Episode 29 - Angel Studios: Reclaiming Entertainment

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Angel Studios has changed the game in entertainment, offering powerful alternatives to secular streaming content. In this episode, Jarus and Jonny dive into how a small filtering service, VidAngel, evolved into a major production company behind some of today’s most talked-about Christian media.

From the record-breaking biblical drama The Chosen to the controversial yet impactful Sound of Freedom, we explore how Angel Studios creates faith-driven content through community-backed funding. Plus, we take a look at family-friendly hits like The Wingfeather Saga and Tuttle Twins, along with the anime-inspired Gabriel and the Guardians.

💡 Can Christian media appeal to broader audiences while staying true to its values? How does Angel Studios balance theological differences while making high-quality content? We break it all down in this thought-provoking conversation.

📢 Let us know your thoughts! Do you watch Angel Studios' productions? What are your favorites? Drop a comment below!

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 2 (00:02):
Welcome to the Saints that Serve, podcast where, each
week, your hosts dive into thecrossroads of faith, culture and
the unknown.

Speaker 1 (00:14):
Christ is Lord and the kingdom is now.
We are the Saints that Serve.
Hey everybody, welcome toepisode 29 of the Saints that

(00:41):
Serve podcast.
That's the Saints that Servepodcast.
I'm your host, Jairus, and I'myour backup host, Johnny.
Backup host, no co-host.
I am lesser than the main host,even though we're co-hosts.
Johnny, I am the least of these.
You are not least.
You are equal to me, my friend.

Speaker 2 (01:02):
Let me be least.
Why do you want to be least?
Because you know the bible saysfor the first will be last and
the last will be first.

Speaker 1 (01:09):
So oh gosh you want to be first, ultimately, in the
grand scheme.
Why didn't you introduce thepodcast then, bro?
I'll be last now so that I canbe first later is that, like a
christian candy, we can come upwith um, instead of now and
laters, it's first and last thefirst and last.

Speaker 2 (01:28):
Yeah, oh man, all right.
Well, I mean we don't get awhole lot of announcements
besides what we've been rampingup for the past couple of weeks.
We've got a live worship nightonline.

Speaker 1 (01:46):
In four days from the launch of this episode.
That's right, april 4th.
April 4th, baby.
So for that it'll be onFacebook, twitch and YouTube
live stream Yep, the streamitself will start at 630, though
the worship night won't starttill 7.
So if you come at 630, therewill be a countdown timer

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leading up to seven o'clock.
We will be in the chat talkingwith y'all, yep, and then at
seven o'clock we're just goingto have a good old worship night
.
Good old worship night.

Speaker 2 (02:16):
So you know we'll be posting links for that on all
the social media.
So make sure that you arefollowing us on Instagram or
Facebook or threads at theSaints that Serve, pod, or on X
at STS Ministries, and if youhave prayer for anything, you
can reach out to us on any ofthose platforms.

(02:36):
You can also email us at saintsthat serve at gmailcom, or you
can message us.
There's a direct SMS messaginglink at the bottom of the show
notes for this episode.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
Also last week's episode, episode 28,.
The Pokemon episode.
Yep, if you want to, you canhead over to YouTube, and on
YouTube we have visuals for thatepisode.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
Yeah, first time doing something like that.

Speaker 1 (03:04):
And going forward.
If there's any visualsmentioned, they will be on the
YouTube version of the episode.

Speaker 2 (03:11):
Yeah, we're just trying to make things more
entertaining for you guys byincluding you more in the
conversation.

Speaker 1 (03:18):
Right, and we're also trying to head towards a more,
like you said, interactivepodcast, but also, you know,
heading towards eventually beingvideo.
Yep.

Speaker 2 (03:29):
Yeah.
So I just want to shout it outone more time Make sure you're
following us on social, becausewe do post updates when we're
dropping things, and we're goingto be pretty soon I mean the
next couple of months we'regoing to be doing live streaming
video games.
That's right, the Saints thatPlay, yeah.
So make sure that you arefollowing us so you can be up to

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date on what that looks like,what we'll be doing, for that
you can actually go to Instagramand follow the Saints that Play
.

Speaker 1 (03:59):
We're also on Facebook and on Facebook.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
And if you want to head to YouTube, subscribe to
that, and if you're on Twitch,the Saints that Play, so there
you go, do all those thingsbecause we want to know you and
we want you to know us better,and you can do that through
social media.
So yeah, there we go, there wego.
So there was one comment lastweek and it was on threads

(04:24):
actually Really About thepokemon episode, and it was I'm
I'm not gonna get her name verygood, but it was, oh sorry,
pokemon horizons girl 35 wow andso we were posing the question

(04:45):
can Pokemon and Christians, canyou?
do Pokemon as a Christian andshe said there is self-sacrifice
and forgiveness.
So yeah, it has Christianvalues.
So thanks for the comment.
Pokemon Horizons Girl.
Thank you so much we appreciateyou.
Hope you listened to theepisode and you enjoyed it and
hope you came back for thisepisode.

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And then we've got a commentfrom Ashley on YouTube and it
says I laughed a little atJairus's pronunciation of El
Pollo Loco.
My mom used to call it PoloLoco as well.
My most confident word afterthree years in Spanish classes
and high school is undoubtedlypollo.

Speaker 1 (05:29):
It's not polo, it's not polo.
So chicken in Spanish is not ashirt that you wear.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
No, and Ashley even explains it, because I remember
learning that the W-L can bepronounced as a Y in English.
Anyway, fun stuff, thank you,ashley.
Thank you Ashley, bothenjoyable and educational.
On that comment.
That's all I've got forannouncements.

Speaker 1 (05:53):
I want to have a quick little apology, apology,
apologize.
I guess I got an apology, kindof a correction, in last week's
episode.
I said that the man who wasmodeled after Kadabra was a
Japanese man.
He is not a Japanese man.
I don't know what nationalityis, but I know for a fact now he

(06:15):
is not a Japanese man, so Iapologize for that.
Okay, there you go.

Speaker 2 (06:18):
Do you?

Speaker 1 (06:19):
have any other apologies you want to make?

Speaker 2 (06:20):
I apologize for any lulls that I have.
Anytime I say um or yeah, andyou know what I just I apologize
for that one person in yourlife who has not apologized to
you yet.

Speaker 1 (06:37):
I apologize for him or her or her.
Yeah, we apologize for them, soto make it real.
Or her or her?
Yeah, we apologize for them.
So to make it real.
Why don't you give us a quickexample, Like right now, I am
somebody who needs to beapologized to.
Okay, listen.

Speaker 2 (06:52):
I know when we were kids and we were all just
playing around on the playgroundand I was just trying to be
cool for everybody.
But that's neither here northere.
It's just an excuse.
I need to apologize to you.
Stealing your ice cream conethree licks in was unacceptable.

(07:13):
I'm sorry for stealing your icecream cone and I hope you can
find it in your heart 20 yearsremoved to forgive me.
And I just want to let you knowthat, even though I did
thoroughly enjoy that Rocky roadice cream, my life's been a
Rocky road since then.

Speaker 1 (07:32):
I really needed to hear that.
Thank you, what do you got?
What do you got right there,your?

Speaker 2 (07:37):
hand, is that an ice cream cone.
You got right there.

Speaker 1 (07:40):
No, it's a knife.

Speaker 2 (07:49):
Too little, too late, buddy geez, all right.
Well, there you go.
Apology accepted, right is that.

Speaker 1 (07:57):
Oh, that could be a segment.
Just every week we apologizefor something.
Just make up an apology forsomebody who needs to hear it
the apology.
Me and John have been debatinglike new little mini segments to
put in the podcast, so we mightget a little experimental for
you guys.
Yeah, I think apology, whatwould we call it?
Apology accepted or let meapologize, let me apologize.

(08:20):
Okay, there we go.
Actually, what I was actuallytrying to bring up, though,
seriously, was talking aboutyour apology for how you
pronounced that Lord of theRings character in that one Dude
.

Speaker 2 (08:30):
I'm so sorry everybody, I cannot genuinely
say sorry enough, it is notAragorn, it's Aragorn.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
And you said Aragorn many a time in that episode.

Speaker 2 (08:43):
Multiple times and I am so mad that that happened.
I want to delete that episodejust because of that one mistake
.

Speaker 1 (08:49):
It's so funny because we're so removed from it that I
don't even remember whatepisode that was in now.
But Jon is very sorry Because.

