4-18-24 - 7am - Mayorkas Follow Up, Johnson & Ukraine and Different Truths

Episode Transcript

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I suffered through all of the StarWars. I have seen them and hate
them. I would rather a redhot poker through my ear than to sit
through anything else Star Wars related.I'm right there with him. Does Jimmy
have the authority to strip a goobercard? Because asking for a cackle breaks

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all of the rules and is completelyagainst the spirit of this entire program.
What difference at this point doesn't make. We did it. We did it,
Joe, You're gonna be the nextpresident of the United States. She

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asked for it, he complained,we still had to give it. Jimmy
Sangenberger in for Michael Brown today,dragging. Good job on following the rules.
I mean, these are just therules that you have to follow.
I've learned them quick since filling infor the first time for Michael yesterday.

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Good to be with you today.Please send in those talkbacks keep up coming.
We've gotten some great ones so fartoday, and of course you can
text in on the text line threethree one zero three. Put in Michael
or Mike in first. Once again, I'm Jimmy sang in Berger. I'm
a the investigative columnist for the DenverGazette. Longtime radio host elsewhere as well

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in Denver before and here now infor Michael Today and Jimmy real quick.
Yes, I addressed this most recenttalkback that came in. Yes, please
guber number eleven seventy five, Michael, can't wait till you get back.
These goobers just wasted an hour ofairtime talking about Hollywood drivel, not only

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as Hollywood a bunch of commy scum, but it also distracts all America from
all the dire issues confronting the nation. Please sell Sing and Drag too,
dramatic pause with a lot of periods. Get alive. Let me thank you
Drag for bringing this to my attentionbecause I hadn't noticed that this text came

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in in the last few minutes.But here's the thing, if I may,
I was going to change topics,but let's address this gooper for just
a moment. Hollywood has a tremendousinfluence and impact on things across the country.

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And of course, one of thebig pieces that we were talking about
is how a company like Disney islosing money on a franchise like Star Wars,
or at least hasn't got the returnon investment that they're supposed to.
And what does that show? Well, they're struggling. So what do they
do. They go to a countrylike the UK where they get their cost

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covered at least a quarter of thecost plus covered in tax credits. So
really it's about drivel perhaps made inHollywood that is being subsidized by the government.
There is the political governmental tie indrag. See you've got some tie

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inso that so make it an actualrelevant topic. But this Texter must be
a relatively new Googer listener, becausewell, Michael and I have wasted time
on much worse topics than a relatableeconomy driving subjects such as star wars and
the return of profits. Here,I mean, we've talked about, you

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know, guys breaking their penises andthis lady with boob implants that only has
one. So you know, thetough get over it. You must be
you here, Yes, indeed,but you know what, We're gonna keep
doing it. If it happens onthe radio, sometimes it's worth diving in.

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And yeah, I try to havea governmental die in to these kinds
of topics. But I will givethe new goober some little bit of latitude.
I'll cut them a little bit ofslack and say, I get it.
You want the real meaty, serioustopics, like, for example,
the United States Senate, the Democrats, good old Chucky Schumer saying nope,

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we are gonna dismiss this impeachment ofAlejandro Majorcis, the Secretary of Homeland Security,
which I really just like how yesterdayor the day before, Speaker of
the House Mike Johnson really just underscoredthis constitutional responsibility of the Senate to hold

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a trial and after the House transmitsthe articles of impeachment to the Senate later
today, we expect and we demandthat all one hundred Senators listen to the
arguments of the House impeachment managers.They have a constitutional and institutional obligation to
do so. If Senator Schumer caresat all about the suffering of Americans and
the disaster that Mayorkis has wrought atthe border, then he will hold a

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full and public trial. The Americanpeople want a full and public trial.
I think they deserve to see theevidence, and it will be unconscionable and
i in my view, unconstitutional ifChuck Schumer fails in that responsibility, and
he did, he refused to doit. They were like No, this

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isn't legitimate, this isn't appropriate,So we're going to dismiss a Guess what,
guys, you just set a brandnew precedent for dismissing impeachments, at
least the trial of an impeachment inthe Senate. In the future, this
could happen for a president. Let'ssay that Donald Trump is re elected.

