December 11, 2024 • 59 mins
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Discover the transformative power of hypnotherapy with our special guest, Erica Antonetti, a certified hypnotherapist and CEO of Premier Hypnotherapy of Sacramento. Erica shares her compelling journey from military service to healing through hypnotherapy, shedding light on common misconceptions fueled by Hollywood. Learn how this natural therapeutic process can help align your subconscious habits with conscious goals, paving the way for personal growth and well-being.
The episode unpacks the immense potential of the subconscious mind, responsible for a significant majority of our brain's capacity. We discuss how hypnotherapy can reshape deeply ingrained patterns, address anxiety, and promote a tranquil state of mind, shifting from stress to relaxation. Erica and I explore the mind-body connection, offering insights into how perception and mental focus can influence body image, confidence, and overall health.
We also tackle the emotional triggers behind eating habits, distinguishing between guilt and shame, and how understanding these can help maintain a balanced diet. Through personal stories and practical exercises, we aim to empower you to harness the benefits of hypnotherapy for a leaner, stronger, and healthier self. Join us as we embark on this enlightening journey, with practical tips and upcoming sessions to support your path towards transformation.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Simplicity of Wellness podcast.
I'm your host, board-certifiedholistic nutritionist and
professional life coach, amyWhite.
The purpose of this podcast isto share information that you
can use to become leaner,stronger and healthier by losing
weight, shedding inches,maintaining muscle and managing
(00:21):
your mind, all while living yournormal busy life in this modern
, sugar-filled world.
Hello, simplifiers, today'spodcast is a little bit
different than my previouspodcast.
Today I'm going to post a groupcoaching call that I did with a
guest coach.
This guest coach specializes inhypnotherapy.
(00:44):
During this group call shetakes us through a hypnotherapy
session.
For that reason, I'm going toput a disclaimer at the
beginning of this podcast.
Please do not listen to thispodcast when you're driving or
operating heavy equipment ordoing any task that requires
your full attention and focus.
(01:04):
The best time to listen to thisweek's podcast will be when you
are at home in a comfortableplace.
So let's start withintroductions so that people
understand who you are, what youdo, how it's different, and I
guess that'll kind of explainitself when you kind of explain
what we're doing.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Yes, so I'm Erica Antonetti.
Kind of explain what we'redoing.
Yes, so I'm Erica Antonetti.
I'm a certified hypnotherapist,a life coach and a CEO of
Premier Hypnotherapy ofSacramento, out here in
California, and I help peoplemake changes through the power
of their subconscious mind,since that's the most powerful
part of our brain, but noteverybody knows how to use it
(01:43):
okay, so basically tapping intoour subconscious so that we
aren't intentionally orunintentionally doing things
that we are unaware of.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Is that how that kind of work?
Speaker 2 (01:54):
yeah, so I got a diagram.
I'll break this down, but firstI want to ask what is
everybody's perception ofhypnosis, what have you heard
about it or what do you thinkyou know about it, or what have
you experienced with it?
Speaker 1 (02:09):
before.
My only experience was incollege.
They had a hypnotherapist comein and I just remember thinking
oh, this is a bad thing, I can'tvolunteer because I'll do
something super stupid or reallyembarrassing.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
that that has been my perception of hypnosis yeah,
and it's a common thing, becauseVegas, you know Vegas they have
us up here clucking likechickens and they want to show
people.
You know things, but show thelike.
Hollywood and the movies arevery different from reality.
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We know that if we've ever, youknow, seen nurses portrayed and
the movies are very differentfrom reality.
We know that if we've ever, youknow, seen nurses portrayed on
the movies, or military, or youknow, they tend to elaborate the
truth a little bit, and Vegasshows can be the same way.
So if anybody ever asks me if,like, are you going to make me
bark like a dog, I would say,well, why do you want to bark
like a dog?
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You can't make me do anythingyou don't want to do.
So, um, I had the same fears asyou when I first came to
hypnosis.
Um, I was served in themilitary and then, after I was
done with that, I was on ahealing journey and it led me to
hypnotherapy school, and Ialways tell people I actually
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went to help a friend sign up.
She wanted emotional support,like she didn't want to go into
this new environment alone, andI was like, okay, I'll make sure
they don't swindle you.
Like hypnotize you and swindleyou, you know, and all this
stuff.
And we went and she ended upnot signing up that day.
And I signed up and I alwayssay that hypnosis saved my life
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because, after um challengeswith PTSD, it, it saved my life.
It changed the whole way I sawthe world and, um, and the way
that I saw my own power, and so,um, I always say it's just
amazing and I wanted tounderstand how the brain worked
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and how the mind worked at adeeper level and, um, it allowed
me the space to do this.
So, um, what I will say abouthypnosis is you won't go to
sleep, you won't be unconscious.
There's no way to get stuck inhypnosis, because we naturally
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go into hypnosis two times a dayat the bare minimum, whether we
know it or not.
So it's not something you haveto believe in in order to do it.
There's no magic to it.
It's a psychological process,it's a somatic process that
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works with your body-mindconnection.
What else?
Pretty much everyone ishypnotizable.
We've often heard, oh, you'dhave to be vulnerable or super
suggestible or gullible or naivein order to be hypnotized.
That's not true.
According to I believe it's aStanford, it might be Harvard or
Stanford research.
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Everyone is hypnotizable.
You just have to talk to thosetwo people differently.
Hypnotizable you just have totalk to those two people
differently.
And because I know the power oflanguage, I'm able to.
I haven't never met anyone thatwasn't hypnotized in my office.
Um, I also have a white paper Iwant to share with you guys that
I will forward to you, amy andyou can share with people, um,
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and this is the um, the commonmedical issues that hypnosis has
been scientifically researchedto help with, like smoking,
weight loss, ibs, all kinds offun stuff.
So I will make sure to sharethis so that you guys can
actually see the science thatbacks this modality.
And then I mean, yeah, becauseit's a proven therapeutic
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process.
In California, hypnotherapistsare trained legal therapists for
vocational and avocational usefrom the DSM-5 or who has a
medical diagnosis.
We do have a process where weget referrals, medical referrals
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to work with those certainthings like PTSD or trauma,
stress, whatever.
That is Pretty much.
Hypnosis is a really naturalprocess.
Like I said, you go through itseveral times a day, one being
right before you wake up in themorning, like about 30 minutes
after you awake, your brain isstill kind of coming online and
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it's in this a very zen placeusually, and then sometimes it's
about 30 minutes before you goto bed, you start to shift into
a different gear, so to speak,and your mind's getting ready to
go to sleep and those are knownas the hypnagogic state.
So I'm going to do a little bitof teaching today, but not a
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whole lot, and I don't want toget boring.
But I don't know if you've evernoticed, if you've been driving
down the road and you werelistening to your favorite song
and you were like, oh my God.
I missed my exit or we got hereso fast it felt like it just
took a minute and it's becausewe were in autopilot, in
hypnosis.
We went that way so many timesthat our car we know exactly how
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to drive our car and jam out tothe music and we're not under
threat.
So we don't have to be likehyper alert and that's pretty
much a state of environmentalhypnosis.
Or if you've ever been inchurch and you just kept yawning
and you couldn't quit yawningand your butt hurts and you're
like, oh, my goodness, when's hegoing to be done, you're in a
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state of environmental hypnosis.
Or if you've ever been in amovie theater and you know that
the people are not real and theevent that's happening is not
real in that moment, and yetyou're moved to tears or you're
jumping out of fear, that'sbecause you've temporarily
suspended your critical factorin order to be entertained and
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you've gone into a state ofhypnosis oh, that's so
interesting and it right Whetheryou've ever cried in a movie or
been afraid.
it feels very real, but we knowit's not real.
But yet we're still able toaccess those emotions and those
feelings and those thoughtsaround this environment that we
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have put ourselves in.
So all of that is environmentalhypnosis.
It's very common.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
So I have a question, susan and Sarah have either of
you had any experience withhypnosis?
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Only when I heard patients that attempted it for
smoking cessation.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Sarah's a nurse.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Nice.
Oh, that's interesting becauseI used nurse as an example
earlier.
Speaker 4 (09:03):
Sorry, I've seen it in like shows.
Like you're talking about, amy,and also I did have a class
where a teacher it was amind-body class and a teacher
brought in a hypnotherapist andtook us through something, took
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us through something and, um, I,I don't like I came out of it.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
I mean, I didn't know if I went in it or came out
like do you know if you've been,you know, hypnotized, right?
Um, it feels different foreveryone.
Some people feel like the lighttingly sensation, or like
they're floating, or maybe likefeeling like a little bit of
like, like like kind of groggy.
Some people feel.
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I tend to feel very heavy, likemy body weighs a gazillion
pounds and in a really good way,like I'm in the most deep state
of comfort and I just don'twant to move because it feels so
good.
Deep state of comfort, I justdon't want to move because it
feels so good.
And then some people feelnothing physical sensations at
all, and and so, however youexperience, it is just right for
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you and it can change over time, and that's another reason why
we wanted to do this a few timeswith you, because it's with
anything in life, it's justunlearning the old and replacing
it with the new, and in orderto do that, we want to do
repetition right, becauseeverything that we do more than
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once or twice, we get better atas we do it.
So my goal for today was tointroduce you guys to me and
hypnosis and to do somethingthat's very not even associated
with weight loss or being, youknow, like super healthy.
It has no like really big goal.
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It's just like a feel goodsession where we want to just
positize you guys in the rightdirection, where we want to just
positize you guys in the rightdirection.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Is it possible to get comfortable with hypnosis, like
meeting with you a couple oftimes or however many times, to
a point where we can sort ofself-meditate and find our
hypnotic state?
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Absolutely, because once you start to feel what that
feels like for you, and thenyou'll hear me a few times and
you'll, you'll kind of know,like, how this goes right.
So, um, you'll kind of like itsounds a lot like meditation,
but I think the differencebetween hypnosis and meditation
is meditation is very passive.
It wants you to empty out yourthoughts, which?
can be really challengingbecause our brains have a lot to
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say all the time abouteverything.
And with hypnosis I say it'slike meditation.
It feels good like that, butit's meditation with a purpose.
And so you're going to beactive and I will be directing
you to be doing something inyour brain and you'll be focused
on that.
And so, where a lot of peoplequit meditation, because I just
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can't do it or they thinkthey're doing it wrong.
Hypnosis can be a really greatsegue into the.
The like more mind ninja,meditation, stuff later on down
the road.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
yeah, I love that um meditation, a purpose that
really pushes my buttons.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
This is just a quick explanation.
It's not if you're allscientists like we would have a
very different conversation if Ihad a neuroscientist sitting in
front of me but for the layman,we give you just like the bare
bones, basic science andpsychology of it all.
So let me see here, yeah, solet's just say this is your
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brain and this is going torepresent what we call the
theory of mind.
And so we have.
You know, you've heard thatwhen children are born we start
with a blank slate, right, it'snot new.