Speaker 2 (08:59):
I mean, I've never even done anything.
I've never gotten into theAragorn books like we watched
the movie when it came out whichI understand is is terrible,
right, it's not good at all, andI didn't even read the book, so
I can't even be like oh, thebooks were better that was one
of those franchises I never gotinto watching, reading or

(09:21):
enjoying my, my wife read themand she thoroughly enjoyed them.
And my brother did too.

Speaker 1 (09:27):
He read them and liked them, but uh, yeah, that
is a good possible futurepodcast episode.
The movies that were so badthat it put the books to shame
oh yeah, like it ruined thefranchise a lot of content there
, yeah, but that's neither herenor there, because, tyler, this

(09:48):
is your transition.
Yep, here we go.
Tyler, are you ready?
We are now moving into the maintopic of the episode, which we
are going to be talking aboutAngel Studios.
Angel Studios.
Yeah, oh, angel.

Speaker 2 (10:05):
Studios.
Yeah, so I've got some info onit.
For those who don't know, it isa I guess you could say more
family-slash-religious-orientedstreaming service and production
studio.
They are producing their owncontent.

(10:29):
They originally started out asa streaming service that would
edit releases, so movies and TVshows you could filter out.
I remember that.
Yeah, it was called Angel Vidand they would.
I'm going to correct you it'sVid Angel, vid Angel.
Thank you, sorry, it was VidAngel and you could put filters
on.
You know, if you wanted towatch Game of Thrones but you
didn't want to see any of thenonsense, all the bad stuff.

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All the bad stuff.

Speaker 1 (10:51):
So essentially they would.
Just it's so cool of atechnology when you think about
it because it's like, okay, Idon't want to see this, this,
this or this, and it used to becheck boxes, yep.
And it would just completelytake that nonsense out.
It wouldn't censor it, it wouldjust remove it because, let's
be honest, side tangent, a lotof shows that have that content

(11:11):
in it, the inappropriate content.
It's completely unnecessary andnot important to the plot of
the story at all.

Speaker 2 (11:19):
Sure, yeah, yeah, I agree, so, anyway.
So that's how they got startedand they eventually became their
own studio putting out theirown content, which they started
the studio in 2021.

Speaker 1 (11:35):
But originally, vidangel came out in 2013.
, which is crazy to thinkbecause for only four years of
content, they have somefantastic content.
Oh yeah, and in a short amountof time, for four years,
rivaling major streamingplatforms on content that us, as

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Christians, should be watching.
Yeah, it's really great.
I agree, I have an openingstatement paragraph that I wrote
.
Can I read that?
Yep, okay.
So Angel Studios has made aname for itself as a trailblazer
in faith-based andfamily-friendly media.
Through innovative crowdfundingcampaigns and a passionate

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community, the studio hasbrought forth powerful stories
to life that resonate withviewers around the world.
Has brought forth powerfulstories to life that resonate
with viewers around the world.
From compelling biblical dramasto clean comedy and imaginative
animated series, angel Studiosis dedicated to creating content
that inspires, uplifts andentertains all to the glory of
God.

Speaker 2 (12:40):
Yes.
So just for the controversyside of it, the founders the
Hammond brothers it's Neil,daniel, jeffrey and Jordan they
are all a part of the Latter-daySaints church, the Mormon
church, so they are Mormon, butthey don't.

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They're not like it's a Mormonstreaming service, like they
accept other the Christiancontent that's being released
and it's not necessarily likeyou have to uphold the Mormon
agenda in these things.
They're not making people dothat, but they are a part of the

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.
They are LDSers, but they areLDSers.
So I know people are going toget upset about that or say
something about that.
Make a comment about that.
So, yes, the founders of theactual software streaming
service are Mormon, but not allthe content on the service is
Mormon.
It just holds the line forconservative.

Speaker 1 (13:46):
Christian values.
Okay, so I need to cross out myline for the glory of God here
at the end there?
Well, no, because some of it islike the Chosen show.
It's not produced by Mormons,but it is-.
Really at this point, angelStudios really doesn't
personally make the content.
Yeah, people are making thesecontent.

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They fund it, the same way thatyou have Netflix original shows
.
Yeah, netflix is not personallymaking it, but they are funding
it.

Speaker 2 (14:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (14:15):
And they're all biblical based or biblically
inspired content.

Speaker 2 (14:20):
It's yeah, yeah.
So really all streamingservices for the past couple of
years have leaned so far to themore liberal, secular, sexual
side of content creation that ithas inadvertently opened the

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door for new things to come outthat are making conservative
stuff that ends up doing verywell, because that's what people
want.
They're so tired of only havingthis one thing that Hollywood
dictates you get, and it's pavedthe door for Angel Studios and
even Daily Wire.
They have their own streamingservice too.

Speaker 1 (15:03):
Also, I believe, if I'm not mistaken, a lot of
famous big Hollywood names likeMatthew McConaughey and some
others are also going to attemptto make something similar to
Angel Studios.

Speaker 2 (15:15):
Yeah, oh my gosh, I literally was about to say his
name and I'm blanking on it.

Speaker 1 (15:23):
Is it the guy who made that movie Horizons?
Probably not.

Speaker 2 (15:26):
No Freedom, braveheart guy.

Speaker 1 (15:29):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (15:29):
Mel Gibson.

Speaker 1 (15:30):
Mel Gibson Golly.
So the guy I'm thinking of, hemade Kevin Costner.
Kevin Costner, I believe hemade Horizons, and that's where
I got a mistake.

Speaker 2 (15:39):
Yeah, kevin Costner made Horizons, but no, yeah, mel
Gibson came out and said thatthey're looking to start their
own studio.
Yeah, that's more yeah.

Speaker 1 (15:49):
More than likely Servative.
Here's put me on the books Nowquote me on this.
My guess is that they won't.
They'll make content, yeah, butthey won't make a streaming
service and their content willgo on vid angel, not vid
angelangel.
Angel studios.

Speaker 2 (16:03):
I mean it'll probably go whoever, whoever, but
they'll probably put it outwherever, but it will be.
They won't tow the Hollywoodline.
That's the whole point.

Speaker 1 (16:11):
Yeah, a lot of people need to get away from that
Hollywood line.

Speaker 2 (16:15):
Yeah, it's become pretty ridiculous, anyways.
So there you go.
There's some background for it.
There's our intro for it.
So I'll be honest, I didn't know.
Mormons Didn't know that.
Yeah and it's.
You don't know until you diginto the weeds.
I just I knew that it was goingto be coming up, because I know
some people that are like theyhave to be exactly what I

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believe 100% for it to be thetruth.
If they waver in onetheological point, then it's
from hell.
I know some people like that.
So I do agree that the Mormonchurch is false, is not
Christian and anyone who's beendeceived by the Mormon church.

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I'm praying for you.

Speaker 1 (17:01):
And if you want to know the truth reach out.

Speaker 2 (17:04):
Yeah, if you want to know the truth of the gospel,
then reach out.
But, yeah, this is the Mormons,jehovah's Witnesses, muslims,
christians, jews, all of us.
We share the idea of beingconservative and having morals,
like not being you know, just.
It's just those morals of Ihate to say it, but the morals

(17:28):
of just being a family, havingfamilies and trying to raise
your children in a healthy andrespectful way.
Like there's a lot of people inthat camp and you know we're
Christian and we believe thatthe only way to salvation is
through Jesus Christ.
You know we're Christian and webelieve that the only way to
salvation is through JesusChrist.
But there's a lot of people whohold a lot of similar values

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that we do who would enjoy thecontent.

Speaker 1 (17:50):
Who don't believe the biblical truths.

Speaker 2 (17:54):
Yeah, they don't believe the biblical truths, but
we can agree on some moral,social issues, culture issues,
so yeah, so anyways.
Yeah, that's Angel Studios.
Not everything is Mormon onthere, but it is founded by a
group of Mormons.

Speaker 1 (18:12):
I'll be honest, so transparency here.
I really haven't watched toomuch content made by Angel
Studios.
Yeah, but it's such a struggleto find stuff it's like every
day.
I'm just like I need tosubscribe to just this app.

Speaker 2 (18:27):
Yeah, I will say.
One cool thing that they've gotgoing for them is that you can
donate.
You don't necessarily likesubscribe.

Speaker 1 (18:38):
Right, you pay what you want and you get all their
content, if I'm not mistaken.

