before.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
All the time.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
Really Well.
There's quotes in both books.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
I send them to the girls on a regular basis.
I send them to the kids, I sendthem to yeah, I'm a huge quote
person.
It can change so much.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
So good enough is seldom good and never enough.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
Right on, I love that one.
I do too.
I got that from grandma.
Yes, that's so I got that fromgrandma.
Yes, that's so I got that fromgrandma, well, impressive work.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
Grant Ben Franklin Jr's Almanac Good enough is
seldom good and never enough.
Never settle for good enough.
He's good enough, she's goodenough, it's good enough.
Don't settle for that.
Don't settle for that.
Don't settle for that.
No, that's no way to live yourlife, no, yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
One thing that made me think and really realize
about settling and things that Iyou can, some people like him,
some people hate him.
It is what it is, but this isone thing that stuck and he took
um it, whatever theconversation was at this
particular time, because I'veseen him do it multiple times.
But in his show he took a rulerand spread it across the floor
and said do you realize how oldyou are right now?
(33:58):
and this person was 51, 52, 60,65, whatever that's middle age
uh-huh, most people don't livewhen we just we were talking
about it earlier past the age of70.
If you make it greatCongratulations.
Do you realize that you aredoing the bullshit that you are
fucking doing and that you areonly going to possibly be here
(34:21):
If God chooses that?
You will be here for possiblymaybe another 10 years, maybe
another five, maybe another 20,but you're on this portion of
that ruler until somebody wastalking about death.
Huh, yes, right on phil oh, Imean it's yeah and it and the
dash has been a a I've sent thekids.
(34:42):
They didn't know about the dashand and yeah, you, the dash
it's.
It's not when you got herenaked or when you leave naked,
in my case the dash in themiddle.
What did you do?
Speaker 2 (34:59):
the magic and mayhem.
It's not the dash, it's themagic and mayhem it's the I'll.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
I'll send you the dash, we're all born.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
that's how it starts for everyone, and we all die.
That's how it starts foreveryone, and we all die.
That's how it ends.
Yep, it's what you do with themiddle part.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
That's right, magic and mayhem?
Speaker 2 (35:14):
No, it's not.
It's called magic and mayhem.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
I think it's magic and mayhem.
Speaker 3 (35:18):
I think I like that.
I think it's crazy and it'smagical on a tombstone and I
hate the word, but and I can'tbelieve I just did that it's the
year you're born and it's theyear that you pass away, but
they always put the dash in themiddle and that's why it's
called the dash.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
That's why it's dash.
What's going to be on yourtombstone?
Are you going to put a quote onyour tombstone?
Speaker 3 (35:44):
Am I yeah?
Speaker 2 (35:46):
Have you thought about that?
I Am, I, yeah.
Have you thought about that?
I haven't.
I have not thought about thatno.
It's going to be.
You know, here lies.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
Tiffany, here lies a fucking shit show is what it's
going to say.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
I don't think so.
You wouldn't write that, wouldyou?
Speaker 3 (36:00):
I wouldn't, the kids would.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
No, they wouldn't write a shit show.
Speaker 3 (36:03):
They would.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
They'd probably love you to death.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
I love my kids but I love hard.
I'm a very what I telleverybody on the daily I love
you, I do.
I love big.
I think it's very important.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
Okay, love big.
Speaker 3 (36:24):
I do.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
I love very, very big you don't love small, you love
big I love very big, big and Iwill.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
I love very big, big and I will tell you Love huge, I
love big.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
I will say I love you big.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
I don't love small.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
I love huge, love you big.
I love you big.
Okay, yeah, I do.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
Right on yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
But I'll be.
I'm sure they feel it.
Speaker 3 (36:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
They're big, okay, right on, they do.
That's nice, that's flattering,that's you.
Speaker 3 (36:54):
I can see you doing that.
Mags and I were going on toHome Depot.
That was a fucking experience.
This guy on a Saturday with meat Home Depot and I'm the
project queen and whatever, asI've been told before.
But I love me some projects andI was building and I had my
notebook and all my things.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
I can imagine you causing a ruckus at Home Depot.
They don't think.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
I work there.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
No, they don't, and I don't know why.
No, they don't.
Speaker 3 (37:19):
Oh yeah, Believe me.
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
We're all on first name basis Miss, miss Yep.
Speaker 3 (37:24):
Anybody that walks in there?
What?
Speaker 2 (37:25):
aisle.
They need to go to what?
Speaker 3 (37:27):
bay they need to go to.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
I'm looking for this plumbing thing.
Yeah, from that person.
Oh yeah, Really I would neverapproach you.
Speaker 3 (37:33):
Poor shit.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
I wouldn't.
Speaker 3 (37:34):
Why.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
I just wouldn't.
I'd run the other way.
If I didn't know you, I'd runthe other way.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
Would you really?
I would never think you were a.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
Home Depot person.
Speaker 3 (37:49):
Holy, you're a Home Depot person.
Holy pickles.
I would never think you were aHome Depot worker.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
It is my favorite place in the entire world.
Speaker 3 (37:53):
Really it's the only time she'll go shopping.
That's the only time, oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
Your favorite place to go shopping Wow.
Speaker 3 (37:59):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
Mine would be a liquor store.
Speaker 3 (38:02):
Yeah, I got a couple of them.
I'll send you that.
I'd be a liquor store.
Support, support, support.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
I'd be a liquor store , it would be mine.
No, mine is definitely.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
Home Depot.
Speaker 2 (38:11):
Right on.
Speaker 3 (38:12):
But we're leaving Home Depot and you called your
mom right, or did she?
She was doing something.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
And someone asked you where the plywood was.
Speaker 3 (38:24):
Well, he's on the phone with his mom and they're
having a conversation orwhatever.
And he was like, okay, we'retrying to pull out of the gas
station because we went to twoor three and this one's on
negative E and we're on fumesand he still hadn't put any fuel
in his truck.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
Why do I not?
Why do I believe that?
Why do I believe that?
100% Okay.
So this setting.
Yes, I got the setting Okay.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
And so we're trying to ease through two, three lane,
four lane deal and he's on thephone and he hangs up and I said
you didn't tell her that youloved her.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
Yeah, it was pretty lame.
Speaker 3 (39:01):
He said okay, mom, I got to go.
Are you doing this Really?
That, yeah, it was pretty lame.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
He said okay, mom, I got to go.
Are you doing this Really?
Speaker 1 (39:04):
That's pretty lame.
