December 3, 2023 • 30 mins
In this episode of SMR, Sean Morgan interviews Matt Ehret about his new documentary series that tracks why the deep state invests in the UFO psychological operation.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Next, on the Sean Morgan Report, matthew Eratt
explains why the UFO phenomenonis a deep state sigh up, and
we're going to question themainstream narrative and expose
media propaganda right now.
That's a great question.
That's a good question.
That's a great question.
That's a great question.
Well, that's a really goodquestion.
It's a great question.
Well, matthew Eratt is theeditor of the Canadian Patriot
(00:33):
Review.
Thanks for joining us, matt.
Tell us about your new projectabout UFOs.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Oh, it's a great pleasure, sean.
Yeah, the new project is ajoint project that I've begun
with my wife, cynthia Chung, anda wonderful filmmaker named
Jason Dahl, who we've beenworking with now for over a year
, turning some of our writingsand research into multimedia
productions of a very highquality.
So originally the hidden handbehind UFOs was intended to be
(01:03):
one single video, maybe twohours long.
No, first it was going to be 30minutes, dealing with some of
the the psyops that are underappreciated I found in the
alternative media world,regarding some disturbing facts
one could say of, for example,the role of Lawrence Rockefeller
, his operation in rooming notonly MK, ultra psychedelic drugs
(01:29):
, tabistock operations, like theEsselin Institute that promoted
and advanced silo, cyveins, dmt, but also the disclosure
project, which also involvedbringing in Bill Clinton,
hillary, john Podesta and othersto become advocates of
government disclosure of UFOsback in the 1990s, and certain
(01:50):
other very high leveloligarchical forces that are
intending very much that thepopulation of the world today,
especially Americans, obsessover, not stopping World War III
or the depopulation agenda orthe world government agenda of
the great reset, but rather UFOs, which are getting a lot of
(02:11):
publicity in that Pentagon iscarrying out UFO investigations
into government relations withaliens, and we're getting this
on CNN, all the mainstream media, the Congress is featuring
hearings on this.
So there's a lot of messagingobviously intended to get us to
think about this, and wheneverthe oligarchy wants us to think
(02:33):
about something, a lot, weshould always be extra critical
about what is what's the realagenda.
So we tackle this.
We decided to do this as aseries now because the first,
the 30 minute, and then the planto expand that to two hours, as
one standalone video was notadequate, so we decided to make
it a series of videos going for30 to 40 minutes each episode.
(02:53):
The first one is now out,called the Lifting the Esoteric
Veil, taking a bit of a broadstep back into looking at, well,
what is the environment thatshaped the 20th century, going
back to the ancient times andthe mystery religions of the
Roman Empire, babylon and beforethat that are connected to the
current Psyop.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
That's great.
So the first episode is out.
People can check that out atCanadianPatriotorg.
It's interesting to use theword obsess, because the deep
state is trying to get people'sattention on this and that means
that their attention can't beon something else, such as
discovering the deep state, likeyou said.
So could this also be relatedto some type of worship or some
(03:35):
type of fear based mind control?
Because it seems like the twonarratives that's always there
is either aliens are evil andthey're going to get us and just
beware of the ominous disc inthe sky, or it's the aliens
actually created us and seededus here and there is no God.
So can you see, tell me howreligion plays a role here?
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Yeah, I mean in my assessments and your rights.
There's a variety of narratives.
Not all alien narratives arethe same.
There's a bunch that areGroomed and created to fit
certain profiles within thezeitgeist, you know, and you
have the shape-shifting,nefarious, lizard Meta narrative
that's been, you know, promotedout there since the 90s,
(04:20):
especially by David Ike, of theone variation of the nefarious
alien thing that they're tryingto create, global warming to
Prepare the world for theinvasion and takeover by these,
these lizard people that feed onour fear energy.
So, in that sense,therapeutically, we should just
look to really feel good and putup good vibes and then we'll
(04:40):
defeat the, the lizard peoplefrom another dimension.
So, yeah, but like variationslike that, then you have, like
the benevolent aliens.
Are they from our dimension?
Maybe they're from anotherdimension, maybe there's a bit
of both, and you know there's alot of reliance upon reliance
upon Quantum, quantum mechanicsand mathematical probability
theory.
(05:01):
That justifies the assumptionthat there are these multiple
Dimensions that are part of theconcoction of big bang theory
and big bang cosmology is thenecessity to postulate that
there's these infinite othermultiverses, other dimensions
that are then used to then buyand this is really gone heavily
since the the early 70s bypeople like J Allen Heineck, his
(05:24):
, his student, jacques Valet,who's a big player within this
operation.
Harold Poutoff is another one.
They all worked with the, theEsalen Institute funded by
Lawrence Rockfeller, andespecially what's not known as
the Stargate project of theStanford Research Institute of
the 1970s that was Working onparapsychology, talking to
(05:45):
ghosts, mediums, aliens.
A lot of psychedelic drugs werepart of that operation to
figure out how do you create anew type of Human being.
Basically, it was part, it wasa sub branch of MK ultra, and so
the idea of Jacques Valet iswell, these aliens come from
other dimensions, not from ours,our dimension, and so, within
his works, endorsed by, again,poutoff, valet and her big part
(06:09):
of the currents, I think thedominant drive to unveil the
holograms in the sky that willbe the aliens and a lot of the
messaging is is that these areactually the have been here for
ancient times and again, somepeople think of them as
benevolence, most, most of themthink of them as in a negative
way, but either way it's.