Speaker 2 (18:42):
Yeah, it's a donation thing and it's like hey, if you
donate, you're paying towardsother people being able to watch
this content, and that's howthe Chosen does it, because the
Chosen has their own app and sopeople can donate to help.
It's a crowdfunding.
That's what Angel Studios is is.

Speaker 1 (18:56):
It's a crowdfunding group, so I could pay $1, but if
somebody's paying a million,they're still profiting.
Yeah, so that's a bad way.
Large of an example, but youknow what I mean yeah, I mean
it's essentially it's.

Speaker 2 (19:11):
It runs like kickstarter, like it.
Yeah, people pay into it andthey put the content together
with whatever money comes in forit.
If they get enough money, theyproduce it and put it out there.
They don't get enough money, itdoesn't get produced.

Speaker 1 (19:23):
Isn't House of David Angel Studios?
No, it is not.

Speaker 2 (19:28):
Okay, now there's similar creative producers that
were part of the Chosen project,that came over to do the House
of David.

Speaker 1 (19:36):
Okay, because that's where my confusion was, because
House of David is on AmazonPrime, not Angel Studios app,
but I thought maybe it wasproduced by Angel Studios.
Nope, it's a prime originalshow.
Okay, cool.

Speaker 2 (19:46):
Yeah, yeah, all right , sidebar over there we go.

Speaker 1 (19:52):
All right, let's talk about some of the content
that's on Angel Studios.
It sounds good to me.
What do you got?
So do you like a good chuckle,a good laugh?
Yeah, good, because I'm talkingabout dry bar comedy, my guy.
So why did that make me laugh?
It sounded like a smoker'slaugh, anyways.
So we know a local comedian.

(20:14):
Yes, because of her.
It was her and a bunch of othercomedians from the Drybar
comedian comedy scene, if I'mnot mistaken.
So I've seen Drybar comedycomedians in person before.

Speaker 2 (20:32):
Oh yeah, yeah, I was going to say that because, like,
the Drybar is the venue, youknow, kind of like the Laugh
Factory and whatever Joe Rogan'sthing is, and yeah, it's just
like that's the actual anddifferent comedians can go there
, but the dry bar comedy is just, it's that, it's comedians
performing clean comedy.

Speaker 1 (20:55):
It doesn't necessarily mean alcohol, right?
Not necessarily Christian-basedcomedy, but it's just
family-oriented, correct?
You know anybody can watch thiscomedians, correct?
So I have a synopsis here forDry Bar Comedy, which it's
essentially like a series andyou watch every episode of a
different comedian doing theiract, yep.
So Dry Bar Comedy is a stand-upcomedy platform that features

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clean, family-friendlyperformances for comedians
across the country, friendlyperformances for comedians
across the country.
It has gained popularity forits humorous, relatable content,
offering a refreshingalternative to mainstream comedy
.

Speaker 2 (21:31):
Yeah, there's a couple of really funny comedians
that get on there.

Speaker 1 (21:35):
The one I saw live.
When I saw our mutual friendcomedian perform, I could not
stop laughing.
It was funniest to me, yeah, soI like a good comedian.

Speaker 2 (21:47):
He's quite funny.
Yeah, that's cool, that's great.
He's pretty great.
That's pretty neat.
There's a documentary on there.
It's called the Lunatic Farmerthe Lunatic Farmer.
It's about Joel Salatin.
He's like the guy when it comesto the homesteading community,

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so I thought that was prettycool.
I figured I would give that ashout out, since I'm kind of in
the homesteading scene.

Speaker 1 (22:17):
Okay, did they not make Homestead?
Yeah, angel Studios madeHomestead, I think so.

Speaker 2 (22:23):
Yeah, yeah, yes, they did Not.
I think so.
Yeah, yeah, yes, they did.
I'm not not, I think so.
They did make homestead allright.

Speaker 1 (22:28):
They are very much pro and it almost feels
anti-government sometimes, butit's really more pro being able
to take care of yourself withoutintervention yeah, yeah yeah,
without the intermission, innerinvolvement of the government.

Speaker 2 (22:43):
Yeah yeah, but I I figure I'd give that one a shout
out.
People can go and and watchthat one if you want some
exposure to homesteading and ifyou want a movie about
homesteading, go watch homesteadyeah, I I can't refer that
because I haven't watched it yet, but maybe it's great.

Speaker 1 (23:01):
So here's the the deal.
Okay, I have scores with my allthe shows I talk about.
Yeah, none of them drop below a7.5.
That have scores and that's.
I have 10 here on my list, yeah, yeah, and it's like you go on
Netflix how many of those shows,if you just go in order, have a

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you know anything really abovea 70.

Speaker 2 (23:25):
I don't know, just for kicks and giggles.

Speaker 1 (23:27):
Let's just see what happens.
Unfortunately, you can't go toNetflix and they give scores.
Oh really, I'm just like makingan observation statement.
What happens if I go to Prime?
Does Prime have scores?
I don't think Prime does havescores.
You know what?
Let's not get distracted by allthis.

Speaker 2 (23:43):
Alright.

Speaker 1 (23:45):
Let's go into our show.
Let's keep going with our shows.
It's real quick speaking.
Uh, you know scores for dry barcomedy.
The scores vary on there basedon the comedian, so that doesn't
really have a score.
Okay, because it might be goodon one, or versus the other,
because it's kind of a justhodgepodge, crock pot of comedy,
crock pot, so what's?

Speaker 2 (24:07):
your next show I have on here, so I didn't write the
titles, but this is a name thatI know.
People know Mike Rowe.
He has two different titles onthe Angel Studios streaming
service, so if you like, mikeRowe- If you don't know who Mike
Rowe is, he made Dirty Jobs.

Speaker 1 (24:30):
Oh my gosh, I got on a big like maybe a year ago, big
Dirty Jobs kick and waswatching a lot of Dirty Jobs you
don't need to go to college.

Speaker 2 (24:38):
You just need to go to a trade school and make more
money than a lawyer.

Speaker 1 (24:42):
I mean, that's pretty much what like?
Okay, not everybody has to goto college to survive.
There are hardworking workerswho make way more money than
people who come out of college.

Speaker 2 (24:53):
Well, I mean, you and I are a testament to it.
We're making a living wage andneither of us have a college
degree, correct?
So there you go.
Not that I don't know if thatousted you or not, but I'm going
to get in big trouble.

Speaker 1 (25:05):
now You're fired.

Speaker 2 (25:07):
You said you had a doctorate.
I lied, Steven.
It was a lie.
Steven.
Those asses had no ego powersand fair, no nutrients.

Speaker 1 (25:20):
Oh, my gosh, that's coming up, that we got to watch
that movie.
Yeah, nacho Libo libre.
You guys, every, every cinco demayo, every cinco de mayo make
sure you watch it.
And yes, guys, I know it's mayo.
Yes, don't come at me in thecomments, don't come at me.
All right, what you got I have.
So I'm going in order ofrelease order, so tell me if I'm

(25:42):
stepping on toes.
No, but I feel like this isprobably currently their biggest
show.
Okay, and that is the Chosenthe.

Speaker 2 (25:49):
Chosen, which is an independent show that just airs
on here.

Speaker 1 (25:56):
Yeah, it's hosted on there.
They didn't make it.

Speaker 2 (25:58):
Well, it's not even hosted on there anymore.
Oh, they took it off.
It's on multiple platforms.

Speaker 1 (26:02):
Oh, okay, is it still on there and it's just ever
elsewhere, or is it completelygone?

Speaker 2 (26:05):
I think season one is on Angel Studios.
I don't know if the otherseasons are Okay.

Speaker 1 (26:11):
Maybe, and this particular show, I feel like, is
about to end.

Speaker 2 (26:16):
They're releasing a movie, the Last Supper.

Speaker 1 (26:19):
Yeah.
So if you know anything aboutthat story, we're getting kind
of close to Jesus' end of hisstory.

Speaker 2 (26:26):
The big deal, the big deal.

Speaker 1 (26:28):
Don't want to spoil it for you or anything if you're
watching the Chosen, butsomething big's about to happen.

Speaker 2 (26:33):
Let's just say something big's about to go down
, yeah, so yeah, that's prettycool.
I think that the Chosen show iswhat has opened the door For a
lot of people, for a lot ofdifferent good Bible shows and
movies.
Yeah, like the House of David.
Yeah, like the House of David,and King of Kings is a cartoon

(26:56):
that's about to come out.
There was one that was aboutthe birth of Christ.
It was like Joseph andsomething.

