August 26, 2021 • 43 mins
This week on The Skinny with Rico and Ken…Buddy Kofoid and Zeb Wise discuss BC39. The race is held on the 1/4 dirt oval at IMS.
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Once again. Welcome back to the Skinny. Can stout here
and the track. Dude sitting alongside Michael Young. Thanks for
sitting in there, Michael, and we have one of the
young guns inside of the sport courtesy of the Toyota
Development Driving Program. His name is Michael co Foid. They
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call him Buddy. That's gonna be the first question we
asked him where that that came about? But to follow
up on what he has already accomplished. The first of all,
he's driving for one of the best teams in the
business and Keith Coon's Motorsports. You sak Rookie of the
Year in the National Midget Series, also qualified for the
A main in his rookie season and twenty at the
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Chili Bowl and finished seventh. What an accomplishment that is
to say the least has finished third and has finished
second the prelim nights there at the Chili Bowl. Buddy,
welcome to the show Man. Yeah, thank you for me.
It should be fun. So where did the name come from?
How to Michael co foid? And am I saying the
name right? First of all? Go for so? So who
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who decided? By the way, Dad's sitting over in the corner, so, uh,
that might be your answer right there. From the pronunciation
to have the emphasis on co instead of void, it's
co foid. Yeah, No, it's spelled how it sounds. And
you know, you'd be surprising how many people get it
wrong or how many people add letters in that have
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no business being there. But how many track announcers over
your time and driving have just butchered the name? Uh
quite a bit. The worst was what? The worst nunciation
never was what? Uh, Well, I've heard void to somehow
and A found its way in there and then co
fold or co ford. I don't Over the past few years,
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it's gone a lot better now, variations of it. Yeah,
and I'm guilty of the void by the way. I mean, well,
I think where you're doing the chili balls in the
booths chili bowl, and I think it's just easy to
rattle off. The only time I've ever heard was actually
at the wild Wing shootout in Arizona. Was the only
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time I heard it, um. But other than that, it's
it's been pretty good the past couple of years. So
you've got to now. So I didn't hear that one,
but it was more official when I did. Where did
the buddy come from? How? How did buddy become the
nickname for you? So it did come from my dad,
I figured, Um, I think I was only a couple
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of years old and he referred to me as his
little buddy, and then it and into buddy, and then
it transpired into racing where everyone just called me buddy
and pretty accept In school I was it was always Michael.
But pretty much everyone I know he calls me buddy,
and I've never heard them refer to me as Michael.
Probably a good thing. At the race tracker, is your
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father's name is Michael? Correct? Yeah, so probably a good
way to distinguish between the two. Everybody's saying Michael and
they're they're mad at Michael, and Dad's turned around like
what what do I didn't do anything I'll here, Michael,
and sometimes I wonder if they're even talking to me,
the whole Cofoy junior thing, and then they said that
it's junior, and yeah, you're not a junior. Not that's
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not what's your middle name? Powers? Actually? Really? And how
did that come about? So I think, how did it go?
You're so my dad's stepdad, Gary coo Foyd, adopted my
dad and his last name is co Foy obviously, and um,
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my dad's real dad's last name is Powers. So when
I was born, they made it my middle name. But
it's technically not two last names. It really is just
my middle name. So my my dad's dad's name is
Mike Powers and my my step grandpa, Gary co Foyd
is his last name is co Foy, so they made
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that my dad's last name, and now it's you know,
it's obviously all of ours under my dad. So that's awesome.
Three no way of getting around that one. Yeah, no
different middle names, all of them from what I understand.
So that's super cool man. Yeah, yeah, you always wonder
about some of those things, you know, it's interesting. Where's
it come about? Yeah, your story actually is pretty interesting
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with the step dads and the dad's involved. Yeah, and really,
from what I understand, when Gary's ancestors came from Denmark,
that's where co Foid, that's where the name comes from.
His Denmark and it was co fed ko f o
E D And from what I remember, the spelling got changed.
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So they made a co Foid on accident. So that's
why there's very few covoids. I've never been another Covoid.
So when the family came over, someone misspelled it and
then you're stuck with it. Yeah. The people that I guess,
I don't know if it's when you come into the country,
whoever takes your name down. Those Ellis Island people, they
were horrible. They did the same thing. My my wife's
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maiden name is Hoolahan and they did the same thing.
They changed the spelling there too whenever they came over
from Ireland. So it's not the first time I've heard
of that. Yeah, it's unique. So you got an interesting
piece on your right wrist there. What's going on with
the right wrist? So, Um July actually on my dad's
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birthday too. Um. I was running a pavement late model
in Elko, Minnesota, and long story short, pass the guy
he got in the back of me and didn't get
off me and drove me to the fence into one
and left sided and everything like transmission motor, everything broke.
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Broke out of the car and shifted over to the left,
and the shifter crushed the sheet metal next to my
seat and it was close to the wheel in my seat.
So they think my hand bounced off the shifter and
fractured my nibicular bone. So I've had it on for
a little over two weeks now, so hopefully I can
get her off the next couple of few And yeah,
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all it did was all it did. But it chipped
the top a bone off the top of my foot,
And I said, there's nothing you can do about it
doesn't hurt right now. Really, I'd say it's probably already.
Um but you know, it didn't need a cast or
anything like that. I just said it would just heal.
Which foot was it? My left one? Well, you don't
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need that one anyhow, so now not not too my
I mean pavement you actually, yeah, you do need quite
a bit. But and the dirt stuff you can kind
of get away with it. But the first time I
got back in a car, it was about a week later,
and I didn't have any pain really in my foot.
It's just certain movements just kind of flares it up.
But you're left foot breaking on the midget, aren't you
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a little bit? Yeah? Handful? Um wing sprint car is
definitely quite a bit. Yeah, So I read where you
said that the wrist actually is too painful to drive
the wing sprint car, but you were able to push
through in the midget. Yeah. I wouldn't say it's painful
for the sprint car. It's just it's a different technique
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compared to the midget, where like you're a lot of
left hand and you like, I flipped my right hand
a lot in the midget, and I at the time
I thought I floated it a lot more. Until I
got in I was like, oh, I actually use my
right hand more than I thought. But where where you know,
where the wing sprint car you use your both hands
pretty equally, i'd say, and especially I was gonna run
the Nationals, and you know, I thought it was a
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good idea to take it off. Unfortunately, but you know,
I got some advice from other drivers, and you know,
because I've never been there, and you know, they say
he's right hand a lot, and I could, you know,
barely even I can't use my wrist, and you know
as the wheel, as you turn the wheel, you bend
your wrist to compensate so you don't have to chicken
wing your arm, and so I it was pretty much
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down a whole hand. So in the midjat I can
kind of get away with it. Though, So I I
heard that they actually molded the cast to the steering
wheel or the shape of the steering wheel. Yeah, so, um,
I brought my wheel with me, um, because I get
my cast change every two weeks. Actually, since they're lent
me race with it to keep it clean, and since
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i'thing probably gonna be abusing it a little bit. But yeah,
they held the wheel. I held the wheel, and they
molded it just around here, just and kept my palm
open enough to where I could get my hand on
it and hook my thumb on it and somewhat keep
it rested on it or give it a little feedback
or you know, use it a little bit if I
need to. So I saw a video that was I
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thought hilarious and quite a genius on your part, where
you took a glove and cut up a glove and
some sock. Can you you made a whole new type
of gloves, tell us about it. So uh k one
helped out a lot with that. Um. We went to
their store in North Carolina and said, we need to
mess with a couple of different size of gloves, since
I'm a medium and the cast is a lot thicker,
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and it's like so we just cut up some gloves
and and picked which ones worked the best and try
different things. And and because usually the gloves go down
to hear, so we cut it like to hear um
just because it got so tight over you know, over
the back of the thumb and into the wrist where
I couldn't get it on. So we cut it and
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kept it kind of open up where it's cut down
the sides, so it's almost gonna like put like a
handle almost. And then with the flap and the rest
of the has exposed, we cut up a sock and
just rolled it over it, and then it sets over
the cup of my soup, so it keeps everything kind
of closed up and it holds the back of the
club down. And we call that contraption. I belin you,
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said a guy as well. Yeah, but so and then
I I thought of a better word to use after that,
which they couldn't use. I said, a clock. Well, but
that's a weapon, right, And that's well and with the
with that cast it could be. But that's what I
was thinking. I'm like, man, he's so good that in
his mind in that one moment, he said, well, I
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can't say glocks, so I'll call it a cock. And
I said it after that, and like, oh, we can't
use that. Like all, that's fair enough. They've already trademarked
that one. Can't you can't use that one. Hey, we're
gonna take a quick break here and we'll be right
back in just a few moments with more action from
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today once again, welcome back to the Skinny. We have
one of the young guns in the USACH Battle UH
for the National Midget Points. His name is Buddy Covoid.
