Corey Heim is our guest on the latest episode of The Skinny with Rico and Ken

At just 19 years old, Corey Heim is a young superstar on the rise. With recent wins in the ARCA Menards Series at Daytona, Talladega and Poconos driving the #20 JBL Toyota Camry for Venturini Motorsports, his passion and dedication is paying off in a big way. Corey also drives the #51 Tundra in the NASCAR Camping World Truck Series for Kyle Busch Motorsports. This interview with Corey demonstrates his character, commitment and professionalism that will ensure a bright future for this very talented young man.

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That is the goal for every young racer and that's
exactly what has happened here with young Corey him. He
is off to a fabulous start in his career and
is making some real noise in the in the late
model world. The super Lates now up into ARCA UH
and has even made a truck debut. We welcome you
to the show there, Corey. Hey, guys, thanks for having
me today. By the way, congratulations on a fabulous run

(01:30):
just one day ago. Yeah, it was a great weekend.
I appreciate it. Um, we definitely had our expectations coming
to this weekend. We execute it well, yeah for sure. Um. Well,
we'll get into your career here, but you gotta walk
me through that last restart. Were you Did you see
any of the stuff that was going on there beside
you with your teammate and time? Yeah? Actually, did you know?

(01:53):
I've had that question, asked me a couple of times now.
And I could see a little bit out the left
side window and I was looking on that restart, so, um,
you know, I didn't see exactly what happened. I knew
that channel was going to be aggressive in that restart,
and of course Tylo two because you know, ultimately ultimately
lead to lower the race win at the end. So um,
I saw let me together a little bit in the
A team lost off his momentum, and uh, you know

(02:14):
my job at that point was to go down and
try to um break aggress as his momentum and get
out front. And that's exactly what we did. Yeah, yeah,
good good heart racing. And uh, I know there's a
bit of a rivalry there brewing between you, you two
young guns, and rightfully so, I mean you're both very,
very competitive. I would expect nothing less than that out
of both of you, to be quite honest with you.

(02:35):
So it's a lot of fun to watch you guys
battle and and to think that this is just the beginning. Man,
you know, you two guys could be could be battling
for the rest of your careers like this. Yeah. Ti
is a great competitor and it's been a it's been
an interesting year so far. You know, we started off
in a really good note and then we kind of
love it out a little bit behind him, he's been
you know, obviously really on fire for the past five

(02:57):
or six weeks and he's one, I think pretty much
the last you know, ford A lost five races or
something like that. So, um, you know, get the win
this weekend and get that cleaner like you needed at
the end and have that opportunity to execute and um,
you know, being able to bring him the check at
five when he's been really hard to beat these past
couple of weeks has given given us a lot of
confidence going to alka. Yeah, you guys should really pet
yourself on the back. I mean, listen, I'm not gonna

(03:19):
tell you anything you don't already know. Maybe for the
fans out there, I mean, you're taking on a Cup team.
It is what it is. Uh, you race, so you
have to race. You want to race and beat the best,
no matter who are where you are, and you're certainly
getting a good taste of that. And you guys have
proven very capable. I think you should really give yourself
a padal on the back. And you know, for Ventorini Motorsports,
I think they really stepped up their game, you know,

(03:40):
since two thousands of seventeen eighteen. In the last couple
of years, man, they've they've really invested back in themselves.
They've had some great equipment. Now they have great drivers
and and I think the results are showing. You know,
they've got great talent underneath the tent. Your your crew chief,
Shannon has been with the best of the best all
along the way and has been successful. And Kevin Reid
and of course Billy himself. I mean that it's a

(04:03):
hell of a team you've got there for sure, and
there's no question, man, you can wheel a car. Yeah,
I appreciate that. And you know, like you said, we've
got a great group of our Venery Motorsports. You've got
you know, Shannon Rush, Kevin Reid and Billy Gunn, Rainy
Bill and Caffey and all the guys that were working
hard and women as well. We didn't do bad by
any means. We finished second and third for the most
part and have that one seventh place finished in mid Ohio.

(04:24):
But um, you know, we we came into the year
expecting wins and we've got a couple of to this
um this weekend so far. So I got to think
twelve races left in the year and we got a
lot of more opportunities to get some more wins and ultimately,
of course, we want to win the championship. But um,
I think everyone's on the same page over there. They
want to go win races, win the championship, and so
far they've been working their butts off every day and night,

(04:45):
and they've had some they've had some way nights and
early mornings trying to beat the eight team car and
this weekend they had some of the payoffs. So looking
for the rest of the year for sure. Yeah, And
you know it's gonna raise their game, right, I mean
when you're racing somebody like Gibbs and you guys are
all digging and you're doing as good as you're doing,
and it's just gonna make your work a little bit harder, right,
So it's gonna bring the level up of of Venturini's

(05:05):
team as well, because they're all gonna chase it just
that much harder. And yeah, I couldn't agree with your
consistency anymore. I mean the first eight rounds and you've been,
you know, in the top three every round except for
that that one, you know, where you finished seventh, like
you mentioned, But even more so, I don't think you've
only been out of the top ten in ARCA ever,
and I think that was because of a window net

(05:26):
if I'm not mistaken when you finished the eleventh. Uh So,
I mean you've had incredible consistency here in the arc
of series. Yeah, I mean I think that's one of
my strong suits and it's been um, you know, it's
been overall kind of my one thing that's really kept
me in the battle of points this year. Of course,
has more wins to his name this year. Um, and
we you know, came into this year three wins so
far as miss lamp bind the means and tie has

(05:47):
been really good. So his one bad race of Talladega,
I think he finished outside of the top twenties. Really
what's kind of kept us in it so far, and
that's you know, that's part of what the ARCA playoffs for,
not even playoffs, it's just the points format. Point race
is straight up, there's no there's no playoffs, there's no
elimination and stuff like that. So you really have to
make every single week count. And you know, in the
top three NASCAR series, you can win one race and

(06:09):
have an awful rest of the year and still being
the playoffs, you know, and still still have a shot
at that championship. While ANARCA you have to put twenty
solid races together. So you know, my my mindset going
into every week is of course to win the race,
but you also have to kind of consider, um, you know,
if you don't have the best race car. You can't
go out there and you know, do something crazy and
completely tack yourself out of it, because that's gonna really,
you know, put yourself out of it for the rest

(06:30):
of the year if you have a really bad week
and you know, the one race that we you know,
finished outside of the top three, we had a w wait,
a mishappened to restart, and then we had to pit
road penalty as well, So it's just kind of one
thing on top of another. And um, you know, we
rebounded and came back in one Pocono, So, UM, you know,
look back at what my mistakes were in mid Ohio
and why we we struggled, you know, as far as

(06:51):
finishing wise that week, And um, I look back as
a driver and kind of realized, like I messed up
and I needed to do better, and we came back
and rebounded with a win. Awesome, UF, I mean, and
it seems like you really excel at the superspeedways. You
adapted to that very quickly. Was did it just feel
good right out the bat? Yeah? I mean I practiced
on like I racing in the Toyota sim as well.

