December 12, 2024 • 39 mins
Robyn Engelson's journey from the high-paced marketing world to becoming a wellness coach is inspiring.
Her transformative story includes overcoming severe health challenges and reshaping her life through nutrition, exercise, and mindset.
As my guest on this episode of the Real You Podcast, Robyn shares her path to regaining control over her health and how this led her to empower others, particularly corporate executives and entrepreneurs, with personalized wellness strategies.
A significant part of Robyn's journey involves healing from childhood trauma, a process she embarked on with the help of a life coach. By confronting past experiences and understanding triggers, she learned to reframe her narrative, which drastically improved her personal and professional interactions.
Robyn emphasizes the importance of authenticity and self-improvement, shedding light on the liberating power of being true to oneself and the value of meaningful connections.
As Robyn gears up for the release of her book, "Exhausted to Energized: 90 Days to Your Best Self," she gives us a peek into her systematic approach to overcoming chronic exhaustion.
Throughout this episode, we explore her unique coaching program, which focuses on nutrition, fitness, mindset, and accountability.
Whether you're looking to boost productivity or find your authentic self, Robyn's insights offer a roadmap to a more empowered and fulfilling life.
Contact Robyn here:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/robynengelson/
https://robynengelson.com/
David's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-young-mba-indy/
David's Website: https://davidjyoung.me/
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome to the Real you Podcast.
I'm your host, David Young, andthis is episode number 24.
This podcast discusses tappinginto your full potential and
finding ways to be the truestversion of yourself.
Today, I'm joined by RobinEngelson, a coach, wellness
enthusiast and fellow lover ofthe sun, water and dogs, and we
will discuss her journey, howshe got in to and why she loves
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coaching.
She also has a podcast and thelessons she's learned along the
way.
So, Robin, I really appreciateyour time.
Thanks for carving out time forme today.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Absolutely.
Thank you for having me, David.
I'm excited to dive in.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Yeah, for sure.
So we just recently got hookedup on LinkedIn I think in the
last month or two and we had aquick conversation a couple
weeks ago and so, yeah, soyou're going to come on my show,
I'm going to come on yours, andit'll be a great kind of
exchange of backgrounds andideas.
So, yeah, really lookingforward to it.
So let's get started.
I know you do kind of healthand wellness coaching for
corporate leaders, but if youkind of go back, what did you do
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after college?
What did you think you wantedto do in terms of work, and then
kind of, how did that lead youinto eventually?
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Absolutely Such a great question.
I mean, yes, we did just meet afew months ago, so this is
great to be able to help eachother and collaborate and share
with our audiences.
So thank you for that.
Yeah, so I always wanted to bein marketing and advertising and
also helping people right.
So I have a business degree inmarketing with a minor in
sociology, so combining the bothof them.
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When I graduated college, I wentstraight to an ad agency
because I was taught through mymentors and through my
internships that you got to dothe agency side first and then
you go outside the agency to domarketing at a firm and or
advertising, because then youhave the understanding of what
happens in that field and whatpeople are going through.
So I did that and it didn'twork out.
It's not exactly what I thoughtit was going to be.
As some people may know,advertising is cutthroat.
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It's a certain type of personand I love advertising and I
love sales.
But being in an ad agencywasn't for me.
So when I took those lessonsright, because we always learn
the lessons, it's always thelessons that we take to move
forward in our lives.
So I took that and I went onthe marketing side and I
absolutely loved it and I wasable to help people because I
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went to the nonprofit side anddoing marketing and sales and
advertising and I found thatcombining all of that really
helped me be the best version ofmyself because I was helping
people, mission-based and frommy heart I always say it's my
heart work and then I was doingmarketing and advertising and it
was just so much fun.
And then I realized thatworking for somebody else is
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never going to get me where Iwant to be right, because I'm
never going to be able toelevate to the levels that I'm
capable of.
So I did that for a short stintmaybe about five years Got
great experience, had greatmentors and I went off on my own
at 27.
And I've been an entrepreneurfor 20 years.
So now you can all guess my age.
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But with all of that comes alot of experience, a lot of
trial and error.
I had my own ad agency andmarketing consulting business
that I absolutely loved servingnonprofits, and it really was a
way for me again to serve mymission with my heart, work but
really help bring the bottomline up for people so if they
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weren't doing well or theydidn't understand it, just
really helping themcollaboratively as a team.
Even though I was a consultant,I was part of their team and
helping with their bottom lineand that was really important to
me because I was helping peoplewithin their nonprofit and also
helping the people that I workwith and helping myself right,
because we all, we want to bethe best version of ourselves.
And then after that, after youknow a couple of years in
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whatnot, and then somethinghappened for me which was life
changing not life threatening,thank goodness, but I got
diagnosed with an autoimmunedisease called Hashimoto's,
which is a thyroid autoimmunedisease, and after I got
diagnosed I got sicker andsicker and sicker, right.
So I got diagnosed after I hadmy first child, which is very
common for women in their 30s,and I got sicker and sicker from
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the medication and I had tostop working, closed up shop,
couldn't take care of my toddler, was in a brain fog, couldn't
get out of bed, sleeping 10 to12 hours a night, body aches,
hair falling out, nails breaking, like it was just.
I was a mess.
And I kept thinking, david,like is this my life?
Like how can this be my life?
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Right.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
So I just, I just want people that are listening
right now to really understandthat life happens, but it
doesn't mean it's the end ofyour life because you're still
living, Even though in thatmoment I thought I was existing
and not living Right.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Yeah, that's really powerful.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Thank you.
And from that it was a two anda half year journey of figuring
out what doctors to go to,doctors telling me I was fine,
my blood work was fine with themedication, but I was having
heart palpitations, anxietyattacks, wasn't sleeping, I was
miserable.
And then I figured out you knowwhat, if it's meant to be, it's
up to me.
And I figured out my nutritionfor my autoimmune disease,
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figured out my workouts andexercise for my autoimmune
disease, figured out my mindsetbeing a model of positive change
, going from negative imagery topositive imagery and really
just finding accountability,partners and mentors that had
what I wanted, that are like oneor two, three steps ahead of
where I want to be personallyand professionally.
And my whole life changed.
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And because of that, peoplestarted asking what I was doing.
I always thought I'd go back tomarketing and advertising and
sales, because that's what Iknew and that's what I loved.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Right.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
But I started helping people, neighbors, friends just
feel better.
Everyone's exhausted, right,everyone's exhausted Things
going on with you're a mom,you're a dad, you're a working
mom, working dad, you're working, you're, whatever it is sister,
brother, life happens, and so Ifigured out a simple way,
through nutrition, fitness andmindset, with accountability, to
help change the trajectory ofpeople's lives to be the best
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versions of themselves.
And that's what I've been doingfor the past 12 years with my
coaching business and I bring inmy marketing and my advertising
knowledge and businessbackground to be able to grow my
business but yet still stayheart-centered, because it's my
heart.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Yeah, I love the way you've been able to tie it all
in.
That's not easy to do,especially when you go out on
your own, to be able to takewhat you're really interested in
and passionate about and thenalso tie it into your previous
work experience.
Right, that's not an easy blend.
Something I'm struggling withand I think a lot of people that
go out on their own is tryingto figure out how do I match,
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how do I marry these all thesetogether.
So I love that it kind of cametogether for you.
It took obviously some somenegative to get there and some,
you know, trial and error andturbulence and, um, you know,
I'm sure, a lot of dark kind ofdark periods, but I I applaud
you for like coming out of it,using it, you know, kind of as
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fuel to like, like you said,figure it out and take steps.
And I'm sure there was a lot oflike experimentation with,
especially with like foods andrecipes and like different types
of eating and like what washelping and what wasn't.
So, yeah, that's really, it'sreally fascinating.
I wonder what?
What do you think was thebiggest?
You're talking about thatmindset shift from negative to
positive imagery?
Was that something that youread about that, you studied
when did that, I guess, comefrom and what steps did you take
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or what tools did you use tomake that shift?
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Absolutely.
That's a great question.
So every great coach has acoach, and so I had a life coach
who became one of my bestfriends.
That's not normal, that's justwhat happened because, bonded,
or my life coach knew she knowsmore about me and my inner life
and secrets than anybody in mywhole life.
Right, because in order toovercome something, you got to
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dig in, you got to do the work.
So I worked with a life coachand we did.
You know, we, we work and thisis how I coach.
Also, that how we feel now isbecause we are a product of our
childhood.
So whatever happened in ourchildhood is what is appearing
and occurring and happening inthe now.
But we get to redefine ourstory, refine, redefine, however
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you look at that, reframe ourstory now so our past doesn't
have to be our present, right?
So, for example, negativeimagery something happened in
childhood.
Maybe there was trauma, maybethere was abuse, maybe there was
just neglect, maybe there's somany different things that it
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could be right Just givingexamples here.
That's a negative image that youhave in your mind.
And then there's triggershappen in your life now as an
adult that bring up the past.
So in order to overcome thatand be positive and have a happy
image.
We get to do the work inbetween in order to overcome the
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obstacles and the negativityand, slowly but surely, over
time, when you do the work andyou do the exercises and you cry
your brains out, when you, youknow, feel your deepest, darkest
moments, like you said, david,that's when.
