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February 13, 2025 55 mins

Politicians have always been celebrities in some way, but the rise of Trumpism has elevated that celebrity status to cult worship, which is not something Americans typically embrace. We need to get back to treating our politics like we used to, as a means to get what all Americans need. And the evils of Trumpism have convinced many of us to look for saviors instead of seeing politicians for what they are … tools. Scott Paul of The Alliance for American Manufacturing is our guest on today's program.

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