(07:11):
I think, um, you know, there's a lot of people
around me that we're telling me kind of how to
how to get around and see the speedway. You know,
we got a very limited amount of practice. Um, I
think we got that one test session two weeks before
the race and then you know, all in all, just
kind of listening to people around me and I went
on executed. So talking about your SIM career and we'll
we'll focus on that in a little bit because that's
super cool as well and certainly where this industry is going.

(07:35):
But even with all the seat time in the SEM
and I know you have a ton of it, um,
you still don't get what you get when you're inside
of that car and a superspeedway, feeling that air, feeling
that draft, knowing what the other cars are doing around you.
But it seems like you've adapted to it very quickly,
picked it right up. Yeah, I think I would have

(07:56):
to agree with that. Nothing really beats actual in car experience.
It's you know, a cognitive an actual race car. But
you know, things like I already seen in the toy
to Sin do help me a lot, um. You know,
without that, I don't think I would pick up on
a couple of things here and there that I might
make a mistake in real life, and you know, those
reps and those actual lapster on the track kind of
helped me, um, you know, realize what I could possibly
make mistakes on and kind of just execute on that

(08:18):
with consistency and just you know, overall a good mindset
going into the weekend. Kind of just having that confidence
that I know what the actual race is going to do,
and the superspeedway side of things, you know what other
cars you're gonna do. You know, watching film helps as well.
You know what what the characteristics of some race car
jobs might do, how to you know, maybe avoid some
people that might be a little bit harder to get
around and things like that. So, um, you know, just

(08:40):
having that having that mindset and that preparation before race
is really big for me. You've had the same spot
or I'm told for about four years Lloyd Garner, who
I believe was also now spotting and Cup as well
for the double Oh if I'm not mistaken, But uh,
how much of a comfort zone does Lloyd give you
inside of your ear whenever you're in those situations. Yeah,

(09:02):
Lloyd's been awesome. He's been a big part of my
success this year. Um. And you know, like you mentioned,
he's been my spotter for almost four years, so we
really know each other well and what what I like
and what he likes in me. So um, we we
merged together really well. And it's very important to have
that relationship with the spotter on superspeedways. So um, he
definitely gives me the comfort and to the point where
I can trust him, like if he calls me clear

(09:23):
and it's really close, like I can trust that, I
can trust that gap and I can trust that called
by Lloyd. So um, you know, with with a newer
spot that might not have as much experience as Lloyd does,
I don't know if I can put you know, trusting
enough to fill that gap and you know, make that
move that it would be confident enough to do with Lloyd.
So um, I think that's the main thing for me. Um.
And you know Lloyd has been around for a while,

(09:43):
as you mentioned, he's a cup spotter as well, so
obviously he's good enough to you know, being a cup
parer and he comes back down to Arka and he's
really doing well with me. So um. You know, like
I mentioned earlier, has been a huge part of my
success this here. Yeah, it's that chemistry, right, I mean
all the pieces to the puzzle as you mentioned before,
Shannon Rush and and Kevin re Eat and Billy Venturini
and uh and Lloyd. I mean all the pieces of

(10:04):
the puzzles. That team chemistry which is what really allows
you to succeed and chase a championship. And you guys
clearly have that going on. Man, It's it's really exciting
to be part of a program like that. Yeah, no doubt.
I mean we're gonna keep on working away at it
and try to click up another couple of wins here
at least, uh, you know, keep ourselves in the way
to the points battle here. So they're gonna keep on
working hard. And we've gotta got along stitch races coming

(10:26):
up in July. I think we have like three or
four short tracks in five weeks. So that's gonna be
really exciting for me. So let's take a step back, man,
tell me how you got going in this whole business,
this whole racing uh craziness that we all have so
much affection for. So how old were you and what
was your first efforts? Yeah, so I started when I

(10:47):
was five years old, and you know before that, I've
always been a NASCAR fan ever since I, you know,
pretty much was one year old and I was able
to even kind of comprehend when I was looking at
so me and my dad would always watch it, and
we grew up pretty close to a Landlar Speedway, so
I'd go to a couple of races, and my dad
raised a little bit of Legends car stuff as well
when he was Um, when I was a young kid,

(11:08):
and I would go watch all the near motor speedway. Um.
But I got started in quarter midgets. My dad surprised
me at the quarter midget when I was five years
old on Christmas, and um, you know, we we tested
at the local track and coming Georgia Bill Thomas Raceway,
and I raised that for I want to say about
eight years honestly. So I spent a lot of time

(11:28):
in quarter midgets, um, and then I moved up to
a bandalera in a Legends car. Um. That's kind of
where I really learned how to race. Like you, you
understand how to drive when you're in quarter midgets, but
I don't think you truly understand how to race until
you go through that bandalera Legends car phase. But you
see a lot of NASCAR drivers go through, um that
have made it in the sport. So um, after that,
I went into late models, some super light models and

(11:49):
pro late models, which I still do. I'm actually going
to raise the race of bad this weekend. So I've
been doing that for about four or five years now.
And then we moved made the step up to ARCA
and you know that one truck to start you mentioned earlier. Yeah,
so we should touch base and let the fans at home. No, Uh,
Corey is eighteen years of age with a birthday coming
up here next weekend. Uh well I think maybe Monday,

(12:12):
right July five, So um, happy early birthday to you there,
my friend. You'll be uh, you'll be the wise old
age of nineteen years old. It's pretty pretty cool. I
appreciate that. Thank you. We'll be right back after this.
This segment of the Skinny is brought to you by Toyota.
When did you catch Toyota design? Um? I think this

(12:34):
is my second year in the program. Um this year,
so I started an ARKT actually with a different team
which i've by Racing, which was a four team at
the time, and um, really just didn't have the success
that I wanted. We we finished you know, borderline top
five every week, but we were fifth place, fifth, the
sixth place car. And I was also living in Georgia
at the time, so I didn't have a really good

(12:54):
opportunity to move, you know and go to the shop
and you know, spend some time with the guys. I
didn't have the greatest relationship with my team because I
really I know the choice, but did a show to
the race back and race. So, UM, I graduated high
school last year, I moved up. Um, you know, of
course I got a part with Toyota. I became a
part of the program, and UM, you know, ever since then,
I feel like it's kind of taken off a little bit.

