March 5, 2025 • 47 mins
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The Meditation Tapes are a series meant to give you real no joke hands on tools to ground yourself and protect your mental health. No gymnastics or unreachable principles. Just straight talk from people who understand what we actually face every day.
Dive deep into mindfulness and self-care with my lovely friend Molly, a postpartum and death doula and Ayurvedic health coach. She is the host of "The Busy Mom's Guide to Meditation". We explore practical meditation techniques for busy minds and cover how to hold space for others while caring for yourself.
• Importance of self-care for caregivers
• Mindfulness techniques that fit into a chaotic lifestyle
• The role of daily rituals in promoting emotional well-being
• How to ground yourself in stressful situations
• Ayurvedic principles and their application in daily routines
• Tips on breathing exercises and tapping methods
• The balance between caregiving and personal space
• Embracing chaos while finding stillness
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
Welcome to the Ritual Nurse, where healing meets
humor, science and a touch ofmagic.
Welcome to the Ritual Nursepodcast.
I am your host, reva, and thisis part two of our guest
episodes with the incredibleMolly.
If you did not get to listen tolast week's episode, you're
going to want to, because ourincredible guest is a postpartum
(00:35):
and death doula and Ayurvedichealth coach and the host of the
Busy Mom's Guide to Meditationpodcast, which is got a third
season out.
She's also a mom of threelittle ones, so she knows all
about balancing care for otherswhile trying to stay sane
herself.
Molly, welcome back to thepodcast.
(00:56):
Last week's episode was so muchfun.
I have so much fun recordingwith you and I think today we're
going to dive into what itmeans to hold space for others
without losing yourself in theprocess, how meditation can be
accessible even for those of uswith chaotic minds, and maybe
some simple suggestions aboutresilience and and ritual like
(01:19):
creating intentional space intoour everyday life.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Yeah, excited to do this again.
I love it.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
So, when it comes to meditation and self-healing, I
know that a lot of nurses likemyself are neurodivergent, but
many nurses and, of course, busymoms feel like they can't
meditate because their minds aretoo busy.
How do you approach meditationfor people who struggle with
stillness?
Speaker 2 (01:46):
The first thing I want to touch on is when your
mind is too busy.
A lot of times, people will tryto sit and clear their mind and
push all the thoughts out, andthat is a surefire way to not be
successful.
Right, yes, I can attest to thathighly to not be successful,
(02:07):
right, yes, I can attest to thathighly.
So the first thing is to justlike witness your thoughts, let
them come in and then try to nothold onto them, let them pass,
and that does take practice.
But as far as for people whostruggle with stillness, I know
with three little ones runningaround, I hardly get a chance to
(02:27):
sit down during the day, muchless meditate in the traditional
sense.
So if you are like very manyother people out there, who
imagines Buddha sitting on topof a hill for hours on end with
his eyes closed and legs crossedsitting on the ground, it's a
(02:48):
very serene scene, but it's notvery applicable to today's
society.
So what I like to recommend isdo it while dancing or walking
or simply put on your favoritesong and just let yourself be
immersed in that.
Personally, I like to crochet,and that is something that I can
(03:09):
do, that I just get into thegroove and it's something that I
can immerse myself either in mythoughts and let them kind of
just flow in and out, orsomething to just kind of like
focus on and lose myself in fora little bit, or something to
just kind of like focus on andlose myself in for a little bit.
It's repetitive, it's funny.
My husband and I talk aboutthis and he calls his meditation
(03:30):
days.
When he has days off and hewill schedule it into our
calendar He'll go, especially inthe winter, up to the ski
resorts and he'll have even ahalf day where he'll go skiing
or snowboarding and that's whathe calls his meditation Right.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Which is immersing himself in something.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Yes, and he's doing something he loves and it's
something that he can just kindof not be so focused on what is
right in front of you, but to toget into your body.
Yeah, Um, and so it's one ofthose things like you have 10
minutes Awesome, If you have aminute to just kind of like
breathe, get back to whateveryou were doing, it's better than
(04:10):
not doing it.
Or maybe it's like you havetime for one song Right Before
you, like when you get to work,before you have to run inside
and you can just be fullypresent.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Everybody knows the parking lot song.
Yes.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Yes, right, fully present in the moment, and so
it's kind of one of those thingslike well, if that is the time
you have, make it happen.
I've even utilized like whilecooking dinner or while
vacuuming or folding laundry tohave just kind of like the, the
awareness of like, okay, well,I'm going to, I'm going to use
(04:43):
this time to slip into thatmindset, so you're intentional
with it.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Yes, like you're intentional with it and what I'm
hearing?
So, first of all, mind blown,because anytime that I've ever
thought about meditating, it'slike, okay, I have to have yoga
pants on and like somewhere tosit.
Or, you know, if I lay down I'mgoing to go to sleep, so I've
got to have somewhere to sit andlike do this whole meditation,
meditation thing?
Like never once have I everthought of doing it in like in
(05:07):
normal space, like, for somereason, I always thought you had
to like create this likespecial, like meditation space,
and like be a certain way or sita certain way, or I don't, I
don't even know where I got thatfrom.
But to think about it in thiscontext, yeah, I don't know how
many times I've sat in theparking garage before going into
a shift at work.
My vehicle I bought my vehiclebecause of the set Well, and
(05:30):
it's a mermaid Jeep, but becauseof the sound system, because
I'm so kinesthetic and I losemyself in the music and just
being fully absorbed in it.
And it's kinesthetic enoughthat my brain offers no
objection, it doesn't try tomake up thoughts, or you know,
(05:51):
suddenly, like some weird spoton my left hip is is it supposed
to be feeling like that?
I wonder what that you know?
And then off I go down therabbit hole.
I've never, ever thought of itin that purpose.
Sure, I've listened to musicwhile meditating, or tried to,
but it's always like meditatingkind of music, you know, like
the soothing, whatever kind ofstuff.
Great.
My brain is not soothingwhatever.
(06:12):
Most of the time it's nothaving it.
So this is incredible, and Iwouldn't though it wouldn't work
though if I wasn't intentionalbeforehand about that's what I'm
going to do with this time,while I'm doing something.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Yeah, it's really just anything that you can use
to get yourself into your bodyand into the present moment.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Yeah, yeah, that's wildly effective imagery in that
regard, and especially forthose of us that maybe there's
not often time.
You know if we get a lunchbreak during a shift, um,
depending on where you work, ofcourse.
Uh, here in Nevada it's.
We don't have guaranteed breaktimes or break nurses, and you
(06:56):
know I've gone quite routinely.
You go a shift without a break,um, or at least you'll go 10
hours into a shift without abreak.
So to be able to intentionallyhave you know the I know I
mentioned this in anotherpodcast, but the whole linen
closet supply closet thing is areal thing, people but to have
you know intentionally, like Iam going to step off the floor
(07:18):
for two minutes and I don't knowwhatever it is that I'm doing,
I have two minutes to just getmy shit together, basically, but
being intentional about it as away to ground and like recenter
myself in myself, because weget so unwound, running from
(07:38):
patient to patient, answeringphones, taking notes Did I
document this?
Did I chart this?
That person screaming likewhatever's happening right, that
to know you can do it inwhatever time you have, and the
thought process that something,a little something, is better
than nothing, yeah, and touching, definitely in touching base
(08:00):
that way, that's wildly amazing.
So, on the heels of that, sowhat is like?
What is like one simple way,like if I'm in a 12 hour shift
and I'm running around and Ihave like two minutes, what
would you recommend?
If I'm going to be intentionalbut, like I want to center
myself or ground myself, isthere a, a method or a go-to for
(08:23):
you that would help beginnersconnect with that process?
Cause it's easy for me to sayit, but for me to like
physically, try to do it.
Like what do I do?
Like do I start with breathing?
Or like should I like I don'tknow, like what would you
recommend for a beginner Like,hey, if you've got like two
minutes, do this thing and focuson grounding yourself?
(08:44):
What would it?
What might it be?
Speaker 2 (08:45):
I really like just the traditional slow, deep
breaths.
Okay, if you are getting caughtup in what is happening and
you're rushing from place toplace and, like you said,
there's there's things happeningall around you.
Did I do this, did I do that,just finding a space to slow
your breathing and even tryingto make your exhale longer than
(09:06):
your inhale.
Okay, so, like the, not the boxbreathing, but the other
breathing yeah, I think youmentioned it in the second or
third podcast, and if you enjoyeither of those, any of those
breathing methods, you can usethose as well.
But simply just slowing yourbreath down and lengthening your
breath, which sometimes willsome people need practice doing
(09:29):
that, but slowing your breathwill slow your mind, yes, and so
that is something you canintentionally do just to find a
pocket of peace in that moment.
That being said, I know that thedeep breathing doesn't work for
everybody.
I've met quite a few peoplethat that just isn't really
their jam.
So the alternative that Ipersonally really love is it's a
(09:54):
tapping method, oh, okay, butit's like uh, I don't know, it's
like the butterfly hand I don'tknow what the actual name for
it is but basically laying likeone hand over each other on your
chest palm to the back of yourhand, yeah, palm to the back of
your hand, on the center of yourchest, and you tap, alternating
(10:14):
with your fingertips.
And what is really great aboutthis is that you can tailor it
to what you need or what yourbody is is wanting in that
moment.
Because you alternate yourhands, you can do it as fast or
as slow as you want and with asmuch or as little pressure as
you need, just to kind of pullyou out of your head and back
(10:36):
into your body.
