January 27, 2022 • 46 mins
This week the guys sit down with Rico Abreu, fresh off his third place finish at this years Chili Bowl. Abreu is the 2014 USAC Midget Series Champion and won back to back Chili Bowls in 2015 and 2016. He talks about his career, his future and the wait list at the families winery. Join us now for The Skinny.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Skinny with Rico and Kenna is a production of
I Heart Radio. I'm Rico, Abrew and you're watching the
Skinny from the fat Heads I Wear Studios in Speedway, Indiana.
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Kent stad Rico, I almost said, Abrew, Rico Elmore said alongside.
I was waiting. I was waiting on him when he said.
I wanted him to say, I'm Rico and this is
the Skinny. I'm like, I'm Rico, I'm talking about it. Well,
I I my initial opened that that Michael screwed up.
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By the way, our engineer here today, thanks. I was
gonna say, if you could see him standing here side
by side, you'd clearly understand that we have the Rico
twins here with us. But he's seven minutes older than me,
so it's good. Rico a Row has joined us here
from California, fresh off of his run at the Chili Bowl.
Another stellar effort there ended up inside of the top three.
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Always always a tough player, another win on his pre
limb night. Um. Yeah, pretty impressive run there, my friend.
And another solid Chili Bowl, Yes, sir, it was. It
was a good one. Getting five PM years in a row.
You know, putting ourselves in contention every year is all
you can ask for at the Chili Bowl. Just being
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right there at the end. So we got going pretty
good at the end of the race. It was exciting
for me to, um, you know, just be right there
knocking on the door. I know. Christopher and Tanner got
going early, um, you know, and then it just took
some time to get to them. Once we were there,
we shoved Bell the nose and and got him going.
So it's it was a lot of fun. I just
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another great year the Chili Bowl. Um, it's just one
of my favorite races to be able to attend. Talk
to me about you make in that prelimb five consecutive
and I think is at seven or eight overall, but
five consecutive incredible effort there. I thought it was seven
totals that sound right, Yeah, so it's seven. It's seven
out of eight years. So I had a two thousand seventeen,
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had a down year. But Keith Coon's he builds the
best race cars and when it comes to uh, you know,
you stack power. I'm as a racing um you know,
and his his cars they perform when they get inside
um that building. So I'm excited to uh to be
able to enjoy all of those wins with him and
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his organization. They've put together a stout team this year,
bringing fifteen cars, locking five of them into the A
main and four of them were Culinary Night main event winners. Yeah,
the first four nights. Yeah, it's all Keith Coon's all
Keith Coon's uh incredible effort there and you known as
Mr Wednesday Night. But boy, you were put to the test.
And Chase Randall's running down there on that on that
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catfish line, that gutta rat line, if you will, and
he closed the gap, took the lead and then slid
you bang the berm and that was the end of
his run. But man, were I was thinking, stay at
the bottom, dude, it's working. What are you doing, like,
just stay down there? You're driving away from him. But
once once that happened, man, you set sail. Yeah he uh,
you know, Chase put a little pressure on us, uh
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made us really get up and get going. There at
the end. Then Kevin Thomas Jr. Put some pressure on
us the last few laps. I was able to ride
the high line and then moved down um on the
white flag lap and three and four and block Kevin's run.
So it was, you know, just another fantastic night where
you put a solid um race together. You know, we
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we got a heat race win and qualifier. Wind Um
started third in the feature on the prelium night and
about halfway we're leading. So um. You know those guys
they're gonna put pressure on you. Um. You know, especially
when you're leading, it makes it really difficult to know
where to run um. You know, and you can judge
that off lap traffic. And that Wednesday we didn't really
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have the chance to get into lap traffic. Um. You know,
maybe once or twice in the race, but nothing too
for me to really really be able to judge the pace. UM.
So I just kind of set my pace on the
top and once I've seen somebody on the bottom, I
moved down. Yeah, I mean it it was. There was
some amazing race racing this year. And uh, you know,
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as as we were talking earlier, been there many years,
watch many people uh beat that track and been beat
up by that track and uh. And it takes one
small mistake. It's not it's not like it's some catastrophic
you fence it, you hit the wall, any of the above.
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I mean it's a bobble and uh. For the consecutive
wins that that Ricos had and uh and again, like
you said, Keith Coons is operation Um. You know it's uh.