Speaker 1 (27:02):
I think I had it on my list and I removed it.
I believe there's a Christmasspecial for the Chosen.
Okay, is that?

Speaker 2 (27:09):
what it was.
I believe so and so yeah, butit's just because, dude, like a
lot of the Bible andhyper-Christian content before,
all this more recent stuff, itwas all very, it just wasn't
good.

Speaker 1 (27:24):
Like it just wasn't produced well.
And we talked about that in ourmovie episode of when we were
talking about biblical, somebiblical movies, yeah, noah,
yeah, with Emma Watson in it.
What was the other one?
Exodus, gods and Kings Yep, itwas all taking stories of the
Bible and loosely basing it onsome fantasy movie.

Speaker 2 (27:47):
Yeah, like really dipping hard into something
that's not accurate to the Bible.
But there's been more recentshows that are trying to lean
more into the original story andtry to stay true to the essence
of the story.
There is creative liberties init but you know, it's like, hey,

(28:08):
this stuff happens Like it'sgraphic and it's hard and
there's drama and intrigue andstuff, but it did happen.

Speaker 1 (28:17):
But it did happen, yeah, and I think that's a huge
difference.
It's like you're making upsomething.
Yeah, that's a huge difference.
It's like you're making upsomething and you're making it
gory or violent or hard to talkabout on purpose, where these
are real events and we need todiscuss them.

Speaker 2 (28:34):
Yeah, and I will say because I've watched a couple of
seasons of Chosen I haven'twatched all of it, but what I
have watched I know what is inthe Bible that they put in the
show, and then what is creativeliberties that they add to the
show, because there's somethings that the Bible doesn't

(28:55):
address and so they use creativeliberties to kind of make the
connection, saying, well, itcould have gone this way, right,
but I will like.
The double side to that is thatthere are some people that they
relay the truth of God's wordsolely by what they've watched
Right In Chosen and they haven'tactually read it for themselves

(29:15):
.

Speaker 1 (29:16):
And that's a big point I think we should make
right now is that you can watchthis.
It's fine to watch these shows.
Yes, we talked about it on ourPrince of Egypt episode, but you
need to go in and make thatcomparison.
You need to study on it and notbase your religion on a piece

(29:36):
of media.
That's not the Bible.

Speaker 2 (29:38):
Yeah, your doctrine in your theology shouldn't be
coming from a TV series.

Speaker 1 (29:45):
Does it make it wrong that it's wrong in the show?

Speaker 2 (29:48):
No, we have God's Word.
That's what I'm saying.
I think that the chosen, Ithink that where they put stuff
out that's not in the Bible,it's because the Bible doesn't
address it.
It's extra stuff.
It's not like they've taken itand contorted it like the Noah
movie, like the Exodus, gods andkings movie.

(30:08):
They've taken that story andchanged it, whereas Chosen they
just add things in that theBible just doesn't address.
You know, correct?
So this is my take on it.
I think it's a pretty good show, I think it can be encouraging
as a christian, but uh, yeah,definitely, definitely get your

(30:28):
truth of who god is through hisword and what he says about
himself.

Speaker 1 (30:34):
So what do you think the most accurate biblical movie
is?
I don't know, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (30:44):
My guess, Lord of the Rings.
The Fellowship of the no.

Speaker 1 (30:48):
Whoa.
Talk about basing your religionoff of something Geez, no, I
think, probably Passion of theChrist.
If I had to guess yeah, oh,geez, no, I think probably
Passion of the Christ, if I hadto guess.

Speaker 2 (30:59):
Yeah, they did go to great lengths to try and stay
true to what it would look like.
There is some creativeliberties, like Satan being a
woman.

Speaker 1 (31:08):
Oh yeah, I don't think they ever necessarily
specifically say that Satan is awoman in that movie, but they
cast a woman to play Satan.
Yeah, yeah, Sorry.

Speaker 2 (31:17):
Yes, a real ugly woman, but a pretty good looking
manatee.

Speaker 1 (31:25):
Great callback, thank you.
So what do you think theaverage review score is for the
Chosen?

Speaker 2 (31:32):
It's got to be high.
It's got to be like an 8 pointsomething, 9.3.
Wow, that's really good.
Yeah, yeah, and that's thething like that show is good and
people really like it.
Like people, they keep up withit now, did they?

Speaker 1 (31:49):
is it all in english or did they do like what the
passion of christ did?
It is, or like hebrew hebrew?
It's in English, hebrew, hebrew.

Speaker 2 (31:58):
Aramaic Aramaic Thank you.

Speaker 1 (31:59):
Yes, I mixed too many things together there, yeah.

Speaker 2 (32:02):
So, uh, yeah, they, it's in English.
So what?
Uh, what's your next show?
So, you, you, I think you dohave it on your list, but go
ahead.
I have not watched it.
However, I really like thestory that they used.

(32:22):
I do want to watch it.
So it's just a matter offinding time.
I have three small children soI can't just turn the TV on and
just watch something whenever,yeah, I have to, and, as a day
laborer, I normally fall asleepwhen my boys fall asleep, so I'm
not staying up and watchingshows all that much.
So, yeah, it's finding time toactually watch.

(32:45):
It is the hard part.
My wife can't be around becauseshe doesn't want, she does not
like the human trafficking stuffthat's going on, so watching a
movie about it is not enjoyable.

Speaker 1 (32:58):
So real quick, fair warning, and I'll read the
synopsis of it.
The Sound of Freedom is apowerful drama based on the true
story of Tim Ballard, a formerHomeland Security agent, who
embarks on a mission to rescuechildren from human trafficking.
The film sheds light on thehorrors of modern day slavery.

Speaker 2 (33:15):
Yeah, so that I mean that's the story, and I'm
pro-liberating people fromslavery, Of course.
And for some reason, when themovie came out in theaters, like
Hollywood was trying to silenceit, right, and make it like it
was a bad, like you shouldn't gosee this movie, and it was like
why wouldn't you want to go seea movie that shines light into

(33:37):
you, against something, againstslavery movie, and was like why
wouldn't you want to go see amovie that shines light into
against, against slavery?
And unless you're pro-slavery,so hot, take right there.
Sorry if that offends anybody,but I'm gonna go ahead and say
it.
You know what hollywood?

Speaker 1 (33:48):
they're pro-slavery allegedly, allegedly no, but did
you hear about, like, when themovie was coming out, like
magically, a lot of times peoplewould try to see it and the oh,
the projector broke or yeah,the power's going out in this,
this particular studio, uh, inthis particular uh auditorium

(34:10):
for the movie, yeah, and we weregetting lots of reports of
weird things trying to keeppeople from seeing this film
yeah, which is weird, right, youknow, and and it kind of plays
into that whole idea of thedemonic forces that are present
in this world like they willoperate and their goal is to
remain in the shadows.

Speaker 2 (34:31):
They don't want what they're doing being brought into
the light, and so even as muchas like a movie coming out that
shines light into a dark,demonic reality, you know things
will happen that will be likewhat the heck?

Speaker 1 (34:47):
what's going?

Speaker 2 (34:48):
on here, so, and that's a mini cryptid corner for
you, yeah you got a minicryptic corner.
The, the auditorium demonauditorium demon, the demon in
the projector so I'm gonna talkabout are you done with yours go
?
Ahead and talk.
I've got one more, but go aheadand bring up one uh, I have.

Speaker 1 (35:09):
Oh, I was gonna say um, with the sound of freedom,
um, what do you think the scoreis?

Speaker 2 (35:15):
um seven point something.

Speaker 1 (35:17):
Eight point one, eight point one man, that's
right, I'm going low.
So yeah, um, everybody go see,go see.

Speaker 2 (35:25):
Sound of freedom sound of freedom and tell me
what you think, and eventually,one day, I'll be able to tell
you what I think why don't youcome over and we'll we'll watch
it.

Speaker 1 (35:35):
Okay, there you go.

Speaker 2 (35:36):
There you go, people That'll solve that problem.
Jairus just officially invitedme over to his house for the
first time.

Speaker 1 (35:42):
No, I'm just kidding.
No, for the first time.
Not to do any work.
Not to do any work.

Speaker 2 (35:48):
Anyways, I've got.
I've got one more if you wantme to, just because it's on your
list, if you want to talk aboutit.