His actual name is Michael, but everybody refers to him
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as Buddy. And we should also tell you that while
we've had a little bit of time with him already,
and yes he does have a broken wrist and a
hurt foot, he is still leading in the points in
that USACH National Midget Chase. About twenty races are so
left to go inside of the season, so there's a
lot to be accomplished yet. Yeah, that's though quite a
bad I think we'd just past the halfway point. We've
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done about twenty two races. Maybe we probably have about
eighteen to twenty left, so um. Yeah, it's a little
tough obviously with my cast situation, but I've been able
to adapt a little bit and over p a midweek
I kind of figured out some ways to help myself
and change some stuff in the car to make it
easier for me at least and until I can get
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it off. But yeah, it's we had a kind of
one bad night for sure, and that kind of tightened
the back up. The last couple of races we found
some speed and was able to extended a little bit.
So the obvious choices, when is it coming off? I'm sorry,
the obvious question is when is it coming off? I
would say, um, hopefully the first week of September two
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week would be my hope first week. So how old
are you? Nineteen? So you're nineteen. The NASCAR Series was
just in Indianapolis for the big race weekend at the
Indianapolis Motor Speedway, and there's also an event going on
at the speed what it called the BHET thirty nine
on the dirt track there. Now, at the age of nineteen,
you became a coach for some pretty familiar names in
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the racing world. Tell us about that story. Yeah, so, um,
you know, one of the really cool things is for
me being involved with Toyota is is getting to work
with UM. I hang out with some of the you know,
the bigger drivers in NASCAR and HRA and stuff like that.
And we uh had this day called Toyotoday this past
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Wednesday where we had they had about ten drivers across
Toyota from Cup to Exfinity two trucks to Funny Cars
and Top Fuel and then even Formula Drift where they
came in and Keith brought about six midgets and they
all got to take turns driving him. So I got
to coach uh Ty Gibbs, who he was the only
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one that drove my car as far as him and
I are, like, we're the only one that were the
same size. Really, so I only had one guy in
my car, So I got to work with Tyle lot
and hang out with him, and then I got to
talk to Martin true X a lot, and then Daniel
Hemry quite a bit, and um, so it's cool to
hang out with those guys and and watch their progression
actually from when they first got into the last time.
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So um, yeah, it was a pretty cool experience and
just a different role for me that I've never really
got to experience before. So is it hard not to
be a fan in that situation that like, you're you're
the professional in a midget and you're coaching these guys
but at the same time looking up to them ever
so slightly and like to do what they do someday. Yeah, No,
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I would agree. Um, you know, ty was really cool.
But you know, I thought Mark Mark Martin was really
cool to hang out with and and to just like
see his reaction to the midgets and and you know,
like I told ty So that this will probably one
of the coolest experiences you've gotten to do. And then
like he got to do cold us. He's like, well
that's pretty cool. So none of those guys are really
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done dirt. So to go from you know, an Exfinity car,
arcer car, Cup car, whatever to a you know, a
small wheelbase dirt midget, um, you know, I would think
would be quite a bit of a big change for
them and probably a lot of fun. So um, yeah
it was cool. It was also hard not to you know,
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I wanted to drive too, but um, it was just
as cool watching them. And like I said, like watching
their progression was just like huge, Like Martin from being
of the day to the end was like a huge swing,
and he was he looked pretty good and and Troon
Brown was really good and and I it was a
timed like a competition type thing. So I was working
with ty a lot and actually jarred my cru chief
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like we're making changes every time we went out, like
treating as kind of a big deal, like we want
to win this thing, and didn't quite do that, but
it was quite a lot of fun. That's pretty crazy.
I mean, Martin, you kind of you would understand. I
could see him adapting and and putting it together, you know,
a little quicker than saying and Troon Brown. I mean,
there's a guy that goes straight for a living, hops
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inside of the thing, and he was doing a good job. No,
it's entering. His first one was not that great, yeah,
but his last, his last round, he he looked good
and you know, I was on the throttle and entered
the corner good and you know, kept it rotated and
you know, didn't let off and get it tight. So
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he he looked good. And really they all progressed pretty well,
I think. Um. But you know that Ryan Turk from
Formula Drift, like he he was his first one to
his last one is really really cool too. And it's
it's funny watching him because you know the drift guys
they got the handbrake, I would assume, and they're always
moving their hands run so he's trying to enter the
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corner with throttle and then you can hear him push
the brakes as well. Box it down instead of like
you know, getting on it, getting off and getting the
car set. And then you could see him he's like
moving his hands around like he's got a wheel and
he's trying to turn it, which the Formula drift cars
they you know there will probably turns a lot more
than ours, just you know, probably ninety degrees each way.
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And he's thrown it in. Then he's dropping a hand
like he's trying to cut it around. But it is
crazy and he actually he was pretty fast here towards
the end. But it was like watching the insight, like
we're on the infields and watching get in the corner.
Watching him like drop his hand and then like grab
it again is like, you know, the wheels don't turn
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that much, but it's funny, it's cool. It is pretty
cool the different disciplines to see what you know, those
habits that those guys are gonna bring in and then
be on something completely different. And and of course the
midget has such a high level of respect, you know,
from from history, you know, watching the best in the
business come through that and then seeing somebody do what
you're doing and then have those guys get in it
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from their discipline that's I think it's a really cool
moment and the fact that they chose you to come
out there and work with those guys is super cool. Yeah,
I know it is a blast and and like so
that's one of the many cool things that I get
to do, as for as being involved with Hood and
meeting those guys and then getting to do those cool
little events. So BC thirty nine and coming up, you're
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part of that racing with a plethora of of names
in motor sports from Chase Elliott, Connor Daily all the
way down to some of the very very best step
Wise who won the last one in twenty nineteen. Big
event for you coming up looking forward to it, I
would imagine, yeah, definitely. Um, I would say this is
probably one of our biggest midget races that we get
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to run for this year as far as prestige and
what it means and then you know even the money. Um.
And also this will be my first BC thirty night
as well. I haven't been in midget racing that long.
In my first year was last year, so we didn't
get to run it, so um, you know that in
itself will be exciting just to race it a new
place for the first time. And for those who don't know,
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Brian Clawson one of the all time greats in in
in midget sprints and Silver Crown Cars. Was he an
idol of yours growing up? Yeah, I'd say, um, you know,
him coming from California moving to Indiana is kind of
the similar path that I've taken so far. Um, you know,
like like he said, he he was probably one of
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the best all around versatile drivers. I would say his time. Um,
you know, Kyle is another example obviously, and Tyler Cortney
does a really good job at it too. But Brian
was you know, he'd win in whatever he got in,
So yeah, I would say definitely. So how does that
relationship begin with Keith Coon's Motorsports? His dad pick up
the phone and say, hey, Keith, you know, is there
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an opportunity can my son drive with you? Or is
that a Toyota inspired move? That was a Toyter inspired move? Um.
I had been raised in sprint cars for handful of
years in California and always wanted to go out to
the Midwest. And I talked to Carson Massito in two
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thousand eighteen and asked if there was anyone I could
get ahold of to get out there to Ohio at
the time, and he gave me a couple of names,
and one of them was Mike Linder, who run who
at the time ran ed New Meister's program. And I
called him and and did a couple of races and
tales and eighteen they hired me full time in two
thousand nineteen, so I drove sprint cars in the Midwest
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full time. And then about um August I think it was,
I got a text on Twitter from Jack Irving, who
manages the Toyota Driver Development program, and um, and he
just kind of said, hey, like you know, it's Jack Irving,
and you know, explained what he did and he said
call me Monday. Was like, yeah, that's a good guy
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to get a text message. Yeah, And UM, you know,
in a way, I've never really heard of that happening either,
And that's like nothing. I don't come from money to
where I like I could just pick up the phone
like I'm in it just based off of them hiring
me otherwise. You know, at the time, I had no
intentions of getting in imaget. I was in the process
of looking for another ride to go out probably more
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of a national level and sprint cars, Like I had
no idea I'd be running midgets and be with Toyota
and so then, yeah, I did a handful of races
at the end of two thousand nineteen while I was
when the first year I moved to Ohio and ran
sprint cars, and I actually won my first race for
Keith in the midget, and then I ran second and
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third my next two races, and then I did a
couple of U Sack races out West and ran six
at the Turkey Night So it was a pretty pretty
good for as few races I guess, I would say,
And um yeah at the time, I had really never
ran an I midget before that, so I had no
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idea quite what I was doing yet. And then you know,
my next race was Chili Bowl and ran third of
my pre lum and then locked in the show and
went to the seventh and was pretty good then. And uh,
you know all last year ran uh you Sack full
time and power I when Usak wasn't racing, and it's
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the same scood to this year, so um yeah, I
know it's it's been a blast friend for Kakim and
getting to represent Mobile one in their house car and
getting to deal with Toyota two has been pretty cool.