And by the way, I don't want to go without
saying this Dason personally being there that's pretty special. Yeah. Yeah,
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how how's he? Uh? How I didn't get to talk
to him, he was over there and I didn't want
to bother him. But doing doing a lot better. Yeah,
he's in great spirits, man, and he's working hard just
to get him back to UM. I noticed, you know,
he mentioned a little bit of struggle with the left
side of the body. UM. But there's no there's no
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boundaries to to what the kid is capable of doing. UM.
There's nobody holding him back. He's pushing himself and that's
what you want to see. UM. And and he's are
in good hands, you know, with the supportive UM. You know,
I think he's at this final center in Atlanta Georgia. Um,
you know, what an amazing group to be a part of.
And um, you know, his mother is definitely Mom of
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the year, um for taking care of him through all
this and uh, you know that's your baby boy, so
you're gonna do whatever you can for him. And he
he was you know, it was just so emotionally great
to see him, um out and about see his face,
see him smile, and even though he had a mask
on the whole time, you could see um, you know
those cheeks right were rosen risen up. You know, the
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whole uh, Friday and Saturday time he was there, so um,
it was great to see Dason. He's he's a fighter,
he's got a great attitude towards the direction he's going
with everything, and he's going to be in a race
car not before long. It's easy to lose sight of
of what your goal is when you get in the
middle of the fight, like he's in the middle of
the fight right now. And I promise you when he
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got out there and got around those racers and got
around all of you guys again, man, it had to
be a huge emotional support for him. Yeah. I mean
that's everything is is those the fans, his family, the racers,
that's that's what's driving him to keep this fight alive.
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And um, you know, it's just really it was really
awesome to see it. Um. You know, I got a
little emotional when he walked out, um in the grandstands
in three and four and you see the support from
the fans. And it's not just the racers that are
that are following his path here with you know, with
a road to recovery. So um, it's the race fans,
it's his family, and it's in the racers, you guys.
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You know, everybody's behind this kid, and that's what's gonna
bring him to back to the top. It was pretty
unbelievable that the fans when he got announced, and I
mean it was I was. I I didn't I hadn't
seen him there yet. I didn't wander far from the cooler,
but anyhow, I hadn't seen him yet, and uh, he
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was Yeah, it was. It was awesome man. And Kaylee,
Bryce and I brought her up earlier on the show.
We were just talking about, uh teammate of yours. Um,
she's she's got some she's got some definite drive, some
spunk man and and she uh, she wasn't gonna be
denied to be to make history that night. She Uh,
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she did an amazing job tent to first and A B.
Maine is. It's pretty difficult when it's um, you know,
you're at the Chili Bowl. Those are um, you know
obviously that B. Maine is those guys that that all
the third place finishers from the prelum nights. Um, so
they're you know, a pretty stout field there. So it's uh,
you know, third, fourth, fifth, I think all the way
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through seventh. So um, you know, you're not racing against uh,
you know, anybody that doesn't know what they're doing. So
she did an amazing job. First female to make the
A Maine at the Chili Bowl history. Um you know,
it's just there was a lot going on at the
Chili Bowl. So it's cool to be a part of
all that. Yeah, And she had kind of forecasted that, Um,
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I think she was. She had qualified on the pole
out of Ventura for Turkey Night Grand Prix, and if
I'm not mistaken, I think an all female front row
first time in history there as well, So some talented,
some talented ladies coming through the field. I thought a
really cool moment was right before driver introductions. I don't
know if you caught this or not, Rico, but Team
AS was standing there and wanted to get a selfie
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with her, and I was like, that's Team AS. Team
has wanted to get a selfie with Kaylie. That's pretty
damn cool. Man, that's cool. Yeah, that's great. Team as
a wild guy. He's just a little while, just a
little out there, hey man, talk me through through that
race on your prelum night you were you were talking
about it before. You actually struggled a little bit in
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the in the beginning, trying to get that thing sorted.
You went up to the top and boy, running the
top all week long. I mean, it seemed like there
was some speed there, but boy, as Rico Elmore here
said in the studio, you needed to be spot on.
You can miss it by a couple of inches, man,
and find yourself on your lid. But you you were
finally able, I don't know what it was, maybe midway
point through, uh, finally figured that top shelf out and
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you were just grazing that ledge and driving off of it.