(13:15):
You know. We started even winning lay model races and
that's you know, outside of the artist out of it
of course. And um won the one Arker race in
Kansas later in the year last year. And I think
ever since I've been a part of the program, better
myself as a driver in and out of the race car,
in and out of the race car, and you know,
my work, my work ethic has gotten a lot better
as well. So UM, these guys have really pushed me

(13:36):
to be the best, best version of myself, and I
think this year it's, um, it's been great so far,
and I'm hoping to improve myself every year. I'm a
part of this program. So I'm gonna rephrase that a
little bit because clearly, I mean, you're stepping up to
the plate here now that you're underneath that Toyota umbrella.
But what do you think it was? What do you

(13:56):
think you did before you became a development river for Toyota.
What do you think it was that you did so
well that had Was it Jack Irving that that made
the call? I mean, who who was it? Uh? When
do you think Toyota looked at you and said, you
know what, this kid's got a real shot we need
to take. We need to take him under our umbrella
and see if we can develop him. What was that

(14:17):
success level that got you there? Yeah? I mean I
think a little bit was just um, you know, every
weekend we'd go against those Venorini cars and I feel like, um,
we were right there with them pretty much every weekend,
with you know, maybe not quite as good as a
car that they had, So I feel like we, um,
we really kind of proved or I proved my worth
against those guys. And uh, you know, Billy Venerini and

(14:39):
Jack Irving are really good friends, so I mean, I
guess they might have talked a little bit about, you know,
the consistency and success I had in my first year
in ARKA. I think, um, you know, they gave me
a shot last year with seven races. I didn't race
a lot last year with them, but I think we
had a lot of success in the limited amount of
starts that I had, So, um, you know that that
kind of at that point proved that I could, you know,

(15:00):
run up there and run up front with the top
guys in ARCA and even trucks. Yeah, I've I've spoke
with Jack Irving off and on for I don't know,
maybe the better part of ten years. And my guess
is Jack Irvy knew exactly who you were before you
ever got to ARCA. He's pretty switched on. And uh,
he's looking at those young guns all the time. I
mean I've had him tell me he's looking at kids,
you know, twelve years old, you know, twelve and thirteen

(15:21):
years old and getting them in the program. Uh, certainly
keeping an eye on him. And then I also know
that you ran really well, you know in in the
pro lates and the and the super lates and sixteen
years old, running nationally and nearly one of the martins
Martinsville three right when you were seventeen years old. Yeah,
I definitely like to say that I did win it,
um you know, as a controversial finish at the end

(15:43):
there and I think I think I did win it,
and then you know, pretty much everyone else agreed that
I did. But um, you know that's part of racing.
I mean, you're gonna have controversial stuff. But um, we
did have a lot of success when I first started
in the lay model stock stuff and actually in uh
full time last year in the lame model stock side
of things in cars Tour, and we had a pretty
successful year. We want a race and um one a
couple of local races as well. Throughout the year. I

(16:05):
think I ran races total, and I think I went
three or four of them, so um, you know, overall,
good year. And I think that's also taught me a
lot about how to raise a heavy stock car and
that's how I also got my starting to heavy stock
car as well. So it's um funder return to your
rates and kind of see see how you shape up
against those, uh, those good guys and lay models, and
I feel like you know, every time you go back
down to that rank. I mean, those guys are just

(16:26):
as good as some of the guys are in a NASCAR.
So it's it's just as hard, if not harder, to
win a late model a big lay model rac and
it is to win an arcer and truck race. Oh,
I couldn't agree with you more. I mean, what happens
as as it becomes more affordable, the talent level goes
up right, and the field gets a little deeper, and
and uh, let's face it, super lates are not a
cheap car to run, but in comparison much less money

(16:49):
than an ARCA car or certainly a cup car. But yeah,
when you get in those super late ranks, I mean
you have guys that have been pounding around on their
their whole careers and I mean are vicious, good, uh,
with a ton of experience. So yeah, when you show
up and do well there, And and that's kind of
why I was asking you, what what do you think
it was that made Toyota notice you. My guess is

(17:09):
Jack Irving was very aware of who you were and
seeing that you had success, you know, at the late
model ranks, because it's very important to him that you
do well at that at that level, I know, like
the you know, the K and N stuff was very
important to him. He wanted to see his drivers do
well at that level, and he wanted to see him
inside of cars a lot, you know, many many times
a year. So my guess is that was a big

(17:30):
part of him making a decision to bring you on
board and then seeing you do well, Like you said
in the Archer Car, I think it all does work
nicely together. But you know, I couldn't agree with you
more man. There's some real talent and the super late
ranks for sure. Yeah. And I think, um, you know,
the light bottles side of things, Um, while they might

(17:50):
not get you a ride quite in the ARCA series,
at the truck series, it's very rare for that to happen. Um.
I do think that definitely accounts for some of the
reasoning of you know something I think that gets you know,
placed towards you in an ARC or a late model
I'm sorry, an arc A truck car as well. So, um,
someone's always watching um every move and you gotta really execute.
Whether they're doing just a local late model stock race

(18:12):
or a big truck race or something like that, someone's
always watching. So that's something that I've really buy and buy.
Just the world that you're growing up in doesn't even
allow you to be a kid anymore. I mean you
you're in the professional ranks pretty early on. You have
to act like a professional, which involves the entire business
side of it, the social media side of it, obviously,

(18:33):
the racing side of it. It all ties in together,
and they want the uh, they want the perfect package,
you know, so you have to give some stuff up
that you you you know, your buddies might have been
able to go do that you couldn't do. But the
payoff is, you know, hopefully a professional race car driver
at a couple level. I'm sure's your goal. So uh yeah,
hats off to you, man, because it's not easy being