We wish you the best of luck, my friend. Obviously
you're a tough guy. You don't keep scrapping with a
broken wrist if you're not best of luck chasing this
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championship as well. You're sitting in a great position and
uh certainly proven to be a worthy candidate of what
Jack or I mean. Thanks you're capable of. Thank you
for me only show. It's been a lot of fun
and hopefully be talking to you guys pretty seon hopefays
the champions Keep your eyes on him, ladies and gentlemen.
He's a badass. Civil Lives is making his way to
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talent as well. Of course, we just finished up with
Buddy co Foyd. I'd like to welcome back to the show, Rico.
You've been super busy, my friend. Great to have you
back at the desk. Great to be back. I thought
Michael was trying to take one job that apparently I'm
back on so well. I saw you carry him out
by the nap of his neck. I think you're safe
for a little bit. So that's uh good stuff. And
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joining us now is one of those young guns. Matter
of fact, filled in for Buddy co Foyd just a
week or so ago. Let's welcome him to the desk here.
Zeb Wise, come on in, Bud. Great to have you
with us. Zep. By the way, doing great in the
All Star fifth in the Points, does have a win
All Star Rookie of the Year, finished third in the Points,
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had a win there as well, with three top five's
and probably your biggest win. Correct me if I'm wrong.
The two thousand nineteen BC thirty nine pretty special moment.
Manh Yeah, that was a special day for for me
and everyone at Costomos Racing that obviously that race meant
a lot to them for obvious reasons, and um, that
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was a very special day. We knew leading into that
we were in a pretty good spot after Wednesday, went
out the heats, and um, I just remember sitting down
and just like, man, how do I not screw this up?
You know, I'm in a good spot. Let's make the
most of it. And started fifth in the feature, and
everything just kind of fed right in line, got got
to the lead a little early. I was a little
worried honestly that I got to lead that early and
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was a little scared, um that we were going to
be too good too early. But everything played in our
favor and uh somehow didn't wreck with Kyle and end
up winning. Yeah, a great battle with Kyle. To a
matter of as I recall, I think Kyle might have
fed you a right rear that ended up cutting his
own right rear and boom he was gone. Uh. Yeah,
I just remember, like I the two or three laps
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before that where there's a caution and then uh, like
the two or three laps before that, caution. Me and
Kyle were just getting started on a battle and then
caution came out and we had that restart, and I
you know, anytime you have Kyle breathing on your neck,
you're nervous. And I remember going down in the turn
one and I didn't see him and I thought I
was safe. And then I went into turn three and
here he came, and then uh, it was a long slider, uh,
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and I was I did everything I could to stay
off of my At first, I was like going to
check up to let him go by, and then I
was like, oh, it's too late. I got to try
to go around it. And then um, yeah, he clipped
me in the left fear And honestly, I have no
idea how my car didn't break, because I was four
wheels up on the wall and I think it would
have been in my drag link and the car was
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a handful from that at that point on. But uh,
hung on. And it's worth mentioning this was a couple
of years ago. He's eighteen now, so sixteen years old
battling with arguably I think any I think anybody would
call him the best in the business as it stands
here today, Kyle Larson. Yeah, and it's funny, like we
look at that race, but I think one that stands
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out to me is Action Track and that was that
year as well. Me and Kyle threw bombs at each
other like the last four or five laps, and it
was probably some of the most fun I've ever had
in a midget. Um. But yeah, me and Kyle seem
to every time we get around each other. Not so
much in the sprint car because he pretty much seems
to just drive away whenever you get around him, but um,
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in the midget stuff, we seemed a battle pretty well.
Is that are those moments they have to be confidence builders?
But do you in the moment, do you take a
second or a portion of a second and say to yourself, Man,
I'm good enough to race with somebody at this level,
Like I've got this man, I'm gonna battle with this guy.
I'm not gonna just give it to him because it's
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Kyle Larson. Yeah. I feel like you see that a
lot to like those when guys getting battles with him
or Bell or guys like that that caliber, they kind
of they don't really back down, but they don't race
them as hard as they would anyone else. And I've
always been confused on that, because, if anything, you should
race them harder than anyone else. And that's kind of
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just how I've always treated racing Kyle and Christopher. You
just can't can't let them go by, because they're good
enough to get by you if they can. So um,
I just always always race them as hard as I
would anyone else. Amazing stuff. And you know, at the
age of sixteen, I mean so I you know, we
had Kyle on um. I guess it was Chili Bowl
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a year. That's the year he had flipped violently down
in Australia and New Zealand. Yeah, yeah, I had blood
blood there that yeh, Yeah, I was in New Zealand
the same time he did that. That was crazy about it. Yeah,
I just remember I was sitting in staging, UM and
I ready to rull on the track at Western Springs,
and I looked to my left and I see this
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car flying through the air and I'm like, oh, that
was big, you know, And I'm about to go on
the track. So my crew guy comes down and he's like, hey,
just be careful off of two. That cushion is pretty
big and I'm like, who was that? That just flipped
and there like that was Kyle And I'm like no,
like who really who was it? And they're like that's
Larson and I'm like, oh, boy, like because you never
expect Kyle to wreck, right, and it was pretty wild. No,
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that was spectacular, and then your might immediately you're like, well,
if Kyle can wreck, yeah, I know, I'm like, man
of Kyle's reckon, what am I gonna do? So yeah,
that was a crazy night. And then you ended up
having to sit out a few nights, which gave us
a chance to run up front. So uh yeah, just
glad he was okay after that. The I think the
eye was the least of his worries. It's funny on
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the side here the psyche. If a driver is oh,
if it's some backmarker, he just made a mistake. But
as soon as you hear it's Kyle, it's like, oh ship,
yeah that's real. Yeah. It's kind of like Cleipper talking
about talking about Clay, you know when they went out
there and media day and immediately trash the back of
you don't have the flat footed around there, boom out
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of the park. Yeah exactly. So so you're splitting your
time between midget's, wing sprints, anything else you're doing. Oh, um,
every now and then I'll jump in a micro, but
it's pretty far and few between. I don't really run
them that much anymore. UM I like to go. I
race obviously sprint cars full time on the All Star Tour,
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and then I just jump in midgets whenever I can. Uh,
we run we have. We actually took three Mattwood Midget
Racing uh matt Wood Racing midgets home from Chili Bowl
this year, and Storm and our barn right beside the
sprint cars, and UM just kind of run them. This
This will be my first time running get outdoors, but UM,
I plan on running some of Midget Week, and the
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way the All Star schedule kind of panned out, we
didn't get to but um, so, yeah, this would be
my first time outdoors and none of the matt Wood
guys are here, so it's me and my dad and
my brother in law and UH see what we can do.
My dad's been working on midgets for the last couple
of years, so I think we'll be just fine. That's awesome. Yeah,
speaking of midgets, have you ever considered running the uh
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the Fort Wayne race. Uh so I have a lot
of history at that race. To be honest with you,
I ran uh ran Quarterman just there for years and
I apologize I should say, in the midget race. Yeah no, yeah,
I really do want to run the midget race there. Um.
I've always grown up obviously going there running Quarterman just.
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I always went there and watch midgets and watch Tony
dominate there. And um my dad actually is like co
owner and the midget the races that Derek bishak Um
and he wanted a couple of years back. So yeah,
it's uh sounds like you've talking to the car owner, right.
I need to get in there. Huh. Yeah, I would
love to. It's a great event. I'm telling you. It's
a lot like you know, it reminds me of you know,
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the speed Rome, like when you know everybody was like
why are you racing the speed Rum? You know Brian
Claws and ran the speed Drum a lot in the beginning,
and uh And I'm telling you, if you know how
to get around that place, just like at Fort Wayne,
if you know how to get around that place and
and stay off as somebody you know, you you've you've
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got talented and it tracks anything bigger enough, you know,
so it'd be it'd be great to see you there.
I mean Larry bow is a good friend of ours
as well, and you know that puts the show on
and so we uh will be there. So you get
Tony to put another car together, I'll be there. I'll
be seeing him later. Well maybe we'll come out of
your pet and have a word with him about it. So,
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by the way, we need to congratulate you and let
the fans that might not know who you are. I
know some of your accomplishments as well. You mentioned the
chili bowl. I know you've been there a couple of
times in the midget um. I don't know if you
haven't made the yet, right, No, I have the worst
luck in that building. Yeah, I saw you pass a
lot of cars. Yeah, I'm good as you can do
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that when you start in the maybe eat to the
d to the sea. I mean, you passed a lot
of cars. But man, you've been really good there at
the shootout four Class four amins in two separate years.
I mean that's quite an accomplishment. And you do own
a driller. You won one of those a mains at
the shootout. Yeah, the shootout has been Honestly, I think
I use all my luck out at the shootout instead
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of at the Chili Bowl. But um, yeah, the shootouts
been so kind to me. I think I'm I think
I'm thirteen from fourteen on a main starts. Um yeah,
that's that. Race has always been so good to me
and I don't really know why. Um, but yeah, I
just always been a race I really enjoyed. Um. Hopefully
I don't know that I'll be there this year because
hopefully I can go back to New Zealand Race and
Midge stuff out there, but uh yeah, hopefully. Yeah. I
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need Chili a good for at least one year. Him. Hey,
we're gonna take a quick break here. We'll be right
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Once again, welcome back to the Skinny. Rico Elmore has
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joined us here on the back half of this show.
