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Speaker 1 (00:02):
You're listening to this Skinny with Rico Elmore, presented by
fat Heads. I wear back for another award winning episode
of The Skinny with Rico Elmore. Rico, how are you brother?

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Almost world famous? Almost world famous? This is the award
winning the as voted by by fat Heads magazine, the
best podcast on planet Earth. Yeah that and of course
fat It's Network TV. I mean, don't forget. I don't
have that channel on my direct TV system. Next on
my list, I'm Adam Ri's proud to be a co

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host of this this show where we bring you the
Skinny um the pertinent parts of the information and conversation
with friends and family of Rico's past. It's sort of
a family reunion and this is your life for ric
More and I just have a good time on this
show meeting. Uh these unbelievably interesting people you bring on
the show, and today is no different. Who do you

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have for us? So? Gary Woodroffe, good friend, been a
friend for a long time police officer for how many
years now? Thirty three years? Thirty three years, So he's
he's seen a thing or two about. First of all,
let me say thank you for your service. Uh that's amazing.
Hug a cop. That's all right, that's all right, I

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said it, hug a cop. I said that was a
fletch little, that's right, I said, a hug a cop.
Oh it's awesome. Oh my god, What can I say?
I said it? What can I say about him? He
had a horrible thread Dorman, I guess, uh, the kitty.

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But you know, it's an interesting story. Uh. I was
running a stolen car ring and Garrett, now I'm kid
talking rock story. Not to talk about that, all right,
but no, it's funny when I started, you know, when
I started fat edch you know, uh and oh four

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we had gotten some some local publicity and uh and
when all of that had taken place, you know, the
cool of the I guess the funny thing or the
cool thing was is between my brother and I, which
my brother was working with us at the time. Between
my brother and I, we had the eight hundred number

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ported to our cell phones. So we would be at
work in the middle of work, is like, this is
regal and they're like, Hi, this it is you know
what I mean is this is this car business? It is?
You know? So anyhow so, uh, you know, the funny
thing is is the phone rings and and uh and

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it's Gary and Gary's like Gary's like, Gary's like, hey,
is this fans? I'm like it is? He goes, hey, man, Uh,
you know, I'm a I'm an officer, you know, here
in town, and I'd like to I'd like to come
over and uh look at your glasses and this and that.
So you're gonna like this. So we met in the bar,

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in the back room of said bar that we used
to go to a lot. So you know it's I mean,
he was waiting on me to come out with a
jacket on where I just pulled the code open, you know,
and had all the shades in it. So I said,
all right, here you go. What do you want? Uh
watches on the other side, of course. But anyhow, and

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you know, that was we were trying to think about
this the other day. It was either oh five or
oh six, and it had to be right there somewhere.
But you know what, Gary and I have stayed stayed
in touch in the early years. You know, I still
trying to get things cranking, and he had plenty on
his plate to begin with. But so we kind of,

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you know, start doing more stuff together and you know, uh,
Gary ends up doing you know, like a local TV
interview for us with Fox, and then recently he did
a interview with Million Dollar Genius when we were on there,

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and as Forest Lucas said to me, how did you
get on there million Dollar Genius? I said, I don't know.
They must not screen people that well. But anyhow, so
you know, over the years, Gary and I have become
dear friends, best of friends, and uh, you know, always uh,
always looking out for our best interest within you know,

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my family first and foremost and fat Heads which is
my family too, and uh you know, so it's it's
it's been uh, it's been an awesome ride. We we
somehow crossed paths on vacations and go places the Super
Bowl together and stuff. So uh you know, it's kind

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of like the hair club for men. You know, I'm
not only a client on the owner now of it anyhow,
but now it's it's cool man, you know, he it
you know, starts out as a as a customer, if
you will, and turns into a great friend. So it's uh,
I've been very fortunate of that. And you know, so
that's where we got started. So prior to that phone call,

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you guys hadn't met, never met, and uh, it's an
honor beyond the podcast. By the way, thank you for
the invite and u Enrico's hting it right on. So
you know, I'm looking on the internet, lifelong owner of
a fat head here, you know, and it's so hard
to fit I wear for men with larger craniums. It's
just very difficult until fat Heads comes along, right. So

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I'm looking on the on the web again and see
this company called fat Heads and those are right here
in Indianapolis. So I pick up the phone and make
the call. You know. Rico answers, so like, hey, you
know Gary woodar fair local guy like flying over the
loander of a fat head. Uh, can I come and
check out your stuff? You know, Like, well, we don't
really have a showroom just yet, but yeah, I can

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show you some stuff. So and we don't have any
money either, so that's why we don't have a show room.
So if you pay for your glasses today, you'll have
them next summer. Yeah, So where you wanna link up
as so he suggests this office and behind this location
that uh that he was working at at the time,
and so here I am you Mr. Local police detective,

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you know, slinking up the back alley at two am.
Knock on the door, a little slought opens up. Yeah,
I'm here for Rico and the guy just okay, And
so I fully expect the door opens, you know, I
fully expect to see this guy on the other side
standing there with his coat open, going a man he
wanted by a glasses. But it's nothing like that. He's

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got all these prototypes all over this office, you know.
And and so he says, hey, man, you look really
familiar to me. Have we met some place or something like?
I think we'd remember each other if we had. But
you know, I'm on television all the time. I'm our
public information officer for for our local police department, right,
So he says, yeah, man, that's where I recognize you from.
And just almost instant friends. And I'm a big believer

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that everything happens for a reason and and that you know,
friendship just blossomed over the years. Yeah, and you know
we're we're i mean, super duper pro police and you know,
do a lot of different things with Gary and their department,
trying to help out because you know, it means something

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to us what these guys and gals do, and you
know what, they put it all on the line every day.
You know, a lot like what Jimmy was talking about.
You know, it's uh, it's a it's a cool deal
to to have a lot of friends, as we both do,
you know. And he's got colleagues of course within law enforcement,
and you know they believe it or not, as many

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people don't understand there are people too, so they've got
feelings just like everybody else does, you know. And uh,
they're there to do a job, so they don't come
throw rocks at you when you're mowing the yard, so
don't throw them at them when they're being a cop.
So that's a joke. But anyhow, go ahead. Well it's
kind of fun too because as we've got to know
each other over the years, and and uh, I don't

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think there are too many secrets here, if any, but
we find out that we we've been in the same
place at the same time many times over our careers,
including at the Grateful Dead concert when they have the
big riot. I'm sure everybody listening to the podcast to
remember that, you know. So I'm working undercover there as
a law enforcement officer, as the beard, long hair. You know,
when all that breaks off, you know, we all put

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on our gear and you'll start taking care of right control. Right. Well,
Rico was working there at the same time. We were
in the same place at the same time. Up on
the back started the riot. Yeah, something about you guys
don't take bats. Now I'm kidding, but anyhow, you know,
and the bad thing, I mean, Gary, they were talking
about this, you know, the horrible thing about it is

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is that wasn't deadheads, okay. That was a bunch of
overprivileged young people that were driving their parents range were
over that they gave him enough money just to get
out of their hair for the summer, and you know,
so they didn't have tickets, so they're you know, they
start ripping the fence down and think that that's the

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lawlessness is going to take, you know, go down. Well
guess what there was about oh, I don't know about
fifty of us on the hill. When they were coming
up the hill. There was about ten k nines up
there that was biting anything that would move, including Bud Gray,
which was a police officer. Would we know, and uh

