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Speaker 1 (00:00):
all the NATO cage voted predominantly against the
ceasefire.
I mean 14 countries of all thecountries in the world.
That's a very small number, butthey're very influential
countries that said no to thegenerally very reasonable call
for a ceasefire.
End of the killing.
Let's force a dialogue tohappen.
(00:20):
Get the belligerence into thesame room to have a conversation
.
Release hostages that's a bigpart of it.
Release the hostages right, youcould get all the hostages
released if you just have theceasefire Now.
Israel, the USA, canada, avariety of Western European
nations that are under theumbrella of NATO and it's a very
(00:42):
, very heavy iron umbrella thatyou can't, you're not really
allowed to leave and the FiveEyes voted against.
46 nations abstained.
The rest of the world prettymuch said yeah, we should be
doing this.
But despite that, there's thisweird fanatical fervor within
the leadership of the UnitedStates which seems to be
doubling down on this idea thatwhatever Israel does has to be
(01:07):
supported.
And there's this convergence ofpeople on the left, on the
right, who are in opposition onevery point that comes up, every
single issue, the abortion orwhatever.
They're in total diametricopposition, but on this issue we
see a disturbing convergence,as you crane right.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
The Republicans and then Democrats could only agree
on one thing, which is war.
This has some parallels alsowhere Russia was showing a
willingness to go to thenegotiating table to do
ceasefire, to talk diplomacy youknow all those things that
supposedly democratic countriesbelieve in so much and yet there
(01:50):
was such a lack of willingnessfrom the NATO group to do that
with the Ukraine conflict, eventhough they're losing.
You would think if you were aloser you'd wanna go to the
negotiating table, get the bestdeal you could get.
And yet we're in the same boathere with the.
You mentioned before the showthat the Prime Minister of
(02:10):
Israel is saying that aceasefire means they're
capitulating to a Hamas victory,and you thought that was an
insane type of proposition toput out there.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Oh, it's absolutely insane under I mean on a number
of levels but the idea of simplysaying we're gonna stop killing
, which is killing, and BenjaminNetanyahu and the Israeli
forces who are carrying out theattacks that have been underway
since as a response to theoriginal invasion of Hamas and
the kidnapping of many Israelipeople on October 7th, which
(02:43):
we've discussed in previousshows, was likely an inside job.
I mean, the evidence pointsloudly to the fact that Israel
had foreign knowledge.
They let it happen.
In many ways, their responsehas been aerial bombardments,
white phosphorus, which is a warcrime.
That's been proven.
They've been using whitephosphorus, which never stops
burning.
It kills, mostly innocents.
They've killed well over 8,500people, according to official
(03:06):
estimates so far.
They know that they're notkilling Hamas soldiers.
The vast majority of peoplethat they're killing are
innocents.
The tunnel systems under theGaza have been built up over
decades and decades and decades.
That's where the Hamas soldiersare operating is in the tunnel
system, which is not gettingaffected by the aerial
bombardments.
What is getting it affected aredestroying residential
(03:29):
buildings, schools, hospitals,something like 35 different
medical, medical I forget theword for it.
There's been some big hospitals, but a lot of the smaller ones
are managed by, like UNofficials, un aid workers.
Something like 24 UN aidworkers have been killed by the
Israeli attacks.
(03:50):
Something like 3,000 childrenhave been killed.
They know that they're building, they're creating only a
destructive hate against themthrough the entire Arab world
and beyond.
They know that that's theeffect, and yet they're doing it
anyway.
And yet, when the opportunityto have a ceasefire simply
stopped the killing, get thehostages released, which you say
(04:11):
.
This is all about releasing thehostages.
That's what the excuse has beento bomb the Gaza.
All of a sudden, it's like no,no, no, no.
That will be like against God'swill, almost, that we do this.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Well then, what do you think?
Let's separate rhetoric fromthe actions here.
What is Israel's military,political and maybe even
religious and ideological goalhere with this territory?
Are they trying to just is it adepopulation, genocide type of
(04:46):
thing Get rid of the people whoare alive there?
Are they trying to get rid ofall the infrastructure so
there's nothing left to livethere?
Are they?
Do they wanna occupy thatterritory, rebuild in whatever
way they see fit?
Do they want to even gainterritory beyond the territory
of Gaza?
You know we're looking at mapsthat maybe they're even going
(05:08):
over the boundaries here intoother territory.
What's their ultimate goal, doyou think?
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Well, I think the ultimate goal of those currently
waging the airstrikes, who aresaying no to the UN resolutions,
the people around BenjaminNetanyahu, who is defense
minister, is those who have thecurrent power, who don't
represent the Israeli people.
Again, like there's massiveanti-government protests all
(05:33):
over Israel by the people livingthere, who, by and large,
understand that their interestsare being threatened by the
current administration'sfanatical ideology to take the
path it's taking.
But I think that those who arearound Netanyahu believe in a
greater Israel.
They believe in the in, notjust the idea that it is God's
will to have this land that theycurrently live in completely
(05:57):
purged of the Arabs who had beenliving there for well over, I
mean, a thousand years, 2,000years.
The idea is to purge them.
But then, yeah, as you pointedout, the greater Israel
ideologues believe that theborders of Israel are ultimately
meant to be much larger thanthey are today by a large
(06:17):
measure.
I mean we're talking here, Imean we have Syria would be part
of greater Israel.
A big chunk of Iraq, a bigchunk of Turkey, a big all of
Jordan, about half of Egypt,would all be destined according
to the plans that were put forthby Jabotinsky Rabbi Cook, the
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head of the lead rabbi underBritish mandate.
Palestine, who created theradical Yeshivas that produced
these ideologues like Netanyahu.
They want something that can'thappen.
I mean, you can't get that.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Right, you'd have to go to war with about five
different countries there, butit seems like that might even be
the plan.
That's crazy, isn't it?
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Well, yeah, and I mean I had a look at the.
Have you looked at the RichardPerle 1996 clean break doctrine?
It's a fascinating one.
It was commissioned as soon asYitzhak Rabin was killed.
Richard Perle and Wolfowitz,who were part of the new project
for New American Century, andall these neocons all converged
(07:27):
in this think tank that they putinto motion at this exact
moment.
Yitzhak Rabin was assassinatedas he was preparing, with airfat
, to solidify the two-statesolution, restore back the
pre-1967 borders of Israel andPalestine, but do that with
economic development projects.
That was cut down becauseYitzhak was assassinated by a
(07:49):
radical Zionist from Israel whothought that any capitulation to
the Arabs was against God'swill.
So he had to go on Jihad, killhis own Israeli prime minister.
As soon as that happened,benjamin Netanyahu got his first
hand on the wheel as primeminister of Israel, and
(08:10):
Wolfowitz and Richard Perledrafted a document called Clean
Break A Strategy for Securingthe Realm, and you can go into
this thing.
There's been a lot of effort toscrub this from the internet,
but it's still something one canfind where it calls for
essentially how to, what Israelneeds to do with the backing of
the new neoconservativeadministration that was
(08:33):
preparing the groundwork of 9-11.
They were already setting inthe motion the new Pearl Harbor
that they wanted to create tohave an excuse to send full US
military might into the MiddleEast as part of a new regime
change program.
And it calls for overthrowingIraq, overthrowing Syria,
(08:54):
overthrowing Lebanon,overthrowing Iran with an
Israeli Zionist neocon collusion, the securing of Israel in a
purged zone.
That would be much, much safer,it says in the white paper,
than it could have ever havehappened.
And a big part of that is theattack on Iran.
They need to, because Iran isthe world's fourth biggest
(09:14):
military power.
It was under straight.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
I think they're kind of off the radar for the average
American citizen.
They don't realize thepopulation, the oil, wealth, the
historic significance, all thethings that make Iran more
powerful than we realize.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Oh yeah, it's really.
People think of it as likeanother Iraq and it no.
It's not that at all.
It's a much more integrated,economically advanced country
and the sanctions that they'vebeen under since the ousting of
the Shah back in the 70s have,especially since the 90s and
after 2000,.
Forced them to become reallysovereign in terms of their
capacity, their control of theirsupply chains, their building
(09:54):
up relations of Eurasianpartners, even to the point that
today they have specialsecurity, energy and economic
cooperation agreements.
But security is the big one forthis discussion with China and
with Russia.
That was solidified just overthe last three years in both
cases.
So you have these veryimportant security packs, which
is different from what it wasback when Richard Perle was
(10:17):
writing this clean breakdoctrine for Netanyahu in the
90s, when you had a very, veryweak China, a very, very weak
Russia that had been destroyedunder Perestroika and the
dissolution of the Soviet Union,right when the CIA actually had
offices in the Kremlin.
They had offices in the majordefense buildings of Russia in
the 90s, controlling the Russianmilitary arsenal.
(10:41):
The nuclear arsenal was underthe control of the CIA.
In the 90s we privatized, we gotour puppets like Yitzhakar
Boris Yeltsin to privatize theentire Russian economy.
So we had Western directedpuppets controlled, becoming a
new generation of billionaires.
That made Russia very weak andthey were all and they did the
(11:02):
same thing to China was veryweak too.
But now and this is whereZbigniew Brzezinski said
something that Biden laughed atin 1998.
Biden actually has a videothere's a video footage I could
set it to you of Biden'sbasically joking saying you know
, I was told that by one of myRussian counterparts after he
got back from Moscow that ifyou're not more gentle with
(11:26):
Russia, we might find newalliances with China and Russia.
He says, yeah, good luck to youon that 1999.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
That didn't age well, no, that age terribly.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
And Zbigniew was more clear-minded, zbigniew
Brzezinski, who had orchestratedso much of this.
He's the one who brought in theoriginal batch of neocons with
Rumsfeld and Cheney and RichardPerl and Woolfowitz back in the
70s under Gerald Ford and Carterright.
He brought them in Originally.
He's the one who was writing in1997 in the Grand Chess Board
that the only thing that couldthreaten a new world order that
(11:59):
was being proclaimed as the endof history in 1992 with the
dissolution of the Soviet Union,was a potential alliance of
Iran, china and Russia.
And again he was saying it.
He didn't necessarily believeit could happen, but he was like
that's the only possible thingI could imagine that could
threaten this game plan.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
But look what they've done.
They've forced them into eachother's arms at this point, and
that's what we see playing out,and we were talking before the
show about how we've got this.
The economic alliances of theBRICS supposedly nothing to do
with military agreements, withthat, but it is the Russia,
(12:36):
China, India, Iran, almost therest of the whole world besides
the NATO cage, the USA proxies.
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Speaker 2 (15:22):
Matt, let's talk about the Congress people who
voted for and voted against thisIsraeli military aid package.
When we got the new Speaker ofthe House pro-Trump guy, first
thing he did, as the Speaker,was stand with Israel, and this
is something all the Democratsgot behind as well.
So we only had Thomas Massey,libertarian Republican, voted
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against it because he doesn'twant to vote for any type of
military aid package for anycountry.
It's a principle thing.
And then you have AOC and thesquad voting against it as well
because they stand withPalestine.
So this is an interesting thingwhere the radical Democrats are
on the other side on this issue.
