Manifestation & Mindset Coach Explains How To Raise Spiritually Awakened Kids

What if the secret to raising emotionally resilient, confident kids was never about being perfect, but about being present?

This episode is a masterclass in manifestation, intentional living, and mindset mastery...not just for children, but for the adults who are still trying to find their way back to magic.​

Ashley Gonor, mindset coach, host of Uncover Your Magic podcast, and founder of the Raising Confidence movement, joins Will and Karen for an intimate conversation that will challenge everything you thought you knew about parenting, limiting beliefs, and the power of words to shape your reality.​​

Why You Need to Listen Right Now
If you've ever felt stuck, overwhelmed by responsibilities, or disconnected from the magic you once believed in, this episode is your wake-up call. Ashley shares her remarkable journey from opening a day spa with nothing but credit cards and intention, to watching it literally catch on fire, and still trusting it was all happening for her, not to her.

​What You'll Discover:
The Fire That Forged Her Faith
How Ashley's day spa burning down became the catalyst for understanding that everything in life is working for you, and how she used that mindset to build an even more successful business and raise two incredibly confident daughters.​

The Magic Formula for Raising Confident Kids
Ashley's proven 6-Step Magical Formula that she's used to transform the lives of hundreds of children, teens, and families, including techniques for gratitude practices, intention-setting, and emotional regulation that work at any age.​​

Words Are Your Wand
Why the language you use creates your reality, and how one simple shift in how you speak can change everything from your relationships to your child's self-worth. Ashley reveals how she became "the word police" in her home and why it matters more than you think.​

The Morning Routine That Changes Everything
Discover why starting your day at "100 degrees" (as the thermostat, not the thermometer) sets the tone for your entire family, and how even 5-10 minutes can shift your frequency and create lasting change.​

When Your Partner Isn't "Woo"
Ashley opens up about navigating spiritual growth when your spouse isn't on the same path, and why modeling your truth (without forcing it) is the most powerful tool for transformation in any relationship.

Core Values: Your Decision-Making Compass
Learn how understanding your core values, and teaching them to your children, eliminates confusion, builds confidence, and ensures every choice you make aligns with what truly matters most.​

Why 2020 Was the "Best Time" of Her Kids' Lives
While the world fell apart, Ashley's daughters thrived. Hear how intentional parenting and mindset tools turned quarantine into a transformational experience that her teens still say was the best time of their lives.​

The Power of Breadcrumbs
How to recognize and follow the signs the universe is leaving for you, and why trusting your intuition, even when the path seems unclear, always leads you exactly where you need to be.

​Connect With Ashley Gonor:
Email: [e-mail]
Instagram & Facebook: @AshleyGonor
Podcast: Uncover Your Magic (available everywhere podcasts are found)
Website: AshleyGonor.com​​

In a world where kids face unprecedented pressures from social media, technology, and constant comparison, raising confident children isn't a luxury, it's essential. But here's the secret Ashley reveals: you can't give your children what you don't have yourself.​

This conversation is a permission slip to reclaim your magic, release perfectionism, and step into the parent (and person) you've always wanted to be. Whether you have kids or not, the tools Ashley shares apply to anyone ready to shift their mindset, transform their words, and trust that life is always working for them.

Don't just listen to this episode. Let it recalibrate your reality.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Karen, Yes, remind me okay to stop saying yes. Remind
me to finish my sentence before you guys remember no, No,
remind me to stop saying I don't believe in magic. Okay,
because the guests we have today just made my limiting beliefs,
packed their bags and moved to Cleveland. Oh yep. Do

(00:22):
you ever meet someone who makes you feel like your
chakras are underachieving?

Speaker 2 (00:26):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (00:26):
Yeah, me too, well on a daily basis. Just so happens.
I think we may have accidentally manifested to his guest. Oh,
either that or the universe finally decided that we are
ready all right, and.

Speaker 2 (00:37):
I like the second second plan option B.

Speaker 3 (00:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (00:39):
The problem is I did not expect to question my
entire reality today. But let me ask you something. What
if magic, real soul level universe on your side kind
of magic is actually just waiting for us to believe
it's possible. That sounds perfect, It does sound perfect, right, perfect? Well,
today's guest, well, she's been there, she teaches it, and

(01:02):
she's living proof that it works. This episode might just
recalibrate your reality. We're gonna be talking about shifting beliefs,
unlocking your inner power, raising emotionally resilient humans, and maybe
even discovering why our dreams keep dropping breadcrumbs at our feet.
It's exciting stuff, it is, Karen. I don't want to
say this episode might activate your magic, but this episode

(01:24):
might just activate your mag Yay, the skeptic retosician starts. Now.
My name is Will and I'm Karen. Unlike Boulder and Scully,
both want to believe. So we've embarked in a journey
of discovery.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
We've talked to people deeply entrenched in the spiritual and
metaphysical world.

Speaker 1 (01:40):
We've thrown ourselves into weird and wonderful experiences. I even
joined a coven.

Speaker 3 (01:44):
Of witches and wait, you joined a coven.

Speaker 1 (01:47):
Yep, all on the interest of finding something, anything, that
will prove that there's something beyond this physical.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
Three dimensional world we all live in.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
This is the skeptic metaphysicians. Hey there, I'm Will, Karen.
So Karen, Yes, you know that what I'm most excited
to speak to our guest about today.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
No idea?

Speaker 1 (02:16):
How do we in our thirties?

Speaker 3 (02:20):
Wow? So she's a time traveler.

Speaker 1 (02:21):
I love it. Okay, okay, how do we in our forties?
All right? How do we in our fifties.

Speaker 3 (02:26):
Think for yourself? How do.

Speaker 1 (02:29):
How do we reclaim magic after life's responsibilities have made
us practical? Or our guest actually lives it, she doesn't
just teach it. Get ready to be curious, to shift
and maybe even to see yourself in fresh new ways
as we welcome actually gone to the show. Welcome Ashley.
How you doing today?