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so it was it was absolutely chaotic, you know, And
then I think there's two nights later, Jerry died and
that was the per se the end of the real
dead so far at least, there's um that aren't familiar
with this. What year was that? And then how how
what was the I guess legal outcome with all those
people that started the riot, Yeah, ninety four, ninety five

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and their midnightties. Anyway, when that occurred maybe and it
was it was literally national news when when that that
situation occurred, and uh, the legal outcome, you know, I mean,
that was one of those deals where I don't even
know how many people were arrested. I don't know if
if any were right once you became at those uh,

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at those events, there was actually a law enforcement compound
right there where we would arrest to somebody for drug dealing.
Let's say we take it right in front of a judge.
There was a prosecutor there, a judge, a public defender,
they had the right there. They'd have their initial hearing,
and off to jail they would go. Because Hamilton County
was not putting up with with the two percent of
people that were coming there to commit you know, serious

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felony crime and and introducing hard drugs l S D PCP,
you know, those types of of drugs in the community.
So we were there to suppress that. All the narcotics
officers were there to suppress that, and uh thinks you
just got pretty out of control with that particular events.
So that was Midnightties at least. And one of the

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only ways that you would know these narcotics guys, I
mean I knew several of them, but the only way
you would know them if you didn't know them is
they were usually wearing a band aid of some some
particular sort on their pinky finger, and you would know
that those were narcotics guys that they would have a

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you know, a snoopy band aid or something like that.
So it was it was deep stuff and it was
I mean, it was amazing. And you know, I had
traveled myself, had traveled with the dead doing you know,
counterfeit T shirt security, you know, trademark infringeman and you know,
went around with them. And it's like Gary said, you know,

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there's nine of those people that were just amazing. Re love.
I'm selling cheese sandwiches to get to the next stop,
and you know which I got all the respect to
the world for. I think it's awesome, you know, sandwiches,
Sandwiches for one and free Love and you know the
rest of the story that goes with that. I'm like,

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this is my gig, I'm in, but I was working,
so it never worked out for me. But but yeah,
it's it's funny that he says that because you know,
we started talking and this is this is forever ago,
but we started talking. I said, Oh yeah, I said,
I was. I was up on that hill, and I
mean we were really what we were What we were

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most scared of is that it would overpopulate the venue
and something bad would really happen and then you couldn't
get the people out of the venue, you know, And
I mean, I don't know what that is that happens,
whether a horrible storm comes up where you can't safely,
you know, take care of the people in there. So

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as as much as they thought we were just being
assholes and not letting them in, because it was it
was there's a serious purpose to that. Remember at the
Who concert several several years ago in Cincinnati, Cincinnati, right,
you know, there was an overrun there and people actually trampled,
trampled and died as a result. So it has nothing
to fool around with. It wasn't just like you said,

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you know, people being jack wagons to keep people out
of the show. I mean there's a serious purpose behind that. Yeah.
So it was a it was a crazy deal. So
we worked a lot of shows out there. Didn't know
it at the time, and uh and definitely definitely had
had probably our shares of runners with each other on
a good, good way that because if they would get

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somebody out out in the parking lot being you know,
disorderly or something, we had people on carts, we just
scoop them up, haul everybody back to the compound and
they would deal with them there. So it was you
say we I mean what were you were there as security?
H yeah, I didn't know you were doing security. So

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remember remember Dick, dangerous Dick. Yeah, so, oh my gosh,
dangerous Dick. I would have never thought of him. So
I was on his show one night and he did
the night show one I was on his show and
we were going through this whole deal about how there's
a secret room underneath the hill and you know that,

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you know, there's party, a separate party that goes on.
I mean, he had this total elaborate story. I've got
to look him up. I know, I looked him up
and I think I found him on on the book
and uh and but I don't know. And you know,
so of course Madison we were talking about Madison Taylor.
Well you know, so I would work or run all

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the X fasts, you know and security yeah, riko Elmore Yeah,
this guy there. So then uh, when you've when that finished. Um,
this is funny because now I'm interviewing you on your
own show like this, then you've started selling cars or then.
So so I was I was selling Um, I was

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selling cars and still doing it. Okay, I was, I was.
I was, uh in ninety in nineties six I started
at Dan Young and I was still doing security. I
literally did security from the age of sixteen until I
was almost thirty. So it was I mean, it was, oh,

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it was, it was. It was fantastic. Probably threw me
out of something somewhere you need thrown out of here
right now, But that's aside the point. But you know, man,
that to me, this is part of the of the
backstory of this guy, and it tells you from whence
he comes and that that all this with with fantage,
I wear it didn't happen by accident, you know. I mean,

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this is the American dream happening right in front of you,
which to me is a really cool deal. You know,
I mentioned this on on the show you were talking
about the the Million Dollar Genius Show. You know, this
is a guy who was in Las Vegas saw a need.
You know, I can't find eye where that fits all
of us with a large head commensurate we understand, and
went out and created it from nothing. You know that

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that just didn't exist before. And now you know the
multiple lines and has a something for everybody and high quality,
high quality I wear. You know, to me, that's really
a cool story. How many pairs of fatheads do you have?
Just about all of them? All of them, all of
them a great many. Yeah, so you've got the probably
a few one of the kind prototypes that uh yeah,

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they probably didn't make it out there in in public,
but that and that's the cool thing. Like Gary, So
there's two things like if I have something new, you know,
I'll get it to him or I'll wear it or
one of our other fine figured head people that we know,
or like when we do photo shoots, it's like, who

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do you hire to do photo shoots or who do
you beg to do? I'm with you, Gary me. So
we're male models. That's really what it boils down to.
So it jumps right out there at the president of
male models and so I mean police to male model,
and you know, yeah, I think it bore six ft tall,

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three head plus pound man, you know, just jumps right out.
They're like, mate, and I get that a lot. We
can see a model, I said, yeah, it's a male model.
Why yes. So the scary part is there's a trailer
that exists, is probably right there in the back that
has my picture on it, about eight feet tall. I'm
just expecting to get a phone call from some cop

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buddy of mine in Pennsylvania or New Mexico or something. Hey, dude,
I swear I just saw your picture on a trailer
going through here. As as we wipe them out going
by them with the trailer going a bit fast. Yeah,
so I don't you know, I don't know where that
happened at, but I feel sorry for the people who
have to look at that. Well, he keeps a lot
of the bad away here. We fit the demographic, that's

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for sure. So you absolutely have the cop aviator. You
know the classic mirror shields. So you know what that's
called our our aviator? Like that? The law, the law,
the law, the law. Yeah, how about that. That's a
pretty cool set, friend. I can't so I feel stupid

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for even asking that. If you have a pair of
the law, thanks for knowing, USA. And this hurts the
knuckle duster XLS, especially the brand new style that we
have to have a titanium alloy. I mean, that's that's
the best pair of eye where I have ever had
on my face. And uh, the knuckle duster, right, and
it's it's got the it's got the ultracool factor. But uh,

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but they're also a great pair of eye where also
have all the attributes that somebody like me looks for
and they sent it's it they fit. So how did
you get into the how did you get into the
cop business? Alright? So, uh, my dad just move right
along there. So my dad is is a was a

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police officer for for twenty years and he was a
two term chief at Frankfurt p D. And so I'm
just falling into footsteps and those footsteps are way too
big for me to really follow in. But you know,
I wanted to blaze my own trail after that. And uh,
uh you know saw him what he did, and uh,
you know, I had a lot of respect and honor
for that. So so graduating from uh from high school,