So what does that tell you,when all the Republicans and all
(16:12):
the Democrats agree on this?
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Usually when you get something like that happening.
I mean, there's the thing Ifyou have a good culture, a good
healthy, moral culture, that's afine thing.
You want to get the collusionof people on all sides of the
political aisle to agree onpoints of principle, though they
disagree in differences.
When you have a culture thatbecomes corrupt and stupid and
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stupid becomes normal and thatgoes on for too many decades, as
our case is, it's usually asign that something really bad
is happening.
When something becomes popularand convergence of all voices
usually yeah, it means thatthere's something terrible.
So I think in this case-.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
But doesn't Congress believe in supporting Israel
even more than the averageAmerican citizen?
And what are the beliefs thatthe average, say, evangelical
American has about Israel thatcauses them to support this war?
Speaker 1 (17:14):
That's a loaded one man, I mean.
I think that there's a lot ofcontradictions, walking
contradictions inside of theAmerican and Western psyche
right now.
We are generally Christiansociety, but not all Christians,
just like not all Jews, not allMuslims, are the exact same
thing.
Right, there's manydenominations of all of these
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faiths.
Many points of difference existbetween how do we read, what
philosophical setting do we havein our minds as we read various
texts.
Various texts in the Quran andthe Torah, in the Bible, new
Testament, have metaphoricallanguage to them.
Jesus spoke in metaphor.
There's a poetry to a lot ofthis.
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Now certain groups, certainphilosophical matrices, will say
this is how one should readthis chapter or this chapter or
this, or one should be moreliteralist or one should be
whatever.
In the case of the Americanpeople, there's not one size
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fits all, but there's a generaltendency to read the Bible in
such a manner that presumes andyou could listen to John Hagee
or Benny Hinn or a lot of thepopular televangelists on Vision
TV or other things that havebeen really, really promoted and
get millions and millions andmillions of views Many of these
people obviously tend to veertowards a more conservative
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stance.
Obviously, the particularinterpretation tends to lend
itself towards a new, somethingnew that emerged in the 19th
century called raptureeschatology, and this is a big
one that came out of theAnglican church originally, so
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the Anglicans, which presumethat the sitting monarch is the
head of the church.
Originally, it was King HenryVIII who wanted a divorce, so he
made his own church so that hecould have sex with Anne Boleyn
and divorce Catherine of Aragon.
He was convinced by a cabalist,black magician from Venice
called Francesco Zorzi, from ahigh-level Venetian family, who
(19:25):
became a bit of a counselor toHenry VIII in the 1820s, 1830s
sorry, 1520s, 1530s who saidlook, the only solution is
create your own church.
And it's like that wasn't theonly solution.
First of all, there have beenmany kings before that who
divorced their wives.
They're the king, you could dowhatever you want.
You're the king, you make therules.
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But no, his solution that Zorzithe cabalist proposed from
Venice was make your own church,splinter it even further after
the splintering had alreadybegun and religious wars had
already started.
He's like do it again.
The same year 1534, that ThomasMoore is getting his head shot
off because Thomas Moore isagainst it, the prime minister
of England and the same yearthat the Jesuits are also being
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created, has a, an operationfrom venice, and, for those who
don't know, webster tarplay didamazing work.
Research, that's the goldstandard I see on the, the
venetian role in creating thejesuit.
Back this period, where I'm nota slow, yola was a, a
traumatized mercenary who wentthrough a spiritual crisis, was
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trying to go for a pilgrimage,to raise money to go to the holy
land, to go to jesus, and hefound himself in venice and
saint marc square, in a, and avenetian oligarch woke up, as,
as the story is told, from avision, with an angel who came
to him in his bedroom saying howcould you be sleeping in this
comfort of luxury when you havea holy man, the holiest of men,
outside in the rain?
And he went outside and foundignatious loyalists, smelly and
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dirty, and he brought him in andcleaned him up and took him to
the doge, the highest sort oflike the king of venice, and
took him to the doge, and thedoge was so moved by loyalist
story that he paid for hispilgrimage to the holy land and
gave him the money and theresources and eventually he used
that to, to to found a new sectof christian mercenaries with a
a right of initiation.
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Secret hierarchy inside.
That would pretty all of us.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
So we're seeing for hundreds of years how these
oligarchs and and these powerfulplayers in the global stage had
been mixing religion andgovernment and the ideology
together for their own means ofaccumulating more power yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
So I'm saying that to get people to appreciate how
many of the, the religiousmovements that we take for
granted, don't emergeorganically, but many of them
have emerged through theinfluence of intelligence,
political intelligence,operations that are highly tied
to the, to the occult, thatutilize often things like uh,
cabalistic methods ofself-brainwashing, which is what
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zorzi was a master of.
That's a big part of therenovation of free masonry and
rosa crucianism that that isalways he put into motion as he
created the basis of rosacrucianism that grew into the
hellfire club, the united grandlodge of british masonry, which
is sort of the master lodge thatruns the scottish right in
america, which is sort of the,the right that was created by
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albert pike, the creator of thekkk, the, the right that jayard
grohoover was a devoted 33rddegree member of throughout his
entire life.
The fbi is a generally a freemasonic scottish right group but
it's it's a sister lodge or ajunior lodge to the broader uh
united grand lodge in uh inlondon and this came out of the
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zorzi cabalistic line.
This is also so.
I'm saying this to get acrossthat you had both the jesuit
creation in that same year thatthe, the anglican church was
created with the right aroundthe same venetian operation to
split, splinter and to createthese controlled opposition
groups.
It's all about controllingcreating dual opposition groups,
right that that will.
That will force a polarizationand get people to fight over
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something that will underminetheir actual interests, kind of
like.
Let's take a moment back here,jump to the present.
Why did israel create hamaswith the american intelligence
back in 1987 with the firstintifada?
When hamas exists for thepurpose of exterminating israel,
it's one.
It makes you wonder.
Why did israeli intelligence aschaz freeman, the former us
ambassador to saudi arabia, hepointed out very eloquently it
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was, and he's not alone, it wasisraeli and american
intelligence that created hamas,which is anti.
So that's a paradox.
Why would they do that?
Well, similarly, why didbritish intelligence with the
israelis, uh, create and trainthe palestinian authority, which
is in the west bank, that's,the dominant political structure
of the west bank, and this isthe.
(23:54):
There's the electronic intifadathat released a number of
internal documents proving thatthat's the case, that the adam
smith institute, which is acontractor for mi6, has been
training pia palestinianauthority officials to go in and
clamp down on resistancefighters within palestine who
would be um, so that this is agenerally pro-american,
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pro-israel faction.
Why did this happen?
Well, you created this todestroy, as ron paul made the
point, to destroy the, theconstructive thinking of yasser
arifat, who was the head of thepalestinian liberation
organization and who wanted itwas a more secular approach to
trying to find constructivedialogue with the israelis,
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which manifested in thediscussions that were happening
with the oslo accords, theeconomic development uh
discussions with yitzhakar binyosi, beilin uh, shimon pares
back in the 90s.
That's what arifat was doing.
That's what they wanted todestroy.
So create a more radicalized,religiously fanatic grouping of
hamas, create a more uhestablishment pro-israel
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grouping of the palestinianauthority, get the, polarize it
and then get people and thenundermine the more reasonable
groupings.
In this case, it was arifatback then.
It was people like thomas more,erasmus, who were trying to
take a more principled approachto dealing with the, the
oligarchy back in the in the16th century, which was always
manipulating people in theshadows, and they had to kill um
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thomas more for that.
And and if you look at like,where does a lot of the rapture
movement that really permeatedthe united states?
Where did it come from?
It came from um anglicanoperatives like john nelson
darby, who is a british um.
I think he was a Satanist,frankly I.
He created the, the PlymouthBrethren in the UK that gave
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rise to Alistair Crowley.
He grew out of a PlymouthBrethren Church group.
It was built upon a sort ofmystery sect system In the in
the 1830s.
Well, right after he did that,he went toward the USA six times
before and during and after theCivil War, and Set up these
different branches across the USthat interpreted Thessalonians
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Paul's letters to Thessaloniansfrom a very particular
standpoint, that Gave rise tothe current interpretation of
rapturism.
The Schofield Bible theSchofield Bible that was
published in 1908 by these sameAnglican groups in America,
pushing for an Anglo-Americandivine special relationship.
That's what the whole thing was.
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It was like at the heart ofPentecostalism because that's
where this grew out of was thedrive by by people around
Schofield, the Darbyites, topromote this concept that God
wills that the, the Americansand the British unite in a
divine mission Right rightsounds like the Americans in the
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Israelis uniting in a divinemission, which is a similar
narrative that's being put outthere by these televangelists,
and to me it's a bit hokey.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
You know, to have the Israeli flag and to have these,
these, these charlatans, youknow just beating the pulpits
with these types of warmongeringtype of statements and trying
to rationalize it biblically,and it's become very mainstream.
And I compared a lot to theanti-russian type of
(27:21):
brainwashing that we've had,because you know, to get the
whole United States populationagainst Russia, the USSR during
the Cold War involved a lot ofpropaganda, you know talking
about every James Bond movie hada Russian villain, right, yeah,
so you have a whole generation,multiple generations, of
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Americans who don't like Russia,don't trust Russia or anything
that's Russian.
And so, of course, now thatwe've got a modern Russia that's
different from the past, thatthat it's still the boogeyman
for the Democratic Party, thatthe scapegoat for everything,
and now all the Americans areseeing Russia through that lens
(28:05):
rather than through more of arealistic and time relevant lens
.
And now it's a similar thingwith with Israel that I'm seeing
with a lot of people of thesame Generation, the baby boomer
generation, which is a very bigpopulation group, very powerful
because they have the money andthey have the positions of
(28:26):
power, and Yet they've grown upwith the same type of
programming that Israel is thevictim.
It's a biblical destiny forAmerica to aid Israel.
That anyone who's Arab you know,on a different side that's is a
terrorist.
They use this word terrorist tolump anyone who's against
(28:48):
Israel, whatever, and so thewhole 9-11, cyop was basically
also to get Americans to thinkthat anyone who wears a turban,
anyone who wears a, a cloth,headdress, anyone who's Muslim,
is a terrorist, you know.
(29:10):
And so it's very difficult forI think, for the older
generation it's interestingbecause a lot of the younger
generation is actually antiIsrael.
So so you get like the AOC andthe squad is anti Israel, and
then the, the older generation,is pro Israel.
But.
But like we've said in the past, this type of tribalism and
(29:30):
this type of like a veryPolarizing and pro-war type of
stance is very unhealthy.
So anything else you want tosay about this, this idea of
this being very Religiouslyideological, it's a holy war for
the holy land, and how thatcould play out.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
Yeah, I mean some people might accuse me of being
maybe a little repetitive orsomething, but I think it's
important to be just reminded,to be self-aware of the subtle
spells, hypnotic spells that aretransgenerational, that shape
the matrix in which we were born.
We have to because if you wantto Deal with the reality of
(30:12):
living in an oligarchallyinfluenced world, which all of
humanity has always beeninfluenced by, a high priesthood
of oligarchs representing oldfamilies, that's not taught in
our popular textbooks, right?