Speaker 3 (02:45):
Oh? Thank you so much. You both are like a
breath of fresh air. And just watching your chemistry makes
my heart like feel so good that there's people out
there that have these relationships that and I'm sure this
podcast has like been such a fun like aspect of
your relationship, has probably added so much humor and lightness

(03:05):
to your.

Speaker 1 (03:06):
Likely there's no question about it. We are loving doing
the show specifically because we love doing it together. Sometimes
Karen can't make it, so I'll have to do it
on my own. That's nowhere near his fun nowhere.

Speaker 3 (03:18):
But it just comes through, you know, just you bring
that light and it's you know, when you see people
that are doing something that's their path, like that they
didn't realize was going to be their passion, but once
they start doing it, they're like, oh wow, this is amazing.
But it just your vibration is high when you're together,
and it's just the chemistry that is, I don't know,

(03:39):
it's very attractive, like you pull me in when I
listen to your episodes. We need just authentic authenticity.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
We need you around us all the time. You're recording that, right,
if only there was a way to record the conversation
the button. All right, we really appreciate that. Actually, kind Now,
let's start with the obvious, right, you've got this the
magic path. What exactly is it and how did it
first start revealing itself to you?

Speaker 3 (04:08):
Let me can I start a little bit of kind
of my background just so you understand it?

Speaker 1 (04:13):
Absolutely?

Speaker 3 (04:13):
Yeah, So in my life, I'm fifty six years old
and didn't get married untill I was thirty thirty six,
had my curls at thirty seven and forty. But before that,
I was always a seeker, always Abraham Hicks, Wayne Dyer,
Seth All, the Seth material. Of course in miracles, I

(04:35):
was at the Barnes and Noble all the time, you know,
just like knowing there's so much more, and I you know,
even not knowing, you know, where my path was leading
And I was one of those now that I'm raising
the girls and they're in their teenage years and I
was not. I was lost. I was I didn't have

(04:55):
a direction. I had probably in my twenties jobs, well,
maybe we'll get this. I moved to San Diego, I've
lived in Seattle, I moved to Montana. It was just
always I was like trying to find my I didn't
have that intention. So I know that that part of
it was my path, because everything is always leading you
to where you're supposed to be. And that's why I

(05:17):
wanted to kind of lead into this, like my raising
confidence of magic path and why I know my soul's
purpose was all part of these breadcrumbs that I picked
up along the way, and also like meeting Richard, like
I didn't. I started a day Spa when I was thirty,
out of nothing, and it was like that moment that

(05:39):
I started something where I knew that there's magic in life.
Is when I trusted and surrendered and I didn't have
a clue of what to do. And so long story short,
I opened this day spa and I think that's where
I'm going to start uncovering my magic. Was when I
opened a day spa with nothing. A lady was selling

(06:01):
it and I said, okay, I'm going to do something.
Pay your money with the credit card. Had no money really,
and ended up meeting her the day and her place flooded.
Then I said, okay, I'm going to open it up
in this other suite that was twice her or three
times her rent. The guy the commercial real estate guy.

(06:21):
My husband's in commercial real estate, so when I told
him the story, he said, no commercial real estate guy
would let some little thirty year old rent a space
and had no business background, Like I've ran business, you know,
like entrepreneurs, little things along the way. But this is
all the magic part because I had full intention so

(06:41):
open the spa with my with credit cards. Every There
was no internet, so I don't know how I even
people were coming to me and doing reiki, breath work,
sound healing, chigong. This is when I was thirty.

Speaker 1 (06:58):
I think, that's like my dream come true. That's exactly
what I would love to open up.

Speaker 3 (07:03):
Wow, they were all to me, And I look back
now at this seeing how it all came. It was
for a five year time time in my life. But
it then caught on fire, and it caught on fire
after I had finally figured out how to get a
little old couch and some you know, some candles at
pier one, like try to piece it all together and

(07:25):
make it look like I knew what I was doing,
so I put it all together. It caught on fire.
I knew it was for a reason. I knew the
angels were on my team, and I knew they were
gonna this was for me because I always believed that
everything in my life was for me. Well, I just
bought a house up the street with no money down.

(07:45):
So here I am with I have a house with
and I bought it when you could buy it with
no money down. That was like in the two thousand
and one it was like, I'm just going to buy
a house. I just bought a spa with nothing, so
why not buy a house, right? So I had to
shut down my spa. I hired a girl to sit
in my house and we brought the phones to the

(08:07):
like that she was still answering, like pretending that we
were at the spa. And I got to go all
my insurance money because I had no money, I had insurance,
so I got brand new equipment. I got to open
the guy had to get the whole place. So I
got like three new rooms that I could add more

(08:29):
massages and facials to I bring more income in and
I got a new place. So when nothing I had,
so I got money. Along these months of them renovating it,
and everyone kept saying, don't quit, Ashley, don't let I said,
that wasn't even in my mind. I was just like
I am just going to keep moving forward.

Speaker 1 (08:51):
And so actually trying to interrupt. But when you said
it caught fire, like it literally caught on fire. Oh yeah,
I thought it like when Gangbusters. I was like, oh yeah,
I did a great job, but no, it actually caught
on fire.

Speaker 3 (09:04):
Yes, I had a call from the fire department. I
heard the sirens and I was at sushi with a
friend and I said, oh my gosh, I have to
go to the SPA because there's a fire. And I
literally had just bought that house with nothing, and I
was like in this moment of like, Okay, I've finally
got a business, I have this house, and now it's

(09:25):
on fire, and I really can go back to that
moment and I know that where I was at that
stage of my life, it was I know that this
is for a higher reason. I know that that was
for for me for sure, Like I always that's my
motto in this house is to especially raising the girls
their whole life. Like I don't know why that's for you,

(09:46):
but that was one of my biggest examples in your
life where you think, oh my gosh, people would just
shut down and say forget it.

Speaker 1 (09:53):
Yeah, that would have been the last time I burned
in sense in that place.