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went to Arlanican High School right here in Indy, and
uh went right into into the military and US Army
and the military police and started down my own path
in the in the cop business, if you will, right,
and uh so served overseas for for a little while
and uh and then back here right here at Fort
Harrison for a year at the Army c I D

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Office and then joined Frankfort Police. You know the uniform
that I wore my first day on the job there,
there was the same uniform my dad or the last day,
no kid. Yeah, very cool. Yeah, it's pretty cool, very cool.
So uh, of course I wore that uniform one time
and retired it. But so, uh anyway, he he had

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some inspirations there in the in in Frankfort. My dad's
pretty awesome guy. And I'm not just saying that because
he's my dad. He's a pretty awesome guy. I've heard
other people say he's awesome, so I can attest to
verify that. You are biased. I am definitely biased and
I should be. But anyway, so he after he retired
from law enforcement, he went into private business for ten
years and then decided to come back and run from

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mayor and was the mayor up there for two terms
and then through the nineties and uh so once that
was that was over within two thousand. You know, I
always missed living down here in Indianapolis. Just never really
got used to living in this old down So what
you're trying to say is you don't think you were
a true hot dog. Definitely not a true hot dog.

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I cannot absolutely attest to that, damn it. So I
transferred down here to to Lawrence and uh and been
with with Lawrence p d since then. So it's been
a terrific career. And congratulations on the new position deputy
chief again. And it's an honor to be back in
the Chief's office and we're going to continue to make
a difference and and uh, you know, I've got a

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few years left in me, definitely in the legacy leaving stage.
But that's an honorable place to be, well, and then
you can become mayor. Uh politics is not for me.
The mayor of fat Heads fat Heads brand ambassador. You're
on the truck right, so you got one part of
it done. We'll just wrap a vehicle with him on

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it and let him drive that. I don't know if
the world some things, the world is not already for
one of seeing those raps where the people are setting
in the driver's seat, it looks like they're setting come out.
May we can even we can do it with him
just where he's got the glasses on, lucking out the window.
But it's a wrap. Are you in your blue uniform

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um when you model Fatheads? And no, we're not allowed
to do that. But uh and and I've had a
good fortune in my career to have spent most of
it in playing clothes. Um. That's always been my interest.
It didn't spend a lot of time in uniform over
the years. The detective side of the house has been
more of my career interest. And uh, I've been very

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fortunate in that regarding my thirty three years, probably twenty
six or twenty seven of it has been spent in
in plain clothes, working cases in one way or the other,
starting off working like all of us did in the
in the eighties, working drugs, and then working in every case.
You can imagine all the way to violent crimes and
then uh and then uh working my way up the
supervisory chain to being promoted to deputy chief a couple

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of times now. So it's a it's an honor to
be able to have that impact on our department. Do
you enjoy uh, crime drama or movies about legal crime?
I mean, because that's that's what you do for a living, right,
I can. I can imagine you're watching a movie one,
this is stupid, this wouldn't happen. Yeah, some of some
of you do, some of you don't. Know. You can
appreciate the ones that have really good technical advisors. For instance,

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the movie Heat. If you remember Heat, al Pacino uh
and uh Swarzenegger, right, yeah, film in the nineties. It's
a Michael Man film. Yeah to Michael Man film. So
it's exceptionally well done. But the technical advisor in that
was just really sharpen. The actors clearly trained significantly and
picked up on a lot of little things that cops

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do that Michael Man actually included in the movie. Uh
that that that was very interesting. But then it was
not the donut shop deal, so don't even get that
I won't even bring up donuts, the uh, the reality shows,
the cops and and things like that. I just can't
get into those that It's like spending another day at work,
and you don't you know, when you leave work, you

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kind of want to leave that behind. Family feud? Well,
what is your family feud show? Rico was saying that he,
you know, when he's got problems all day, he wants
to go home and watch something mindless. It's family feud
for him. What is your I guess, guilty pleasure? You know,
that's a great question. I would have to say sports
of about any kind big football fan, and uh, I
love watching the sports. But and then how it's made,

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and I think we share that trait as well. Yeah,
I've got someone of an addiction problem without it's made.
Hold on, honey, honey, get in here. They're making biscuits,
are how to how to make screws? Here, She's like,
this is stupid, it's it's it's fascinating. You always learned something.

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But yeah, I would say sports is definitely my my
my thing for sure. I enjoy watching football. Pro football
is a big deal. But you know, about any kind
of sport, ye, see iol dv are how it's made.
But if you ever want anything, if you ever want
to look at any law and order that's ever been

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made in in this world, we have a DVRT, I
think because there's no more room on the DVR because
law and orders on there. So I love to watch
how it's made. But if I deleting the law and orders,
there maybe law and order at my house going on.
So the pass all that. There have been different television
shows that have captured it over the years. NYPD Blue

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the first three or four years did a fantastic job
at capturing the true interaction between between the detective squad
and how detective squad interacts with the other moving parts
of a department. And they really did a nice job
in capturing that. And then the character development and that
was excellent also. But look at the actors, you know,
I mean, you've got Dennis France, you know, Uh, Jimmy

(25:44):
Smith's in the in the beginning, and and uh that's
pretty incredible too. I'm not too turned away from law
and Order. I can get into a little bit of
it because you know, the thing of it is that
a lot of people I don't think I understand is
it is loosely based on true events that have that
have happened, and they do a pretty decent job. I mean,

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of course there's some drama in there that doesn't need
to be but that they stick into it. But you know,
for the most part, I I kind of feel like
they do a decent job with it. I mean I
get tortured watching it. I mean, I love it. But
the only thing with with things like law and order,
and in particular the C S I S and and
I get it, the entertainment factor, but a lot of

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people come to expect that when we go to a
jury trial, they expect that to actually exist. What do
you mean, it took you two years to solve this homicide?
You know, Yeah, that's how long it took. Well, they
did it in two weeks on there, What are you
talking about? They did it in an hour on on
c s I. You know, yeah, with a black light
and some baby powder. Right, you don't do that. So

(26:51):
don't forget the yellow glasses, the yellow glass of yellow glasses,
believe it or not, glasses. The we have to undo
the C S I factor when we go to court.
We have to explain to a jury that this is
not c S. I. This is not Law and Order,
not reality television necessarily. You know, this is a real
courtroom with real people and and we kind of have

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to undo that factor, believe it or not. That's uh yeah,
that's interesting. And you will be bored, you will be
more than by trial, and hopefully it'll be over and
then a bunch of garbage and then it's going to
be over. How about High Tower Bubba Smith is a
high Tower and Academy. That's your favorite show like movie? Right, Um,

(27:35):
it can be any of it. It doesn't have to
be true too true to form. My all time favorite
movie is absolutely The Fugitive. Uh, Tommy Lee Jones, Harrison Ford.
Harrison Ford played an incredible role. But but the part
that Tommy Lee Jones played is just I mean, that's awesome,
it's great. I am going to use the line before
I retire, bring me a chocolate donut, well chocolate sprinkles

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on it, you know, the line from the Tommy the
Jones drops dropped the gun. Richard right dropped the gun?
Right Jones. He's great in that, he's great in that
he captured I mean, the whole thing was just dead
on and I read that he um the line in
the tunnel before Harrison Ford jumped down the waterfall, and
he said, I didn't do it, and Tommy Lee Jones says,