That's not generally.
That's not generally acceptableopinions, but it's fact, it's
still true, and the foundingfathers understood this much
better than our currentgeneration of Canadians and
Americans understand this.
(30:32):
That's how they were able tonavigate through the minefield
of British intelligence, whichwas not less sophisticated back
then, and that it is today.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
It's just that we actually have almost an oligarch
worship in American culture,where the Rockefellers and the
Kennedys and these powerfuldynasties and families are
revered, and now we've got thesetech Tech oligarchs who are
like the kind of beacons of thisis what?
If you work hard and you dropout of college and you pursue
(30:59):
your idea, then someday youcould be like Mark Zuckerberg,
steve Jobs, bill Gates, jeffBezos.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
Yeah, right, yeah, and if you have a High-level
family member in the militaryindustrial complex committed to
depopulation, you might getlucky and be a cardboard cutout
selected to To sell some sort ofa product.
That's that's gonna brainwashpeople.
Yeah, no, I know they've createdthis mystique, this, it's
really a Propaganda operationwhere we've been led to believe
(31:30):
that these are all just these,these unique, brilliant people
that came out of their garagesand we forget the fact that no,
these are cardboard cutouts,selected and used and ultimately
disposable, ultimate, at theend of the day, to advance
things that normally peoplewould be unwilling to accept.
Like you know, ibm Systems intheir home as computer operating
(31:53):
systems, which is why Microsofthad to be created in the first
place, because IBM was still tooAssociated with the Nazis back
in the 70s, when people stillhad a bit more understanding of
their history.
They're like no, I won't rest.
I don't necessarily want totrust IBM to be in every home.
You know, surveilling me.
So, all that to say, it's goodto be sort of, to take a step
(32:14):
back and see how we over we havean unhealthy relationship with
this elite idea.
Now, in the case of what wewere talking about, with the,
the tendency, the ironicaltendency of many conservative
Christians to support Israel.
It regardless of what type ofinjustice is done by.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
There doesn't seem to be any type of boundary,
doesn't matter what the state ofIsrael, what kind of inhumane.
No thing they would do, anytype of atrocity, there's
literally nothing they could do.
Yeah would cause a, anideological American Christian,
to say you know what?
At this point I'm not gonnaside with this, yeah, state of
(32:58):
Israel.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
I'm not so comfortable with this.
Yeah, well, part of this andyou got to listen to I listen
sometimes to John Hage Was thesegiant football stadiums full of
people you know listening tohis sermons and you know you
recently had Ted Cruz Cruz onthe stage with him and they were
(33:20):
effectively calling for warwith Iran, as he was doing back
in the 90s.
The, the great axis of Eagleevil that would, you know,
manifest.
Finally, the prophecies from2000 years ago of the battle of
of Megiddo finally taking placeand Gog and Magog and Russia is
the, is the Gog and and andfinally it's here.
You know Now, the Darbyiteskeep in mind we're also talking
(33:41):
about this back when Russia wasalso targeted for destruction
back at the 1850s with theCrimean War, that that was how
they were interpreting the endtimes before the US Civil War.
You know, megiddo, the Bible,megiddo was was interpreted.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
Isn't that convenient ?
The the way war propagandistsinterpret the Bible for their
plans.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
Yes, there, every time things go bad in society
and people go through economicscarcity, there's a financial
depression, under resurgence ofwars, there's always going,
there is always and always hasbeen, a massive spike of
Eschatological aka end timescults that always grow always.
(34:21):
It's always the case thatinterpret like now is the time,
now is the end time, in whateverTorah, quran, bible, language
or books that I'm using thattalk about and end times, now,
that now is the moment.
Because you know it's a bit ofan arrogant thing in my mind,
but that's, that's what JohnHagee really exemplifies.
And so there's a a bit of anironic Antisemitism that John
(34:47):
Hagee would not admit to havinghad.
Because what are they?
What are these People whopromoted Dick Cheney and the
rise of the neocons and theunquestioning support of the war
on terror?
You know you're with us or withterrorists?
Yeah, of course we're againstterrorists.
Let's, let's support, you know,bombing the hell out of the,
the countries that had nothingto do with 9-11, that whole
grouping.
They actually kind of want tosee Armageddon.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
They kind of want that nuclear war to happen, they
don't row seats for their theirbig you know.
Yeah, so they have in theirmind exactly.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
It's a movie and and so Part of it is they.
They want things that willresult in the mass extermination
of Jews.
They've got a view that theJews now, because we're going to
usher in the apocalypse of Johnand and the book of Daniel will
manifest at all.
Now the Christ, now Christ willcome back with if we do that,
(35:41):
and at which point all of thedead Jews will now become
Christian and In in, you knowthe in paradise.
That's insane, I'm sorry.
In my view, that's.
That is nuts.
It's sad yeah sad, becauseyou're basically saying that
we're gonna exterminate all thepeople.
And keep in mind too, thereason why the Jews were all,
(36:04):
the reason why they wereconvinced to all go to this very
volatile region in the desertin the first place, was because
you had a bunch of pro-fascistAnti-Semites like Lord Balfour,
like Lloyd George, like LordMilner, who despised the Jews,
like Darby actually was ananti-Semite, but they all Wanted
to.
Lord Shaftisbury, the BritishAnglican, who was the first sort
(36:27):
of Zionist, who founded modernZionism in the 1830s with Darby
who proselytized, sent outmissionaries into Eastern Europe
and into Russia to try toconvince the Jews that they want
to leave Europe, can go to thethe desert.
That that guy.
They're all anti-semites.
They wanted a world purged ofJews, but yet they devoted so
much of their time and energy tocreating a movement For a
(36:49):
homeland.
They did purge the Jews fromEurope.
They did.
They did a great job.
They did more than Hitler couldhave dreams that and that's
actually there's.
That's a whole sideconversation.
But and and so these samegroupings are also promoting
Through, the same occult groupslike that are working through
the Akrona.
Like I mentioned, zeregeiZubatov, who is the head of the
(37:10):
Ocarina, radical anti-semite inRussia.
That's the Russian secretpolice.
He's also promoting theprotocols of Zion.
Right, the, the forge documentsthat are just retooled,
documents that took languagefrom a Satire essay from 30
years earlier.
Um called a discourse betweenMachiavelli and Montesquieu, and
(37:32):
then you could see that this,this original document from the
From the 1860s, that they justtook the same language, retooled
it to make it a Jewish cabalinstead of another kind of cabal
.
And then they they put this outthere into the Russian courts
to convince the czar Nicholasthe second To purge all of his
advisors who were working withthe American system school of
(37:53):
Abraham Lincoln, charlesSumner's, william Seward,
william Gilpin, all theseAmerican Grand strategists who
had understood the nature of theBritish global intrigue system
we're working with patriots inRussia and who had to be blamed
or labeled as Jewish Puppetstrying to destroy Russia.
And look, we got the protocolsto prove it.
(38:14):
So Zubatov, who's ananti-semite, promoting the
protocols of Zion, destroyingthe, the pro development, pro
industrial movement in Russia,right, that gets that works.
The Stupid czar Nicholas thesecond actually does fire these
people.
Like Sergei Vita, who's at apro-American Finance minister,
he's fired now all of a sudden.
He has no good advisors, hestarts misstepping left and
(38:37):
right, doubling down on thingsthat lead into the Bolshevik
Revolution, which is anothertrap set for Russia to destroy
them by by Clamping down on onJews, creating Jewish pogroms,
forcing Jews into little ghettosin Russia that they're not
allowed to leave, having riotersgo into Jewish neighborhoods,
killing Jews in the 1890sbecause the protocols are now
(38:58):
like you know the proof.
And and then Zubatov is alsoworking with Jabotinsky.
Jabotinsky is the, the leadingpolitical Zionist, very violent
figure, working with Rabbi Cookto bring all of the Jews into
into Zion, into Jerusalem, andCarry out jihad against those
who are already living there.
(39:19):
And there's massive atrocitiesby Jabotinsky's mercenaries,
supported by the British.
And Then, inversely, theBritish are also supporting
radical factions of Islamicsects around the Salafiists, who
are being supported and thisbecomes the Muslim Brotherhood,
who then carry out these eye foran eye Conflicts resulting in
these forever hostilities.
(39:40):
But the that's what the currentChristians who are supporting
this whole holy war end times,rapture theology.
They're ultimately promotingthe mass murder and
extermination of the Jews thatthey say they love so much and
themselves.
Frankly, because when yourelease that type of conflict,
(40:01):
we don't know what's gonnahappen if you, israel has
something like at least 300nuclear weapons, possibly a lot
more.
Right is the is the US.
Lindsey Graham is saying thatwe need to strike Iran now.
If Iran comes in, if you startstriking Iran, and Israel's
already Attacking Syria.
They're already attackingLebanon.
You know you got strikes fromfrom Hama, from Hezbollah, into
northern Gaza as well, into intoIsrael Not Gaza story into
(40:26):
Israel.
You got a ground invasion, butIsrael's attacking all of these
other Arab states around them.
You got, you know, theseneocons frothing at the mouth
saying now's our time To strikeIran.
Iran is sitting there.
They've been very, verywithholding and keeping
themselves, despite the amountsof hundreds of their leaders and
scientists getting assassinatedby Anglo-American and British
intelligence over the past 20years.
They have withheld quite a bit.
(40:47):
It's incredible how muchwithholding they've done.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
It is kind of interesting because I remember
Decade, two decades ago, youknow, the comments of wiping
Israel off the map were justrepeated on, you know, cnn a
million times to try to take,get it into Americans minds is
that Iran wants to destroyIsrael and that that's the only
way that they they view Israelis is by, you know, wiping it
(41:15):
off the map.
And yet we haven't heard a peep, you know, out of Iran.
You know, at least I haven'tlooked into it and it hasn't
been published in the USAMainstream media as far as I
know.
So that that is interesting.
And maybe they're holding their, their cards close right now to
see how things play out.
And, you know, seems likeRussia and China and some of the
(41:40):
major countries who are callingfor the ceasefire Are trying to
be diplomatic, right, I mean,this is, this is like the
Ukraine conflict, where it seemslike there there is a
contingent of the majority ofthe countries of the world want
peace, want diplomacy, and yetit is that NATO cage as you you
(42:02):
called it, the USA and itsproxies, yeah, and you've talked
about in the past, you'vetalked about the Anglo roots of
power and how the, the BritishIntelligence and the British
power structures use the USA asa dumb giant, that the military
power to achieve its means.
Hmm, and some, some people wouldeven interpret that and maybe,
(42:27):
maybe this is very closelyconnected.
The Israel Uses the UnitedStates as its dumb giant.
You know that you have theIsrael lobby right that donates
a lot to American politicians.
Then they maybe feel like theyown those politicians, oh yeah,
and then those politicians voteto send huge aid packages.
(42:48):
Billy, we're talking billionsof dollars.
I mean, does America give asmuch money to any other country
in the world?
Oh, no, so so then who worksfor who?
Who's really more powerful?
Master or the puppet.
So so that's a great question.
Is there a connection herebetween the Anglo controllers
and the Israeli controllers?