Speaker 3 (09:57):
Was it was a whack pot with a pop so
one of those popsicle sticks that yeah, oh my god.
So anyway, so that just that kind of started my
understanding of knowing that you know in your life that
you pick the breadcrumbs up, you follow your you know,
you surrender and trust and know that it's all leading
you to what you're supposed to be doing. And I

(10:19):
realize that at that part of my life. And yeah,
and then I had a baby, sold the spa. Best thing.
I was like, this lady came into me and said,
you don't want to have a baby and a spa and.

Speaker 1 (10:31):
I sell it to me. I'll take it. Oh no, man,
not the spa, the baby right way. Right.

Speaker 3 (10:38):
So then I just started to become a mom and
I had all that background and intentional parenting was I
think the gift that I had to wait that long
was my experience in life and in my twenties and
you know, learning about you know, how zero to seven
for children is this big time of their life to

(11:01):
you know, be intentional and know that you're programming them
and every day, Like we started our gratitude when they
were drawing stick figures in the car and I just said,
just find something to be, just draw something. So that's
kind of how I led up to you can I
can stop there, But that's kind of what the last
pages of nineteen. But up until twenty twenty, you know,

(11:25):
full time, always mom was my first priority, and I
made that my I was grateful that I was able
to have that be my first time, my only thing
that I focused on, and that intentional parenting. You don't
realize it while you're planting seeds when they're little, but
you keep planning and planning, and then all of a

(11:47):
sudden they're teenagers and you're like, oh my gosh, it's growing,
it's blooming. They listened that, they're talking the way like
you talked.

Speaker 1 (11:56):
Anyway, How did how did that come to you? How
did you learn to be present or to surrender, to
allow the universe to take you where you needed to go.
Most of us are no, no, if it's not this way,
he can't that can't work that way.

Speaker 2 (12:11):
Yeah, kind of like what you were saying. The first
reaction to the place punning down be like great, one
more thing, or why me? Or forget it, I'm done.

Speaker 1 (12:18):
So were your parents active in raising you consciously?

Speaker 3 (12:22):
No?

Speaker 1 (12:22):
So you just were more connected.

Speaker 3 (12:26):
I was more connected. And I look back now knowing
what I know, like just even interviewing for five years
of people and going deep dive and spend such an
amazing expand of experience understanding like you know, we all
come in a different phase in our soul's journey. And
I look at my parents and know that I pick
them for whatever you know, for this growth in this body,

(12:49):
with this little fractal of my soul in this body,
and I'm here to expand and transform and grow as
much as I can. And I know I chose them
for that reason. And so now when you realize that,
you look back at your life and you say, okay,
you know I always am like change your story, change
your life kind of person. I'm not the I don't
dwell in the victim mode, and it's hard for me

(13:12):
when I have clients that talk about their story and
it's when they were you know, all these try and
I understand that and people have to work through that.
But I'm very in my life. There's things that I
looked back at and thought, you know, that was that
was for a reason I had to that was that
they did that for me, you know that I had
to learn that. Yeah. So yeah, then growing and you know,

(13:34):
I have people from you know, high school or something,
we'll say, I remember you used to tell me you'd
send me I AM statements and it's those kind of
things that I don't think I was aware of that
I was doing, but I was always listening. My dad
had Wayne Dyer books, so that was always when you
believe it, you'll see it type books. I remember that
being one of the first ones that he had on

(13:56):
his shelf. But no, for the most part, I was
the oldest child if three girls, and I was kind
of the mom figure for everybody. I was kind of
very independent, and I it's funny when you look back
and see why you've chose those parents, because it made
me be super independent. You know, like forced me to

(14:17):
know what to do. And I look at my girls
and I do the like I'm like, oh can I
I want to do something for them, But I'm like, oh,
then you see, well I had nothing. I had to
figure it out on my own. So there's a there's
definitely yeah, I get that as well. It's very similar.

Speaker 2 (14:35):
You know. We just we were the eighties, you know,
we were the Latin kid Yeah, the feral generation, and
we fended for ourselves and half the stuff that we did,
there's no way I would feel comfortable with her, right,
Oh my gosh, you know, but we all survived and
came out stronger.

Speaker 1 (14:51):
Yeah, but I wonder how much of that was because
we started so much earlier. What do you mean, like
we were latch key kids when from the time we
were little seven and eight. So if our daughter Sienna
would would now at fourteen, we say, okay, figure it
out on your own, she might kind of waffle around
a little.

Speaker 2 (15:07):
Bit because what's happening, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (15:09):
Unfortunately, but so figure it right? Yeah, okay. So then
those moments that led you from one step to the next,
that taught you that everything was happening for you, is
that the kind of magic that you're talking about having
people experience through that program.

Speaker 3 (15:29):
Yes, so I created So the podcast came in twenty
twenty in a intuitive download. It just said you need
to start a podcast, and that was in March.

Speaker 1 (15:39):
And we should mention that your podcast is Uncover Your Magic.

Speaker 3 (15:43):
Yes, And I will still remember the day that I
had to figure out a name for the podcast because
I didn't know who I was going to interview. I
don't know why some god was telling me to do
a podcast. I had no clue.

Speaker 1 (15:54):
And it's a it's a wonderful podcast, very well, highly
highly regarded. I've been doing it for a while. I
listened to it. I love it. So I think you
were supposed to do it for me? No, okay, well
maybe maybe for.

Speaker 2 (16:11):
You and all the other people in that's right, like me.

Speaker 1 (16:15):
So sorry I interrupted you, but so you did no
so podcast.