Speaker 1 (35:55):
I don't want to take it.
Is it the Wing Feather?

Speaker 2 (35:59):
No, you can go ahead and talk about that one.

Speaker 1 (36:02):
Is that not your last one?
No, okay, perfect.
The Wing Feather Saga.

Speaker 2 (36:06):
Which I know nothing about, but I hear it's like the
go-to kid show.

Speaker 1 (36:11):
Yeah, so the Wing Feather Saga is a 3D animated
cartoon made strictly for kids,but they made it on the scale.

Speaker 2 (36:19):
So adults don't, watch it.

Speaker 1 (36:20):
No, but they made it apparently on the scale of like
telling storytelling of Lord ofthe Rings in the sense of like
it's telling this epic tale.
Yeah, and it's not really like.
One plus one equals two.
Well it, where's the map?
It's nothing like that.
One plus one equals two.
Where's the map?
It's nothing like that.
I'm pretty sure it's a bookseries.

(36:41):
Yeah, it's a children's epicbook series telling this epic
story and I think probablypretty fairly close to the in
the vein of like Redwall andstuff like that.
If you don't know what Redwallis, it's a story about go.

Speaker 2 (36:54):
Of Redwall Abbey.
No, it's a.
I mean Red abbey what?
No, it's a.
I mean red wall is a.
It's a children's fantasy epicabout, it's like mice animals.
Yeah, and the creature and thecharacters are woodland
creatures.

Speaker 1 (37:07):
So small, small creatures like mice and rats and
moles and otters and bunniesand badgers and gotcha trues
it's probably to that sparrowsbut no, this is probably in that
vein rose storytelling of it'staking a child-friendly story

(37:28):
but not trying to be like dorathe explorer either.
Yeah, yeah, so it's achildren's show that anybody can
enjoy.
Yeah, based off the animationand how the story and the epic
of it is being told reminds meof the Dragon Prince.
If you've seen that on Netflix.
If you are watching that, don'tanymore, stop what you're doing

(37:49):
.
But what they were planning andhow they were doing and showing
that story on Netflix.
The Dragon Prince kind ofreminds me of what they're
trying to do with the WingedFeather Saga, of doing this epic
tale but actually friendly forchildren.
Yeah, yeah, dragon Prince is,but it gets into the alphabet
community and all that nonsense,which is crazy but everyone

(38:12):
knows how we feel about that.

Speaker 2 (38:14):
We want the light of Christ to shine in that area
knows how we feel about that.

Speaker 1 (38:19):
We we want the light of christ to shine in that area.
The wing feather saga is ananimated fantasy series based on
andrew peterson's best-sellingbook series.
It follows the adventures ofthe igby fam, of the igby family
, in the fantastical world ofairwear, as they battle against
the evil Fangs of Dang.
Fangs of Dang.

(38:39):
Fangs of Dang.

Speaker 2 (38:41):
Wow, what a name.

Speaker 1 (38:42):
Mm-hmm, and already I feel the inspirations of Lord
of the Rings, because I can'tsay words when it's names.
There you go, guys.
What do you think the WingFeather Saga has for a review
score?
8.5.
You were very close 8.7.
Wow, I'm getting closer.

(39:03):
There you go.
So yeah, it's just, it's one ofthose good, I feel like
probably the majority of stuffon Angel Studios probably the
most children could probablywatch and it'd be okay to watch.
But this is strictly made forchildren.
So if you have kids For thekids, put them on that wing
feather saga guys.

Speaker 2 (39:21):
Yeah, because there's another big kid thing on there.
I don't know if you want to go,let's go ahead and talk about
that one, the Tuttle Twins.
Tuttle Twins, yeah.

Speaker 1 (39:31):
Is that yours?
No, I'm saying let's go aheadand talk here.
You go then bottom of the page.
Oh, you want me to?

Speaker 2 (39:36):
yeah I'll let you have that one, okay.
The tunnel twins is an animatedchildren's series teaching kids
about economics, government andindividual rights through the
adventures of the tunnel twins.
The show offers educationalcontent in a fun and engaging
manner.

Speaker 1 (39:57):
So where Winged Feather Saga is meant to just be
telling a fantasy story, I feellike the Total Twins is meant
to be a little more educational.

Speaker 2 (40:06):
Yeah, because once again, I think that the Total
Twins is a.
It's either a book or it is abook series.
Book series Okay, I couldn'tremember if it was a book series
or if it was a comic, which waswritten by the twins.

Speaker 1 (40:20):
no, just so y'all know, at home it was the book
series written by connor boyackboyack so yeah, what do you
think?
The review score for the totaltwins is 83.
You're off by two again.
Really yes.

Speaker 2 (40:39):
What is it 8.5?

Speaker 1 (40:40):
8.5.
Wow.

Speaker 2 (40:43):
Unreal.

Speaker 1 (40:45):
So I've seen trailers for it.
Even as an adult, it looksentertaining.
Yeah.
Or a children's cartoon, whichis, I think, kind of the
necessity, yeah, especially whena lot of times shows that are
being played in your household.
You're going to be around to bewatching it as an adult if
you're replaying or playingshows for your kids, so it needs

(41:06):
to be entertaining even foradults.
Yeah, enough that they're notgoing to drive themselves insane
hearing Dora the Explorer 37times.
That's like my go-to children'sshow.
In this example, dora theExplorer, a good example of a
good children's cartoon thatadults also enjoy.

(41:26):
I feel like the craze has kindof died down now, but Bluey.

Speaker 2 (41:28):
Bluey yeah, I hear about that all the time.
Everyone's like Bluey's, sogreat.
I never jumped on the bandwagon.

Speaker 1 (41:35):
Here's the thing, though it's great because they
made it with kids in mind, nottrying to make money, yeah, and
also making it for things thatadults can relate to as well
while watching it.
Sure, yeah, so.

Speaker 2 (41:48):
I got you.

Speaker 1 (41:49):
I've seen a few episodes of Bluey.
It actually is a well-made show.

Speaker 2 (41:53):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (41:54):
But I don't really need to convince anybody.
It's show, yeah, yeah, but Idon't really need to convince
anybody.
It's like one of the biggestchildren's cartoons ever so.

Speaker 2 (41:59):
Yeah, everyone knows about bluey.
That's what's crazy, okay whatelse you got?

Speaker 1 (42:05):
are we, are we stalling because you only have
one more left?
I mean, we can talk about mine.
No, I want to talk about theking of kings okay, let's talk
about the King of Kings.

Speaker 2 (42:15):
So All I know about it is what little bit I've
watched of the trailer.

Speaker 1 (42:20):
So that's all I know.
Funny enough, that's whateverybody knows about it,
because it hasn't come out yet,but I haven't watched the full
trailer.
Oh, I see, I should say so.
We went and saw me and Ashleywent and saw the Looney Tunes
the new Looney Tunes movie.
Mm-hmm toons, the new looneytunes movie.

(42:41):
Uh, the world the day the worldblew up.
Okay, which side tangent?
Probably one of my favoritemovies of this year so far is a
looney tunes kids cartoon.
I really I laughed so hard thewhole time.
But again, a warner brotherslooney tunes cartoon.
Yeah, had this trailer for thismovie in front of it.
Okay, I was really happy to seethat they were playing a
trailer for this movie in frontof it.
Okay, I was really happy to seethat they were playing a
trailer for an Angel Studiosmovie on a major release.
Yeah, and I didn't realize,because I think I saw it before,

(43:05):
like starting to play and Ikind of just scrolled past it on
TikTok or something like that.
Yeah, I didn't realize what thestory was actually about.
Yeah, which is it's like a kidwhose father is sitting him down
telling him the story of JesusChrist.
Yes, okay, yeah, yeah yeah, andwithin it it's animated in a way
that while the father's tellingthe story, the kid is injecting

(43:26):
himself, being there seeing thelife of Jesus.
Yeah, so I was like I leanedover to Asha.
I'm like I really want to seethis movie.
Yeah, even though it's a kid'scartoon, it's 3D animated.

Speaker 2 (43:42):
I just want to go back to for anyone listening.
If you remembered what Jairus'favorite cartoon was growing up
as a child, if you remember,plus one to your Jairus lore,
there you go, there you go.
If you're keeping track, youjust got a plus one to Jairus
lore.
There you go.

Speaker 1 (43:57):
There you go.