Yeah, that's pretty lame I saidyou forgot.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
So you need to call her back right now and you need
to tell your mom you love her.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
You did not say, did he do it?
No Of course not, bossy woman.
I just wanted to get her celly,so I could just tell her that
we love you and we made itthrough and I did say we're
about to die in a four lanetraffic.
Speaker 3 (39:27):
Some families are not that way, because your son is
driving Some families are notthat way.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
Some families are not that way.
They're not that affectionate.
Speaker 3 (39:34):
My family was not my dad and my mom never.
Speaker 1 (39:40):
But your kids are.
Speaker 2 (39:41):
My kids every single one you can ask Nick.
Nick hears us never, but yourkids are my kids.
So every single one you can asknick, your family's affection,
your family's affection, hisfamily's not affection.
You can't hold them.
You can't hold them to the samestandard.
We can't.
Some families are not that way.
They're very standoffish.
Speaker 3 (39:53):
They're very standoffish my dad never told me
that he loved me until probablythe last year to two years.
He would say, and I wouldalways say I love you, dad, and
he'd be like, okay, bye.
Speaker 2 (40:07):
You didn't say I love you big.
I always say I love you big.
Do you say it to your dad,mm-hmm, I'd make you call him
back and say it.
Yep, but some families aren'tthat way, you know.
They just aren't, you know.
Speaker 3 (40:20):
I was not raised that way.
Speaker 2 (40:21):
My family was not affectionate at all, not at all.
Speaker 3 (40:25):
Not huggers, not at all.
I'm a hugger.
Speaker 2 (40:27):
Not at all, and I'm not, I'm really not a hugger,
you know, but I you know thething is, and I'd be honest with
you too.
Speaker 3 (40:32):
That's what.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
Max said Well, it's also has to do with respect.
Also, you know somebody else's,you know somebody.
It's not a call.
Eh, I understand that, Iunderstand that, I understand
that.
But I, because my the way I wasraised, yeah, I mean my family
didn't you know Right, wasn'tthat way, you know?
Speaker 3 (40:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:56):
I get it.
I would call up my mother onthe phone and every time I
called her up she couldn't waitto get off.
And you know it was like it wasalmost.
She thought it was the old dayswhen it was like really
expensive to make long distancephone calls and it's like it
doesn't cost
Speaker 3 (41:09):
it's not cost yeah, it's not costing me anything.
Speaker 2 (41:11):
Your cricket phone and she would just immediately
she immediately tried to get offthe phone as soon as I call up
you know that it was that youknow, that was my mom, you know,
but that's how it always was.
You know, and um, that was itmy mom, you know, but that's how
it always was you know, and um,that was it.
Speaker 3 (41:27):
My mom was never, never a hugger, never a toucher.
She's still here.
Yeah, yeah, no.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
And I respect that and I never tried to change her
to be that way.
No, I mean, that's just the wayit was and that's the way I was
.
I was like, okay.
Speaker 3 (41:40):
I just made sure I was never going to be that
person, that's fine and that'sfine.
Speaker 2 (41:43):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And I think other people changeyou.
You get away from home and thenyou meet people or date people
or get close to people that aredifferent, and you're saying,
wow, this is better.
Or you might think it's youdon't like it either, or you
think it's better and I want tobe different, and I want things
to be different in my life.
Speaker 3 (42:03):
Same.
Speaker 2 (42:04):
Yeah, right on, so that's cool.
Speaker 3 (42:05):
Yeah, yeah, that was a good time.
Thanks for coming to my sheshed.
Speaker 2 (42:09):
Oh well, thank you for inviting me again.
I can't believe that youinvited me back for a second
taping.
Speaker 3 (42:16):
We had so much more.
Speaker 2 (42:17):
I thought it's just the beginning of our
relationship, really, oh God,wait till you get to know me.
Speaker 3 (42:30):
Eventually there's going to be something there that
makes your brain snap andyou'll be like get out now, how
dare you.
You'll throw that whole glassof wine in my face.
No, first of all, I will never.
Never.
I'll wait till the glass isempty, but I'm not going to
throw the wine, so you break theempty glass over my head.
Speaker 2 (42:40):
Okay, so I'll correct that statement.
Yeah, yeah yeah, who are youagain Sorry.
I'm going to be out of town.
Speaker 3 (42:49):
Got a little wedding.
Speaker 2 (42:52):
The sun is in my eyes .
I tripped over a rock.
Speaker 1 (42:56):
There's an elephant in the room.
There's an elephant in the room.
Speaker 3 (42:58):
It's probably a camel or a zebra or something.
Speaker 2 (43:00):
Thank you, again for having me.
Speaker 3 (43:01):
I'm so glad you're here I'm so glad I'm here too.
Speaker 2 (43:04):
Really, it's better than being boring.
Speaker 3 (43:06):
Not white bread.
Speaker 2 (43:07):
Not white bread.
Speaker 3 (43:08):
yeah, it's not wheat, it's not white.
No, it's not.
It's not white bread.
It's not white bread, which isa slang term for not just every
day, it's a little different.
Get it, I ordered it.
Everybody else can too.
Speaker 2 (43:24):
If they want to, don't read it and fall asleep.
Speaker 1 (43:31):
Oh, I won't.
I put a blessing on it.
Too real, that's not metaphoric.
We just put the I in iconic,buzzing like I'm electronic.
Ah yeah, I put a blessing on it.
See me dripping in it 24-7 onit.
I'm just being honest.
Ah, holy water dripping,dripping from my neck to my crap
song Two stepping on it live.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
I don't do social media Right and my phone is
mostly at home or it's.
You know, I don't carry it withme, I'm not walking around with
it in my hand all the time.
I'm terrible that way, but if Icould have, it would have been
nice to have kept in contactwith a few people.
I think and found out wherethey wound up.
(00:37):
You know, I lived in London fora while.
I was there as an exchangestudent and the guy that was in
charge of us was a mathematician.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
What do you mean?
In charge of us?
Speaker 2 (00:50):
The exchange students .
He was kind of like the motherhen and he was a mathematician,
published a bunch of books,brilliant guy I mean.
He went into like some obscurelibrary in London in the
basement and found some rattyold papers and it was some
brilliant, you knowmathematician from hundreds of
years ago.
And then you know, redid hisnotes and presented it I mean
(01:12):
just really but absent-mindedprofessor.
You know two different coloredsocks.
You know he could walk over acurb this big and trip over it
and turn around and go back tohis car and walk back and
tripped over and tri and trippedover, trip over the same same
same, same, same same.