Speaker 3 (16:18):
Yeah. So the beginning of twenty twenty, the girls were
in fifth and eighth grade, and so I was deep
in driving and you know, that was our routine. And
I remember going to taking this like a little master class,
saying this woman was going to teach how to do
a podcast in six weeks, and I signed up in
the next morning. Richard's like, you signed up for a

(16:39):
class for a podcast, Like you don't even have time
to fold the clothes or you know, like before you
go back to pick the girls up at for school.
And I said, I don't know. I just have this
thing where I have to I'm going to do this,
and it was are you going to start it? And
then you're not going to finish it? And I just
I don't like to be that because I can see
there's been truth in that while I was raising kids,
but I'd want to do something because I was very

(17:00):
you know, loved entrepreneur stuff. And then I'm like, I can't.
I have this is my responsibility. So I would kind
of go in the background. So I'm like, no, you
know what, I'm gonna prove them wrong. Well, like two
days after that, when I was I didn't have a laptop.
I had my phone because my laptop died. I never
needed one anyway, I'd use the girls, you know, when
they were home if I needed it, and I knew

(17:21):
I needed to have a laptop for this podcast class.
So two days later, I get a call from the
school and they said, you need to come pick up
your children. We're in quarantine for two weeks. So I said, oh,
I have two weeks to get use their computers, and
now I can I can really go go in deep.

(17:42):
I don't want to be driving them back to school and
you know, so I have time, so you know how
that goes. It definitely was longer than two weeks, so
I really sove in and just felt, you know, this
technical part of it was like, you know, not my
cup of tea, and but I figured it out and
started wondering who I was going to interview or who
was going to show up and what I was going

(18:04):
to call it. But I'm like everyone has magic, Like
we all have magic. I'm just going to uncover people's magic.
So we'll just who cares who comes on because I
know they'll have magic for me to uncover.

Speaker 1 (18:14):
Right, that's awesome.

Speaker 3 (18:16):
So I just so it's so fun. And I know
you have like over three hundred episodes already. I'm almost
at three hundred, but I haven't missed a week, and
I do it once once every Tuesday, an episode goes out.
But when I look at that journey in those almost
three hundred episodes, my growth, it's almost like writing a
book because you can kind of see like I was

(18:37):
interested in that, like oh, and then I went to
this thing and I'm like, oh now I'm like I'm
into past life regressions, and then I'm into the aliens
and you know, just it just keeps adding on to
where you are, folks, Like what lights you up? Because
that's kind of if it's not a full body yes
for me for a guest, and I'm not ready to
learn that. I don't it doesn't even come into my awareness, right, you.

Speaker 1 (19:00):
Know, yeah, as opposed to me where mar show has
been like so versus this, and there's this, and there's this,
and there's this and there's this. It's such a mess.
It perfectly mirrors my mind. The way it works.

Speaker 2 (19:11):
It's like a beautiful Coli discoce.

Speaker 1 (19:12):
It is, oh, look a squirrel, like that's exactly.

Speaker 3 (19:17):
Right.

Speaker 1 (19:18):
But we've had that, we've had we've learned, like you,
a awful lot, and I would say.

Speaker 2 (19:23):
And we've changed a lot too.

Speaker 1 (19:24):
I would say we're not the same people we were
when we first started the show, for sure.

Speaker 3 (19:27):
Yeah, it isn't that fun to look back.

Speaker 1 (19:29):
Absolutely now you've worked with both teens and adults, right, Yes,
do you find that adults are just kids with more baggage,
or are they a very specific different entity that you
have to deal with in a different way.

Speaker 3 (19:46):
Yeah, I mean you can say that. You know. It
was after the podcast started going I had it was
twenty twenty, and all these people were reaching out, you
need to help my kid. Because I was doing the
first few episodes. They of the teacher was saying, just
start doing solos and I said, I don't know what
I'm going to talk about. They said, well, what if
people say you're good at and I said, well, parenting.

(20:08):
They start talking about parenting. So I started talking the
first two or three episodes, and I started getting Chicago, Florida,
These parents saying can you help my kid? Can you
help my kid? Can you help my kid? And I'm
like really, And so then I had a line of
kids coming to my dining room and I was just
teaching them what I taught, you know, like my kids

(20:30):
their whole life, that's all. I was like, Well, I
do gratitude, intentions, compliments, you know, all the little things
these tips that I could help them kind of go
through this quarantine and not being at school. So then
it was can you help me as a parent because
I don't know how to parent without the tool. I

(20:51):
need you to help me know how to be at
home when you're not on zoom with my child. Right,
So at first I was going to do it for
the parents, and then they're like, no, I want you
to just do my kid. I don't care. And then
it was then they were like, now that my child is,
you know, being like creating this energy in our home
and it's changing our frequency and my husband doesn't know

(21:14):
what's happening, and breakfast is amazing, and you know, the
morning ride to school is so different. They need to
we need to be on the same page because our
children are at this level now because what you've been
teaching them. So then I started helping the parents. But
there's this thing with the when I say parenting, like

(21:34):
why the parents are at a different They're definitely at
a different frequency than the children. And you know, because
of your daughter, Like they come in this world when
the vibration of the earth is completely different than when
we were here, so they're already at a different place
and the parents have already done what their parents did
and they're on their little rabbit hole and or they're

(21:56):
on their like hamster wheels, and you know it's like
they just think this is how it's supposed to be.
Well when they see that, especially for a twenty twenty experience,
for having a child, and you know, those whole thing
stops you know everything, you know, Wow, Like that's such
a wake up call. My girls call it the best

(22:18):
time of their life. So when I would start talking
about that on the podcast, because that was the beginning,
that's where people are like your kids, I said, oh
my gosh, this is the best time of their life.
And they will still if I interview them today, they
would say that was the best time of our life.

