July 6, 2023 • 8 mins
In this episode, I give my take on the recent ASU+Summit in San Diego. I talk about who was at the Summit, but more importantly, Rant about who was not at the Summit.
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Eloy (00:09):
Hi, this is Eloy Ortiz Oakley, and welcome back to the
Rant.
The podcast where we pull backthe curtain and break down the
people, the policies, and thepolitics of our higher education
system.
In this episode, I give you mytake on my time at the April A S
U G S V summit, and on theconversations I had with some
really interesting innovatorsand people in the higher
(00:32):
education space that I ran intowhile I was there.
First, let me give a big thanksto my recent guest, Manny Smith
of Advisory Lee, who are doinggreat work to illuminate the
path from a community college toa four year university for
transfer students.
Pierre Dubuque of OpenClassrooms was bringing his team
(00:53):
skill and expertise to createbetter apprenticeship pathways
here in the United States.
Christine Cruz Vargara fromHandshake.
They're doing amazing work tobetter connect learners and
recent grads to their nextopportunity and Debra Wazo of
GSV Ventures.
Each of these guests sharedtheir amazing insights and
(01:16):
experiences.
They talked about their work andtheir passion and how they
experienced the ASU G S VSummit.
For me, the ASU G S V summit.
It is always a great time.
It's entertaining and I get torun into people I haven't seen
for a while.
It's also an interesting parade.
(01:36):
Of innovation and innovators,entrepreneurs, people hoping to
understand what's going on ineducation, technology, and
educators that are trulycommitted to extending the
promise of a post-secondaryeducation to more people of all
backgrounds through theleveraging of technology and of
course, There's always a handfulof brash peacocks who are
(02:02):
strutting around the ASU G S Vsummit and who want the audience
to think that they have all theanswers.
I think my guest, ChristineCruzar put it best when she said
that Ed tech needs to be ahealthy combination of people
who really understand educationand those who really understand
the technology.
I run into too many ed techfounders who have never managed
(02:24):
in a classroom and who suddenlyhave become experts in how to
solve the decades longchallenges that we face in
education and of course, ofeducating people of hugely
diverse backgrounds throughtheir novel technologies or so
they say.
The fact is that theseindividuals really have no clue
yet, and they're just learningon the go.
(02:46):
It's only when the worlds of edtech.
Pedagogy, professional educatorsand innovative post-secondary
leaders come together that wesee true examples of how great
innovation solutions can scaleand better serve learners.
In my conversation with DeborahQuavo, the co-founder of A S U G
(03:07):
S V, she put it clearly when shesaid that the purpose of the
summit has always been aboutmashing together.
All of these worlds bringingtogether talents and
perspectives to get the best oftechnology and education
innovation, and get it to worktogether to support greater
access to learning.
And speaking of mashing it up,my hat's off to under Secretary
(03:31):
James Qua from the Department ofEducation, along with his team
who came out to the summit andsat down with education,
technology entrepreneurs andfounders, venture capitalists,
and talked about.
The federal regulation they'reproposing.
I'm sure it wasn't always acomfortable experience for the
undersecretary and his team, butthis is the necessary part of
(03:54):
bringing together a marketplace.
The Department of Education andother federal regulators are
part of that marketplace, andthings only work best when we
have all voices at the table.
Some very hopeful that thisexperience helped James and his
team better under understand theeducation technology world and.
The education technology folksbetter understand the importance
(04:16):
of consumer protection.
Now for my ran while this summitis an amazing experience and it
opens your eyes to a lot ofdifferent innovations, and you
get to see the players that arereally focusing and investing in
technology.
The fact of the matter is mosttraditional educators in higher
(04:36):
education are not there.
I run into the same folks yearafter year.
The folks who are continuouslyinvesting in innovation and the
use of technology and educationdelivery.
We're talking about ArizonaState University, of course, and
places like Western GovernorsUniversity and Southern New
Hampshire University, universityof Maryland global campus.
(04:58):
They always have cadres of folksthere who are learning and
participating in theconversation.
But what's missing is you'remore traditional educators,
faculty and leaders fromcommunity colleges, four year
regional universities, and evenresearch one universities.