And we have this part down herein our brain that's called the
primitive part of our brain.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
We can see it totally .
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Yeah, and that's the amygdala.
If you're aware of what theamygdala is?
It processes our threat in ourenvironment and it keeps us
alive.
Its prime directive is to keepus surviving, and so it has.
Its job is to keep us alive andit screens our environment for
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threat.
And we have fight, flight orfreeze or fawn, and essentially
this is how you deal with thestress of living everyday stress
in modern day.
Well, let's just say, incaveman days, fight would have
been like I see a tiger, I havea club in my hand, I can beat
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the tiger down in order tosurvive.
And in modern day it's anxiety.
I have to go to work, I've gotthis deadline, I've got to go to
college, I've got this debt,you know, project do, and you're
just in the fight every day,trying to stay alive.
And then flight is there's atiger, I'm far enough away from
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it, I can run and I can escape.
And that might look like modernday depression.
It's like I just can't do thisjob at corporate another day.
I'm going to take a nap instead.
So we've got anxiety,depression, and then the last
one would be freeze, and that'swhat we know as modern day
procrastination if the threat isis so close, we can't get away.
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We just roll over and play deadand um, that's actually yeah.
So we'll just fight, flight orfreeze, that's anxiety
depression and procrastination.
Um, and procrastination can havea positive um.
It can have a positive on us,dep.
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Positive on us depends, like,if we have a lot of us women, we
love to make lists in order tokeep our lives running in order,
and If you have 20 things onthe list, you might get to
number three or four and thenyou're just like, okay, I'm done
, and that's a kind of abuilt-in survival mechanism so
that we don't burn out.
So in that way procrastinationcan serve us because it says now
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just take a break, you've doneenough for today and we'll pick
it back up tomorrow.
But in some ways it can benon-beneficial to us.
And then we have to kind ofwork on why are we stalling on
this thing that's so importantto us?
So from about zero to nine yearsold, all children hear
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everything that they hear.
They take it in as absolutetruth and that's why we believe
that.
You know, superman can fly.
And we, you know, we see ourlittle five-year-olds jumping
off the couch and pretendingthey're superman or they.
Why they believe in santa clausand the tooth fairy.
Because they don't have thatcritical filter built yet enough
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in their mind or in their brainin order to, um, be able to
decipher what's true and what'snot, and, um, yeah, so they take
that in as absolute truth.
And then, around nine years old, we kind of build this critical
filter.
Now, everything that we'vetaken in is absolute truth.
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It could be like my brothersays I'm stupid, or my mother
says I'm special, or my mothersays I'm special.
And it could be like I lovecake on my birthday but I hate
spinach.
Or I love hugs and kisses but Ihate to be kicked in spanked.
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Or I love cats because they'reso cuddly but got bit by a dog.
So this here is our knownassociations and what we learn
is good, bad, and and thisbecomes our subconscious mind.
Now our subconscious mind isabout 88 to 90 percent of our
total brain power.
It, it's the storehouse for allof our knowns, of our
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experience of the world and allthe people and all the ideas and
things we've come across.
And some of you might be awarethat this is also where the like
, the pleasure, the painpleasure principle comes from.
So, like in cases of domesticviolence, violence, we ask why
does a woman stay?
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And it's well, she's all she's.
Only now she maybe she wasraised in a domestic violence
household and she only knowslove to be this type of way,
controlling, abusive, whatever.
And so we would, as ahypnotherapist, we've got to
kind of make that a negative forher so that she can change her
life if she's not happy.
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And what happens here is thisbecomes your known, this is all
your knowns.
So this is where you hear, like, the fear of the unknown,
anything unknown to the brain,it's not going to go toward it.
And this is where all yourstorehouse for emotions,
memories, this is where thetrauma kind of gets stored, but
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especially down here, around theprimitive part of the brain.
So up here is your consciousmind.
It's 10% of your total brainpower, but it's the part that
everyone thinks that we're allusing all the time, like every,
we all tend to think, oh, I'lljust make the decision and I'll
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just go do it, and that's a partof it, because it all works
together.
But, as you can see, it's notthe part that that really
motivates you to do anything,and that's why.
Well, let me go back.
The conscious mind is made up ofour logic, our reasoning,
analyzation skills, willpower,and you know it's, it's pretty
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much the thing that helps us tobalance the checkbook every
month.
Um, when we have a thought likeI want to lose 20 pounds, the
thought will go in in the way weprocess it, through our
conscious mind, our neocortex,and it's going to have to go
through the critical filter andgo check in with the
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subconscious.
And if you maybe grew up in asedentary family where nobody
worked out, you might go to thegym for two weeks on January 1st
and then you're going to runright back into old patterns and
habits, because that's what'srunning the show.
It's going to kick that thoughtright back out of the brain and
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you're going to.
You know, have paid for a gymmembership and not even gone the
whole year, like we've all seenit before when we want to make
like New Year's resolutions.
So what we do in hypnosis is webypass the critical filter, we
open the door and then we go inand we change those.
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Whatever it is you want tochange, we change those to
positives and we close it backup and then your patterns change
, your behavior changes.
Now, it's not a magic pill,because obviously you've got a.
It's nothing I can make you dowithout you wanting to to do it.
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You know it's um, but we do itthrough hypnotic suggestions
that are positive, that are whatwe've already agreed on, that
you want to work on.
And, of course, how it relatesto this group is Y'all are on a
journey for a healthy, healthierbody and healthier lifestyle,
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and so those positivesuggestions would be tied to
that.
Pretty much how it works, likethat's the magic of it, and it
has to do with yourparasympathetic system and your
sympathetic system.
Right, like if your sympatheticsystem is activated, that means
you're in fight, flight orfreeze.
You know, we know how the bodyresponds.
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I always say that thisprimitive part of your body is
like the emergency room and wedon't want to be in the
emergency room more than like10% of our whole life.
You know it's like if you wantto.
You know if you get a toughdiagnosis or something, you want
to be able to handle it, butyou don't want to stay there.
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So we want to engage yourparasympathetic system so that
you're in that.
You know restful space, thatcalm space in your body, so that
you can make decisions and makechanges that you want to make.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
That was really cool, very interesting.
I loved how you put the fight,flight and freeze from primitive
to modern, but the fight,flight and freeze from primitive
to modern.
It was really interesting tosee the anxiety, the depression
and the procrastination justbroken out.
I was like, oh that's sointeresting.
And I loved, your.
I love when you said roll overand play dead, right, that's
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procrastination.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
We're freezing, we're just like, ok, I'm just going
to pretend, if no one can see me, that this is not a thing.
Yeah, because we're, like, weall deal with daily stress and,
like you know, I feel liketime's even moving.
I like, I just feel like it'sgotten, you know, it's more
stress right yeah, yeah and yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
All the things right but you think and all that.
So one of the big things thathappens with my group when
everybody starts managing theirfood in a way that's kind of
working for their body andthey're feeling better is that
anxiety goes away, so that thatyou know we come out of that
fight mode.
I have to think a lot moreabout this, with the anxiety and
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the and the fight, because Ialways talk about traditional
weight loss as being this fightagainst your body, and then what
we're doing is we're learninghow to work with our body.
So we're coming out of thatfight mode and we're going into
that sort of calm space that youdescribed.
Yeah, that's so interesting andit's just one of those things
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that I don't often tie in forpeople is this idea about
calming anxiety.
But my daughter made a reallygood point with me the other day
.
She's 31 and she said her themillennials, they are body
positive, it's a body positivegroup.
They're like it's not aboutweight for them.
They're like yeah, you know Ilove the way I look and you know
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, whatever it is, she goes.
Their focus is all about theiranxiety.
She goes mom, I don't know oneperson, aside from myself and
her husband who isn't on anxietymedicine.
She's like everybody's onanxiety medication, even more
than one and and so I was justlike, yeah, that's so
interesting because they don'tknow how to manage that
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sympathetic nervous system andthey have this crazy level of
anxiety, which is so interesting.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
So, anyway, I'm a millennial so I feel that so
hard.
I'm not on anxiety medicine butthat's because I went.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
Well, you've learned how to work with your mind.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
And it is interesting about the body because I was
like I've always, you know, I'mlike I was raised in the South
and their ways can be a littledifferent than how we do things
out West.
You know, like every area inour country is like like
regionally different.
It has its differences andcultural differences and, um, so
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I was raised like doingpageants, you know, and, uh,
being a child performer,entertainer, singer, dancer, so
looks were very important, but Iwas not raised with like I
didn't, we didn't diet in myhousehold, we didn't step on the
scale.
It was like, oh, we just likelearned a lot, like we just
loved our bodies.
And then we didn't have anythoughts about our body being
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against us.
So, it never was, and then when?
I went into the military whereit was very body focused, very
like.
It was wild as far as like theywould break out the measuring
tapes and if your waist is not acertain type, you know it's
certain amount it it.
And so it's like then I startedhaving body issues and I'm like
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it's because my thoughts aboutmy body, my body, precisely yeah
so that's the power of the mind, right?
it's like what we focus onfollows so are we focusing on
the negative or are we focusingon the positive?
Are we accepting what we cancontrol?
Are we accepting what we can'tcontrol?
you know, where are we takingpersonal responsibility?
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It's all.
It's kind of all a dance, right, yeah, okay, so our first, um,
little experience I'm gonna haveyou guys do is we're going to
do like Charlie's Angels here,we're going to dance here and
clap them together and giveourselves a little gun, okay.
And then I want you to likepull your fingers out wide and
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so that you can look and putthem, you know right eye level,
and go ahead and just focus onthose fingers and yep, there you
go and just stare at the spacein between those fingers and
keep focused on them now andlooking at the tips of your
fingers as they start to cometogether in little jerky motions
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.
Now keep focused, keep focused,keep focused on the tips of your
fingers.
That's right.
It's interesting, Almost likehow a string is just pulling
them closer and closer together,closer and closer.
And just imagine that hypnosisfeeling the fingertips now and
feel the fingers coming togethernow and allow that hypnosis,
once they touch, to go downthrough the fingers, letting
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them touch, letting them movecloser and closer, closer and
closer, in little jerky motions.
And we'll wait for everyone toget there.
That's right, because sometimesit's a little slower, sometimes
it's a little faster.
And just allowing that tohappen now, that's right, very
good.
And as you allow thosefingertips to touch, allow that
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hypnosis to go down through thefingers and into the knuckles
and into the palms of the handsand into the wrists and the
elbows and the shoulders, andallowing that hypnosis to move
up the neck and down over theback of the head and over the
front of the face and theforehead, and allowing that
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hypnosis to trickle down overthe eyes and the eyes may want
to blink.
That's a natural, normal thing,and just feeling that hypnosis,
no matter how it feels to you,there's no wrong way to do it.
And just imagine your eyesbecoming heavier and heavier,
heavier and heavier, and itmight feel right to close your
eyes becoming heavier andheavier, heavier and heavier,
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and it might feel right to closeyour eyes and just allow them
to lock into place now, that'sright and allow every nerve and
muscle to relax, from the top ofyour head 10, to the top of
your toes nine, eight.