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Let's say like elected again for asecond term. Now, and let's say
that is a strong possibility, theDemocrats take control of the House, and
the Republicans are able to seek confiewith control of the US Senate, and
the Democrats decide once again they wantto do a third impeachment of Donald Trump.

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And then it gets to the RepublicanSenate, and rather than doing a
show trial and then ultimately acquitting Trump, they just say, this isn't a
legitimate impeachment. We're going to dismissit. We're gonna dismiss the case,
no trial. Then Chuckie Schumer isgoing to go, this is outrageous,

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how dare you do this? Andthe Republicans will go It's kind of like
that whole filibuster thing. You guysstarted it. So we just took it
to its logical conclusion. Remember withthe US Supreme Court and how they've gotten
changed in the evolution with the philibusters, the same kind of thing here and

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now a new precedent set by theDemocrats. Now, regardless of where you
come down on impeaching my orcus,whether it's the politics or it is the
border policy and who to blame orwhatever it is, regardless of where you

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come down on that, you shouldrecognize that the Senate needs to do it's
due diligence and its duty, andChuck Schumer decided not to do that,
and that's wrong. There's no otherway to put it. Now. Speaker
Johnson is right on in his pointsabout the Senate's responsibility to hold a trial.

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However, Speaker Johnson, and wetouched on this a bit yesterday,
is in hot water with his ownRepublican Caucus Thomas Massey now joining Marjorie Taylor
Green in saying that Mike Johnson needsto be removed. Well, Johnson was

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on a couple of different programs,including CNN yesterday, and he was asked
a little bit about these subjects,including the role of the Speaker of the
House and the politics of all this, and guys. I think he gave
a pretty decent response. I'm notasking any Democrats to get involved in that.
I believe the House will do itswill. Look, I'm trying to

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govern and lead this as age ata very interesting, unprecedented time. We
have challenges right now that no previousgeneration has faced. Nut Gangridge posted a
few days ago on social media theSpeaker's job is effectively impossible. Now.
He said that I'm doing the hardestjob that maybe it has ever been in
the history of the US House,maybe, he said, arguably since the
Civil War. Why, because welive in a very divided time and very

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divisive politics. In the age ofsocial media, a twenty four hour news
cycle where everybody can express their opinionsevery moment of the day about things they're
disgruntled about. It makes a lotof challenges, But we're going to get
through this. Listen. So itbegan with him addressing the idea that Democrats
might come to his rescue if there'sa vote to vacate the speakership, that

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the Democrats of several Democrats who aremore moderate might come in and vote to
keep him, as opposed to allowinghim to be removed by a small band
of Republicans like happened with Kevin McCarthy, and the politics of all this are
just absolutely stupid in an election year, the idea that you would remove a
Speaker of the House seven months awayfrom an election less than that, and

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then swing the House into a situationwhere they have to stop doing work,
which, by the way, I'mactually a fan of gridlock because I like
when Congress doesn't get much done,because if they're getting a lot of things
done, it means that they areinterfering with our lives and our economy far
more than they are allowed to dounder the Constitution. But the reality is

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that if you stop it in itstracks because of a speakership dispute, you
vacate and then you have, however, many days and weeks of finding somebody
else to replace him who can evensatisfy the disparate wings from the Conservatives and
the magotypes to the moderates and thenbe able to coalesce a coalition of people

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in the party to get your speakershipsorted out. It's just such a distraction,
and we'll paint another picture of Republicansas being the party that just can't
even get it together within their ownhouse. They are that dysfunctional. Having
said that, what is a bigreason why Speaker Johnson is in so much