You know, when he used to drive,he'd drive us around in the van
.
We'd go see sights and you'dlook out the back and you'd see
everybody and like uh, because Imean just almost getting into
(01:36):
an accident every five minutes,you know yeah and uh, I wish I
would have kept.
I know somebody else thatdrives like that I wish I would
have kept in touch with him.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
I wish you would have too.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Walter.
His name was Walter.
I had to write an essay beforeI left London when I was in
school and a journal.
I'd have a journal and I wrotethis journal and I mean you know
all right.
So there was some notes inthere about some of the dates.
I went on and I'll just leaveit at that and I turned it in
(02:10):
I'm laughing now and his wife.
We had a.
We had a goodbye dinner,everybody was there and his wife
came up to me, pulled me off tothe side and thanked me because
I guess it got Walter excited.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
Oh, Walter, you have cute little little watery eyes.
Right now I'm Walter.
You have cute little wateryeyes.
Right now I'm Walter.
Walter, we had a puppy namedWalter, didn't we Nick?
We did.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Anyway.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Lovely man.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
Sounds like it.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Lovely man, brilliant man.
I just he was, you know, theabsent-minded professor, the
epitome, he was, just you know.
But I just, you know, I don'tknow.
Anyway, there's people I don'tknow, Anyway, there's people I
would have liked to kept intouch with, certainly he was one
of them, and then some of mychums, you know, some of my
chums.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
What's a chum?
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Friend, it's an English term, british term.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Down here when we chum, it's what we?
Speaker 3 (03:02):
we mix up a bunch of shit in a five gallon bucket and
we're going to go fishing.
Yeah, I know Could be somebodythat was made a bad choice.
Or we could throw dog food insome kern in a five gallon
bucket with some sour beer andlet it sit.
That's chum down here Right.
A little different than that wewere in.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
England Just now.
We were in England, justthought I'd roll with it.
We were in England Just now wewere in.
England.
Yeah, so I just thought I'droll with it.
You pick things up.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
You rolled with some things in this white bread book.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
I think so, I think so.
Yeah, you know.
And then you know you readreviews and some people love it,
you know, and there's a realconnection.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
Do you read your own reviews?
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Absolutely all of them you do.
And then there's there's somewhere people are like it was too
dark.
I was in a good mood until Iread this book and now you know,
I want to, I want to, I want tocut my heart out with a dull
knife.
What's that?
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Do you think they're too sensitive?
Speaker 2 (03:56):
No, you know, here's the deal.
A writer's job is to elicitsome kind of emotion in the
reader.
Trigger the mind yeah, and it'sthe reader's job to decide what
that's going to be.
I agree If you read somethinglike this and you laugh and
you're like, oh yeah, I canconnect with that.
Wow, that was a good story.
Or if you're like boo-hoo or oh, now I'm going to be in a bad
(04:18):
mood, I'm going to havenightmares, or maybe that's a
bit of a stretch, but thenthat's up to you.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
It's your own prerogative.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Well, it's up to the reader.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Well, absolutely.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
If I elicit emotion, just as long as it's emotion,
you know, if you read it andyou're like, yeah, I fell asleep
, I was bored out of my mind,you know.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Well, I'm one.
I'm not a reader, because itdoes make me fall asleep, but
that's just my.
It doesn't have anything to dowith the content, it just has.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
That's just me okay, that's just me I I, I don't sit
still, I don't, I?
Speaker 3 (04:58):
I I'm like a little tasmanian devil.
It just spins around all overthe place all the time.
So when I do sit still and Iget that from my mom my mom was
the exact same way the minuteshe sat still boom, done, see ya
.
Good night, sweet dreams, andI'll see you tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
That's fine.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
But reading is something that will absolutely
like.
If I'm having trouble sleepingor whatever, the first thing I
can do.
But I will tell you um mostAmericans take pills well.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
I take my medication.
I don't do any of that.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
But, um, now in my life, right now I am I've been
in therapy my entire life andI've talked about it on the
podcast a million differenttimes.
And y'all can take it forwhatever it's worth, it doesn't
make a shit to me, but it iswhat I need and it's what I do.
But I can pick up a book that Ican think that is going to
(05:59):
better me or help me, or, and Ican sit there and finish it from
front to back in one eveningand never fall asleep.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Okay, so you read nonfiction.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Okay, yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
But at the same time I can put on a movie, and when
I'm done I'm just done, likedone.
But if it is something thatreally gets a hold of me and
it's a series, I will sit upthere.
It doesn't make a shit howfucking tired I am or whatever
(06:37):
my and I will binge that entirefreaking thing.
I feel like that's what yourbook is going about, all your
books I did.
I told him and he was.
He said why did you buy themand tell them what I said?
oh, because uh you said I havebooks for you because, yeah,
(06:59):
because.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
And I said that's not yeah because that's what we do
for people that's how yousupport people yeah, that's how
we do it.
That's how we support forpeople right and I sent the kids
.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
I read the snippet or the, the little, the briefing
or whatever that was on thebottom of whatever.
That was very interesting.
Did you know that was on there?
Speaker 2 (07:22):
what snippet?
Speaker 3 (07:23):
it's a nick.
How do you have?
Speaker 2 (07:27):
oh, the book itself no, it's about you oh, yeah, of
course, yeah the author, yeah,yeah, yeah, that's true, yeah is
that okay.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
Oh yeah, all right, it was great I think so, oh, I
did thank god yeah I'm glad youdidn't hate it no, I guess
that's why I'm here.
Yes, right on, that's because Ilike white bread right on so I
think I mean, it's typical.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
You have to just write a little bio, just kind of
try to put something.
You know that, you know I'm nota moron and is it hard to write
your own bio?
It took a few times.
You know it took a little bitof time.
But yeah, some people try to beum, I think some authors try to
be more fun with it.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Grab some wine, Nick.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Some more fun.
Yeah, kind of like humorous,you know.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
On the bio.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Yeah, I mean, you know I'm into crafts and I have
a herb garden, I mean, but I'mjust, I'm not wired that way.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
I'm not.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
So and.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
I'm not wired that way.
I'm not.
So it's hard for me to like thegirls will ask me on different
things, about a bio and how to Ihave a hard time Like I can't.
I can't do that.
Like she's going to grub, but Ican't.
That would be really hard, it'svery hard for me.
(08:44):
I'm not going to say that willbe because it is.
It's that to gross, but I can't.