Speaker 1 (43:09):
Yeah, yeah, it's a way of getting to two idiots to
Serve a higher power thatultimately wants to destroy both
idiots.
So what they did, if you lookat, we already went through in
previous shows the Britishcreation of Israel.
Right, we already.
We already went through that.
People can watch our previousepisodes if they want to.
(43:29):
So the British created Israelout of British Mandate Palestine
.
They're the ones who createdthe whole movement to begin with
, with the help of their pilgrimsociety, anglo-american
collaborators in the fifthcolumn operations within the
United States that took overcontrol of foreign policy over
the dead body of WilliamMcKinley, murdered in 1901, and
(43:52):
continued to grow.
They created the, the councilon foreign relation right is the
American branch of the BritishRoundtable Woman created by or
steered by Lord Milner, who isalso the co-writer of the
Belfort courts.
So you had this whole Takeoverthat is increasingly happening
over the dead bodies of manypresidents willy, warren,
harding, franklin Roosevelt.
Many of Roosevelt's allies arepurged, many are killed who are
(44:14):
very high-level people theformer district, or the man who
is going to become districtattorney and fire Hoover, friend
of Roosevelt, is killed in 1932.
Many, many, many a JFK right.
So what's happening?
You have, once Israel iscreated a day later, british.
The British give up theirmandate on Palestine.
Now it's Israel.
Part of it involves thecreation of Israel and the UN
(44:36):
security.
The UN resolution that createsIsrael also demands the creation
of Palestine.
Only half of that, that rule isfollowed.
Israel, not Palestine.
Palestine's never, never,allowed to see the table.
They're never recognized as anation as Israel is.
So that's illegal, but they doit anyway.
So then you have the Mossad iscreated after Shin Bet, which is
Israeli intelligence.
That's a convergence of avariety the the Haganah party
(44:59):
and other the Haganah movement.
Other things are convergent toan Israeli intelligence
operation With Shin Bet, the IDL.
But then you have in 1950,mossad.
Mossad is created by the CIA.
But the CIA was created afterthe purge of the OSS, you're
right.
So the OSS is purged in 1946,september.
Now, that's what.
What has Sorry?
1945, september by Truman.
(45:19):
This is where you have badpeople in the OSS, but you have
a lot of good people in the OSS,a lot of people who really
understand British imperial WallStreet Grant strategy for
fascism.
They get it, their purge.
The only the evil ones, likeAlan Dellister, kept, takes two
years to reorganize the Britishhelp under the new
Anglo-American Specialrelationship that Churchill
announces the same day, theycreate the five eyes.
(45:41):
Or what becomes the five eyes?
The US, you, uk, usa SignalsAgreement in 1946, may, may 6,
same day as the Iron Curtainspeech, same day as the
Anglo-American specialrelationship.
It and and my six now is allover Washington.
The Rhodes scholars, theFabians who are there in the
wings in the State Department,now take Control under Truman.
They're working now to create anew intelligence apparatus
(46:04):
which Truman, the young proto,george Bush Jr, idiot overseas,
he supports.
Now it's created, it's calledthe CIA, but the CIA is not
American.
By and large it's a foreignagency in America with good
people sometimes in it, butoverall it's foreign directed.
This is then what is used, thisAnglo-American thing to create
Mossad.
The ADL grew out of the Ben Eyebreath.
The Ben Eye breath goes back tothe 1850s as the sort of Jewish
(46:27):
branch of the Metzene,palmerston, young Europe.
You know, young Turk, youngAlbania, young German, young
French, young America movements.
Albert Pike was the head of thesouthern branch of the young
America Freemasonic group.
This, this is the weaponizationof people for the sake of
Overthrowing governments.
You don't like to creategeopolitical effects that are
beneficial to the British Empire, which is itself operating
(46:49):
through these Masonic frontgroups.
That's what the Ben Eye breathcomes out of.
It's a freemasonic front groupwith a lot of freemason.
They will deny it, but it's.
It's demonstrable that this iswhat it was.
This is what gives birth to theADL.
A new breed of nominally Jewishnames are assigned roles of
being mercenaries Within thisestablished order.
(47:13):
You know, the Bronfman's arecreated to start setting up
organized crime.
Mayor Lansky comes out of theBronfman operation right as far
as like Jewish crime syndicatesthat are tied to Operations that
will involve money laundering,offshore accounts, other things
that organize as internationalcrime.
The British came in islands.
A lot of British territoriesare very useful to cultivate
(47:36):
this.
The system that involves theflow of narcotics trafficking,
other things that will be usefulin the age of the Cold War.
So during the Cold War they needand the CIA openly is working
with look lucky Luciana with themafia.
It's a big part of how they'reable to control much of South
America.
The Cuba, other things, right,that's Marilanski's play
(47:56):
playground.
Is Cuba before Castro, the.
They're working closely withthe United Fruit Company, which
is a CIA front group thatoversees the overthrowing of
various governments that are alittle bit too for the people
across Latin America andinstalls right wing and when I
say right wing I'm talking Nazi,I'm not talking typical
conservative talking to Naziregimes in South America running
(48:18):
death squads, advised usuallyby unreconstructed Nazis, which
were also hired by the CIA Rightand given new jobs, new
assignments.
Speaker 2 (48:28):
So this is a good time to point out here there is
no ethnic Basis really of thisdeep state that you're
describing.
You just described Britishallied with German, nazis allied
with Israelis, you know.
So it's not like One unifiedethnic or religious group.
(48:52):
The only thing that maybeunifies them is that that thirst
for power.
And then the long game I thinkyou were hinting at this before
Is that the Anglos Would happilyBring down Israel in the United
States in the endgame.
(49:12):
Right to that, they destroyeach other, they, they get
destroyed in a world war, andthen what's left is this kind of
the playbook of the globalistto be able to make an
international order.
Speaker 1 (49:27):
Yeah, they want an oligarchic collectivism with a
highly reduced traumatizedpopulation which will be Willing
to accept after a sustainedamount of trauma and we're
talking trauma Like you can'teven imagine, like dark-aged
trauma, nuclear war trauma, liketrauma so seeing your friends
and family starving, dying onthe streets that type of trauma
for a sustained period, kind oflike what was done in the in the
(49:48):
Great Depression.
If people it's hard to imaginethe type of of pain suffered,
then people become moresusceptible to superstition,
more desperate, more inclined tobecome fanatical and more
accepting of a new narrative,which is also part of the great
reset, great narrative projectthat claus Schwab unveiled a
year and a half ago that youknow.
(50:08):
We need now new post-Christiannarratives that are gonna
replace the outdated, outdated,obsolete, old sacred stories
that animated us for 2,000 years, that are no longer applicable
to the transhumanist age youwill own nothing and be happy
guy a worship yeah like, how doyou normalize that?
How do you normalize eating bugs?
Like you've got to have likesome serious Religious sort of
(50:32):
justification to give you asense like that you're gonna be
a better person or somehow likethat, that this is what you'll
want to do and promote.
Yeah, so that this is and thisis again this brings in.
If people want to know, why dothe governments of the world all
of a sudden, or especially theUnited States, want us to think
about aliens all of a sudden?
Why is this all over our mediaand congressional hearings and
(50:53):
NASA inquiries and Air Forceinquiries and Pentagon inquiries
into, like aliens, ufo contactwith humans?
We there's very powerful forcesthat want us to think about
these things right now.
That's why they're preparingthe groundwork for something
that will be brought in as a newUFO Right order with well, you
you talked about trauma.
Speaker 2 (51:13):
So maybe, maybe that, maybe that's it that there's
gonna be a UFO related traumaand maybe a UFO related Savior
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Okay, matt, we've got fiveminutes left here, so let's
let's bring this To a conclusionabout what people can do,
because I think it's a veryimportant point to make a
(53:45):
conclusion about what people cando, because I think If people
are on Twitter and people arecivically engaged or engaged in
talking about politics, I thinkthey feel forced into a camp.
They have to be in the pro, proPalestine, pro Hamas camp or the
pro Israel camp here.
(54:06):
And and so is there another wayto, to engage with our fellow,
you know, let's say our fellowAmerican citizens or Canadian
citizens here, to talk aboutthis without the religiosity,
without the fervor, without theideal being an ideologue about
it?
Uh, and just talk about thefacts and figures.
(54:27):
What are some resources, whatare some mindsets or
perspectives you might suggest?
Speaker 1 (54:33):
Hmm, well, I think that what people need to do is
help develop means ofcommunicating in ways that help
People who are confused.
See paradoxes like what Imentioned here.
You know Hamas wants Israeldestroyed.
Right, that's part of theircharter.
They want no Israel.
They want Israel to be wipedoff the map.
Well then, why did Israelcreate them?
Right, that's a paradox.
Just let it sit right.
(54:53):
So, speaking that way Becausepeople tend to get into didactic
, literalistic languagesometimes, which is just going
to be polarizing you're nothelping the mind of the person
you're talking to See wherethere's a break with what they
think and reality.
So you want to help people seewhere is their differentiation
between what you believe in andreality.
Right, that's the paradox.
(55:13):
Um, so be.
The other thing I would say islook to points where there were
Reasonable prospects for peace,because that's what has to be
restored into the conversation.
Most Israelis living in Israelwant that.
They want peace with the Arabs.
That's what Trump's AbrahamAccords were all about.
That's what was really beingtargeted for.
Destruction Is the type ofconstructive Dynamic that would
(55:35):
is.
It was being birthed with theAbraham Accords of recognizing,
which was moving very fast, andit and China and Russia.
Were supporting thisorientation of recognizing
Israel by the Arab neighbors forthe first time.
It was moving fast.
Economic development was whatTrump had put into motion to
around building infrastructuretogether, to start healing
hostility.
That has to be restored.
(55:56):
That's what Yatsaker bin andthe air fat were doing in the
90s.
That's what has to be donetoday.
That's what China and Russiahave been doing by creating
stabilized regions all over theMiddle East.
That type of thing, that typeof thing, has to be recognized.
Speaker 2 (56:07):
Um so I'd builders versus the destroyers.
It's a very simple concept,isn't it?
You know?
If the people who want to buildtogether one economic
prosperity.
And you really put aside theideology when you start building
something, don't you?
You're using, uh, basicmathematics to, to, to build,
build a infrastructure project,and you're putting aside the
(56:29):
esoteric Stuff for a moment.
Yeah, you become that's reallyinteresting.
Speaker 1 (56:34):
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all the NATO cage voted predominantly against the
ceasefire.
I mean 14 countries of all thecountries in the world.
That's a very small number, butthey're very influential
countries that said no to thegenerally very reasonable call
for a ceasefire.
End of the killing.
Let's force a dialogue tohappen.
(00:20):
Get the belligerence into thesame room to have a conversation
.
Release hostages that's a bigpart of it.
Release the hostages right, youcould get all the hostages
released if you just have theceasefire Now.
Israel, the USA, canada, avariety of Western European
nations that are under theumbrella of NATO and it's a very
(00:42):
, very heavy iron umbrella thatyou can't, you're not really
allowed to leave and the FiveEyes voted against.
46 nations abstained.
The rest of the world prettymuch said yeah, we should be
doing this.