They're just not there in thenumbers.
We need to see'em there.
(05:19):
And although these inindividuals may have an aversion
to talking about the use oftechnology and education, the
fact of the matter remains.
That students, learners aredemanding more technology and
more flexibility in theireducation and are.
Leaders in these institutionsneed to be present to learn more
(05:42):
about what's happening becausethis is a marketplace.
A marketplace that is respondingto the demands of learners.
So while every solution andevery technology is not gonna
work in the way that it isassumed that it'll work, this is
a place where educators canlearn about what students are
demanding, what technologies areinteresting.
(06:05):
To learners, what technologiesare help helping to be more
engaged and then being able totranslate that back on their
campuses because Technologiesmoving forward, particularly
post pandemic learners, aredemanding more and more hybrid
opportunities, more and morepersonalized opportunities, and
this march towardpersonalization is going to
(06:26):
continue.
Technology is not going to slowdown, our educators, need to
find ways to better engage withwhat's happening in education
technology, even if they walkaway with one or two ideas on
how to better engage theirlearners.
That will make a world ofdifference in their classrooms.
So next year, 2024, I know myguest, Deborah Quavo talked
(06:51):
about having an expo that willinvite more educators to come in
and just see the technologythat's being created.
I hope.
Faculty, staff and leaders fromacross these institutions take
advantage, and I'll especiallypoint out my community college
colleagues.
You need to be at some of theseeducation technology forums.
(07:14):
You need to see how we canbetter engage our learners,
particularly our workinglearners, who need the support
of technology in order for themto have the kind of access.
And success that we want them tohave.
So that's my rank for today.
Thank you for joining us on thepodcast.
If you liked this podcast,continue to follow us on your
(07:34):
favorite podcast platform.
If you went to the summit, leaveme your comments, let me know
what you thought about thesummit or what you'd like to
hear more about.
If you're following us on thisYouTube channel, hit subscribe.
We need you to hit subscribe sowe can continue to deliver more
content, and I look forward toseeing you again soon.
We'll have some great guestscoming up.
Thanks for joining us, and we'llsee you soon
Hi, this is Eloy Ortiz Oakley, and welcome back to the
Rant.
The podcast where we pull backthe curtain and break down the
people, the policies, and thepolitics of our higher education
system.
In this episode, I give you mytake on my time at the April A S
U G S V summit, and on theconversations I had with some
really interesting innovatorsand people in the higher
(00:32):
education space that I ran intowhile I was there.
First, let me give a big thanksto my recent guest, Manny Smith
of Advisory Lee, who are doinggreat work to illuminate the
path from a community college toa four year university for
transfer students.
Pierre Dubuque of OpenClassrooms was bringing his team
(00:53):
skill and expertise to createbetter apprenticeship pathways
here in the United States.
Christine Cruz Vargara fromHandshake.
They're doing amazing work tobetter connect learners and
recent grads to their nextopportunity and Debra Wazo of
GSV Ventures.
Each of these guests sharedtheir amazing insights and
(01:16):
experiences.
They talked about their work andtheir passion and how they
experienced the ASU G S VSummit.
For me, the ASU G S V summit.
It is always a great time.
It's entertaining and I get torun into people I haven't seen
for a while.
It's also an interesting parade.
(01:36):
Of innovation and innovators,entrepreneurs, people hoping to
understand what's going on ineducation, technology, and
educators that are trulycommitted to extending the
promise of a post-secondaryeducation to more people of all
backgrounds through theleveraging of technology and of
course, There's always a handfulof brash peacocks who are
(02:02):
strutting around the ASU G S Vsummit and who want the audience
to think that they have all theanswers.
I think my guest, ChristineCruzar put it best when she said
that Ed tech needs to be ahealthy combination of people
who really understand educationand those who really understand
the technology.
I run into too many ed techfounders who have never managed
(02:24):
in a classroom and who suddenlyhave become experts in how to
solve the decades longchallenges that we face in
education and of course, ofeducating people of hugely
diverse backgrounds throughtheir novel technologies or so
they say.