(18:53):
a kid these days. It's not easy being involved in
social media. And and when Benny, when Billy tells you
something like that, uh, you know, there's a lot of
jealous people out there. They want to see you do
something wrong. They want to see you make a bad
step and try to take advantage of you that way too,
So it's there's a lot of positives, but there's some
negatives there. And yeah, I mean you're walking through a minefield,

(19:15):
if you will, so and uh, and everybody's hoping you
come out of the other side, you know, on top.
It's it's not an easy task, man. My hat's off
to you. Yeah, I mean, you're not wrong, it's not
it's not easy to be, you know, doing what we're doing.
But you know, at the same time, there's a lot
of people who wish they were doing what I was doing.
So you're always gone pretty much every weekend. And then

(19:36):
I'm gonna be completely honest, like I never never went
to a high school prom or anything like that in
the high school events because I was always at a racetrack. So, um,
regardless of that, I've loved every second of, you know,
my racing career for the last three or four years,
and especially in the lay model in orchesta. Um, this
is what I've always wanted to do. I've always wanted
to be in this position, and you know, toyter Racing
is done everything they can to put me in this position,

(19:56):
and I've loved every second of it. So um, just
extreme ex Moore grateful for for where I'm at in
my career right now, and I hope we can continue
to build on and hopefully hopefully get through the ranks.
So let's talk about your sim career because I know,
fortunately when you get underneath that Toyota umbrella, you also
get access to that incredible simulator that that they have.

(20:18):
But then, I, if I'm not mistaken, I believe you
also do a lot of sim time for Kyle Busch
as wealth on on his truck program. Is that correct? Yeah,
You're not wrong. Um, I think you know, for the
most part, we're working towards his racing specifically, and he
only has about five of them this year, so we've

(20:39):
me and Marty Linley is the CREATI of fifty one
truck this year, have done a lot of work to
try to make sure that Kyle's truck is perfect form
and um, you know, it's been kind of up and
down the year form in the truck and expandity side
of things this year, but you know, I've done everything
I can to try to make sure that, you know,
he's happy with his truck, and I think for the
most party has been so Um. The Toyle similart is great.
I think it's it's cool to the real thing is

(21:00):
you're gonna get with the current you know, technology that's
presented to them. So, UM, I got pretty much two
times a week and they're three and a half hour sessions.
So I spend roughly seven hours a week trying to
make sure my car is gonna be good or Kyle's
truck is going to be good throughout the weekend. And UM,
for the most part, it's it's pretty simple, but sometimes
it can get a little bit stressful when you're not
finding that right balance or everything or anything like that.

(21:22):
So for the most part, you know, it's simple, but
sometimes it can't be stressful as well. So let me
ask you a question because maybe I misunderstood. So I
thought the Toyota simulator was in one facility, UM, and
Kyle Bush's sim was in a different facilities. Are you
do you do all the work on one It's all
on the same thing, it's all on it's all on

(21:43):
one simulator at a tr D, so UM, never have
to move to go to the same place every time.
It's it's all pretty simple as far as that goes.
Got you. UM, So I've also heard, and I'm kind
of curious if if there's any truth to this. I've
also heard that there are times when they're looking for
real time data. Uh. In other words, let's just say,

(22:04):
like Kyle gotta win here this this past weekend as well. So, um,
I've heard that during a race sometimes people will get
on a sim and try a set up to see
if it will work a little bit better, relay that
back to the crew chief real time during the race,
and when they come in and make a pit stop,
will possibly make that change in the car if it's available. Well,
for the most party, they will do all that prior

(22:26):
to the weekend, so they will run through every scenario
that could happen. That's realistic. You know, if like Kyle
is complaining about a certain area of the race, I
could be struggling with and practice during the race, the
crew chief of the car chief will run that in
the simulator and see what adjustment they need to make
that make that truck neutral again. So they'll run that
all previous and implemented into the truck in real time,

(22:49):
like you said, But they won't they won't actually physically
get on a sim and like you know, put the
set up in and everything they'll have to all set up,
and you know, the preparation behind that is pretty insane.
You know, you spend throughout all the KDM jobs, they
probably spent about fifteen and twenty hours a week before
a race weekend to make sure that they can run
every possible scenario to get it prepared for the race weekend.

(23:09):
We've been so my son competes in sports cars and
and we've had a good relationship with Toyota and we've
been trying to get him on that SIM for I
want to say, about two years, but it hasn't happened.
Based off of this interview with you, it sounds like
the schedule for that sim could not be packed any tighter. Yeah,
I mean before I started doing stuff for for vener

(23:31):
Any Motorsports and for Kyle, I mean I struggled myself
to get some sometime as well. So um, you know
at the time, I wasn't very Um you know, I
was only running seven races for Toyota Racing and Venterny
Motor Sports last year. So um, that's most of the
reason why. And I'm a little bit more heavy on
the schedule side, and I'm also doing the stuff with Kyle,
like I mentioned, so, um, that's that's kind of the
reasoning behind that. But uh yeah, it's it's very packed up.

(23:54):
It's hard to find a slot unless you're you know,
a very big part of the vener Any Motorsports KBM JO,
God's Racing. Any team that Hitory as well, they're in
there a lot. So it's really tough to get some time,
and you've got to be pretty uh pretty deep in
the program to get a consistently. Alright, ladies and gentlemen,
we're gonna take a quick break here. We'll be back
in just a moment to spend some more time with
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Welcome back to the Skinny. We're talking to Corey him,
one of the Toyota development drivers. He's off to an
incredible start here leading to the points here in the
Arc of series, looking for his first Arc of championship. However,
that weeks battle is very tight, just a skinny four

(25:02):
point lead right now over the very tough Tie Gibbs.
But we look forward to the great racing between these
two young guns and the rest of that series as well. Uh,
when we talk about Ty Gibbs and Gibbs racing and Ventorini,
that's all toy Yota. It's Toyota family. But you guys
are vicious competitors, right, and nobody's really sharing anything behind

(25:23):
the scenes and the trailers. Yeah, I mean, for the
most part, we all get along pretty well. Um, you know,
me and Tie every weekend pretty much has a close
race for the most party. There's been a couple of
weekends where he's been a little bit ahead of us
as far as speed. But you know, when you race
this close together every weekend, it's hard to hard to
like the other guy, you know what I mean? Just
you know you obviously I went every race he compete