But despite that, there's thisweird fanatical fervor within
the leadership of the UnitedStates which seems to be
doubling down on this idea thatwhatever Israel does has to be
(01:07):
supported.
And there's this convergence ofpeople on the left, on the
right, who are in opposition onevery point that comes up, every
single issue, the abortion orwhatever.
They're in total diametricopposition, but on this issue we
see a disturbing convergence,as you crane right.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
The Republicans and then Democrats could only agree
on one thing, which is war.
This has some parallels alsowhere Russia was showing a
willingness to go to thenegotiating table to do
ceasefire, to talk diplomacy youknow all those things that
supposedly democratic countriesbelieve in so much and yet there
(01:50):
was such a lack of willingnessfrom the NATO group to do that
with the Ukraine conflict, eventhough they're losing.
You would think if you were aloser you'd wanna go to the
negotiating table, get the bestdeal you could get.
And yet we're in the same boathere with the.
You mentioned before the showthat the Prime Minister of
(02:10):
Israel is saying that aceasefire means they're
capitulating to a Hamas victory,and you thought that was an
insane type of proposition toput out there.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Oh, it's absolutely insane under I mean on a number
of levels but the idea of simplysaying we're gonna stop killing
, which is killing, and BenjaminNetanyahu and the Israeli
forces who are carrying out theattacks that have been underway
since as a response to theoriginal invasion of Hamas and
the kidnapping of many Israelipeople on October 7th, which
(02:43):
we've discussed in previousshows, was likely an inside job.
I mean, the evidence pointsloudly to the fact that Israel
had foreign knowledge.
They let it happen.
In many ways, their responsehas been aerial bombardments,
white phosphorus, which is a warcrime.
That's been proven.
They've been using whitephosphorus, which never stops
burning.
It kills, mostly innocents.
They've killed well over 8,500people, according to official
(03:06):
estimates so far.
They know that they're notkilling Hamas soldiers.
The vast majority of peoplethat they're killing are
innocents.
The tunnel systems under theGaza have been built up over
decades and decades and decades.
That's where the Hamas soldiersare operating is in the tunnel
system, which is not gettingaffected by the aerial
bombardments.
What is getting it affected aredestroying residential
(03:29):
buildings, schools, hospitals,something like 35 different
medical, medical I forget theword for it.
There's been some big hospitals, but a lot of the smaller ones
are managed by, like UNofficials, un aid workers.
Something like 24 UN aidworkers have been killed by the
Israeli attacks.
(03:50):
Something like 3,000 childrenhave been killed.
They know that they're building, they're creating only a
destructive hate against themthrough the entire Arab world
and beyond.
They know that that's theeffect, and yet they're doing it
anyway.
And yet, when the opportunityto have a ceasefire simply
stopped the killing, get thehostages released, which you say
(04:11):
.
This is all about releasing thehostages.
That's what the excuse has beento bomb the Gaza.
All of a sudden, it's like no,no, no, no.
That will be like against God'swill, almost, that we do this.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Well then, what do you think?
Let's separate rhetoric fromthe actions here.
What is Israel's military,political and maybe even
religious and ideological goalhere with this territory?
Are they trying to just is it adepopulation, genocide type of
(04:46):
thing Get rid of the people whoare alive there?
Are they trying to get rid ofall the infrastructure so
there's nothing left to livethere?
Are they?
Do they wanna occupy thatterritory, rebuild in whatever
way they see fit?
Do they want to even gainterritory beyond the territory
of Gaza?
You know we're looking at mapsthat maybe they're even going
(05:08):
over the boundaries here intoother territory.
What's their ultimate goal, doyou think?
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Well, I think the ultimate goal of those currently
waging the airstrikes, who aresaying no to the UN resolutions,
the people around BenjaminNetanyahu, who is defense
minister, is those who have thecurrent power, who don't
represent the Israeli people.
Again, like there's massiveanti-government protests all
(05:33):
over Israel by the people livingthere, who, by and large,
understand that their interestsare being threatened by the
current administration'sfanatical ideology to take the
path it's taking.
But I think that those who arearound Netanyahu believe in a
greater Israel.
They believe in the in, notjust the idea that it is God's
will to have this land that theycurrently live in completely
(05:57):
purged of the Arabs who had beenliving there for well over, I
mean, a thousand years, 2,000years.
The idea is to purge them.
But then, yeah, as you pointedout, the greater Israel
ideologues believe that theborders of Israel are ultimately
meant to be much larger thanthey are today by a large
(06:17):
measure.
I mean we're talking here, Imean we have Syria would be part
of greater Israel.
A big chunk of Iraq, a bigchunk of Turkey, a big all of
Jordan, about half of Egypt,would all be destined according
to the plans that were put forthby Jabotinsky Rabbi Cook, the
(06:38):
head of the lead rabbi underBritish mandate.
Palestine, who created theradical Yeshivas that produced
these ideologues like Netanyahu.
They want something that can'thappen.
I mean, you can't get that.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Right, you'd have to go to war with about five
different countries there, butit seems like that might even be
the plan.
That's crazy, isn't it?
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Well, yeah, and I mean I had a look at the.
Have you looked at the RichardPerle 1996 clean break doctrine?
It's a fascinating one.
It was commissioned as soon asYitzhak Rabin was killed.
Richard Perle and Wolfowitz,who were part of the new project
for New American Century, andall these neocons all converged
(07:27):
in this think tank that they putinto motion at this exact
moment.
Yitzhak Rabin was assassinatedas he was preparing, with airfat
, to solidify the two-statesolution, restore back the
pre-1967 borders of Israel andPalestine, but do that with
economic development projects.
That was cut down becauseYitzhak was assassinated by a
(07:49):
radical Zionist from Israel whothought that any capitulation to
the Arabs was against God'swill.
So he had to go on Jihad, killhis own Israeli prime minister.
As soon as that happened,benjamin Netanyahu got his first
hand on the wheel as primeminister of Israel, and
(08:10):
Wolfowitz and Richard Perledrafted a document called Clean
Break A Strategy for Securingthe Realm, and you can go into
this thing.
There's been a lot of effort toscrub this from the internet,
but it's still something one canfind where it calls for
essentially how to, what Israelneeds to do with the backing of
the new neoconservativeadministration that was
(08:33):
preparing the groundwork of 9-11.
They were already setting inthe motion the new Pearl Harbor
that they wanted to create tohave an excuse to send full US
military might into the MiddleEast as part of a new regime
change program.
And it calls for overthrowingIraq, overthrowing Syria,
(08:54):
overthrowing Lebanon,overthrowing Iran with an
Israeli Zionist neocon collusion, the securing of Israel in a
purged zone.
That would be much, much safer,it says in the white paper,
than it could have ever havehappened.
And a big part of that is theattack on Iran.
They need to, because Iran isthe world's fourth biggest
(09:14):
military power.
It was under straight.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
I think they're kind of off the radar for the average
American citizen.
They don't realize thepopulation, the oil, wealth, the
historic significance, all thethings that make Iran more
powerful than we realize.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Oh yeah, it's really.
People think of it as likeanother Iraq and it no.
It's not that at all.
It's a much more integrated,economically advanced country
and the sanctions that they'vebeen under since the ousting of
the Shah back in the 70s have,especially since the 90s and
after 2000,.
Forced them to become reallysovereign in terms of their
capacity, their control of theirsupply chains, their building
(09:54):
up relations of Eurasianpartners, even to the point that
today they have specialsecurity, energy and economic
cooperation agreements.
But security is the big one forthis discussion with China and
with Russia.
That was solidified just overthe last three years in both
cases.
So you have these veryimportant security packs, which
is different from what it wasback when Richard Perle was
(10:17):
writing this clean breakdoctrine for Netanyahu in the
90s, when you had a very, veryweak China, a very, very weak
Russia that had been destroyedunder Perestroika and the
dissolution of the Soviet Union,right when the CIA actually had
offices in the Kremlin.
They had offices in the majordefense buildings of Russia in
the 90s, controlling the Russianmilitary arsenal.
(10:41):
The nuclear arsenal was underthe control of the CIA.
In the 90s we privatized, we gotour puppets like Yitzhakar
Boris Yeltsin to privatize theentire Russian economy.
So we had Western directedpuppets controlled, becoming a
new generation of billionaires.
That made Russia very weak andthey were all and they did the
(11:02):
same thing to China was veryweak too.
But now and this is whereZbigniew Brzezinski said
something that Biden laughed atin 1998.
Biden actually has a videothere's a video footage I could
set it to you of Biden'sbasically joking saying you know
, I was told that by one of myRussian counterparts after he
got back from Moscow that ifyou're not more gentle with
(11:26):
Russia, we might find newalliances with China and Russia.
He says, yeah, good luck to youon that 1999.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
That didn't age well, no, that age terribly.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
And Zbigniew was more clear-minded, zbigniew
Brzezinski, who had orchestratedso much of this.
He's the one who brought in theoriginal batch of neocons with
Rumsfeld and Cheney and RichardPerl and Woolfowitz back in the
70s under Gerald Ford and Carterright.
He brought them in Originally.
He's the one who was writing in1997 in the Grand Chess Board
that the only thing that couldthreaten a new world order that
(11:59):
was being proclaimed as the endof history in 1992 with the
dissolution of the Soviet Union,was a potential alliance of
Iran, china and Russia.
And again he was saying it.
He didn't necessarily believeit could happen, but he was like
that's the only possible thingI could imagine that could
threaten this game plan.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
But look what they've done.
They've forced them into eachother's arms at this point, and
that's what we see playing out,and we were talking before the
show about how we've got this.
The economic alliances of theBRICS supposedly nothing to do
with military agreements, withthat, but it is the Russia,
(12:36):
China, India, Iran, almost therest of the whole world besides
the NATO cage, the USA proxies.
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Speaker 2 (15:22):
Matt, let's talk about the Congress people who
voted for and voted against thisIsraeli military aid package.
When we got the new Speaker ofthe House pro-Trump guy, first
thing he did, as the Speaker,was stand with Israel, and this
is something all the Democratsgot behind as well.
So we only had Thomas Massey,libertarian Republican, voted
(15:48):
against it because he doesn'twant to vote for any type of
military aid package for anycountry.
It's a principle thing.
And then you have AOC and thesquad voting against it as well
because they stand withPalestine.
So this is an interesting thingwhere the radical Democrats are
on the other side on this issue.
So what does that tell you,when all the Republicans and all
(16:12):
the Democrats agree on this?
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Usually when you get something like that happening.
I mean, there's the thing Ifyou have a good culture, a good
healthy, moral culture, that's afine thing.
You want to get the collusionof people on all sides of the
political aisle to agree onpoints of principle, though they
disagree in differences.
When you have a culture thatbecomes corrupt and stupid and
(16:39):
stupid becomes normal and thatgoes on for too many decades, as
our case is, it's usually asign that something really bad
is happening.
When something becomes popularand convergence of all voices
usually yeah, it means thatthere's something terrible.
So I think in this case-.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
But doesn't Congress believe in supporting Israel
even more than the averageAmerican citizen?
And what are the beliefs thatthe average, say, evangelical
American has about Israel thatcauses them to support this war?