Speaker 2 (43:57):
If you're keeping track, you just got a plus one
to Jairus lore.

Speaker 1 (44:00):
Oh, I know the answer to that one.

Speaker 2 (44:02):
Me too.
Yeah, but don't say it rightnow, okay, because then it won't
count, because everyone willjust write it down then.

Speaker 1 (44:07):
It's funny because I said the answer already, but
moving on, moving on.
King of Kings is a forthcomingbiblical epic from angel studios
.
We're talking about them, hey,hey, presenting the life of
jesus christ with a freshnarrative perspective in a good
way, everybody, yeah, in a goodway.

Speaker 2 (44:25):
Anytime you hear a fresh perspective on a story,
it's usually like, oh no yeah,but yeah, like we're not like
talking, not making a differentjesus story actually.
Just the way it's being told,like the environment around, the
way it's being told isdifferent.

Speaker 1 (44:41):
It's not the it's the way it is.
It's somebody telling the storyof Jesus to their child who is
picturing themselves being therewatching it in person.
You know what I just realized?

Speaker 2 (44:51):
What's that?
Because I said VeggieTales asecond ago, VeggieTales a second
ago.
There's not a singleVeggieTales movie that I know of
that does a show about Jesuslike any portion of Jesus' life.
I think that there's a moviewhere they try to tell the

(45:16):
nativity story inside the movie,but yeah, there's nothing,
Because you know they dodifferent things, like Joshua
and the Wall and the Grapes ofWrath and Didn't.

Speaker 1 (45:26):
VeggieTales, david and Goliath.
Didn't VeggieTales get awayfrom telling biblical stories
and they told more like moralstories?
Yeah, they got bought out.

Speaker 2 (45:35):
They got bought out, or I guess the guy who created
it sold it.

Speaker 1 (45:39):
And yeah they kept that framework of the show but
got away from Bible stories.
Yeah, they also startedanimating them in a weird way.
They look weird now.

Speaker 2 (45:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (45:50):
Yeah, have you seen new Barney?

Speaker 2 (45:52):
Yeah, we've talked about this.

Speaker 1 (45:53):
Not on the podcast.
That's true, no, I haven't.
Wow, new Barney looks awful,yeah, and he sounds like they
really like.
Whoever they chose to voicethis guy yeah, it's bad.

Speaker 2 (46:09):
That's the thing, dude.
Whenever they recreatesomething or try to do a
continuation of something fromback in the day, it either hits
or it's awful, it's never in themiddle of the road.
It's never in the middle of theroad when we got that final
season for Samurai Jack.
Although I hate the ending,it's good.

(46:30):
Yeah, new Barney, not good.

Speaker 1 (46:36):
Some would argue, old Barney's not good.
Well, yeah, that's true, Iguess.
So, so to continue off of that,the film the King of Kings.
The film aims to capture theessence of Jesus' ministry,
crucifixion and resurrection ina powerful and emotionally
resonant manner.
Nice, so yeah, I'm actually.
I think we'll go see this film.

Speaker 2 (46:57):
Yeah, and it sounds like it'll be an altogether good
kids film that pushes thegospel narrative.

Speaker 1 (47:07):
So that'll be good and we need more of that.

Speaker 2 (47:09):
We definitely need more of that.
We need less of Cocomelon andmore of King of Kings.

Speaker 1 (47:14):
Less of a bald baby and more of our Lord and Savior.

Speaker 2 (47:18):
Well, you know that they designed Cocomelon to be
Addictive, addictive.

Speaker 1 (47:22):
Yeah, people have done research on Cocomelon and
found that it implements tacticsthat casinos use to trigger
addictive gambling traits inhuman beings.

Speaker 2 (47:34):
Yeah, they studied kids and they would watch and
see like whenever they wouldlose the kids attention and they
would time it like theintervals of how long they held
the kids attention.
And so whenever they would losethe kids attention they would
do something like a flash withthe screen or a big change, a
sudden change or a light mixturethat like draws them back in.

(47:56):
So it's like every sevenseconds, I think, is the timing.

Speaker 1 (47:59):
It is, it's under.
There is no shot in cocomelonthat holds for more than seven
seconds.
Yeah, you are constantly being,your brain is constantly being
blasted with a brand new, boomnew thing, boom new thing.
And it's triggering thatdopamine in children's minds.

(48:19):
That is to the equivalent of adopamine hit when a gambler is
getting that gambling hit.

Speaker 2 (48:27):
Yeah, so there you go .
Cocomelon promotes gambling.

Speaker 1 (48:33):
I don't know, I don't know, and I think research
within that research that you'retalking about too, it doesn't
allow for the brain of a childto correctly develop and it's
creating essentially zombiebrain children.

Speaker 2 (48:46):
Well, yeah, because the idea is it's like, if you do
, because you know a dopaminerelease, it's natural, it's a
part of our body, right, butwhen you manipulate that and
make it something that'striggered constantly, then, yeah
, it wears your body down to thepoint where you're not even

(49:07):
really getting a real dopaminehit Right, it's a manufactured
fake dopamine hit.
It's just so worn down, you'reso numb to it, that your body
doesn't really experience it theway it's supposed to.
So and that's how addiction isLike right, like the first
couple of times it's great.
But when you do it so much overtime it wears you down to where

(49:30):
you're not even really gettingit anymore.
But your body's conditionedyourself to say, hey, to get
this, I've got to do thatanymore.

Speaker 1 (49:37):
But your body's conditioned yourself to say, hey
, to get this, I've got to dothat.
So what do you think theaverage review score of King of
Kings is?
It's not out yet.
How do we know that?
Correct, there isn't one Movingon.

Speaker 2 (49:49):
All right, we got to talk about this one.
Gabriel and the Guardians.
I knew that was your one.
Yeah, I knew it, becausenothing else on here would be
Well, and I told you before westarted recording.

Speaker 1 (50:02):
Yeah, true, but I don't have anything else, so
we'll end on Gabriel and theGuardians.
Okay, do you know anythingabout it Besides what I have on
my piece of paper?
Go ahead and read what's onyour piece of paper.
So Gabriel and the Guardians isan upcoming animated fantasy
series that explores spiritualbattles through the lens of
angelic guardians, offering ablend of action and faith-based

(50:25):
storytelling.

Speaker 2 (50:27):
So the creators for this story?
They were their big anime fans,they love anime.
They were just tired of how Iwould worldly anime is, because,
I mean, it can't.
Some animes can get really lewd, yeah, and have some really
dark stuff as well, and sothey're like, let's make an

(50:50):
anime that, like, holds true tothe epics that we find in the
Bible but holds firm to theChristian morality Right A lot
of stuff.
So yeah, so that was their goal.
I actually contributed to theKickstarter for that Mm-hmm.
So there you go.

Speaker 1 (51:08):
I helped produce the first episode John podcast host
handyman producer.

Speaker 2 (51:15):
Yeah, anyways, no, but I did watch the first
episode.
You can go and watch it onAngel Studios.
It's pretty good.
I'm not going to lie, I like it.
I think that there needs to bemore episodes to be able to
really get a feel for the story.
But for what they did at theopener, it's good.
I like it as far as animes goand know I'm not so.

Speaker 1 (51:37):
It's very much an anime.

Speaker 2 (51:40):
Right, it is very much an anime.
There is a lot of link soundsin there and, uh, yeah, like the
, the fighting movements andkind of the lore that they're
building up and the way thatcharacters are designed, like it
.
It is anime.
Mm-hmm, just American-madeanime.
Yeah, american-made anime.

(52:01):
I don't know why it stood outto me so much, but it was funny
that all the different in theshow, mm-hmm, those are the
sounds that Link makes fromLegend of Zelda.
You guys, just so you know.

Speaker 1 (52:27):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah so, um yeah, I told jersey
he needs to go watch it.
I want to get his his opinionon it.
I'm legitimately, after we stoprecording, I'm going to
subscribe to angel studio so Ican start watching these things.
I've always meant to.
I'm using this as an excuse.
There we go, especially findingout that all I got to pay is
one penny to get into it.
There you go.
It's probably like a minimallimit, though.

(52:47):
Oh yeah, I don't know For the Iwill, guys, calm down, I will
pay more than one penny.

Speaker 2 (52:51):
Well, when I got it I think because I donated to the
starter of it, I guess is thereason that I didn't I didn't
put any money down.
I'll have to go back and lookat it, but yeah it, like I said,
I think it's pretty good.
I think my money was well spent.
I recommend everybody going andwatching it.
If you like anime, go give it a.