Feeling that hypnosis flowthrough your body all the way
down, touching every fiber, cell, muscle, nerve.
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That's right, allowing it totouch and relax To find that
comfort, that hypnosis, all theway down.
Feeling it drifting ten timesdeeper, deeper, as it moves down
, deeper into your body,drifting deeper now, allowing it
to go down to the hips and theknees, if it hasn't already,
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down to the calves and the feet.
And you can drop your hands ifthat feels more comfortable, or
you can stay right where you'reat and enjoy that feeling of
hypnosis and, as you notice thatcalm and that peace, however
that relaxation feels to you,you can go to that special place
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, that place that feels justright in your body, that place
that feels clear and calm, withevery heartbeat and every breath
, and just enjoy being thereright now and finding that
comfort level that's best foryou, at 10 times as deep, 20
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times as deep, 30 times as deep,and as you relax more and more
and you listen to the sound ofmy voice, it's interesting to
notice the state of mind thatyou walked into the room with
and the state of calm andrelaxation that you might be in
right now, or the state ofwondering.
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And yet it's interesting whenyou're wandering in your mind
and you're in this room andyou've gone out of the room in
your mind and it's all veryinteresting.
And whether you're right hereor far away, allowing it all to
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be is just right.
And it's interesting how we canbe in this room.
But we can be traveling in ourminds, coming in one state of
mind and going out another, andscientists tell us that our
galaxy is moving through spaceand time at a great rate of
speed.
And it's interesting how we'rein the Milky Way, but also in a
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familiar country, the UnitedStates, and you're in your room
and you're certainly in yourmind and not out of it, and it's
so interesting how we can be inone place and yet another at
the same time and so justallowing your mind to relax and
find that peace and calm,following along, or just
allowing yourself to go evendeeper.
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There is no wrong or right wayit's just what's for you.
And so, just taking a deepbreath in and slowly exhaling
and allowing normal, naturalrhythm of breathing to occur,
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and there's a sense of breathingto occur, and there's a sense
of just letting go, that it'sall okay to let go now, that
this is the time and the spaceBecoming more comfortable and
aligned, more relaxed, andremembering, as you open your
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mind to positive thoughts, ideas, positive attitudes, allowing
your subconscious mind the timeand the space to absorb, to
assimilate, to integrate eachpositive thought, creating your
own strong, positive attitude,setting the intention that
you're establishing the positive.
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And all you need to do is becomfortable and relaxed, slowing
down, going within, lookinginside and remembering that
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negative events of the past canno longer affect you.
You see them as they areoverdone and gone, knowing that
feeling, amazing, feeling thatstress leaving your mind and
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your body.
And the best way to think aboutthe past over, done and gone,
every day being a new day, apositive day, and moving into
the future with the attitude ofself-assurance, liking yourself
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better and better each andpositive changes in the future.
More and more.
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Liking yourself each and everyday in new and positive ways,
allowing these positives, theattitude, the self-assurance,
liking yourself, becoming moreimportant now than ever before,
drifting down, allowing thesuggestions to absorb into the
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deeper mind, becoming apermanent part of the being.
Liking yourself, feeling thatnew confidence, becoming a
permanent part more and moreeach day.
The attitude, theself-assurance, very important.
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Some might call it confidence,some might call it joy, some
might call it security.
Finding those positiveattributes and enjoying them.
Finding those positiveattributes and enjoying them,
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enjoying yourself, new attitude,new security, new body
awareness, permanently replacedby strong positive thoughts.
And so, each and every day, youwill have strengthened the
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filter that blocks the negativesand you'll be less affected by
negatives around you because youremove them by facing them,
always, replacing them withpositives.
That's where your control liesLiking yourself, confident,
self-assured, finding thosepositive attributes and enjoying
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them.
New attitude, more positiveabout the future, positive about
the direction you're taking.
Liking yourself more and moreeach day, feeling more empowered
as you go, because it's moreimportant to be more important
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to yourself, more now than everbefore, always looking for more
ways to feel more positive andconfident, self-assured and
secured about yourself, in yourbody, in your mind, in your life
.
And so now, when you knowyou're ready to start a brand
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new chapter in a new life, in anew body, when you're ready and
you know when you're ready youopen your eyes, feeling
fantastic.
5.
Feeling amazing, feeling on topof the world.
Speaker 3 (37:15):
So at zero.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
We're going to let it all settle in what you've heard
today and at one feeling everyday 3.
It's a new day in your life, anew you, a positive direction.
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4.
Coming back to where you placedyourself in the room and 5.
Wide awake and alert.
1, 2, 3, 4, 5.
Feeling, amazing, feeling ontop of the world.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
Okay, nothing too wild, right definitely made me
want to take a nap.
I was very relaxed.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
That's that rest and digest.
We know our body is right whereit wants to be because it feels
so good.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
I felt super relaxed.
I don't know, did you guys feelrelaxed?
How did everybody else feel?
Speaker 4 (38:30):
I was very relaxed, oh very.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
I could have laid on the floor.
I should have started on thefloor.
Speaker 2 (38:45):
Yeah, so.
So nothing scary, nothing likeit's, it's just a feel-good
space.
I always imagine when, when Igo and look, I do self-hypnosis,
I do hypnosis on family members, sometimes when they ask me to,
and to me it's just like oh, Iget to go into my cocoon.
This is the place where, like,I just go within me and I'm
surrounded by all of this likewarmth and comfort, and like I
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get to be reminded, like how,how good it feels, but how
amazing I am because I get tosee myself in a different way
that we don't normally get tosee out in the world like we
don't usually have everybodytelling us how safe and amazing
it is out there.
Yeah, yeah, so hopefully thisway, you know, and, as I said,
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like the more you do it, you'llbe able to go in faster, I know,
and oftentimes, if this is thefirst time you've ever done it,
you might be like, okay, why isshe slowing down?
Or like, where do we go next?
Right, our brain wants to talkto us and it's like it's okay if
it talks to us, and then youjust pick back up where my voice
is and you keep going.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
You can't do it wrong .
I honestly, I I don't know howmany years ago it was now but I
took a meditation class whichsounds weird, but it was just
something.
I was just I saw it and I'mlike I'm doing that and it was
now.
But I took a meditation classwhich sounds weird, but it was
just something.
I was just I saw it and I'mlike I'm doing that and it was a
group thing in the evening andit was basically a lead
meditation group that we did, Ithink, for like a month or me
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eight weeks, I don't remember.
But since that because I wasnever Jeff's big meditator, I
was not I find that I can get tothat inner space really fast.
Even you know, with you, withmyself, if I just sit and go,
I'm going to meditate for fiveminutes, I can, like I can drop
in so fast, whereas prior tothat it was just.
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I guess it was like you said,it was something that I learned.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
So it was a feeling that I learned, and so now I
know that, you know, I know whenI'm there, I guess these
feelings are really good too,because, like when life gets
really busy, like we'reentrepreneurs and we've got
families to take care of, likewe've got jobs to go to, it can
get wild.
And what's really cool aboutlike when the outer world is
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pushing us too hard?
Sometimes we like I was like oh, I'm kind of far away from that
feel-good feeling that I'm soused that I know that I can get
to.
That's like a cue to me.
That's like, oh, I need to, Ineed to do some hypnosis.
I'll call my own hypnotherapistand say, hey, we need to tune
up.
I need to get close to me againand you know, I know, that my
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body is saying hey.
I want to be back in that space, even if it's just for five or
10 minutes, right, so it's it'sreally helpful it can be if you
get used to how that feelingfeels for you and becoming aware
of like, ooh, I'm feeling alittle bit burnt out.
Speaker 1 (41:38):
I might need to do some self-care.
Yeah, I think my feeling issimilar to what you described,
which is I get real heavy, likeit feels, but it's that really
good heavy Like I'm just likereally settled in.
So, erica, we had talked aboutcoming.
You're coming back.
On what day in January did wedecide it was the 2nd?
Speaker 2 (42:00):
2nd of January for the holiday overeating reset
yeah.
And 16 January for the goalsetting jumpstart yeah, okay,
good.
Speaker 1 (42:10):
It's funny.
I mean, ideally I wanteverybody to come through the
holidays not feeling like theyneed a reset.
That's the whole goal.
Holidays not feeling like theyneed a reset, that's the whole
goal.
But at the same time it doesn'thurt to go.
You know, am I having somesubconscious thoughts that I
don't even realize?
Are there things that are sortof driving me that I aren't
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typical Like?
My experience last week wasjust with chocolate and it took
me a minute to realize that thisis just a big no for me.
Speaker 2 (42:37):
I did the same thing last week.
That's so interesting.
I hadn't had an ice cream inlike probably six months, but
it's a very slippery slope rightso.
I was like okay, I'm done, Likeno more.
Speaker 1 (42:51):
Yeah, and I referred, I did my podcast on it this
week and I referred to it aseating instigators, like
understanding.
You know people call themtrigger foods, but it's really
an eating instigator, right?
It's a food that then sort ofopens the floodgates for you to
go.
Well, I think I'm going to havemore of that, or, now that I
have that, I think I'm going tohave this and it's just that
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instigator.
So what is the?
What is the?
If you can put your finger onthe instigator that sort of sets
you off in sort of a directionthat you're not typically on
these days.
It's good just to understandthat.
Like, what are those thingsthat are driving that behavior?
So I think that holiday resetis a kind of a good way to sort
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of check in and go.
Are there any things that arekind of lingering?
I also kind of refer to it asare there any of my sometimes
foods that have sort of shiftedover and I'm eating as my almost
most of the time foods whenthey shouldn't be there.
They should be over in thatsometimes category.
So last week those fancychocolates were definitely
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flooding into my most of thetime food and I was like this is
not okay.
Speaker 2 (44:01):
Yeah, you know it's interesting because, like with
one ice cream in six months,that's no big deal.
Speaker 1 (44:07):
Right.
Like we're allowed, like we canallow ourselves.
Your body can handle thatSometimes.
Speaker 2 (44:12):
But, like you said, it led to going to see Wicked
and we had like popcorn andgreasy pieces and like raisinets
.
And then I started to feel so,even before I noticed, about the
food.
I was like I had a feeling oflike guilt and I was like.
And then I asked myself like,why do I feel guilty about that?
(44:33):
And it was like oh, becauseyou're allowing yourself to take
part in foods that you knowlike that's not really part of
your plan.
Speaker 1 (44:41):
Well, and you made a choice that you weren't going to
do those things.
Speaker 2 (44:44):
Most of the time it sabotaged my plan and and then I
felt like really guilt is I'vedone something wrong, and it's
like oh, the guilt is there forgood reason, because I went
against my plan.
Yeah, you know, I went againstmy protocol, right, and I have
this bigger goal, right.
And so it's like oh, let mereevaluate.
Speaker 1 (45:06):
Right, so your brain is?