It was great to have Buddy co Foid on to
kick things off here with Michael Young the track dude.
Now we have zeb Wise sitting in his seat, who's
actually filled in for Buddy as uh as you know
if you watch the beginning of the show, Buddy broke
his wrist and uh and hurt his foot and in
lieu of that you got a chance to hop inside
of the sprint car and fill in for him a
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little bit. We should also say that, um, he's the
youngest midget winner in the history of U Sex, taking
that honor away from Brian Clawson of all people. So
it's it's funny when you see some of the ties
that have come together for you when your career already
with the class and Marshall team. Yeah, so that was
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in twenty I think it was team when I took
that record away. Um, Tim we were standing victory Lane
and I I'll never forget when they came on and said, uh,
zeb wise, now the youngest national winner in history. Um,
and we kinda me and Tim look at each other
and we're like, oh, that's pretty cool. Who was the
last guy that had that? And he didn't and and
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we had to ask. I think it was Spridge or
Richie Murray or someone with the USAC and they said
it was Brian and uh, Tim goes, there's not many
people that I would want to break that record, but
you're definitely up there on the list. And ironically, so
now fast forward one and now that record is broken
again by another class and Marshall driver. Um so yeah,
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Corey Day just broke my record just a month ago.
I think it was so uh yeah, it's crazy. I
mean it shows what Tim can do with a young
driver and his his eye for young drivers as well
to be able to pick those guys too. They're just
getting younger. It seems like I remember, like when I
raised midgets, I was the young guy and I was
fifteen and sixteen years old, and now that's pretty common
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in midgets. So yeah, it's definitely taking a transition old
guy now, I know. And it's and you know, I
was thinking when you were saying that. I mean, Brian
was kind of the the exception back in the day,
you know what I mean with with how young he was,
because you had, you know, people like Tracy Hines, Levi
Jones and and so on and so on that we're
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in the you know, in the mix at that point.
And uh, you know too, I am truly amazed by,
um the age of these drivers. Now, okay, you included,
I mean you're I watched you and you know, I
of course, you know, everybody's skeptical when you get in
something new, right, I was like, and how's he going
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to do in the wing sprint, you know, in this
in this big four ten and and with these animals,
because there are a lot of animals that are in
the All Stars and uh, you know, and so it
was great to watch you transition over there. Uh again,
amazing to watch Sunshine do the same thing, uh with
with their program. So uh it's really cool to see that.
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And you've ran some shows with the Outlaws too. I
think what shows have you ran with them? In the
wing car? Um? Well, I just recently ran the nationals
um and then obviously King's Royal pretty much the big
shows and then just filling stuff. I ran Hobst and
what else? Did I run Port Royal a couple of times?
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And yeah, just kind of little little filling stuff. But yeah,
I runed them right now, little filling stuff, little fling.
So let's let's let's krate on that Knoxville Nationals, that
little stuff that pre Limnite qualified on the pole ol
and was running fourth when unfortunately diff broke on the car.
So yeah, just filling it. It's a little bit of stuff,
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you know out here and there you know, h hit
a micro show Knoxville Nationally well on the pole and
pre limb Night on Knoxville. Dude, what was that like? Yeah?
That was crazy. Um. Obviously I wasn't even I wasn't
even gonna be there. I wasn't even gonna be there
to watch um. And I got the call Sunday night
to go run, go fill in for buddy UM. And
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we you know, I went into that race with zero expectations,
and I think they were the same way because before
that I only had probably fifty laps there in four
and uh, we go there and honestly didn't didn't qualify
that great qualified twenty twod We knew I was gonna
start us fourth in the heat, and then I told myself,
I can just get the second here. That'll probably put
us in a you know, definitely lock us into the feature,
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get us in a decent spot, and uh, I'll never forget.
I went forth a second heat race and I'm sitting
sitting on the cooler, and I get a text from
Brian Walker, the PR guy for the Outlaws, and he says, dude,
You're not gonna believe this, and uh, I feel like
it was like I've never felt nerves come to me
that quick because I knew exactly what he was gonna say,
and uh yeah. I ended up being on the pole
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that race, and um what the caliber guys were behind
me and my inexperience. I knew that I was gonna be,
you know, in trouble, that I was gonna be under
attack for sure, but I knew if I could just
maintain and getting a good spot, that we would be
just fine. And that's what I was doing. I had
settled in the fourth um and just kind of was
gonna ride and I knew, uh, Donnie hadn't passed me out,
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so he was gonna be there. But as long as
I'm in front of Donnie. It's a good night. Yeah,
he's all right, and I was I was just cruising
around and fourth and uh yeah we had a part break.
But um, that was a blast of a week. I
had so much fun. And then I ended up filling
in for Paul too, so I filled in for two
drivers on the same team the same week, double duty.
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That's awesome. Um, talk to me real quickly before we
run out of time here. You've got a big week
coming up here a matter of fact, you'll be on
the track tonight and then of course again tomorrow night
as once again the BC thirty nine has come back around. Yeah,
we race obviously tonight, will do I think practice heats
and then the stoops are suit if I end up
being in that, and then uh we we race tomorrow,
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which is I think qualifiers and lower mains and then
obviously a main um and then Friday we're back on
the All Star Tour at in Michigan, and then uh
we got to I think Waynesfield, Ohio on Saturday. So
four days straight here will be busy guy, great stuff
and the only driver to win a pursuit race and
the actual a main at the BC thirty nine and
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we were chatting about that pursuit race. It's kind of fun. Uh,
it's a different format to put on a show for
the fans here tonight. Oh yeah, it is a very
different format. Um. Obviously you're laps with five lap segments
and then they take you know, if you go backwards
your you get pushed to the infield. So um, it's
definitely different, and I think it creates a little Uh,
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it definitely gets hectic at the beginning for sure because
you cannot go backwards. Um. In the year I wanted,
I think, you know, obviously you're better off the starting
back because you can only go forward. Um. And I
started seventeenth and ended up winning it. So um, yeah,
it's a different format. Mean it really interested to see
how the track plays out tonight because they haven't been
on it obviously in two years. So um yeah, interested
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to see what the track does. That's kind of my
reasoning for picking a later heat so that way maybe
the tracks a little wider and we can see what happens.
But yeah, hopefully he's have a good heat race tonight
and getting a good spot. So Rico, I'm not real
sure what he was doing out there at two am,
but apparently he's already viewed the track somewhere around two
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am this morning. Two am. Yeah, that sounds like us
being out of the track that we aren't usually viewing
that tracks, or we could have been standing on it
and not seeing it at two am. But I went around,
I went around and uh when we were there for
the for the brickyard, and uh, it's it's I mean
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it's nice. They've they've got it. They've got it groom
pretty well. Of course, it was just you know, wide open. Um.
I was amazed with that that there's still a little
little extra agg in it, you know. And uh, but
that that place, you know, every year it seems like
that track this keeps getting better and better and uh
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definitely will be interesting. That's a great, great strategy to
see if the track and widen out, get a little
more date on it, and try to understand what the
cars are doing out there. So yeah, they've proved that. Um,
you know, when they get the track right, they can
it produces a great racing. It's perfect midget track, couldn't
be any better size, So excited to be on it.
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We certainly wish you the best of luck. We appreciate
you taking the time to come in here. And uh
and phillis in a little bit of the action behind
the man of zeb Wise and your young career. Boy,
you've you've just done a fabulous job to get things going. Aspirations.
Do you have any do you have a goal? Would
it be anycar? Would be Nascar? You at World Outlaws?
What's the final step? Uh? The outlet Tour? Um, that's
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just kinda ever since I was five years old. Um. Actually, Rico,
there was a guy that was interviewing all the kids
in Quartermage. It's at the Rumble one year, and he
took us all, took us all at the room and
was interviewing all is you know, what do you want
to do when you get older? What do you want
to do? And every kid said, I want to go
to NASCAR. I want to go to NASCAR, and I
was I was the only one that said anything different.
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I said I want to go to the outlet Tour.
And he thought that was so crazy. I was only
six or seven years old and I wanted to go
to the outlet Tour and I've stuck to it, and uh,
I think I'm on the right track. So where's all
those other kids? Probably not in Nascar. Probably not in Nascar.
That's about it. Not even close. He's got the goals.
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So that's awesome. Man. We uh, we're happy for you.