Speaker 1 (17:14):
That's a loaded one man, I mean.
I think that there's a lot ofcontradictions, walking
contradictions inside of theAmerican and Western psyche
right now.
We are generally Christiansociety, but not all Christians,
just like not all Jews, not allMuslims, are the exact same
thing.
Right, there's manydenominations of all of these
(17:34):
faiths.
Many points of difference existbetween how do we read, what
philosophical setting do we havein our minds as we read various
texts.
Various texts in the Quran andthe Torah, in the Bible, new
Testament, have metaphoricallanguage to them.
Jesus spoke in metaphor.
There's a poetry to a lot ofthis.
(17:57):
Now certain groups, certainphilosophical matrices, will say
this is how one should readthis chapter or this chapter or
this, or one should be moreliteralist or one should be
whatever.
In the case of the Americanpeople, there's not one size
(18:19):
fits all, but there's a generaltendency to read the Bible in
such a manner that presumes andyou could listen to John Hagee
or Benny Hinn or a lot of thepopular televangelists on Vision
TV or other things that havebeen really, really promoted and
get millions and millions andmillions of views Many of these
people obviously tend to veertowards a more conservative
(18:43):
stance.
Obviously, the particularinterpretation tends to lend
itself towards a new, somethingnew that emerged in the 19th
century called raptureeschatology, and this is a big
one that came out of theAnglican church originally, so
(19:03):
the Anglicans, which presumethat the sitting monarch is the
head of the church.
Originally, it was King HenryVIII who wanted a divorce, so he
made his own church so that hecould have sex with Anne Boleyn
and divorce Catherine of Aragon.
He was convinced by a cabalist,black magician from Venice
called Francesco Zorzi, from ahigh-level Venetian family, who
(19:25):
became a bit of a counselor toHenry VIII in the 1820s, 1830s
sorry, 1520s, 1530s who saidlook, the only solution is
create your own church.
And it's like that wasn't theonly solution.
First of all, there have beenmany kings before that who
divorced their wives.
They're the king, you could dowhatever you want.
You're the king, you make therules.
(19:46):
But no, his solution that Zorzithe cabalist proposed from
Venice was make your own church,splinter it even further after
the splintering had alreadybegun and religious wars had
already started.
He's like do it again.
The same year 1534, that ThomasMoore is getting his head shot
off because Thomas Moore isagainst it, the prime minister
of England and the same yearthat the Jesuits are also being
(20:10):
created, has a, an operationfrom venice, and, for those who
don't know, webster tarplay didamazing work.
Research, that's the goldstandard I see on the, the
venetian role in creating thejesuit.
Back this period, where I'm nota slow, yola was a, a
traumatized mercenary who wentthrough a spiritual crisis, was
(20:33):
trying to go for a pilgrimage,to raise money to go to the holy
land, to go to jesus, and hefound himself in venice and
saint marc square, in a, and avenetian oligarch woke up, as,
as the story is told, from avision, with an angel who came
to him in his bedroom saying howcould you be sleeping in this
comfort of luxury when you havea holy man, the holiest of men,
outside in the rain?
And he went outside and foundignatious loyalists, smelly and
(20:54):
dirty, and he brought him in andcleaned him up and took him to
the doge, the highest sort oflike the king of venice, and
took him to the doge, and thedoge was so moved by loyalist
story that he paid for hispilgrimage to the holy land and
gave him the money and theresources and eventually he used
that to, to to found a new sectof christian mercenaries with a
a right of initiation.
(21:15):
Secret hierarchy inside.
That would pretty all of us.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
So we're seeing for hundreds of years how these
oligarchs and and these powerfulplayers in the global stage had
been mixing religion andgovernment and the ideology
together for their own means ofaccumulating more power yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
So I'm saying that to get people to appreciate how
many of the, the religiousmovements that we take for
granted, don't emergeorganically, but many of them
have emerged through theinfluence of intelligence,
political intelligence,operations that are highly tied
to the, to the occult, thatutilize often things like uh,
cabalistic methods ofself-brainwashing, which is what
(21:58):
zorzi was a master of.
That's a big part of therenovation of free masonry and
rosa crucianism that that isalways he put into motion as he
created the basis of rosacrucianism that grew into the
hellfire club, the united grandlodge of british masonry, which
is sort of the master lodge thatruns the scottish right in
america, which is sort of the,the right that was created by
(22:21):
albert pike, the creator of thekkk, the, the right that jayard
grohoover was a devoted 33rddegree member of throughout his
entire life.
The fbi is a generally a freemasonic scottish right group but
it's it's a sister lodge or ajunior lodge to the broader uh
united grand lodge in uh inlondon and this came out of the
(22:45):
zorzi cabalistic line.
This is also so.
I'm saying this to get acrossthat you had both the jesuit
creation in that same year thatthe, the anglican church was
created with the right aroundthe same venetian operation to
split, splinter and to createthese controlled opposition
groups.
It's all about controllingcreating dual opposition groups,
right that that will.
That will force a polarizationand get people to fight over
(23:08):
something that will underminetheir actual interests, kind of
like.
Let's take a moment back here,jump to the present.
Why did israel create hamaswith the american intelligence
back in 1987 with the firstintifada?
When hamas exists for thepurpose of exterminating israel,
it's one.
It makes you wonder.
Why did israeli intelligence aschaz freeman, the former us
ambassador to saudi arabia, hepointed out very eloquently it
(23:32):
was, and he's not alone, it wasisraeli and american
intelligence that created hamas,which is anti.
So that's a paradox.
Why would they do that?
Well, similarly, why didbritish intelligence with the
israelis, uh, create and trainthe palestinian authority, which
is in the west bank, that's,the dominant political structure
of the west bank, and this isthe.
(23:54):
There's the electronic intifadathat released a number of
internal documents proving thatthat's the case, that the adam
smith institute, which is acontractor for mi6, has been
training pia palestinianauthority officials to go in and
clamp down on resistancefighters within palestine who
would be um, so that this is agenerally pro-american,
(24:14):
pro-israel faction.
Why did this happen?
Well, you created this todestroy, as ron paul made the
point, to destroy the, theconstructive thinking of yasser
arifat, who was the head of thepalestinian liberation
organization and who wanted itwas a more secular approach to
trying to find constructivedialogue with the israelis,
(24:36):
which manifested in thediscussions that were happening
with the oslo accords, theeconomic development uh
discussions with yitzhakar binyosi, beilin uh, shimon pares
back in the 90s.
That's what arifat was doing.
That's what they wanted todestroy.
So create a more radicalized,religiously fanatic grouping of
hamas, create a more uhestablishment pro-israel
(24:57):
grouping of the palestinianauthority, get the, polarize it
and then get people and thenundermine the more reasonable
groupings.
In this case, it was arifatback then.
It was people like thomas more,erasmus, who were trying to
take a more principled approachto dealing with the, the
oligarchy back in the in the16th century, which was always
manipulating people in theshadows, and they had to kill um
(25:21):
thomas more for that.
And and if you look at like,where does a lot of the rapture
movement that really permeatedthe united states?
Where did it come from?
It came from um anglicanoperatives like john nelson
darby, who is a british um.
I think he was a Satanist,frankly I.
He created the, the PlymouthBrethren in the UK that gave
(25:44):
rise to Alistair Crowley.
He grew out of a PlymouthBrethren Church group.
It was built upon a sort ofmystery sect system In the in
the 1830s.
Well, right after he did that,he went toward the USA six times
before and during and after theCivil War, and Set up these
different branches across the USthat interpreted Thessalonians
(26:07):
Paul's letters to Thessaloniansfrom a very particular
standpoint, that Gave rise tothe current interpretation of
rapturism.
The Schofield Bible theSchofield Bible that was
published in 1908 by these sameAnglican groups in America,
pushing for an Anglo-Americandivine special relationship.
That's what the whole thing was.
(26:28):
It was like at the heart ofPentecostalism because that's
where this grew out of was thedrive by by people around
Schofield, the Darbyites, topromote this concept that God
wills that the, the Americansand the British unite in a
divine mission Right rightsounds like the Americans in the
(26:49):
Israelis uniting in a divinemission, which is a similar
narrative that's being put outthere by these televangelists,
and to me it's a bit hokey.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
You know, to have the Israeli flag and to have these,
these, these charlatans, youknow just beating the pulpits
with these types of warmongeringtype of statements and trying
to rationalize it biblically,and it's become very mainstream.
And I compared a lot to theanti-russian type of
(27:21):
brainwashing that we've had,because you know, to get the
whole United States populationagainst Russia, the USSR during
the Cold War involved a lot ofpropaganda, you know talking
about every James Bond movie hada Russian villain, right, yeah,
so you have a whole generation,multiple generations, of
(27:43):
Americans who don't like Russia,don't trust Russia or anything
that's Russian.
And so, of course, now thatwe've got a modern Russia that's
different from the past, thatthat it's still the boogeyman
for the Democratic Party, thatthe scapegoat for everything,
and now all the Americans areseeing Russia through that lens
(28:05):
rather than through more of arealistic and time relevant lens
.
And now it's a similar thingwith with Israel that I'm seeing
with a lot of people of thesame Generation, the baby boomer
generation, which is a very bigpopulation group, very powerful
because they have the money andthey have the positions of
(28:26):
power, and Yet they've grown upwith the same type of
programming that Israel is thevictim.
It's a biblical destiny forAmerica to aid Israel.
That anyone who's Arab you know,on a different side that's is a
terrorist.
They use this word terrorist tolump anyone who's against
(28:48):
Israel, whatever, and so thewhole 9-11, cyop was basically
also to get Americans to thinkthat anyone who wears a turban,
anyone who wears a, a cloth,headdress, anyone who's Muslim,
is a terrorist, you know.
(29:10):
And so it's very difficult forI think, for the older
generation it's interestingbecause a lot of the younger
generation is actually antiIsrael.
So so you get like the AOC andthe squad is anti Israel, and
then the, the older generation,is pro Israel.
But.
But like we've said in the past, this type of tribalism and
(29:30):
this type of like a veryPolarizing and pro-war type of
stance is very unhealthy.
So anything else you want tosay about this, this idea of
this being very Religiouslyideological, it's a holy war for
the holy land, and how thatcould play out.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
Yeah, I mean some people might accuse me of being
maybe a little repetitive orsomething, but I think it's
important to be just reminded,to be self-aware of the subtle
spells, hypnotic spells that aretransgenerational, that shape
the matrix in which we were born.
We have to because if you wantto Deal with the reality of
(30:12):
living in an oligarchallyinfluenced world, which all of
humanity has always beeninfluenced by, a high priesthood
of oligarchs representing oldfamilies, that's not taught in
our popular textbooks, right?
That's not generally.
That's not generally acceptableopinions, but it's fact, it's
still true, and the foundingfathers understood this much
better than our currentgeneration of Canadians and
Americans understand this.
(30:32):
That's how they were able tonavigate through the minefield
of British intelligence, whichwas not less sophisticated back
then, and that it is today.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
It's just that we actually have almost an oligarch
worship in American culture,where the Rockefellers and the
Kennedys and these powerfuldynasties and families are
revered, and now we've got thesetech Tech oligarchs who are
like the kind of beacons of thisis what?