(25:45):
in and you know, Ty has been really good this year,
so um, I think I'm a mutual friend to him.
But you know, for the most part, joke is racing
and Fundery Motorsports are furist competitors and there's no bad
blood out of the out of the race check by
any means. But we definitely want to beat each other
every week and so times that just um just makes
you a little bit sour when you don't get it done.
So that's um, that's what all it comes down to. Yeah,

(26:06):
that competitive side and and if you didn't have it,
you know, you wouldn't be successful. So I certainly understand
all that. Man. Hey, let's um, let's talk a little
bit more about this this SIM situation that you're in.
Are you being paid? Are you a paid SIM driver
at this point? Is that something that I hear people

(26:27):
are almost making a career out of, uh doing doing
SIM work for these teams. No. Um, for the most part,
I'm just trying to do everything I can to help
KBM and Been any motor sports better their team, you know,
most of it for me as for Bener any motor
sports of course, because the better the better work I
do for them, the more successful I'm gonna be on
the racetrack, and that's going to correlate to, you know,

(26:49):
hopefully more opportunities down the road. And same thing with KBM. Really,
if I can really to press those guys and try to,
you know, try to make them realize that I can
be a good setup guy and you know, my feet
back is good at anything like that. Um, that could
do the more opportunities down the road. So that's that's
why I do it. And it's kind of just part
of my job. You know, it's not really a side
gig for me by any means. I just try to

(27:10):
better KBM and better unning motor sports in any way
I possibly can. So I also hear that a big
reason for your success is you're really good with info
to come back to the engineers with that info. When
did you start really feeling a car? Like, when did
you know what you wanted in a car? How early

(27:32):
on did it make sense to you? Yeah, it definitely
took me a little while. It's um for the most part,
in the first year of the racing pro and super
light models, I was just kind of hanging on. You know.
It's really dependent on the racetrack, um, and how good
my equipment was not really how good of a job
I was, Like, I wasn't when I when I first started,
I wasn't going to take a you know, a tenth
place race car and finished with it. If I had

(27:52):
a tenth place race car, My my peak was tenth place.
But over the years, I've kind of learned how to
you know, job risk are a little bit better and
get that feed back to where I can really perfect
a race car throughout a weekend. So um, now I
feel like I can take an okay race car and
finish really well with it. But you know, for the
most part this year, we've had really good race cars
and I've just been able to finish you know well
with them in general. So um, it's hard to it's

(28:14):
hard to you know, make up a lot of ground
at the race car. But over the years I really
adapted to try to get my feedback better and try
to do everything I can for my my career chief,
my car chief and engineers and everything everything like that
is trying to better themselves and also better me on
the racetrack as well. So the crew chiefs that you've
worked with here in your early days. For the most part,
or maybe all the way along the way, did they

(28:36):
tell you what they're doing to the car so it'll
make sense to you initially. Let's just say you start
picking up and you say, Okay, the car is tight
or the car is loose, and you don't necessarily know
what adjustment you want to make to the car yet,
so they tell you what they're gonna do, and then
you start piecing the puzzle together, and now you're to
the point where you might make suggestions as what you

(28:57):
think would work best. Yeah, when I first started, there
was a lot of about just driving development and trying
to get my driving side of things first. So you know,
I would tell them how the car felt and you know,
what I needed it to do better. But um, for
the most part, it is the crew chief telling me like, hey, man,
like you can drive it into three a little bit harder,
for example, or you can get off a four better.
Things like that, more than just what I can do

(29:17):
better as far as feedback, And you know, I think
that's pretty understood throughout motorsports. When a driver's first starting
in a car, they're not gonna know everything about it,
so um, and there's gonna be a lot left on
the racetrack as a driver to to make up a
little bit, or at least for for me, it was
because I have an experience beforehand. So um, you know,
as the years have gone by, my feedback has got

(29:38):
a lot a lot better. My driving of course, he's
gotten a lot better too, So UM, I think I've
figured out a lot of the things that I was
doing wrong as far as the drivers. So now I'm
leaning towards how can I make my feedback better? How
can I how can I, um, you know, overall just
improve myself as a driver and overall improve myself as
you know, um a person to relay information to the
engineers and crew chiefs as well. So um, of course

(30:00):
there's always room to be better. You know, I have
a lot of work to do if I want to
make it one day. But I'd like to think that
I came along way since I first started. Yeah, I
love your humble approach for sure. And you know, it's
an interesting point that you brought up there, because that
opportunity is I don't believe is there in sports car racing,
for say, whenever you can't see all the turns, you know,

(30:22):
on on a big track like a Watkins Glenn or
whatever it may be. Um, whenever you say your crew
chief could tell you to drive in a little bit
deeper in this turn, or get off of this turn
a little bit harder, that's that's not always an option
for a lot of other crew chiefs. But with the
guys that you're working with, they have just massive amounts
of experience and they can see it. So um, it's

(30:45):
it's funny because I'm just not used to that side
of it where a crew chief can actually tell the driver, hey,
you need to be a little bit better or you
can do a little bit better here to to really
help develop you and then you come back with a
little bit of information he can help develop the car,
and uh yeah, that's that's magical, man, that's really cool. Yeah.
I think in the late model ranks, Um, you know,
a good crew chief sets himself apart or verse off

(31:08):
apart from the rest of the crew chiefs just by
being a good driver coach as well. Um, those young
drivers that first got out of light models and then
needs someone by their side to tell them what they
need to do better without you know, completely criticizing them.
Of course, I constructive criticism is the way to go
for a young driver because you don't want to completely
make them lose their confidence. And I think I had
a really good you know crew chief when I first
started lay models, Matt Drake, and we deploy him mostly,

(31:29):
you know, we pointed a really good job on the
late model stock side and then Mat Drake on the
super lay model side. So two different people in my
ear kind of telling me two different approaches, and I
was just double the information and double the you know,
ways to make me better throughout throughout my years and
light models, so um, you know, like I mentioned, like that,
that really sets them apart from just normal crew chiefs,
and that's kind of led to my fast progression through

(31:50):
the light model stuff. And also Ark a little bit
as well. So for example, Toyota Lexus is GTD program
that sports car program. Those guys live and die on data,
so they can come back off of the truck and
they can compare all the drivers what they're doing on
each turn. Um, you know, who who's getting through this
turn better? Why entry, mid corner, exit, whatever the case