It's a huge accomplish but like you've done so Yeah,
thank you guys for having me on. Man on that
note will wrap things up. You now know the Skinny,
or at least part of it. On the Young Gun,
zeb Wise, hope you enjoyed the show. We'll see you
next time here on the Skinny. Buddy Coboy finished tenth
in the A Main at the BC thirty nine and
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Once again. Welcome back to the Skinny. Can stout here
and the track. Dude sitting alongside Michael Young. Thanks for
sitting in there, Michael, and we have one of the
young guns inside of the sport courtesy of the Toyota
Development Driving Program. His name is Michael co Foid. They
(00:45):
call him Buddy. That's gonna be the first question we
asked him where that that came about? But to follow
up on what he has already accomplished. The first of all,
he's driving for one of the best teams in the
business and Keith Coon's Motorsports. You sak Rookie of the
Year in the National Midget Series, also qualified for the
A main in his rookie season and twenty at the
(01:06):
Chili Bowl and finished seventh. What an accomplishment that is
to say the least has finished third and has finished
second the prelim nights there at the Chili Bowl. Buddy,
welcome to the show Man. Yeah, thank you for me.
It should be fun. So where did the name come from?
How to Michael co foid? And am I saying the
name right? First of all? Go for so? So who
(01:27):
who decided? By the way, Dad's sitting over in the corner, so, uh,
that might be your answer right there. From the pronunciation
to have the emphasis on co instead of void, it's
co foid. Yeah, No, it's spelled how it sounds. And
you know, you'd be surprising how many people get it
wrong or how many people add letters in that have
(01:49):
no business being there. But how many track announcers over
your time and driving have just butchered the name? Uh
quite a bit. The worst was what? The worst nunciation
never was what? Uh, Well, I've heard void to somehow
and A found its way in there and then co
fold or co ford. I don't Over the past few years,
(02:13):
it's gone a lot better now, variations of it. Yeah,
and I'm guilty of the void by the way. I mean, well,
I think where you're doing the chili balls in the
booths chili bowl, and I think it's just easy to
rattle off. The only time I've ever heard was actually
at the wild Wing shootout in Arizona. Was the only
(02:33):
time I heard it, um. But other than that, it's
it's been pretty good the past couple of years. So
you've got to now. So I didn't hear that one,
but it was more official when I did. Where did
the buddy come from? How? How did buddy become the
nickname for you? So it did come from my dad,
I figured, Um, I think I was only a couple
(02:56):
of years old and he referred to me as his
little buddy, and then it and into buddy, and then
it transpired into racing where everyone just called me buddy
and pretty accept In school I was it was always Michael.
But pretty much everyone I know he calls me buddy,
and I've never heard them refer to me as Michael.
Probably a good thing. At the race tracker, is your
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father's name is Michael? Correct? Yeah, so probably a good
way to distinguish between the two. Everybody's saying Michael and
they're they're mad at Michael, and Dad's turned around like
what what do I didn't do anything I'll here, Michael,
and sometimes I wonder if they're even talking to me,
the whole Cofoy junior thing, and then they said that
it's junior, and yeah, you're not a junior. Not that's
(03:40):
not what's your middle name? Powers? Actually? Really? And how
did that come about? So I think, how did it go?
You're so my dad's stepdad, Gary coo Foyd, adopted my
dad and his last name is co Foy obviously, and um,
(04:03):
my dad's real dad's last name is Powers. So when
I was born, they made it my middle name. But
it's technically not two last names. It really is just
my middle name. So my my dad's dad's name is
Mike Powers and my my step grandpa, Gary co Foyd
is his last name is co Foy, so they made
(04:24):
that my dad's last name, and now it's you know,
it's obviously all of ours under my dad. So that's awesome.
Three no way of getting around that one. Yeah, no
different middle names, all of them from what I understand.
So that's super cool man. Yeah, yeah, you always wonder
about some of those things, you know, it's interesting. Where's
it come about? Yeah, your story actually is pretty interesting
(04:44):
with the step dads and the dad's involved. Yeah, and really,
from what I understand, when Gary's ancestors came from Denmark,
that's where co Foid, that's where the name comes from.
His Denmark and it was co fed ko f o
E D And from what I remember, the spelling got changed.
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So they made a co Foid on accident. So that's
why there's very few covoids. I've never been another Covoid.
So when the family came over, someone misspelled it and
then you're stuck with it. Yeah. The people that I guess,
I don't know if it's when you come into the country,
whoever takes your name down. Those Ellis Island people, they
were horrible. They did the same thing. My my wife's
(05:28):
maiden name is Hoolahan and they did the same thing.
They changed the spelling there too whenever they came over
from Ireland. So it's not the first time I've heard
of that. Yeah, it's unique. So you got an interesting
piece on your right wrist there. What's going on with
the right wrist? So, Um July actually on my dad's
(05:49):
birthday too. Um. I was running a pavement late model
in Elko, Minnesota, and long story short, pass the guy
he got in the back of me and didn't get
off me and drove me to the fence into one
and left sided and everything like transmission motor, everything broke.
(06:11):
Broke out of the car and shifted over to the left,
and the shifter crushed the sheet metal next to my
seat and it was close to the wheel in my seat.
So they think my hand bounced off the shifter and
fractured my nibicular bone. So I've had it on for
a little over two weeks now, so hopefully I can
get her off the next couple of few And yeah,
(06:37):
all it did was all it did. But it chipped
the top a bone off the top of my foot,
And I said, there's nothing you can do about it
doesn't hurt right now. Really, I'd say it's probably already.
Um but you know, it didn't need a cast or
anything like that. I just said it would just heal.
Which foot was it? My left one? Well, you don't
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need that one anyhow, so now not not too my
I mean pavement you actually, yeah, you do need quite
a bit. But and the dirt stuff you can kind
of get away with it. But the first time I
got back in a car, it was about a week later,
and I didn't have any pain really in my foot.
It's just certain movements just kind of flares it up.
But you're left foot breaking on the midget, aren't you
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a little bit? Yeah? Handful? Um wing sprint car is
definitely quite a bit. Yeah, So I read where you
said that the wrist actually is too painful to drive
the wing sprint car, but you were able to push
through in the midget. Yeah. I wouldn't say it's painful
for the sprint car. It's just it's a different technique
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compared to the midget, where like you're a lot of
left hand and you like, I flipped my right hand
a lot in the midget, and I at the time
I thought I floated it a lot more. Until I
got in I was like, oh, I actually use my
right hand more than I thought. But where where you know,
where the wing sprint car you use your both hands
pretty equally, i'd say, and especially I was gonna run
the Nationals, and you know, I thought it was a
(08:01):
good idea to take it off. Unfortunately, but you know,
I got some advice from other drivers, and you know,
because I've never been there, and you know, they say
he's right hand a lot, and I could, you know,
barely even I can't use my wrist, and you know
as the wheel, as you turn the wheel, you bend
your wrist to compensate so you don't have to chicken
wing your arm, and so I it was pretty much
(08:23):
down a whole hand. So in the midjat I can
kind of get away with it. Though, So I I
heard that they actually molded the cast to the steering
wheel or the shape of the steering wheel. Yeah, so, um,
I brought my wheel with me, um, because I get
my cast change every two weeks. Actually, since they're lent
me race with it to keep it clean, and since
(08:44):
i'thing probably gonna be abusing it a little bit. But yeah,
they held the wheel. I held the wheel, and they
molded it just around here, just and kept my palm
open enough to where I could get my hand on
it and hook my thumb on it and somewhat keep
it rested on it or give it a little feedback
or you know, use it a little bit if I
need to. So I saw a video that was I
(09:08):
thought hilarious and quite a genius on your part, where
you took a glove and cut up a glove and
some sock. Can you you made a whole new type
of gloves, tell us about it. So uh k one
helped out a lot with that. Um. We went to
their store in North Carolina and said, we need to
mess with a couple of different size of gloves, since
I'm a medium and the cast is a lot thicker,
(09:30):
and it's like so we just cut up some gloves
and and picked which ones worked the best and try
different things. And and because usually the gloves go down
to hear, so we cut it like to hear um
just because it got so tight over you know, over
the back of the thumb and into the wrist where
I couldn't get it on. So we cut it and
(09:51):
kept it kind of open up where it's cut down
the sides, so it's almost gonna like put like a
handle almost. And then with the flap and the rest
of the has exposed, we cut up a sock and
just rolled it over it, and then it sets over
the cup of my soup, so it keeps everything kind
of closed up and it holds the back of the
club down. And we call that contraption. I belin you,
(10:14):
said a guy as well. Yeah, but so and then
I I thought of a better word to use after that,
which they couldn't use. I said, a clock. Well, but
that's a weapon, right, And that's well and with the
with that cast it could be. But that's what I
was thinking. I'm like, man, he's so good that in
his mind in that one moment, he said, well, I
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I said it after that, and like, oh, we can't
use that. Like all, that's fair enough. They've already trademarked
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today once again, welcome back to the Skinny. We have
one of the young guns in the USACH Battle UH
for the National Midget Points. His name is Buddy Covoid.