I, that would be really hard,it's.
It's very hard for me.
I'm not going to say that willbe because it is.
It's that's hard for me.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
But if you have to, you have to.
If you have to do it, you haveto do it.
You have to sit down and do it.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
So is your bio on each one of your books, or is it
?
It's all related?
Speaker 2 (09:03):
They're all connected .
So just a little bit about me.
That's all.
Try to update it every once ina while.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
Are they different on each book?
Speaker 2 (09:11):
What my bio?
No, my bio hasn't changed.
I'm the same person.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Right.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Yeah, so I wouldn't change it.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
But it doesn't change with the story of the book.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Like, rewrite it for a book, just your bio.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Does it change with the story of with with the story
?
So?
Speaker 2 (09:34):
I'm sorry we had.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
No, don't be because you're the smart one, I'm not.
We have lots of things that wedo thank you, man, that man,
that's plenty.
So if we have um you just hither.
Yeah, no, she, she gonna hit metwice.
She does, yep.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
That's why I'm not great.
That's my girl.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
That's so good, but um different scenarios.
Yes, I'm the same person, butdifferent scenarios bring a
different side of my bio.
Okay, I never gave it that muchthought Seriously.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Seriously Never gave it that much thought, you know.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
I just never gave it that much thought you make me
think a lot.
About what.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
Everything, a lot of things.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Really, I hope that's good.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
That is very good.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
I'm glad.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Yeah, that's why I'm so excited.
You make me think too, really.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
You make me think why did she invite me here?
Speaker 3 (10:35):
Why am I back in second time?
Now you're doing what I do isoverthinking things, but no,
that's the only thing.
I'm just so honored that you'rehere.
Oh really, wow, I'm superflattered 10% super flattered.
No, you have no idea.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
I'm super flattered.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
When we, when we visited um the first time and we
left, and you know our mutualfriend mags I've known mags for
a very long time and you guysobviously have as well and um he
said, man, I've never seen youlike so quiet, like, and I said
no, it wasn't, and nick is withme 24 7 365 it's my fault no,
(11:17):
it's not.
There's no fault, it's he.
He's never seen me processthings like he's never seen me
like nick has seen me where sheknows if I'm going to go, if I'm
building a stage or if I'msetting up a a venue or if we're
um.
My creative mindset is I'm avery, very strange bird.
(11:43):
Bird, no, I think your action.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Your creative mindset is action.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
It's real quick and fast.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
When you said about decorating, about setting things
up you physically.
It's action for you Am.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
I wrong?
No, not at all.
I mean, that's what I picked up, but it's not planned, it's not
um.
It happens real quick, realfast.
If and I've had, um we've doneweddings at their resort, I've
done private parties, I've doneum surprise birthday parties,
(12:15):
I've had people that havereached out to me and said hey,
can we, can we do this?
And and we're going to um getmarried in 2032.
And we'd like to talk to youright now.
I'm like wait, what Look?
I went into that five-year plan, 500-year plan you were talking
about.
I'm only five years old now, andI'm thinking you know what you
(12:37):
guys need to contact me abouttwo to three weeks before your
wedding and they're like waitwhat?
And I'm thinking oh no, if Ihave that much time to, I am
going to get myself in so muchtrouble.
And no, I can't, I'm not builtthat way.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
It happens real quick , real fast.
I need to be left alone in thescenario.
I'm going to ask you what yourhot buttons are.
What do you want to accomplishout of this?
And then I we need to separate.
I'm going to go to the left,right whatever, and then it's
(13:24):
going to happen or it's not, butit's real quick and it's real
fast.
Much different than readingwriting, writing.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Oh yeah, right, I told you it was cathartic.
I don't even know what the fuckthat means.
I talked about this last time.
It's a purge, it's a release.
You know, you get worked up.
You get worked up, you know,and you feel it and you have to
get it on paper.
It's I'm, I'm.
I don't want to say this isprobably really.
It's like almost like you vomitit out.
It's just blah and you got toget it out.
You know, you got to.
(13:48):
You know what I mean.
I do.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
I'm a.
I like to journal.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
And you write, and you write, you know, and it
comes out, and then you're.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
Yes.
And like I said, it's a veryWrite drunk edit sober Right.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
And you know I mean especially when I'm you know,
not all the time.
I don't always write, becauseI'll write in the morning
sometimes, but not when I'mliquored up.
But some of my best work, Ithink, is when I've got a buzz
on Right.
You know I'll sit on the backporch with a bottle of some rum
or whatever.
Yes, tequila.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
And and just sit there.
You know, get started, bringout a candle yeah, I won't turn
the lights on and just sit thereand write, write, write, write,
write, write, write.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
I do.
There's times where I've done.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
And writing is action .
It's active.
It's active Since you know youhave that energy, and to me it's
the same thing.
You're actually involved withit and you know if you read
enough and I know you're not abig reader, but if you read
enough and I've always been thisway because I've done a lot of
work in journals and magazinesand stuff it's like okay, I've
read a bunch of your stuff, nowyou're going to read my stuff.
(14:56):
You know what I mean?
Yeah, it's your turn yeah, itdoes wow I'll process.
That's part of it also.
That's part of it also.
You know I've read enough ofyour stuff.
I've read so much stuff, so youknow what?
Now you're going to readsomething that I wrote.
You know, let me sharesomething with you, right?
Speaker 3 (15:15):
tell me what you think what do you um on this
first book?
Not white bread, yes.
What do you want people to takefrom it?
Wow Um if anything at all.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
Wow, that's an interesting question.
Like I said, each story standsalone Right, and, like I said,
there's some life lessons ineach story.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
Did you think about that when you, when you were
starting Absolutely?
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Absolutely yeah, Same thing with the second book you
know, and some of the stories inthe second book and again, it's
not so testosterone-y, some ofthe second book.
There's some of my stories inthere and some are just totally
fiction and some are kind oflike a mixture, but it's still
the same idea, trying to pass onsome life lessons and hopefully
, some of the stories.
(16:03):
People sit and reflect, becauselife goes by so fast and it's
hard to stop and think aboutthings once in a while.
You know, and if, if you know,what do I want to get out of
what?
What you know, to me, asuccessful writing career is
this, and this is this isprobably very romantic, but I'm
like in the Pacific Islandsomewhere, in some small little
(16:23):
island and typical those, thoselittle islands, there'll be like
one little store, you know be asmall store on the island where
people come in with boats.