Speaker 1 (22:34):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (22:35):
But it was because of how the tools. Even at
fifth and eighth grade, I had told them that everything
is for you. So what is magic in this twenty
twenty thing? Like why are we not going to school?
Why are we not going to practice? Why are we
not going to the you know all the things like
and let's find what it likes? How exciting? Like this
is going to be like cool to find out why

(22:55):
and what it's going to do for us. So so
so going back to the adults versus the kids, I
just you need a when you can't just be I mean,
I know, in a relationship, if you're not growing together,
it kind of like there's a frick. There's some kind
of off energy in a home. So it's like the

(23:16):
parents needed to get on board, and they were the
ones that came to me, and that was what was
really neat because they started seeing like, we're not on
we're not we don't come home, and we're not in
the four corners of the house. Now we're all together.
And because I always would talk to the children about
how important like the phones. I mean, I'm a big
phone police put down, and at that time, you know,

(23:41):
the kids, that was what all they had is access
to their phones or their computers for any kind of
social you know things if they were old enough to
have one, and my girls didn't have one. Maybe Paige
had one at eighth grade. I'm sure she did, but
Presley hadn't had one yet. So so dealing with parents
watching how important it is for the interaction and the

(24:03):
children leading that after and they're going, you're not going
to play your video game. No, Ashley told me, like,
we're going to be present and be in the moment
and enjoy the family, you know, dynamic versus we all
go to our four core. I remember this. I had
this whole entire family in Georgia. I did the husband,

(24:23):
the mother, and the two children. The husband and wife
were getting ready to get a divorce, and she was
a realtter of my friend that I actually helped with
that listened to the podcast. She's like, I think you
should help my real litter with their family. So I
ended up signing all the four all the four family
members up and individually working with each one on a

(24:45):
zoom call, but understanding, you know, the dynamic of parenting
and where they're at versus working. I don't know, it's
like working as a team or seeing life in a
different It was so cool to see that light bulbs
go off, and I'm thinking, gosh, if all the parents
could get it and be in that place of being

(25:06):
the because they do what you do now what you say, right,
So they have you have to be that example and
when you and your husband are not being that example,
there that's all they know. So it's like that's a
preview of their life. I mean, it's well there, it's
like the magic wand right, Well, see what dad and
I are doing? Well, guess what you're gonna do unless

(25:27):
you figure it out right, you know.

Speaker 1 (25:31):
So then how does because I mean, I'll be the
I'll be the first to admit I'm very much a
do what I say, now what I do kind of father.
As much as I hate to be that way. We
talk all the time. Don't be on your phone, and
yet here we are, I'm always on our phone if
we're sitting in our living room together. We want her

(25:52):
to be a part of the family. But yet we
are working all the time on our laptops because we've
got this new business. So how does someone how do
we capture how do we capture that magic? Because in
this day and age, when you're trying to make that

(26:13):
three D world work, we've heard all that that everything's
working for you, not to you. We buy all that
stuff here intellectually, but it's a much more difficult thing
to implement, and it sounds like you're much more adept
at living it. So how does someone that is stuck

(26:37):
in the intellect take the leap into making that be
who they are as a person?

Speaker 3 (26:44):
You know, what comes to my mind first is really
creating like a routine, a morning routine, being intentional, and
that is really one of the first things I teach
in my classes, both parents and the children, and understanding
how important it is to regulate your body, regulate your vibration.

(27:04):
Start be the I always say, be the thermostat instead
of the you know, trying to get to that next
you know, go to start at one hundred. And then
when you start your day, then everyone's going to go, well,
what they do, because I need to get to the hundred.
But if you start at sixty and you haven't done
your whole thing before you started the day, it's going

(27:25):
to take a lot of prop a lot of effort
to get to that one hundred. So I've always shown
the girls they've and I don't mean it like bragging,
but it's so that's so important to me to begin
the day on that in that frequency and that vibration
and that intention and the gratitude and whatever you can

(27:48):
even if it's ten minutes, it doesn't even have to
be five minutes. But even that little intention is with
a family, is showing that I care about how I
show up in the world. I care about, you know,
who I am with my family and what i'm you know,
like whatever's going on inside of you is basically your
your reality, right, You're okay, well all the if you're

(28:11):
going to get in a fight, well you're something's going
on inside of you because you wouldn't have done anything negatively.
You started at one hundred and you did your three
minute whatever you did. But with families that are you know,
don't that they say to do through certain things like
don't be on your phone, and then the parents are
and their their heads are down and they're not listening,

(28:33):
or you know, you can go to many restaurants and
watch the kids on the phone and the parents are
doing the same thing. And I'm like, oh, you know,
like I always look, I am so in the present
moment and I look at then I show the girls.
I'm like, you know, these days are going to be
We're not going to have these days. Like I'm already
seeing that, you know, Presley the junior in high school
and you know now pages in college. Those days are over,

(28:56):
you know, our everyday family dinners. It's like and I
knew that, so I always with my classes and my
parents and like, just remember you're gonna you don't there's
no regrets in parenting, Like you don't want to have
the oh I wish I was more present, or I
wish we sat and had this amazing conversation at dinner.
I wish we started our mornings with gratitude and you know,

(29:18):
giving compliments and starting that being that that hundred degree
mark on the thermostat Those are the things that you
can never take back, right Like in life, you always
want to look back and go, oh, I'm so grateful
that we were so intentional. We were the example because
they're basically going to repeat unless they have some awakening,

(29:41):
right right, right, So how do you.

Speaker 2 (29:43):
Handle a family where you know, well you hear about
it today like with politics, you know, one's spouse's red,
one's spouse is blue, you know, and I can create
problems or they can make it through. So we know
that in this kind of more metaphysical spiritual space, there
are a lot of families where there's someone who in
the wound, someone who thinks it's a bunch of hohoha.
So how would you help someone who wants to start,

(30:07):
you know, being this way more with their family when
there's like maybe the mother or the father figure like
a big role that doesn't believe in this.

Speaker 1 (30:17):
We need to take a quick pause, but would be
right back right after these messages.

Speaker 2 (30:24):
How would you help someone who wants to start, you know,
being this way more with their family when there's like
maybe the mother or the father figure, like a big
role that doesn't believe in this.

Speaker 3 (30:37):
Yeah, So it's that's I'm so glad you asked that question,
because Richard, when I met him, he's come a long way.
It's not because I want him to come a long way.
It's not because I've always said I wish you were
like me. It's not like I've said you need to
go read this book or take this class. Never done that.