That's when you and yes, I dohave a dog and, yes, super
friendly, I promise we knew thedog.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
We knew the dog was coming.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
He's just the cutie pie greeting everybody at the
door.
So once we have that negativeimagery, we know the triggers
and we do the work to overcomeit, then triggers become
non-triggers.
They don't trigger you becauseyou have a image.
So, for example, let me give anexample so listeners can
understand what I'm talkingabout.
So, for example, maybe someonegrowing up, when you were a
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child, you were never allowed tospeak.
Everyone talked over you, butthere was one person that
overpowered everything andreally just did the talking for
you.
So you really had no idea howyou felt, what your emotions
were.
You never had an opinionbecause you weren't able to talk
right, you were just shunned.
As an adult, you could be in acorporate meeting and not feel
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comfortable speaking up youropinions or adding value to the
conversation or the project,because you have a fear of
someone in the room.
That is triggering you and it'sthe same trigger that you had
when you were a child.
But when you do the work to knowthat it had nothing to do with
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you and that it has everythingto do with that other person,
and then probably havingchildhood trauma also and not
being heard right and having toshow their point and make
themselves heard as an adult.
Once you realize that, thenwhen you're in that meeting, you
know that there are otherpeople there and people may have
louder voices or softer voices.
Your voice matters and you getup and you get to speak and your
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colleagues value your opinionso that in the value you add to
that project or the conversation.
So that's how you go fromnegative imagery to positive
imagery.
It takes time, right, david, isnot overnight work, but it
takes time.
You can change over time if youchoose.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Did you use methods like my therapist uses, like a
tapping method and I knowthere's different types of like
tapping, where you can take,like what you're talking about.
You know, negative childhoodexperiences and through tapping
you can kind of lessen theireffect on you.
Did you use anything like that?
Or like did you have othertechniques that your life coach
worked with you, or was itsimply just like talking through
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them and identifying them?
Speaker 2 (11:13):
It was the latter of what you said.
I didn't use tapping, it wasmore talking through and really
just getting out is when youvoice something and you talk out
loud you're able to rid it fromyour body so energetically.
Getting it out allows you tonot hold it in, because so many
times we're weighed down on ourshoulders and it weighs on our
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head and a lot of times maybepeople get migraines.
Right, there's, there's areason why you're getting the
migraine from the buildup, fromthe stress, right, everything
just culminates in that state.
So it was really just talkingthings through and speaking my
voice, because I never got to orin that situation, right, I was
just talking it out and thenrealizing what happened was not
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my fault.
It wasn't my fault, right, andit's okay as an adult, to speak.
It's okay for an, as an adult,to have interactions with other
people and voice your opinionand not be afraid of what
they're going to speak.
It's okay for an, as an adult,to have interactions with other
people and voice your opinionand not be afraid of what
they're going to say.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
No, I love that Is it .
Did you find, excuse me, inyour experience where, like the
adult triggers with thechildhood memories and imagery
and you're you're working withyour life coach and you're
talking through it Did you findthat it took?
How many times did you need toget triggered to have that
situation come up as an adult towhere you were able to then not
have it affect you?
Did you notice a pattern likeon the fifth time or the 10th
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time, or was it one time becauseyou talked about it or was
there?
It would take years.
How long did you feel like theprocess of talking through it
and having it happen?
Were you then able to not letit have that effect on you?
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Yeah, so that's a good question as well.
I don't know an exact numberper se, but I can tell you it
took about a year, okay.
So what happens is you workthrough it and you feel good
about it when you're beingcoached on, but then, when you
actually have that situation inthe moment, in the now, as an
adult, it takes a lot ofwillpower, and I call it gut
strength, in order to be able touse the positive imagery and
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speak up in that moment.
Right so, and a lot of times itwould be like on the tip of the
tongue and you want to saysomething, but it wasn't the
right time for you or the rightspace or the right environment.
So it takes time and it'sworking through that process in
order to be okay in thosesituations.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Yeah, that makes sense.
And so what you do with yourclients, would you say it's kind
of an extension of lifecoaching?
It sounds like it's kind of ahybrid right Like you're doing
wellness, you're doing mindset,you might be doing some life,
maybe career.
It seems like it's a kind of amulti-point way.
How would you describe yourcoaching to someone that didn't
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know?
Speaker 2 (13:57):
what you did?
Yeah, absolutely so.
It definitely is my uniqueprogram.
Right?
It's my method that I createdbased on my experiences.
So I'm a life coach who helpscorporate executives and
entrepreneurs be the bestversion of themselves through
nutrition, fitness, mindset andaccountability.
And then within those, the fourpillars of my program, we work
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in depth in those four pillars.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Okay, yeah, okay.
And then is your process whereyou meet with them, kind of
identify, like kind of what theyhave going on, and then you
tailor it, or do you kind ofhave a okay, so you tailor it
based on their, like, currentexperience and needs nutrition.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Some people need more mindset, some people need more
accountability to get thingsdone and follow through, you
know, or exercise whatever theirspecific needs are, and they
share with me their goals andwhat they want to do and
accomplish with our timetogether.
And then it's customized basedon that right.
I customize it.
And then there's also a VIP day, so that's a one day intensive,
so there's not one-on-onecoaching, but there's a strategy
call at the beginning of theday and then I create a video at
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the end of the day and I sendthem the deliverables within
nutrition, fitness, mindset andaccountability, based on the
strategy session that we had andthe outcome they want to
achieve.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
Okay, I like the flexibility in those two.
On the one-on-ones, typicallyhow long are those engagements?
Speaker 2 (15:24):
They're 45-minute sessions.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Okay, and then for like three months, six months a
year, like how long?
Speaker 2 (15:30):
It's a 12-month commitment for a week, and then
you can renew as well, whichmost clients do, because in 12
weeks we can get through a lot.
We really can't 90 days, toyour best self, right.
But there's a lot of deeperinner work.
That happens sometimes, thatclients want to dig deeper in,
so we continue, but initiallyit's a 12-week.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
I like that because I think I've seen examples of
people who do similar to whatyou're describing a three-month
weekly.
So it's pretty regular touchpoints and I've seen a lot of
progress made.
But then as soon as the coachfalls off, then it's like a slow
.
I see this kind of slow decline, kind of back to like where
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they were before Maybe not likeall the way back, but it's hard.
Especially people that needbecause, like some people like
myself, I'm wired to do thingsfor myself internally and
externally, but not everybody'slike that right.
Some people need that externalaccountability, whether it's a
coach or a friend to work outwith or whatever.
And so I think for those peoplethat's really where I'm glad
you offer that extension,because I think people like you
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said, it just takes longer,especially depending on where
your baseline is, like how muchwork you need, right, like
sometimes it's a lot, likeyou're not close on any of the
pillars.
Three months is just simply notenough time to get there.
So I love the offer andextension because I think a lot
of people probably would do andbenefit from the extra time.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Absolutely, and I also create toolkits for my
clients too.
So to that point they want tocontinue, great, we can continue
building that toolkit.
But if they want to try after12 weeks, to go off on their own
and use the tools that wecreated in their toolkit,
they're able to do that as well,and then always come back.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
No, I love that.
And then I know a lot of yourposts and it's on your LinkedIn
profile.
You talk about your proteinrecipes.
Does that kind of stem fromwhen you were doing the
experimentation with the foodsto try to figure out how to help
yourself feel your best?
Does it come from that?
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Absolutely, because I've always been an athlete, but
I wasn't feeling my body for anautoimmune disease, so it's
very different, and so I learnedthrough nutrition that food is
fuel and food is medicine andyou can really.
You can retrain your metabolism, you can increase your energy.
You can do so many things withfood.
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So what I started to do is Ilove to bake.
I'm a phenomenal baker, so Istarted to just swap out
ingredients and just trial anderror, like what tasted good,
what didn't?
How did I feel A lot of it?
Go on how I feel right and howmy clients feel.
So, oh my gosh, my chocolatechip protein cookies are amazing
.
They're so freaking good.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
I gotta start sending care packages out.
I'm telling you like they're sogood and they're so simple and
they're high protein.
They're five frees.
So I say they're high protein,but they're gluten-free,
dairy-free, grain-free,anti-inflammatory-free, refined
sugar-free, and those are thefive frees that most people
whether you have an autoimmunedisease or not like really need
to be catering their nutritionto, because that's how you feel
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about it, right, and you need acertain amount of protein
throughout the day in order toachieve your goals.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
Yeah, and I think I hired a nutrition coach back in
November.
I'd gotten COVID for the secondtime in 15 months and I was
really pissed about that.
So I was like, all right, Iwant to make some changes.
So I hired him and we worked onit.
It was similar to what you'retalking about.
We kind of tweaked what I waseating and kind of working out
and exercising is usually not aproblem for me because I'm
usually training for some kindof race but just dialing that in
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and just yeah, for some kind ofrace, but just dialing that in
and just yeah.
So, but what triggered that?
When you mentioned that is, Iremember he told me that you can
actually consume, if I rememberthis correctly, one gram of
protein for every pound.
So, like a lot of times you'llhear like, oh, you only need
like 50 or 60 grams of protein,right?