I think this is going to be likea theme today, because it's the
second or third time, I've saidit already, but like just
really getting back andgrounding back into your body is
yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
I think that's vastly important, because we come and
I think most nurses would attestto this, maybe not in so many
words, but when we are in thatstate, we are operating out of
necessity, in fight or flightmode, out of necessity, in fight
(11:09):
or flight mode, and so we arekind of intrinsically out of our
body because our priorperception and our, our function
and our senses are gearedtowards emergently responding to
things.
Or I mean, even if it's not anemergency, but you're trying to
handle 10 patients on a medsearch floor, you're still
running in that mode and anxietyis still high or stress is
still high.
So to be able to come back intoyourself is regaining a sense
(11:31):
of control.
You're not just being pulled bythis current of immediacy
that's pushing and pulling you,even if it's, you know, even
like a labor and delivery floorand it's positive and there's
all these gorgeous babies andthis is awesome.
They're still immediacy andthey're still stress and they're
still anxiety and it's stillpushing and pulling you like
(11:51):
this current.
So to be able to groundyourself and kind of like, okay,
I'm going to be a rock sittingin the middle of the stream for
a moment and I'm not going tomove, but to do that you got to
find footing.
You have to find purchase.
Yes, and the I for our readers.
(12:12):
You know I have not startedvideo podcasting this but to put
the flat of one of your handson your sternum so that your
fingertips are kind of towardsyour collarbone, and then repeat
the the motion with the otherhand and put it palm to the back
of your hand so that thefingers are pointing towards the
other collarbone is what Mollywas doing with her hands and
tapping in this space underneatheither collarbone or, you know,
(12:33):
right on your chest.
Alternating is tapping is amethod.
It's used in EMDR, it's used inpost-traumatic stress disorder
treatments, emotionaldysregulation, dbt therapy I
think some not my professionalwheelhouse, so I could be
speaking out of turn butalternating the tapping is also
(12:54):
alternating your left and rightbrain signals and making the
brain slow down enough tofunction as one rather than
being solely in your left orsolely in your right.
So I think that's an incrediblemethod to.
Those are both really goodoptions.
Could you do both at the sametime?
Oh yeah, oh yeah.
(13:14):
Awesome, and I can see thatreally working for people who
maybe the breathing aspect stillleaves their mind too free to
continue bouncing around like aping pong ball in a room?
Yeah, but the tapping andyou're focusing on making it
alternate.
You have to actually focus onit being alternate.
(13:36):
While you're breathing, youoccupy.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
On the body?
Yes, because it quite literallybrings your focus into what is
happening on your chest.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
What does that feel like?
Speaker 2 (13:49):
And so it quite literally pulls you into that
bodily sensation, that'sincredible, that's amazing.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
And so it quite literally pulls you into that
bodily sensation.
That's incredible.
That's amazing.
I think people tend to do thisinnately as a stimming on their
legs or tapping their feet ortapping their fingers on things,
without realizing it.
So, intentionally, doing it ina space that's focused on your
core, I mean right over yoursternum, is basically your core
(14:16):
is perfect to really kind oflike draw you into that.
That's amazing.
Do you incorporate Ayurvedicprinciples or meditation?
Do you have that as a ritualhabit in your life?
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Well Ayurveda is, it encompasses a whole lifestyle,
right?
So a lot of times people thinkof it as like the diet piece and
how you're eating and the wayyou eat it, but really it it
does involve like the entirelike.
What does your lifestyle looklike?
So in Ayurveda it's calledDhinacharya and that is your,
(14:54):
your daily routine, your morningroutine, and I think you have a
name for your daily routine.
Yes, so having that kind of setroutine, like in the morning,
obviously it looks different foreverybody, depending on your
situation.
For me, with kids, I'm tryingto get out of the door for
school and whatnot.
You know my bare minimum isbeing able to wake up.
(15:16):
You know you splash some wateron your face, brush your teeth,
run a brush or some fingersthrough your hair.
And then I always like to drinka glass of like warm water
before anything else, and havingthat be kind of the set thing
that happens every morning.
Your body finds ease in routineand so it knows what to expect.
(15:40):
And then, even farther thanthat, if you eat the same
breakfast every morning, yourbody even will learn to expect
that, and it will start makingthe enzymes to digest that.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Absolutely it will.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Yes, before you even like get to have the food in
front of you, and so it.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
It eases digestion, then, and so it's like a way to
lower stress in a very justbecause if your body is
expecting what's coming, theparasympathetic nervous system
is what can respond instead ofthe sympathetic.
The body doesn't understand thedifference between pancakes or
a jump scare, like it reallydoesn't.
If it's not expecting a stimuli, no matter what the stimuli is,
(16:20):
whether it's your beautifulchild whispering in your ear at
one in the morning or you knowsurprise pancakes, it's
terrifying.
Your body reacts first with thesympathetic nervous system
until the brain can cognitivelyprocess what it's looking at
Correct For the parasympatheticnervous system to kick in.
(16:41):
So I've never, ever thoughtabout that.
Well, having ADHD routine andpredictable structure probably
isn't something I think aboutnormally.
It's probably something youneed Actual.
That is probably something youneed in actual.
But that's really mind blowingto me because having that kind
of structure allows you to stayout of your fight or flight mode
(17:03):
and that's so integral tolowering stress for nurses,
whose entire job is going tokeep them in it, probably 70 to
80 percent of the time, nomatter what field you're in.
Yeah, I'm not just speakingfrom experience, like from ICU
or ER experience.
That is such an incredibleconcept.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Well, and it goes back to you know, the ritual
aspect of this podcast.
It's like if you have thosedaily rituals that you do every
single day around the same timeevery day it helps to pull your
body kind of out of that fightor flight.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
And it's done with intention.
Yes, it is done with intention.
On that note, I wish that youguys could just stay with us the
entire time, but if you have tohead back to the floor, I
really hope that you are havinga wonderful shift and that you
get a few moments of intentionalspace that you need If you're
going to hang out with us andyou don't have to run back to
the floor.
(17:59):
Use this musical interlude torefresh your coffee, your tea,
just get into a more comfortableposition, and Molly and I are
going to return after the break.
We are going to talk about acouple cool, um, maybe practices
or maybe a personal intentionalspace that either one of us, uh
, like to create, and we'regonna cover that and go over it
(18:24):
after the break.
So we'll talk to you guysshortly.
And stone breaks, the darkness,a new day begins.
I feel cold and heartless.
I've run myself in Like thedistant star.
(18:48):
Have you traveled?
Speaker 2 (18:52):
far.
I miss you in my arms.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
Welcome back.
Thank you, guys so much forsticking with us.
So before the break we wereactually really connecting the
idea of the ritual spaces thatwe create for ourselves, and
doing it with intention.
And when it comes to, like highstress, caregiving professions,
a lot of the work that you do,um as a death doula, um, are
(19:30):
there any specific meditationpractices that are more
recommended for that kind ofprofession, or is it just get in
what you can when you can?
Is there a specific type ofmeditation that's more
beneficial than another?
This isn't my wheelhouse.
I don't know if there's evendifferent types.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
I think there's as many different types of
meditation for as many differenttypes of people out there.
Okay, and I think, instead oftrying to fit in a box of like,
this is how I should bemeditating, because X, y and Z,
I think leaning on what worksbest for you is is the most
(20:11):
important thing, because if it'snot going to work for you, then
it's not going to work.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
You're not going to do it, no matter what.
It's just like our patients.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Exactly, and so.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
If it's not going to work for them, they can't be
compliant.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Correct.
So it's kind of one of thosejust like making sure you find
what works, I think is the mostimportant thing.
Like if you haven't found thetype of meditation that works
(20:41):
for you yet don't give up.
I think would be like thebiggest thing that I would say,
because there are so manydifferent types out there, and
just cause you haven't foundwhat works for you yet, it
doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
Right, I think I fall into that trap a lot because
I've had so much frustrationtrying to quote, unquote do
meditation the right way?
Or I guess just what is, likeyou know, most typically
represented on social media orwhatever we're exposed to and
not having studied it, nothaving exposure to someone who
(21:08):
has studied it, I think one ofthe things that I've been able
to learn from you is that theway my mind works, I'm not, I
don't have to fight withmeditation.
The whole point is to do it inconcert with how I am normally,
like bottling up or or keepingthe flow of who I am, or my
(21:29):
energies am, or my energies, youknow, like in a maze that I'm
trying to navigate, versusremoving all the floodgates and
letting it flow in its naturalpattern.
I think speaks a lot to notgiving up on meditation, and I
don't even think I mean, does itreally need to be called
meditation?
Like, yes, that is a practiceand that's what you're doing
(21:51):
specifically, but what about theaspect of grounding?
Is grounding different thanmeditation?
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Not necessarily.
I had a teacher back in mycourses within Ayurveda and she
would say like meditation.
The goal is like meditation isa way of life.
Okay, and so like again, you'renot going to be sitting for 24
hours a day sitting andmeditating, and so if you can
(22:19):
find it's a mindset and if youcan shift into that mindset at
any point and that includes likethis is after you've been able
to like process your emotions.
Yes, and everything, and likeif, because if you're holding
(22:42):
onto stuff, it makes it reallyhard to shift into that mindset
at a given moment.
Right, Like a pure, likeexpression of emotion good, bad,
sad, whatever is 90 seconds.
When was the last time you feltan emotion for only 90 seconds?
Oh, yeah, no, Right, Like we'reso conditioned to like hold on
to emotions and let them outwhen it's quote, unquote,
appropriate, and so it causes alot of of issues in the body and
(23:07):
it just gets kind of stagnant.