It's different flavors of thesame garbage, which is that the,
(06:30):
the elves, the stories ofdemons, of angels, of, of
Ferries in different cultures,were actually aliens this whole
time and people didn't know whatthey were, they were dealing
with, and so they call themangels or demons or fairies or
elves.
And you know, there's a wholeattempt to recast what is
(06:51):
Christianity around this drugalien mythos that Christ either
was an alien, was gettinginformation or powers from
aliens to walk on water, the,the pharaohs, were actually
getting, you know, their, theirtechnology from aliens.
That, and there's variations onthe theme.
Sometimes the aliens arepartially living underground and
we call them the Elohim or theNephilim, right, the reference
(07:13):
Princess to the body in variousAngels that work with Lucifer,
or they're in in the heavens orbit of both.
So there's a whole bunch ofschemes, but the idea is to to
basically cancel Abrahamicreligions and the entire idea of
man made in the image of aliving, loving creator that gave
rise to the American Revolution, everything good in human
(07:34):
civilization or merged with thisidea of the sacredness of life
and human beings made in theimage of a living, loving
creator, mandated to do good ina bed, abide by natural law.
They want to replace all ofthat and restore what they call
the age of Aquarius, becausethey say all of that is the age
of Pisces, the age of Reason, ofJesus, of Socrates.
That has to be canceled, and wewe can't just do it directly.
(07:56):
So what we'll do is we'llrecast the stories and reframe
them around the idea that no, infact it's been aliens the whole
time, that are have been ourgods and that's what we should
be worshipping or afraid of, ora bit of both.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
You know, as I've done interviews with you
recently, there's a recurringtheme that you point out how
preposterous a lot of the thesemajor narratives are, like
Climate change and globalwarming and all that stuff that
a lot of people are already hipto, that being a hoax, but many
(08:32):
other narratives that that wejust kind of take with a grain
of salt.
Now that may just be pseudoscience, you know, and when you,
when you clarified this wholereptilian narrative, it was
surprising to me, one, howpreposterous it is and two, how
detailed and cohesive it is.
(08:52):
That that everyone's because ofDavid Ike, because of these
various influencers.
They're very familiar with thisidea of this narrative, and not
to mention Hollywood and a manyof these, these Influencers on
the internet, borrow from theseHollywood stories and say well,
you know what, what thereptilians look like.
Well, they look like thereptilians or the aliens on the
movie the fifth element, and Isaw a reptilian and I drew a
(09:15):
picture of it and it looks likethis movie.
And so these movies and theseinfluencers Help shape how we
even think about what aliens are, where they come from, their
nature and what they look like.
And you've pointed out how manyof these deep state operatives
are funded to push thesenarratives and you mentioned
Rockefeller and you've mentionedSome of the newer influencers
(09:40):
you know like, like thedisclosure project.
You mentioned Delonge fromblink 182 and their stars into
the stars Academy.
Can you, can you elaborate onthat?
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Oh, yeah, sure, I mean, it's useful just to hold
on to some of these weirdanomalies and the fact that Tom
DeLonge, who's largely asuperficial character I mean,
when you listen to him speak,there's not much that's there,
but he's a bit of a joke and thething about him is he doesn't
realize that he's a joke, andthat's why he's useful as a
cardboard cutout, because theyalways need a frontman to
(10:17):
attribute something as aninstitutional political
operation too.
They can't just say, hey, thisis the CIA, just came up with
this operation to organize andofficially fund alien motifs in
preparation for the greatdisclosure of UFOs that is being
prepared by the benevolent deepstate that cares about the
(10:39):
truth so much that it has toprepare us, and Tom DeLonge's To
the Stars Academy was selectedto be one of those conduits that
would pour money into comicbooks and films and movies and
stories and other things thatshape the culture around aliens
and paranormal activity, and ofcourse, they're always trying to
bridge the two.
The co-founder of it, though,is, I think, more close to a
(11:01):
causal nexus, in the form ofHarold Putoff, who I again I'd
mentioned earlier was a seventhdegree OT Scientologist follower
of Elron Hubbard, who himselfwas a follower of Alistair
Crowley who believed he wascarrying on Crowley's mission
after Crowley died.
Both of them were members ofthe leading figures within the
Ordo Templi Orientus, the OTO,the California branch doing sex,
(11:25):
magic rituals and other satanicthings in the deserts, and that
you know.
So, the Scientology's alienscults largely, I think, actually
affects the thinking even ofpeople like Joseph Campbell who
advised, who was largely theinspiration for George Lucas
(11:48):
when he created the settingaround which the Star Wars story
would take place.
You know, and Scientology hasgalactic federations existing
billions of years ago, with adark-sit lord who you know had
allies that were deployed, weresent over to the earth at some
primitive time that got suckedinto I mean, it gets a little
(12:09):
lasaini into volcanoes andsomehow, how ironic is it that
Elron Hubbard was a sci-fiwriter, right?
Speaker 1 (12:16):
So he writes fiction and then he also runs a mind
control religion and they fittogether quite nicely.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Yeah, they really do.
And he follows people likeGeorge Adamski, who still had,
who created sort of the firsttheosophist affiliated, occult,
alien secret set or alienreligion, a year before Hubbard
did it.
And Hubbard, by the way, calledhimself the Antichrist in an
interview directly and his soncalled him.