Um, and he was like that's notenough for most people, and
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especially if you're like reallyactive.
So he was like you, most peoplewon't get to their weight like
in grams of protein per day.
But he's like you actually havea much like larger window of
protein to consume.
And then like the more activeyou are and the more intense.
Your training is the closer youneed to get to the protein.
I thought it was reallyinteresting.
So I think it's a little bit oflike almost like societal
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misinformation, where you think,oh, I only need, like this
small amount, when in reality,like you said, to feel your best
and to fuel yourself best, youreally probably need more.
You're probably not gettingenough.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
Most people don't get enough at all.
That's spot on.
And people don't understandnutrition and they go to their
doctors for nutrition advice,which is the worst thing you can
do, because doctors are trainedin the medical field, not in
the nutrition field, so theyhave no clue, no idea, and they
can't help you.
And you're correct about thenutrition as far as the protein
grows with the grams of protein.
And most people also think thatthe less you eat, the more
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you're going to lose weight andthe more muscle you're going to
get, and that's absolutelyincorrect.
It's completely false.
You need to be eatingconstantly through the day,
right To fill your body so youincrease your metabolism and you
don't get your glucose to dip,because when your glucose, blood
sugar levels dip, that's whenyou actually create fat.
And so you think you're eatingless and being healthy, where in
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fact you just did this hardworkout and you didn't eat
before and you're not eatingafter until like three hours,
your whole workout.
You're not reaping the benefitsof it, so you're not gaining
anything from it.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
Yeah, I eat like every 90 minutes or two hours.
It drives my wife crazy.
She's like I don't know how canyou be hungry?
And I'm like, oh, I was hungryafter I ate.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
I know I'm already done in three hours.
I was at the nail salon theother day and I brought my food
with me because I'm like I'mgoing to have to eat in the
middle and if I don't eat thenI'm going to crash and it's not
worth it, right?
And the lady's like man, isthat your breakfast?
I was like, no, this is my.
I don't even know what to callit.
It's my snack.
I'm wearing a snack.
I already had breakfast threehours.
She's like what?
I'm like, yeah, every threehours.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Yeah, I've already had two breakfasts.
This is my post-secondbreakfast snack before lunch.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Yep, I hear you.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Yeah, no, I'm always planning like four or five
whether it's meals or snacksahead.
If we're going to go to thefields for games and stuff, it's
like all right.
How much food do I need?
Speaker 2 (21:39):
to get myself.
I'm like, what size cooler orpurse do I need to bring today?
Speaker 1 (21:43):
Right yeah, that's exactly, that's it.
Yeah, I love it.
I love that.
I mean, I love that.
Are you familiar with Rich Roll?
It sounds like you would reallydig on Rich Roll stuff.
Do you know who Rich Roll is?
Speaker 2 (21:55):
I do not Tell me more .
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Yeah, so you should check him out.
So he really kind of changedthe trajectory of my life a
little bit.
So he now is a famous podcaster, but about 15, 10 to 15 years
ago he was out of shape.
He was a lawyer, he wasdrinking too much, poor diet,
and he ended up writing a bookabout it.
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So he just one day was tryingto walk up his stairs and got
out of breath and just had thisepiphany.
It was like is like I can'tlive this way, right, and so he
completely like overhauled hislife.
He went completely plant-basedand then he ended up doing all
of these like ultra endurance,triathlons and and beyond even
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just a traditional triathlon andall this stuff anyway.
So he ended up writing a bookand then now has become like a
plant-based, you know, thoughtleader and he's done like 800
episodes of his podcast andspeaker and he just completely
overhauled his life and he quitdrinking and all this stuff.
But a lot of it is talking aboutlike how food, like what he
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really experienced is that whenhe shifted to the plant based
eating and not that you have togo plant based, but just in
using food as fuel when heshifted to the plant-based
eating and not, that you have togo plant-based, but just in
using food as fuel when he wasreally doing these ultra intense
training sessions and theseraces, and just how important it
was like that correlationbetween what he was consuming
and when he really started topay more attention to what he
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was consuming and just like theeffect on the body and, like you
said, inflammation and illnessand energy like all this kind of
stuff.
But, yeah, you should, youshould check him out.
He's easy to find.
Uh, he's got at least one book,if not two, and he's got, you
know, the big kind of thebiggest names you know in
podcasts have been on the show.
So really interesting guy andinteresting story.
But it reminds me in talkingabout just exercise and fuel and
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food and energy and how it allworks together.
So you have a book coming, so Iwant to say one thing about
that too.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
It's a really good point that you made, david, and
so many people, especially thatI work with a lot of corporate
executives and entrepreneurs.
Like corporate executives,they're typically at their desk
all day and they're on thecomputer, or entrepreneurs are
on their phones all day, right,and there's a correlation
between your productivity andyour exercise and productivity
and your nutrition.
And then productivity andcombined exercise and nutrition,
(24:12):
right.
And so and I post a lot onLinkedIn about you know movement
is medicine and food is food,like what you just said.
And so, to that point, the moreactive you have in the routine
work, the more disciplined youare with your nutrition and your
fitness, the higherproductivity that you're going
to have in the workplace, and sothere's a direct correlation.
That's really important tomention, because a lot of times
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people think, well, I just workharder.
No, you got to work smarter,not harder.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Yeah, for sure, it's the whole.
Yeah, focusing on the importanttask and to make sure you're
doing those.
You're just not trying to doeverything, and it's easier for
me and probably for you likeworking out of the house with
the dogs and I have a dog too,so he gets me out of the house a
lot, which is nice because youhave those built-in walk breaks.
And then I do a lot of runningand training, so the movement
part's a little bit easier, butthat's because I'm at the house.
(24:59):
If I was at the office it wouldbe harder.
But still, even when I wasworking in an office I would
still get up and walk thehallways, or I'd go walk out to
my car and walk back, orwhatever.
I just can't sit for thosereally long stretches.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
I'm taking the elevator, You're going up one
floor.
Take the stairs.
What are you doing?
I was known for the one thatwas like run around the office
Literally.
I was like the fastest walkerfrom office to office.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
Yeah, I love it.
I was the same way.
I didn't like elevators andyeah anyway.
So you have a book coming outin about what?
Two?
A little over two months, twoand a half months and is that
kind of a culmination of yourexperience?
Kind of just talk about thegenesis of the book and kind of
how you went through writing it.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
Sure, so thank you for asking.
I'm super excited.
It's one of those lifetimegoals that most people don't
accomplish and I'm proud to saythat I did accomplish that.
My book, exhausted to Energized90 Days to your Best Self, is
available on Amazon November12th, which is the day after my
(26:03):
birthday.
So that's super special, yeah,super excited.
And so basically the book reallywalks you through exhausted
state to hope state, to the workstate to energized state.
So it's the four phases, justlike I have four pillars in my
program for coaching, and itreally gives live examples.
I have stories in there.
They're real stories that Iexperienced and how I overcame
(26:25):
my autoimmunity, how I overcameall the other tribulations with
exhaustion and my nutrition andmy fitness and everything that
goes into living life to thefullest and being your best self
.
And it really gives hope forpeople that are completely
exhausted whether you're burntout, you have chronic illness,
you have pain, wherever you arein your journey that just trust
(26:48):
the process.
And in my book there areactivities called heartwork, for
about half, about half of thepages have them and really that
is the work that you get to doin order to overcome whatever
you're going through, becausenothing changes if nothing
changes and it really just givesjoy and happiness to you and
also the people around you,because you affect everybody
(27:09):
that you're around but, moreimportantly, yourself.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
No, I love that.
Had you been thinking about itfor a while and then you finally
did it?
Or did you just kind of justsay like, okay, I'm writing a
book.
Okay, so you've been thinkingabout it for?
Speaker 2 (27:20):
a while?
That's a good question too, soI've been thinking about it.
It's been in my head for aboutfive years two to five years,
the last two years, definitelyand then what happened is is now
that I'm more active onLinkedIn, I started connecting
with a lot of people that hadjust published books and written
books and self-published andworked with coaches and whatnot,
and so I always find thatthat's a sign when you put
(27:41):
something out to the universe,it comes back to you, right?
So it was my sign to getconnected with my coach that
helped me, from start to finish,really put my ideas and
thoughts into the book and howto organize it, and so it took
me about 90 days to write thebook from start to finish and
(28:04):
then went through editing, whichwas about another month, month
and a half and yeah, then thedesigner, the layout and so yeah
, and then there's all themarketing and sales and
promotions and plans and all ofthat on the back end.
It's really the full cycleprocess and if anyone's thinking
about it, go for it, becauseyou really have no idea how much
it will change your life andhow you look at things and
(28:26):
really see how much you've done,how much you've accomplished
and the impact you've made on it.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
That's funny.
I've had people tell me Ishould write a book and I'm like
I don't who would read that?
It would be so boring, whywould I?
Speaker 2 (28:38):
I don't know if it would be boring.
You have to like fill it out,give like a great draft or some
idea, concept and cut that forpeople.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
What did you?
So that's a short, I feel like,in my opinion, and I don't know
much about the book writingprocess, but 90 days to write a
book seems like a short periodof time, so did you have a
pretty yeah.