And so I know, in workingespecially with my kids, you
know, seeing how they're able tokind of like process that
they're so excited or they'recrying or having a tantrum,
they're angry, and then the nextthing, you know, they flip the
switch and now they're fine andthey're like well, I'm kind of
hungry now and I'm like waitwhat?
(23:29):
And it's because they're notholding on to that.
And so I think, yeah, justbeing able to do the work to be
able to get to that point ofbeing able to get into that
mindset when you need to.
That makes sense.
And again, just being in thatpresent moment, which is really
kind of where that meditativemindset is, is kind of that
(23:51):
sweet spot.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
That's that makes a lot of sense and it really
speaks to like.
I think everybody just thinksthat you know, you should just
be able to find some kind ofhurts or frequency or sound or
you know, ohm, or something thatlike you sit down and if you
can sit cross-legged, sitcross-legged and do this thing
(24:13):
and suddenly you're meditating.
But the act of intentionallystaying in that mind space, or
being able to move into thatmind space, means that you have
to be really self-aware and youhave to do the work of keeping
yourself healthy emotionally.
Yeah, and we as nurses as I wastalking about Jamie, one of the
prior guests on the podcast weare not taught how to do any of
(24:38):
this.
So our only recourse, I'd sayfor like 90% of nurses out there
, is we shove things in boxesyou know metaphorical boxes and
they're put on shelves in ourpsyche and we just cram things
in them and put it away and wecan talk about it.
You'll notice that a lot ofnurses are able to talk about
(24:58):
really horrific or traumaticexperiences with really not too
much emotion.
Compartmentalization,absolutely Like wild, like it's
yeah, it's, it's, it's reallybad.
I mean, it's a maladaptivecoping mechanism, but nurses
aren't taught any of this inschool and then when we get into
the field, there isn't spacefor this, which is part and
(25:21):
parcel of the whole reason theritual nurse podcast is is here.
So I think that people need togive themselves patience.
I think they need to be givethemselves grace and be patient
with themselves, I guess, iswhat usually rely on my senses,
(25:59):
like touching base with my fivesenses, because for some reason
it just reminds me that itbrings me, I guess, into the
physical.
I'm very kinesthetic, so I willusually identify something that
I can see and I have, I'vealways had in my locker at work.
We don't usually wear perfumesand things like that, but
(26:20):
essential oils especially thosethat are not sharp but like
citrus or mint, not somethingsoft it for me personally, it
usually has to be something thatgrabs my attention
kinesthetically as a sense.
Ice and drinking ice water,sipping on ice water, the
coolness I will usually envisionlike actually sinking into ice
(26:49):
cold water.
And in DBT we call that tip asa method of helping with
emotional dysregulation, which Ihad no idea about until I
learned about DBT.
But I was doing thisintrinsically as a grounding
practice for knowing that, eventhough I didn't know why it was
working, just knowing that whatit was doing was giving me
(27:09):
clarity and calming my mind andI was able to return back to
razor sharp focus and walk intothe next code or do whatever I
was doing.
And it would take seconds.
It would just take seconds,yeah.
So I think.
Is there anything that you dolike that, when you are at work,
like let's say that you're notat home, like you can't really,
(27:32):
you know you're caring for afamily or you're in the midst of
dealing with something Is thereanything that you do?
You know, like the rubber bandthing that people do sometimes,
like that quick, like personally, it just brings you like to
where you need to be and thenyou can keep functioning.
Is there anything you do that'sfast, like that?
Because I'm sure, I'm darn sure, that, being in the spaces I've
(27:54):
been in, that you experience alot of intense emotional moments
that you can't just like duckout of the room, right out of
the room.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
Right, I'm trying to think because, well and
everything I'm hearing, you'resaying the like, snapping the
band on the wrist or thesmelling of the the very like
lively we'll call them scents,or even the ice water is.
It's a.
It's a snap back into your bodyRight and, to be honest, like
(28:23):
when I'm in it working withfamily I'm sure like plenty of
nurses can relate to this it'slike when you're in it you kind
of like can forget to do that inthe moment and then as soon as
you're out of there, you're likeokay, whoa, I need to come back
to that.
If I'm able to like outdoors,fresh air is my like jolt to the
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system.
If I can like, I'll open awindow.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
If I'm working from home.
I was just going to say that.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
Like, even if you need to stick your head out the
window for a second and breathefresh air.
Yes, I know I work from home alot, um and so, like I will,
I'll open up my whole house, andI know the last couple of days
have been really nice.
I've been able to open up thewhole house and it's been
fantastic.
I'm like, oh, we're at this timeof year again, but it is one of
those things that really justkind of like brings me back into
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the self, but it is somethingthat I'm not doing in the moment
.
So I find that reallyinteresting that you asked that,
because I'm like I I don't knowif I have something that just
is like adult in the moment.
I'll usually have tea orsomething, and so maybe you know
that, like I noticed, if I gethigher emotions I drink faster
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or like I'm sipping more oftenand sometimes that will be.
It'll kind of create that handbrain connection where I'm like
whoa, I need to slow down, takea second Right, exactly, and
then that brings me back to likethe Whoa, I need to slow down,
take a second, exactly, and thenthat brings me back to like the
breath work and stuff.
But yeah, that's interesting.
That's something that I couldbe better at.
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Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
And I think you know, obviously, in the middle of a
code, I know actually, now thatI'm thinking about it, I have
done it in the middle of a code.
No, actually, now that I'mthinking about it, I have done
it in the middle of a code.
When I notice that I'm startingto feel like I can't keep up
with the timing and it's likethis hint of frenetic energy, I
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actually will focus on somethinglike whether it's a sound of
something and it's just for afew brief seconds, and I didn't.
I until now, I didn't actuallythink about the fact that that I
have done this in codes beforeand it returns me to, I guess it
just gets all the freeway laneslike into one lane with my
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brain and I'm able to processthe data that I'm collecting and
get back on track.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
Well, it almost like pulls you out of, like the
tunnel vision because you focuson something like external,
exactly.
So you kind of gain thatperspective.
Yes, so that, yeah, that'sgreat.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
Yeah, yeah, I have actually done that in codes, I
think, when it comes tooverwhelm, have actually done
that in codes.
I think, when it comes tooverwhelm, and I'm, and I,
whether it's ice water or I'm,you know, running by my locker
to to grab something and justkind of, like you know, inhale
whatever essential oil it is orwhatever that is more of along
the same lines as you like, youknow when that, when the moment
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has passed and you're, you'vehandled that situation and you
step out for a moment, thatbreath of fresh air.
You know, I don't know how many, so many nurses can relate to
this.
Actually, like I'm going tostep outside for a moment, cause
even being in the physicalspace of the energy affects you.
Yes, and that might be woo woofor some.
You know, take it or leave it.
If it works for you, Great.
(31:44):
If it's a concept that you'relike, I don't believe in that,
not a problem.
But I do.
I really do challenge you tolook at your environment and the
energy that is in yourenvironment and then what
happens when you step outside,whether it's to step off the
floor to take an elevator rideup or down two floors, to walk
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in the parking garage, whateverit is, but getting off of that
floor, not even just out of theroom, but off of the floor for a
moment and see what happens,because the energy that is
circulating, it's palpable.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
And we react to others.
You know, uh, micro expressionsand body language, and we're
picking up on things.
As we're still animals, we'restill mammals.
We're picking up on things andreacting to it.
So I think I do both.
I've always kind of justmarried my perception of it as
(32:41):
well.
This is what I do in the moment, but there is actually a
separation.
Um and I didn't realize thatuntil you were saying what
you're saying I'm like, wait,that is true.
I actually like do it differentways.
I do, in the moment, have hadto bring myself back to zero by
focusing on one thing, and Iusually only have like maybe two
seconds to do it.
(33:01):
But the other stuff I do out ofthe moment kind of, even if I
only have a few seconds to do it.
That's interesting.
Yeah, it's weird when you talkabout it that you're not aware
of what you're doing until youvocalize it, right?
Speaker 2 (33:17):
Well, and it can also be that we all do these little
things to kind of get out ofthat tunnel vision right.
But we usually do it withoutthinking about it, right, and so
it is kind of one of thosethings that like once you
realize what it is you're doingor what that little thing is,
(33:37):
you can start pulling it inintentionally.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
Yeah, absolutely, um, and I think like, now that I've
vocalized it, I can see myselfactually, like, now that I've
vocalized it, I can see myselfactually because now I've
vocalized it, so I know it's athing like utilizing it.
Yes, like actually stopping todo it for a moment, maybe even
before.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
I get so unwound to it.
Yeah, into it.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
Yeah, man, that makes so much sense.
So I did want to ask is thereany like exciting projects
before we get to our coffee andcrystals and divination section?
Is there any exciting projectsor things coming up for you that
you wanted to to talk aboutwith our listeners?
Speaker 2 (34:21):
Sure.
So yeah, I think I mentionedreal quick in the in the last
episode that within like all ofthe death doula work and stuff,
I also work in financialservices helping people with
just kind of like protectingtheir finances and creating a
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legacy and you know whateverthat looks like for them.
And we're super excited Ouroffice is going to be holding an
event next month for womenthat's incredible Specifically
just to share financialeducation for women, because
financial education isn'tsomething that is widely taught
(35:02):
in schools.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
I know it is not at all in nursing school.
Yeah, whatsoever.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
Well, and yeah, it's something that a lot of times as
women, I think the statistic islike half of all married women
will just defer financialdecisions to their husbands.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
Yeah, and I know I've been, you know, part of that
statistic and whichever partneris better at the math or the
left brain thing, or you know.