It looked beautiful. Once the pace slowed down, my car
got really good. And the beginning of the race there
was quite a bit of grip. It was just a
little bit more difficult to take off, so I moved up.
I ran the bottom of the first few laps, moved up.
Um you know that a little cushion got to start
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getting built, and it really took off about halfway through.
So over the years, I've been so committed to run
in the bottom of the Chili Bowl. This year I
showed up saying, I'm gonna run wherever my car wants
to take me. If I feel like going to the top,
I'm gonna try to make this work. So, um, you know,
about halfway through the race on Wednesday night, I was
able to really take off and get some big speed
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down the back straight away and past McDougal and uh
Kopie Copeland in three and four and then um, you know,
got to racing with Chase Randall and Kevin Thomas Jr.
Made a race winning move, um you know on the
last lap and three and four on the bottom. So
the track kind of um started on the bottom. Halfway
through we were all ripping the top. Um. And then
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the last in or so lapse, it was starting to
work its way back to the bottom, just because the
top gets so treacherous once it gets up by the wall,
the cushion gets so defined to run, it's really difficult
to not make mistakes. And you see those guys venture
back to the bottom and one little hiccup, um you know,
and they'll they'll get right to you, uh and pressure
you and and make you, um have to drive a
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little bit harder, which um you know, raises that bar
for that mistake factor. So um you know. Luckily, I
was just trying to be smooth, um and stay calm
as as as well as I could. Um, you know,
they're at the end being pressured. I just didn't want
to make mistakes, so I slowed my pace down a
little bit loud Kevin to get to my inside and
luckily I got down at the right time on the
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last lap. And that's what want is the race. Rico Abrew,
one of our house drivers here at bat Heads. I
wear on the show with us here today and now
standing young gentlemen and qualified driver. For sure, we're gonna
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the skinny. We have an amazing race car driver on
the show with us here today. And Rico abrew the
two thousand fourteen Youth second National Midget champ in Indiana
Midget Week champ, twenty five wins that year, two thousand
thirteen National Midget Rookie of the Year. Of course, two
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times Chili Bowl winner as well, longtime driver for Keith Cones.
And currently you really run a mixed bag of where
you want to go racing. Man. It might be World
of Outlaws, it might be All Stars, it might be Usak.
Who knows where you might see Rico Abrew. It's gotta
be a lot of fun for you to just pick
and choose where you want to go play it is.
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I enjoy it, um. I just like to go race
for money in the big races. So you know, as
long as as long as these guys keep paying good money,
I'll keep showing up at their races. True Outlaw, Yeah,
True Outlaw. How how the series started? Right, That's exactly.
I didn't want to follow all the rules and the guidelines,
so they started that thing. Was a year bore you, ma'am.
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Seventeen top three is I was kind of looking down
through there for your results. Are the seventeen top threes.
Ten of those were second places, three of them wins.
But man Bride'smaid, Bride'smaid, bride'smaid. You had to be sick
and tired of finishing seconds, like I gotta win one
of these things. Yeah, we really got going there at
the end of the year. Um. You know, just that's
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just how it goes sometimes, Ken and it's it's um,
you know, it can be difficult to to win these races. Um.
You know, especially when you're focusing on on really key events.
Um you know where the best competition is in the country.
It's uh, it just makes it difficult to win, you know,
but we were were consistent, and that's all you can
ask for putting yourself in contention. UM. That's really what
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I focused on this year, is just being right there
at the end of these races and um, you know
there's just little minor changes probably could have been the
difference of us winning or losing races. Um. You know
the ones that that got me quite frustrated, where where
we started off the front row and run third or fourth. Um,
you know, right at the end we just kind of
missed it on fuel load or um when the fuel
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had burned off, we got it got really difficult to
just stick those retires of our sprint cars. So UM,
but we're starting two off great with a prelim win
and a top three, So two top three finishes in
two races, which you can't ask for better than that.
So you've got Rick Warner this year. Tell us about it.