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trouble with some Republicans, and thatis because he wants to move ahead with
providing additional support military aid and financialaid for Ukraine in their war to beat
back Russia and kick them out ofUkraine's sovereign territory Mike Johnston. Johnson in

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fact, is setting up now billsto be voted on to provide aid do
Ukraine as well as to Israel andTaiwan, along with one banning or forcing
the sale of TikTok. There arefour separate bills that Johnson wants to move

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forward with, and he was clearyesterday as to why he supports providing aid
to both Israel and Ukraine. Weknow what the timetable is, We know
the urgency in Ukraine and in Israel, and we are going to stand by
Israel, our close ally and dearfriend, and we were going to stand
for freedom and make sure that VladimirPutin doesn't march through Europe. These are

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important responsibilities. A strong America isgood for the entire world since World War
Two. Really, really the responsibilityfor the free world has been shifted onto
our shoulders, and we accept thatrole. We're an exceptional nation. We're
the greatest nation on the planet,and we have to act like and we
have to project to Putin and gand Iran and North Korea and anybody else

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that we will defend freedom. Itdoesn't mean boots on the ground. We're
not the world's policeman. But we'regoing to do the right thing. And
I think the Congress is going totake an important standard. I agree with
him. Do you text three threeone zero three and put in Michael or
Mike first in there? Do youagree with Johnson Johnson's logic there? How

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about here on specifically his rationale forwhy the US should provide more aids to
Ukraine, in particular, if weinvest in this way, this is a
really important thing to prevent a furthercost to us down the road. Not
only is it important to defend freedomand the innocent people in Ukraine, the
innocent families, and the twenty thousandchildren that have been kidnapped, and all

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these other things. This is anevil regime. I believe Vladimir Putin is
an evil regime. I believe heis making this aggression on Ukraine because he
saw an opportunity, and I thinkit needs to stop, because if it
doesn't and he continues, he disruptsthe world order that we've maintained since World
War Two. And it's many ofus believe that it is likely that he

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might try to invade a NATO countryor go to the border, for example,
of Poland and set up a standoffthat gets NATO allies involved. I
don't want American boots on the groundover there. I don't want us to
be involved in this any further.I think this needs to be brought to
an end, but I'm afraid thatwe'll need a stronger president to help broker
that piece deal. I expect DonaldTrump will do that, and that's what
we're trying to get to that point. Look, I think it's well said.

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I talked about this yesterday that Ibelieve that Putin has these ambitions that
he will proceed with if successful inUkraine. For thirty plus years, For
decades, he has been writing aboutthe desired speaking about the desire to restore
the old Russian Czarist Empire. Hehas been advocating for trying to position himself

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to be the twenty first century Peterthe Great, and to that end,
he will proceed into other countries,which is why Sweden and Finland both have
broken hundreds of years of neutrality andjoin NATO. They have joined NATO,

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and that's not a small deal.That is a big deal because they recognize
what Putin would like to do next. And that continues on into other countries
like Poland, the Czech Republic,Bulgaria. These are countries that lived behind

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the Iron Curtain all those years andthey don't want Russia to have that kind
of status anymore. And the longerthat Russia is kept stuck in Ukraine fighting
a war that they frankly should havewon two years ago, the better it

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is for American interests. Ideally,we'll get to a point where they will
beat him back, Ukraine will kickRussia out, or maybe if Trump gets
in there, as Johnson suggests,you will have a deal that can be
worked out that Putin and Russia saveface, and then Ukraine gets its territory

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back minus maybe what was under Russia'scontrol before the invasion began. Who knows
what kind of deal would come about, but we have to consider the big
implications and I think Speaker of theHouse Mike Johnson understands that. And guess
what with that being the reality andall the other things going on with Johnson

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that have ticked off some in theMAGA wing of the party, he has
the full support of Donald Trump,the Republican nominee for president, the former
president. He has the full supportof Trump. On the other hand,
some might say, well, sodid Ronald McDaniel, and then there was

