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July 3, 2025 38 mins

In this conversation, Rebekah Panepinto and Michael Campbell discuss the evolution of AWS and cloud technology, the shift in business engagement with IT, and the importance of partnerships in sales. They explore the challenges of cloud migration, the dynamics of sales leadership, and share memorable experiences from transformative deals. Michael emphasizes the need for trust, collaboration, and a strong work ethic in achieving success in the cloud ecosystem.

Key Takeaways

  • The AWS ecosystem has evolved significantly since its inception.
  • Business engagement with IT is now crucial for project success.
  • Hybrid cloud environments are becoming the norm for many organizations.
  • Resistance to cloud migration often stems from fear of the unknown.
  • Partnerships are essential for navigating the complexities of cloud sales.
  • Sales leadership requires transparency and trust-building with teams.
  • Successful salespeople must be able to qualify opportunities effectively.
  • The landscape of sales has changed, requiring more value-driven approaches.
  • Activity and effort are key drivers of success in sales.
  • A strong work ethic can lead to greater opportunities and outcomes.

Chapters:

  • (00:00) Introduction
  • (00:02) Meet Michael Campbell: CEO of Relu Tech
  • (00:21) Michael's journey and leadership at Relu Tech
  • (00:50) Personal insights: Michael's life outside work
  • (01:05) Overview of today's conversation
  • (01:16) Welcoming Michael to the show
  • (01:56) The evolution of AWS and cloud technology
  • (06:22) The rise of Gen AI and its impact
  • (08:10) Challenges and strategies in cloud migration
  • (14:05) Relu Tech's unique solutions for cloud migration
  • (21:38) The importance of partnerships in the cloud business
  • (29:02) Sales leadership and strategies
  • (34:57) Michael's guiding principles for success
  • (37:57) Conclusion and final thoughts
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