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I don't care. He added that was not in the script. Yeah,
I don't care. I actually have said that. That's one mine.
So you're still going to Jael, we don't care. I
don't care. Yeah. So we've got this whole thing, especially
among our little detective crew there, that we get a
movie line in. We'll all say that movie lyne in,

(28:41):
I got that movie. I got this. It's like the
whatever the movie was when they were doing how many
Times Cold You Save Me out? He tried that totally.
We're not trying to be alphabe, but we we have
totally dubbed that. I got lines in from Tombstone. I've
got lines in from all the favorites. You I like
the on the other guys. Great, great move. Michael Keaton

(29:08):
quoting TLC the whole movie. Listen, guys, you gotta creep
and don't be chasing water phones. Yeah, you know scrubs
that If Mark Walbert is like, uh, are you quote
t LC? Here's what are you talking about? I don't know.
That's the best that desk pop and he got his gator,

(29:28):
got his gun taken away from him, and got to
put the wooden pistol in his ulster. Within our detective squad,
it is a hoot. We actually have characters that are
exactly like the other guys, especially the Wallburg character and
and uh and the other characters. He has the well
fare feral character in particular, and we rise them all

(29:50):
the time. It's classic. I'm a big hockey, you gotta
let me five. We have a detective that is exactly
like that. We we chuckle them every single time. It's
a hoot. That is great, so unbelievable. So I love
that one, Like like the old school Tombstone, you know,
I know it's a long time ago, but yeah, the
and then heat for for another top film was very

(30:14):
well done. The whole chase between the the good guys
and the bad guys and each one of them knowing
what the other one is doing. But I think macas
original question. How about Police Academy? Yeah, that's it. I
mean was it was was high Tower the guy or
was was Bubba Steve Gutenberg his breakout role? I think

(30:35):
what was the old lady's name? The old Lady that
was one of the cadets. Yeah, that's her name, Old Lady,
Old Lady. It was good enough to make seven more. Yeah,
it was like eight of them. Are you talking about
the woman that had a soft voice. Yeah, that was Hooks. Yeah, no,

(30:55):
that was that was the black gal. Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And they used the same joke in every movie. Right,
she talked like this and then she'd scream at the
somebody at the end. Worked every time. That's kind of
this kind of kind of reminds me where you said
there are seven of them, you know, it reminds me
of the of the deal where I worked the Kiss

(31:21):
Farewell Tour, Kiss Farewell to the Farewell Tour Kissed Farewell,
We're really serious Farewell Tour. About seven of them later.
I think they kind of shut her down. Yeah right, crazy.
Did you know that the do you know where the
Kiss Army was formed? Tara Hate You got it. Finally
you got one of the some of your worthless uh

(31:47):
the skinny brought to you by fat Heads t shirt.
I'm collar ten. Yeah, yeah, you're caller ten and you're
going to get a five XL shirt but works for you.
One size fits all. With us. So, Gary, you seem
to know a lot about the movie The Heat. Is
this true? I think I heard or read that al
Pacino and Robert de Niro didn't even do a scene

(32:08):
together during the shooting of that movie. Okay, is that
is that right? Or maybe just a ten seconds scene
they did the one scene diner together that was filmed
at so many different angles. That was the only scene
that they did together, So only one day they shot together,
apparently the entire movie. Um, I've said that piece of
trivia as well, and it was interesting, but but what

(32:30):
a phenomenal movie. Well filmed Michael Mann film of course,
so it's it's lush landscape and and and great score.
But uh yeah, well done. So as a out of
a plain closed detective is at the term playing close,
I mean you still have the power to pull somebody over, right,

(32:51):
only f there's rules to that. Yeah, there's rules, only
different rules that if you're in if you're in playing clothes,
you can only pull them over if you're in a
marked car. If you're in playing clothes in an unmarked car,
you cannot pull them over. If you're in an unmarked
car like with logos, unmarked car in a in a uniform,

(33:16):
you can pull them over. But what it what it was?
What I mean, I think you could probably explain better
why that why that was put in place. So for
a violation of a traffic law in the state of Indiana,
for a police officer to pull you over and write
you a ticket, the officer either has to be in
uniform and or driving a fully marked car has to

(33:38):
keep impersonators from pulling you over for absolutely no reason. Now,
of course that still happens on occasion. That's crime. Now,
a plane closed officer in a plane vehicle can uh
stop somebody only if it's if it involves a felony,
you know, if if you've you've seen something, or if
you know recognize the person has a warrant, then you
can go ahead and do that. But the best decision

(34:00):
you can make, and I've driven an unmarked car for
years and years and years, is to get on that
phone or get on that radio and get your marked
cars there. Let them do the stop. That way, it
just removes all question. But there have been circumstances, of course,
where we're doing the perhaps of surveillance on on a
robbery crew for instance, and you want to use speed, surprise,
and aggressiveness of action to take them into custody. There

(34:21):
are those situations as well, but you've got to make
sure you got that marked car and that uniform officer
they're real close, real quick, to avoid any misidentification issues
that might come up. So you know, a defense attorney
could say, I didn't know he was the police. Is
I didn't know what I Yeah, I didn't know he
was the police. So if you have that marked car
and that that uniform officers there, it helps negate that

(34:42):
that argument. Ultimately, it's all about getting successful convictions in court.
That's really what it's all about, and uh and trying
to make society a safe a place of course, but
as far as the law enforcement side of it, getting
that conviction in court is where you're going with that.
So and by the way, in the court, they don't
call him police, they call cops in court. He didn't

(35:03):
know he's a cop, so he thought he could fire
at the car. Not not allowed to do that. So
the goal is to become plain clothes so that then
you you can just sit back and let somebody speed
by you going eight five and you're like, fine, it's
not my responsibility. I don't have to pull that guy over, right,
I'm gonna stay. I gotta get home anyway. Well, if

(35:26):
there if there's an immediate danger that's posed, that's that's
one thing you might call that in but right, yeah,
you're you're there for what I go behind. So only
speed when you see a cop that's in plain clothes
and an unmarked cars, like just just to remember, at
some point there's probably gonna be that marked car, that

(35:48):
uniform officers some plays pretty close, pretty close. When that
radio outruns you being an asshole, you're gonna get pulled over.
You might have a little bit of different perspective. I've
done some of those calling a resistor, we gotta resist
her out here. Don't see the family guy where he
pulls up on Peter and uh, he's like this is

(36:10):
when Peter was exploring his roots and thought that he
was from the African American descent, and so he was
he was putting it out there that he was. Well
he gets pulled over and and and they're they're starting
to jack with him bad and he's of course, you know,
profiling himself on there. But yeah, it's yeah, Now, the

(36:34):
the program of running by any car that you know
is a known police car, just rest assured. The windows
are probably tenant if it's an unmarked car, unless you're
driving what Gary drives. Which that's why I love about
this guy. He finds, by all means, the oldest and

(36:55):
raggedy ass ride that they have still runs still. But
the brand new cars they've given him, he gives them
right to send my own patrol here and takes and
takes the how many miles are on on on your
on your unit? Thousand hundred, ten thousand, and I mean

(37:16):
just it's a two thousand three and it is the
oldest car in the fleet. But the officers that are
doing the job every day patrolling, they need the new cars.
And and uh yeah, I'm Gary and I don't fit
in the new cars either, so far have to ride
with him anywhere. It's it's a bit weird, so I don't. Yeah,
but that's the that's the cool part. And that says

(37:36):
a lot about this guy and who he is, you know.
That's uh yeah, it does, it really does. I mean,
I mean, if it was me, i'd probably only take
a new car, like, yeah, give me one of those
new ones. Are you talking about him? Six months later.
This car is too old. Give another like war out.
I tried to really, we've tried to really embrace the

(37:58):
servant leader con ups and and uh, the officers appreciate that.
You know, they're the ones out there doing the job
every day and put their lives online. It's our responsibilities
leaders to get them what they need, get them the
proper training, the proper equipment, and really to get out
of the way in the new chief. Gary's boss. Unbelievable person.
I mean, he is a he is a great guy.