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
But it just it's really interesting and the more
women I talk to, there's a lotof different mindsets around
this, of anything from like,well, my finances are separate,
I know where my finances are andI was like, okay, so if
something happened to yourpartner, Right, Do you know
where all of their information,their documents are?
And they were like, oh, youknow, it's like just like you
(35:52):
don't need to have any fingersin the in the pot, Like if you
keep them separate, that's great, but you still need to have
some type of basic understandingof, like, exactly what happens
if, if something were to happento them, especially if you have
children together and all ofthat.
So it just there's so much thatgoes into it and I could talk
about this for ages.
But yeah, it's going to be abrunch and mimosas event for
(36:15):
women and I'm I'm so excited andI'm going to be speaking.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
So I'll be sharing that story.
Are you guys planning or haveyou thought about, like, is it
recorded?
Or a lot of our, our listeners,come from literally all over
the United States.
We're in 13 different countries, 73 different cities.
Have you guys ever thoughtabout like I don't know what to
call it a webinar of it?
Speaker 2 (36:41):
I don't even know if that's the right name or word
for it, but we are so in town,the, the in-person like
experience of the brunch andeverything is is definitely
going to be where you want to be, but if you are out of area, we
are looking at having a zoomoption.
So you can still tune in andget the information.
(37:03):
Love it.
So yeah, it's going to be.
It's going to be super fun.
Love it, the information.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
Love it.
So, yeah, it's going to be.
It's going to be super fun,love it.
We will have to post theinformation as Ms Molly gives it
to us for both future trainingsand episodes.
A lot of nurses need thatinformation.
We don't.
I mean, like, maybe in thepamphlets that we get from the
hospital or something like that.
That's our only exposure to it,unless you know somebody or
have somebody in your life likeyou that does that.
Yeah, we don't have onlyexposure to it, unless you know
somebody or have somebody inyour life like you that does
(37:28):
that.
Yeah, we don't have anyexposure to it.
So I think that is wildlyphenomenal and exciting for
coffee crystals and divination.
Last week we did two specialdecks.
One was Molly's Oracle deck andthe other was her Tarot deck
(37:53):
deck and the other was her tarotdeck.
And so this week, uh, would yoube willing to pull other cards
for, like the topic that wetalked about this week?
Sure, I love it.
The decks are going to be onsocials, um, if I can find links
.
And of course, we always wantto buy from the artists because
there's a lot of knockoffs andyou know ripoffs out there, and
we always want to buy from theartists, because there's a lot
of knockoffs and rip offs outthere and we always want to
support the artists.
So I will link as muchinformation as I can for the
decks that she's using, andyou're going to want to see the
(38:15):
pictures because they'reabsolutely stunning.
They're absolutely gorgeous andI think the creators of the
Oracle deck are they local.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
Yeah, they are not.
They're based out of Atlanta.
Oh okay, and they're called theSpirit Mamas.
This is the Spirit Mamas Oracle.
So they're Victoria Nielsen andTiffany Wilkes and they're
fantastic.
Yeah, this is so beautiful.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
Mothers themselves.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
Absolutely beautiful.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
And here we go, love it Put it literally flying out
of her hands while she'sshuffling.
Speaker 2 (38:43):
Let it all crumble down.
So on this card is the goddessKali, who very much tears down.
Get rid of all of the existingand shelves, constructs and
creates space for what needs tocome through.
So, yes, irrelevant.
(39:03):
That's amazing, I know, yep.
Speaker 1 (39:05):
Tear down the shelves .
Tear open the boxes.
Oh my, yes, totally irrelevant.
That's amazing, I know Yep.
Tear down the shelves.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
Tear open the boxes, oh my gosh.
And in the little guidebook,the first thing it says the
walls you've built were nevermeant to last.
It's time to tear them down andlet love in, Time to let go of
anger that you hold within.
Amazing.
Let go of any righteousness thatdoesn't Sorry, got to turn the
page of any righteousness thatdoesn't serve you any longer
because, guess what, it neverdid.
(39:29):
Even though you felt abandonedyou never were.
You were always supported byyour higher self and your guides
and angels.
That's amazing.
Release old hurts, replace themwith love, and Goddess Kali can
help you stop any old cycles ofgrief and feeling misunderstood
.
They're just your ego trying tokeep you separate.
Let all these old stories diewith her.
(39:51):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
Yes, literally is exactly what we're talking about
and being in that meditativespace.
In order to get there, you haveto do the work of cleaning the
garage, you have to break thewalls down and get rid of the
boxes and all the crap that wekeep cramming in boxes as nurses
.
That's wildly phenomenal.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
I just want to say between last week and this week
we did have two goddess cardsget pulled.
The whole deck is not full ofgoddesses.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
I was just like yeah, there's literally only seven in
this whole deck.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
This is hilarious.
Yeah, they wanted a strongreading.
They did.
That's all I've got to say.
We have some fierce feminineenergy coming in, oh I love it.
Speaker 1 (40:37):
So your tarot deck.
I'm going to shuffle thecrystal oracles so that I can
pull a stone for them for thisweek.
Oh, yeah, let's do that.
But will you pull a tarot cardfrom your deck that you brought,
of course, which I also love?
And while we were talking aboutit, after the recording for last
week, we were looking at thedeck and looking at the artwork
(40:58):
of it.
Uh, not sure of the name of it.
We're gonna hunt it down andI'll figure it out, but it
really reminds me of like aDisney animated feature that
they never released, like ifDisney, if there was a fairy
tale that was true to theorigins of fairy tales.
So, a little bit more horrorbased than Darker origin, yeah,
(41:18):
a little bit more horror based,darker kind of gothic images,
then done in the original, like,let's say, early cinderella, uh
, sleeping beauty, snow whitetype animation style that would.
The cards are oh, she's gonnahave to read this card, uh, and
(41:43):
I'll explain why later.
But the stone, oh, that I drewfor you guys this week as a uh
stone to have on you isLabradorite, and let me just get
to this really quickly here.
Um, a lot of times with thecards, while I may know the
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meanings intrinsically myself, Ialways defer to what the
artists include, because I wantI want to capture the spirit of
what they were imbuing theimagery with as they were
creating it.
So, labradorite, it istransmute, transformation,
intuition, spiritualenlightenment.
You are on the brink of themagnificent transformation, so
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prepare to break free from thatcocoon and embrace your inner
butterfly.
This card beckons you towelcome change and trust your
intuition as you navigate aperiod of growth and evolution.
Just as Labradorites,mesmerizing hues, reveal hidden
depths, it's time to transmutechallenges into opportunities
and listen to your inner wisdomwith confidence, spread your
(42:49):
wings wide and get ready to soarinto a new phase.
So keep your Labradorite handy,keep it on you this week,
because that is the crystaldivination for this week and, of
course, totally irrelevant, hadnothing to do with what we
talked about.
Speaker 2 (43:05):
It sounded like a much gentler version of the like
tear it all down so you canrebuild it in a better healthier
way, and so it's like itdoesn't have to be like this
violent tear it all down.
Oh, that's gorgeous, yeah, thatyou can do this in a way that
feels much more gentle.
Speaker 1 (43:25):
Right, so I love that .
If you're like me, you can takea wrecking ball to it.
So whichever way feels rightfor you.
Again, like we say on thispodcast, take what works for you
and leave the rest.
What?
Oh, oh, I.
Yeah, you have to hold thattarot card.
Um, if it's the one I, if youdrew the one I think you did.
Yeah, it's probably because youwere very against looking at it
(43:49):
I am a very arachnophobic.
For those that don't know me,even though this card is
beautiful, I, nope, can't lookat it so I just want to
disclaimer out there these arearchetypes and it is the devil
card okay, oh yeah so they arearchetypes, right?
Speaker 2 (44:05):
so?
So it doesn't mean that it doesnot be anything crazy.
We're not talking about theactual devil, or it's not
supposed to signify yes, If welook at what the representation
is there you know, thattemptation, you know, falling
into old patterns, things thatdo not serve.
you again, not on brand at allfor today.
You again, not on brand at allfor today.
(44:27):
Um, you know, this is this isalmost a warning to to not fall
into those old patterns and toagain, like you know, break out
of that.
Like you said, you're a bitarachnophobic.
The, the imagery on this cardis quite a large spider in the
middle of its web, and it's thatsame kind of concept of like,
don't get stuck in the web.
Speaker 1 (44:49):
So in the walls that you've built around you, exactly
so it is very very on pointthere as well.
Speaker 2 (44:57):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (44:58):
It's wildly amazing.
Well, hopefully we will be ableto have you back on the podcast
.
There's a million other topicsthat I could ask you.
I am and this is secret for mypodcast listeners because you
know we're going to pretendMolly doesn't hear what I'm
saying but that we can maybe dosome more focus on meditation
(45:20):
with Miss Molly and maybe futureepisodes.
But the experience has justbeen amazing.
If you guys didn't listen tolast week's episode, you're
going to want to, because someof the things that Molly touched
on, one of them happened to bethe best description of
therapeutic boundaries I thinkI've ever heard.
I'm glad that we're notvideoing these podcasts, because
(45:41):
the dumb look on my face whenthe light bulb went off when she
said what she said probablywould have turned into a meme.
But definitely listen to lastweek's podcast and I hope that
you thoroughly enjoyed this one.
Thank you so much, ms Molly.
I always love seeing you andyou guys out there.
Take care of yourselves.
Please be intentional with yourspace.
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Please give yourselves graceand patience as you navigate the
skills set of learning how tobe intentional, learning how to
be self-aware, how to ground,digging through those boxes and
unpacking them so that being ina meditative and healing space
can be something that is moreclose to the surface.