His son gave an interview toPenthouse Magazine in 1983
(12:43):
saying that my father practicedritual black magic in the house
all the time.
That was our religion.
He believed he was Satan, justlike Crowley did earlier and
Parsons did too.
So all that to say, this is whatHal Putoff is immersed within
with Jacques Valais, and JacquesValais is also, you know,
working together, as I mentioned, befriending Antoine Leve,
working with Michael Aquino,who's operating the first Earth
(13:08):
Battalion and the Jedi, the Jedibattalions that take over Fort
Bragg, that create this, thepsychological warfare operations
, groups that drive theRevolution and military affairs
in the early 80s around.
This stuff that came in fromEsalen, overseen by Aquino.
Aquino, by the way, is the headof the temple of set, the
(13:28):
second command of Leve.
So you have a high convergenceof Satanists and these, these
figures within the pseudoscientific communities at Esalen
, the New Age, who are workingwith drugs.
They're all working to createnew, new sacred stories that
will then shape the, the greatnarrative, which is also, by the
way, a Davos organized projectcalled the great narrative.
(13:52):
We need new sacred stories thatwill replace the outdated ones,
like Christianity.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
So right, sorry, I want to hop in here real quick
about pop culture now and howthat relates to this.
With Joe Rogan's, the mostpopular podcast in the world and
he pushes this psychedelic typeof religion.
And you've mentioned anotherperson from from Ted Talks who's
constantly talking aboutpsychedelics and they're pushing
(14:21):
this idea that if you want tohave a sacred experience, you
don't go to church, you don'tpray, you don't fast, you don't
do any of the stuff that we'vedone for thousands of years.
To have a sacred experience ordo compassionate charity or
something like that.
You have to go to the Amazonrainforest and take ayahuasca
and then finally you will have asacred experience.
Haven't you noticed over thepast 10 years that kind of story
(14:47):
being pushed?
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Yeah, well, I think Timothy Leary in his
autobiography described let thecattle of the bag when he said
he described an interaction hehad with Aldous Huxley, who was
the founder, who was Huxleystudents, who were founding the
Estlin Institute.
And Timothy Leary describesthis discussion where he says
that Aldous told him that thetrue enemy ultimately, timothy,
(15:12):
that we have to destroy isJudeo-Christian civilization and
it's time for a new scientificpaganism to be reborn.
And when you look at peoplethat they were working with and
Leary was popularizing everysort of mind-altering drug that
was produced by MK-Alter and theCIA but they were working with
people like Gordon Wassoon.
Gordon Wassoon is somebodywho's been turned into a cult,
(15:35):
almost guru, by Rogan and others.
He was a vice president ofJPMorgan Bank who went down into
Mexico to Duayahuasca for thefirst time.
That was then publicized.
His articles and descriptionswere publicized by Henry Luce
from Time Magazine, who was anLSD-dropping pro-fascist to put
(15:57):
Hitler and Mussolini on Time'sman of the Year, working with
the deep state, with LawrenceRockefeller, to turn the USA
into an empire.
He actually was part of thecommission under Lawrence
Rockefeller and Nelson in 1956that was based on the USA in the
New World Order called theRockefeller Commission and Henry
.
So Gordon Wassoon is the secondin command of JPMorgan who
(16:19):
becomes the guru of the drugcult.
That then feeds into creating amecca experience for people
like Rogan and a wholegeneration of baby boomer
hippies who did their wholemecca with Duayahuasca starting
with the 60s, following his leadin Time Magazine.
So all of this fed into thework that was done in Harvard on
the silo-siding project thatLeary worked on as well.
(16:41):
That created the unabomber.
Ted Kaczynski came out of that.
Charles Manson also had like180 hours of Scientology
auditing and it wasn't reallyall through.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
So really nice guinea pigs came out of that
scientific project the unabomberand Charles Manson.
That just shows how harmfulthis type of experimentation on
humans is.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Oh yeah, absolutely.
And they're looking like AldousHuxley is looking in the Brave
New World.
It's a guidebook.
It's not like a warning, aspeople say.
It's a guidebook on how to dothis in a clean way, a clean
dictatorship without tears, ashe calls it, where people will
have chains but they will loveand die to defend the chains
that are on them in theconcentration camp of their
minds.
Based on soma, which is a Vedicterm that he took, based upon
(17:30):
some mystery drug that ended upbecoming LSD and DMT to
accentuate religious experiences, without the morality, without
the substance.
So he's looking at brain, drugsand how, when we're happy, a
certain part of our brain isactivated and gives off certain
chemicals or electrical currents.
And so these behaviorists whodon't believe in the soul are
(17:53):
literally just looking at thematerial aspect of the brain and
the body, saying, okay, wellthen, we just need to induce
that same electrical circuitrywith certain chemical products
to then give a happy experienceor a religious experience.
So they're purely looking atthe human beings as if we're
programmable machinery withdevoid of soul, honor, freedom,
(18:14):
justice.
These things mean nothing tothem.
God means nothing to them, it'soffensive even, and so for them
they're able to just create newgods that are then managed by a
new.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
The aliens are the new gods, and that's what this
topic is today.
We're gonna take a quick breakand we come back when I ask you
about ancient aliens, thehistory channel and some of
these pop culture narrativesthat are put out there as soon
as we get back.