It is so it is.
It is sort of that red flag andit's going this is something
you want to look at.
You may feel this guilt, whichwe, you know, know you don't
need to feel, but why so?
It's a, it's one of thosecheckpoints.
It's like why do I feel thisguilt?
What is my brain trying to tellme?
It's saying you have a plan, soyou know, recognize, you know
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what you're doing and how you'renot on your plan or whatever.
Yeah, it's it is.
Speaker 2 (45:34):
it's really cool, like I Like I've practiced all
of this so much, like the lifecoaching and the hypnosis and
stuff that I'm very aware, LikeI don't a lot.
A lot of people do pair guiltand shame together, but I never
shame myself Like I'm not badfor eating chocolate.
I just did something against myplan Right.
Speaker 3 (45:55):
I love that distinction.
Speaker 2 (45:58):
Doing that against my plan, like I'm not a bad person
, I'm just, I just ate chocolate.
I I sabotaged myselfessentially, um.
So it's really cool when youstart doing this deeper work
that, like you get your braindoes.
The subconscious says wait aminute, that's not our plan.
So it sends that little redflag and for me it sends it
through an emotion Of course.
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Yeah, look at that emotion andlike okay what are we doing?
Speaker 1 (46:23):
that's such a good point though.
I mean I love that, thedistinction between guilt and
shame.
So the guilt is sort of yourbrain checking in with you.
It's going red flag over here,let's think about this.
And the shame is that spiral ofself-judgment that is just
useless and, in fact,detrimental Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (46:43):
Yeah, it's like doing I did something bad is very
different from I am bad yeah.
Speaker 1 (46:49):
We are just about out of time.
Speaker 4 (46:52):
Sarah, Susan, anything you want to add, susan,
anything you want to add.
I just want to say that I amreally glad this was recorded,
because I would like to be ableto go back and, you know, do it
again, and maybe if I do itenough times I can then do it
for myself.
But it's good to, you know,just be able to close my eyes
(47:17):
and hear your voice.
Speaker 1 (47:18):
Yeah, Well, and coming back on the second and
then on the 16th, we'll get awhole nother same thing, but
just a little bit of a differentnarrative, which here's a
question.
I, quite frankly, I don't thinkI listened to the narrative
like consciously I heard at thebeginning.
I heard your words, I heard thedirection on what to do with my
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hands and my fingers, but afterthat I wasn't really hearing
the words.
That's great.
Speaker 2 (47:47):
That's exactly you were in yeah, you're right.
Speaker 1 (47:50):
I got to my exit and I didn't realize it and I'm like
, oh look, here I am.
Speaker 2 (47:54):
The trigger words, like if I use a trigger word
like deep sleep, it doesn't meansleep, it just means relax more
.
If I use a trigger word wideawake, right, so you're gonna
hear certain words bringing youin and out of state.
Essentially, we're like a carthat we're just shifting gears
in your brain and hypnosis islike this super learning state
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it's an ultra learning state.
This is why we don't hypnotizebabies like their.
Speaker 3 (48:21):
Their brains are already running on here because
they're having to learn so muchin their first year, right like
so, um, us humans, our brainstates shift to a much like
lower frequency, and then wehave to intentionally shift our
brain gears well, what I'lloffer not as a downer but in
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contrast is uh, I'm cynical andI was trying, and my somatic
response was one of extremetightness in my head, probably
because for me, what that hasrepresented in the past is just
my intellect is beingcompromised in some way, and I
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might have had moments, but thechatter was very loud.
Speaker 2 (49:16):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (49:34):
And so it was.
I did not, like I said, I hadmaybe moments of calm, but I
think throughout there was stillthat sense of the vice clamp
which is not, which physicallyis a very unpleasant feeling.
Speaker 2 (49:44):
Yep, yep not, which, physically, is a very unpleasant
feeling.
Yeah, yeah, because the fear ofthe threat, the loss of control
, is there.
Something, and so this is why Imade the suggestion to you to
find your right level of comfort, because I know some of you are
going to go right in, and soyou know I didn't even test you
guys as suggestibility today,and but I I assume that we have
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several differentsuggestibilities in the room,
and so the suggestions I'mgiving you kind of speak to all
of you yeah, I was like I likewhat she's saying.
Speaker 3 (50:17):
But then there was there.
I was like, yeah, fuck thatyeah there was like this sure,
there was just this fight goingyeah, for you it's.
Speaker 2 (50:25):
It's just not quite safe enough and that's okay,
because we have to go on our own, on our with our, you know, not
too fast, not, you know, you'relike, I just met you right.
So if there's some maybebuilding that relationship and
and that familiarity and and asyou get more comfortable
practicing this for yourself,you may find that you can go
(50:47):
deeper at some point.
But maybe you won't and that'sokay, do you, sarah?
Speaker 1 (50:51):
do you meditate at all?
Speaker 3 (50:54):
I have in the past and I've always enjoyed it.
I don't.
I mean, I do find it assomething like I, I I find it an
experiment to see if I can justcalm my mind.
I mean it'll, yeah, they'll.
They'll inevitably be like oh,I'm making a grocery list and I
don't have a.
(51:14):
We all have monkey minds.
Mine's not super over the topall the time like I.
I have um heard from people whothey absolutely cannot meditate
because it scares the heck outof them to try and wrangle their
thinking at all.
So I have found, when I havemeditated, like it's very
(51:35):
enjoyable.
And again, it's not that Idon't know you, there's
something just inherently aboutthis, because there's a whole
lot of things that you're sayingthat are all familiar
terminology.
I mean, I'm very familiar withthe nervous system and I'm very
you know, I mean all of thingsthat you're saying that are all
familiar terminology.
I mean, I'm very familiar withum, the nervous system, and I'm
very you know, I mean all thesethings that you're blending in
and that's all you know.
It sounds sort of like emdr, avariation of you know um.
(51:55):
So all of it makes sense.
But even again, like, as we'retalking, like there is just
something right here, that'sjust and it for me.
And again, if we get into alllike the spiritual, like you
know, there's somethingintellectually which I think a
lot of us it's not just auniqueness to my household, I
(52:16):
think, particularly in the Westwe have always been taught to
you know, know, really praiseintellect, and so even
rationally and emotionally I canunderstand it.
But there's something, there'ssomething that my intellect is
like.
This isn't working.
Speaker 1 (52:37):
This is the only way I can describe it and that's
interesting because for me it'sthe kind of the opposite.
I'm like I don't feel like Ieven tap into a smidgen of the
intellect that's available to meand that being able to get into
my subconscious mind to me ishow I believe that I actually
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will learn more or, in um,internalize more or whatever.
I feel like I I feel likethat's a place that I have so
closed off and then I'm like ifI could just get in there.
So that to me is this this tome is somewhat of access to
something that I can't typicallydo by myself.
Speaker 2 (53:22):
That makes sense yeah , there's no wrong way here,
like I.
It's like I'm reading hersuggestibility just a little bit
, based on some of the thingsshe said, and there's nothing
wrong here, yeah.
So I would say take all thegood from it that you want and
that you can and let the rest go.
(53:42):
There's like you know, we're allgoing to process it differently
.
You may look back in a fewweeks of working together and be
like I've.
You know I've been feeling alittle bit more or less anxious,
or I've been feeling like I'mgetting a little more from it.
You might not.
You also might.
So just being open, willing,courageous, these are the things
(54:04):
that I think make successfuladults.
Speaker 1 (54:06):
You know like susan, did you have a question?
Speaker 4 (54:10):
I just wanted to say one thing, and that's that I I
think I would, as I was goingdeeper, I think I just kept
coming up because I was, I wasum, not wanting to forget what
you said, and I so I repeated itin my head, but I think I was
(54:32):
um, so my, I would say myconscious mind was wanting to
make sure that that or somethingor stayed with me, or something
.
Yeah, and you know, I'mthinking that in the future I
should really be able to justnot have to, not have to engage
(54:53):
my conscious mind and justlisten and let it yeah, I don't
know be absorbed by mysubconscious is the best thing,
yeah I mean, I'm very much likesarah.
Speaker 2 (55:06):
Um, like again, I shared with you guys a little
bit just about my you know, ummy past and um, I am very like
hyper vigilance is the name ofthe game for me and very
intellectual and, um, I totallyget that.
I I there were many times whereI sat for it.
(55:27):
It took me a while to like gain, you know, trust in the process
.
So, yeah, let it just bewhatever.
However fast or slow it needsto be, there's no wrong way.
What was it that clicked inyour head, though, when you went
with your friend to sign her upand then she didn't sign up but
you signed?
Speaker 1 (55:41):
way.
What was it that clicked inyour head, though, when you went
with your friend to sign her up, and then she didn't sign up,
but you signed up.
What was that?
What was that moment whereyou're like?
Speaker 2 (55:50):
this is for me so mine's a little bit more
personal um it.
Um I was, you know, I got outof the military, I was
struggling with complex ptsd byall accounts, I was suicidal and
um, so I was actually havinglike some spiritual experiences
(56:10):
and really just having like anexistential crisis.
I think and um, I don't know.
I don't remember like the exactmoment where I was like I need
to be here, but I think it wassomething like I need to know
how the brain works.
I need to be here, but I thinkit was something like I need to
know how the brain works.
I need to know how, what am Iexperiencing?
Like what I am experiencing.
How is my brain allowing thatto be processed?
(56:33):
Like how is this coming into my, into my how, into my
experience?
Speaker 1 (56:39):
so I was like I'm going to surround myself with
all these mental healthprofessionals and I'm going to
learn how our brain is able todo this and what this all means,
and, um it, like I said, itsaved my life yeah, I think it's
really interesting and just thedifferent parts of the brain
and what you know when that,when that primitive brain takes
(57:00):
over, and just the awareness,just the simple awareness of
being able to know when ourprimitive brain is running the
show.
It's just, first of all,knowing there's there's two
things there's your primitivebrain and then there's your
modern brain, and then thenbeing able to go oh my god, my
reptile brain is totally tryingto take over now.
And just that awareness, ithelps you kind of jump back into
(57:23):
your modern thinking brain thehypnosis world um.
Speaker 2 (57:27):
We always say that I desensitization.
We don't call it emdr, but itwas like the original emdr and
then it was um.
So it's like mental healthprofessionals have.
They call it one thing and thenhypnotherapists call it another
thing.
We call it eye fascination.
But essentially it's the samework and it uses the same parts
(57:49):
of the brain and it's so coolhow gentle it is hypnosis,
because it's not like it doesn'tre-traumatize, right.
So it's so gentle.
It's not like you're going towalk out and be like, oh, you
know, it's a brand new day,right.
But what happens is you canlook back.
(58:09):
So like when I look back 10years ago in my life, versus
like the abundance I have now,who I am in my confidence, like
what I've created.
I can see the evidence of thehypnosis working, so it's very
interesting just how gentle theprocess is.
(58:31):
I want to say thank you so muchfor having me.