(32:13):
may be, whatever gear they're using. There's a ton of
plethora of data because of the electronics but you guys
don't have access to any of that. Do you do
you ever have data that even during your test days
or do you have data that you can look at.
So really the main thing that we use, um since
it's just kind of an oval racetrack a little bit
more simple than maybe a road course that you know,

(32:35):
the elex of stuff races at, we have something called
dark Fish and missical with that is is that overlays
you and the a race car that is better than you,
and it basically is like a ghost car, so it'll
show you exactly where that car is beating at at
the exact one on the racetrack. And all that bills
is to show one of your best laps against one
of the best of the other guy's laps, and that

(32:55):
shows you exactly where the beating you, exactly where you're
beating them, and just the areas that you could possible better.
And you know, that's that's really helped me a little
bit throughout the years. And we have to pay for it,
which is UM completely fine, because I think that's that's
gonna help me develop and I think that's help me
understand how those good guys are so good and what
they do better as far as just purely putting a
lot together, and of course there's a lot left on

(33:17):
the table as far as racecraft and just you know,
simple things on restarts that people do that make them,
you know, set them apart from the competition. But you know,
there's some technology that we can use to kind of
help us understand where the car or the driver might
be better thrown a lot. So I explain that to
me a little bit more if you will, or maybe
I just wasn't paying attention. It's probably more of the
case here. But if you go onto that app or

(33:40):
that that site, whatever the case may be, do they
have everybody I mean, if your time is there, if
Time wants to look at your time, he can look
at your time. If you want to look at ties time,
it's there, or or anybody else in the field. Yes,
So generally they have a couple of people with cameras
on top of like where a spotter would be, and
they will videotape every every good car. I mean, there
was a couple of cars that aren't really worth videotaping

(34:02):
unless you know you're part of that Darkfish program and
you pay to be part of that program. Um, but
you know all the good cars are getting recorded and
you know they will overlay another car whatever card you
really want. So if they if they are able to
videotate that lap and catch that lap, um, you know
you can request to be overlaid with that car. So
if they, if they have it on camera, it's available
for you to use. Just be requested and then they'll

(34:23):
send it to you over email and you can you
can watch exactly where they're beating here or where where
you're reading them. That's very interesting. Yeah, cool stuff for sure. Um.
Let's talk about your Let's talk about your truck debut. Man.
Congratulations that Darlington with with Kyle Bush and again you
talked about Marty Lindley and and rumor mill has it

(34:46):
that Marty speaks very highly of you, is very very
pleased with your feedback. And that's what those guys want, man,
I mean, they want a driver that's gonna come back
and and help them with with good information. So that's uh,
that's great news. I'm glad Marty's really happy with you.
That's that will certainly pay dividends with with Kyle. But man,
you make your debut at Darlington and in a position

(35:08):
to win that thing late in the race. Yeah, that
was a that was really a real experience for me. Um.
You know, I had really no expectations going into the race.
Of course, I wanted to do really good and impress people,
and um, i'd like to thank for for the most part,
I did pretty well. Um until we rereacked, of course,
but you know before that, we um, we were running

(35:28):
really well. We started deeper in the field, I think
I think we started ish in that range, and then
we kind of made our way up slowly. Was as
obviously it's slow start for me. Marty started me on
the tighter side, the more secure side of things, and um,
I struggled with the car in the first you know laps,
and then um we pretty much got a dialed in
right from there and already made the perfect adjustment on

(35:49):
the first stage, and I think we finished in the
top ten in the first stage and in the top
three and the second stage. So we were slowly, slowly
working our way up there. Then we we wrecked down
later in the race. But um, for the most part,
is an awesome experience, and that's definitely something never I'll
never forget. Yeah, So the fans that are listening in
help explain that just a little bit more. And and
I'm certainly very familiar with it as well. But you

(36:11):
just said you started off a little bit on the
tight side, the safer side of things, and it is
better for a driver to come in with the cards
a little bit tight, just doesn't want to really turn,
versus coming in loose. Correct. Yeah, I would say so.
I'm just depending on the race track and I think, um,
for my situation, it was definitely better to be on
the tight side because I had never been in the

(36:32):
truck before and never been a Darlington's before. So um
to you guys have no practice, no practice and no qualifying, right,
I forgot to throw that in there. You just get
to go, yeah, yeah, we had no practice, no qualifying.
I've never raised the truck you practice to chuck before
and never been a Darlington either. But um, the practice
that I did get was in the toy to sim.
So I'm not gonna sit here and say like, oh,

(36:53):
I've never seen the race tick before, Like, yeah, I
didn't do some sim stuff. I did run the truck
in the sim of course, you know, like I mentioned earlier,
it doesn't bet uh, you know, actual in truck or
in car experience, but um it did help me a
little bit. But um, you know, like I was saying,
like we were making a lot of games, We're getting
up to the field and then the wreck kind of
took us out of it, of course, but um, it
was a really cool experience. That is pretty amazing. No

(37:16):
practice time, no qualifying time, just get in the car
or the truck in this case and let them throw
the green flag. Good luck, man, have fun. So that's
that's pretty wide. Thanks to the pandemic for that, we
got some exciting, exciting rules. Right. So, as I watched
those trucks compete, and I really do like to watch that.

(37:37):
I hate the fact that they wrecked so much and
it slows the excitement and the pace of the of
the event down, but I love to watch those guys
when they get really racy at the same time, so
you live and die by the sword, right, But it
seems to me like those trucks really move around a lot, man,
I mean like a lot more than an Exfinity car,

(37:57):
Cup car and ARC car. Did did you have that sensation? Yeah?
I mean there were definitely way more on edge and
I expected, um, you know, they run the same the
same motor package with just a little bit more horsepower,
so they're unrestricted but pretty much the same thing as
an art a car, um, you know, for the most part.
And I expected it to be somewhat similar handing handling wise,

(38:19):
but listings were very on edge and very very era
in sensitive as well, So that was something to get
used to, and I think it took me, um, you know,
most of the first age and kind of figured that out.
But um, you know, RACINGTI the fifty one chuck of
Coblished Motorsports was just kind of um, you know, I
couldn't have been in a better situation for that race. So, um,
the fact that we we did as good as we
did was awesome, But I feel like it was a