The fact is that theseindividuals really have no clue
yet, and they're just learningon the go.
(02:46):
It's only when the worlds of edtech.
Pedagogy, professional educatorsand innovative post-secondary
leaders come together that wesee true examples of how great
innovation solutions can scaleand better serve learners.
In my conversation with DeborahQuavo, the co-founder of A S U G
(03:07):
S V, she put it clearly when shesaid that the purpose of the
summit has always been aboutmashing together.
All of these worlds bringingtogether talents and
perspectives to get the best oftechnology and education
innovation, and get it to worktogether to support greater
access to learning.
And speaking of mashing it up,my hat's off to under Secretary
(03:31):
James Qua from the Department ofEducation, along with his team
who came out to the summit andsat down with education,
technology entrepreneurs andfounders, venture capitalists,
and talked about.
The federal regulation they'reproposing.
I'm sure it wasn't always acomfortable experience for the
undersecretary and his team, butthis is the necessary part of
(03:54):
bringing together a marketplace.
The Department of Education andother federal regulators are
part of that marketplace, andthings only work best when we
have all voices at the table.
Some very hopeful that thisexperience helped James and his
team better under understand theeducation technology world and.
The education technology folksbetter understand the importance
(04:16):
of consumer protection.
Now for my ran while this summitis an amazing experience and it
opens your eyes to a lot ofdifferent innovations, and you
get to see the players that arereally focusing and investing in
technology.
The fact of the matter is mosttraditional educators in higher
(04:36):
education are not there.
I run into the same folks yearafter year.
The folks who are continuouslyinvesting in innovation and the
use of technology and educationdelivery.
We're talking about ArizonaState University, of course, and
places like Western GovernorsUniversity and Southern New
Hampshire University, universityof Maryland global campus.
(04:58):
They always have cadres of folksthere who are learning and
participating in theconversation.
But what's missing is you'remore traditional educators,
faculty and leaders fromcommunity colleges, four year
regional universities, and evenresearch one universities.
They're just not there in thenumbers.
We need to see'em there.
(05:19):
And although these inindividuals may have an aversion
to talking about the use oftechnology and education, the
fact of the matter remains.
That students, learners aredemanding more technology and
more flexibility in theireducation and are.
Leaders in these institutionsneed to be present to learn more
(05:42):
about what's happening becausethis is a marketplace.
A marketplace that is respondingto the demands of learners.
So while every solution andevery technology is not gonna
work in the way that it isassumed that it'll work, this is
a place where educators canlearn about what students are
demanding, what technologies areinteresting.
(06:05):
To learners, what technologiesare help helping to be more
engaged and then being able totranslate that back on their
campuses because Technologiesmoving forward, particularly
post pandemic learners, aredemanding more and more hybrid
opportunities, more and morepersonalized opportunities, and
this march towardpersonalization is going to
(06:26):
continue.
Technology is not going to slowdown, our educators, need to
find ways to better engage withwhat's happening in education
technology, even if they walkaway with one or two ideas on
how to better engage theirlearners.
That will make a world ofdifference in their classrooms.
So next year, 2024, I know myguest, Deborah Quavo talked
(06:51):
about having an expo that willinvite more educators to come in
and just see the technologythat's being created.
I hope.
Faculty, staff and leaders fromacross these institutions take
advantage, and I'll especiallypoint out my community college
colleagues.
You need to be at some of theseeducation technology forums.
(07:14):
You need to see how we canbetter engage our learners,
particularly our workinglearners, who need the support
of technology in order for themto have the kind of access.
And success that we want them tohave.
So that's my rank for today.
Thank you for joining us on thepodcast.
If you liked this podcast,continue to follow us on your
(07:34):
favorite podcast platform.
If you went to the summit, leaveme your comments, let me know
what you thought about thesummit or what you'd like to
hear more about.
If you're following us on thisYouTube channel, hit subscribe.
We need you to hit subscribe sowe can continue to deliver more
content, and I look forward toseeing you again soon.
We'll have some great guestscoming up.
Thanks for joining us, and we'llsee you soon
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