I loved getting to meet youguys.
I hope to see you again, sothank you, thanks for coming.
Speaker 1 (58:40):
Thanks for sharing so good.
Thanks for coming.
Thanks for sharing.
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Music.
Welcome to the Simplicity of Wellness podcast.
I'm your host, board-certifiedholistic nutritionist and
professional life coach, amyWhite.
The purpose of this podcast isto share information that you
can use to become leaner,stronger and healthier by losing
weight, shedding inches,maintaining muscle and managing
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your mind, all while living yournormal busy life in this modern
, sugar-filled world.
Hello, simplifiers, today'spodcast is a little bit
different than my previouspodcast.
Today I'm going to post a groupcoaching call that I did with a
guest coach.
This guest coach specializes inhypnotherapy.
(00:44):
During this group call shetakes us through a hypnotherapy
session.
For that reason, I'm going toput a disclaimer at the
beginning of this podcast.
Please do not listen to thispodcast when you're driving or
operating heavy equipment ordoing any task that requires
your full attention and focus.
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The best time to listen to thisweek's podcast will be when you
are at home in a comfortableplace.
So let's start withintroductions so that people
understand who you are, what youdo, how it's different, and I
guess that'll kind of explainitself when you kind of explain
what we're doing.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Yes, so I'm Erica Antonetti.
Kind of explain what we'redoing.
Yes, so I'm Erica Antonetti.
I'm a certified hypnotherapist,a life coach and a CEO of
Premier Hypnotherapy ofSacramento, out here in
California, and I help peoplemake changes through the power
of their subconscious mind,since that's the most powerful
part of our brain, but noteverybody knows how to use it
(01:43):
okay, so basically tapping intoour subconscious so that we
aren't intentionally orunintentionally doing things
that we are unaware of.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Is that how that kind of work?
Speaker 2 (01:54):
yeah, so I got a diagram.
I'll break this down, but firstI want to ask what is
everybody's perception ofhypnosis, what have you heard
about it or what do you thinkyou know about it, or what have
you experienced with it?
Speaker 1 (02:09):
before.
My only experience was incollege.
They had a hypnotherapist comein and I just remember thinking
oh, this is a bad thing, I can'tvolunteer because I'll do
something super stupid or reallyembarrassing.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
that that has been my perception of hypnosis yeah,
and it's a common thing, becauseVegas, you know Vegas they have
us up here clucking likechickens and they want to show
people.
You know things, but show thelike.
Hollywood and the movies arevery different from reality.
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We know that if we've ever, youknow, seen nurses portrayed and
the movies are very differentfrom reality.
We know that if we've ever, youknow, seen nurses portrayed on
the movies, or military, or youknow, they tend to elaborate the
truth a little bit, and Vegasshows can be the same way.
So if anybody ever asks me if,like, are you going to make me
bark like a dog, I would say,well, why do you want to bark
like a dog?
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You can't make me do anythingyou don't want to do.
So, um, I had the same fears asyou when I first came to
hypnosis.
Um, I was served in themilitary and then, after I was
done with that, I was on ahealing journey and it led me to
hypnotherapy school, and Ialways tell people I actually
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went to help a friend sign up.
She wanted emotional support,like she didn't want to go into
this new environment alone, andI was like, okay, I'll make sure
they don't swindle you.
Like hypnotize you and swindleyou, you know, and all this
stuff.
And we went and she ended upnot signing up that day.
And I signed up and I alwayssay that hypnosis saved my life
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because, after um challengeswith PTSD, it, it saved my life.
It changed the whole way I sawthe world and, um, and the way
that I saw my own power, and so,um, I always say it's just
amazing and I wanted tounderstand how the brain worked
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and how the mind worked at adeeper level and, um, it allowed
me the space to do this.
So, um, what I will say abouthypnosis is you won't go to
sleep, you won't be unconscious.
There's no way to get stuck inhypnosis, because we naturally
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go into hypnosis two times a dayat the bare minimum, whether we
know it or not.
So it's not something you haveto believe in in order to do it.
There's no magic to it.
It's a psychological process,it's a somatic process that
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works with your body-mindconnection.
What else?
Pretty much everyone ishypnotizable.
We've often heard, oh, you'dhave to be vulnerable or super
suggestible or gullible or naivein order to be hypnotized.
That's not true.
According to I believe it's aStanford, it might be Harvard or
Stanford research.
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Everyone is hypnotizable.
You just have to talk to thosetwo people differently.
Hypnotizable you just have totalk to those two people
differently.
And because I know the power oflanguage, I'm able to.
I haven't never met anyone thatwasn't hypnotized in my office.
Um, I also have a white paper Iwant to share with you guys that
I will forward to you, amy andyou can share with people, um,
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and this is the um, the commonmedical issues that hypnosis has
been scientifically researchedto help with, like smoking,
weight loss, ibs, all kinds offun stuff.
So I will make sure to sharethis so that you guys can
actually see the science thatbacks this modality.
And then I mean, yeah, becauseit's a proven therapeutic
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process.
In California, hypnotherapistsare trained legal therapists for
vocational and avocational usefrom the DSM-5 or who has a
medical diagnosis.
We do have a process where weget referrals, medical referrals
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to work with those certainthings like PTSD or trauma,
stress, whatever.
That is Pretty much.
Hypnosis is a really naturalprocess.
Like I said, you go through itseveral times a day, one being
right before you wake up in themorning, like about 30 minutes
after you awake, your brain isstill kind of coming online and
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it's in this a very zen placeusually, and then sometimes it's
about 30 minutes before you goto bed, you start to shift into
a different gear, so to speak,and your mind's getting ready to
go to sleep and those are knownas the hypnagogic state.
So I'm going to do a little bitof teaching today, but not a
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whole lot, and I don't want toget boring.
But I don't know if you've evernoticed, if you've been driving
down the road and you werelistening to your favorite song
and you were like, oh my God.
I missed my exit or we got hereso fast it felt like it just
took a minute and it's becausewe were in autopilot, in
hypnosis.
We went that way so many timesthat our car we know exactly how
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to drive our car and jam out tothe music and we're not under
threat.
So we don't have to be likehyper alert and that's pretty
much a state of environmentalhypnosis.
Or if you've ever been inchurch and you just kept yawning
and you couldn't quit yawningand your butt hurts and you're
like, oh, my goodness, when's hegoing to be done, you're in a
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state of environmental hypnosis.
Or if you've ever been in amovie theater and you know that
the people are not real and theevent that's happening is not
real in that moment, and yetyou're moved to tears or you're
jumping out of fear, that'sbecause you've temporarily
suspended your critical factorin order to be entertained and
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you've gone into a state ofhypnosis oh, that's so
interesting and it right Whetheryou've ever cried in a movie or
been afraid.
it feels very real, but we knowit's not real.
But yet we're still able toaccess those emotions and those
feelings and those thoughtsaround this environment that we
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have put ourselves in.
So all of that is environmentalhypnosis.
It's very common.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
So I have a question, susan and Sarah have either of
you had any experience withhypnosis?
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Only when I heard patients that attempted it for
smoking cessation.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Sarah's a nurse.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Nice.
Oh, that's interesting becauseI used nurse as an example
earlier.
Speaker 4 (09:03):
Sorry, I've seen it in like shows.
Like you're talking about, amy,and also I did have a class
where a teacher it was amind-body class and a teacher
brought in a hypnotherapist andtook us through something, took
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us through something and, um, I,I don't like I came out of it.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
I mean, I didn't know if I went in it or came out
like do you know if you've been,you know, hypnotized, right?
Um, it feels different foreveryone.
Some people feel like the lighttingly sensation, or like
they're floating, or maybe likefeeling like a little bit of
like, like like kind of groggy.
Some people feel.
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I tend to feel very heavy, likemy body weighs a gazillion
pounds and in a really good way,like I'm in the most deep state
of comfort and I just don'twant to move because it feels so
good.
Deep state of comfort, I justdon't want to move because it
feels so good.
And then some people feelnothing physical sensations at
all, and and so, however youexperience, it is just right for
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you and it can change over time, and that's another reason why
we wanted to do this a few timeswith you, because it's with
anything in life, it's justunlearning the old and replacing
it with the new, and in orderto do that, we want to do
repetition right, becauseeverything that we do more than
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once or twice, we get better atas we do it.
So my goal for today was tointroduce you guys to me and
hypnosis and to do somethingthat's very not even associated
with weight loss or being, youknow, like super healthy.
It has no like really big goal.
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It's just like a feel goodsession where we want to just
positize you guys in the rightdirection, where we want to just
positize you guys in the rightdirection.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Is it possible to get comfortable with hypnosis, like
meeting with you a couple oftimes or however many times, to
a point where we can sort ofself-meditate and find our
hypnotic state?
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Absolutely, because once you start to feel what that
feels like for you, and thenyou'll hear me a few times and
you'll, you'll kind of know,like, how this goes right.
So, um, you'll kind of like itsounds a lot like meditation,
but I think the differencebetween hypnosis and meditation
is meditation is very passive.
It wants you to empty out yourthoughts, which?
can be really challengingbecause our brains have a lot to
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say all the time abouteverything.
And with hypnosis I say it'slike meditation.
It feels good like that, butit's meditation with a purpose.
And so you're going to beactive and I will be directing
you to be doing something inyour brain and you'll be focused
on that.
And so, where a lot of peoplequit meditation, because I just
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can't do it or they thinkthey're doing it wrong.
Hypnosis can be a really greatsegue into the.
The like more mind ninja,meditation, stuff later on down
the road.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
yeah, I love that um meditation, a purpose that
really pushes my buttons.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
This is just a quick explanation.
It's not if you're allscientists like we would have a
very different conversation if Ihad a neuroscientist sitting in
front of me but for the layman,we give you just like the bare
bones, basic science andpsychology of it all.
So let me see here, yeah, solet's just say this is your
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brain and this is going torepresent what we call the
theory of mind.
And so we have.
You know, you've heard thatwhen children are born we start
with a blank slate, right, it'snot new.
And we have this part down herein our brain that's called the
primitive part of our brain.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
We can see it totally .
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Yeah, and that's the amygdala.
If you're aware of what theamygdala is?
It processes our threat in ourenvironment and it keeps us
alive.
Its prime directive is to keepus surviving, and so it has.
Its job is to keep us alive andit screens our environment for
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threat.
And we have fight, flight orfreeze or fawn, and essentially
this is how you deal with thestress of living everyday stress
in modern day.
Well, let's just say, incaveman days, fight would have
been like I see a tiger, I havea club in my hand, I can beat
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the tiger down in order tosurvive.
And in modern day it's anxiety.
I have to go to work, I've gotthis deadline, I've got to go to
college, I've got this debt,you know, project do, and you're
just in the fight every day,trying to stay alive.
And then flight is there's atiger, I'm far enough away from
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it, I can run and I can escape.
And that might look like modernday depression.
It's like I just can't do thisjob at corporate another day.