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Go give it a watch and thencome back and let me know what
you thought, because we needmore people to watch it to get
more episodes all right,everybody ready for this?

Speaker 1 (53:23):
this is the sound.
Hold on.
Why is it doing that?
The sound of donation this isthe sound of me downloading the
angel studios application.
Hey, that is me airing outbecause it didn't scan my face.

Speaker 2 (53:44):
Oh, that sound sound is from, uh, it's.
It's the apple sound, I know,but you know what it sounds a
lot like what's that?
One of the openers or the menusound for Pal World.

Speaker 1 (54:00):
There it is.
That's me getting the AngelStudios app.
Yay, you remember Pal World.
Yeah, I remember Pal World.

Speaker 2 (54:09):
Remember last week, when we talked about Pokemon.

Speaker 1 (54:11):
Yeah Pal, world's a lot like Pokemon.

Speaker 2 (54:13):
I'm surprised we didn't talk more about Pal World
last week.

Speaker 1 (54:16):
Honestly going back and editing the podcast in that
episode.
Yeah, I'm surprised there's alot of things we didn't cover in
that.
Yeah, that's true so maybewe'll get a episode two of
pokemon eventually episodenumber two, pokemon.

Speaker 2 (54:30):
Are we still doing it ?

Speaker 1 (54:31):
no, I remember in the story of noah we sent a bird.

Speaker 2 (54:37):
Yeah, all right.
Do you have any other shows youwant to talk about for Angel
Studios?

Speaker 1 (54:42):
No, just to close out on this, go get Angel Studios,
like I just did.

Speaker 2 (54:47):
Yeah, it's not hard.
Get it and look at theirlibrary and, once again, it's
one of those things where it'sall voluntary you pay to
contribute to.
It's a crowd sharing group, socrowd share.

Speaker 1 (55:02):
Crowd fund, sorry, crowd fund, share fund, enjoy,
yeah, all of that.

Speaker 2 (55:10):
Because there is some good stuff on there For sure.
All right, well, you ready torock into the next thing?

Speaker 1 (55:16):
I am very much ready to rock into the next thing.
I am very much ready to rockinto the next thing.
So, Tyler, this is us nowrocking into the next segment.

Speaker 2 (55:25):
Okay, I have a Bible verse for you.
This is a game, a game, andit's called Witch Translation.

Speaker 1 (55:33):
Okay, give us a quick theme song for Witch
Translation.

Speaker 2 (55:37):
Witch Translation.
So how do we play WitchTranslation?
Okay, Give us a quick themesong.
For which translation?
Which translation?

Speaker 1 (55:40):
So how do we play which translation?

Speaker 2 (55:42):
So I'm going to read a Bible verse for you and you're
going to guess, based on theway that it's worded, what Bible
translation it is.
Okay Into the English.
So this is Malachi, chapter 3,verse 1.
Okay Into the English.
So this is Malachi, chapterthree, verse one.
Okay, see, I am going to sendmy messenger and he will clear

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the way before me.
Then the Lord, you see, willsuddenly come to his temple, the
messenger of the covenant youdelight in.
See, he is coming, says theLord of armies.
All right, what translation doyou think that?

Speaker 1 (56:25):
is how many guesses do I get Three NIV Nope, esv
Nope New King.

Speaker 2 (56:34):
James Version Dang it .
Okay, that was the CSB.
Oh, the CSV Christian StandardBible.
Okay, that was the CSB.
Oh the CSV Christian StandardBible.
Oh B.

Speaker 1 (56:41):
CSB CSB Christian Standard.
What am I thinking?
Isn't there like a CSV?
There might be, I don't knowwhich one's the one that has a V
at the end.

Speaker 2 (56:50):
ESV ESV English Standard Version.
Gotcha, that's the one that wego to on sundays.
Yeah, this church is like hey,you know you can.
You can read from otherversions, but on sunday morning
we're gonna read from esv.

Speaker 1 (57:04):
that's how all our pastors I was so confident, I
was like.
I was so like, okay, here we go, I'm gonna get it right.
I was like niv and I was gonna.
I was just like banking you gotit right.

Speaker 2 (57:14):
Yeah, oh, hands down the CNIV.
This has been.

Speaker 1 (57:25):
Which Bible Translation, and what's that
next week for and what's theoutro for?

Speaker 2 (57:29):
that I don't know.
We're going to have to workshopthat one.
We need to workshop our introsand outros.

Speaker 1 (57:35):
We do have a outro for the corner and an intro for
the corner.
I mean sorry, we do have aoutro for the corner and an
intro for the corner.
I meant sorry we do have anintro for the corner now.
Okay.
So, tyler, this is yourtransition into the corner.
Step inside if you dare.
Shadows move, mysteries whisperand the unknown awaits.

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Welcome to the Corner.
So how about that new cornerintro?

(58:23):
I love it.
I worked so hard on that andyou know what you did.
Good, thank you it's great.

Speaker 2 (58:25):
Thank you, boss.
You're gonna see it in yourbonus this christmas.
Does your wife like ham son?

Speaker 1 (58:35):
I got you a subscription of cheese of the
week cheese, the pizza partywe're gonna honor you.

Speaker 2 (58:44):
Uh, no, what do you know about the nephilim?

Speaker 1 (58:48):
the nephilim.
The Nephilim, that would be theoffspring of angels cast out of
heaven, correct, there isdebate.

Speaker 2 (58:58):
So everyone in the cryptid world would say that yes
, I think the more traditionalBible scholarly corner of people
would say that it is, they'rejust giants of people would say

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that it is, they're just giants.
There's no supernatural aspectto it, it's just.
That's the term for giant.
In the bible, so yeah, buteither side, yeah, the more.
The more cryptid side says thatangels and humans had babies,
and these babies were called theNephilim, as you do.

Speaker 1 (59:34):
As you do Not the Nephilim part, have babies part.

Speaker 2 (59:38):
Yes, but anyways, they were considered to be
heroes and mighty men of theancient times.

Speaker 1 (59:46):
So kind of like realistic superheroes almost.

Speaker 2 (59:50):
Yeah, you could say that, but you know, the Bible is
riddled with giants, it'sthroughout.
I mean, I've got a couple ofverses here but there's
different names, there'sdifferent term, all terms.
There's different names forthese giant clans or these clans
of giants, these people, groupsof giants, right?

(01:00:11):
So Nephilim is one of the firstones used.
Another term is Rephaim.
Another term is the.

Speaker 1 (01:00:19):
Emim or Not, a meme.

Speaker 2 (01:00:23):
Emim, emim, the Zuzim , the Anakim.
And then there's some evidenceto speculate that the Amorites
were giants as well, or hadgiants in their people groups.

Speaker 1 (01:00:37):
I know that one.

Speaker 2 (01:00:39):
But there is a, so we keep on referring to the house
of David that people you know.
Maybe go check it out.
It's on Amazon Prime, but it'sfollowing the story of David
who's in the Bible.

Speaker 1 (01:00:51):
And if you know anything about that, who does he
go up against?

Speaker 2 (01:00:56):
Funny, you should ask .
He goes up against a giantcalled Goliath.
Goliath, which in the Bible itkind of makes it out like the
Philistines are giants, butthey're not.
Goliath is a giant who livesamong the Philistines.
So there's there is speculationthat Goliath, the famous giant

(01:01:21):
in the Bible, actually had fourbrothers.
Four brothers.
Goliath had four brothers.
What are their names?
Names?

Speaker 1 (01:01:30):
so their names are carl, steve and jack ironically
goliath.

Speaker 2 (01:01:38):
Now there's goliath one goliath two.
Yeah, now in second samuel, 21,15 through 22, it is talking
about david's battles and davDavid's mighty men and the
different accomplishments Iguess you could say the
different militaryaccomplishments that they had.
But there's a giant who'scalled Goliath of the Gittites,

(01:02:03):
there's Ishbi Benoab, there'sSaf, and then there were I don't
have them written down, therewere a couple other, but yeah.
So the second Samuel is wherewe get the different giants from
the Philistines and they saythose are the brothers of

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Goliath of Gath, who foughtagainst David and lost.
There was one more who theydistinguished him by saying that
he had six fingers on each handand six toes on each feet,
equally 24 in total.
And so because there was thatone giant who had that, people

(01:02:51):
have speculated that that is aNephilim trait If somebody has
24 digits, they've got Nephilimblood blood in them.