So did you have a?
I'm assuming you had a veryrigid or a pretty strict writing
process, like write every dayat the same time, or you just
time blocked an afternoon.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
Yeah, so there was a schedule and I blocked off time.
But how you do anything is howyou do everything in life, and
so what happened was I'd have adeadline for my coach, a certain
part had to be done so we couldreview it and stuff, and the
(29:26):
deadline was coming up and I hadmissed the scheduled times.
And life happens right.
And so I would just sit downand I would just write and I
didn't even know how much timewent by.
I would just write until I wascontent and until I knew that
that was it for the day, andthen I'd get everything done by
my deadline.
But it was really more.
I am a super disciplined person.
I'm not that you have to bedisciplined to write a book, but
(29:48):
I know if I have a deadline I'mgoing to deliver, no matter how
I'm going to get there.
And so, yes, 90 days is a shortamount of time, but I knew it
was attainable because I havegoals of when I wanted it
published and when I wanted tohave it out to people in the
messaging to help them withtheir lives.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
I love that.
What have you enjoyed?
I assume you have, because youhave the background in marketing
, sales and advertising.
So have you enjoyed this kindof next phase of starting to
promote it and, like you said,the book cover and then doing
press for the book?
To me I've never done bookmarketing or book advertising or
book PR.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
So it's great because I'm learning a new skill that I
put in my toolkit, that I canhelp someone else sometime next
time I do that.
And so it is really fun.
It's overwhelming because Idon't know what I'm doing.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
I'll be real.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
I'm a real person.
My client tells me my clientshe's great and she's like Robin
, you are just as advertised,even better, like.
I am so real.
But you get the real deal.
There's nothing fake on socialmedia.
There's nothing fake when youtalk to me.
But I'm loving the processbecause I always trust the
process and enjoy the journey,and sometimes I have to take my
own advice right Because I'mlike, oh my gosh, I can make a
(31:06):
deadline or I don't know what towrite or this and that.
But if you just really sit downand really be with yourself and
use the tools you already havein the toolbox, you're amazing.
You have all the gifts that youneed.
And so, yes, I am enjoying theprocess.
It's super fun and I'm justreally excited to have that copy
in my hand and out to as manypeople as possible to help
(31:26):
change the trajectory of theirlives.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
No, I love that.
Talk a little bit about yourpodcast.
You've had it, I think, for notquite a year.
Is that all kind of tied in, Iassume, to the health wellness
movement Like?
Speaker 2 (31:40):
it's all.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
R-related yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
Well, my podcast is called the Robin Engelson
Podcast and it's about life,similar to what your podcast is,
I think, david as well.
Right, and so it's related tonutrition, fitness, mindset and
accountability my four pillars.
I'm going from energized sorry,excuse me, going from exhausted
to become energized 90 Days toyour Best Self the name of my
(32:03):
book and so I interview a lot ofdifferent people in different
phases of their lives corporateexecutives, entrepreneurs,
nutritionists, fitness coaches,life coaches.
So really it's about life andjust being the best version of
yourself and the tools andaction that you need to take in
order to get there.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
No, I love that, that's right.
Like you said, that's right upmy alley and, honestly, when I
started this show, which I'vebeen thinking about for years,
and the limiting beliefs andfear and putting yourself out
there and all that kind ofstopped me from doing it.
And then, kind of once Istarted on this you know,
linkedin content, journey andyou know, kind of moving to
doing this full time it seemedlike if I was ever going to do
it it was going to be now.
(32:42):
But yeah, I'm really fascinatedwith, like our evolution as we
go through life, age, mature,you know, like you said, the
lived experiences, the ups anddowns which will happen to all
of us throughout life, and thenlike how we come out of that,
what we learn, and then we startto.
I feel like if we're doing it,you know, if we're moving
(33:02):
forward, then we're becomingbetter versions of ourselves
through all of that, all ofthose experiences which we can
then help others and it's.
But when I was was younger, Ididn't do that and I felt like I
wore a lot of masks and wasn'tkind of my true self and you
know, I've like somebody, youknow, with different parts of
family and school and friends,and then in work, like I was
(33:23):
kind of always not thoseversions of myself right.
In some ways it almost feltlike acting at times because you
felt like I felt like I had todo that to fit in or to not get
attention or whatever.
But then as you get older andmy kids are getting older, then
you start to realize that that'sreally exhausting to try to
(33:44):
remember who you're supposed tobe in each situation.
It's like wow, if I could justbe me most of the time, that'd
be a lot easier.
In each situation it's like wowif I could just be me most of
the time, that'd be a lot easier.
I sure would.
So that was kind of the point.
So I'd love to get your kind ofthought on that, with
everything you've been throughand all of the clients you've
worked with and everything likereally stepping into kind of
that authentic version ofyourself.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
Yeah, I love that, david, because one of my mentors
says you know, comparison isthe thief of joy.
So if you're always comparingyourself to others first off,
you're never going to be thebest version of yourself and
you're going to be miserable,you're never going to be happy.
So being able to be yourauthentic self, it takes work,
(34:28):
it takes confidence.
It takes work, it takesconfidence, it takes discipline,
it takes everything that youneed to be in order to be.
If that makes sense, I alwayssay just be with yourself for
five minutes.
I tell my clients this and myfriends Just be with yourself
for five minutes, uninterrupted.
Be wherever that is in yourroom, outside, wherever that is.
(34:51):
For me it's outside, on mypatio.
I'm in Florida with a pool andI have a fountain that runs my
hot tub and it's so relaxing tome.
And it's just five minutes.
I don't look at my phone, I sitthere and put my dog or just
look out in the beautiful earththat I have around me, but that
takes work.
I didn't do that 20 years ago.
Right 20 years ago I wascomparing myself to this person
(35:12):
and that person and how Ithought I was going to climb the
corporate ladder.
And then I could say today well, I should be the CMO, the chief
marketing officer, that shouldbe me.
But if I say that, then I'mgoing to be miserable.
I'm going to feel bad for myselfand I'm not going to show up as
my authentic self.
It could have been me, but itwasn't the path that was for me.
(35:33):
And so when you show up as yourauthentic self, you will
attract your tribe.
I promise you and here's thething you don't want to be with
the quote popular people.
If they're not for you becauseyou're not going to have
anything to talk to them about,you're going to be miserable.
When you're with them, you'regoing to feel like you're always
.
You know someone's showing up,someone for something else.
(35:55):
Just be yourself, and youreally only need three to five
really good people in your life.
That's all you need.
You don't need a group of 50,although that's fun right,
that's fun, and I could probablyname 50 people, right, but like
, do they really?
Speaker 1 (36:11):
know, me?
Speaker 2 (36:11):
Do I show up as myself with them?
Right, so you get to step intoyour authentic self and always
be who you are because you'rebeautiful.
You are placed on this earth tobring your authentic gifts to
everybody and you haveeverything you need to know
inside of you.
And sometimes we just needsomeone else to talk to, like a
(36:32):
life coach or an executive coachor a therapist, to really bring
that shining light out of us sowe can shine it out.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
Yeah, that was really well said.
It's that mirror, right, youneed the mirror to reflect it
back to you, because we have ahard time seeing it within
ourselves.
Even things that we know thatwe're good at or that we have
talent in, we still downplaythose absolutely in our minds,
right?
And so, yeah, you need, youneed that accountability coach,
partner, therapist, whatever toreally allow you to see that,
(37:05):
and then you really have to thensee it and then believe it.
So, yeah, no, that was that wasreally well said.
And just this wholeconversation like I love your
energy, I love I love that youdidn't take the diagnosis and
the illness like and just letthat keep you down.
Like you figured out a way andyou battled through it and then
came out like so much fartherahead.
(37:26):
Like I think a lot of peoplewould have just been like, oh
well, this is my lot, and likeI'll just going to be sick
forever, and like I'll just,I'll take the medicines and like
I'll just feel bad and likethis is it Right.
And you were like you know, I'mnot going to do that, like I'm
going to.
I'm going to figure it out.
Yeah, like I'm not.
I think it's amazing, just likemental fortitude and just your
(37:52):
energy and drive to do it andthen to not stop there and then
allow it to help transform otherpeople's lives and give that
back.
I think it's really fascinatingand I think it's great, so I'm
super.
It's been a weird tech week, soit's actually not surprising
that I just did that.
Yeah, why not Just slap themicrophone?
Speaker 2 (38:11):
around.
I got you so energized, david,you didn't know what to do with
yourself.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
I know I couldn't control my hands.
I just decided to punch mymicrophone Anyway.
So I'm super happy that we met.
I love your energy, I love yourposts, I love what you're doing
.
I'm looking forward to comingon your show and I really
appreciate your time and insight.
Before we go, you can tellpeople how to find you, whether
it's website, linkedin.
Obviously, the book coming outit's called Exhausted to
(38:37):
Energized.
That's on November 12th, butany other way they could reach
out if they're interested, forsure.
Speaker 2 (38:43):
And so you can reach me all over social LinkedIn,
facebook, instagram, robinEngelson, and I'll spell that
R-O-B-Y-N, last name isE-N-G-E-L-S-O-N, and also my
website, robinengelsoncom, anddefinitely get on the waitlist
for my book release, and if youwant some free protein recipes,
let me know, or workouts orwhatnot.