(46:23):
For you.
It's not such a fight to getthere, but give yourself
patience and space while you'redeveloping this.
It's not going to happenovernight and, as always, I love
your face and we'll talk to younext week.
This is your ritual nurse, reva.
Thanks for tuning in to theritual nurse podcast.
You can find us wherever youlisten to podcasts, so don't
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Until next time, love yourfaces.
Welcome to the Ritual Nurse, where healing meets
humor, science and a touch ofmagic.
Welcome to the Ritual Nursepodcast.
I am your host, reva, and thisis part two of our guest
episodes with the incredibleMolly.
If you did not get to listen tolast week's episode, you're
going to want to, because ourincredible guest is a postpartum
(00:35):
and death doula and Ayurvedichealth coach and the host of the
Busy Mom's Guide to Meditationpodcast, which is got a third
season out.
She's also a mom of threelittle ones, so she knows all
about balancing care for otherswhile trying to stay sane
herself.
Molly, welcome back to thepodcast.
(00:56):
Last week's episode was so muchfun.
I have so much fun recordingwith you and I think today we're
going to dive into what itmeans to hold space for others
without losing yourself in theprocess, how meditation can be
accessible even for those of uswith chaotic minds, and maybe
some simple suggestions aboutresilience and and ritual like
(01:19):
creating intentional space intoour everyday life.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Yeah, excited to do this again.
I love it.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
So, when it comes to meditation and self-healing, I
know that a lot of nurses likemyself are neurodivergent, but
many nurses and, of course, busymoms feel like they can't
meditate because their minds aretoo busy.
How do you approach meditationfor people who struggle with
stillness?
Speaker 2 (01:46):
The first thing I want to touch on is when your
mind is too busy.
A lot of times, people will tryto sit and clear their mind and
push all the thoughts out, andthat is a surefire way to not be
successful.
Right, yes, I can attest to thathighly to not be successful,
(02:07):
right, yes, I can attest to thathighly.
So the first thing is to justlike witness your thoughts, let
them come in and then try to nothold onto them, let them pass,
and that does take practice.
But as far as for people whostruggle with stillness, I know
with three little ones runningaround, I hardly get a chance to
(02:27):
sit down during the day, muchless meditate in the traditional
sense.
So if you are like very manyother people out there, who
imagines Buddha sitting on topof a hill for hours on end with
his eyes closed and legs crossedsitting on the ground, it's a
(02:48):
very serene scene, but it's notvery applicable to today's
society.
So what I like to recommend isdo it while dancing or walking
or simply put on your favoritesong and just let yourself be
immersed in that.
Personally, I like to crochet,and that is something that I can
(03:09):
do, that I just get into thegroove and it's something that I
can immerse myself either in mythoughts and let them kind of
just flow in and out, orsomething to just kind of like
focus on and lose myself in fora little bit, or something to
just kind of like focus on andlose myself in for a little bit.
It's repetitive, it's funny.
My husband and I talk aboutthis and he calls his meditation
(03:30):
days.
When he has days off and hewill schedule it into our
calendar He'll go, especially inthe winter, up to the ski
resorts and he'll have even ahalf day where he'll go skiing
or snowboarding and that's whathe calls his meditation Right.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Which is immersing himself in something.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Yes, and he's doing something he loves and it's
something that he can just kindof not be so focused on what is
right in front of you, but to toget into your body.
Yeah, Um, and so it's one ofthose things like you have 10
minutes Awesome, If you have aminute to just kind of like
breathe, get back to whateveryou were doing, it's better than
(04:10):
not doing it.
Or maybe it's like you havetime for one song Right Before
you, like when you get to work,before you have to run inside
and you can just be fullypresent.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Everybody knows the parking lot song.
Yes.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Yes, right, fully present in the moment, and so
it's kind of one of those thingslike well, if that is the time
you have, make it happen.
I've even utilized like whilecooking dinner or while
vacuuming or folding laundry tohave just kind of like the, the
awareness of like, okay, well,I'm going to, I'm going to use
(04:43):
this time to slip into thatmindset, so you're intentional
with it.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Yes, like you're intentional with it and what I'm
hearing?
So, first of all, mind blown,because anytime that I've ever
thought about meditating, it'slike, okay, I have to have yoga
pants on and like somewhere tosit.
Or, you know, if I lay down I'mgoing to go to sleep, so I've
got to have somewhere to sit andlike do this whole meditation,
meditation thing?
Like never once have I everthought of doing it in like in
(05:07):
normal space, like, for somereason, I always thought you had
to like create this likespecial, like meditation space,
and like be a certain way or sita certain way, or I don't, I
don't even know where I got thatfrom.
But to think about it in thiscontext, yeah, I don't know how
many times I've sat in theparking garage before going into
a shift at work.
My vehicle I bought my vehiclebecause of the set Well, and
(05:30):
it's a mermaid Jeep, but becauseof the sound system, because
I'm so kinesthetic and I losemyself in the music and just
being fully absorbed in it.
And it's kinesthetic enoughthat my brain offers no
objection, it doesn't try tomake up thoughts, or you know,
(05:51):
suddenly, like some weird spoton my left hip is is it supposed
to be feeling like that?
I wonder what that you know?
And then off I go down therabbit hole.
I've never, ever thought of itin that purpose.
Sure, I've listened to musicwhile meditating, or tried to,
but it's always like meditatingkind of music, you know, like
the soothing, whatever kind ofstuff.
Great.
My brain is not soothingwhatever.
(06:12):
Most of the time it's nothaving it.
So this is incredible, and Iwouldn't though it wouldn't work
though if I wasn't intentionalbeforehand about that's what I'm
going to do with this time,while I'm doing something.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Yeah, it's really just anything that you can use
to get yourself into your bodyand into the present moment.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Yeah, yeah, that's wildly effective imagery in that
regard, and especially forthose of us that maybe there's
not often time.
You know if we get a lunchbreak during a shift, um,
depending on where you work, ofcourse.
Uh, here in Nevada it's.
We don't have guaranteed breaktimes or break nurses, and you
(06:56):
know I've gone quite routinely.
You go a shift without a break,um, or at least you'll go 10
hours into a shift without abreak.
So to be able to intentionallyhave you know the I know I
mentioned this in anotherpodcast, but the whole linen
closet supply closet thing is areal thing, people but to have
you know intentionally, like Iam going to step off the floor
(07:18):
for two minutes and I don't knowwhatever it is that I'm doing,
I have two minutes to just getmy shit together, basically, but
being intentional about it as away to ground and like recenter
myself in myself, because weget so unwound, running from
(07:38):
patient to patient, answeringphones, taking notes Did I
document this?
Did I chart this?
That person screaming likewhatever's happening right, that
to know you can do it inwhatever time you have, and the
thought process that something,a little something, is better
than nothing, yeah, and touching, definitely in touching base
(08:00):
that way, that's wildly amazing.
So, on the heels of that, sowhat is like?
What is like one simple way,like if I'm in a 12 hour shift
and I'm running around and Ihave like two minutes, what
would you recommend?
If I'm going to be intentionalbut, like I want to center
myself or ground myself, isthere a, a method or a go-to for
(08:23):
you that would help beginnersconnect with that process?
Cause it's easy for me to sayit, but for me to like
physically, try to do it.
Like what do I do?
Like do I start with breathing?
Or like should I like I don'tknow, like what would you
recommend for a beginner Like,hey, if you've got like two
minutes, do this thing and focuson grounding yourself?
(08:44):
What would it?
What might it be?
Speaker 2 (08:45):
I really like just the traditional slow, deep
breaths.
Okay, if you are getting caughtup in what is happening and
you're rushing from place toplace and, like you said,
there's there's things happeningall around you.
Did I do this, did I do that,just finding a space to slow
your breathing and even tryingto make your exhale longer than
(09:06):
your inhale.
Okay, so, like the, not the boxbreathing, but the other
breathing yeah, I think youmentioned it in the second or
third podcast, and if you enjoyeither of those, any of those
breathing methods, you can usethose as well.
But simply just slowing yourbreath down and lengthening your
breath, which sometimes willsome people need practice doing
(09:29):
that, but slowing your breathwill slow your mind, yes, and so
that is something you canintentionally do just to find a
pocket of peace in that moment.
That being said, I know that thedeep breathing doesn't work for
everybody.
I've met quite a few peoplethat that just isn't really
their jam.
So the alternative that Ipersonally really love is it's a
(09:54):
tapping method, oh, okay, butit's like uh, I don't know, it's
like the butterfly hand I don'tknow what the actual name for
it is but basically laying likeone hand over each other on your
chest palm to the back of yourhand, yeah, palm to the back of
your hand, on the center of yourchest, and you tap, alternating
(10:14):
with your fingertips.
And what is really great aboutthis is that you can tailor it
to what you need or what yourbody is is wanting in that
moment.
Because you alternate yourhands, you can do it as fast or
as slow as you want and with asmuch or as little pressure as
you need, just to kind of pullyou out of your head and back
(10:36):
into your body.
I think this is going to be likea theme today, because it's the
second or third time, I've saidit already, but like just
really getting back andgrounding back into your body is
yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
I think that's vastly important, because we come and
I think most nurses would attestto this, maybe not in so many
words, but when we are in thatstate, we are operating out of
necessity, in fight or flightmode, out of necessity, in fight
(11:09):
or flight mode, and so we arekind of intrinsically out of our
body because our priorperception and our, our function
and our senses are gearedtowards emergently responding to
things.