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Speaker 1 (20:51):
We are talking to Matthew Errett of the Canadian
Patriot Review about his newproject, about the UFO Cyop.
And what about the HistoryChannel and ancient aliens, some
of this pop culture stuffthat's put out this narrative
that aliens have always beenaround, they helped with the
pyramids and all the ancientstuff that we see it's because
of the aliens.
They maybe seeded humanity.
(21:13):
They are creators, they'resuperheroes.
What do you think about thatand any other references you
want to mention?
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Yeah, I think the more research that I had done,
the more it came more and moreapparent that it wasn't just
drugs that were promoted by theCIA as far as the predictive
programming operation, but alsoall of Hollywood became
increasingly an intelligenceoperation.
That was part of the type oftechniques innovated by HTU
(21:45):
Wells over a century ago andrealizing that it's more
efficient to control theimagination of the people
through the medium of fiction,which is what allows us to take
in Trojan horses and shape thedeeper subconscious domain that
is below the domain of ourrational defenses, because when
you're watching a movie, you'rebeing entertained.
(22:05):
You're not thinking criticallyabout what's happening, or
you're reading a fiction story,you're being entertained.
So things are being seeded into the deeper part of the psyche
.
That will not affect so muchwhat you think immediately about
anything, but it'll affect howyou think about everything,
which is much more important,and the idea of the future being
, in the case of HTU Wells, allof these dystopic scenarios.
(22:26):
Usually human beings are thispathetic, destructive,
disgusting thing that misusestechnology, and the only thing
that ever saves us is usually anaccident or a world government
bringing in some priesthood of ascientific, masonic
dictatorship, like in the worldset free or, in things to come,
made into a movie.
But his biggest one was War ofthe Worlds, which is the story
(22:49):
of a Martian invasion 1896.
He wrote this and it was usedand funded by the Rockefeller
Foundation in the 1838 to seepsychologically, how would
people react if they were givena news briefing whereby all of a
sudden they're being told thataliens have landed or are
killing millions of humans.
How would they reactpsychologically?
(23:10):
So that was funded by theRockefeller Foundation, narrated
by Orson Wells, and it workedfairly well.
But they kept refining theirtechniques and as the Satanists
took ever more control ofinfluence in Hollywood they
started promoting things.
That involved bringing JL andHeineck, a high-level CIA
operative who oversaw ProjectBlue Book.
(23:31):
He worked with the NationalEnquirer as well, which was run
as a mafia operation out of theCIA by this guy, a Generalissimo
Pope, the sec junior, a godsonof Frank Costello, also
important for the narcoticstrafficking, who created the
idea was to blur the linedividing reality from fiction.
That was the National Enquirerand they did things like the
(23:53):
Blue Ribbon Project to pour tonsof money into anybody who could
justify the paranormal andaliens.
In the 1970s JL and Heineck wasoverseeing that when he went to
become the advisor to StevenSpielberg overseeing the close
encounters for the third kind.
The ET movie also directly spunout of this, if you look again.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
Luke Lucas and others .
Has anyone been more powerfulbesides George Lucas and
Spielberg in shaping our beliefsabout this topic?
It's so powerful and when thereis this final contact event, or
when there is some type ofhologram or fake invasion or
whatever might happen, everyoneis going to react based on those
(24:35):
beliefs, right?
Speaker 2 (24:38):
Yeah, their attitudes are going to be relatively
predictable and adaptive,instead of thinking morally and
rationally like humans wouldnormally.
They won't realize the decadesand longer of subconscious
management of their subconsciousthat will cause them to be
inclined to do what the heroesdo in these movies when they're
in a dystopic situation, whetherhunger games or something else,
(25:01):
is to go into a fight-or-flightmode of becoming a survivor in
a zombie apocalypse or whatever,or independence days, things
like that.
So, yeah, it's designed to getour critical thinking destroyed
and just accept whatevernarration is given to us by
experts telling us what to thinkabout these holograms, these
lights in the sky, whatever.
(25:24):
Increasingly now, the CIA justreleased reports saying that
they recovered extraterrestrialspacecraft.
This week there's messagingbeing sent into the QAnon
communities as well about theMH-17 flight that they basically
make CGI graphics of the flightthat all of a sudden showcase
three objects moving around theplane that then disappeared from
(25:44):
two directions, as if twosatellites one drone and a
satellite were looking right atthat moment at the plane when it
disappeared.
And so they're saying, oh look,see, they're aliens that
abducted the whole plane fromanother dimension.
And people forget.
How easy is it in the day ofHollywood and CGI to go in and
(26:05):
manage something like that.
And, of course, the CIA is allof a sudden treated like it's an
honest truth-teller, just allof a sudden releasing all of
these reports and all of thisnews, all for our benefit,
because they care Right.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
It's actually surprising to me that this has
been going on for over a century.
That's a lot of planning andnow it's accelerated a lot.
I've even seen stand-up comicstalking about during the
pandemic the authorities weretelling us that UFOs are real
and we just shrugged it offbecause we were worried about
other stuff.
So this narrative about theUFOs and the government kind of
(26:45):
giving it some sense ofcredibility that these stories
are real has definitelyaccelerated.
And now we're in the era ofdeep fakes and holograms and
advanced CGI and so forth, wherethese types of fakes can be
very convincing and just imaginein a few short years
indistinguishable from reality.
(27:05):
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Next, on the Sean Morgan Report, matthew Eratt
explains why the UFO phenomenonis a deep state sigh up, and
we're going to question themainstream narrative and expose
media propaganda right now.