You know, either personal orsomething larger and you know,
and they trade things or putthings in there, and the one
store has everything from youknow, clothing, canned goods, uh
, fishing tackle, maybe some whoknows a little bit of
(16:47):
everything.
And I walk in this is a fantasy.
I walk in and there's a beat-upcardboard box in the far corner
and somebody has a black magicmarker and they scrawled on it,
you know, like 10 cents EA, youknow each, and it's all crooked.
And I walk over to this beat-upcardboard box and there's a
(17:08):
bunch of paperbacks in there andthey're all torn up and well
read and I'm pawing through themand I find one of my books in
the bottom and to me that meansI would have made it I freaking
love the shit out of that.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
Just saying that's freaking epic.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
That would be epic for me.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
When you started sailing, when you started that
and we started with the islands,we went to the boat pulling in.
We went to the little store.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
I could be like I said right then, and there you
could bury me in the ground.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
See, and that's how I feel.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
I'd be ready to take my dirt nap right after that.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
I tell the kids all the time I talk about.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
That would be the pinnacle.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
I would be okay if my dirt nap happened tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
That's good.
That's a good life Because youhave lived for an eternity.
We talked about that last time,but that would be a good life
I'm not done, you're ready, butif it was to happen, you would
never be done.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
No, you would never be done.
Damn right, you would never bedone.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
I don't know you that well and I could tell already
you would never be done Exactly.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
Right, which is why I just terrorizing everybody down
here going, and then what Iwanted to do was and then nope,
that doesn't go here, and nope,you should have put.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
and this would be so much cuter if you move this over
here and I would just move itmyself yeah, I can imagine if
they keep you, like your head,alive forever, you know, and
they just carried around yourface and your skull and you'd be
just badgering everyone, youknow that's exactly what I'm
gonna do'll be like please putthe rest of it in the ground.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
Please, for fuck's sake, put the rest of it in the
ground.
Why is she still doing whatshe's?
Speaker 2 (18:49):
doing Please, I'm going to.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
I'm going to.
It's going to be fun.
It's going to be a good time upthere.
I'm going to bounce from cloudto cloud to cloud, to cloud to
cloud.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Right on.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
I'm going lips.
A couple front, a coupleaerials, a couple side-by-sides
Cool Dance, a little jig.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Love it.
I can't wait.
I'll be in blackness.
I can't wait.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
I'll be in blackness just floating around, thinking
going.
I remember that crazy gal fromNew Braunfels.
Yeah, whatever happened to her,yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Yeah, she's probably whatever.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
Uh whatever, that's right.
When your nose is going to beitching, I'm going to scratch it
.
I'm telling you there'll be noitches.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
There'll be no itches .
I won't have to reach foranything, nothing, I just
hanging out, you know.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
Party of one.
George, party of one.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
Well, I just don't think everybody thinks're going
to live to be 100 and afterwardsit'll be a big party and it'll
be white clouds and you know,and you know dove, birds, and
it's like open bar.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
You'll see everybody you miss and your family, and
we'll all get together see, Idon't think I'm going to see
anybody, I think it's just goingto be really.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
Not even family.
Maybe they want to see you.
Ooh, what happens if it's theirdecision and not yours?
Speaker 3 (20:18):
Oh, we're going to talk about it.
If they do, we're going to sitdown at that table and we're
going to have a chit chat.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
They're going to stay on their cloud.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
My clouds are going to be pink.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
My elders are probably not going to be pink.
Really, you like pink, myelders?
Speaker 3 (20:29):
Not really.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
My elders.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
I would have loved.
For whatever reason, I think mycloud is going to be pink.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
There's a lot of questions I would have liked to
ask my.
You know my elders.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
I usually.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
I wonder I remember them saying that.
I wonder you know, and then youstart thinking, oh wow, I kind
of missed out on that.
I would have liked to know.
It's too late now, anyway, soyou can have a pink cloud, huh.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
I think so.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
But you don't like pink.
No Well, I guess that's good.
At least not white.
Everybody thinks white andlight.
You know light and stuff.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
Mine's going to be a nice hint of Fuchsia.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
How about fuchsia I?
Speaker 3 (21:07):
know what fuchsia is that's so bright.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
I know what fuchsia is.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
I do too.
She lives in the Bronx.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
A lot of men do not know what the color fuchsia is.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
That's because they need to get in touch with their
personals.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
No, you have to date a woman who likes fuchsia.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
Then you learn what fuchsia is you have to be in
tune with you.
Any man that's comfortable intheir manhood should know what
fuchsia is really you think so?
Speaker 2 (21:32):
absolutely okay yeah, it's a palette it's a palette
of color yes, it is of a ray ofcolor why does a man have to
know what fuchsia is?
Speaker 3 (21:44):
why shouldn't a man know what fuchsia is?
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Well, I mean, if he dates a woman that likes black,
that always dresses in black,then he probably would never
know what fuchsia is.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
That is a choice.
Sounds depressing.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Well, you know, it sounds, Some women are.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
I mean it sounds like the Adams family Well sounds,
some women are.
I mean it sounds like the uh,the adams family well, some
women are but, some women, youknow, I mean I don't want to go.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
I'm not saying full-on goth, but some women are
.
Some women do like black.
They wear a lot of black orbrown or some other color and
they're not into pink or fuchsia.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
So I mean, can't judge a man by his color palette
.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
Oh, but you can.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
Really Okay.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
No, you can judge for all the wrong reasons.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
Okay, you don't seem judgmental to me, though.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
Oh, I'm racist as fuck.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
No shit, but you know that was.
You're not judgmental, you'reobservant.
I'm extremely sarcastic.
Oh, I'm cynical.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
I know you don't know me that.
Well, I'll get out.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
I'm more sarcastic than anything.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
What's the difference between sarcastic and cynical?
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Ooh, sarcastic and cynical.
Probably a couple letters, Idon't know what.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
You're the smart one, I'm not.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
I asked you the question.
I told you I don't know, maybethe spelling that's about it, I
don't know.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
Cynical and sarcasm.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
A day of the week.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Really?
Yeah, no, I don't think so.
I beg to differ.
I beg to differ.
I mean I see sarcasm in a lotof things.
I like to joke around, I love Ihave a good, I have a, believe
it or not, I do have a goodsense of humor and I and like.
Sarcastic is one of my, like,my strongest traits.
(23:41):
But, um, cynical is no, I don'tthink I'm cynical I don't think
you're cynical.
Yeah, but I love beingsarcastic.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
I'm sarcastic as shit .