(38:39):
little bit expected to just kind of go up there
and run well, and you know, that's what we did.
But um, you know, at the same time, we were
very little experienced driver wise, and you know, I had
never worked with Marty before either, so it was a
little bit of a challenge. You kind of get used
to that, and you know, having the same crew chief
throughout the entire one season so far and then switching
it out for that one race was a little bit difficult,
but I feel like me and Marty bond really well,

(39:01):
um with all the same stuff that we did, and
we kind of messed really well for the race as well.
So UM, for the most part, is comfortable as soon
as I could, you know, kind of figure it out
and kind of figure out all the different things that
were different than an UNGR car. But um, like you mentioned,
they're very they're very on edge. They move around a lot,
and that was something he used to So let me
ask you a quick question, and it might just be obvious.
Once you get clean air, you you get a better

(39:22):
read on the truck. But if you're in a situation
like you said, I think you said, start off whatever
the case may be. And the truck was a little
bit tight um at the beginning of the race. But
with all that arrow that's going on there, when do
you determine, Okay, the truck is tight or or or
I was just too close to the guy in front
of me, man, I just didn't have any any air

(39:44):
on the nose of this saying to help me get
it turned. When do you how do you determine when
it's mechanical grip or when it's arrow. Yeah, I think
it just depends on how how space how you are
and a lot of that just comes with experience. So
my feedback might have not been the best in the
first race, but I mean the first pit stuff, we
hit it right on the dot for the next restart,
So I guess because you know, I think Marty kind

(40:06):
of knew, um, what the other trucks had in their
in their trucks that made them so good in the
beginning of the race, Like they in the forward truck
were really good to fire off, So I think he
might have resorted to something similar to them. But he
did start me off tighter because I was a new
driver and I had that lack of experience. So um,
but like you mentioned, it is kind of hard to
judge you know how um, how your mechanical group is

(40:28):
versus your aero dynamical group. Um, and you know what
what is it actually? What are you actually struggling with? Right?
So UM, I've learned a little bit about that in
ARKA and you know the differences between those two, but um,
live ils you don't really get a very good read
on any aerodynamics is are not very sensitive in that department,
So um ARCA. I've learned most of that. And if

(40:48):
it wasn't for if it wasn't for the ARCA experience,
pretty much no idea what I was talking about. So, um,
that's up a little bit. But the trucks are definitely
more are of sensitive than the ARCT cars are. Yeah, man,
like driving a brick, right, I mean they're pushing a
lot of air. Yeah, no doubt. So you kind of
touched on this a little bit. Showing up at a
truck race with KBM. Uh, that brings some real pressure

(41:11):
to with it, you know, in that scenario because you
show up in one of those trucks on that program
A you don't get to get in that program unless
you've shown some real some real talent and be you know,
the equipment is going to be good, so you're expected
to have some results, I mean right off the bat,
and it doesn't really matter who you are. That's some
real pressure. Yeah, the pressure is there for sure. Um.

(41:35):
You know, I feel like as far as my preparation goes,
like that's mostly all comes down to, like if you
prepare well and you're really in the right mindset for
the race, like there's no reason you can't go out
there and do well. And also another thing that you
have to keep in mind is like you have to, um,
make sure you do everything you can and if if
something happens at that und of your control, like Toyota

(41:55):
knows that, like they're not gonna if you finish, Like
I finished twenty second in the truck race, but I
think most of that was out of my control, you
know what I mean, and like they realized that. So, um,
my main thing has just been keeping everything in control
that I possibly can and just preparing really well, staying hydrated, uh,
making my die good, working out everything like that, and
also making sure I do as much sim as I

(42:16):
can off the racetrack and watching a lot of film
as well. So um, you know, as long as I'm
really focused and committed to the program, I think, you know,
the results will kind of find themselves, which is there
they have so far, so I'm hoping to, you know,
keep this one medum up and then you know, finish
up there strong. Let's pause for a moment here to
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But it couldn't be further from the truth, especially when
you're dealing with the heat. But you are. You're on

(43:21):
the full plan, right, I mean you you are eating
extremely healthy, You're in the in a full workout program,
all the things that are expected from Toyota, from Toyota
that they would want their drivers to be doing. Yeah,
And I've really struggled with that. Um. You know, throughout
high school, I gained a lot of weight that was
very overweight. Um And you know, ever since, I kind

(43:42):
of realized that if I want to make it one day,
I'm gonna have to get in shape and start working
out and eating healthy. Um, that's when I started to
get a little bit committed. So um that all started
from me. In Toy nineteen, I lost a lot of
weight and I was still kind of on the heavier side.
So as soon as it got into the toy To program,
I found the innutritionist over there, Stephanie. She does a
really good job. You know, I'm not the skinniest person

(44:02):
in the world right now, but I've come a really
long way and I'm still making progress towards my goals.
So um, toy has done an awesome job of supplying us,
you know, all the tools we need. Um we have.
We have a lot of really healthy snacks here at
the gym. Not to here at the gym right now.
If you hear some sign of backcound, sorry about that,
but uh, I'm here at the gym now. We have
a lot of healthy snacks here. We we get shakes
after our workouts, and um. You know, of course I
mentioned the nutritioness as well. She has an awesome job

(44:24):
keeping us in shape and making sure that we have
everything we need as far as our preferences as well,
because you know, I think we all know eating healthy
isn't easy, so Um, she tries to do her best
to make it easy for us and do everything you
can to make it enjoyable and not just you know,
sometimes you have to you have to dry anything healthy.
So how cool is it to be in the gym there?