That's a great question.
That's a good question.
That's a great question.
That's a great question.
Well, that's a really goodquestion.
It's a great question.
Well, matthew Eratt is theeditor of the Canadian Patriot
(00:33):
Review.
Thanks for joining us, matt.
Tell us about your new projectabout UFOs.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Oh, it's a great pleasure, sean.
Yeah, the new project is ajoint project that I've begun
with my wife, cynthia Chung, anda wonderful filmmaker named
Jason Dahl, who we've beenworking with now for over a year
, turning some of our writingsand research into multimedia
productions of a very highquality.
So originally the hidden handbehind UFOs was intended to be
(01:03):
one single video, maybe twohours long.
No, first it was going to be 30minutes, dealing with some of
the the psyops that are underappreciated I found in the
alternative media world,regarding some disturbing facts
one could say of, for example,the role of Lawrence Rockefeller
, his operation in rooming notonly MK, ultra psychedelic drugs
(01:29):
, tabistock operations, like theEsselin Institute that promoted
and advanced silo, cyveins, dmt, but also the disclosure
project, which also involvedbringing in Bill Clinton,
hillary, john Podesta and othersto become advocates of
government disclosure of UFOsback in the 1990s, and certain
(01:50):
other very high leveloligarchical forces that are
intending very much that thepopulation of the world today,
especially Americans, obsessover, not stopping World War III
or the depopulation agenda orthe world government agenda of
the great reset, but rather UFOs, which are getting a lot of
(02:11):
publicity in that Pentagon iscarrying out UFO investigations
into government relations withaliens, and we're getting this
on CNN, all the mainstream media, the Congress is featuring
hearings on this.
So there's a lot of messagingobviously intended to get us to
think about this, and wheneverthe oligarchy wants us to think
(02:33):
about something, a lot, weshould always be extra critical
about what is what's the realagenda.
So we tackle this.
We decided to do this as aseries now because the first,
the 30 minute, and then the planto expand that to two hours, as
one standalone video was notadequate, so we decided to make
it a series of videos going for30 to 40 minutes each episode.
(02:53):
The first one is now out,called the Lifting the Esoteric
Veil, taking a bit of a broadstep back into looking at, well,
what is the environment thatshaped the 20th century, going
back to the ancient times andthe mystery religions of the
Roman Empire, babylon and beforethat that are connected to the
current Psyop.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
That's great.
So the first episode is out.
People can check that out atCanadianPatriotorg.
It's interesting to use theword obsess, because the deep
state is trying to get people'sattention on this and that means
that their attention can't beon something else, such as
discovering the deep state, likeyou said.
So could this also be relatedto some type of worship or some
(03:35):
type of fear based mind control?
Because it seems like the twonarratives that's always there
is either aliens are evil andthey're going to get us and just
beware of the ominous disc inthe sky, or it's the aliens
actually created us and seededus here and there is no God.
So can you see, tell me howreligion plays a role here?
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Yeah, I mean in my assessments and your rights.
There's a variety of narratives.
Not all alien narratives arethe same.
There's a bunch that areGroomed and created to fit
certain profiles within thezeitgeist, you know, and you
have the shape-shifting,nefarious, lizard Meta narrative
that's been, you know, promotedout there since the 90s,
(04:20):
especially by David Ike, of theone variation of the nefarious
alien thing that they're tryingto create, global warming to
Prepare the world for theinvasion and takeover by these,
these lizard people that feed onour fear energy.
So, in that sense,therapeutically, we should just
look to really feel good and putup good vibes and then we'll
(04:40):
defeat the, the lizard peoplefrom another dimension.
So, yeah, but like variationslike that, then you have, like
the benevolent aliens.
Are they from our dimension?
Maybe they're from anotherdimension, maybe there's a bit
of both, and you know there's alot of reliance upon reliance
upon Quantum, quantum mechanicsand mathematical probability
theory.
(05:01):
That justifies the assumptionthat there are these multiple
Dimensions that are part of theconcoction of big bang theory
and big bang cosmology is thenecessity to postulate that
there's these infinite othermultiverses, other dimensions
that are then used to then buyand this is really gone heavily
since the the early 70s bypeople like J Allen Heineck, his
(05:24):
, his student, jacques Valet,who's a big player within this
operation.
Harold Poutoff is another one.
They all worked with the, theEsalen Institute funded by
Lawrence Rockfeller, andespecially what's not known as
the Stargate project of theStanford Research Institute of
the 1970s that was Working onparapsychology, talking to
(05:45):
ghosts, mediums, aliens.
A lot of psychedelic drugs werepart of that operation to
figure out how do you create anew type of Human being.
Basically, it was part, it wasa sub branch of MK ultra, and so
the idea of Jacques Valet iswell, these aliens come from
other dimensions, not from ours,our dimension, and so, within
his works, endorsed by, again,poutoff, valet and her big part
(06:09):
of the currents, I think thedominant drive to unveil the
holograms in the sky that willbe the aliens and a lot of the
messaging is is that these areactually the have been here for
ancient times and again, somepeople think of them as
benevolence, most, most of themthink of them as in a negative
way, but either way it's.
It's different flavors of thesame garbage, which is that the,
(06:30):
the elves, the stories ofdemons, of angels, of, of
Ferries in different cultures,were actually aliens this whole
time and people didn't know whatthey were, they were dealing
with, and so they call themangels or demons or fairies or
elves.