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enough outrage after she was re electedat the Republican National Committee that she was
eventually removed, and maybe and Trumpgot on board with removing her. But

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nevertheless, this is the Speaker ofthe House. It's a little different,
more serious dramatic implications listener texts comingin. We do not know Putin's plan
after Ukraine period, deal with thatif it went it happens, No,
I would disagree with you wholeheartedly.And here's why, because while we don't
know the specifics of what he woulddo, we know what his ambitions are

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and what he is highly likely todo, which means take this premitive preventative
measure and continue to bog down Russiaas opposed to allowing them an opportunity to
take over Ukraine and potentially, yes, make a further advance. I think

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we have to be clear eyed aboutthe reality and the geopolitics of it all.
What do you think? Text threeto three one zero three start with
Michael or Mike. Jimmy Sangenberger infor Michael Brown. Morning boys, Hey
Jimmy, I was wondering if wecould get the Imperial Death March on the

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mouth harp, make it happen,have a great day, m hm.
The harmonicas are a little beyond armsreads right at this moment. But of
course I brought him to the studio. Hey, Dragon, you talk for
a minute and I can go grabhim and oblige this this gentleman who apparently

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wants a little harp in the morning, which I can't blame him for.
Do you really know the Imperial Marchon? No? But I can be
beautiful. I would happily vamp fora minute. But he asked for the
Imperial Death March, which is thisis the Imperial March, So Imperial Death
March can be whatever I decide tohim that he didn't use the proper verbiage

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and name for the Oh my goodness, I mean, you know I'm the
guy who took us down that rabbithole of Hollywood drivel. In the first
hour of the program. We mightget some harmonica, not currently, but
a little a little later, althoughI do appreciate it especially you know,
we got a little debut yesterday ofit. So it's always it's always good.

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Yeah, thank you, thank you. It's a great to stick around.
Maybe we'll we'll bring out the harpjust a little bit. I got
a come up. In the topof the nine o'clock hour, a good
friend of mine, rabbi out ofMassachusetts, Rabbi Jonathan Houseman, will join
us to talk about the incredible hearingyesterday with the president of Columbia University where

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just at least dephonic Jim Banks,some of the these Republicans just did a
great job grilling her and others fromColumbia University, where anti Semitism is skyrocketing,
and a Rabbi Houseman might just needa little original blues intro, because
Hey and I commiserate about music quitea bit. That guy has an encyclopedic

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mind when it comes to the bluesin particular. Good to be with you,
Jimmy Sangenberger in for Michael Brown todayday number two and it's been just
a great time. Here is anexample of yesterday's hearing in the House of
Representatives where Representative Jim Banks in thiscase drill grilled Namat Schaffique, the President

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of Columbia University, on a termasconormativity, which has something to do with
Ashkenazi Jews. A strange term,and he pointed that out to this president.
Ascan normativity is defined as a systemof oppression that favors white Jewish folks

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based on the assumption that all Jewishfolks are Ashkenazi or from Western Europe.
So do you do you have aresponse to that definition of ashcanormativity? Is
it appropriate? This is handed outto your students by other students. It
is not a product of the facultyof Columbia University to your students. Obviously

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you you you allow this to behanded out to your students. Is that
appropriate? As I said, thisis not a product of the faculty or
the administration. It is something thata group of students produced. I don't
necessarily I don't agree with it.I think it's not very useful. I
don't condone it. And does ColumbiaUniversity recognize the word because it's not found

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in the Webster's Dictionary or anywhere else. Ashka normativity is that a Is that
an acceptable term at Columbia University?Congressman I am. I am with you,
you know, I agree with youthat I don't find this. Wow,
okay, this is head it outon your watch. By the way,
He also asked her and pressed herabout the spelling of the word folks.