If you just want to say hi, Iwould love that too.
(39:06):
So just hit me up on the DMs.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
Awesome.
Well, thanks so much, Robin.
This was great.
I really appreciate your timeand insight and I really
appreciate you coming on.
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (39:15):
Thank you so much, David.
It's been a pleasure.
I'm so happy we met as well andI believe nothing's an accident
in life and you attract yourtribe.
So thank you so much for thisopportunity.
Speaker 1 (39:24):
Absolutely, you're welcome.
Welcome to the Real you Podcast.
I'm your host, David Young, andthis is episode number 24.
This podcast discusses tappinginto your full potential and
finding ways to be the truestversion of yourself.
Today, I'm joined by RobinEngelson, a coach, wellness
enthusiast and fellow lover ofthe sun, water and dogs, and we
will discuss her journey, howshe got in to and why she loves
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coaching.
She also has a podcast and thelessons she's learned along the
way.
So, Robin, I really appreciateyour time.
Thanks for carving out time forme today.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Absolutely.
Thank you for having me, David.
I'm excited to dive in.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Yeah, for sure.
So we just recently got hookedup on LinkedIn I think in the
last month or two and we had aquick conversation a couple
weeks ago and so, yeah, soyou're going to come on my show,
I'm going to come on yours, andit'll be a great kind of
exchange of backgrounds andideas.
So, yeah, really lookingforward to it.
So let's get started.
I know you do kind of healthand wellness coaching for
corporate leaders, but if youkind of go back, what did you do
(00:57):
after college?
What did you think you wantedto do in terms of work, and then
kind of, how did that lead youinto eventually?
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Absolutely Such a great question.
I mean, yes, we did just meet afew months ago, so this is
great to be able to help eachother and collaborate and share
with our audiences.
So thank you for that.
Yeah, so I always wanted to bein marketing and advertising and
also helping people right.
So I have a business degree inmarketing with a minor in
sociology, so combining the bothof them.
(01:30):
When I graduated college, I wentstraight to an ad agency
because I was taught through mymentors and through my
internships that you got to dothe agency side first and then
you go outside the agency to domarketing at a firm and or
advertising, because then youhave the understanding of what
happens in that field and whatpeople are going through.
So I did that and it didn'twork out.
It's not exactly what I thoughtit was going to be.
As some people may know,advertising is cutthroat.
(01:51):
It's a certain type of personand I love advertising and I
love sales.
But being in an ad agencywasn't for me.
So when I took those lessonsright, because we always learn
the lessons, it's always thelessons that we take to move
forward in our lives.
So I took that and I went onthe marketing side and I
absolutely loved it and I wasable to help people because I
(02:11):
went to the nonprofit side anddoing marketing and sales and
advertising and I found thatcombining all of that really
helped me be the best version ofmyself because I was helping
people, mission-based and frommy heart I always say it's my
heart work and then I was doingmarketing and advertising and it
was just so much fun.
And then I realized thatworking for somebody else is
(02:33):
never going to get me where Iwant to be right, because I'm
never going to be able toelevate to the levels that I'm
capable of.
So I did that for a short stintmaybe about five years Got
great experience, had greatmentors and I went off on my own
at 27.
And I've been an entrepreneurfor 20 years.
So now you can all guess my age.
(02:54):
But with all of that comes alot of experience, a lot of
trial and error.
I had my own ad agency andmarketing consulting business
that I absolutely loved servingnonprofits, and it really was a
way for me again to serve mymission with my heart, work but
really help bring the bottomline up for people so if they
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weren't doing well or theydidn't understand it, just
really helping themcollaboratively as a team.
Even though I was a consultant,I was part of their team and
helping with their bottom lineand that was really important to
me because I was helping peoplewithin their nonprofit and also
helping the people that I workwith and helping myself right,
because we all, we want to bethe best version of ourselves.
And then after that, after youknow a couple of years in
(03:37):
whatnot, and then somethinghappened for me which was life
changing not life threatening,thank goodness, but I got
diagnosed with an autoimmunedisease called Hashimoto's,
which is a thyroid autoimmunedisease, and after I got
diagnosed I got sicker andsicker and sicker, right.
So I got diagnosed after I hadmy first child, which is very
common for women in their 30s,and I got sicker and sicker from
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the medication and I had tostop working, closed up shop,
couldn't take care of my toddler, was in a brain fog, couldn't
get out of bed, sleeping 10 to12 hours a night, body aches,
hair falling out, nails breaking, like it was just.
I was a mess.
And I kept thinking, david,like is this my life?
Like how can this be my life?
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Right.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
So I just, I just want people that are listening
right now to really understandthat life happens, but it
doesn't mean it's the end ofyour life because you're still
living, Even though in thatmoment I thought I was existing
and not living Right.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Yeah, that's really powerful.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Thank you.
And from that it was a two anda half year journey of figuring
out what doctors to go to,doctors telling me I was fine,
my blood work was fine with themedication, but I was having
heart palpitations, anxietyattacks, wasn't sleeping, I was
miserable.
And then I figured out you knowwhat, if it's meant to be, it's
up to me.
And I figured out my nutritionfor my autoimmune disease,
(04:54):
figured out my workouts andexercise for my autoimmune
disease, figured out my mindsetbeing a model of positive change
, going from negative imagery topositive imagery and really
just finding accountability,partners and mentors that had
what I wanted, that are like oneor two, three steps ahead of
where I want to be personallyand professionally.
And my whole life changed.
(05:14):
And because of that, peoplestarted asking what I was doing.
I always thought I'd go back tomarketing and advertising and
sales, because that's what Iknew and that's what I loved.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Right.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
But I started helping people, neighbors, friends just
feel better.
Everyone's exhausted, right,everyone's exhausted Things
going on with you're a mom,you're a dad, you're a working
mom, working dad, you're working, you're, whatever it is sister,
brother, life happens, and so Ifigured out a simple way,
through nutrition, fitness andmindset, with accountability, to
help change the trajectory ofpeople's lives to be the best
(05:45):
versions of themselves.
And that's what I've been doingfor the past 12 years with my
coaching business and I bring inmy marketing and my advertising
knowledge and businessbackground to be able to grow my
business but yet still stayheart-centered, because it's my
heart.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Yeah, I love the way you've been able to tie it all
in.
That's not easy to do,especially when you go out on
your own, to be able to takewhat you're really interested in
and passionate about and thenalso tie it into your previous
work experience.
Right, that's not an easy blend.
Something I'm struggling withand I think a lot of people that
go out on their own is tryingto figure out how do I match,
(06:24):
how do I marry these all thesetogether.
So I love that it kind of cametogether for you.
It took obviously some somenegative to get there and some,
you know, trial and error andturbulence and, um, you know,
I'm sure, a lot of dark kind ofdark periods, but I I applaud
you for like coming out of it,using it, you know, kind of as
(06:49):
fuel to like, like you said,figure it out and take steps.
And I'm sure there was a lot oflike experimentation with,
especially with like foods andrecipes and like different types
of eating and like what washelping and what wasn't.
So, yeah, that's really, it'sreally fascinating.
I wonder what?
What do you think was thebiggest?
You're talking about thatmindset shift from negative to
positive imagery?
Was that something that youread about that, you studied
when did that, I guess, comefrom and what steps did you take
(07:12):
or what tools did you use tomake that shift?
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Absolutely.
That's a great question.
So every great coach has acoach, and so I had a life coach
who became one of my bestfriends.
That's not normal, that's justwhat happened because, bonded,
or my life coach knew she knowsmore about me and my inner life
and secrets than anybody in mywhole life.
Right, because in order toovercome something, you got to
(07:34):
dig in, you got to do the work.
So I worked with a life coachand we did.
You know, we, we work and thisis how I coach.
Also, that how we feel now isbecause we are a product of our
childhood.
So whatever happened in ourchildhood is what is appearing
and occurring and happening inthe now.
But we get to redefine ourstory, refine, redefine, however
(07:59):
you look at that, reframe ourstory now so our past doesn't
have to be our present, right?
So, for example, negativeimagery something happened in
childhood.
Maybe there was trauma, maybethere was abuse, maybe there was
just neglect, maybe there's somany different things that it
(08:19):
could be right Just givingexamples here.
That's a negative image that youhave in your mind.
And then there's triggershappen in your life now as an
adult that bring up the past.
So in order to overcome thatand be positive and have a happy
image.
We get to do the work inbetween in order to overcome the
(08:40):
obstacles and the negativityand, slowly but surely, over
time, when you do the work andyou do the exercises and you cry
your brains out, when you, youknow, feel your deepest, darkest
moments, like you said, david,that's when.
That's when you and yes, I dohave a dog and, yes, super
friendly, I promise we knew thedog.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
We knew the dog was coming.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
He's just the cutie pie greeting everybody at the
door.
So once we have that negativeimagery, we know the triggers
and we do the work to overcomeit, then triggers become
non-triggers.
They don't trigger you becauseyou have a image.
So, for example, let me give anexample so listeners can
understand what I'm talkingabout.
