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June 24, 2026 • 42 mins

In this episode, we dig into whether DAST is dead, mostly dead, or quietly making a comeback dressed in an AI trench coat. The conversation traces the origins of dynamic application security testing from nmap scans and open source hacker tools to a market now valued at nearly four billion dollars and growing. We debate where DAST ends, and AI pen testing begins, whether AI can find a vulnerability nobody has ever seen before, and what happens when you compound the false positives of rigid rule-based scanning with the hallucinations of a large language model. Also: cats meowing the Final Countdown.

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 If AI pen testing can already find zero days in open source software, does human pen testing still have a defensible edge — or are we just not ready to admit it doesn't?

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