If you work hard and you dropout of college and you pursue
(30:59):
your idea, then someday youcould be like Mark Zuckerberg,
steve Jobs, bill Gates, jeffBezos.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
Yeah, right, yeah, and if you have a High-level
family member in the militaryindustrial complex committed to
depopulation, you might getlucky and be a cardboard cutout
selected to To sell some sort ofa product.
That's that's gonna brainwashpeople.
Yeah, no, I know they've createdthis mystique, this, it's
really a Propaganda operationwhere we've been led to believe
(31:30):
that these are all just these,these unique, brilliant people
that came out of their garagesand we forget the fact that no,
these are cardboard cutouts,selected and used and ultimately
disposable, ultimate, at theend of the day, to advance
things that normally peoplewould be unwilling to accept.
Like you know, ibm Systems intheir home as computer operating
(31:53):
systems, which is why Microsofthad to be created in the first
place, because IBM was still tooAssociated with the Nazis back
in the 70s, when people stillhad a bit more understanding of
their history.
They're like no, I won't rest.
I don't necessarily want totrust IBM to be in every home.
You know, surveilling me.
So, all that to say, it's goodto be sort of, to take a step
(32:14):
back and see how we over we havean unhealthy relationship with
this elite idea.
Now, in the case of what wewere talking about, with the,
the tendency, the ironicaltendency of many conservative
Christians to support Israel.
It regardless of what type ofinjustice is done by.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
There doesn't seem to be any type of boundary,
doesn't matter what the state ofIsrael, what kind of inhumane.
No thing they would do, anytype of atrocity, there's
literally nothing they could do.
Yeah would cause a, anideological American Christian,
to say you know what?
At this point I'm not gonnaside with this, yeah, state of
(32:58):
Israel.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
I'm not so comfortable with this.
Yeah, well, part of this andyou got to listen to I listen
sometimes to John Hage Was thesegiant football stadiums full of
people you know listening tohis sermons and you know you
recently had Ted Cruz Cruz onthe stage with him and they were
(33:20):
effectively calling for warwith Iran, as he was doing back
in the 90s.
The, the great axis of Eagleevil that would, you know,
manifest.
Finally, the prophecies from2000 years ago of the battle of
of Megiddo finally taking placeand Gog and Magog and Russia is
the, is the Gog and and andfinally it's here.
You know Now, the Darbyiteskeep in mind we're also talking
(33:41):
about this back when Russia wasalso targeted for destruction
back at the 1850s with theCrimean War, that that was how
they were interpreting the endtimes before the US Civil War.
You know, megiddo, the Bible,megiddo was was interpreted.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
Isn't that convenient ?
The the way war propagandistsinterpret the Bible for their
plans.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
Yes, there, every time things go bad in society
and people go through economicscarcity, there's a financial
depression, under resurgence ofwars, there's always going,
there is always and always hasbeen, a massive spike of
Eschatological aka end timescults that always grow always.
(34:21):
It's always the case thatinterpret like now is the time,
now is the end time, in whateverTorah, quran, bible, language
or books that I'm using thattalk about and end times, now,
that now is the moment.
Because you know it's a bit ofan arrogant thing in my mind,
but that's, that's what JohnHagee really exemplifies.
And so there's a a bit of anironic Antisemitism that John
(34:47):
Hagee would not admit to havinghad.
Because what are they?
What are these People whopromoted Dick Cheney and the
rise of the neocons and theunquestioning support of the war
on terror?
You know you're with us or withterrorists?
Yeah, of course we're againstterrorists.
Let's, let's support, you know,bombing the hell out of the,
the countries that had nothingto do with 9-11, that whole
grouping.
They actually kind of want tosee Armageddon.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
They kind of want that nuclear war to happen, they
don't row seats for their theirbig you know.
Yeah, so they have in theirmind exactly.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
It's a movie and and so Part of it is they.
They want things that willresult in the mass extermination
of Jews.
They've got a view that theJews now, because we're going to
usher in the apocalypse of Johnand and the book of Daniel will
manifest at all.
Now the Christ, now Christ willcome back with if we do that,
(35:41):
and at which point all of thedead Jews will now become
Christian and In in, you knowthe in paradise.
That's insane, I'm sorry.
In my view, that's.
That is nuts.
It's sad yeah sad, becauseyou're basically saying that
we're gonna exterminate all thepeople.
And keep in mind too, thereason why the Jews were all,
(36:04):
the reason why they wereconvinced to all go to this very
volatile region in the desertin the first place, was because
you had a bunch of pro-fascistAnti-Semites like Lord Balfour,
like Lloyd George, like LordMilner, who despised the Jews,
like Darby actually was ananti-Semite, but they all Wanted
to.
Lord Shaftisbury, the BritishAnglican, who was the first sort
(36:27):
of Zionist, who founded modernZionism in the 1830s with Darby
who proselytized, sent outmissionaries into Eastern Europe
and into Russia to try toconvince the Jews that they want
to leave Europe, can go to thethe desert.
That that guy.
They're all anti-semites.
They wanted a world purged ofJews, but yet they devoted so
much of their time and energy tocreating a movement For a
(36:49):
homeland.
They did purge the Jews fromEurope.
They did.
They did a great job.
They did more than Hitler couldhave dreams that and that's
actually there's.
That's a whole sideconversation.
But and and so these samegroupings are also promoting
Through, the same occult groupslike that are working through
the Akrona.
Like I mentioned, zeregeiZubatov, who is the head of the
(37:10):
Ocarina, radical anti-semite inRussia.
That's the Russian secretpolice.
He's also promoting theprotocols of Zion.
Right, the, the forge documentsthat are just retooled,
documents that took languagefrom a Satire essay from 30
years earlier.
Um called a discourse betweenMachiavelli and Montesquieu, and
(37:32):
then you could see that this,this original document from the
From the 1860s, that they justtook the same language, retooled
it to make it a Jewish cabalinstead of another kind of cabal
.
And then they they put this outthere into the Russian courts
to convince the czar Nicholasthe second To purge all of his
advisors who were working withthe American system school of
(37:53):
Abraham Lincoln, charlesSumner's, william Seward,
william Gilpin, all theseAmerican Grand strategists who
had understood the nature of theBritish global intrigue system
we're working with patriots inRussia and who had to be blamed
or labeled as Jewish Puppetstrying to destroy Russia.
And look, we got the protocolsto prove it.
(38:14):
So Zubatov, who's ananti-semite, promoting the
protocols of Zion, destroyingthe, the pro development, pro
industrial movement in Russia,right, that gets that works.
The Stupid czar Nicholas thesecond actually does fire these
people.
Like Sergei Vita, who's at apro-American Finance minister,
he's fired now all of a sudden.
He has no good advisors, hestarts misstepping left and
(38:37):
right, doubling down on thingsthat lead into the Bolshevik
Revolution, which is anothertrap set for Russia to destroy
them by by Clamping down on onJews, creating Jewish pogroms,
forcing Jews into little ghettosin Russia that they're not
allowed to leave, having riotersgo into Jewish neighborhoods,
killing Jews in the 1890sbecause the protocols are now
(38:58):
like you know the proof.
And and then Zubatov is alsoworking with Jabotinsky.
Jabotinsky is the, the leadingpolitical Zionist, very violent
figure, working with Rabbi Cookto bring all of the Jews into
into Zion, into Jerusalem, andCarry out jihad against those
who are already living there.
(39:19):
And there's massive atrocitiesby Jabotinsky's mercenaries,
supported by the British.
And Then, inversely, theBritish are also supporting
radical factions of Islamicsects around the Salafiists, who
are being supported and thisbecomes the Muslim Brotherhood,
who then carry out these eye foran eye Conflicts resulting in
these forever hostilities.
(39:40):
But the that's what the currentChristians who are supporting
this whole holy war end times,rapture theology.
They're ultimately promotingthe mass murder and
extermination of the Jews thatthey say they love so much and
themselves.
Frankly, because when yourelease that type of conflict,
(40:01):
we don't know what's gonnahappen if you, israel has
something like at least 300nuclear weapons, possibly a lot
more.
Right is the is the US.
Lindsey Graham is saying thatwe need to strike Iran now.
If Iran comes in, if you startstriking Iran, and Israel's
already Attacking Syria.
They're already attackingLebanon.
You know you got strikes fromfrom Hama, from Hezbollah, into
northern Gaza as well, into intoIsrael Not Gaza story into
(40:26):
Israel.
You got a ground invasion, butIsrael's attacking all of these
other Arab states around them.
You got, you know, theseneocons frothing at the mouth
saying now's our time To strikeIran.
Iran is sitting there.
They've been very, verywithholding and keeping
themselves, despite the amountsof hundreds of their leaders and
scientists getting assassinatedby Anglo-American and British
intelligence over the past 20years.
They have withheld quite a bit.
(40:47):
It's incredible how muchwithholding they've done.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
It is kind of interesting because I remember
Decade, two decades ago, youknow, the comments of wiping
Israel off the map were justrepeated on, you know, cnn a
million times to try to take,get it into Americans minds is
that Iran wants to destroyIsrael and that that's the only
way that they they view Israelis is by, you know, wiping it
(41:15):
off the map.
And yet we haven't heard a peep, you know, out of Iran.
You know, at least I haven'tlooked into it and it hasn't
been published in the USAMainstream media as far as I
know.
So that that is interesting.
And maybe they're holding their, their cards close right now to
see how things play out.
And, you know, seems likeRussia and China and some of the
(41:40):
major countries who are callingfor the ceasefire Are trying to
be diplomatic, right, I mean,this is, this is like the
Ukraine conflict, where it seemslike there there is a
contingent of the majority ofthe countries of the world want
peace, want diplomacy, and yetit is that NATO cage as you you
(42:02):
called it, the USA and itsproxies, yeah, and you've talked
about in the past, you'vetalked about the Anglo roots of
power and how the, the BritishIntelligence and the British
power structures use the USA asa dumb giant, that the military
power to achieve its means.
Hmm, and some, some people wouldeven interpret that and maybe,
(42:27):
maybe this is very closelyconnected.
The Israel Uses the UnitedStates as its dumb giant.
You know that you have theIsrael lobby right that donates
a lot to American politicians.
Then they maybe feel like theyown those politicians, oh yeah,
and then those politicians voteto send huge aid packages.
(42:48):
Billy, we're talking billionsof dollars.
I mean, does America give asmuch money to any other country
in the world?
Oh, no, so so then who worksfor who?
Who's really more powerful?
Master or the puppet.
So so that's a great question.
Is there a connection herebetween the Anglo controllers
and the Israeli controllers?
Speaker 1 (43:09):
Yeah, yeah, it's a way of getting to two idiots to
Serve a higher power thatultimately wants to destroy both
idiots.
So what they did, if you lookat, we already went through in
previous shows the Britishcreation of Israel.
Right, we already.
We already went through that.
People can watch our previousepisodes if they want to.
(43:29):
So the British created Israelout of British Mandate Palestine
.
They're the ones who createdthe whole movement to begin with
, with the help of their pilgrimsociety, anglo-american
collaborators in the fifthcolumn operations within the
United States that took overcontrol of foreign policy over
the dead body of WilliamMcKinley, murdered in 1901, and
(43:52):
continued to grow.