(44:45):
Who do you end up working out with? I mean
Denny Hamlin go walking through every now and again, or
or Kyle Bush. I mean you're working out with these
guys now they have they have their own little plan
at their house, I think. But you know, we got
we got guys here in the experiences. Harrison Burton works
out here all the time in New Handrake, Bubba Wallass,
Christopher bell Um. I find myself working out with like
Drew Dollar a lot, and some of the guys that

(45:07):
are in the Arctis series, like Channels, Stanley Turner Smith.
Of course these trucks now, but um, people that I know, um,
they group you with better. And people that you know better,
they they'll group you with just because it makes the
working a lot more enjoyable if you can be personal
personable the people that you're working out with. So me
and Drew could be along really good and we work
out with each other all the time. You know, Chandlery.
Derek Horows people like that. Um, they've they've been walking

(45:29):
back and forth down this all right here all the time,
just waving at me. So, um, you know, we're all
we're all really good friends here at the gym, and um,
I think I think we're gonna really only have two
people working out at the same time, so you don't
really see like a bunch of people in here at
the same time. But um, you definitely bumped shoulder with
most of the Toyle drivers here during the week. Yeah,
that's super cool and that camaraderie is what you build,

(45:49):
right and I'm sure those relationships also paid dividends. You're
chatting with them about your experiences, they're giving a little
bit back to you about their experiences, and you pick
up little tidbits here and there. Yeah, and I think
that's really big for me. At the Darlington Race, Um,
you know, I found myself talking to pretty much everyone
that's possibly I haven't even race there, just because you know,

(46:10):
you pick up on these little little tiny pieces of
information that could really go a long way in the race. Like, um,
I remember talking about the walls a bunch about it,
a little bit of John and Arnima Check was in
here one day and I talked to him about it,
and um, there was just a little bit of information
there that I wouldn't have learned if I was maybe
still living in Georgia or hadn't come to the gym
that day or something like that. So, um, you know,

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there's a little piece of information, a little uh, just
maybe a simple workout can go a long way for
your future. So UM, it's been it's been really good
to be a part of the Chitter program and just
being able to talk to those guys. It's been great.
Picking your brain here man and figure out where you
started and and certainly where you're at now. Uh, go
ahead and tell us what your goals are, give us
a little bit of a timeline. What what what do

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things look like for you in the future. Yeah, I
mean as far as timeline goes, I'm not really sure.
Of course, I want to continue my mask our career,
and um, I think my main goal should just be
a successful race car driver one day. And just um,
I know this might be kind of uncommon to say it,
but I just I just don't want to live with
any regrets, you know, I don't want to I don't
want to look back at this year and say, like, man,

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if I if I just did this one thing, or
if I did better in this one race or this
one year, I could have maybe made it. Like I
wanna every weekend, I want to execute and go out
there and try to do the best I possibly can
so I live life with no regrets. And um, you know,
as I mentioned, I want to be a successful race
car driver one day, whether that be in the Cup
Series or you know, hopefully hopefully the Cup Series of
course is the main goal. But um, as long as

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I'm successful in as long as I'm happy with what
I'm doing, that that's what I want to do for
my career. Quick question for you here, as a motorsports
broadcaster for twenty plus years, I'm curious if toy Yota
or anybody and for that matter, has sent you off
to a public speaking class. Um not Yeah, I've actually

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considered it. Um, I'm not the greatest public speaker right now,
but I've definitely come a long way over the years
just being able to be here and talk to people
in person and just kind of put myself out there
a little bit and all the all the interviews I've
done in the past. You know, two or three years
have been kind of helping me a lot. So you know,
three years ago, I was definitely considering it because my
first like four or five interviews and lay models were

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honestly just horrendous. So you know, my parents talked to
me about it at some point, so I almost signed up.
I almost signed up at one point. So you know,
like I said, I'm not the greatest public speaker. I
still stutter sometimes here and there, but um definitely come
a long way and I think I'm still improving on that. Well,
let me tell you something, my friend, to relax, You've
you've got it covered. Uh, you're a phenomenal speaker. You're

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you're a great interview and and hey, man, everybody's a
little a little timid whenever they first get that camera
stuck in front of him. It's just an awkward feeling,
you know. But if the broadcast or the pit reporter
does their job, they get you a question that makes
you feel comfortable and then you fall right in line.
But you've been you've been a fabulous interview. Man. You
are a great speaker. And I'm not blowing smoke, dude.

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If if it wasn't there, I just wouldn't say anything
at all. But I know you're you're an excellent speaker,
and man, your future is certainly very bright. I would
expect nothing less. I mean, listen, Jack Irving and the
in the gang at toy Yota. Uh, they're the best
at what they do, so they don't just grab anybody.
You've got to be somebody that's capable of the full package.

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And looking at you, obviously, the success behind the wheel
of the race car. Uh, the way you look, and
the way you're taking care of yourself, the way you've
made those changes, the way you speak on camera, your
results currently an inside of ARCA, and and already what
you're doing in the trucks. I mean, um, you're right
on part man. I think you're a phenomenal young man
and we really look forward to watching your career develop. Man.

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I really appreciate that makes me feel good about myself.
But no, I can't agree with you more. Um, you know,
Jack Irving and all those guys in Toyota, like they
do a really good job of, you know, just developing
me as a driver, developed me on and off the racetrack. Um,
I've come a long way. As far as you know,
like I mentioned, hell and just a physical side of
it and just the the entire outlook on my race weekend.

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Like when I was in Georgia, you know, racing for
Chad Bryan in twenty nineteen New Narka, I I really
wasn't able to be at the shop much like like
I mentioned earlier, and I would show up to the
racetrack just kind of didn't seem right. I just didn't
seem like I was logged in. I was kind of
still just you know, I had so many questions that
I booked up over the week that I was, you know,

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just not really mentally prepared to go out and raise
the race. Of course, we have practice back then qualifying
and wait a little bit more time to kind of
get used to it. But being at the shop all
week and um, you know, just talking to the guys
event any Motorsports at KBM or you know, whatever team
it may be, UM just really really helps me get
mentally prepared for the race. And I think that's you know,
it's just being mentally prepared and then then we go

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out and execute after that. So, UM, it's been awesome
ever since I've been up here I live in Davidson, now,
you know, probably five ten minutes from the gym. I can.
I can probably make it here in five minutes. So
whoever I need to talk to, if I'm if I'm
going through something or or just struggling with um my
mentality to come here and talk to Caitlin Quinn. You know,
I need the people here that that worked about st
to make us better, super super cool man. Well, thank

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you very much for taking the time. We'll keep our
eyes on you as as your career continues on and
certainly this year. I don't know if I want to
say it's a David versus Goliath thing there and an
arca because Venturiny is certainly not a David. But uh still,
the task will be tall, the battle will be very,
very tough, and that's what we love about the motorsports, right,
It's gonna it's gonna be a good, close battle all

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the way to the very end. So we wish you
nothing but the best of luck. And again, thank you
for taking the time to join us here on the show. Yeah,
I appreciate it. Thanks for having me on the day.
I was great talking to you, awesome ladies and gentlemen.
Corey him and now you know the skinny on the
young man trying to make a name for himself. Thanks
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