So, for example, maybe someonegrowing up, when you were a
(09:30):
child, you were never allowed tospeak.
Everyone talked over you, butthere was one person that
overpowered everything andreally just did the talking for
you.
So you really had no idea howyou felt, what your emotions
were.
You never had an opinionbecause you weren't able to talk
right, you were just shunned.
As an adult, you could be in acorporate meeting and not feel
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comfortable speaking up youropinions or adding value to the
conversation or the project,because you have a fear of
someone in the room.
That is triggering you and it'sthe same trigger that you had
when you were a child.
But when you do the work to knowthat it had nothing to do with
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you and that it has everythingto do with that other person,
and then probably havingchildhood trauma also and not
being heard right and having toshow their point and make
themselves heard as an adult.
Once you realize that, thenwhen you're in that meeting, you
know that there are otherpeople there and people may have
louder voices or softer voices.
Your voice matters and you getup and you get to speak and your
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colleagues value your opinionso that in the value you add to
that project or the conversation.
So that's how you go fromnegative imagery to positive
imagery.
It takes time, right, david, isnot overnight work, but it
takes time.
You can change over time if youchoose.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Did you use methods like my therapist uses, like a
tapping method and I knowthere's different types of like
tapping, where you can take,like what you're talking about.
You know, negative childhoodexperiences and through tapping
you can kind of lessen theireffect on you.
Did you use anything like that?
Or like did you have othertechniques that your life coach
worked with you, or was itsimply just like talking through
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them and identifying them?
Speaker 2 (11:13):
It was the latter of what you said.
I didn't use tapping, it wasmore talking through and really
just getting out is when youvoice something and you talk out
loud you're able to rid it fromyour body so energetically.
Getting it out allows you tonot hold it in, because so many
times we're weighed down on ourshoulders and it weighs on our
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head and a lot of times maybepeople get migraines.
Right, there's, there's areason why you're getting the
migraine from the buildup, fromthe stress, right, everything
just culminates in that state.
So it was really just talkingthings through and speaking my
voice, because I never got to orin that situation, right, I was
just talking it out and thenrealizing what happened was not
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my fault.
It wasn't my fault, right, andit's okay as an adult, to speak.
It's okay for an, as an adult,to have interactions with other
people and voice your opinionand not be afraid of what
they're going to speak.
It's okay for an, as an adult,to have interactions with other
people and voice your opinionand not be afraid of what
they're going to say.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
No, I love that Is it .
Did you find, excuse me, inyour experience where, like the
adult triggers with thechildhood memories and imagery
and you're you're working withyour life coach and you're
talking through it Did you findthat it took?
How many times did you need toget triggered to have that
situation come up as an adult towhere you were able to then not
have it affect you?
Did you notice a pattern likeon the fifth time or the 10th
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time, or was it one time becauseyou talked about it or was
there?
It would take years.
How long did you feel like theprocess of talking through it
and having it happen?
Were you then able to not letit have that effect on you?
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Yeah, so that's a good question as well.
I don't know an exact numberper se, but I can tell you it
took about a year, okay.
So what happens is you workthrough it and you feel good
about it when you're beingcoached on, but then, when you
actually have that situation inthe moment, in the now, as an
adult, it takes a lot ofwillpower, and I call it gut
strength, in order to be able touse the positive imagery and
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speak up in that moment.
Right so, and a lot of times itwould be like on the tip of the
tongue and you want to saysomething, but it wasn't the
right time for you or the rightspace or the right environment.
So it takes time and it'sworking through that process in
order to be okay in thosesituations.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Yeah, that makes sense.
And so what you do with yourclients, would you say it's kind
of an extension of lifecoaching?
It sounds like it's kind of ahybrid right Like you're doing
wellness, you're doing mindset,you might be doing some life,
maybe career.
It seems like it's a kind of amulti-point way.
How would you describe yourcoaching to someone that didn't
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know?
Speaker 2 (13:57):
what you did?
Yeah, absolutely so.
It definitely is my uniqueprogram.
Right?
It's my method that I createdbased on my experiences.
So I'm a life coach who helpscorporate executives and
entrepreneurs be the bestversion of themselves through
nutrition, fitness, mindset andaccountability.
And then within those, the fourpillars of my program, we work
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in depth in those four pillars.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Okay, yeah, okay.
And then is your process whereyou meet with them, kind of
identify, like kind of what theyhave going on, and then you
tailor it, or do you kind ofhave a okay, so you tailor it
based on their, like, currentexperience and needs nutrition.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Some people need more mindset, some people need more
accountability to get thingsdone and follow through, you
know, or exercise whatever theirspecific needs are, and they
share with me their goals andwhat they want to do and
accomplish with our timetogether.
And then it's customized basedon that right.
I customize it.
And then there's also a VIP day, so that's a one day intensive,
so there's not one-on-onecoaching, but there's a strategy
call at the beginning of theday and then I create a video at
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the end of the day and I sendthem the deliverables within
nutrition, fitness, mindset andaccountability, based on the
strategy session that we had andthe outcome they want to
achieve.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
Okay, I like the flexibility in those two.
On the one-on-ones, typicallyhow long are those engagements?
Speaker 2 (15:24):
They're 45-minute sessions.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Okay, and then for like three months, six months a
year, like how long?
Speaker 2 (15:30):
It's a 12-month commitment for a week, and then
you can renew as well, whichmost clients do, because in 12
weeks we can get through a lot.
We really can't 90 days, toyour best self, right.
But there's a lot of deeperinner work.
That happens sometimes, thatclients want to dig deeper in,
so we continue, but initiallyit's a 12-week.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
I like that because I think I've seen examples of
people who do similar to whatyou're describing a three-month
weekly.
So it's pretty regular touchpoints and I've seen a lot of
progress made.
But then as soon as the coachfalls off, then it's like a slow
.
I see this kind of slow decline, kind of back to like where
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they were before Maybe not likeall the way back, but it's hard.
Especially people that needbecause, like some people like
myself, I'm wired to do thingsfor myself internally and
externally, but not everybody'slike that right.
Some people need that externalaccountability, whether it's a
coach or a friend to work outwith or whatever.
And so I think for those peoplethat's really where I'm glad
you offer that extension,because I think people like you
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said, it just takes longer,especially depending on where
your baseline is, like how muchwork you need, right, like
sometimes it's a lot, likeyou're not close on any of the
pillars.
Three months is just simply notenough time to get there.
So I love the offer andextension because I think a lot
of people probably would do andbenefit from the extra time.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Absolutely, and I also create toolkits for my
clients too.
So to that point they want tocontinue, great, we can continue
building that toolkit.
But if they want to try after12 weeks, to go off on their own
and use the tools that wecreated in their toolkit,
they're able to do that as well,and then always come back.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
No, I love that.
And then I know a lot of yourposts and it's on your LinkedIn
profile.
You talk about your proteinrecipes.
Does that kind of stem fromwhen you were doing the
experimentation with the foodsto try to figure out how to help
yourself feel your best?
Does it come from that?
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Absolutely, because I've always been an athlete, but
I wasn't feeling my body for anautoimmune disease, so it's
very different, and so I learnedthrough nutrition that food is
fuel and food is medicine andyou can really.
You can retrain your metabolism, you can increase your energy.
You can do so many things withfood.
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So what I started to do is Ilove to bake.
I'm a phenomenal baker, so Istarted to just swap out
ingredients and just trial anderror, like what tasted good,
what didn't?
How did I feel A lot of it?
Go on how I feel right and howmy clients feel.
So, oh my gosh, my chocolatechip protein cookies are amazing
.
They're so freaking good.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
I gotta start sending care packages out.
I'm telling you like they're sogood and they're so simple and
they're high protein.
They're five frees.
So I say they're high protein,but they're gluten-free,
dairy-free, grain-free,anti-inflammatory-free, refined
sugar-free, and those are thefive frees that most people
whether you have an autoimmunedisease or not like really need
to be catering their nutritionto, because that's how you feel
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about it, right, and you need acertain amount of protein
throughout the day in order toachieve your goals.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
Yeah, and I think I hired a nutrition coach back in
November.
I'd gotten COVID for the secondtime in 15 months and I was
really pissed about that.
So I was like, all right, Iwant to make some changes.
So I hired him and we worked onit.
It was similar to what you'retalking about.
We kind of tweaked what I waseating and kind of working out
and exercising is usually not aproblem for me because I'm
usually training for some kindof race but just dialing that in
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and just yeah, for some kind ofrace, but just dialing that in
and just yeah.
So, but what triggered that?
When you mentioned that is, Iremember he told me that you can
actually consume, if I rememberthis correctly, one gram of
protein for every pound.
So, like a lot of times you'llhear like, oh, you only need
like 50 or 60 grams of protein,right?
Um, and he was like that's notenough for most people, and
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especially if you're like reallyactive.
So he was like you, most peoplewon't get to their weight like
in grams of protein per day.
But he's like you actually havea much like larger window of
protein to consume.
And then like the more activeyou are and the more intense.
Your training is the closer youneed to get to the protein.
I thought it was reallyinteresting.