Or I mean, even if it's not anemergency, but you're trying to
handle 10 patients on a medsearch floor, you're still
running in that mode and anxietyis still high or stress is
still high.
So to be able to come back intoyourself is regaining a sense
(11:31):
of control.
You're not just being pulled bythis current of immediacy
that's pushing and pulling you,even if it's, you know, even
like a labor and delivery floorand it's positive and there's
all these gorgeous babies andthis is awesome.
They're still immediacy andthey're still stress and they're
still anxiety and it's stillpushing and pulling you like
(11:51):
this current.
So to be able to groundyourself and kind of like, okay,
I'm going to be a rock sittingin the middle of the stream for
a moment and I'm not going tomove, but to do that you got to
find footing.
You have to find purchase.
Yes, and the I for our readers.
(12:12):
You know I have not startedvideo podcasting this but to put
the flat of one of your handson your sternum so that your
fingertips are kind of towardsyour collarbone, and then repeat
the the motion with the otherhand and put it palm to the back
of your hand so that thefingers are pointing towards the
other collarbone is what Mollywas doing with her hands and
tapping in this space underneatheither collarbone or, you know,
(12:33):
right on your chest.
Alternating is tapping is amethod.
It's used in EMDR, it's used inpost-traumatic stress disorder
treatments, emotionaldysregulation, dbt therapy I
think some not my professionalwheelhouse, so I could be
speaking out of turn butalternating the tapping is also
(12:54):
alternating your left and rightbrain signals and making the
brain slow down enough tofunction as one rather than
being solely in your left orsolely in your right.
So I think that's an incrediblemethod to.
Those are both really goodoptions.
Could you do both at the sametime?
Oh yeah, oh yeah.
(13:14):
Awesome, and I can see thatreally working for people who
maybe the breathing aspect stillleaves their mind too free to
continue bouncing around like aping pong ball in a room?
Yeah, but the tapping andyou're focusing on making it
alternate.
You have to actually focus onit being alternate.
(13:36):
While you're breathing, youoccupy.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
On the body?
Yes, because it quite literallybrings your focus into what is
happening on your chest.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
What does that feel like?
Speaker 2 (13:49):
And so it quite literally pulls you into that
bodily sensation, that'sincredible, that's amazing.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
And so it quite literally pulls you into that
bodily sensation.
That's incredible.
That's amazing.
I think people tend to do thisinnately as a stimming on their
legs or tapping their feet ortapping their fingers on things,
without realizing it.
So, intentionally, doing it ina space that's focused on your
core, I mean right over yoursternum, is basically your core
(14:16):
is perfect to really kind oflike draw you into that.
That's amazing.
Do you incorporate Ayurvedicprinciples or meditation?
Do you have that as a ritualhabit in your life?
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Well Ayurveda is, it encompasses a whole lifestyle,
right?
So a lot of times people thinkof it as like the diet piece and
how you're eating and the wayyou eat it, but really it it
does involve like the entirelike.
What does your lifestyle looklike?
So in Ayurveda it's calledDhinacharya and that is your,
(14:54):
your daily routine, your morningroutine, and I think you have a
name for your daily routine.
Yes, so having that kind of setroutine, like in the morning,
obviously it looks different foreverybody, depending on your
situation.
For me, with kids, I'm tryingto get out of the door for
school and whatnot.
You know my bare minimum isbeing able to wake up.
(15:16):
You know you splash some wateron your face, brush your teeth,
run a brush or some fingersthrough your hair.
And then I always like to drinka glass of like warm water
before anything else, and havingthat be kind of the set thing
that happens every morning.
Your body finds ease in routineand so it knows what to expect.
(15:40):
And then, even farther thanthat, if you eat the same
breakfast every morning, yourbody even will learn to expect
that, and it will start makingthe enzymes to digest that.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Absolutely it will.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Yes, before you even like get to have the food in
front of you, and so it.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
It eases digestion, then, and so it's like a way to
lower stress in a very justbecause if your body is
expecting what's coming, theparasympathetic nervous system
is what can respond instead ofthe sympathetic.
The body doesn't understand thedifference between pancakes or
a jump scare, like it reallydoesn't.
If it's not expecting a stimuli, no matter what the stimuli is,
(16:20):
whether it's your beautifulchild whispering in your ear at
one in the morning or you knowsurprise pancakes, it's
terrifying.
Your body reacts first with thesympathetic nervous system
until the brain can cognitivelyprocess what it's looking at
Correct For the parasympatheticnervous system to kick in.
(16:41):
So I've never, ever thoughtabout that.
Well, having ADHD routine andpredictable structure probably
isn't something I think aboutnormally.
It's probably something youneed Actual.
That is probably something youneed in actual.
But that's really mind blowingto me because having that kind
of structure allows you to stayout of your fight or flight mode
(17:03):
and that's so integral tolowering stress for nurses,
whose entire job is going tokeep them in it, probably 70 to
80 percent of the time, nomatter what field you're in.
Yeah, I'm not just speakingfrom experience, like from ICU
or ER experience.
That is such an incredibleconcept.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Well, and it goes back to you know, the ritual
aspect of this podcast.
It's like if you have thosedaily rituals that you do every
single day around the same timeevery day it helps to pull your
body kind of out of that fightor flight.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
And it's done with intention.
Yes, it is done with intention.
On that note, I wish that youguys could just stay with us the
entire time, but if you have tohead back to the floor, I
really hope that you are havinga wonderful shift and that you
get a few moments of intentionalspace that you need If you're
going to hang out with us andyou don't have to run back to
the floor.
(17:59):
Use this musical interlude torefresh your coffee, your tea,
just get into a more comfortableposition, and Molly and I are
going to return after the break.
We are going to talk about acouple cool, um, maybe practices
or maybe a personal intentionalspace that either one of us, uh
, like to create, and we'regonna cover that and go over it
(18:24):
after the break.
So we'll talk to you guysshortly.
And stone breaks, the darkness,a new day begins.
I feel cold and heartless.
I've run myself in Like thedistant star.
(18:48):
Have you traveled?
Speaker 2 (18:52):
far.
I miss you in my arms.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
Welcome back.
Thank you, guys so much forsticking with us.
So before the break we wereactually really connecting the
idea of the ritual spaces thatwe create for ourselves, and
doing it with intention.
And when it comes to, like highstress, caregiving professions,
a lot of the work that you do,um as a death doula, um, are
(19:30):
there any specific meditationpractices that are more
recommended for that kind ofprofession, or is it just get in
what you can when you can?
Is there a specific type ofmeditation that's more
beneficial than another?
This isn't my wheelhouse.
I don't know if there's evendifferent types.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
I think there's as many different types of
meditation for as many differenttypes of people out there.
Okay, and I think, instead oftrying to fit in a box of like,
this is how I should bemeditating, because X, y and Z,
I think leaning on what worksbest for you is is the most
(20:11):
important thing, because if it'snot going to work for you, then
it's not going to work.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
You're not going to do it, no matter what.
It's just like our patients.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Exactly, and so.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
If it's not going to work for them, they can't be
compliant.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Correct.
So it's kind of one of thosejust like making sure you find
what works, I think is the mostimportant thing.
Like if you haven't found thetype of meditation that works
(20:41):
for you yet don't give up.
I think would be like thebiggest thing that I would say,
because there are so manydifferent types out there, and
just cause you haven't foundwhat works for you yet, it
doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
Right, I think I fall into that trap a lot because
I've had so much frustrationtrying to quote, unquote do
meditation the right way?
Or I guess just what is, likeyou know, most typically
represented on social media orwhatever we're exposed to and
not having studied it, nothaving exposure to someone who
(21:08):
has studied it, I think one ofthe things that I've been able
to learn from you is that theway my mind works, I'm not, I
don't have to fight withmeditation.
The whole point is to do it inconcert with how I am normally,
like bottling up or or keepingthe flow of who I am, or my
(21:29):
energies am, or my energies, youknow, like in a maze that I'm
trying to navigate, versusremoving all the floodgates and
letting it flow in its naturalpattern.
I think speaks a lot to notgiving up on meditation, and I
don't even think I mean, does itreally need to be called
meditation?
Like, yes, that is a practiceand that's what you're doing
(21:51):
specifically, but what about theaspect of grounding?
Is grounding different thanmeditation?
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Not necessarily.
I had a teacher back in mycourses within Ayurveda and she
would say like meditation.
The goal is like meditation isa way of life.
Okay, and so like again, you'renot going to be sitting for 24
hours a day sitting andmeditating, and so if you can
(22:19):
find it's a mindset and if youcan shift into that mindset at
any point and that includes likethis is after you've been able
to like process your emotions.
Yes, and everything, and likeif, because if you're holding
(22:42):
onto stuff, it makes it reallyhard to shift into that mindset
at a given moment.
Right, Like a pure, likeexpression of emotion good, bad,
sad, whatever is 90 seconds.
When was the last time you feltan emotion for only 90 seconds?
Oh, yeah, no, Right, Like we'reso conditioned to like hold on
to emotions and let them outwhen it's quote, unquote,
appropriate, and so it causes alot of of issues in the body and
(23:07):
it just gets kind of stagnant.
And so I know, in workingespecially with my kids, you
know, seeing how they're able tokind of like process that
they're so excited or they'recrying or having a tantrum,
they're angry, and then the nextthing, you know, they flip the
switch and now they're fine andthey're like well, I'm kind of
hungry now and I'm like waitwhat?
(23:29):
And it's because they're notholding on to that.
And so I think, yeah, justbeing able to do the work to be
able to get to that point ofbeing able to get into that
mindset when you need to.
That makes sense.