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Sarcasm is funny.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
It's so much fun, but some people can't embrace it.
They don't know how to take it.
They're offended by it.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Right.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
Texans are offended by sarcasm.
We've got a bunch of pussiesaround here.
Don't let them, don't judge usall.
We just talked about that.
I'll tell you something funny.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
I spent most of my time in the South.
You know the Carolinas,virginia, tennessee.
Texas Spent my adult life.
I left the Northeast when I wasin my teens and I remember
coming to Texas just as a joke.
Just as a joke, and I would seea Texas flag.
I'd go oh look, puerto Rican.
You know Puerto Rican flag,which was just nothing but
sarcasm it was a joke and peoplewould get so offended.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
We are very proud, I understand.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
Only state in the union US flag and the Texas
state flag flies at the sameheight.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
Only state in the union.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Salute to that.
I understand.
That's why I love this statevery.
Yeah, I feel very at home.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
Yeah, yes, I understand our pride and when it
comes to it was just an example.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
It was just an example, but I could give you
other examples are you watchingmy?
Speaker 3 (25:00):
it was a joke.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
It was a joke.
It's just sarcasm.
It's just like I was like oh,you know jokes and sarcasm are
two different things.
Can I tell you a joke Irecently wrote and I told my
wife this is a flag.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
No, it's about my wife.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
I wrote this joke and I told my wife this joke and
she didn't think it was funny.
In fact she didn't get it.
So I'm going to run it past you.
Tell me if this is funny.
All right, let's go.
Okay, so I have a girlfriendand she, and she thinks her wine
box is a kitchen appliance.
Come on, it's kind of funny,isn't it?
She didn't even get it.
She didn't think it was funny.
I appreciate that she thinksher wine box is a kitchen
(25:37):
appliance.
That is kind of funny huh, Iget it I totally get it.
Right on, I told you I'm a wino.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
That's why I told it, because I thought you would
enjoy it.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
Yeah, I totally get it yeah, so you can tell
somebody that joke and say anduse you as the punchline.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
I usually walk myself into my own punchline.
Yeah, I just kind of say, hey,you know what my wine box my
wine go hey, you know what mywine box is?
Speaker 2 (26:03):
my is a kitchen, for me is a kitchen appliance.
You can say that.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
I have a hat that I have been offered.
I think the last bid on thathat was $7,500.
And the hat it's not an actualbid, it's an offer.
Oh, an offer or whatever, yeah,no, it's not.
It's not for sale.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
It's your hat.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
It's my hat.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
Okay.
And it says I fuck the owner.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
Okay, I am the owner.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Okay, all right, congratulations.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
Exactly.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
You've climbed that mountain.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
More than once Was it good.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
Of course it was.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Right on, there you go.
Self-love is the best love.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
You're damn right.
It's like scratching that itchLook at that.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
You want to cheers again, don't you Look?
Speaker 3 (26:46):
Look at that speed.
You want to cheers again, don't?
Speaker 2 (26:47):
you Look, self-love is the best love it is.
If you don't love yourself, youcan't love anyone else.
Agreed, I had a hooker tell methat Really she got I was in
college.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
I was in college.
You must have scratched heritch.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
We did go on a date, but nothing happened.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
We know I'm not going to let that slide.
Yes, you can.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
But anyway she was, she had a daughter.
She had a daughter and peoplewould.
She told me people would get onher case about not paying
enough attention to her daughterand at the time she was trying
to get her life in a good spot,you know.
And um, and she said, and I'llnever, and I'll never forget
this either.
She said if you, if you're not,if you're not happy with
yourself, you can't make anybodyelse happy around you.
(27:28):
You know what I mean.
I mean if you're miserable withyourself, then you'll make you
know.
You know, obviously so, andthat's what you said and it kind
of stuck with me too.
So she was busy working on itand making herself a better
person, something that she likedyou know before she could
really kind of pass it on to herchild.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
So anyway, that's very valid.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
I agree with her, since we're talking about
self-love, so can't love anybodyuntil you love yourself.
I agree, I know that's the samething about death floating
around in your own thoughts.
That would be purgatory if youhated yourself.
Ooh, I shouldn't have done thatand I shouldn't have done this,
and I should have been betterto her and I should have been
better to him do you think thatI don't think that you should be
(28:14):
thinking about those momentswhen you die?
Speaker 3 (28:17):
I think you should be thinking about those moments
while you're still here yes, butsometimes we don't have time.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
We don't have time, but in eternity you have time.
But yes, we think about that,we think about it, you know.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
I do.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
I did something this past week.
I wish I didn't do and I'm notgoing to share it with you, but
I wish I didn't do and I've beenstruggling with the last few
days, but I was liquored up sodid you fix it?
No, and I thought, and then thenext day, I no, I'm not going
to fix it.
Why?
Because it wasn't that big of adeal and I don't want to
discuss it.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
But you don't have to , but it is a big deal if you're
still thinking about it.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
Yeah, it is, but it's personal.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
Most of them are.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
Well, I mean it's, it's my, you know it's my, you
know it's internal, it's in me.
Everything right it does.
Time heals everything.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
Does it?
Speaker 2 (29:08):
Yep, same thing with the ocean Salt water?
No, is it?
Salt water cures everything,whether it's sweat.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
Salt water burns.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
Salt water cures everything, whether it's sweat,
tears or the sea.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
Salt water stings.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
That's a quote.
Salt water cures everythingSweat, tears or the sea, but
time, time heals everything.
Time of the sea, but um time,time heals everything time lets
you get over a lot of things itdoes.
(29:41):
Yeah sure, death of a loved one.
After you know initially and Iin this book is that way too
initially my father passed away.
It's all about you know, oh mygod, you know chiming and then,
after years, go on, you thinkabout the good times you had
with that person, you know, andit's more positive than negative
and you accept it.
It's probably has something todo with the stages of grief, but
(30:02):
you accept it and you think ofthe positive things yeah be
positive.
So time heals a lot of things.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
It does.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
We live long enough and we're not taking our say it
dirt nap.
Yeah, say it.
Say it Dirt nap, dirt nap.
There you go.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
No, I'm not ready for my dirt nap, but if that was to
happen, I'd be, I'd be allright with it.
I'd be, I'd be all right withit.
Okay, I've had enough um kidsand people that have crossed my
(30:46):
path that still reach out to meto this day, that um tell me,
thank you.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
And that I will take that with I take it with me
every single day.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
Can I flip you a compliment?