So I think it's a little bit oflike almost like societal
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misinformation, where you think,oh, I only need, like this
small amount, when in reality,like you said, to feel your best
and to fuel yourself best, youreally probably need more.
You're probably not gettingenough.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
Most people don't get enough at all.
That's spot on.
And people don't understandnutrition and they go to their
doctors for nutrition advice,which is the worst thing you can
do, because doctors are trainedin the medical field, not in
the nutrition field, so theyhave no clue, no idea, and they
can't help you.
And you're correct about thenutrition as far as the protein
grows with the grams of protein.
And most people also think thatthe less you eat, the more
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you're going to lose weight andthe more muscle you're going to
get, and that's absolutelyincorrect.
It's completely false.
You need to be eatingconstantly through the day,
right To fill your body so youincrease your metabolism and you
don't get your glucose to dip,because when your glucose, blood
sugar levels dip, that's whenyou actually create fat.
And so you think you're eatingless and being healthy, where in
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fact you just did this hardworkout and you didn't eat
before and you're not eatingafter until like three hours,
your whole workout.
You're not reaping the benefitsof it, so you're not gaining
anything from it.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
Yeah, I eat like every 90 minutes or two hours.
It drives my wife crazy.
She's like I don't know how canyou be hungry?
And I'm like, oh, I was hungryafter I ate.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
I know I'm already done in three hours.
I was at the nail salon theother day and I brought my food
with me because I'm like I'mgoing to have to eat in the
middle and if I don't eat thenI'm going to crash and it's not
worth it, right?
And the lady's like man, isthat your breakfast?
I was like, no, this is my.
I don't even know what to callit.
It's my snack.
I'm wearing a snack.
I already had breakfast threehours.
She's like what?
I'm like, yeah, every threehours.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Yeah, I've already had two breakfasts.
This is my post-secondbreakfast snack before lunch.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Yep, I hear you.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Yeah, no, I'm always planning like four or five
whether it's meals or snacksahead.
If we're going to go to thefields for games and stuff, it's
like all right.
How much food do I need?
Speaker 2 (21:39):
to get myself.
I'm like, what size cooler orpurse do I need to bring today?
Speaker 1 (21:43):
Right yeah, that's exactly, that's it.
Yeah, I love it.
I love that.
I mean, I love that.
Are you familiar with Rich Roll?
It sounds like you would reallydig on Rich Roll stuff.
Do you know who Rich Roll is?
Speaker 2 (21:55):
I do not Tell me more .
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Yeah, so you should check him out.
So he really kind of changedthe trajectory of my life a
little bit.
So he now is a famous podcaster, but about 15, 10 to 15 years
ago he was out of shape.
He was a lawyer, he wasdrinking too much, poor diet,
and he ended up writing a bookabout it.
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So he just one day was tryingto walk up his stairs and got
out of breath and just had thisepiphany.
It was like is like I can'tlive this way, right, and so he
completely like overhauled hislife.
He went completely plant-basedand then he ended up doing all
of these like ultra endurance,triathlons and and beyond even
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just a traditional triathlon andall this stuff anyway.
So he ended up writing a bookand then now has become like a
plant-based, you know, thoughtleader and he's done like 800
episodes of his podcast andspeaker and he just completely
overhauled his life and he quitdrinking and all this stuff.
But a lot of it is talking aboutlike how food, like what he
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really experienced is that whenhe shifted to the plant based
eating and not that you have togo plant based, but just in
using food as fuel when heshifted to the plant-based
eating and not, that you have togo plant-based, but just in
using food as fuel when he wasreally doing these ultra intense
training sessions and theseraces, and just how important it
was like that correlationbetween what he was consuming
and when he really started topay more attention to what he
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was consuming and just like theeffect on the body and, like you
said, inflammation and illnessand energy like all this kind of
stuff.
But, yeah, you should, youshould check him out.
He's easy to find.
Uh, he's got at least one book,if not two, and he's got, you
know, the big kind of thebiggest names you know in
podcasts have been on the show.
So really interesting guy andinteresting story.
But it reminds me in talkingabout just exercise and fuel and
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food and energy and how it allworks together.
So you have a book coming, so Iwant to say one thing about
that too.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
It's a really good point that you made, david, and
so many people, especially thatI work with a lot of corporate
executives and entrepreneurs.
Like corporate executives,they're typically at their desk
all day and they're on thecomputer, or entrepreneurs are
on their phones all day, right,and there's a correlation
between your productivity andyour exercise and productivity
and your nutrition.
And then productivity andcombined exercise and nutrition,
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right.
And so and I post a lot onLinkedIn about you know movement
is medicine and food is food,like what you just said.
And so, to that point, the moreactive you have in the routine
work, the more disciplined youare with your nutrition and your
fitness, the higherproductivity that you're going
to have in the workplace, and sothere's a direct correlation.
That's really important tomention, because a lot of times
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people think, well, I just workharder.
No, you got to work smarter,not harder.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Yeah, for sure, it's the whole.
Yeah, focusing on the importanttask and to make sure you're
doing those.
You're just not trying to doeverything, and it's easier for
me and probably for you likeworking out of the house with
the dogs and I have a dog too,so he gets me out of the house a
lot, which is nice because youhave those built-in walk breaks.
And then I do a lot of runningand training, so the movement
part's a little bit easier, butthat's because I'm at the house.
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If I was at the office it wouldbe harder.
But still, even when I wasworking in an office I would
still get up and walk thehallways, or I'd go walk out to
my car and walk back, orwhatever.
I just can't sit for thosereally long stretches.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
I'm taking the elevator, You're going up one
floor.
Take the stairs.
What are you doing?
I was known for the one thatwas like run around the office
Literally.
I was like the fastest walkerfrom office to office.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
Yeah, I love it.
I was the same way.
I didn't like elevators andyeah anyway.
So you have a book coming outin about what?
Two?
A little over two months, twoand a half months and is that
kind of a culmination of yourexperience?
Kind of just talk about thegenesis of the book and kind of
how you went through writing it.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
Sure, so thank you for asking.
I'm super excited.
It's one of those lifetimegoals that most people don't
accomplish and I'm proud to saythat I did accomplish that.
My book, exhausted to Energized90 Days to your Best Self, is
available on Amazon November12th, which is the day after my
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birthday.
So that's super special, yeah,super excited.
And so basically the book reallywalks you through exhausted
state to hope state, to the workstate to energized state.
So it's the four phases, justlike I have four pillars in my
program for coaching, and itreally gives live examples.
I have stories in there.
They're real stories that Iexperienced and how I overcame
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my autoimmunity, how I overcameall the other tribulations with
exhaustion and my nutrition andmy fitness and everything that
goes into living life to thefullest and being your best self
.
And it really gives hope forpeople that are completely
exhausted whether you're burntout, you have chronic illness,
you have pain, wherever you arein your journey that just trust
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the process.
And in my book there areactivities called heartwork, for
about half, about half of thepages have them and really that
is the work that you get to doin order to overcome whatever
you're going through, becausenothing changes if nothing
changes and it really just givesjoy and happiness to you and
also the people around you,because you affect everybody
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that you're around but, moreimportantly, yourself.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
No, I love that.
Had you been thinking about itfor a while and then you finally
did it?
Or did you just kind of justsay like, okay, I'm writing a
book.
Okay, so you've been thinkingabout it for?
Speaker 2 (27:20):
a while?
That's a good question too, soI've been thinking about it.
It's been in my head for aboutfive years two to five years,
the last two years, definitelyand then what happened is is now
that I'm more active onLinkedIn, I started connecting
with a lot of people that hadjust published books and written
books and self-published andworked with coaches and whatnot,
and so I always find thatthat's a sign when you put
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something out to the universe,it comes back to you, right?
So it was my sign to getconnected with my coach that
helped me, from start to finish,really put my ideas and
thoughts into the book and howto organize it, and so it took
me about 90 days to write thebook from start to finish and
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then went through editing, whichwas about another month, month
and a half and yeah, then thedesigner, the layout and so yeah
, and then there's all themarketing and sales and
promotions and plans and all ofthat on the back end.
It's really the full cycleprocess and if anyone's thinking
about it, go for it, becauseyou really have no idea how much
it will change your life andhow you look at things and
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really see how much you've done,how much you've accomplished
and the impact you've made on it.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
That's funny.
I've had people tell me Ishould write a book and I'm like
I don't who would read that?
It would be so boring, whywould I?
Speaker 2 (28:38):
I don't know if it would be boring.
You have to like fill it out,give like a great draft or some
idea, concept and cut that forpeople.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
What did you?
So that's a short, I feel like,in my opinion, and I don't know
much about the book writingprocess, but 90 days to write a
book seems like a short periodof time, so did you have a
pretty yeah.
So did you have a?
I'm assuming you had a veryrigid or a pretty strict writing
process, like write every dayat the same time, or you just
time blocked an afternoon.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
Yeah, so there was a schedule and I blocked off time.
But how you do anything is howyou do everything in life, and
so what happened was I'd have adeadline for my coach, a certain
part had to be done so we couldreview it and stuff, and the
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deadline was coming up and I hadmissed the scheduled times.
And life happens right.
And so I would just sit downand I would just write and I
didn't even know how much timewent by.