And you know, there's a wholeattempt to recast what is
(06:51):
Christianity around this drugalien mythos that Christ either
was an alien, was gettinginformation or powers from
aliens to walk on water, the,the pharaohs, were actually
getting, you know, their, theirtechnology from aliens.
That, and there's variations onthe theme.
Sometimes the aliens arepartially living underground and
we call them the Elohim or theNephilim, right, the reference
(07:13):
Princess to the body in variousAngels that work with Lucifer,
or they're in in the heavens orbit of both.
So there's a whole bunch ofschemes, but the idea is to to
basically cancel Abrahamicreligions and the entire idea of
man made in the image of aliving, loving creator that gave
rise to the American Revolution, everything good in human
(07:34):
civilization or merged with thisidea of the sacredness of life
and human beings made in theimage of a living, loving
creator, mandated to do good ina bed, abide by natural law.
They want to replace all ofthat and restore what they call
the age of Aquarius, becausethey say all of that is the age
of Pisces, the age of Reason, ofJesus, of Socrates.
That has to be canceled, and wewe can't just do it directly.
(07:56):
So what we'll do is we'llrecast the stories and reframe
them around the idea that no, infact it's been aliens the whole
time, that are have been ourgods and that's what we should
be worshipping or afraid of, ora bit of both.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
You know, as I've done interviews with you
recently, there's a recurringtheme that you point out how
preposterous a lot of the thesemajor narratives are, like
Climate change and globalwarming and all that stuff that
a lot of people are already hipto, that being a hoax, but many
(08:32):
other narratives that that wejust kind of take with a grain
of salt.
Now that may just be pseudoscience, you know, and when you,
when you clarified this wholereptilian narrative, it was
surprising to me, one, howpreposterous it is and two, how
detailed and cohesive it is.
(08:52):
That that everyone's because ofDavid Ike, because of these
various influencers.
They're very familiar with thisidea of this narrative, and not
to mention Hollywood and a manyof these, these Influencers on
the internet, borrow from theseHollywood stories and say well,
you know what, what thereptilians look like.
Well, they look like thereptilians or the aliens on the
movie the fifth element, and Isaw a reptilian and I drew a
(09:15):
picture of it and it looks likethis movie.
And so these movies and theseinfluencers Help shape how we
even think about what aliens are, where they come from, their
nature and what they look like.
And you've pointed out how manyof these deep state operatives
are funded to push thesenarratives and you mentioned
Rockefeller and you've mentionedSome of the newer influencers
(09:40):
you know like, like thedisclosure project.
You mentioned Delonge fromblink 182 and their stars into
the stars Academy.
Can you, can you elaborate onthat?
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Oh, yeah, sure, I mean, it's useful just to hold
on to some of these weirdanomalies and the fact that Tom
DeLonge, who's largely asuperficial character I mean,
when you listen to him speak,there's not much that's there,
but he's a bit of a joke and thething about him is he doesn't
realize that he's a joke, andthat's why he's useful as a
cardboard cutout, because theyalways need a frontman to
(10:17):
attribute something as aninstitutional political
operation too.
They can't just say, hey, thisis the CIA, just came up with
this operation to organize andofficially fund alien motifs in
preparation for the greatdisclosure of UFOs that is being
prepared by the benevolent deepstate that cares about the
(10:39):
truth so much that it has toprepare us, and Tom DeLonge's To
the Stars Academy was selectedto be one of those conduits that
would pour money into comicbooks and films and movies and
stories and other things thatshape the culture around aliens
and paranormal activity, and ofcourse, they're always trying to
bridge the two.
The co-founder of it, though,is, I think, more close to a
(11:01):
causal nexus, in the form ofHarold Putoff, who I again I'd
mentioned earlier was a seventhdegree OT Scientologist follower
of Elron Hubbard, who himselfwas a follower of Alistair
Crowley who believed he wascarrying on Crowley's mission
after Crowley died.
Both of them were members ofthe leading figures within the
Ordo Templi Orientus, the OTO,the California branch doing sex,
(11:25):
magic rituals and other satanicthings in the deserts, and that
you know.
So, the Scientology's alienscults largely, I think, actually
affects the thinking even ofpeople like Joseph Campbell who
advised, who was largely theinspiration for George Lucas
(11:48):
when he created the settingaround which the Star Wars story
would take place.
You know, and Scientology hasgalactic federations existing
billions of years ago, with adark-sit lord who you know had
allies that were deployed, weresent over to the earth at some
primitive time that got suckedinto I mean, it gets a little
(12:09):
lasaini into volcanoes andsomehow, how ironic is it that
Elron Hubbard was a sci-fiwriter, right?
Speaker 1 (12:16):
So he writes fiction and then he also runs a mind
control religion and they fittogether quite nicely.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Yeah, they really do.
And he follows people likeGeorge Adamski, who still had,
who created sort of the firsttheosophist affiliated, occult,
alien secret set or alienreligion, a year before Hubbard
did it.
And Hubbard, by the way, calledhimself the Antichrist in an
interview directly and his soncalled him.
His son gave an interview toPenthouse Magazine in 1983
(12:43):
saying that my father practicedritual black magic in the house
all the time.
That was our religion.
He believed he was Satan, justlike Crowley did earlier and
Parsons did too.