(31:00):
I've been who I am and I've done, and I
know I'm on my journey and I know he's on
his journey. The girls have never seen us fight. And
I will say to you, it's because you know, at
the beginning, you know, when you have your first babies
and it's like all this new stuff and you're like,
oh my god, those were like tense times right where
you're trying to figure out how to you know, handle

(31:23):
these children and your marriage and you know, all the things.
But as we got as I got, let's say we
get up to like twenty twenty, just for an example,
like leading up to that, I learned my whole life,
like you know, he knowing that we are together and
that I have a family, that these girls are gonna,

(31:44):
you know, once have a family too and have a
husband he's gonna be They picked him to be their dad,
and I believe that, and they chose me, and you know,
a lot of things had to happen before the grandparents,
the you know, many things had to come together before
we were going to be this family. And I just

(32:06):
know that when I lived my life in my woo
woo and I've always done that. So he met me
that way. So it wasn't that he could have turned
his head and said, you know, I'm Catholic. You need
to come and kneel and do all these things. Well,
that's just not who I am. I don't you want
to and I would go with you, but that's not
my thing, and I would support that. So that's kind

(32:30):
of how I look at because the parent the family
that I mentioned earlier at Georgia, the husband was on
a different page and the wife was too. But to
bring it as a understanding that we all are on
our own path, our souls are completely we're all part
of one. We're all connected, right, But when you realize

(32:51):
like any trigger or any is all I was within me,
you know, or you know when you're looking at each
other and oh, that's driving me crazy, Like, well, why
is because it has to be in me or it
wouldn't drive me crazy having that awareness and having that like,
you know, looking at it from a higher perspective and
showing like the girls would say, Mom, that would drive

(33:11):
me crazy if Dad did that, Like, doesn't that drive
you crazy? And I said, actually it doesn't. Like that's him, honey,
Like that's who he is, and I don't. And it's
so nice to live that way. And I think a
lot of disease comes from that place of thinking that
person has to be some way for me to be
with them, or you know, I have to be in this,

(33:33):
you know, whatever situation in order for it to make
me happy. No, And I just that's kind of how
does that answer the question?

Speaker 2 (33:42):
I think?

Speaker 3 (33:42):
So.

Speaker 2 (33:43):
So it's kind of like you are living your life
and it's you have this person who might not necessarily
believe the same things, but they see you living your
life and the results of how you're living your life
and how people are reacting to you, and you're reacting
to them, and a little bit of osmosis and maybe
it kind of saws the angles of the differences.

Speaker 1 (34:02):
Yeah, it's like it's like what she was talking about
with the kids too, she's modeling, and so eventually he sees, well, wow,
look at this amazing person and she's not getting triggered,
and I want some of that, you know, at least
I know that's what's happened to me with you anyway,
Because yeah, but and it's a such a great thought process.

(34:25):
It's such a great way to live, but so much
harder to actually do. You found your way there, but
how can someone like me who wants to be there
very badly but is constantly losing sight of the ball,
other than setting your morning routine, which I totally understand

(34:45):
because I do the same thing. My morning routine is sacrocyanct,
and it's it throws me off completely, which is actually
probably not good. If I get thrown off of my
morning routine is probably not good, but it happens. So
any tips you can give to for people to find
their way to where you are at some point in
the future or no, it's takes some work, but.

Speaker 3 (35:07):
Well, First of all, you've used hard the words you'd
use right, those are your that's your power. Your words
create your life. Like it's just words are your wand
and I always I am the word police. And when
you start talking about you know, I'm this kind of person,
it's hard for me to do that. Okay, well there

(35:28):
you go.

Speaker 1 (35:30):
So I'm creating my own beis.

Speaker 3 (35:32):
Yes, you're creating your life with your words and your thoughts.
So when you realize that and you can start to
like in this family, I don't know, Abraham Hicks, you
used to listen to them, so in my before children time,
you know, I'm very sensitive to words and things people say.

(35:52):
So if they're going to talk about their their sadness
or their illness or you know, their problems, I'm like, okay,
well there you go, your wishes, your command, whatever you
want to say, those words that speak right. So when
you hear people speaking in this house, they it's always
at the beginning, when the girls are little, I'd be canceled.

(36:13):
That cancel it quick, Abraham Higgsason.

Speaker 1 (36:16):
That cancel cancer, like get it out, qut it.

Speaker 3 (36:19):
You know, stop it, stop the energy, because you're creating that.
So it's like being in a in a relationship, in
a friendship, with being a parent and talking. I can
see parents that say, you know, words that are like
depressing or whatever, and it's just like that's what the
kids are. It's like the energy the thermostat goes from

(36:40):
one hundred to zero, you know, and to have it's
just having an awareness, you know, it's creating a muscle.
And I think having that awareness. And you know, in
our lifetime, you know how we're you know, halfway there,
whatever way it is, unless we start having anti aging
and we're going to live till where two hundred.

Speaker 1 (36:57):
I mean we are, are we?

Speaker 3 (36:59):
Yeah? Yeah? But you know you think you know. I
just was telling Will that I was at this seminar
this weekend with all these amazing people that you've interviewed,
and you're in that in that energy of speakers and
energy healers and you know, light language and darryl Anka

(37:20):
with Bishar all these people that you realize that the
frequency of that experience is where you start your day.
In the last two days, I came home, you know,
last night, and I start my day to day. I realize,
like wow, like I look at the when I'm on
my walk with my dogs this morning. It's like, oh
my gosh. It's like you realize how important that frequency

(37:43):
is in your life and the vibration that you start with.
But when you and when you're in a group of
for a weekend retreat or whatever, you see it differently.
So now you come out of it in your life
and you're looking at it in a different perspective. But
it's so important to really lies that I am I
staying with my because people can go like I've gone

(38:05):
to Tony Robbins like in the in the day and
you know, you get raw raw raw, and you're all
excited and you're ready to start the world on fire.
And then you go home and you're like, oh, well
that was amazing there, but what am I going to
do now? Yeah? But it's just that intention, that awareness
that if it's important enough to you where you know

(38:26):
that you're like my family was the girls, raising them
with those mindset tools was so important. It was like
you just you can tell your values right, like I
always say to the girls. In fact, one of the
programs when part of raising confidence is learning your core
values and understanding that the choices that you make, the
decisions that you make in life are your core values? Like, okay,