His actual name is Michael, but everybody refers to him
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as Buddy. And we should also tell you that while
we've had a little bit of time with him already,
and yes he does have a broken wrist and a
hurt foot, he is still leading in the points in
that USACH National Midget Chase. About twenty races are so
left to go inside of the season, so there's a
lot to be accomplished yet. Yeah, that's though quite a
bad I think we'd just past the halfway point. We've
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done about twenty two races. Maybe we probably have about
eighteen to twenty left, so um. Yeah, it's a little
tough obviously with my cast situation, but I've been able
to adapt a little bit and over p a midweek
I kind of figured out some ways to help myself
and change some stuff in the car to make it
easier for me at least and until I can get
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it off. But yeah, it's we had a kind of
one bad night for sure, and that kind of tightened
the back up. The last couple of races we found
some speed and was able to extended a little bit.
So the obvious choices, when is it coming off? I'm sorry,
the obvious question is when is it coming off? I
would say, um, hopefully the first week of September two
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week would be my hope first week. So how old
are you? Nineteen? So you're nineteen. The NASCAR Series was
just in Indianapolis for the big race weekend at the
Indianapolis Motor Speedway, and there's also an event going on
at the speed what it called the BHET thirty nine
on the dirt track there. Now, at the age of nineteen,
you became a coach for some pretty familiar names in
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the racing world. Tell us about that story. Yeah, so, um,
you know, one of the really cool things is for
me being involved with Toyota is is getting to work
with UM. I hang out with some of the you know,
the bigger drivers in NASCAR and HRA and stuff like that.
And we uh had this day called Toyotoday this past
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Wednesday where we had they had about ten drivers across
Toyota from Cup to Exfinity two trucks to Funny Cars
and Top Fuel and then even Formula Drift where they
came in and Keith brought about six midgets and they
all got to take turns driving him. So I got
to coach uh Ty Gibbs, who he was the only
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one that drove my car as far as him and
I are, like, we're the only one that were the
same size. Really, so I only had one guy in
my car, So I got to work with Tyle lot
and hang out with him, and then I got to
talk to Martin true X a lot, and then Daniel
Hemry quite a bit, and um, so it's cool to
hang out with those guys and and watch their progression
actually from when they first got into the last time.
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So um, yeah, it was a pretty cool experience and
just a different role for me that I've never really
got to experience before. So is it hard not to
be a fan in that situation that like, you're you're
the professional in a midget and you're coaching these guys
but at the same time looking up to them ever
so slightly and like to do what they do someday. Yeah, No,
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I would agree. Um, you know, ty was really cool.
But you know, I thought Mark Mark Martin was really
cool to hang out with and and to just like
see his reaction to the midgets and and you know,
like I told ty So that this will probably one
of the coolest experiences you've gotten to do. And then
like he got to do cold us. He's like, well
that's pretty cool. So none of those guys are really
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done dirt. So to go from you know, an Exfinity car,
arcer car, Cup car, whatever to a you know, a
small wheelbase dirt midget, um, you know, I would think
would be quite a bit of a big change for
them and probably a lot of fun. So um, yeah
it was cool. It was also hard not to you know,
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I wanted to drive too, but um, it was just
as cool watching them. And like I said, like watching
their progression was just like huge, Like Martin from being
of the day to the end was like a huge swing,
and he was he looked pretty good and and Troon
Brown was really good and and I it was a
timed like a competition type thing. So I was working
with ty a lot and actually jarred my cru chief
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like we're making changes every time we went out, like
treating as kind of a big deal, like we want
to win this thing, and didn't quite do that, but
it was quite a lot of fun. That's pretty crazy.
I mean, Martin, you kind of you would understand. I
could see him adapting and and putting it together, you know,
a little quicker than saying and Troon Brown. I mean,
there's a guy that goes straight for a living, hops
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inside of the thing, and he was doing a good job. No,
it's entering. His first one was not that great, yeah,
but his last, his last round, he he looked good
and you know, I was on the throttle and entered
the corner good and you know, kept it rotated and
you know, didn't let off and get it tight. So
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he he looked good. And really they all progressed pretty well,
I think. Um. But you know that Ryan Turk from
Formula Drift, like he he was his first one to
his last one is really really cool too. And it's
it's funny watching him because you know the drift guys
they got the handbrake, I would assume, and they're always
moving their hands run so he's trying to enter the
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corner with throttle and then you can hear him push
the brakes as well. Box it down instead of like
you know, getting on it, getting off and getting the
car set. And then you could see him he's like
moving his hands around like he's got a wheel and
he's trying to turn it, which the Formula drift cars
they you know there will probably turns a lot more
than ours, just you know, probably ninety degrees each way.
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And he's thrown it in. Then he's dropping a hand
like he's trying to cut it around. But it is
crazy and he actually he was pretty fast here towards
the end. But it was like watching the insight, like
we're on the infields and watching get in the corner.
Watching him like drop his hand and then like grab
it again is like, you know, the wheels don't turn
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that much, but it's funny, it's cool. It is pretty
cool the different disciplines to see what you know, those
habits that those guys are gonna bring in and then
be on something completely different. And and of course the
midget has such a high level of respect, you know,
from from history, you know, watching the best in the
business come through that and then seeing somebody do what
you're doing and then have those guys get in it
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from their discipline that's I think it's a really cool
moment and the fact that they chose you to come
out there and work with those guys is super cool. Yeah,
I know it is a blast and and like so
that's one of the many cool things that I get
to do, as for as being involved with Hood and
meeting those guys and then getting to do those cool
little events. So BC thirty nine and coming up, you're
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part of that racing with a plethora of of names
in motor sports from Chase Elliott, Connor Daily all the
way down to some of the very very best step
Wise who won the last one in twenty nineteen. Big
event for you coming up looking forward to it, I
would imagine, yeah, definitely. Um, I would say this is
probably one of our biggest midget races that we get
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to run for this year as far as prestige and
what it means and then you know even the money. Um.
And also this will be my first BC thirty night
as well. I haven't been in midget racing that long.
In my first year was last year, so we didn't
get to run it, so um, you know that in
itself will be exciting just to race it a new
place for the first time. And for those who don't know,
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Brian Clawson one of the all time greats in in
in midget sprints and Silver Crown Cars. Was he an
idol of yours growing up? Yeah, I'd say, um, you know,
him coming from California moving to Indiana is kind of
the similar path that I've taken so far. Um, you know,
like like he said, he he was probably one of
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the best all around versatile drivers. I would say his time. Um,
you know, Kyle is another example obviously, and Tyler Cortney
does a really good job at it too. But Brian
was you know, he'd win in whatever he got in,
So yeah, I would say definitely. So how does that
relationship begin with Keith Coon's Motorsports? His dad pick up
the phone and say, hey, Keith, you know, is there
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an opportunity can my son drive with you? Or is
that a Toyota inspired move? That was a Toyter inspired move? Um.
I had been raised in sprint cars for handful of
years in California and always wanted to go out to
the Midwest. And I talked to Carson Massito in two
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thousand eighteen and asked if there was anyone I could
get ahold of to get out there to Ohio at
the time, and he gave me a couple of names,
and one of them was Mike Linder, who run who
at the time ran ed New Meister's program. And I
called him and and did a couple of races and
tales and eighteen they hired me full time in two
thousand nineteen, so I drove sprint cars in the Midwest
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full time. And then about um August I think it was,
I got a text on Twitter from Jack Irving, who
manages the Toyota Driver Development program, and um, and he
just kind of said, hey, like you know, it's Jack Irving,
and you know, explained what he did and he said
call me Monday. Was like, yeah, that's a good guy
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to get a text message. Yeah, And UM, you know,
in a way, I've never really heard of that happening either,
And that's like nothing. I don't come from money to
where I like I could just pick up the phone
like I'm in it just based off of them hiring
me otherwise. You know, at the time, I had no
intentions of getting in imaget. I was in the process
of looking for another ride to go out probably more
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of a national level and sprint cars, Like I had
no idea I'd be running midgets and be with Toyota
and so then, yeah, I did a handful of races
at the end of two thousand nineteen while I was
when the first year I moved to Ohio and ran
sprint cars, and I actually won my first race for
Keith in the midget, and then I ran second and
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third my next two races, and then I did a
couple of U Sack races out West and ran six
at the Turkey Night So it was a pretty pretty
good for as few races I guess, I would say,
And um yeah at the time, I had really never
ran an I midget before that, so I had no
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idea quite what I was doing yet. And then you know,
my next race was Chili Bowl and ran third of
my pre lum and then locked in the show and
went to the seventh and was pretty good then. And uh,
you know all last year ran uh you Sack full
time and power I when Usak wasn't racing, and it's
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the same scood to this year, so um yeah, I
know it's it's been a blast friend for Kakim and
getting to represent Mobile one in their house car and
getting to deal with Toyota two has been pretty cool.
We wish you the best of luck, my friend. Obviously
you're a tough guy. You don't keep scrapping with a
broken wrist if you're not best of luck chasing this
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championship as well. You're sitting in a great position and
uh certainly proven to be a worthy candidate of what
Jack or I mean. Thanks you're capable of. Thank you
for me only show. It's been a lot of fun
and hopefully be talking to you guys pretty seon hopefays
the champions Keep your eyes on him, ladies and gentlemen.