So all that to say, this is whatHal Putoff is immersed within
with Jacques Valais, and JacquesValais is also, you know,
working together, as I mentioned, befriending Antoine Leve,
working with Michael Aquino,who's operating the first Earth
(13:08):
Battalion and the Jedi, the Jedibattalions that take over Fort
Bragg, that create this, thepsychological warfare operations
, groups that drive theRevolution and military affairs
in the early 80s around.
This stuff that came in fromEsalen, overseen by Aquino.
Aquino, by the way, is the headof the temple of set, the
(13:28):
second command of Leve.
So you have a high convergenceof Satanists and these, these
figures within the pseudoscientific communities at Esalen
, the New Age, who are workingwith drugs.
They're all working to createnew, new sacred stories that
will then shape the, the greatnarrative, which is also, by the
way, a Davos organized projectcalled the great narrative.
(13:52):
We need new sacred stories thatwill replace the outdated ones,
like Christianity.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
So right, sorry, I want to hop in here real quick
about pop culture now and howthat relates to this.
With Joe Rogan's, the mostpopular podcast in the world and
he pushes this psychedelic typeof religion.
And you've mentioned anotherperson from from Ted Talks who's
constantly talking aboutpsychedelics and they're pushing
(14:21):
this idea that if you want tohave a sacred experience, you
don't go to church, you don'tpray, you don't fast, you don't
do any of the stuff that we'vedone for thousands of years.
To have a sacred experience ordo compassionate charity or
something like that.
You have to go to the Amazonrainforest and take ayahuasca
and then finally you will have asacred experience.
Haven't you noticed over thepast 10 years that kind of story
(14:47):
being pushed?
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Yeah, well, I think Timothy Leary in his
autobiography described let thecattle of the bag when he said
he described an interaction hehad with Aldous Huxley, who was
the founder, who was Huxleystudents, who were founding the
Estlin Institute.
And Timothy Leary describesthis discussion where he says
that Aldous told him that thetrue enemy ultimately, timothy,
(15:12):
that we have to destroy isJudeo-Christian civilization and
it's time for a new scientificpaganism to be reborn.
And when you look at peoplethat they were working with and
Leary was popularizing everysort of mind-altering drug that
was produced by MK-Alter and theCIA but they were working with
people like Gordon Wassoon.
Gordon Wassoon is somebodywho's been turned into a cult,
(15:35):
almost guru, by Rogan and others.
He was a vice president ofJPMorgan Bank who went down into
Mexico to Duayahuasca for thefirst time.
That was then publicized.
His articles and descriptionswere publicized by Henry Luce
from Time Magazine, who was anLSD-dropping pro-fascist to put
(15:57):
Hitler and Mussolini on Time'sman of the Year, working with
the deep state, with LawrenceRockefeller, to turn the USA
into an empire.
He actually was part of thecommission under Lawrence
Rockefeller and Nelson in 1956that was based on the USA in the
New World Order called theRockefeller Commission and Henry
.
So Gordon Wassoon is the secondin command of JPMorgan who
(16:19):
becomes the guru of the drugcult.
That then feeds into creating amecca experience for people
like Rogan and a wholegeneration of baby boomer
hippies who did their wholemecca with Duayahuasca starting
with the 60s, following his leadin Time Magazine.
So all of this fed into thework that was done in Harvard on
the silo-siding project thatLeary worked on as well.
(16:41):
That created the unabomber.
Ted Kaczynski came out of that.
Charles Manson also had like180 hours of Scientology
auditing and it wasn't reallyall through.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
So really nice guinea pigs came out of that
scientific project the unabomberand Charles Manson.
That just shows how harmfulthis type of experimentation on
humans is.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Oh yeah, absolutely.
And they're looking like AldousHuxley is looking in the Brave
New World.
It's a guidebook.
It's not like a warning, aspeople say.
It's a guidebook on how to dothis in a clean way, a clean
dictatorship without tears, ashe calls it, where people will
have chains but they will loveand die to defend the chains
that are on them in theconcentration camp of their
minds.
Based on soma, which is a Vedicterm that he took, based upon
(17:30):
some mystery drug that ended upbecoming LSD and DMT to
accentuate religious experiences, without the morality, without
the substance.
So he's looking at brain, drugsand how, when we're happy, a
certain part of our brain isactivated and gives off certain
chemicals or electrical currents.
And so these behaviorists whodon't believe in the soul are
(17:53):
literally just looking at thematerial aspect of the brain and
the body, saying, okay, wellthen, we just need to induce
that same electrical circuitrywith certain chemical products
to then give a happy experienceor a religious experience.
So they're purely looking atthe human beings as if we're
programmable machinery withdevoid of soul, honor, freedom,
(18:14):
justice.
These things mean nothing tothem.
God means nothing to them, it'soffensive even, and so for them
they're able to just create newgods that are then managed by a
new.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
The aliens are the new gods, and that's what this
topic is today.
We're gonna take a quick breakand we come back when I ask you
about ancient aliens, thehistory channel and some of
these pop culture narrativesthat are put out there as soon
as we get back.
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We are talking to Matthew Errett of the Canadian
Patriot Review about his newproject, about the UFO Cyop.
And what about the HistoryChannel and ancient aliens, some
of this pop culture stuffthat's put out this narrative
that aliens have always beenaround, they helped with the
pyramids and all the ancientstuff that we see it's because
of the aliens.
They maybe seeded humanity.