I'm going to take a nap instead.
So we've got anxiety,depression, and then the last
one would be freeze, and that'swhat we know as modern day
procrastination if the threat isis so close, we can't get away.
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We just roll over and play deadand um, that's actually yeah.
So we'll just fight, flight orfreeze, that's anxiety
depression and procrastination.
Um, and procrastination can havea positive um.
It can have a positive on us,dep.
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Positive on us depends, like,if we have a lot of us women, we
love to make lists in order tokeep our lives running in order,
and If you have 20 things onthe list, you might get to
number three or four and thenyou're just like, okay, I'm done
, and that's a kind of abuilt-in survival mechanism so
that we don't burn out.
So in that way procrastinationcan serve us because it says now
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just take a break, you've doneenough for today and we'll pick
it back up tomorrow.
But in some ways it can benon-beneficial to us.
And then we have to kind ofwork on why are we stalling on
this thing that's so importantto us?
So from about zero to nine yearsold, all children hear
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everything that they hear.
They take it in as absolutetruth and that's why we believe
that.
You know, superman can fly.
And we, you know, we see ourlittle five-year-olds jumping
off the couch and pretendingthey're superman or they.
Why they believe in santa clausand the tooth fairy.
Because they don't have thatcritical filter built yet enough
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in their mind or in their brainin order to, um, be able to
decipher what's true and what'snot, and, um, yeah, so they take
that in as absolute truth.
And then, around nine years old, we kind of build this critical
filter.
Now, everything that we'vetaken in is absolute truth.
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It could be like my brothersays I'm stupid, or my mother
says I'm special, or my mothersays I'm special.
And it could be like I lovecake on my birthday but I hate
spinach.
Or I love hugs and kisses but Ihate to be kicked in spanked.
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Or I love cats because they'reso cuddly but got bit by a dog.
So this here is our knownassociations and what we learn
is good, bad, and and thisbecomes our subconscious mind.
Now our subconscious mind isabout 88 to 90 percent of our
total brain power.
It, it's the storehouse for allof our knowns, of our
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experience of the world and allthe people and all the ideas and
things we've come across.
And some of you might be awarethat this is also where the like
, the pleasure, the painpleasure principle comes from.
So, like in cases of domesticviolence, violence, we ask why
does a woman stay?
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And it's well, she's all she's.
Only now she maybe she wasraised in a domestic violence
household and she only knowslove to be this type of way,
controlling, abusive, whatever.
And so we would, as ahypnotherapist, we've got to
kind of make that a negative forher so that she can change her
life if she's not happy.
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And what happens here is thisbecomes your known, this is all
your knowns.
So this is where you hear, like, the fear of the unknown,
anything unknown to the brain,it's not going to go toward it.
And this is where all yourstorehouse for emotions,
memories, this is where thetrauma kind of gets stored, but
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especially down here, around theprimitive part of the brain.
So up here is your consciousmind.
It's 10% of your total brainpower, but it's the part that
everyone thinks that we're allusing all the time, like every,
we all tend to think, oh, I'lljust make the decision and I'll
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just go do it, and that's a partof it, because it all works
together.
But, as you can see, it's notthe part that that really
motivates you to do anything,and that's why.
Well, let me go back.
The conscious mind is made up ofour logic, our reasoning,
analyzation skills, willpower,and you know it's, it's pretty
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much the thing that helps us tobalance the checkbook every
month.
Um, when we have a thought likeI want to lose 20 pounds, the
thought will go in in the way weprocess it, through our
conscious mind, our neocortex,and it's going to have to go
through the critical filter andgo check in with the
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subconscious.
And if you maybe grew up in asedentary family where nobody
worked out, you might go to thegym for two weeks on January 1st
and then you're going to runright back into old patterns and
habits, because that's what'srunning the show.
It's going to kick that thoughtright back out of the brain and
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you're going to.
You know, have paid for a gymmembership and not even gone the
whole year, like we've all seenit before when we want to make
like New Year's resolutions.
So what we do in hypnosis is webypass the critical filter, we
open the door and then we go inand we change those.
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Whatever it is you want tochange, we change those to
positives and we close it backup and then your patterns change
, your behavior changes.
Now, it's not a magic pill,because obviously you've got a.
It's nothing I can make you dowithout you wanting to to do it.
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You know it's um, but we do itthrough hypnotic suggestions
that are positive, that are whatwe've already agreed on, that
you want to work on.
And, of course, how it relatesto this group is Y'all are on a
journey for a healthy, healthierbody and healthier lifestyle,
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and so those positivesuggestions would be tied to
that.
Pretty much how it works, likethat's the magic of it, and it
has to do with yourparasympathetic system and your
sympathetic system.
Right, like if your sympatheticsystem is activated, that means
you're in fight, flight orfreeze.
You know, we know how the bodyresponds.
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I always say that thisprimitive part of your body is
like the emergency room and wedon't want to be in the
emergency room more than like10% of our whole life.
You know it's like if you wantto.
You know if you get a toughdiagnosis or something, you want
to be able to handle it, butyou don't want to stay there.
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So we want to engage yourparasympathetic system so that
you're in that.
You know restful space, thatcalm space in your body, so that
you can make decisions and makechanges that you want to make.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
That was really cool, very interesting.
I loved how you put the fight,flight and freeze from primitive
to modern, but the fight,flight and freeze from primitive
to modern.
It was really interesting tosee the anxiety, the depression
and the procrastination justbroken out.
I was like, oh that's sointeresting.
And I loved, your.
I love when you said roll overand play dead, right, that's
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procrastination.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
We're freezing, we're just like, ok, I'm just going
to pretend, if no one can see me, that this is not a thing.
Yeah, because we're, like, weall deal with daily stress and,
like you know, I feel liketime's even moving.
I like, I just feel like it'sgotten, you know, it's more
stress right yeah, yeah and yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
All the things right but you think and all that.
So one of the big things thathappens with my group when
everybody starts managing theirfood in a way that's kind of
working for their body andthey're feeling better is that
anxiety goes away, so that thatyou know we come out of that
fight mode.
I have to think a lot moreabout this, with the anxiety and
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the and the fight, because Ialways talk about traditional
weight loss as being this fightagainst your body, and then what
we're doing is we're learninghow to work with our body.
So we're coming out of thatfight mode and we're going into
that sort of calm space that youdescribed.
Yeah, that's so interesting andit's just one of those things
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that I don't often tie in forpeople is this idea about
calming anxiety.
But my daughter made a reallygood point with me the other day
.
She's 31 and she said her themillennials, they are body
positive, it's a body positivegroup.
They're like it's not aboutweight for them.
They're like yeah, you know Ilove the way I look and you know
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, whatever it is, she goes.
Their focus is all about theiranxiety.
She goes mom, I don't know oneperson, aside from myself and
her husband who isn't on anxietymedicine.
She's like everybody's onanxiety medication, even more
than one and and so I was justlike, yeah, that's so
interesting because they don'tknow how to manage that
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sympathetic nervous system andthey have this crazy level of
anxiety, which is so interesting.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
So, anyway, I'm a millennial so I feel that so
hard.
I'm not on anxiety medicine butthat's because I went.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
Well, you've learned how to work with your mind.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
And it is interesting about the body because I was
like I've always, you know, I'mlike I was raised in the South
and their ways can be a littledifferent than how we do things
out West.
You know, like every area inour country is like like
regionally different.
It has its differences andcultural differences and, um, so
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I was raised like doingpageants, you know, and, uh,
being a child performer,entertainer, singer, dancer, so
looks were very important, but Iwas not raised with like I
didn't, we didn't diet in myhousehold, we didn't step on the
scale.
It was like, oh, we just likelearned a lot, like we just
loved our bodies.
And then we didn't have anythoughts about our body being
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against us.
So, it never was, and then when?
I went into the military whereit was very body focused, very
like.
It was wild as far as like theywould break out the measuring
tapes and if your waist is not acertain type, you know it's
certain amount it it.
And so it's like then I startedhaving body issues and I'm like
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it's because my thoughts aboutmy body, my body, precisely yeah
so that's the power of the mind, right?
it's like what we focus onfollows so are we focusing on
the negative or are we focusingon the positive?
Are we accepting what we cancontrol?
Are we accepting what we can'tcontrol?
you know, where are we takingpersonal responsibility?
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It's all.
It's kind of all a dance, right, yeah, okay, so our first, um,
little experience I'm gonna haveyou guys do is we're going to
do like Charlie's Angels here,we're going to dance here and
clap them together and giveourselves a little gun, okay.
And then I want you to likepull your fingers out wide and
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so that you can look and putthem, you know right eye level,
and go ahead and just focus onthose fingers and yep, there you
go and just stare at the spacein between those fingers and
keep focused on them now andlooking at the tips of your
fingers as they start to cometogether in little jerky motions
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.
Now keep focused, keep focused,keep focused on the tips of your
fingers.
That's right.
It's interesting, Almost likehow a string is just pulling
them closer and closer together,closer and closer.
And just imagine that hypnosisfeeling the fingertips now and
feel the fingers coming togethernow and allow that hypnosis,
once they touch, to go downthrough the fingers, letting
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them touch, letting them movecloser and closer, closer and
closer, in little jerky motions.
And we'll wait for everyone toget there.
That's right, because sometimesit's a little slower, sometimes
it's a little faster.
And just allowing that tohappen now, that's right, very
good.
And as you allow thosefingertips to touch, allow that
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hypnosis to go down through thefingers and into the knuckles
and into the palms of the handsand into the wrists and the
elbows and the shoulders, andallowing that hypnosis to move
up the neck and down over theback of the head and over the
front of the face and theforehead, and allowing that
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hypnosis to trickle down overthe eyes and the eyes may want
to blink.
That's a natural, normal thing,and just feeling that hypnosis,
no matter how it feels to you,there's no wrong way to do it.
And just imagine your eyesbecoming heavier and heavier,
heavier and heavier, and itmight feel right to close your
eyes becoming heavier andheavier, heavier and heavier,
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and it might feel right to closeyour eyes and just allow them
to lock into place now, that'sright and allow every nerve and
muscle to relax, from the top ofyour head 10, to the top of
your toes nine, eight.
Feeling that hypnosis flowthrough your body all the way
down, touching every fiber, cell, muscle, nerve.
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That's right, allowing it totouch and relax To find that
comfort, that hypnosis, all theway down.
Feeling it drifting ten timesdeeper, deeper, as it moves down
, deeper into your body,drifting deeper now, allowing it
to go down to the hips and theknees, if it hasn't already,
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down to the calves and the feet.
And you can drop your hands ifthat feels more comfortable, or
you can stay right where you'reat and enjoy that feeling of
hypnosis and, as you notice thatcalm and that peace, however
that relaxation feels to you,you can go to that special place
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, that place that feels justright in your body, that place
that feels clear and calm, withevery heartbeat and every breath
, and just enjoy being thereright now and finding that
comfort level that's best foryou, at 10 times as deep, 20
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times as deep, 30 times as deep,and as you relax more and more
and you listen to the sound ofmy voice, it's interesting to
notice the state of mind thatyou walked into the room with
and the state of calm andrelaxation that you might be in
right now, or the state ofwondering.