And again, just being in thatpresent moment, which is really
kind of where that meditativemindset is, is kind of that
(23:51):
sweet spot.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
That's that makes a lot of sense and it really
speaks to like.
I think everybody just thinksthat you know, you should just
be able to find some kind ofhurts or frequency or sound or
you know, ohm, or something thatlike you sit down and if you
can sit cross-legged, sitcross-legged and do this thing
(24:13):
and suddenly you're meditating.
But the act of intentionallystaying in that mind space, or
being able to move into thatmind space, means that you have
to be really self-aware and youhave to do the work of keeping
yourself healthy emotionally.
Yeah, and we as nurses as I wastalking about Jamie, one of the
prior guests on the podcast weare not taught how to do any of
(24:38):
this.
So our only recourse, I'd sayfor like 90% of nurses out there
, is we shove things in boxesyou know metaphorical boxes and
they're put on shelves in ourpsyche and we just cram things
in them and put it away and wecan talk about it.
You'll notice that a lot ofnurses are able to talk about
(24:58):
really horrific or traumaticexperiences with really not too
much emotion.
Compartmentalization,absolutely Like wild, like it's
yeah, it's, it's, it's reallybad.
I mean, it's a maladaptivecoping mechanism, but nurses
aren't taught any of this inschool and then when we get into
the field, there isn't spacefor this, which is part and
(25:21):
parcel of the whole reason theritual nurse podcast is is here.
So I think that people need togive themselves patience.
I think they need to be givethemselves grace and be patient
with themselves, I guess, iswhat usually rely on my senses,
(25:59):
like touching base with my fivesenses, because for some reason
it just reminds me that itbrings me, I guess, into the
physical.
I'm very kinesthetic, so I willusually identify something that
I can see and I have, I'vealways had in my locker at work.
We don't usually wear perfumesand things like that, but
(26:20):
essential oils especially thosethat are not sharp but like
citrus or mint, not somethingsoft it for me personally, it
usually has to be something thatgrabs my attention
kinesthetically as a sense.
Ice and drinking ice water,sipping on ice water, the
coolness I will usually envisionlike actually sinking into ice
(26:49):
cold water.
And in DBT we call that tip asa method of helping with
emotional dysregulation, which Ihad no idea about until I
learned about DBT.
But I was doing thisintrinsically as a grounding
practice for knowing that, eventhough I didn't know why it was
working, just knowing that whatit was doing was giving me
(27:09):
clarity and calming my mind andI was able to return back to
razor sharp focus and walk intothe next code or do whatever I
was doing.
And it would take seconds.
It would just take seconds,yeah.
So I think.
Is there anything that you dolike that, when you are at work,
like let's say that you're notat home, like you can't really,
(27:32):
you know you're caring for afamily or you're in the midst of
dealing with something Is thereanything that you do?
You know, like the rubber bandthing that people do sometimes,
like that quick, like personally, it just brings you like to
where you need to be and thenyou can keep functioning.
Is there anything you do that'sfast, like that?
Because I'm sure, I'm darn sure, that, being in the spaces I've
(27:54):
been in, that you experience alot of intense emotional moments
that you can't just like duckout of the room, right out of
the room.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
Right, I'm trying to think because, well and
everything I'm hearing, you'resaying the like, snapping the
band on the wrist or thesmelling of the the very like
lively we'll call them scents,or even the ice water is.
It's a.
It's a snap back into your bodyRight and, to be honest, like
(28:23):
when I'm in it working withfamily I'm sure like plenty of
nurses can relate to this it'slike when you're in it you kind
of like can forget to do that inthe moment and then as soon as
you're out of there, you're likeokay, whoa, I need to come back
to that.
If I'm able to like outdoors,fresh air is my like jolt to the
(28:44):
system.
If I can like, I'll open awindow.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
If I'm working from home.
I was just going to say that.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
Like, even if you need to stick your head out the
window for a second and breathefresh air.
Yes, I know I work from home alot, um and so, like I will,
I'll open up my whole house, andI know the last couple of days
have been really nice.
I've been able to open up thewhole house and it's been
fantastic.
I'm like, oh, we're at this timeof year again, but it is one of
those things that really justkind of like brings me back into
(29:13):
the self, but it is somethingthat I'm not doing in the moment
.
So I find that reallyinteresting that you asked that,
because I'm like I I don't knowif I have something that just
is like adult in the moment.
I'll usually have tea orsomething, and so maybe you know
that, like I noticed, if I gethigher emotions I drink faster
(29:34):
or like I'm sipping more oftenand sometimes that will be.
It'll kind of create that handbrain connection where I'm like
whoa, I need to slow down, takea second Right, exactly, and
then that brings me back to likethe Whoa, I need to slow down,
take a second, exactly, and thenthat brings me back to like the
breath work and stuff.
But yeah, that's interesting.
That's something that I couldbe better at.
(29:55):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
And I think you know, obviously, in the middle of a
code, I know actually, now thatI'm thinking about it, I have
done it in the middle of a code.
No, actually, now that I'mthinking about it, I have done
it in the middle of a code.
When I notice that I'm startingto feel like I can't keep up
with the timing and it's likethis hint of frenetic energy, I
(30:20):
actually will focus on somethinglike whether it's a sound of
something and it's just for afew brief seconds, and I didn't.
I until now, I didn't actuallythink about the fact that that I
have done this in codes beforeand it returns me to, I guess it
just gets all the freeway laneslike into one lane with my
(30:42):
brain and I'm able to processthe data that I'm collecting and
get back on track.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
Well, it almost like pulls you out of, like the
tunnel vision because you focuson something like external,
exactly.
So you kind of gain thatperspective.
Yes, so that, yeah, that'sgreat.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
Yeah, yeah, I have actually done that in codes, I
think, when it comes tooverwhelm, have actually done
that in codes.
I think, when it comes tooverwhelm, and I'm, and I,
whether it's ice water or I'm,you know, running by my locker
to to grab something and justkind of, like you know, inhale
whatever essential oil it is orwhatever that is more of along
the same lines as you like, youknow when that, when the moment
(31:23):
has passed and you're, you'vehandled that situation and you
step out for a moment, thatbreath of fresh air.
You know, I don't know how many, so many nurses can relate to
this.
Actually, like I'm going tostep outside for a moment, cause
even being in the physicalspace of the energy affects you.
Yes, and that might be woo woofor some.
You know, take it or leave it.
If it works for you, Great.
(31:44):
If it's a concept that you'relike, I don't believe in that,
not a problem.
But I do.
I really do challenge you tolook at your environment and the
energy that is in yourenvironment and then what
happens when you step outside,whether it's to step off the
floor to take an elevator rideup or down two floors, to walk
(32:05):
in the parking garage, whateverit is, but getting off of that
floor, not even just out of theroom, but off of the floor for a
moment and see what happens,because the energy that is
circulating, it's palpable.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
And we react to others.
You know, uh, micro expressionsand body language, and we're
picking up on things.
As we're still animals, we'restill mammals.
We're picking up on things andreacting to it.
So I think I do both.
I've always kind of justmarried my perception of it as
(32:41):
well.
This is what I do in the moment, but there is actually a
separation.
Um and I didn't realize thatuntil you were saying what
you're saying I'm like, wait,that is true.
I actually like do it differentways.
I do, in the moment, have hadto bring myself back to zero by
focusing on one thing, and Iusually only have like maybe two
seconds to do it.
(33:01):
But the other stuff I do out ofthe moment kind of, even if I
only have a few seconds to do it.
That's interesting.
Yeah, it's weird when you talkabout it that you're not aware
of what you're doing until youvocalize it, right?
Speaker 2 (33:17):
Well, and it can also be that we all do these little
things to kind of get out ofthat tunnel vision right.
But we usually do it withoutthinking about it, right, and so
it is kind of one of thosethings that like once you
realize what it is you're doingor what that little thing is,
(33:37):
you can start pulling it inintentionally.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
Yeah, absolutely, um, and I think like, now that I've
vocalized it, I can see myselfactually, like, now that I've
vocalized it, I can see myselfactually because now I've
vocalized it, so I know it's athing like utilizing it.
Yes, like actually stopping todo it for a moment, maybe even
before.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
I get so unwound to it.
Yeah, into it.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
Yeah, man, that makes so much sense.
So I did want to ask is thereany like exciting projects
before we get to our coffee andcrystals and divination section?
Is there any exciting projectsor things coming up for you that
you wanted to to talk aboutwith our listeners?
Speaker 2 (34:21):
Sure.
So yeah, I think I mentionedreal quick in the in the last
episode that within like all ofthe death doula work and stuff,
I also work in financialservices helping people with
just kind of like protectingtheir finances and creating a
(34:42):
legacy and you know whateverthat looks like for them.
And we're super excited Ouroffice is going to be holding an
event next month for womenthat's incredible Specifically
just to share financialeducation for women, because
financial education isn'tsomething that is widely taught
(35:02):
in schools.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
I know it is not at all in nursing school.
Yeah, whatsoever.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
Well, and yeah, it's something that a lot of times as
women, I think the statistic islike half of all married women
will just defer financialdecisions to their husbands.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
Yeah, and I know I've been, you know, part of that
statistic and whichever partneris better at the math or the
left brain thing, or you know.
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
But it just it's really interesting and the more
women I talk to, there's a lotof different mindsets around
this, of anything from like,well, my finances are separate,
I know where my finances are andI was like, okay, so if
something happened to yourpartner, Right, Do you know
where all of their information,their documents are?