(38:48):
family is important, health is portant, Like all the things
that I do reflect my five highest core values. So
having the children all we're all as a family, understanding
they're all change the time, you know, because you have
a family now obviously your family's first, or you're single
and a relationships first. But to understand that all your

(39:09):
choices is all of you know, this the source of
where you're making your choice of your core values. So
it would be to me saying to a parent, well, gosh,
I have to be on my phone and I'm on
my laptop after work. It's hard for me to you know,
be present. Well that's then that's not your value. It's

(39:30):
like that show that in your face, like, well, obviously
I'm not enjoying the present moment. That's not a value
of mine. So being clear as a family with everybody
and what their values are and then you understand. Like
with Richard, you know he's I don't think he's I've
shown him how to do breath work. He's gone to

(39:51):
some like sessions with me and he and he's open
to that. He's gone to my retreats to see but
he doesn't you know, participate or he knows I do
my meditation, he knows how important my automatic writing is.
But that's he doesn't ask me that stuff because that's
not in his He doesn't that's not important, that's not

(40:11):
his value.

Speaker 1 (40:12):
Yeah, well, do you think that your values can change?

Speaker 3 (40:15):
Like?

Speaker 1 (40:15):
Can you?

Speaker 3 (40:15):
Can? You?

Speaker 1 (40:16):
Because what came to mind as you were talking about was, well,
I think I need to write down exactly what it
is I want to be important to me, right, and
then based on that you work towards that. Maybe yes, okay.

Speaker 3 (40:28):
For sure, they all totally they change. They could change
every season. You know, every part of your life that
you know, the health wise, right, like health, if something
happens to your health, that that's going to be the
top value, Like I'm going to do everything to you know,
then I put the family and the other things at
the number two and three or you know. But it's

(40:48):
that awareness that you have because when you make a choice,
especially watching my girls, like making choices with friends, or
you know, being in college and having your independence and
seeing you know, she's going to be making decisions on
her own. But she's so aware and so strong in
her values. It's been an amazing. She's a sophomore this year,

(41:11):
but watching as a freshman her making her choices and
letting her free and letting like you know, you have
to like it was so hard fullieve me, but it
was like, Okay, she's gone. She's only twenty minutes away,
so I'm not like flying this year. So I'm like,
that's a pretty week. But you know when you see
that they have listened and they've you know, you've planted

(41:34):
the seeds, You've shown them how important values are and
where the value stand is, where you make your choices
from the things that happened last year and what she'd
made this city. Oh I can't even tell you. It
could make me cry because it makes you realize, like
what I planted and what I displayed for them, it

(41:56):
all it just like full circle, Like it's amazingful.

Speaker 1 (42:01):
Okay, So I think we need an accountability thing here,
oh boy, because my challenge and I love that, my
challenge is I live my life in the past. I
have not been as successful as I want to be
at living in the present and being aware of things
that I'm saying. For example, because I was just about

(42:22):
to do it again, right, Yeah, So what I need
I need you to do care is to call me
out when you hear something like negative or that is
that is creating the reality that we don't want because
it is important to me. But I don't find myself
as present as I would like to be as often
as I would like to be. So I need you
to help me with that.

Speaker 2 (42:42):
Okay, okay, I'm on board.

Speaker 1 (42:44):
Excellent, thank you.

Speaker 2 (42:45):
I put the tech down.

Speaker 1 (42:47):
Yes, no doubt, that's exactly That's exactly so because it
is very important. One of my core values is family.
Spending time with family. It's very important to me, not
just family, but people. Connecting on a soul level with
people is very important to me, and the times that
I'm able to do it is amazing.

Speaker 2 (43:04):
But I think I want to cut you off for
a second.

Speaker 3 (43:06):
Hair.

Speaker 2 (43:06):
I think you are subconsciously keeping those are still your
values because when you're working, it's because you want to
support your family.

Speaker 1 (43:16):
True.

Speaker 2 (43:17):
So it's not that you're just not present. You're figuring
out because you know this economy and jobs are crazy
and all of this stuff.

Speaker 1 (43:22):
True.

Speaker 2 (43:23):
So I feel like that's I mean, it does take
you away from us in the moment, but I just
want you to give yourself some grace on that one.

Speaker 1 (43:29):
Because thank you. I appreciate that. Yeah, you're right, I
think that though there is a happy medium you to find. Oh,
I agree right that when it's time when we're sitting
in the living room watching a movie together or talking
or having we used to have dinner all the time
together and we've fallen out of that. I'd love to
go back to that and things like that. That's want

(43:49):
I want to be more. That's great intentional with stuff
like that. So I need to keep me on the side.
So thank you your invoice. So Ashtabe. Once in a
while we have a great guest like you, we throw
them some curveball questions just to have fun. Are you
open to a couple of things? First case scenario, just

(44:09):
at the mouse, no worries, like don't feel like you're
on the spot, okay.

Speaker 3 (44:13):
Kind of fun. You know. I've been on a few
podcasts that do that, and it's fun because you you
get to see your intuition, you get to see that
channeling that you know, like what comes out first, It
just trusting whatever you know. Like that means that that
challenge is fun.

Speaker 1 (44:28):
So I have to get to that point because I'm
afraid of what would come out of my mouth.

Speaker 2 (44:32):
I'm afraid what would come out of your mouth too.

Speaker 1 (44:35):
All right, here's the very first curveball question. Let's say
that your soul had a slogan, what would Ashley Garner's
soul put on a bumper sticker.

Speaker 3 (44:46):
Trust the process and embrace your the path, like something
about like just trust you know, trust trust you're on
the right path.

Speaker 1 (44:57):
One of my favorite books of all time is a
Surrender Experiment by Make.

Speaker 3 (45:00):
Sense Me Too. Contact Richard read that.

Speaker 1 (45:03):
I didn't read that book, right, Okay, they listened to it.

Speaker 2 (45:07):
We did.