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I'm excited to get the opportunity to race for race
with Rick. Um. I feel like he's one of the
best grew chiefs in the country and I'm able to, uh,
you know, just just take that next step of you know,
my success in my career, and I want to do
whatever it takes to win the Knoxel Nationals and King's
Roles and the races that pay the most money. He uh,
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he definitely is unbelievable. Um. Of course, I've watched him
for years, but really got to watch him when you
know Tony when he was working with Tony on Tony's car,
the fourteen car, and I mean he um, I'm not
sure if there's many that go at it exactly the
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way he goes at it, but it's, uh, it's pretty
cool to watch. So I'm happy for you. I'm happy
for him and uh I it's it's gonna be good
for everybody. And I just as I told him when
I saw him at the chili bowl. I told him,
I said, one, you sound like hell and uh, I said,
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I said to you, better make sure you take care
of yourself. And then of course I got to see
his wife, Denell, which can be meaner than a snake
at times if you provoke her. So which is my favorite.
So you know that great family and I and and
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uh Rickey's son. He was with you for a minute,
right is that? Yeah, Drew and I raced together for
two years. We were together for two years, so you
and I, Um, you know, I consider him one of
my best friends to now Stevie, rick you know, they've
they've been um like family to me for almost ten
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years now. When I first started hanging around in the
sprint car world, Um, you know know and Ricky and
then Drew being a mechanic out here in California, I
get to see him, be around him. He's really close.
Um lives close to me. So, uh you know, they
just they're just die hard race fans. Family, you know,
come from a race background. All they know, all they
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want to do is race. Um and um you know
rick Is he's he's one of the best, um you
know where he where he really comes in as a
as a packaged mechanic crew chief. Is his experience and
his critical thinking at the race track, those final decisions
that get made right before your car gets pushed out,
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you know. And and and Rick is really good about
driving confidence into that race car driver, you know, and
making them feel comfortable, um, you know, and confident when
they get out there on the racetrack that they are
going to be fast no matter what the circumstances is.
That race car is going to run right around that
corner and it's going to be stuck no matter where
you run it. Yeah, and he is, he is. He's
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a great coach and and I mean just a lot
Ricos talking about, but an unbelievable coach. And uh, the
knowledge that he has from the people that he learned
it from is probably second to none. I mean the
Gary Stantons that that you know, Tanner was talking about earlier,
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you know, Darryl Socier. Uh you know of course Ronnie Um, um,
why I forget Ronnie's name, the injury, the builder um
favor Yeah Shavers you know, and yeah I'm buying from
you can't. What what makes it so um interesting about
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the sport of sprint car racing is you can't buy
experience and you can't buy that knowledge. Um. Yeah, you
can go and find, um, you know, a young get
a young mechanic and want to develop them to be
a crew chief. Um you know. But where where people
learn is is experiences and different circumstances and being out
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there on the road grinding, um you know, and and
and right taken down notes and understanding why things do
what on race cars. Um you know. So um you know,
as a as a mechanic or a crew chief coming
up through the ranks, it's important that you surround yourself
by the best people possible and you learn everything you
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can from that person. Yeah, that chemistry, everybody talks about it.
You win a championship whenever there's team chemistry, and it's
without it, you're not gonna win a championship. But I
love what you guys are saying about him, and I
don't know him at all, but clearly a guy with
a ton of experience that you talked about out on
the road grinding for many many years. So what it
tells me is he's he sees a lot of stuff
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and those seasoned eyes can correlate with a driver and
what that driver is saying or as you mentioned before,
a brew. Uh. You know, he takes a look at
that track just before you guys are gonna roll off,
and he's not guessing at what that tracks are gonna do.
He's got a pretty damn good idea what that track
is gonna do and how it's gonna develop, you know,
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over the course of the laughs of that main so
he can make those final adjustments, air pressures, whatever it
may be, to make sure your cars as good as
it is in the end. And then he installs that
confidence in you. Like you said, I mean that's a
that's a lethal combination. Yeah, absolutely, Um, you know, it's
you show up to the racetrack with a plan. So
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the track does this, We're gonna go this direction, the
track does that, We're going to go that direction. You
already know, your decisions already made before it even happens.
So it's that's what that's where you beat these guys, um,
you know. And then the chemistry between the creuch even
the driver and the relationship and um, you know he
needs he knows what I need and I know what
he needs to to keep it selling. Um, And that's
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where that's where you see these guys win these major races,
and and that's the position I need to be in
to to accomplish those goals. In my career is is
winning the Knoxia Nationals, the King's Roles, winning another Chili Bowl.