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And yet it's interesting whenyou're wandering in your mind
and you're in this room andyou've gone out of the room in
your mind and it's all veryinteresting.
And whether you're right hereor far away, allowing it all to
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be is just right.
And it's interesting how we canbe in this room.
But we can be traveling in ourminds, coming in one state of
mind and going out another, andscientists tell us that our
galaxy is moving through spaceand time at a great rate of
speed.
And it's interesting how we'rein the Milky Way, but also in a
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familiar country, the UnitedStates, and you're in your room
and you're certainly in yourmind and not out of it, and it's
so interesting how we can be inone place and yet another at
the same time and so justallowing your mind to relax and
find that peace and calm,following along, or just
allowing yourself to go evendeeper.
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There is no wrong or right wayit's just what's for you.
And so, just taking a deepbreath in and slowly exhaling
and allowing normal, naturalrhythm of breathing to occur,
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and there's a sense of breathingto occur, and there's a sense
of just letting go, that it'sall okay to let go now, that
this is the time and the spaceBecoming more comfortable and
aligned, more relaxed, andremembering, as you open your
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mind to positive thoughts, ideas, positive attitudes, allowing
your subconscious mind the timeand the space to absorb, to
assimilate, to integrate eachpositive thought, creating your
own strong, positive attitude,setting the intention that
you're establishing the positive.
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And all you need to do is becomfortable and relaxed, slowing
down, going within, lookinginside and remembering that
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negative events of the past canno longer affect you.
You see them as they areoverdone and gone, knowing that
feeling, amazing, feeling thatstress leaving your mind and
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your body.
And the best way to think aboutthe past over, done and gone,
every day being a new day, apositive day, and moving into
the future with the attitude ofself-assurance, liking yourself
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better and better each andpositive changes in the future.
More and more.
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Liking yourself each and everyday in new and positive ways,
allowing these positives, theattitude, the self-assurance,
liking yourself, becoming moreimportant now than ever before,
drifting down, allowing thesuggestions to absorb into the
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deeper mind, becoming apermanent part of the being.
Liking yourself, feeling thatnew confidence, becoming a
permanent part more and moreeach day.
The attitude, theself-assurance, very important.
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Some might call it confidence,some might call it joy, some
might call it security.
Finding those positiveattributes and enjoying them.
Finding those positiveattributes and enjoying them,
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enjoying yourself, new attitude,new security, new body
awareness, permanently replacedby strong positive thoughts.
And so, each and every day, youwill have strengthened the
(35:47):
filter that blocks the negativesand you'll be less affected by
negatives around you because youremove them by facing them,
always, replacing them withpositives.
That's where your control liesLiking yourself, confident,
self-assured, finding thosepositive attributes and enjoying
(36:07):
them.
New attitude, more positiveabout the future, positive about
the direction you're taking.
Liking yourself more and moreeach day, feeling more empowered
as you go, because it's moreimportant to be more important
(36:34):
to yourself, more now than everbefore, always looking for more
ways to feel more positive andconfident, self-assured and
secured about yourself, in yourbody, in your mind, in your life
.
And so now, when you knowyou're ready to start a brand
(36:58):
new chapter in a new life, in anew body, when you're ready and
you know when you're ready youopen your eyes, feeling
fantastic.
5.
Feeling amazing, feeling on topof the world.
Speaker 3 (37:15):
So at zero.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
We're going to let it all settle in what you've heard
today and at one feeling everyday 3.
It's a new day in your life, anew you, a positive direction.
(37:44):
4.
Coming back to where you placedyourself in the room and 5.
Wide awake and alert.
1, 2, 3, 4, 5.
Feeling, amazing, feeling ontop of the world.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
Okay, nothing too wild, right definitely made me
want to take a nap.
I was very relaxed.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
That's that rest and digest.
We know our body is right whereit wants to be because it feels
so good.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
I felt super relaxed.
I don't know, did you guys feelrelaxed?
How did everybody else feel?
Speaker 4 (38:30):
I was very relaxed, oh very.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
I could have laid on the floor.
I should have started on thefloor.
Speaker 2 (38:45):
Yeah, so.
So nothing scary, nothing likeit's, it's just a feel-good
space.
I always imagine when, when Igo and look, I do self-hypnosis,
I do hypnosis on family members, sometimes when they ask me to,
and to me it's just like oh, Iget to go into my cocoon.
This is the place where, like,I just go within me and I'm
surrounded by all of this likewarmth and comfort, and like I
(39:07):
get to be reminded, like how,how good it feels, but how
amazing I am because I get tosee myself in a different way
that we don't normally get tosee out in the world like we
don't usually have everybodytelling us how safe and amazing
it is out there.
Yeah, yeah, so hopefully thisway, you know, and, as I said,
(39:29):
like the more you do it, you'llbe able to go in faster, I know,
and oftentimes, if this is thefirst time you've ever done it,
you might be like, okay, why isshe slowing down?
Or like, where do we go next?
Right, our brain wants to talkto us and it's like it's okay if
it talks to us, and then youjust pick back up where my voice
is and you keep going.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
You can't do it wrong .
I honestly, I I don't know howmany years ago it was now but I
took a meditation class whichsounds weird, but it was just
something.
I was just I saw it and I'mlike I'm doing that and it was
now.
But I took a meditation classwhich sounds weird, but it was
just something.
I was just I saw it and I'mlike I'm doing that and it was a
group thing in the evening andit was basically a lead
meditation group that we did, Ithink, for like a month or me
(40:10):
eight weeks, I don't remember.
But since that because I wasnever Jeff's big meditator, I
was not I find that I can get tothat inner space really fast.
Even you know, with you, withmyself, if I just sit and go,
I'm going to meditate for fiveminutes, I can, like I can drop
in so fast, whereas prior tothat it was just.
(40:32):
I guess it was like you said,it was something that I learned.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
So it was a feeling that I learned, and so now I
know that, you know, I know whenI'm there, I guess these
feelings are really good too,because, like when life gets
really busy, like we'reentrepreneurs and we've got
families to take care of, likewe've got jobs to go to, it can
get wild.
And what's really cool aboutlike when the outer world is
(40:58):
pushing us too hard?
Sometimes we like I was like oh, I'm kind of far away from that
feel-good feeling that I'm soused that I know that I can get
to.
That's like a cue to me.
That's like, oh, I need to, Ineed to do some hypnosis.
I'll call my own hypnotherapistand say, hey, we need to tune
up.
I need to get close to me againand you know, I know, that my
(41:25):
body is saying hey.
I want to be back in that space, even if it's just for five or
10 minutes, right, so it's it'sreally helpful it can be if you
get used to how that feelingfeels for you and becoming aware
of like, ooh, I'm feeling alittle bit burnt out.
Speaker 1 (41:38):
I might need to do some self-care.
Yeah, I think my feeling issimilar to what you described,
which is I get real heavy, likeit feels, but it's that really
good heavy Like I'm just likereally settled in.
So, erica, we had talked aboutcoming.
You're coming back.
On what day in January did wedecide it was the 2nd?
Speaker 2 (42:00):
2nd of January for the holiday overeating reset
yeah.
And 16 January for the goalsetting jumpstart yeah, okay,
good.
Speaker 1 (42:10):
It's funny.
I mean, ideally I wanteverybody to come through the
holidays not feeling like theyneed a reset.
That's the whole goal.
Holidays not feeling like theyneed a reset, that's the whole
goal.
But at the same time it doesn'thurt to go.
You know, am I having somesubconscious thoughts that I
don't even realize?
Are there things that are sortof driving me that I aren't
(42:32):
typical Like?
My experience last week wasjust with chocolate and it took
me a minute to realize that thisis just a big no for me.
Speaker 2 (42:37):
I did the same thing last week.
That's so interesting.
I hadn't had an ice cream inlike probably six months, but
it's a very slippery slope rightso.
I was like okay, I'm done, Likeno more.
Speaker 1 (42:51):
Yeah, and I referred, I did my podcast on it this
week and I referred to it aseating instigators, like
understanding.
You know people call themtrigger foods, but it's really
an eating instigator, right?
It's a food that then sort ofopens the floodgates for you to
go.
Well, I think I'm going to havemore of that, or, now that I
have that, I think I'm going tohave this and it's just that
(43:12):
instigator.
So what is the?
What is the?
If you can put your finger onthe instigator that sort of sets
you off in sort of a directionthat you're not typically on
these days.
It's good just to understandthat.
Like, what are those thingsthat are driving that behavior?
So I think that holiday resetis a kind of a good way to sort
(43:34):
of check in and go.
Are there any things that arekind of lingering?
I also kind of refer to it asare there any of my sometimes
foods that have sort of shiftedover and I'm eating as my almost
most of the time foods whenthey shouldn't be there.
They should be over in thatsometimes category.
So last week those fancychocolates were definitely
(43:55):
flooding into my most of thetime food and I was like this is
not okay.
Speaker 2 (44:01):
Yeah, you know it's interesting because, like with
one ice cream in six months,that's no big deal.
Speaker 1 (44:07):
Right.
Like we're allowed, like we canallow ourselves.
Your body can handle thatSometimes.
Speaker 2 (44:12):
But, like you said, it led to going to see Wicked
and we had like popcorn andgreasy pieces and like raisinets
.
And then I started to feel so,even before I noticed, about the
food.
I was like I had a feeling oflike guilt and I was like.
And then I asked myself like,why do I feel guilty about that?
(44:33):
And it was like oh, becauseyou're allowing yourself to take
part in foods that you knowlike that's not really part of
your plan.
Speaker 1 (44:41):
Well, and you made a choice that you weren't going to
do those things.
Speaker 2 (44:44):
Most of the time it sabotaged my plan and and then I
felt like really guilt is I'vedone something wrong, and it's
like oh, the guilt is there forgood reason, because I went
against my plan.
Yeah, you know, I went againstmy protocol, right, and I have
this bigger goal, right.
And so it's like oh, let mereevaluate.
Speaker 1 (45:06):
Right, so your brain is?
It is so it is.
It is sort of that red flag andit's going this is something
you want to look at.
You may feel this guilt, whichwe, you know, know you don't
need to feel, but why so?
It's a, it's one of thosecheckpoints.
It's like why do I feel thisguilt?
What is my brain trying to tellme?
It's saying you have a plan, soyou know, recognize, you know
(45:29):
what you're doing and how you'renot on your plan or whatever.
Yeah, it's it is.
Speaker 2 (45:34):
it's really cool, like I Like I've practiced all
of this so much, like the lifecoaching and the hypnosis and
stuff that I'm very aware, LikeI don't a lot.
A lot of people do pair guiltand shame together, but I never
shame myself Like I'm not badfor eating chocolate.