(38:20):
And anybody that would hand right me a letter thanking
me for the use of some of our equipment and
some giving them some shades, he's got my vote. I mean,
that's just what kind of guy is. And uh, you know,
originally I was upset that Gary to get it, because
of course I wanted Gary, my boy, to get you know,
the chief position, and uh, you know a lot. The

(38:42):
guy that got it is a is a is a
phenomenal person, and you know, has Gary do what he
needs to do to keep the keep the troops rallied
and rolling, and you know, so it's it's a it's
a it's a cool deal. How it worked out in
the In the end, I guess, well, like we said
at the beginning, everything happens for a reason, and and uh,

(39:04):
you know, he's a great guy. He's brought some some
great ideas to us, and uh and just a good
overall people person, which really helps. And and so that
that means a lot. Thank you. I've got a legal question.
Maybe you can help me with. UM. He's done great, Garrison, Right,
this isn't a calling races, sort of a call it
public service announcement p s A. This will help our

(39:26):
listeners too. I know our listeners have been thinking about
this is good? Which one is correct? I've heard while speeding,
I've heard, uh, if you're nine miles an hour over
the speed limit, I've heard the cliche nine you're fine.
But I've also heard eight is great. Nine your mind?

(39:49):
Like your your mind. I'm gonna write to the ticket
if you're nine over now, friend, do you want to
call police? Official advice from any official police department. We're
just having a conversation here. If I was driving by you,
I'm eight miles an hour over the limit? Do you
let me go in nine? You're like, all right, I'm

(40:11):
getting that guy. You haven't understand. For for me, I
was never really the biggest traffic enforcement guy in the world.
Uh So my threshold was much higher than most because
what you're saying, from a professional opinion is the traffic
laws are stupid. I don't know what I'm quite saying
going that far ahead to challenge to state spring of

(40:32):
Steed limits are optional. Don't even look at those when
you go by a guideline. But uh you know, different
officers have different different thresholds, and uh so I can't
speak to what every officer does, but I know mine
was typically pretty high when I was doing that type
of activity. Uh you know, anywhere from twelve to fifteen.

(40:53):
It would kind of depend depend on things. To you
want to get you want to you want If you're
looking for traffic enforcement, let's go after the people that
are reckless driving, dangerous driving, and not necessarily somebody who's
going a few miles our over this. If you're going
to thirty eight and a thirty I say that's five.
If you're if you're a taxpayer, all right, Adams said,
it's all right, folks now here this. But if you're

(41:15):
a taxpayer, do you want your tax dollars spent on
somebody that's going five or six miles miles nine over
the speed limit, or do you want us to bring
bring in a hold up guy, a burglary person, or
bring in a guy that's going twenty mile an hour
that's endangering families on the road. I mean, I get,
I totally understand what you're saying, and you're fine. And

(41:36):
Adam's mind at nine or whatever it said. You know,
I don't know what all that was. I think he
made all that shut up at that's inside. There's there's
there's some some some officers. That's that's where they're at,
you know, and that's they're pretty know what Gary slogan
is anything, I don't care. I'm driving a mark car,
not pulling you over. Kidding, felony are better just slogan?

(42:00):
Felt here better at open waving a weapon out the car?
Your mind? You know. The different officers have different points
of focus on their careers and and and people committing
violent crimes. Has always been one of mine from from
really from day one, where other officers, you know that
traffic enforcement one of our captains right now, I mean,

(42:21):
he's a motorcycle guy, you know here he did there
for a while he was writing four hundred tickets of
my month, which is just that's more than I've written
in my entire career multiplied. So he got his bonus,
so it uh, yeah, he got an extra he got
an extra new set of pends and his uh drawer
when he got back. But that's his thing, you know.

(42:41):
And and if you've had a loved one who's who's
uh you know, had harm come to them as a
result of a reckless driver or speeding driver, you know
you're all for that. But thankfully, different officers have different
focuses for their careers and things that means something to
them and and it saying to their soul, and that's
that's where they go with their career. You know. The

(43:02):
interesting thing, I mean exactly what he's talking about. I know, uh,
you know several guys that worked for him, and Gal's
great amazing people, uh, great department, uh, great camaraderie, morale,
And I mean that comes from the top, from chief Offman,
from you know Gary here, you know, the deputy chief

(43:23):
and so forth. And you know the interesting thing I have.
One of my other very best friends is the sheriff
out in Henry County where I grew up, which Gary
knows Rick well as well. And and you know the
thing about it is with Rick, he has turned. I

(43:44):
think there's four guys, so they cover all the shifts
during the day, and I think, like like the metal shift,
but they're working interdiction. Drug interdiction out on at the
interstate on my seventies, so I seven and he goes
through Henry County. So these guys are out there working it.
So drug interdiction is having the knowledge in the eye

(44:08):
to see something and go that that that that looks shady.
We're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna first see
if we have probable cause to pull them over. Maybe
they were speeding, maybe they have a tail light out,
maybe they have a break light out, you know something
probably cause to get them stopped. And I mean you

(44:30):
can't just pull people over, go hey, man, you look shady.
What's up? You know? I mean, it's so you get
them stop. But I mean these guys have the same thing,
these these smaller departments. You know, the great part about
it is is it's almost more of a manageable deal
where you can go after select things. You know, like

(44:51):
the interdiction. How many pounds of of myth did they
just got a huge It's three fifty thousand dollars were
the meth they just they hooked somebody for as yesterday
or the day before. And you know what, I love it.
I love it. I had a love one die of
a drug overdose. And you know what, those people that
are serving that stuff up, they've got a special place

(45:14):
in hell. And that's the that's the bottom line. And
I I'll make no qualms about it. I'll support these
guys till the day I die, pushing it and trying
to help them, you know. I mean, we bought a
computer for one of the departments that didn't have the
funny it's you know what, if that that we spent

(45:34):
saved somebody's life, I'll spend it five more times, you know.
And that's that's truly the way the way I look
at it so well, and and I'm not just saying this,
but this is a guy that that does things like
that and doesn't ask anything for it. You wouldn't know
it unless he talks about it a little bit. And
only in certain circles will you do that. And that's
that's to me. That's a really cool thing. You know,

(45:54):
it's not out there on the news every day. So
and say, hey, look, you know fantasy, were just bought
a computer for for agency. You know, he's doing this
stuff because it's the it's the right thing to do,
and it's on his heart and and he has the
fortunately the ability to be able to do it and
most importantly, pulling together resources, pulling together people. And I
think we're both sharing this trade of being able to