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Normally it's folks, but in thisdocument it is fol x, and
he literally ses, why is itspelled? Can you explain why it's spelled
this way? I am a notoriouslybad speller, but even I know that's
wrong. Yes, I don't understandit. And that's why Congressman Jim Banks
pressed her on that top topic,intermixed with the Ashcan normativity it is.

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I just what's coming out of academia. Are they trying to tie in the
LATINX with these LATINX latin is thathow? I don't even LATINX. What's
the proper way to say that's whatit is? If you're saying, well,
okay, yeah, it's not likeLatino or LATINAX. LATINX, which
by the way, is clearly culturalappropriation, because you're not even doing it

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right. I took Spanish for years. I should be fluent, but I
am not, and I just whenI hear that, I'm like, no
wonder. Polls show that hardly anyLatinos use the term latinx, and in
fact, they get turned off byand frustrated. They're like, what the

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heck is going on here? Theydon't like it, and yet you have
these white liberals who use that termand can distantly push it because in the
Spanish language, latinos plural is amasculine way of saying a group o's oh

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and ah. O refers to masculine, ah refers to feminine, and that's
not always the case, depending oncertain words like person in his persona that's
just sort of a generic one andit's not female or male for the a.
But without getting any further into theweeds on the Spanish language, let
me just say that latinos implies acollective masculine sort of like guys, hey,

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guys, you got men, yougot women, boys, girls,
Hey, guys. In Spanish,it's latinos. Well, guess what,
they don't want that anymore, so, it's latin X because it's gendered.
It's masculine, cosick. Masculine yhas for centuries invaded the Spanish language,

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and the white liberals in academia mustrescue Spanish speakers from it. So there
you go. That explains that littlepiece. But it is absurd, and
you know, it really does comedown to something from Sarah texting in three
three one zero three text Michael orMike. In the beginning, Sarah says,

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the problem with our country's leadership issimple. We have too many who
identify as Republican or Democrat, andnot enough for true Americans representing us.
And I think that's critical because thisday and age, we are siloed into
our groups, and that means weget group think all too often, and

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it can promote a mentality that's like, oh, everybody thinks like we do,
where everybody should think like we do. Hence academia making these conclusion and
then shoving it down the throats ofstudents or Hollywood. There I go,
referencing Hollywood drivel again, Dragon,Hollywood doing the same thing because in their

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minds, this is how people shouldthink. And if you don't agree,
then you are the other. Andthat doesn't work out so well for society.
So I tend to agree with Sarahhere that putting us into these just
groups, hard and fast groups andthat's it isn't the way to function as

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a society. Now, speaking ofsort of insane philosophies and ideas, the
new CEO of NPR. Have youbeen following this story about the now former
employee, senior editor Yuri Berliner,breaking a rule with a three thousand word

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critique of National Public Radio NPR inThe Free Press, which is a media
upstart. He got five day suspensionwithout pay who was pointing out the bias
of NPR and so forth, andNPR is publicly funded. And then on
Wednesday he posted his resignation letter justyesterday on x accusing the public radio network's

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new chief executive. This is,according to The Wall Street Journal, of
having divisive views that quote confirm thevery problems he cited in his Free Press
piece. Now, Catherine Maher isthe new CEO, or is the CEO
of NPR, and she has arather interesting view on the truth that perhaps

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for our most tricky disagreements, seekingthe truth and seeking to convince others of
the truth might not be the rightplace to start. In fact, our
reverence for the truth might be adistraction that's getting in the way of finding
common ground and getting things done.The truth. We shouldn't have a reverence

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for the truth because it gets inthe way, so we should instead allow
my truth and your truth. Infact, there are many different truths.
I think if I were to reallyask you to think about this, one
of the things that we could allacknowledge is that part of the reason we
have such glorious chronicles to the humanexperience in all forms of culture is because

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we acknowledge there are many different truths. And so in the spirit of that,
I'm certain that the truth exists foryou and probably for the person sitting
next to you, but this maynot be the same truth. This is
because the truth of the matter isvery often from many people. What happens