They created the, the councilon foreign relation right is the
American branch of the BritishRoundtable Woman created by or
steered by Lord Milner, who isalso the co-writer of the
Belfort courts.
So you had this whole Takeoverthat is increasingly happening
over the dead bodies of manypresidents willy, warren,
harding, franklin Roosevelt.
Many of Roosevelt's allies arepurged, many are killed who are
(44:14):
very high-level people theformer district, or the man who
is going to become districtattorney and fire Hoover, friend
of Roosevelt, is killed in 1932.
Many, many, many a JFK right.
So what's happening?
You have, once Israel iscreated a day later, british.
The British give up theirmandate on Palestine.
Now it's Israel.
Part of it involves thecreation of Israel and the UN
(44:36):
security.
The UN resolution that createsIsrael also demands the creation
of Palestine.
Only half of that, that rule isfollowed.
Israel, not Palestine.
Palestine's never, never,allowed to see the table.
They're never recognized as anation as Israel is.
So that's illegal, but they doit anyway.
So then you have the Mossad iscreated after Shin Bet, which is
Israeli intelligence.
That's a convergence of avariety the the Haganah party
(44:59):
and other the Haganah movement.
Other things are convergent toan Israeli intelligence
operation With Shin Bet, the IDL.
But then you have in 1950,mossad.
Mossad is created by the CIA.
But the CIA was created afterthe purge of the OSS, you're
right.
So the OSS is purged in 1946,september.
Now, that's what.
What has Sorry?
1945, september by Truman.
(45:19):
This is where you have badpeople in the OSS, but you have
a lot of good people in the OSS,a lot of people who really
understand British imperial WallStreet Grant strategy for
fascism.
They get it, their purge.
The only the evil ones, likeAlan Dellister, kept, takes two
years to reorganize the Britishhelp under the new
Anglo-American Specialrelationship that Churchill
announces the same day, theycreate the five eyes.
(45:41):
Or what becomes the five eyes?
The US, you, uk, usa SignalsAgreement in 1946, may, may 6,
same day as the Iron Curtainspeech, same day as the
Anglo-American specialrelationship.
It and and my six now is allover Washington.
The Rhodes scholars, theFabians who are there in the
wings in the State Department,now take Control under Truman.
They're working now to create anew intelligence apparatus
(46:04):
which Truman, the young proto,george Bush Jr, idiot overseas,
he supports.
Now it's created, it's calledthe CIA, but the CIA is not
American.
By and large it's a foreignagency in America with good
people sometimes in it, butoverall it's foreign directed.
This is then what is used, thisAnglo-American thing to create
Mossad.
The ADL grew out of the Ben Eyebreath.
The Ben Eye breath goes back tothe 1850s as the sort of Jewish
(46:27):
branch of the Metzene,palmerston, young Europe.
You know, young Turk, youngAlbania, young German, young
French, young America movements.
Albert Pike was the head of thesouthern branch of the young
America Freemasonic group.
This, this is the weaponizationof people for the sake of
Overthrowing governments.
You don't like to creategeopolitical effects that are
beneficial to the British Empire, which is itself operating
(46:49):
through these Masonic frontgroups.
That's what the Ben Eye breathcomes out of.
It's a freemasonic front groupwith a lot of freemason.
They will deny it, but it's.
It's demonstrable that this iswhat it was.
This is what gives birth to theADL.
A new breed of nominally Jewishnames are assigned roles of
being mercenaries Within thisestablished order.
(47:13):
You know, the Bronfman's arecreated to start setting up
organized crime.
Mayor Lansky comes out of theBronfman operation right as far
as like Jewish crime syndicatesthat are tied to Operations that
will involve money laundering,offshore accounts, other things
that organize as internationalcrime.
The British came in islands.
A lot of British territoriesare very useful to cultivate
(47:36):
this.
The system that involves theflow of narcotics trafficking,
other things that will be usefulin the age of the Cold War.
So during the Cold War they needand the CIA openly is working
with look lucky Luciana with themafia.
It's a big part of how they'reable to control much of South
America.
The Cuba, other things, right,that's Marilanski's play
(47:56):
playground.
Is Cuba before Castro, the.
They're working closely withthe United Fruit Company, which
is a CIA front group thatoversees the overthrowing of
various governments that are alittle bit too for the people
across Latin America andinstalls right wing and when I
say right wing I'm talking Nazi,I'm not talking typical
conservative talking to Naziregimes in South America running
(48:18):
death squads, advised usuallyby unreconstructed Nazis, which
were also hired by the CIA Rightand given new jobs, new
assignments.
Speaker 2 (48:28):
So this is a good time to point out here there is
no ethnic Basis really of thisdeep state that you're
describing.
You just described Britishallied with German, nazis allied
with Israelis, you know.
So it's not like One unifiedethnic or religious group.
(48:52):
The only thing that maybeunifies them is that that thirst
for power.
And then the long game I thinkyou were hinting at this before
Is that the Anglos Would happilyBring down Israel in the United
States in the endgame.
(49:12):
Right to that, they destroyeach other, they, they get
destroyed in a world war, andthen what's left is this kind of
the playbook of the globalistto be able to make an
international order.
Speaker 1 (49:27):
Yeah, they want an oligarchic collectivism with a
highly reduced traumatizedpopulation which will be Willing
to accept after a sustainedamount of trauma and we're
talking trauma Like you can'teven imagine, like dark-aged
trauma, nuclear war trauma, liketrauma so seeing your friends
and family starving, dying onthe streets that type of trauma
for a sustained period, kind oflike what was done in the in the
(49:48):
Great Depression.
If people it's hard to imaginethe type of of pain suffered,
then people become moresusceptible to superstition,
more desperate, more inclined tobecome fanatical and more
accepting of a new narrative,which is also part of the great
reset, great narrative projectthat claus Schwab unveiled a
year and a half ago that youknow.
(50:08):
We need now new post-Christiannarratives that are gonna
replace the outdated, outdated,obsolete, old sacred stories
that animated us for 2,000 years, that are no longer applicable
to the transhumanist age youwill own nothing and be happy
guy a worship yeah like, how doyou normalize that?
How do you normalize eating bugs?
Like you've got to have likesome serious Religious sort of
(50:32):
justification to give you asense like that you're gonna be
a better person or somehow likethat, that this is what you'll
want to do and promote.
Yeah, so that this is and thisis again this brings in.
If people want to know, why dothe governments of the world all
of a sudden, or especially theUnited States, want us to think
about aliens all of a sudden?
Why is this all over our mediaand congressional hearings and
(50:53):
NASA inquiries and Air Forceinquiries and Pentagon inquiries
into, like aliens, ufo contactwith humans?
We there's very powerful forcesthat want us to think about
these things right now.
That's why they're preparingthe groundwork for something
that will be brought in as a newUFO Right order with well, you
you talked about trauma.
Speaker 2 (51:13):
So maybe, maybe that, maybe that's it that there's
gonna be a UFO related traumaand maybe a UFO related Savior
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Okay, matt, we've got fiveminutes left here, so let's
let's bring this To a conclusionabout what people can do,
because I think it's a veryimportant point to make a
(53:45):
conclusion about what people cando, because I think If people
are on Twitter and people arecivically engaged or engaged in
talking about politics, I thinkthey feel forced into a camp.
They have to be in the pro, proPalestine, pro Hamas camp or the
pro Israel camp here.
(54:06):
And and so is there another wayto, to engage with our fellow,
you know, let's say our fellowAmerican citizens or Canadian
citizens here, to talk aboutthis without the religiosity,
without the fervor, without theideal being an ideologue about
it?
Uh, and just talk about thefacts and figures.
(54:27):
What are some resources, whatare some mindsets or
perspectives you might suggest?
Speaker 1 (54:33):
Hmm, well, I think that what people need to do is
help develop means ofcommunicating in ways that help
People who are confused.
See paradoxes like what Imentioned here.
You know Hamas wants Israeldestroyed.
Right, that's part of theircharter.
They want no Israel.
They want Israel to be wipedoff the map.
Well then, why did Israelcreate them?
Right, that's a paradox.
Just let it sit right.
(54:53):
So, speaking that way Becausepeople tend to get into didactic
, literalistic languagesometimes, which is just going
to be polarizing you're nothelping the mind of the person
you're talking to See wherethere's a break with what they
think and reality.
So you want to help people seewhere is their differentiation
between what you believe in andreality.
Right, that's the paradox.
(55:13):
Um, so be.
The other thing I would say islook to points where there were
Reasonable prospects for peace,because that's what has to be
restored into the conversation.
Most Israelis living in Israelwant that.
They want peace with the Arabs.
That's what Trump's AbrahamAccords were all about.
That's what was really beingtargeted for.
Destruction Is the type ofconstructive Dynamic that would
(55:35):
is.
It was being birthed with theAbraham Accords of recognizing,
which was moving very fast, andit and China and Russia.
Were supporting thisorientation of recognizing
Israel by the Arab neighbors forthe first time.
It was moving fast.
Economic development was whatTrump had put into motion to
around building infrastructuretogether, to start healing
hostility.
That has to be restored.
(55:56):
That's what Yatsaker bin andthe air fat were doing in the
90s.
That's what has to be donetoday.
That's what China and Russiahave been doing by creating
stabilized regions all over theMiddle East.
That type of thing, that typeof thing, has to be recognized.
Speaker 2 (56:07):
Um so I'd builders versus the destroyers.
It's a very simple concept,isn't it?
You know?
If the people who want to buildtogether one economic
prosperity.
And you really put aside theideology when you start building
something, don't you?
You're using, uh, basicmathematics to, to, to build,
build a infrastructure project,and you're putting aside the
(56:29):
esoteric Stuff for a moment.
Yeah, you become that's reallyinteresting.
Speaker 1 (56:34):
You become future oriented.
You're not stuck by the.
The past no longer isdominating you.
All the past Transgressions.
It's the future that you'recreating that becomes what
defines you and your relationswith your neighbors.
Now, all of a sudden, so that'sthe.
It's the same thing for aMarriage that's in trouble or a
family or friendship that's introuble.
You got to become futureoriented.
Let go of the past, forgive anddo it by working together on
(56:54):
things that don't exist yet butthat are needed, so that that
always works, and that's whatoligarchy has always tried to
destroy.
Um, there's a lot of resources.
Maybe I'll send you a few andwe could put them in the
description box into this videofor people to click on.
And, uh, yeah, the, the ufovideo that, uh, my wife and I
have been producing will bereleased tonight.
So go to canadianpatriotorg forepisode one.
It's going to be eight episodes.
(57:15):
First episode We'll go backinto babelonian days and set the
stage with some deep history.
So that'll be tonight,canadianpatriotorg.
Speaker 2 (57:24):
That is so important as we're anticipating some type
of sci-op.
I mean, it's already unfoldingBefore us so people can
deprogram themselves and theirfriends and family.
Go to canadianpatriot Revieworgand watch that first episode
tonight.
Go to shon morgan reportcom.
Get my breaking news updatesand we'll see you next breaking
history next week.
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