(46:16):
know people. You know, you think of of the weirdest
place you might know someone you know, and people I
guarantee you people immediately think O, Rico know somebody or
Gary knows somebody you know, and and to pull those
resources together. You know, when this mutual loved loved one passed,
you know, it was just a few days and we
have police officers, politicians sitting right here in this room setting,

(46:40):
a member of Congress and his staff, you know, Deputy
Chief Hair and Andy, Deputy Chief Gary Hair you know
said loved one's mother, uh you know, and another mutual
beautiful friend of ours that that's running a mental health
deal for this ay. You know, so it's a it's

(47:02):
a it's a big deal. You know and and uh
and watching this stuff happen. I mean, I know that
every I know that the hustle will always be there,
okay with all of these people and the things that
they're doing. But the only thing I could tell them
is you're killing somebody. You're hurting them. Quit hurting people,

(47:22):
Stop killing them, Stop doing this. I mean, we've got
a frigging full blown epidemic going right now with heroin
and all this other bullshit. And you know what you got, idiots,
you know that that are in the NFL setting during
the national anthem, I got an idea. Throw that son
of a bit out of the league, okay and talking

(47:43):
bad about the police officers and stuff like that. I
guarantee you this. The next time some ship goes down,
somebody's breaking into your house, call a fucking crackhead. Sorry,
so you know, call a crackhead to come over there
and save your ass. And so what about Tony Stewart
going out there with his two tone? Stewart went after him. Boy,
so did Brad Keslowski today. He I mean, these guys

(48:05):
are laying him out. Jerry Rice. Jerry Rice said, Hey,
I understand you want to protest, don't ever disrespect that
flag again, and so you know, it's it's it's it's
a shame that you have this worthless public figure like
him that could take his public figure, you know, his status,

(48:27):
and be so much more. Chris Little, Chris Little. He's
going around talking to people about, you know, about what
it means to bully somebody truly, you know, picking on somebody.
His youngest son has autism. So he's like, these people
have to understand that this is you know, this is

(48:48):
the program and this is what the deal is and
uh and uh you know it's uh it you know it.
It's just everybody needs to be helping everybody. Man. And
you know what, the law enforcement that's out there, don't
like them. Try it without them, Okay, that's all I
can tell you. Try it without them and check and

(49:09):
check yourself. See how that works. When you've got people
blowing your windows out and taking everything you have and
they're setting back in their car. I hope it works
out for you. Well, you know what, it doesn't work out,
And thank god for Gary Woodrows of this world and
and the other you know law enforcement. Thanks man. It's
it's the officers are out there doing the job. Every
day that they deserved the credit. But yeah, thank you

(49:30):
for saying that, and uh, we've we've been at it
for a long time. And and here's the other side
of that or another piece of that would encourage the
listeners to go look up Peels Principles. They're called and
uh they were written by uh by the first Commissioner
of the London Metropolitan Police Department in the eighteen twenties.

(49:52):
They're still as relevant today as they as they were
back then. And one of the sos A P E
P E l apostrophees Peels Principles and there's nine of
them that that he wrote, and uh, it's basically a
foundation of modern policing. And one of the concepts says
that the people are the police, and the police are
the people. In other words, the only authority that we

(50:14):
have as law enforcement officers is what you give us
as the police. That makes sense what I'm saying there,
Hopefully you know we're going to have the authority to
do There are laws that are enacted, the police are
the people who are responsible for enforcing those laws on
behalf of the people and those of us that have
been at it for a certain amount of time now

(50:35):
really embraced that concept and and understand it that that
the people are the police and the police are the people.
And I think it's important to educate folks on on
some of that instead of point the figured about all
the police as followers. And that's horrible that that's never
come out. That's the first time in my life I've
ever heard that. Yeah, and you know, that's something that's

(50:56):
somebody out to say. Man, you know, have any idea
what this says? You know what I mean? And and
people understand that because that is what it is. It
is it's the foundation of modern policing. And you go
to it and you're like, yeah, I dig it. I mean,
all night of them boom boom boom. It's impressive. Our
chief and I we've actually talked about somewhat ingest some whatnot.

(51:18):
You know, let's just scrap our entire general orders and
let's just put Peel's principles out there to our officers
and how to be good cops. You know, is that funny?
That's true? You'd probably less confusing, right, exactly right. General
orders are written by a lawyer, you know, attorneys. Everybody
throwing their nickels in there, it's like, no, that's that's

(51:38):
not the way this really works. So right, So yeah,
encourage you little listeners to to check out Peel's principles.
They're readily out there and uh, it's it's enlightening. If
nothing else about this is the foundation of what law
enforcement in a modern society is supposed to look like,
feel like, and and and act like. And it's uh,
it's worth while reading. So what does uh Gary Woodruff,

(52:02):
who is the deputy chief police chief of the Lawrence
Police Department, I'm sorry, what does he want to do
in that next phase of of not your career, but
your next phase of life? Are you seeing yourself on
a on a bass boat somewhere on the beach. Where
are you gonna retire? I'm not that guy. Um. You know,

(52:22):
I've worked hard over over my career so far to
develop a post career endeavor of executive protection. And uh,
I worked very hard at that and put myself in
a position to be able to do that. I've had
some incredible experiences working for different mayors and and even
people like like Rico. You know't say anything, Gary, we're
on the air, We're not We're not giving Awayny secrets here.

(52:44):
It's the first first rule of executive protection. Don't give
away any secrets. But Neil Diamond skit on Saturday Night Live.
Shut up, Gary, Come on, Gary knows what happened over
there there night. No, it's hilarious. But uh yeah, so

(53:05):
that that's on the radar, and uh probably someplace like
Las Vegas or and then maybe I'm not moving to
Las Vegas. You're not moving to Las Vegas. You're gonna
ride this mule town with me. I don't need to
be playing that. I don't know. Well, we'll see, we'll see,
We'll see where it is it right now? See how
can I cleaned this up? Might give a care has

(53:28):
not broken yet as far as a law enforcement is concerned.
I feel still feel like I'm contributing something, but that
give a care breaks or if you feel like you're stopped,
you're not contributing anymore. It's time to get out. And
uh so I haven't felt either one of those two
things yet, and I'm thankful for that. But uh yeah,
I'm sure there's something we're gonna be doing with with
with the eyewear line here, you know, and and uh

(53:50):
all this is happening for a reason. I feel very
firmly convinced about that. And the thing, the passion that
we share is that we we've lived with these craniums
for our entire lives and and this stuff it's meaningful.
I mean, it's not just fashionable. It's uh, it's it's
it's important. It's almost a health health thing, you know.