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when we merge facts about the worldwith our beliefs about the world, so
we all have different truths. They'rebased on things like where we come from,
how we were raised, and howother people perceive us. Now,
I do have to return to StarWars for a moment, because I will
admit that she was mostly speaking nonsensethere, but she was echoing to some

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extent, Obi Wan Kenelby, You'regoing to find that many of the truths
we cling to dependrickly on our ownpoint of view. There is a truth
in what she said that our ownpoints of view impact how we approach the
truth, how we cling to truths, various truths of life and the world

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and the universe and so forth.But what she was doing there in those
clips from a Ted talk, bythe way, and she gave I think
a couple of years back, let'ssay this truth doesn't matter to heck with
it, and that brings a wholeworld of issues. What kinds of issues?

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Let's tackle it? Coming up?Jimmy sangen Berger in for Michael Brown
Talk Radio six thirty K How goodmorning, Dragon and whoever's filling in for
Michael today. It's a beautiful day, and I don't mind listening to how
Star Wars is losing money for Disneymakes me kind of happy inside. I
was a huge Star Wars friend growingup, but I will not pay for

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Disney Plus and I won't watch allthe new Star Wars because they're in charge
of it. You guys, havea beautiful day when you're filling in you
don't rewind remind people every two secondswho you are, so you don't have
opportunity to consistently say that Jimmy Sangenberger, how in the world do you spell
sang and burger? Dragon the quiz? How do you spell sang and burger?

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Have you learned this yet? Afternow our second day and together,
all I know is it's all easebaby. That's all you need to know.
There's no AI or you and sangin Burger. It's all ease all the
time. Once you know that sangin Burger is easy, which means you
can easily get to my website,which is Jimmy Sangenburger dot com. By

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the way, you can email metwenty four seven three sixty five from the
website there as well. But duringthe show, three three one zero three
is the number to text, andyou can text Michael. Please text Michael
or Mike. First, leftists liketo pretend the truth is subjective. What

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they call truth is simply perception.Truth used to be fact, but not
in twenty twenty four. I thinkthat as well put and it underscores a
little bit of the mentality of theCEO of NPR Catherine Maher who not only
did she say something like this,but perhaps for our most tricky disagreements,

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seeking the truth and seeking to convinceothers of the truth might not be the
right place to start. In fact, our reference for the truth might be
a distraction that's getting in the wayof finding common ground and getting things done.
So this probably helps guide the mentalityfor when she was at Wikipedia,

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and she was the CEO and executivedirector of actually not just Wikipedia, but
the Wikimedia Foundation, which puts outWikipedia and other wikis, and she said
this in twenty twenty one regarding censorship. The model was around, how do
we create sort of a clearing houseof information that brings the institution of the
Wikimedia Foundation with the editing community inorder to be able to identify threats early

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on through conversations with government of course, as well as other platform operators to
understand sort of what the what thelandscape looks like with government coordinating with government
there and now as of March.As of last month, Katherine Meyer is
the CEO of NPR, which ofcourse is another outfit that gets taxpayer dollars

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for more left wing perspectives, justlike Disney, going we keep bringing this
up every hour, just like Disneygoing to the UK to hide the ball
and make it look like they're doingbetter financially with Star Wars than they really
are after spending four billion dollars givingfour billion dollars to George Lucas for Lucasfilm.

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This is just a common theme.They use taxpayer dollars however they can
to advance their agendas, their objectives. What have you. I also going
back to the Latin X discussion,Dragon, I love this text. Brother,
I spell our state colorade X.I think I think that's not a

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very good idea, but you arewelcome. You are welcome to do that,
and you will be very welcome inthe woke communities when you start using
colorad X. Oh my goodness,where is our society headed and what has
it become up to this point?Jimmy saying, Berger in for Michael Brown.

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Two more hours up ahead,