You can flip me anything, aslong as it's not the bird?
Speaker 2 (30:55):
it's not, I would never do that, but I don't know
you, obviously, and we've we'vesat this the.
You know we sat down twicetogether now and unfortunately
it's been on camera.
But, um, I could see that yeahyou.
You are, you're a good person.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
Likewise.
You're a good person, so thebook.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
Not White Bread Good.
This is the first one, many tocome.
Can I read something on theback?
Speaker 2 (31:19):
Can.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
I read something on the back, please.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
For those who like to travel.
And it says right here, it sayshe shares moments from his life
, while in New York, maine,washington DC, taxa, dominica,
afghanistan, saudi Arabia, so itdoes kind of take a trip around
the world too, if you're intothat also.
(31:47):
Their settings vary, you know,and I don't know if I said I
probably skipped a line Florida,grand Bahama AT, so just a
bunch of different countries, abunch of different places.
So too, if you're like intotravel and adventure, life
lessons that's really the thrustof the book.
A little bit of poetry Don't beupset with that, because I
(32:10):
don't think it's that bad.
They're short pieces and thenquotes, and then some quotes
I've written over the years.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
I'm a quote person.
I love quotes.
So, why I am infatuated withthem.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
Have you read quote books before.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
All the time.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
Really Well.
There's quotes in both books.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
I send them to the girls on a regular basis.
I send them to the kids, I sendthem to yeah, I'm a huge quote
person.
It can change so much.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
So good enough is seldom good and never enough.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
Right on, I love that one.
I do too.
I got that from grandma.
Yes, that's so I got that fromgrandma.
Yes, that's so I got that fromgrandma, well, impressive work.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
Grant Ben Franklin Jr's Almanac Good enough is
seldom good and never enough.
Never settle for good enough.
He's good enough, she's goodenough, it's good enough.
Don't settle for that.
Don't settle for that.
Don't settle for that.
No, that's no way to live yourlife, no, yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
One thing that made me think and really realize
about settling and things that Iyou can, some people like him,
some people hate him.
It is what it is, but this isone thing that stuck and he took
um it, whatever theconversation was at this
particular time, because I'veseen him do it multiple times.
But in his show he took a rulerand spread it across the floor
and said do you realize how oldyou are right now?
(33:58):
and this person was 51, 52, 60,65, whatever that's middle age
uh-huh, most people don't livewhen we just we were talking
about it earlier past the age of70.
If you make it greatCongratulations.
Do you realize that you aredoing the bullshit that you are
fucking doing and that you areonly going to possibly be here
(34:21):
If God chooses that?
You will be here for possiblymaybe another 10 years, maybe
another five, maybe another 20,but you're on this portion of
that ruler until somebody wastalking about death.
Huh, yes, right on phil oh, Imean it's yeah and it and the
dash has been a a I've sent thekids.
(34:42):
They didn't know about the dashand and yeah, you, the dash
it's.
It's not when you got herenaked or when you leave naked,
in my case the dash in themiddle.
What did you do?
Speaker 2 (34:59):
the magic and mayhem.
It's not the dash, it's themagic and mayhem it's the I'll.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
I'll send you the dash, we're all born.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
that's how it starts for everyone, and we all die.
That's how it starts foreveryone, and we all die.
That's how it ends.
Yep, it's what you do with themiddle part.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
That's right, magic and mayhem?
Speaker 2 (35:14):
No, it's not.
It's called magic and mayhem.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
I think it's magic and mayhem.
Speaker 3 (35:18):
I think I like that.
I think it's crazy and it'smagical on a tombstone and I
hate the word, but and I can'tbelieve I just did that it's the
year you're born and it's theyear that you pass away, but
they always put the dash in themiddle and that's why it's
called the dash.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
That's why it's dash.
What's going to be on yourtombstone?
Are you going to put a quote onyour tombstone?
Speaker 3 (35:44):
Am I yeah?
Speaker 2 (35:46):
Have you thought about that?
I Am, I, yeah.
Have you thought about that?
I haven't.
I have not thought about thatno.
It's going to be.
You know, here lies.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
Tiffany, here lies a fucking shit show is what it's
going to say.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
I don't think so.
You wouldn't write that, wouldyou?
Speaker 3 (36:00):
I wouldn't, the kids would.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
No, they wouldn't write a shit show.
Speaker 3 (36:03):
They would.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
They'd probably love you to death.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
I love my kids but I love hard.
I'm a very what I telleverybody on the daily I love
you, I do.
I love big.
I think it's very important.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
Okay, love big.
Speaker 3 (36:24):
I do.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
I love very, very big you don't love small, you love
big I love very big, big and Iwill.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
I love very big, big and I will tell you Love huge, I
love big.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
I will say I love you big.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
I don't love small.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
I love huge, love you big.
I love you big.
Okay, yeah, I do.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
Right on yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
But I'll be.
I'm sure they feel it.
Speaker 3 (36:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
They're big, okay, right on, they do.
That's nice, that's flattering,that's you.
Speaker 3 (36:54):
I can see you doing that.
Mags and I were going on toHome Depot.
That was a fucking experience.
This guy on a Saturday with meat Home Depot and I'm the
project queen and whatever, asI've been told before.
But I love me some projects andI was building and I had my
notebook and all my things.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
I can imagine you causing a ruckus at Home Depot.
They don't think.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
I work there.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
No, they don't, and I don't know why.
No, they don't.
Speaker 3 (37:19):
Oh yeah, Believe me.
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
We're all on first name basis Miss, miss Yep.
Speaker 3 (37:24):
Anybody that walks in there?
What?
Speaker 2 (37:25):
aisle.
They need to go to what?
Speaker 3 (37:27):
bay they need to go to.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
I'm looking for this plumbing thing.
Yeah, from that person.
Oh yeah, Really I would neverapproach you.
Speaker 3 (37:33):
Poor shit.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
I wouldn't.
Speaker 3 (37:34):
Why.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
I just wouldn't.
I'd run the other way.
If I didn't know you, I'd runthe other way.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
Would you really?
I would never think you were a.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
Home Depot person.
Speaker 3 (37:49):
Holy, you're a Home Depot person.
Holy pickles.
I would never think you were aHome Depot worker.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
It is my favorite place in the entire world.
Speaker 3 (37:53):
Really it's the only time she'll go shopping.
That's the only time, oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
Your favorite place to go shopping Wow.
Speaker 3 (37:59):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
Mine would be a liquor store.