I just did something against myplan Right.
Speaker 3 (45:55):
I love that distinction.
Speaker 2 (45:58):
Doing that against my plan, like I'm not a bad person
, I'm just, I just ate chocolate.
I I sabotaged myselfessentially, um.
So it's really cool when youstart doing this deeper work
that, like you get your braindoes.
The subconscious says wait aminute, that's not our plan.
So it sends that little redflag and for me it sends it
through an emotion Of course.
(46:19):
Yeah, look at that emotion andlike okay what are we doing?
Speaker 1 (46:23):
that's such a good point though.
I mean I love that, thedistinction between guilt and
shame.
So the guilt is sort of yourbrain checking in with you.
It's going red flag over here,let's think about this.
And the shame is that spiral ofself-judgment that is just
useless and, in fact,detrimental Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (46:43):
Yeah, it's like doing I did something bad is very
different from I am bad yeah.
Speaker 1 (46:49):
We are just about out of time.
Speaker 4 (46:52):
Sarah, Susan, anything you want to add, susan,
anything you want to add.
I just want to say that I amreally glad this was recorded,
because I would like to be ableto go back and, you know, do it
again, and maybe if I do itenough times I can then do it
for myself.
But it's good to, you know,just be able to close my eyes
(47:17):
and hear your voice.
Speaker 1 (47:18):
Yeah, Well, and coming back on the second and
then on the 16th, we'll get awhole nother same thing, but
just a little bit of a differentnarrative, which here's a
question.
I, quite frankly, I don't thinkI listened to the narrative
like consciously I heard at thebeginning.
I heard your words, I heard thedirection on what to do with my
(47:40):
hands and my fingers, but afterthat I wasn't really hearing
the words.
That's great.
Speaker 2 (47:47):
That's exactly you were in yeah, you're right.
Speaker 1 (47:50):
I got to my exit and I didn't realize it and I'm like
, oh look, here I am.
Speaker 2 (47:54):
The trigger words, like if I use a trigger word
like deep sleep, it doesn't meansleep, it just means relax more
.
If I use a trigger word wideawake, right, so you're gonna
hear certain words bringing youin and out of state.
Essentially, we're like a carthat we're just shifting gears
in your brain and hypnosis islike this super learning state
(48:17):
it's an ultra learning state.
This is why we don't hypnotizebabies like their.
Speaker 3 (48:21):
Their brains are already running on here because
they're having to learn so muchin their first year, right like
so, um, us humans, our brainstates shift to a much like
lower frequency, and then wehave to intentionally shift our
brain gears well, what I'lloffer not as a downer but in
(48:45):
contrast is uh, I'm cynical andI was trying, and my somatic
response was one of extremetightness in my head, probably
because for me, what that hasrepresented in the past is just
my intellect is beingcompromised in some way, and I
(49:11):
might have had moments, but thechatter was very loud.
Speaker 2 (49:16):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (49:34):
And so it was.
I did not, like I said, I hadmaybe moments of calm, but I
think throughout there was stillthat sense of the vice clamp
which is not, which physicallyis a very unpleasant feeling.
Speaker 2 (49:44):
Yep, yep not, which, physically, is a very unpleasant
feeling.
Yeah, yeah, because the fear ofthe threat, the loss of control
, is there.
Something, and so this is why Imade the suggestion to you to
find your right level of comfort, because I know some of you are
going to go right in, and soyou know I didn't even test you
guys as suggestibility today,and but I I assume that we have
(50:07):
several differentsuggestibilities in the room,
and so the suggestions I'mgiving you kind of speak to all
of you yeah, I was like I likewhat she's saying.
Speaker 3 (50:17):
But then there was there.
I was like, yeah, fuck thatyeah there was like this sure,
there was just this fight goingyeah, for you it's.
Speaker 2 (50:25):
It's just not quite safe enough and that's okay,
because we have to go on our own, on our with our, you know, not
too fast, not, you know, you'relike, I just met you right.
So if there's some maybebuilding that relationship and
and that familiarity and and asyou get more comfortable
practicing this for yourself,you may find that you can go
(50:47):
deeper at some point.
But maybe you won't and that'sokay, do you, sarah?
Speaker 1 (50:51):
do you meditate at all?
Speaker 3 (50:54):
I have in the past and I've always enjoyed it.
I don't.
I mean, I do find it assomething like I, I I find it an
experiment to see if I can justcalm my mind.
I mean it'll, yeah, they'll.
They'll inevitably be like oh,I'm making a grocery list and I
don't have a.
(51:14):
We all have monkey minds.
Mine's not super over the topall the time like I.
I have um heard from people whothey absolutely cannot meditate
because it scares the heck outof them to try and wrangle their
thinking at all.
So I have found, when I havemeditated, like it's very
(51:35):
enjoyable.
And again, it's not that Idon't know you, there's
something just inherently aboutthis, because there's a whole
lot of things that you're sayingthat are all familiar
terminology.
I mean, I'm very familiar withthe nervous system and I'm very
you know, I mean all of thingsthat you're saying that are all
familiar terminology.
I mean, I'm very familiar withum, the nervous system, and I'm
very you know, I mean all thesethings that you're blending in
and that's all you know.
It sounds sort of like emdr, avariation of you know um.
(51:55):
So all of it makes sense.
But even again, like, as we'retalking, like there is just
something right here, that'sjust and it for me.
And again, if we get into alllike the spiritual, like you
know, there's somethingintellectually which I think a
lot of us it's not just auniqueness to my household, I
(52:16):
think, particularly in the Westwe have always been taught to
you know, know, really praiseintellect, and so even
rationally and emotionally I canunderstand it.
But there's something, there'ssomething that my intellect is
like.
This isn't working.
Speaker 1 (52:37):
This is the only way I can describe it and that's
interesting because for me it'sthe kind of the opposite.
I'm like I don't feel like Ieven tap into a smidgen of the
intellect that's available to meand that being able to get into
my subconscious mind to me ishow I believe that I actually
(53:00):
will learn more or, in um,internalize more or whatever.
I feel like I I feel likethat's a place that I have so
closed off and then I'm like ifI could just get in there.
So that to me is this this tome is somewhat of access to
something that I can't typicallydo by myself.
Speaker 2 (53:22):
That makes sense yeah , there's no wrong way here,
like I.
It's like I'm reading hersuggestibility just a little bit
, based on some of the thingsshe said, and there's nothing
wrong here, yeah.
So I would say take all thegood from it that you want and
that you can and let the rest go.
(53:42):
There's like you know, we're allgoing to process it differently
.
You may look back in a fewweeks of working together and be
like I've.
You know I've been feeling alittle bit more or less anxious,
or I've been feeling like I'mgetting a little more from it.
You might not.
You also might.
So just being open, willing,courageous, these are the things
(54:04):
that I think make successfuladults.
Speaker 1 (54:06):
You know like susan, did you have a question?
Speaker 4 (54:10):
I just wanted to say one thing, and that's that I I
think I would, as I was goingdeeper, I think I just kept
coming up because I was, I wasum, not wanting to forget what
you said, and I so I repeated itin my head, but I think I was
(54:32):
um, so my, I would say myconscious mind was wanting to
make sure that that or somethingor stayed with me, or something
.
Yeah, and you know, I'mthinking that in the future I
should really be able to justnot have to, not have to engage
(54:53):
my conscious mind and justlisten and let it yeah, I don't
know be absorbed by mysubconscious is the best thing,
yeah I mean, I'm very much likesarah.
Speaker 2 (55:06):
Um, like again, I shared with you guys a little
bit just about my you know, ummy past and um, I am very like
hyper vigilance is the name ofthe game for me and very
intellectual and, um, I totallyget that.
I I there were many times whereI sat for it.
(55:27):
It took me a while to like gain, you know, trust in the process
.
So, yeah, let it just bewhatever.
However fast or slow it needsto be, there's no wrong way.
What was it that clicked inyour head, though, when you went
with your friend to sign her upand then she didn't sign up but
you signed?
Speaker 1 (55:41):
way.
What was it that clicked inyour head, though, when you went
with your friend to sign her up, and then she didn't sign up,
but you signed up.
What was that?
What was that moment whereyou're like?
Speaker 2 (55:50):
this is for me so mine's a little bit more
personal um it.
Um I was, you know, I got outof the military, I was
struggling with complex ptsd byall accounts, I was suicidal and
um, so I was actually havinglike some spiritual experiences
(56:10):
and really just having like anexistential crisis.
I think and um, I don't know.
I don't remember like the exactmoment where I was like I need
to be here, but I think it wassomething like I need to know
how the brain works.
I need to be here, but I thinkit was something like I need to
know how the brain works.
I need to know how, what am Iexperiencing?
Like what I am experiencing.
How is my brain allowing thatto be processed?
(56:33):
Like how is this coming into my, into my how, into my
experience?
Speaker 1 (56:39):
so I was like I'm going to surround myself with
all these mental healthprofessionals and I'm going to
learn how our brain is able todo this and what this all means,
and, um it, like I said, itsaved my life yeah, I think it's
really interesting and just thedifferent parts of the brain
and what you know when that,when that primitive brain takes
(57:00):
over, and just the awareness,just the simple awareness of
being able to know when ourprimitive brain is running the
show.
It's just, first of all,knowing there's there's two
things there's your primitivebrain and then there's your
modern brain, and then thenbeing able to go oh my god, my
reptile brain is totally tryingto take over now.
And just that awareness, ithelps you kind of jump back into
(57:23):
your modern thinking brain thehypnosis world um.
Speaker 2 (57:27):
We always say that I desensitization.
We don't call it emdr, but itwas like the original emdr and
then it was um.
So it's like mental healthprofessionals have.
They call it one thing and thenhypnotherapists call it another
thing.
We call it eye fascination.
But essentially it's the samework and it uses the same parts
(57:49):
of the brain and it's so coolhow gentle it is hypnosis,
because it's not like it doesn'tre-traumatize, right.
So it's so gentle.
It's not like you're going towalk out and be like, oh, you
know, it's a brand new day,right.
But what happens is you canlook back.
(58:09):
So like when I look back 10years ago in my life, versus
like the abundance I have now,who I am in my confidence, like
what I've created.
I can see the evidence of thehypnosis working, so it's very
interesting just how gentle theprocess is.
(58:31):
I want to say thank you so muchfor having me.
I loved getting to meet youguys.
I hope to see you again, sothank you, thanks for coming.
Speaker 1 (58:40):
Thanks for sharing so good.
Thanks for coming.
Thanks for sharing.
It's so good.
Do you like the idea of eatingfor the body you want?
Is there a piece of you that'seager to learn how to become
leaner, stronger and healthierwithout having to overhaul your
entire life?
If this is you, then you're inluck, because this is what I do.
I can help you reconnect andwork with your body so that you
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can enjoy the body, comfort andconfidence you deserve, eating
foods you love.
Click the free consult link inthe show notes.
Let's talk about where you are,what you want and how you can
get there.
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