And they were like, oh, youknow, it's like just like you
(35:52):
don't need to have any fingersin the in the pot, Like if you
keep them separate, that's great, but you still need to have
some type of basic understandingof, like, exactly what happens
if, if something were to happento them, especially if you have
children together and all ofthat.
So it just there's so much thatgoes into it and I could talk
about this for ages.
But yeah, it's going to be abrunch and mimosas event for
(36:15):
women and I'm I'm so excited andI'm going to be speaking.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
So I'll be sharing that story.
Are you guys planning or haveyou thought about, like, is it
recorded?
Or a lot of our, our listeners,come from literally all over
the United States.
We're in 13 different countries, 73 different cities.
Have you guys ever thoughtabout like I don't know what to
call it a webinar of it?
Speaker 2 (36:41):
I don't even know if that's the right name or word
for it, but we are so in town,the, the in-person like
experience of the brunch andeverything is is definitely
going to be where you want to be, but if you are out of area, we
are looking at having a zoomoption.
So you can still tune in andget the information.
(37:03):
Love it.
So yeah, it's going to be.
It's going to be super fun.
Love it, the information.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
Love it.
So, yeah, it's going to be.
It's going to be super fun,love it.
We will have to post theinformation as Ms Molly gives it
to us for both future trainingsand episodes.
A lot of nurses need thatinformation.
We don't.
I mean, like, maybe in thepamphlets that we get from the
hospital or something like that.
That's our only exposure to it,unless you know somebody or
have somebody in your life likeyou that does that.
Yeah, we don't have onlyexposure to it, unless you know
somebody or have somebody inyour life like you that does
(37:28):
that.
Yeah, we don't have anyexposure to it.
So I think that is wildlyphenomenal and exciting for
coffee crystals and divination.
Last week we did two specialdecks.
One was Molly's Oracle deck andthe other was her Tarot deck
(37:53):
deck and the other was her tarotdeck.
And so this week, uh, would yoube willing to pull other cards
for, like the topic that wetalked about this week?
Sure, I love it.
The decks are going to be onsocials, um, if I can find links
.
And of course, we always wantto buy from the artists because
there's a lot of knockoffs andyou know ripoffs out there, and
we always want to buy from theartists, because there's a lot
of knockoffs and rip offs outthere and we always want to
support the artists.
So I will link as muchinformation as I can for the
decks that she's using, andyou're going to want to see the
(38:15):
pictures because they'reabsolutely stunning.
They're absolutely gorgeous andI think the creators of the
Oracle deck are they local.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
Yeah, they are not.
They're based out of Atlanta.
Oh okay, and they're called theSpirit Mamas.
This is the Spirit Mamas Oracle.
So they're Victoria Nielsen andTiffany Wilkes and they're
fantastic.
Yeah, this is so beautiful.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
Mothers themselves.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
Absolutely beautiful.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
And here we go, love it Put it literally flying out
of her hands while she'sshuffling.
Speaker 2 (38:43):
Let it all crumble down.
So on this card is the goddessKali, who very much tears down.
Get rid of all of the existingand shelves, constructs and
creates space for what needs tocome through.
So, yes, irrelevant.
(39:03):
That's amazing, I know, yep.
Speaker 1 (39:05):
Tear down the shelves .
Tear open the boxes.
Oh my, yes, totally irrelevant.
That's amazing, I know Yep.
Tear down the shelves.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
Tear open the boxes, oh my gosh.
And in the little guidebook,the first thing it says the
walls you've built were nevermeant to last.
It's time to tear them down andlet love in, Time to let go of
anger that you hold within.
Amazing.
Let go of any righteousness thatdoesn't Sorry, got to turn the
page of any righteousness thatdoesn't serve you any longer
because, guess what, it neverdid.
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Even though you felt abandonedyou never were.
You were always supported byyour higher self and your guides
and angels.
That's amazing.
Release old hurts, replace themwith love, and Goddess Kali can
help you stop any old cycles ofgrief and feeling misunderstood
.
They're just your ego trying tokeep you separate.
Let all these old stories diewith her.
(39:51):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
Yes, literally is exactly what we're talking about
and being in that meditativespace.
In order to get there, you haveto do the work of cleaning the
garage, you have to break thewalls down and get rid of the
boxes and all the crap that wekeep cramming in boxes as nurses
.
That's wildly phenomenal.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
I just want to say between last week and this week
we did have two goddess cardsget pulled.
The whole deck is not full ofgoddesses.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
I was just like yeah, there's literally only seven in
this whole deck.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
This is hilarious.
Yeah, they wanted a strongreading.
They did.
That's all I've got to say.
We have some fierce feminineenergy coming in, oh I love it.
Speaker 1 (40:37):
So your tarot deck.
I'm going to shuffle thecrystal oracles so that I can
pull a stone for them for thisweek.
Oh, yeah, let's do that.
But will you pull a tarot cardfrom your deck that you brought,
of course, which I also love?
And while we were talking aboutit, after the recording for last
week, we were looking at thedeck and looking at the artwork
(40:58):
of it.
Uh, not sure of the name of it.
We're gonna hunt it down andI'll figure it out, but it
really reminds me of like aDisney animated feature that
they never released, like ifDisney, if there was a fairy
tale that was true to theorigins of fairy tales.
So, a little bit more horrorbased than Darker origin, yeah,
(41:18):
a little bit more horror based,darker kind of gothic images,
then done in the original, like,let's say, early cinderella, uh
, sleeping beauty, snow whitetype animation style that would.
The cards are oh, she's gonnahave to read this card, uh, and
(41:43):
I'll explain why later.
But the stone, oh, that I drewfor you guys this week as a uh
stone to have on you isLabradorite, and let me just get
to this really quickly here.
Um, a lot of times with thecards, while I may know the
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meanings intrinsically myself, Ialways defer to what the
artists include, because I wantI want to capture the spirit of
what they were imbuing theimagery with as they were
creating it.
So, labradorite, it istransmute, transformation,
intuition, spiritualenlightenment.
You are on the brink of themagnificent transformation, so
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prepare to break free from thatcocoon and embrace your inner
butterfly.
This card beckons you towelcome change and trust your
intuition as you navigate aperiod of growth and evolution.
Just as Labradorites,mesmerizing hues, reveal hidden
depths, it's time to transmutechallenges into opportunities
and listen to your inner wisdomwith confidence, spread your
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wings wide and get ready to soarinto a new phase.
So keep your Labradorite handy,keep it on you this week,
because that is the crystaldivination for this week and, of
course, totally irrelevant, hadnothing to do with what we
talked about.
Speaker 2 (43:05):
It sounded like a much gentler version of the like
tear it all down so you canrebuild it in a better healthier
way, and so it's like itdoesn't have to be like this
violent tear it all down.
Oh, that's gorgeous, yeah, thatyou can do this in a way that
feels much more gentle.
Speaker 1 (43:25):
Right, so I love that .
If you're like me, you can takea wrecking ball to it.
So whichever way feels rightfor you.
Again, like we say on thispodcast, take what works for you
and leave the rest.
What?
Oh, oh, I.
Yeah, you have to hold thattarot card.
Um, if it's the one I, if youdrew the one I think you did.
Yeah, it's probably because youwere very against looking at it
(43:49):
I am a very arachnophobic.
For those that don't know me,even though this card is
beautiful, I, nope, can't lookat it so I just want to
disclaimer out there these arearchetypes and it is the devil
card okay, oh yeah so they arearchetypes, right?
Speaker 2 (44:05):
so?
So it doesn't mean that it doesnot be anything crazy.
We're not talking about theactual devil, or it's not
supposed to signify yes, If welook at what the representation
is there you know, thattemptation, you know, falling
into old patterns, things thatdo not serve.
you again, not on brand at allfor today.
You again, not on brand at allfor today.
(44:27):
Um, you know, this is this isalmost a warning to to not fall
into those old patterns and toagain, like you know, break out
of that.
Like you said, you're a bitarachnophobic.
The, the imagery on this cardis quite a large spider in the
middle of its web, and it's thatsame kind of concept of like,
don't get stuck in the web.
Speaker 1 (44:49):
So in the walls that you've built around you, exactly
so it is very very on pointthere as well.
Speaker 2 (44:57):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (44:58):
It's wildly amazing.
Well, hopefully we will be ableto have you back on the podcast
.
There's a million other topicsthat I could ask you.
I am and this is secret for mypodcast listeners because you
know we're going to pretendMolly doesn't hear what I'm
saying but that we can maybe dosome more focus on meditation
(45:20):
with Miss Molly and maybe futureepisodes.
But the experience has justbeen amazing.
If you guys didn't listen tolast week's episode, you're
going to want to, because someof the things that Molly touched
on, one of them happened to bethe best description of
therapeutic boundaries I thinkI've ever heard.
I'm glad that we're notvideoing these podcasts, because
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the dumb look on my face whenthe light bulb went off when she
said what she said probablywould have turned into a meme.
But definitely listen to lastweek's podcast and I hope that
you thoroughly enjoyed this one.
Thank you so much, ms Molly.
I always love seeing you andyou guys out there.
Take care of yourselves.
Please be intentional with yourspace.
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Please give yourselves graceand patience as you navigate the
skills set of learning how tobe intentional, learning how to
be self-aware, how to ground,digging through those boxes and
unpacking them so that being ina meditative and healing space
can be something that is moreclose to the surface.
(46:23):
For you.
It's not such a fight to getthere, but give yourself
patience and space while you'redeveloping this.
It's not going to happenovernight and, as always, I love
your face and we'll talk to younext week.
This is your ritual nurse, reva.
Thanks for tuning in to theritual nurse podcast.
You can find us wherever youlisten to podcasts, so don't
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