(21:13):
They are creators, they'resuperheroes.
What do you think about thatand any other references you
want to mention?
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Yeah, I think the more research that I had done,
the more it came more and moreapparent that it wasn't just
drugs that were promoted by theCIA as far as the predictive
programming operation, but alsoall of Hollywood became
increasingly an intelligenceoperation.
That was part of the type oftechniques innovated by HTU
(21:45):
Wells over a century ago andrealizing that it's more
efficient to control theimagination of the people
through the medium of fiction,which is what allows us to take
in Trojan horses and shape thedeeper subconscious domain that
is below the domain of ourrational defenses, because when
you're watching a movie, you'rebeing entertained.
(22:05):
You're not thinking criticallyabout what's happening, or
you're reading a fiction story,you're being entertained.
So things are being seeded into the deeper part of the psyche
.
That will not affect so muchwhat you think immediately about
anything, but it'll affect howyou think about everything,
which is much more important,and the idea of the future being
, in the case of HTU Wells, allof these dystopic scenarios.
(22:26):
Usually human beings are thispathetic, destructive,
disgusting thing that misusestechnology, and the only thing
that ever saves us is usually anaccident or a world government
bringing in some priesthood of ascientific, masonic
dictatorship, like in the worldset free or, in things to come,
made into a movie.
But his biggest one was War ofthe Worlds, which is the story
(22:49):
of a Martian invasion 1896.
He wrote this and it was usedand funded by the Rockefeller
Foundation in the 1838 to seepsychologically, how would
people react if they were givena news briefing whereby all of a
sudden they're being told thataliens have landed or are
killing millions of humans.
How would they reactpsychologically?
(23:10):
So that was funded by theRockefeller Foundation, narrated
by Orson Wells, and it workedfairly well.
But they kept refining theirtechniques and as the Satanists
took ever more control ofinfluence in Hollywood they
started promoting things.
That involved bringing JL andHeineck, a high-level CIA
operative who oversaw ProjectBlue Book.
(23:31):
He worked with the NationalEnquirer as well, which was run
as a mafia operation out of theCIA by this guy, a Generalissimo
Pope, the sec junior, a godsonof Frank Costello, also
important for the narcoticstrafficking, who created the
idea was to blur the linedividing reality from fiction.
That was the National Enquirerand they did things like the
(23:53):
Blue Ribbon Project to pour tonsof money into anybody who could
justify the paranormal andaliens.
In the 1970s JL and Heineck wasoverseeing that when he went to
become the advisor to StevenSpielberg overseeing the close
encounters for the third kind.
The ET movie also directly spunout of this, if you look again.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
Luke Lucas and others .
Has anyone been more powerfulbesides George Lucas and
Spielberg in shaping our beliefsabout this topic?
It's so powerful and when thereis this final contact event, or
when there is some type ofhologram or fake invasion or
whatever might happen, everyoneis going to react based on those
(24:35):
beliefs, right?
Speaker 2 (24:38):
Yeah, their attitudes are going to be relatively
predictable and adaptive,instead of thinking morally and
rationally like humans wouldnormally.
They won't realize the decadesand longer of subconscious
management of their subconsciousthat will cause them to be
inclined to do what the heroesdo in these movies when they're
in a dystopic situation, whetherhunger games or something else,
(25:01):
is to go into a fight-or-flightmode of becoming a survivor in
a zombie apocalypse or whatever,or independence days, things
like that.
So, yeah, it's designed to getour critical thinking destroyed
and just accept whatevernarration is given to us by
experts telling us what to thinkabout these holograms, these
lights in the sky, whatever.
(25:24):
Increasingly now, the CIA justreleased reports saying that
they recovered extraterrestrialspacecraft.
This week there's messagingbeing sent into the QAnon
communities as well about theMH-17 flight that they basically
make CGI graphics of the flightthat all of a sudden showcase
three objects moving around theplane that then disappeared from
(25:44):
two directions, as if twosatellites one drone and a
satellite were looking right atthat moment at the plane when it
disappeared.
And so they're saying, oh look,see, they're aliens that
abducted the whole plane fromanother dimension.
And people forget.
How easy is it in the day ofHollywood and CGI to go in and
(26:05):
manage something like that.
And, of course, the CIA is allof a sudden treated like it's an
honest truth-teller, just allof a sudden releasing all of
these reports and all of thisnews, all for our benefit,
because they care Right.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
It's actually surprising to me that this has
been going on for over a century.
That's a lot of planning andnow it's accelerated a lot.
I've even seen stand-up comicstalking about during the
pandemic the authorities weretelling us that UFOs are real
and we just shrugged it offbecause we were worried about
other stuff.
So this narrative about theUFOs and the government kind of
(26:45):
giving it some sense ofcredibility that these stories
are real has definitelyaccelerated.
And now we're in the era ofdeep fakes and holograms and
advanced CGI and so forth, wherethese types of fakes can be
very convincing and just imaginein a few short years
indistinguishable from reality.
(27:05):
So that's why, as you've saidso many times in this interview,
it's really about returning toour rational minds and the real
scientific method to figure outwhat's real and what isn't.
So thank you for the workyou're doing to deprogram people
through this series.
People can check that out atwwwCanadianPatriotorg.
Thank you for the great workthat you're doing and thank you
(27:27):
to all of you for watching AmpNews.
We are America's PatriotNetwork.
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Good night and good luck.
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