(54:10):
No more headaches, no more digging into the side of
the temple's good looking dudes without glasses. I mean, how
did we ever make it? I mean, let's get just
putting it out there other and wearing stuff that is
clearly not fitting. Right, But again go back to your question. Uh,
they have had the good fortune to being able to
do a lot of that in my career. And it

(54:32):
started all the way back in nine we filmed a
movie in Frankfort called Blue Chips. Do you remember that?
Are you kidding? I was. I was a senior at Purdue,
and we had, uh some of those guys Shaquille O'Neal
included in are in the bars that Purdue. Absolutely absolutely
I forgot about that, absolutely, So yeah, you remember that

(54:53):
whole time? And they filmed in Frankfort there for three months,
and uh, that we had the worldwide premier. I mean
all would literally descended on a little little Frank The
hell did that go down like that? I've got all
the insight on that one man. Um. So, so my
dad was, I love you were the mayor was at
the time, and what were you? So they were. I

(55:14):
was the captain of our investigations division, of our detective division.
So so I had some inside track with dad being
the mayor, right and uh so Hollywood comes calling and
they looked at at Frankfort's gym, which was a dome
and still is at the time called case Arena, And
they looked at some others, including the one in Newcastle.
They looked at the wigwam. Uh, they looked at one

(55:36):
down in Seymour. I think they're like four or five
locations they looked at. They liked the visuals of Frankfort's
Case Arena. They thought it looked like a college gymnasium
that they convert, which for our listeners, if you don't
know the movie, it's about college basketball. So it's interesting
that the Hollywood producers were looking at high school basketball
gyms to shoot this in right, right, and they wanted

(55:57):
a gym that still looked like though the Edge Basketball look, yeah,
about five thousand. It'll see about five thousand, so just
a little bit bigger than Chapel Hill and Chapel Hill World.
North Carolina Duke is uh the names escaping me, but yeah,
the Duke Basketball Arena, the Sunthin Center I'll think of

(56:18):
in a second. There's a little Cameron Cameron Arena. So
they settled on on Frankfort, and Uh, I'd like to
think that a lot of that had to do with
my dad. He's such a people person and such a
connector and had had had told him a we can
do this, you know. And so they settled on Frankfort

(56:39):
and Hollywood descends on us for three months of filming.
Now keep mind the director of this film was William Friedgen.
He directed The French Connection. He's a multiple time Oscar
winning director. You've got Nick Nolty, You've got Shack, You've
got Penny Hardaway, and you've got all these major folks
coming in. Rick Pottino to play coaches for the games.

(57:00):
So I don't know if he came over with any
of the games or not, but they literally played four games.
They were actually live games that people came to So
we were talking to the producers, like, so, why Indiana,
And they said, well, we would have to pay everybody
to come to a game in California. We knew here
in Indiana people would pay to come to the game
to watch the game, like the movie Hoosiers. The movie

(57:20):
Hoosiers was filmed in Knightstown, you know, Knightstown and Hankel Knightstown,
the Hoosier Gym as it's called now, But it was
an old school gym that I mean. Hell, I remember
when my brother Dan played basketball when we were kids,
you know, the seventh grade. I remember going to gyms
like that that you know that they were still playing

(57:42):
at you know, and and uh, that's that's really cool.
That is that's so. Did you find out or any
of them Hotdog fans don't think so. I don't think so.
They stay at the Romata Inn or where they stay. Yeah,
most of them stayed either down here in India or
over in Lafayette. Uh. Nick Nolty was somewhat interesting. We

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would go and pick him up every morning and he
would come out in his pajamas, police escort, in his
police protection and protection, and he would come out of
his hotel in wearing pajamas, carrying a golf club and
kind of looking like that mud shot. Uh, you know,

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like he had a really bad day, right, kind of
looking like that. And none of us ever got up
the courage to ask him, what's up with the golf club.
I can't believe, you know, three months went by and
none of us ever asked about that. But every day
carrying a golf club. So he would take him to
his trailer at the set and he would emerge as
coach Pete Bell, which was his character in the movie
Hair Perfect in plays wardrobe. Everything's set right, He's like,

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what the hell? Why why I get fixed up at
the hotel? Gonna work me over when I get there,
do the filming and everything. And he'd come back out
of his wardrobe trailer looking again like Nick Nolty, you
have the pj's with the golf club, with the hair one,
you're wearing pajamas. I don't care, I got it ideal.

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Back to the hotel. We'd go and repeat, you know,
for three months. And uh, but I mean he he
was very pleasant to interact with and uh, but not
you know, some others were a little more forthcoming. Perhaps
I will have to say that Rick Pottino the coach
of Louisville, Now he was the coach of UK at
the time, University of Kentucky, And that was right at

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the beginning of all his championship runs. There h at
the epitome of his other gentleman. I mean, he was
just terrific. I remember Night was in that movie also,
and I mean the legendary Bob Knight, and Uh, I
have a kind of humorous story to share on that one,
if if we, if we can indulge. So the filming

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of the of the last two games UH We're the
fictional UH team that Nick Nolty was coaching against you right,
And they actually played two games, and those two games
were spliced into one game that appears in the film.
So the big Kua Koudata last play right was an
alley from from Hardaway to Shock, so that Nick Noldy's

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team would win the big game against I you Right.
So that was the only set up of the entire filming.
The rest of the games were filmed just play yeah,
We're just played up yeah pick up pick up games
and uh. And the film cruise had cameras all over
the place. One of the first uses of a steady
camp was in that In that movie, one of the

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very first uses of the uses of a steady camp,
Bobby Hurley, who played at Duke, was on that I
you tube in the movie like a basketball fan would be.
By the way, did you ever see the Bobby Hurley story.
I'm like, yes, yes, if you've ever seen it, watch it.
So so, yeah, that seems kind of weird seeing Bobby
Hurley wearing Eyu colors. And there were a few others

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that kind of had some mix and match there also.
But so the big final play was the only set
up right. So uh so, you know, the teams get
everything all set up. You know, all the shots are
in place, all the cameras are in place, the sound
everything's ready. Okay, go so action right, you know William
Friedkin uh you know Oscar winning director action. So they do.

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So they run the play and I you defends the play.
Cut cut cut, freek cut Bobby go here, what are
you doing? So they start getting into it, Bobby Knight
and I mean, this is a crowd of five thousand
people against the play. He's telling William Freakin, I'm not

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telling my players to roll over for anybody, you tell
their coach to tell him how to execute that play
and get that shot off. Otherwise we're playing defense. Let's go.
I love it. John stops off, So so you know,
freaking His wife at the time was share Lancey still
is Sherry Lansing. She's the CEO of Paramount Pictures, one

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of the wealthiest women in the world. They're producing this film.
The catchphrase for the whole thing, Well, this is Billy's film,
you know. I mean, this was his. This is a
big deal for him. So and this is each time
they do a take like this, it's costing thousands because
is rerolling it over right, So they gotta set all
this backup. And after Lobby doesn't give us ship after

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the play. After the play, all the crowd supposed to
come out onto the floor and carry off Nick Nolty
on their shoulders, you know. And I mean, this is
a big deal. So now you gotta get everybody back
into their seats, get everything reset right. And so the
directors just seeing Dollar signed going ching ching, ching ching,
and Night's got the sleeves rolled up and he's just
sitting there like, my guys are playing defense. I'm not

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laying down until they over right. That is, so they
get every they all set up again right, the next
player goes off, they can't execute the play I used
successfully defends it. That happens four more times. What made
in the movie was the fifth take, and each time
it was a bigger and bigger argument between the director
and Night. Could you imagine that at any time, at

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any time you remember the whole rivalry. I mean that
was at the peak of I used popularity, right, you
were in college that you remember, And of course Frankfort's
kind of close to produe country, you know, so at
any time, I was waiting for freaking to turn around
to us as the security team there to playing closer
security team and say get Night out of here, which
would have been about like throwing Jesus out of him. Yeah, yeah, right,

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I mean, it was his it's his ball, it's his game.
And at that point, Nights not compliant, but he was.
And they even said, Bobby, you knew this was gonna happen.
It was in your contract, and Nights telling him, I
don't give a blank, what's in my contract. My guys
are playing defense, and it was it was a Night
story that nobody really knows that's probably the best night

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story I've ever heard. It's a classic, but is it
isn't at the epitome of coach night and and I mean,
here's a guy who again ran a clean program in
multiple places, graduated, you know, one of the best of
the best ever. But yeah, that was. That was an
interesting moment in time there. That's fantastic. Yeah, great story.