Speaker 3 (38:02):
Yeah, I got a couple of them.
I'll send you that.
I'd be a liquor store.
Support, support, support.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
I'd be a liquor store , it would be mine.
No, mine is definitely.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
Home Depot.
Speaker 2 (38:11):
Right on.
Speaker 3 (38:12):
But we're leaving Home Depot and you called your
mom right, or did she?
She was doing something.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
And someone asked you where the plywood was.
Speaker 3 (38:24):
Well, he's on the phone with his mom and they're
having a conversation orwhatever.
And he was like, okay, we'retrying to pull out of the gas
station because we went to twoor three and this one's on
negative E and we're on fumesand he still hadn't put any fuel
in his truck.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
Why do I not?
Why do I believe that?
Why do I believe that?
100% Okay.
So this setting.
Yes, I got the setting Okay.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
And so we're trying to ease through two, three lane,
four lane deal and he's on thephone and he hangs up and I said
you didn't tell her that youloved her.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
Yeah, it was pretty lame.
Speaker 3 (39:01):
He said okay, mom, I got to go.
Are you doing this Really?
That, yeah, it was pretty lame.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
He said okay, mom, I got to go.
Are you doing this Really?
Speaker 1 (39:04):
That's pretty lame.
Yeah, that's pretty lame I saidyou forgot.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
So you need to call her back right now and you need
to tell your mom you love her.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
You did not say, did he do it?
No Of course not, bossy woman.
I just wanted to get her celly,so I could just tell her that
we love you and we made itthrough and I did say we're
about to die in a four lanetraffic.
Speaker 3 (39:27):
Some families are not that way, because your son is
driving Some families are notthat way.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
Some families are not that way.
They're not that affectionate.
Speaker 3 (39:34):
My family was not my dad and my mom never.
Speaker 1 (39:40):
But your kids are.
Speaker 2 (39:41):
My kids every single one you can ask Nick.
Nick hears us never, but yourkids are my kids.
So every single one you can asknick, your family's affection,
your family's affection, hisfamily's not affection.
You can't hold them.
You can't hold them to the samestandard.
We can't.
Some families are not that way.
They're very standoffish.
Speaker 3 (39:53):
They're very standoffish my dad never told me
that he loved me until probablythe last year to two years.
He would say, and I wouldalways say I love you, dad, and
he'd be like, okay, bye.
Speaker 2 (40:07):
You didn't say I love you big.
I always say I love you big.
Do you say it to your dad,mm-hmm, I'd make you call him
back and say it.
Yep, but some families aren'tthat way, you know.
They just aren't, you know.
Speaker 3 (40:20):
I was not raised that way.
Speaker 2 (40:21):
My family was not affectionate at all, not at all.
Speaker 3 (40:25):
Not huggers, not at all.
I'm a hugger.
Speaker 2 (40:27):
Not at all, and I'm not, I'm really not a hugger,
you know, but I you know thething is, and I'd be honest with
you too.
Speaker 3 (40:32):
That's what.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
Max said Well, it's also has to do with respect.
Also, you know somebody else's,you know somebody.
It's not a call.
Eh, I understand that, Iunderstand that, I understand
that.
But I, because my the way I wasraised, yeah, I mean my family
didn't you know Right, wasn'tthat way, you know?
Speaker 3 (40:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:56):
I get it.
I would call up my mother onthe phone and every time I
called her up she couldn't waitto get off.
And you know it was like it wasalmost.
She thought it was the old dayswhen it was like really
expensive to make long distancephone calls and it's like it
doesn't cost
Speaker 3 (41:09):
it's not cost yeah, it's not costing me anything.
Speaker 2 (41:11):
Your cricket phone and she would just immediately
she immediately tried to get offthe phone as soon as I call up
you know that it was that youknow, that was my mom, you know,
but that's how it always was.
You know, and um, that was itmy mom, you know, but that's how
it always was you know, and um,that was it.
Speaker 3 (41:27):
My mom was never, never a hugger, never a toucher.
She's still here.
Yeah, yeah, no.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
And I respect that and I never tried to change her
to be that way.
No, I mean, that's just the wayit was and that's the way I was
.
I was like, okay.
Speaker 3 (41:40):
I just made sure I was never going to be that
person, that's fine and that'sfine.
Speaker 2 (41:43):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And I think other people changeyou.
You get away from home and thenyou meet people or date people
or get close to people that aredifferent, and you're saying,
wow, this is better.
Or you might think it's youdon't like it either, or you
think it's better and I want tobe different, and I want things
to be different in my life.
Speaker 3 (42:03):
Same.
Speaker 2 (42:04):
Yeah, right on, so that's cool.
Speaker 3 (42:05):
Yeah, yeah, that was a good time.
Thanks for coming to my sheshed.
Speaker 2 (42:09):
Oh well, thank you for inviting me again.
I can't believe that youinvited me back for a second
taping.
Speaker 3 (42:16):
We had so much more.
Speaker 2 (42:17):
I thought it's just the beginning of our
relationship, really, oh God,wait till you get to know me.
Speaker 3 (42:30):
Eventually there's going to be something there that
makes your brain snap andyou'll be like get out now, how
dare you.
You'll throw that whole glassof wine in my face.
No, first of all, I will never.
Never.
I'll wait till the glass isempty, but I'm not going to
throw the wine, so you break theempty glass over my head.
Speaker 2 (42:40):
Okay, so I'll correct that statement.
Yeah, yeah yeah, who are youagain Sorry.
I'm going to be out of town.
Speaker 3 (42:49):
Got a little wedding.
Speaker 2 (42:52):
The sun is in my eyes .
I tripped over a rock.
Speaker 1 (42:56):
There's an elephant in the room.
There's an elephant in the room.
Speaker 3 (42:58):
It's probably a camel or a zebra or something.
Speaker 2 (43:00):
Thank you, again for having me.
Speaker 3 (43:01):
I'm so glad you're here I'm so glad I'm here too.
Speaker 2 (43:04):
Really, it's better than being boring.
Speaker 3 (43:06):
Not white bread.
Speaker 2 (43:07):
Not white bread.
Speaker 3 (43:08):
yeah, it's not wheat, it's not white.
No, it's not.
It's not white bread.
It's not white bread, which isa slang term for not just every
day, it's a little different.
Get it, I ordered it.
Everybody else can too.
Speaker 2 (43:24):
If they want to, don't read it and fall asleep.
Speaker 1 (43:31):
Oh, I won't.
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