Speaker 1 (45:07):
Either way. It's a great book. I devoured that book
and that was really what's about right, trusting and allowing
the process and surrendering. And he the whole time, his
old life, he just like you, following followed the path.
So I aspire to be like you and Michael Singer. Okay,
you walk into a bookstore and you see your own

(45:28):
future self has written a book. What's the title and
what's the first line?

Speaker 3 (45:36):
Raising confidence, Raising confident children? The first line is what's
coming to me is they do what you do, not
what you say. Explaining to that first sentence of pulling
people parents in on how important what you who you
are and who you be in front of your children

(45:57):
is that I would like to start that. I do
want to write a book and page and the girls
just started writing a book and Paige is going to
write one on teenage being a teenager with the parents.
She wants me to help her with it, with the
parent's perspective on how she was raised with me. But

(46:18):
I think when parents you don't realize confidence in children.
I know you do because you have a daughter, and
the word confidence is like a dream for you to
have a child child that's confident, Because that word alone
is like if I could just drop my child off
and know that they're confident enough in who they are,
then I don't have that, you know, worry of the

(46:39):
bully or you know, I know they can stand up
for themselves and they have such strong self worth. I
think these days of social media and the pressure that
these children have and the way technology is just it's
like the chat gye. All the things that are happening
right now this time of our life is so transformative.

(46:59):
They need these tools, the confidence of themselves to know
they're exactly where they're supposed to be trusting their intuition,
teaching them intuition, teaching them to follow the breadcrumbs and
take the step and if that, you know, like if
a sport, or taking the viola, if that's pulling you,
and you know, like, then do it because there's something

(47:21):
in that soul, like she's your daughter's probably done the
violin and viola in other lifetimes where it's like she's
recognizing that that's her. It calls her, you know. And
you watch the girls along the way and the things
they chose, the confidence and knowing that they if they're
choosing that it's calling them. Right. So who are we

(47:42):
as parents to say, Nope, I played soccer, so you
better play soccer. And you know, I'm the dad that's
going to be the coach and you're going to have
to be this way in this position, and the kids like, wait,
I just want to go play the piano.

Speaker 1 (47:55):
And that's the hardest thing, right to allow them to
be who they are because we have a certain idea
in our minds. When she was a little oh, she's
gonna wear this dress and she's gonna go do it,
and it's gonna do it. And then when suddenly she goes,
I actually prefer to go this way.

Speaker 3 (48:12):
M hm.

Speaker 2 (48:13):
Oh yeah, she's really into hard rock right now. Oh,
but she plays classical music on the vilas.

Speaker 3 (48:18):
I'm like, okay, so there's a balanced.

Speaker 1 (48:22):
Well rounded You're so right about having her. I'm sure
she did it in the past life because she picks
it up. She can pick up a song by ear
any songs.

Speaker 2 (48:31):
Instantly if she knows the song well, and she can
just pick it up and start playing.

Speaker 3 (48:34):
Wow, it's totally she has done that for sure.

Speaker 1 (48:37):
Okay, last one, because I think some of these are
going to be the same thing. This one's kind of close.
But if your higher self could text you right now,
what do you think the message would say?

Speaker 3 (48:47):
Yeah, Trust does have to be picking up the breadcrumbs.
Never question anything. Always know that you know that you
are right where you're supposed to be and everything is
for you, even if that's the moment you are telling
you know, like oh, I you know questioning it, you know,
like the y in the road right like I go
this way or this way? You know, trust that whatever

(49:09):
your intuition is saying, oh, it's if it's not the
right thing, you're going to learn something and you're going
to veer back to the left side. But it's all
it's part of this like little self, you know, journey
that we wanted to come to Earth because Earth school
is the hardest school and we're going to learn the
most and we're only here for this, you know, barely
any time. And I know time is not even it's

(49:32):
doesn't even exist. But when you look at life like
that and you can say, you know, I can just
trust knowing that I know in my soul that is
leading me to my magic and to look at life
as every day what magic. I mean that the girls
would have to come home every day and tell me

(49:53):
their magic moment. My students still text me their magic moments.
But it's wonderful. It's teaching them. It could be you know,
I saw a rainbow or I went to McDonald on whatever,
you know, it doesn't matter. But it's them realizing like
there's so much magic. There's like that raises your vibration
right to like to look around and say, oh my gosh,

(50:15):
I saw hummingbird today, mom, And oh mom, I got
a butterfly. And I put an intention out there that
I was going to see a butterfly. The girls do
that still to this day. It's just their muscle, you know.

Speaker 1 (50:25):
Yeah, gosh, all right, I love everything about that. Your
podcast is called Uncover Your Magic, and you can find
it everywhere that podcasts are served. If someone wanted to
reach out to you to work with you, whether with
their kids or themselves, to bring magic back into their lives,
what's the best way for someone to reach out?

Speaker 3 (50:45):
Email My name ashleygo Nar at gmail dot com, Instagram
and Facebook are all Ashley Gonner.

Speaker 2 (50:53):
They can DM me or perfect all right.

Speaker 1 (50:55):
And we're also going to add a link to your
website on our show notes so someone can and visit that.
If you just go to Skepticmandeposition dot com, you can
go to her episode page and you'll see those links
laid in and directly, so it's easy for you to
connect with that.

Speaker 2 (51:08):
Ashley. It's just a click away.

Speaker 1 (51:10):
Ashley, thank you such a beautiful conversation. Thank you so
much for coming and reminding us of the importance of
noticing the magic moments, because holy smokes, do we all
need that in a very big way the days.

Speaker 3 (51:22):
Yes, for sure. I loved it so much. It's so
fun being on this side of the interview.

Speaker 1 (51:28):
So well, it's been a pleasure. We'll see you again
really soon, I'm sure.

Speaker 3 (51:34):
Okay, yeah, see you will. Thank you, thank you, and a.

Speaker 1 (51:38):
Huge thank you to you. We hope you've enjoyed this
conversation as much as we have. If you did, and
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us craft the very best show we can so that
we can help raise the vibration of the planet together. Well,
that's all for now. We will see you on the
next episode of The Skeptic Better Physicians. Until then, take care,