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So bringing up Nick Nolty, how can you look past
uh Beverly Hills Cop. Right, Oh, it's classic cop movie.
It's a classic cop movie. Absolutely, Yeah, Nick NOLDI driving
that Eddie driving like a big white cadillact blue baby.

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Edie Murphy was constantly digging about it in the movie,
you remember that, constantly digging about his That was. That
was a great movie with Eddie Murphy and of course
Beverly Hills Cop. Yeah, and every line that's popping in
my head right now, I can't say, right, so one
thing you can say anything, I can say, not one
thing I want my kids to hear. Yeah, all right.

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That was all filmed in ninety three, in the summer
of ninety three. Then we did the worldwide premiere in
in the February of nine. You know, Hollywood literally descends
on Frankfort, Indiana. And that was something. And so where
did they show it at the gym? No, that was
that would have been a great idea. I wish we
would have done that with the benefit of hindsight. But

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they showed it at the Frankfurt Cinema and they did
like three showings that night that night. Was that like
an old theater on the right, right, and and I
didn't necessarily have the Marquis unfortunately, but yeah, it was.
It was an older theater there in town. And uh, right,
and then they set up a tent next door and
had had a reception and all that and then uh

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and then took the first group with with freaking and
his wife Sharon Lansing actually came to the premier, many
of the stars did and that right, yeah, and took
him to the country club for another little receptions. It
was kind of a good small town deal, you and
I know something that is definitely a highlight in my
dad's career. And it's a hell of a deal man

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to go up against those other places like that and
get get get shows and you know, but even better
that story, God, that is great. That is a great story.
I can't wait to watch that movie again to see
to see the final play. I mean, I can see
it in my head right now. But knowing that it
was the fifth take right that you know that the
jubilation the team, the winning team had was real because

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they finally got the play right when you know, and
you know what, it was always like, you got it, Yeah,
you got it. You heard that? Good? When congratulations when
uh you can get you in the context that we
we've explained. Now, when you go back and watch the movie,
you can see when the crowd starts to come onto
the floor on that fifth take, there's a little bit
of hesitation. It's like, oh, we're doing this again. Seriously.

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You know you can just tell now people watching the
movie for the first time probably have no idea. But
watch it back in that contact next and as somebody
who was there, you can that you've been listening to
Inside Hollywood with Gary Woodruff Studio James Lipton. By the way,
have you seen the Inside the Actor's Studio with with

(01:07:18):
the Family Guy care or the Family Guy characters? Oh no, no, no,
I haven't seen it. I can imagine though you have
to say, oh it is. It is the best I'm
telling you and I've watched a bunch of and he's awesome.
He is awesome. I love listen that have interviewed people.
But uh Lois if you will, starts going at a

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pretty hardcore, pretty aggressive if you get what I'm saying,
and and I'm telling you, man, he is completely stumbled.
I mean she's talking waves smack, Attie. That's funny. Well
that was that was a pretty uh pretty phenomenal experience there.
I mean, had you know Mary McDonald was the female
lead in that movie, and what a pleasure was to

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work with, interact with. And Ed O'Neil from From Children
was the kind of the he was the reporter protagonist
Ed O'Neil from Married with Children, the dad from Married
with Children in the Modern Family. Yea O'Neil, Yeah, you know,
he really upgraded and wives by the way in his
new role, right, he was kind of the sports reporter

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protagonist to Nicknolty in that in that movie. And JT.
Walsh j T. Walsh Um passed away kind of unexpectedly.
I think um as a movie fan, but he has
been his every single movie he's been and he's been awesome,
and he was awesome. In that movie, j Wash played
like the booster, the alumni booster that was like kind

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of dirty given money to the players. Um, that's a
great movie. Great movie. Um. I used some work with
Matt Painter, who's the head basketball coach at Purdue, and
I asked him, I go, Hey, when you're flipping channels,
do you watch uh? Do you wait for the credits
to roll on blue chips so you can see your name?
Because he was one of the most players he was

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on the i U team. Yeah, as a produced player. Right,
some guys do anything to get in a movie, won't they? All? Right?
I guess I'll are they Another funny little vignette from
from the filming there. On the first game, they had
a guy they brought in from California. I think his
last name was Gonzalez, but he was the person that

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played the dolphin mascot. But he was also the coordinator
for the crowd to get them to do the chance
and everything that a crowd would typically do. Now, come on,
you're in Indiana and you're a California guy, and you're
trying to explain to an Indiana crowd how to how
to cheer for a basketball for a basketball game. Yeah,
come on, Okay, when he hits it, you'll want to

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You'll want to cheer it. Literally was that bad. The
crowd starts booing him. I love it. And he turns around.
He's like, why are they booing me? He said, We said, dude,
you're in Indiana. You're insulting every in this place. Right,
California guy from Indiana. You're you're California guy here to
Indiana trying to explain to Indiana people how to act
in a basketball game. Right. I gotta I gotta tell you.

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I got an email today, so we have we have
a shoot coming up, and one of the things that
was sent to me from an agency said, now the
uh do you Greg press? So Greg is doing this
one for us, and she sends us email back me

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copy Gregg and some other people, and it says, now,
make sure you don't get your reflection in any of
the pictures of the glasses. Make sure you don't take
any logo pictures of any other comp I'm like, this
is it? I mean, I f I snapped. I'm like, really,
I mean, I just hit I just replied all and
hit question mark. Really. I was like, I mean, what

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do you think we're taking these pictures with our phone.
I know it was a good spirit, but it was
kind of like, come on, man, I mean, we're this guy.
We're paying him, not like the way I paid little
by the way, but yeah, on one of our other
on one of our other shows, we had Chris and
he was explaining all of the all of the compensation.

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He never got het. Wow. I was like, come on, dude,
you got at least like four or five pair of glasses.
How dare you talk like that? He did define compensation, right, Yeah,
He's a good one. Man. We've had We've had some
great people on here, and I mean, it's it's it's
it's crazy. I mean, when Adam and I started talking

(01:11:42):
about this, it was like, all right, this is what
I want to do. He's like, well, okay, And so
I know he had kind of his his wonders in
the beginning, not doubts, but wonders of how this would
all roll. And it's been great, man, it's been awesome.
And we talked to all kinds of people from all
walks of life, and and uh, you know, it's it's

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been uh, it's it's it's been a lot of fun
and only getting better as we go because I get
it where Adam doesn't talk hardly at all, so it's
really really a good program. Then he edits me out
and puts a voiceover of him, and this is the
easiest show to co host because he's always talking, so
I don't have to do anything. Well, there's that talking

(01:12:26):
about blue chips that were taking easy. We've barely scratched
the surface on some of this stuff too, So I'm
the I'm the color commentator from Major League. If you're
never that guy a bit outside this broadcast, classes are
really paying off. Wasn't absolutely this outside all tonight? Well,

(01:12:54):
Gary Woodriff, this has been a pleasure. I the Bobby
Night story. It was worth the price of admission, and
that's fantastic. We thank you for your service both in
the army and as a police officer and everything you
do with UH, mentoring and educating the next wave of
police officers coming up the the pike. So we want
to thank you for coming on and on behalf of

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