I would just write until I wascontent and until I knew that
that was it for the day, andthen I'd get everything done by
my deadline.
But it was really more.
I am a super disciplined person.
I'm not that you have to bedisciplined to write a book, but
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I know if I have a deadline I'mgoing to deliver, no matter how
I'm going to get there.
And so, yes, 90 days is a shortamount of time, but I knew it
was attainable because I havegoals of when I wanted it
published and when I wanted tohave it out to people in the
messaging to help them withtheir lives.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
I love that.
What have you enjoyed?
I assume you have, because youhave the background in marketing
, sales and advertising.
So have you enjoyed this kindof next phase of starting to
promote it and, like you said,the book cover and then doing
press for the book?
To me I've never done bookmarketing or book advertising or
book PR.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
So it's great because I'm learning a new skill that I
put in my toolkit, that I canhelp someone else sometime next
time I do that.
And so it is really fun.
It's overwhelming because Idon't know what I'm doing.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
I'll be real.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
I'm a real person.
My client tells me my clientshe's great and she's like Robin
, you are just as advertised,even better, like.
I am so real.
But you get the real deal.
There's nothing fake on socialmedia.
There's nothing fake when youtalk to me.
But I'm loving the processbecause I always trust the
process and enjoy the journey,and sometimes I have to take my
own advice right Because I'mlike, oh my gosh, I can make a
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deadline or I don't know what towrite or this and that.
But if you just really sit downand really be with yourself and
use the tools you already havein the toolbox, you're amazing.
You have all the gifts that youneed.
And so, yes, I am enjoying theprocess.
It's super fun and I'm justreally excited to have that copy
in my hand and out to as manypeople as possible to help
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change the trajectory of theirlives.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
No, I love that.
Talk a little bit about yourpodcast.
You've had it, I think, for notquite a year.
Is that all kind of tied in, Iassume, to the health wellness
movement Like?
Speaker 2 (31:40):
it's all.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
R-related yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
Well, my podcast is called the Robin Engelson
Podcast and it's about life,similar to what your podcast is,
I think, david as well.
Right, and so it's related tonutrition, fitness, mindset and
accountability my four pillars.
I'm going from energized sorry,excuse me, going from exhausted
to become energized 90 Days toyour Best Self the name of my
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book and so I interview a lot ofdifferent people in different
phases of their lives corporateexecutives, entrepreneurs,
nutritionists, fitness coaches,life coaches.
So really it's about life andjust being the best version of
yourself and the tools andaction that you need to take in
order to get there.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
No, I love that, that's right.
Like you said, that's right upmy alley and, honestly, when I
started this show, which I'vebeen thinking about for years,
and the limiting beliefs andfear and putting yourself out
there and all that kind ofstopped me from doing it.
And then, kind of once Istarted on this you know,
linkedin content, journey andyou know, kind of moving to
doing this full time it seemedlike if I was ever going to do
it it was going to be now.
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But yeah, I'm really fascinatedwith, like our evolution as we
go through life, age, mature,you know, like you said, the
lived experiences, the ups anddowns which will happen to all
of us throughout life, and thenlike how we come out of that,
what we learn, and then we startto.
I feel like if we're doing it,you know, if we're moving
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forward, then we're becomingbetter versions of ourselves
through all of that, all ofthose experiences which we can
then help others and it's.
But when I was was younger, Ididn't do that and I felt like I
wore a lot of masks and wasn'tkind of my true self and you
know, I've like somebody, youknow, with different parts of
family and school and friends,and then in work, like I was
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kind of always not thoseversions of myself right.
In some ways it almost feltlike acting at times because you
felt like I felt like I had todo that to fit in or to not get
attention or whatever.
But then as you get older andmy kids are getting older, then
you start to realize that that'sreally exhausting to try to
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remember who you're supposed tobe in each situation.
It's like wow, if I could justbe me most of the time, that'd
be a lot easier.
In each situation it's like wowif I could just be me most of
the time, that'd be a lot easier.
I sure would.
So that was kind of the point.
So I'd love to get your kind ofthought on that, with
everything you've been throughand all of the clients you've
worked with and everything likereally stepping into kind of
that authentic version ofyourself.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
Yeah, I love that, david, because one of my mentors
says you know, comparison isthe thief of joy.
So if you're always comparingyourself to others first off,
you're never going to be thebest version of yourself and
you're going to be miserable,you're never going to be happy.
So being able to be yourauthentic self, it takes work,
(34:28):
it takes confidence.
It takes work, it takesconfidence, it takes discipline,
it takes everything that youneed to be in order to be.
If that makes sense, I alwayssay just be with yourself for
five minutes.
I tell my clients this and myfriends Just be with yourself
for five minutes, uninterrupted.
Be wherever that is in yourroom, outside, wherever that is.
(34:51):
For me it's outside, on mypatio.
I'm in Florida with a pool andI have a fountain that runs my
hot tub and it's so relaxing tome.
And it's just five minutes.
I don't look at my phone, I sitthere and put my dog or just
look out in the beautiful earththat I have around me, but that
takes work.
I didn't do that 20 years ago.
Right 20 years ago I wascomparing myself to this person
(35:12):
and that person and how Ithought I was going to climb the
corporate ladder.
And then I could say today well, I should be the CMO, the chief
marketing officer, that shouldbe me.
But if I say that, then I'mgoing to be miserable.
I'm going to feel bad for myselfand I'm not going to show up as
my authentic self.
It could have been me, but itwasn't the path that was for me.
(35:33):
And so when you show up as yourauthentic self, you will
attract your tribe.
I promise you and here's thething you don't want to be with
the quote popular people.
If they're not for you becauseyou're not going to have
anything to talk to them about,you're going to be miserable.
When you're with them, you'regoing to feel like you're always
.
You know someone's showing up,someone for something else.
(35:55):
Just be yourself, and youreally only need three to five
really good people in your life.
That's all you need.
You don't need a group of 50,although that's fun right,
that's fun, and I could probablyname 50 people, right, but like
, do they really?
Speaker 1 (36:11):
know, me?
Speaker 2 (36:11):
Do I show up as myself with them?
Right, so you get to step intoyour authentic self and always
be who you are because you'rebeautiful.
You are placed on this earth tobring your authentic gifts to
everybody and you haveeverything you need to know
inside of you.
And sometimes we just needsomeone else to talk to, like a
(36:32):
life coach or an executive coachor a therapist, to really bring
that shining light out of us sowe can shine it out.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
Yeah, that was really well said.
It's that mirror, right, youneed the mirror to reflect it
back to you, because we have ahard time seeing it within
ourselves.
Even things that we know thatwe're good at or that we have
talent in, we still downplaythose absolutely in our minds,
right?
And so, yeah, you need, youneed that accountability coach,
partner, therapist, whatever toreally allow you to see that,
(37:05):
and then you really have to thensee it and then believe it.
So, yeah, no, that was that wasreally well said.
And just this wholeconversation like I love your
energy, I love I love that youdidn't take the diagnosis and
the illness like and just letthat keep you down.
Like you figured out a way andyou battled through it and then
came out like so much fartherahead.
(37:26):
Like I think a lot of peoplewould have just been like, oh
well, this is my lot, and likeI'll just going to be sick
forever, and like I'll just,I'll take the medicines and like
I'll just feel bad and likethis is it Right.
And you were like you know, I'mnot going to do that, like I'm
going to.
I'm going to figure it out.
Yeah, like I'm not.
I think it's amazing, just likemental fortitude and just your
(37:52):
energy and drive to do it andthen to not stop there and then
allow it to help transform otherpeople's lives and give that
back.
I think it's really fascinatingand I think it's great, so I'm
super.
It's been a weird tech week, soit's actually not surprising
that I just did that.
Yeah, why not Just slap themicrophone?
Speaker 2 (38:11):
around.
I got you so energized, david,you didn't know what to do with
yourself.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
I know I couldn't control my hands.
I just decided to punch mymicrophone Anyway.
So I'm super happy that we met.
I love your energy, I love yourposts, I love what you're doing
.
I'm looking forward to comingon your show and I really
appreciate your time and insight.
Before we go, you can tellpeople how to find you, whether
it's website, linkedin.
Obviously, the book coming outit's called Exhausted to
(38:37):
Energized.
That's on November 12th, butany other way they could reach
out if they're interested, forsure.
Speaker 2 (38:43):
And so you can reach me all over social LinkedIn,
facebook, instagram, robinEngelson, and I'll spell that
R-O-B-Y-N, last name isE-N-G-E-L-S-O-N, and also my
website, robinengelsoncom, anddefinitely get on the waitlist
for my book release, and if youwant some free protein recipes,
let me know, or workouts orwhatnot.
If you just want to say hi, Iwould love that too.
(39:06):
So just hit me up on the DMs.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
Awesome.
Well, thanks so much, Robin.
This was great.
I really appreciate your timeand insight and I really
appreciate you coming on.
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (39:15):
Thank you so much, David.
It's been a pleasure.
I'm so happy we met as well andI believe nothing's an accident
in life and you attract yourtribe.
So thank you so much for thisopportunity.
Speaker 1 (39:24):
Absolutely, you're welcome.
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