Speaker 1 (01:02:59):
So what if I have like one extra toe?
Then I don't know, I don't havean answer for that.
Um one fourth nephilim, yeah no, but I mean it.

Speaker 2 (01:03:05):
I mean there's like lore behind that, like the this
presence present darkness book.
There's a character in thatwho's like a bad guy, but he has
six fingers and six toes, ohokay, on each foot and hand, and
so they're like, yeah, he'sworking for the bad guys because
he is a descendant of theNephilim, this demonic group,

(01:03:29):
right, right, so yeah, butthere's a mention of a giant
from egypt who comes up to fightagainst david and his mighty
men, and they put him to sleeppretty quick, a permanent sleep,
yeah, a permanent sleep, somemight even say a shield sleep,
oh, uh.
And another and another famousgiant is Og, the king of Bashan,

(01:03:54):
which Joshua and the people ofIsrael fight against before they
enter the promised land.
But what a name.

Speaker 1 (01:04:03):
Og.
It's because he didn't know howto say Oscar.
Yeah, yeah, his name's Oscar.
His name's Oscar, og Og, yeah,okay, but this is what's funny
His name's.

Speaker 2 (01:04:12):
Oscar.

Speaker 1 (01:04:12):
His name's, Oscar oh.

Speaker 2 (01:04:14):
Og, yeah, okay, but this is what's funny.
Very good, oscar Is like people, like in the Bible, they use
references to try and like, letpeople know, like this is how
big this guy was, right, but forOg, they use his bed.
They're like this guy was sobig that his bed was 12 feet

(01:04:35):
long or something like that.
It's just like so what if hejust liked room to roll around,
Right?
I mean, I could use a 12-footbed.
Yeah, yeah, that's the size ofmost of our rooms.

Speaker 1 (01:04:49):
Yeah, just a nice comfy thing to just spread out
on Just the whole room.
No, I want like a nice comfything to just just a mat just
spread out on the whole room.
Now I want like a nice mattressthat's 12 feet long, 12 feet
wide, 12 by 12 by 12.
Nice, I just want a hugemattress cube just a huge
mattress cube you can actually.

Speaker 2 (01:05:07):
There's a door and you can open it up and go into
it yeah, I want a cat.

Speaker 1 (01:05:10):
I want a mattress room a mattress room nice.
If you want a mattress room, amattress room, nice.
If you want a mattress room,guys, just do something crazy.
They'll put you in a sanicile.
Then you'll have mattresses allover the walls.

Speaker 2 (01:05:18):
Yeah, do they still do that?
Good question, maybe the lasttime you were there were they
doing that.
Yeah, okay, that was last week.

Speaker 1 (01:05:29):
They probably haven't .
The joke, guys, is that I'mcrazy.
Good one, john, for those whoweren't following.

Speaker 2 (01:05:37):
John just called me nuts.
No, so that was.
I mean I didn't go super deepinto it.
I kind of wanted to talk aboutit because we've been talking
about the House of David so muchrecently.
I wanted to get into Nephilim.
It is like all cryptids that wetalk about.
I wanted to get into Nephilim.
It is like all cryptids that wetalk about.
It is a very deep rabbit holethat you can dive into and it

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can get really crazy.
But there is stories of giantsto this day.
That and not like what we have,where it's like a person that's
almost eight foot tall, butthey're really disproportionate.
You know, it's not giantism,it's like a perfectly
proportioned, large human.
Yeah, or some would sayNephilim, nephilim.

Speaker 1 (01:06:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:06:22):
So I mean there's stories of in the Middle East,
of different giant interactions.
We see all the stories ofcolonials coming over and
getting documentation from thenative tribes in the Americas.
Of these we've talked about thedifferent giant tribes of
America and even as much as likedude.

(01:06:43):
There's been some videos thathave come out on TikTok of
people catching a humansilhouette on a mountaintop and
like just basing it on thegeographical terrain, like that
is a massive person.
Where did this happen?
I want to say it was out inutah, it was me.

Speaker 1 (01:07:02):
I went to vacation in utah.
Oh, it was you.
Yeah, I'm tall, everybody.
I don't know if anybody knowsI'm a tall human being.
That's not a joke, I'm tallyeah, but not that tall, you're
not the size of a cypress tree.
Well, I was standing on a.
I was standing on a stool oh,is that what it was?
You were walking on a stoolyeah, walking with two stools,
one on each foot.
Yeah, yeah, it made me as tallas a tree wow, some, some stools

(01:07:29):
, yeah, but yeah, there's I.

Speaker 2 (01:07:33):
You know, I don't think that giants just
disappeared, but we do have torecollect, like, where are they?
Because they're not in everydaylife, but it seems like in the
Bible they were.
It seems like in the Bible theywould come into these different
groups of people and dwellamong humanity.
So why isn't that happeninganymore?
You know, interesting to thinkabout.

(01:07:54):
It makes you wonder, it makesyou wonder.
So, yeah, that's all I've gotAwesome.

Speaker 1 (01:08:01):
Thank you so much for always preparing a corner with
awesome content.

Speaker 2 (01:08:05):
Thank you for making a beautiful intro to the corner.

Speaker 1 (01:08:09):
We work together as a team, good job.
As one Podcast.

Speaker 2 (01:08:15):
Podcast one Until a third person is regularly
helping out.

Speaker 1 (01:08:20):
Right, and then we're a team.

Speaker 2 (01:08:22):
Then we're yeah, then we're a team.

Speaker 1 (01:08:23):
A larger people teams A production team.
A production team.
I heard it here first.
Folks, we are a production team, Dude.

Speaker 2 (01:08:32):
I heard it here first , folks, we are a production
team.
Yeah, and just so you guys know, we've got a sketch idea that
we want to put out there, andI'm going to keep on.

Speaker 1 (01:08:43):
I don't know why you're being vague about it.
I think you talked about it inlast week's episode, yeah the
Pokemon Go exorcism.

Speaker 2 (01:08:47):
Yeah, dude, I'm so excited about that as an idea.
We just got to make it happen.

Speaker 1 (01:08:56):
We just need a cast of people willing to play the
role of Pokemon, to be caughtwith nets and rocks.

Speaker 2 (01:09:05):
Okay, we'll workshop it, because that's what the
funny part of it is, is that,like, the Pokemon aren't there,
right, right, but it's peoplethat are, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:09:16):
We just need a team of five passionate filmmaking
people.

Speaker 2 (01:09:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:09:22):
I agree.

Speaker 2 (01:09:22):
Okay, all right?

Speaker 1 (01:09:24):
Well, that's all I've got, and that's what I have as
well, as well, even though I didthat once already in an outro.
Oh, I said it exactly like that.
That's all I had as well.

Speaker 2 (01:09:39):
All right, well, guys , thank you for listening to
episode 29.

Speaker 1 (01:09:44):
This was episode 29.
Next week is episode 30.
The big 3-0.
Yeah, I can't believe that wehave done this for 30 episodes.
Yeah, not yet, but we'll bethere.

Speaker 2 (01:09:54):
Soon, you guys will have been listening to us for 30
weeks.

Speaker 1 (01:09:58):
Soon, with bonus content sprinkled in, that's
right.

Speaker 2 (01:10:02):
So make sure that if you are on social media, to go
give us a like and a follow.

Speaker 1 (01:10:07):
Just like Pokemon Horizons Girl did.

Speaker 2 (01:10:11):
Yeah, she commented, and guys, we would like it.
Ifons girl did yeah, shecommented, and guys, we would
like it.
If you comment too, please,we're begging you.
No, we're not begging, butwe're asking politely.

Speaker 1 (01:10:24):
That's right, because our mom has raised us right to
say yes and no, please.

Speaker 2 (01:10:30):
Yeah, we sprinkle the please in there somewhere.
Manners, manners, manners,mayonnaise manners.
Christ is Lord and the kingdomis now.
We are the saints that serve.
That sucks that.

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We ended on mayonnaise manner.

Speaker 1 (01:11:12):
That's awful.
That's awful.
That's the worst.
Mayonnaise is the worst.
Mayonnaise stinks.
That's the second time in thisepisode.

Speaker 2 (01:11:22):
We referenced mayo.
What's going on?
Why is there?

Speaker 1 (01:11:25):
so much mayonnaise.
These boys really likemayonnaise.