He's a badass. Civil Lives is making his way to
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talent as well. Of course, we just finished up with
Buddy co Foyd. I'd like to welcome back to the show, Rico.
You've been super busy, my friend. Great to have you
back at the desk. Great to be back. I thought
Michael was trying to take one job that apparently I'm
back on so well. I saw you carry him out
by the nap of his neck. I think you're safe
for a little bit. So that's uh good stuff. And
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joining us now is one of those young guns. Matter
of fact, filled in for Buddy co Foyd just a
week or so ago. Let's welcome him to the desk here.
Zeb Wise, come on in, Bud. Great to have you
with us. Zep. By the way, doing great in the
All Star fifth in the Points, does have a win
All Star Rookie of the Year, finished third in the Points,
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had a win there as well, with three top five's
and probably your biggest win. Correct me if I'm wrong.
The two thousand nineteen BC thirty nine pretty special moment.
Manh Yeah, that was a special day for for me
and everyone at Costomos Racing that obviously that race meant
a lot to them for obvious reasons, and um, that
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was a very special day. We knew leading into that
we were in a pretty good spot after Wednesday, went
out the heats, and um, I just remember sitting down
and just like, man, how do I not screw this up?
You know, I'm in a good spot. Let's make the
most of it. And started fifth in the feature, and
everything just kind of fed right in line, got got
to the lead a little early. I was a little
worried honestly that I got to lead that early and
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was a little scared, um that we were going to
be too good too early. But everything played in our
favor and uh somehow didn't wreck with Kyle and end
up winning. Yeah, a great battle with Kyle. To a
matter of as I recall, I think Kyle might have
fed you a right rear that ended up cutting his
own right rear and boom he was gone. Uh. Yeah,
I just remember, like I the two or three laps
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before that where there's a caution and then uh, like
the two or three laps before that, caution. Me and
Kyle were just getting started on a battle and then
caution came out and we had that restart, and I
you know, anytime you have Kyle breathing on your neck,
you're nervous. And I remember going down in the turn
one and I didn't see him and I thought I
was safe. And then I went into turn three and
here he came, and then uh, it was a long slider, uh,
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and I was I did everything I could to stay
off of my At first, I was like going to
check up to let him go by, and then I
was like, oh, it's too late. I got to try
to go around it. And then um, yeah, he clipped
me in the left fear And honestly, I have no
idea how my car didn't break, because I was four
wheels up on the wall and I think it would
have been in my drag link and the car was
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a handful from that at that point on. But uh,
hung on. And it's worth mentioning this was a couple
of years ago. He's eighteen now, so sixteen years old
battling with arguably I think any I think anybody would
call him the best in the business as it stands
here today, Kyle Larson. Yeah, and it's funny, like we
look at that race, but I think one that stands
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out to me is Action Track and that was that
year as well. Me and Kyle threw bombs at each
other like the last four or five laps, and it
was probably some of the most fun I've ever had
in a midget. Um. But yeah, me and Kyle seem
to every time we get around each other. Not so
much in the sprint car because he pretty much seems
to just drive away whenever you get around him, but um,
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in the midget stuff, we seemed a battle pretty well.
Is that are those moments they have to be confidence builders?
But do you in the moment, do you take a
second or a portion of a second and say to yourself, Man,
I'm good enough to race with somebody at this level,
Like I've got this man, I'm gonna battle with this guy.
I'm not gonna just give it to him because it's
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Kyle Larson. Yeah. I feel like you see that a
lot to like those when guys getting battles with him
or Bell or guys like that that caliber, they kind
of they don't really back down, but they don't race
them as hard as they would anyone else. And I've
always been confused on that, because, if anything, you should
race them harder than anyone else. And that's kind of
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just how I've always treated racing Kyle and Christopher. You
just can't can't let them go by, because they're good
enough to get by you if they can. So um,
I just always always race them as hard as I
would anyone else. Amazing stuff. And you know, at the
age of sixteen, I mean so I you know, we
had Kyle on um. I guess it was Chili Bowl
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a year. That's the year he had flipped violently down
in Australia and New Zealand. Yeah, yeah, I had blood
blood there that yeh, Yeah, I was in New Zealand
the same time he did that. That was crazy about it. Yeah,
I just remember I was sitting in staging, UM and
I ready to rull on the track at Western Springs,
and I looked to my left and I see this
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car flying through the air and I'm like, oh, that
was big, you know, And I'm about to go on
the track. So my crew guy comes down and he's like, hey,
just be careful off of two. That cushion is pretty
big and I'm like, who was that? That just flipped
and there like that was Kyle And I'm like no,
like who really who was it? And they're like that's
Larson and I'm like, oh, boy, like because you never
expect Kyle to wreck, right, and it was pretty wild. No,
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that was spectacular, and then your might immediately you're like, well,
if Kyle can wreck, yeah, I know, I'm like, man
of Kyle's reckon, what am I gonna do? So yeah,
that was a crazy night. And then you ended up
having to sit out a few nights, which gave us
a chance to run up front. So uh yeah, just
glad he was okay after that. The I think the
eye was the least of his worries. It's funny on
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the side here the psyche. If a driver is oh,
if it's some backmarker, he just made a mistake. But
as soon as you hear it's Kyle, it's like, oh ship,
yeah that's real. Yeah. It's kind of like Cleipper talking
about talking about Clay, you know when they went out
there and media day and immediately trash the back of
you don't have the flat footed around there, boom out
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of the park. Yeah exactly. So so you're splitting your
time between midget's, wing sprints, anything else you're doing. Oh, um,
every now and then I'll jump in a micro, but
it's pretty far and few between. I don't really run
them that much anymore. UM I like to go. I
race obviously sprint cars full time on the All Star Tour,
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and then I just jump in midgets whenever I can. Uh,
we run we have. We actually took three Mattwood Midget
Racing uh matt Wood Racing midgets home from Chili Bowl
this year, and Storm and our barn right beside the
sprint cars, and UM just kind of run them. This
This will be my first time running get outdoors, but UM,
I plan on running some of Midget Week, and the
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way the All Star schedule kind of panned out, we
didn't get to but um, so, yeah, this would be
my first time outdoors and none of the matt Wood
guys are here, so it's me and my dad and
my brother in law and UH see what we can do.
My dad's been working on midgets for the last couple
of years, so I think we'll be just fine. That's awesome. Yeah,
speaking of midgets, have you ever considered running the uh
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the Fort Wayne race. Uh so I have a lot
of history at that race. To be honest with you,
I ran uh ran Quarterman just there for years and
I apologize I should say, in the midget race. Yeah no, yeah,
I really do want to run the midget race there. Um.
I've always grown up obviously going there running Quarterman just.
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I always went there and watch midgets and watch Tony
dominate there. And um my dad actually is like co
owner and the midget the races that Derek bishak Um
and he wanted a couple of years back. So yeah,
it's uh sounds like you've talking to the car owner, right.
I need to get in there. Huh. Yeah, I would
love to. It's a great event. I'm telling you. It's
a lot like you know, it reminds me of you know,
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the speed Rome, like when you know everybody was like
why are you racing the speed Rum? You know Brian
Claws and ran the speed Drum a lot in the beginning,
and uh And I'm telling you, if you know how
to get around that place, just like at Fort Wayne,
if you know how to get around that place and
and stay off as somebody you know, you you've you've
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got talented and it tracks anything bigger enough, you know,
so it'd be it'd be great to see you there.
I mean Larry bow is a good friend of ours
as well, and you know that puts the show on
and so we uh will be there. So you get
Tony to put another car together, I'll be there. I'll
be seeing him later. Well maybe we'll come out of
your pet and have a word with him about it. So,
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by the way, we need to congratulate you and let
the fans that might not know who you are. I
know some of your accomplishments as well. You mentioned the
chili bowl. I know you've been there a couple of
times in the midget um. I don't know if you
haven't made the yet, right, No, I have the worst
luck in that building. Yeah, I saw you pass a
lot of cars. Yeah, I'm good as you can do
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that when you start in the maybe eat to the
d to the sea. I mean, you passed a lot
of cars. But man, you've been really good there at
the shootout four Class four amins in two separate years.
I mean that's quite an accomplishment. And you do own
a driller. You won one of those a mains at
the shootout. Yeah, the shootout has been Honestly, I think
I use all my luck out at the shootout instead
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of at the Chili Bowl. But um, yeah, the shootouts
been so kind to me. I think I'm I think
I'm thirteen from fourteen on a main starts. Um yeah,
that's that. Race has always been so good to me
and I don't really know why. Um, but yeah, I
just always been a race I really enjoyed. Um. Hopefully
I don't know that I'll be there this year because
hopefully I can go back to New Zealand Race and
Midge stuff out there, but uh yeah, hopefully. Yeah. I
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need Chili a good for at least one year. Him. Hey,
we're gonna take a quick break here. We'll be right
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Once again, welcome back to the Skinny. Rico Elmore has
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joined us here on the back half of this show.
It was great to have Buddy co Foid on to
kick things off here with Michael Young the track dude.
Now we have zeb Wise sitting in his seat, who's
actually filled in for Buddy as uh as you know
if you watch the beginning of the show, Buddy broke
his wrist and uh and hurt his foot and in
lieu of that you got a chance to hop inside
of the sprint car and fill in for him a
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little bit. We should also say that, um, he's the
youngest midget winner in the history of U Sex, taking
that honor away from Brian Clawson of all people. So
it's it's funny when you see some of the ties
that have come together for you when your career already
with the class and Marshall team. Yeah, so that was
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in twenty I think it was team when I took
that record away. Um, Tim we were standing victory Lane
and I I'll never forget when they came on and said, uh,
zeb wise, now the youngest national winner in history. Um,
and we kinda me and Tim look at each other
and we're like, oh, that's pretty cool. Who was the
last guy that had that? And he didn't and and
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we had to ask. I think it was Spridge or
Richie Murray or someone with the USAC and they said
it was Brian and uh, Tim goes, there's not many
people that I would want to break that record, but
you're definitely up there on the list. And ironically, so
now fast forward one and now that record is broken
again by another class and Marshall driver. Um so yeah,
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Corey Day just broke my record just a month ago.
I think it was so uh yeah, it's crazy. I
mean it shows what Tim can do with a young
driver and his his eye for young drivers as well
to be able to pick those guys too. They're just
getting younger. It seems like I remember, like when I
raised midgets, I was the young guy and I was
fifteen and sixteen years old, and now that's pretty common
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in midgets. So yeah, it's definitely taking a transition old
guy now, I know. And it's and you know, I
was thinking when you were saying that. I mean, Brian
was kind of the the exception back in the day,
you know what I mean with with how young he was,
because you had, you know, people like Tracy Hines, Levi
Jones and and so on and so on that we're
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in the you know, in the mix at that point.
And uh, you know too, I am truly amazed by,
um the age of these drivers. Now, okay, you included,
I mean you're I watched you and you know, I
of course, you know, everybody's skeptical when you get in
something new, right, I was like, and how's he going
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to do in the wing sprint, you know, in this
in this big four ten and and with these animals,
because there are a lot of animals that are in
the All Stars and uh, you know, and so it
was great to watch you transition over there. Uh again,
amazing to watch Sunshine do the same thing, uh with
with their program. So uh it's really cool to see that.
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And you've ran some shows with the Outlaws too. I
think what shows have you ran with them? In the
wing car? Um? Well, I just recently ran the nationals
um and then obviously King's Royal pretty much the big
shows and then just filling stuff. I ran Hobst and
what else? Did I run Port Royal a couple of times?
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And yeah, just kind of little little filling stuff. But yeah,
I runed them right now, little filling stuff, little fling.
So let's let's let's krate on that Knoxville Nationals, that
little stuff that pre Limnite qualified on the pole ol
and was running fourth when unfortunately diff broke on the car.
So yeah, just filling it. It's a little bit of stuff,
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you know out here and there you know, h hit
a micro show Knoxville Nationally well on the pole and
pre limb Night on Knoxville. Dude, what was that like? Yeah?
That was crazy. Um. Obviously I wasn't even I wasn't
even gonna be there. I wasn't even gonna be there
to watch um. And I got the call Sunday night
to go run, go fill in for buddy UM. And
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we you know, I went into that race with zero expectations,
and I think they were the same way because before
that I only had probably fifty laps there in four
and uh, we go there and honestly didn't didn't qualify
that great qualified twenty twod We knew I was gonna
start us fourth in the heat, and then I told myself,
I can just get the second here. That'll probably put
us in a you know, definitely lock us into the feature,
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get us in a decent spot, and uh, I'll never forget.
I went forth a second heat race and I'm sitting
sitting on the cooler, and I get a text from
Brian Walker, the PR guy for the Outlaws, and he says, dude,
You're not gonna believe this, and uh, I feel like
it was like I've never felt nerves come to me
that quick because I knew exactly what he was gonna say,
and uh yeah. I ended up being on the pole
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that race, and um what the caliber guys were behind
me and my inexperience. I knew that I was gonna be,
you know, in trouble, that I was gonna be under
attack for sure, but I knew if I could just
maintain and getting a good spot, that we would be
just fine. And that's what I was doing. I had
settled in the fourth um and just kind of was
gonna ride and I knew, uh, Donnie hadn't passed me out,
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so he was gonna be there. But as long as
I'm in front of Donnie. It's a good night. Yeah,
he's all right, and I was I was just cruising
around and fourth and uh yeah we had a part break.
But um, that was a blast of a week. I
had so much fun. And then I ended up filling
in for Paul too, so I filled in for two
drivers on the same team the same week, double duty.
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That's awesome. Um, talk to me real quickly before we
run out of time here. You've got a big week
coming up here a matter of fact, you'll be on
the track tonight and then of course again tomorrow night
as once again the BC thirty nine has come back around. Yeah,
we race obviously tonight, will do I think practice heats
and then the stoops are suit if I end up
being in that, and then uh we we race tomorrow,
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which is I think qualifiers and lower mains and then
obviously a main um and then Friday we're back on
the All Star Tour at in Michigan, and then uh
we got to I think Waynesfield, Ohio on Saturday. So
four days straight here will be busy guy, great stuff
and the only driver to win a pursuit race and
the actual a main at the BC thirty nine and
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we were chatting about that pursuit race. It's kind of fun. Uh,
it's a different format to put on a show for
the fans here tonight. Oh yeah, it is a very
different format. Um. Obviously you're laps with five lap segments
and then they take you know, if you go backwards
your you get pushed to the infield. So um, it's
definitely different, and I think it creates a little Uh,
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it definitely gets hectic at the beginning for sure because
you cannot go backwards. Um. In the year I wanted,
I think, you know, obviously you're better off the starting
back because you can only go forward. Um. And I
started seventeenth and ended up winning it. So um, yeah,
it's a different format. Mean it really interested to see
how the track plays out tonight because they haven't been
on it obviously in two years. So um yeah, interested
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to see what the track does. That's kind of my
reasoning for picking a later heat so that way maybe
the tracks a little wider and we can see what happens.
But yeah, hopefully he's have a good heat race tonight
and getting a good spot. So Rico, I'm not real
sure what he was doing out there at two am,
but apparently he's already viewed the track somewhere around two
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am this morning. Two am. Yeah, that sounds like us
being out of the track that we aren't usually viewing
that tracks, or we could have been standing on it
and not seeing it at two am. But I went around,
I went around and uh when we were there for
the for the brickyard, and uh, it's it's I mean
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it's nice. They've they've got it. They've got it groom
pretty well. Of course, it was just you know, wide open. Um.
I was amazed with that that there's still a little
little extra agg in it, you know. And uh, but
that that place, you know, every year it seems like
that track this keeps getting better and better and uh
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definitely will be interesting. That's a great, great strategy to
see if the track and widen out, get a little
more date on it, and try to understand what the
cars are doing out there. So yeah, they've proved that. Um,
you know, when they get the track right, they can
it produces a great racing. It's perfect midget track, couldn't
be any better size, So excited to be on it.
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We certainly wish you the best of luck. We appreciate
you taking the time to come in here. And uh
and phillis in a little bit of the action behind
the man of zeb Wise and your young career. Boy,
you've you've just done a fabulous job to get things going. Aspirations.
Do you have any do you have a goal? Would
it be anycar? Would be Nascar? You at World Outlaws?
What's the final step? Uh? The outlet Tour? Um, that's
(42:09):
just kinda ever since I was five years old. Um. Actually, Rico,
there was a guy that was interviewing all the kids
in Quartermage. It's at the Rumble one year, and he
took us all, took us all at the room and
was interviewing all is you know, what do you want
to do when you get older? What do you want
to do? And every kid said, I want to go
to NASCAR. I want to go to NASCAR, and I
was I was the only one that said anything different.
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I said I want to go to the outlet Tour.
And he thought that was so crazy. I was only
six or seven years old and I wanted to go
to the outlet Tour and I've stuck to it, and uh,
I think I'm on the right track. So where's all
those other kids? Probably not in Nascar. Probably not in Nascar.
That's about it. Not even close. He's got the goals.
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So that's awesome. Man. We uh, we're happy for you.
It's a huge accomplish but like you've done so Yeah,
thank you guys for having me on. Man on that
note will wrap things up. You now know the Skinny,
or at least part of it. On the Young Gun,
zeb Wise, hope you enjoyed the show. We'll see you
next time here on the Skinny. Buddy Coboy finished tenth
in the A Main at the BC thirty nine and
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zeb Wise finished fourteen. Thanks for being with us here
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