I need to keep putting myself in good positions so
I get those races one again, I I get star
struck myself. I mean, I feel the pressure. I've said
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this a couple of times on the show. Um, I mean,
short of my son winn in a championship, you know,
a couple of moments with my son, uh safely inside
of the top three. Was when I was standing at
the line last year at the five hundred on pole day,
part of part of the Ganassi team. Clearly don't need
a spot or whenever you're qualifying for a pole, but
I was standing down there on the starting grid. Uh,
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second to last goes out and lays down the quickest time.
So that was the time we had to beat. And
the crowd went crazy, right, I mean everybody yelling, screaming, cheering,
and I'm standing there, I mean goose bumps now thinking
about it, But I'm standing there thinking, I don't know
if we're gonna beat that guy there, So I have
a little bit of doubt in my brain. You know,
I'm not saying a word, so I'm thinking, wow, man,
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this uh and the pressure, I mean, my god, dude,
I mean, there's just no explaining the amount of pressure
that is that you feel standing down there, everybody watching you.
There's one car left to roll out, and it's Scott Dixon, right,
And I remember one of the crew members turning around,
never flinched, never blinked an eye, and he said, if
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they think that car is fast, wait till they see
this one. And I was like, oh my god, you know,
I mean, never flinched, like we're just gonna kick his ass.
And that's what's gonna happen and for everyone. And that's
what happened. See what I did there, Michael, It was
pretty cool. Did you see who wont or get second?
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Heard a heard it was second and heard it was
hauling ass? Yeah. But oh, that's right because because on
the previous day he went out when it was really
hot and he said there's a lot left inside of
his car, so we knew he had a shot at
the pole. Yeah, exactly right. But watching someone win the
Chili Bowl, which Rico has done watching Tanner do it
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this time that close a proximity. I don't know which
is crazier, the amount of people at the speedway or
that many people that close at the Chili Bowl in
the place. You it's like the deafening, Yeah, the electrifying atmosphere.
You know, It's it's similar, isn't it. Yeah? Yeah, the
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inflatables over the top of the crowd. I just kept
I just kept telling Tanner, just because I've obviously experienced
those moments, you know, twice now, and I just kept
telling them, like we went, we rode in the golf
cart there over the press conference, and you know it
was I just I just kept telling them, just enjoy
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this moment, like you never know if it will happen
again or not, But enjoy it. I mean, you just
won the biggest race of the year for you know
a lot of US racers. The Chili Bowl is the
number one race. Um. You know, you know these guys,
a lot of those guys in the building, they don't
compete at the Knox and Nationals or King's Royal or
you know, and and some of them probably have never
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even attended those events. But the Chili Bowl is the
number one for for more than you know, i'd say,
of the people that were in that building. So it's um.
You know, it's important to enjoy that time, enjoy it
with your team, enjoy it, you know. And and we
were I was walking out after the race and they
were all partying down with their trailer, and I just
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made stopped down there one more time just to tell him,
you know, this is it's pretty badass. I mean, what
what that that that building? How electric it gets? And
you know, they they only remember one person that that
leaves that point when they leave that place, and that's
who won the racing, and that was tannerth doorson. We're
gonna take a quick break care We'll be right back
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to the Skinny. We have Rico a Brew on the
show whether us here, fresh off of the thirty six
running other Lucas Oil Chili Bowl Midget Nationals is up
inside of the top three. A great run once again
with Keith Coons. And you were just talking about your
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good friend Tanner Thorson. You stopped buying afterwards and told him, hey, man,
make sure you take it all in and enjoy this.
And we had Tanner on the show here just previously,
and he had that Golden Driller sitting right beside him
the entire interview. He said, Man, he said, I'm still
not sure I'm taking all this in. He said. I
I want to, he said, but I don't. I gotta
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pinch myself, he said, but I'm taking this damn trophy
with me everywhere. Oh yeah, that's a Those ones are
hard to get, man. It's uh, it's it's a Chili Bowl,
you get. We're all racing there for one reason. It
ain't the money, you know, It's it's that golden driller
that Tanner had in his hands. Nobody has caught you
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when it comes to donuts. So he went out there
and attempted a donut, but there was no Rico abrew donut. No, no, no.
The doughnut account that we had for Rico, it far
exceeds anybody's a the chances. I don't know if you know,
anyone will ever get close to those. That was pretty
unbelievable night. I've never done donuts since that night. So
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it's been six years now, I think since I won
the Chili Bowl. Uh, and I haven't done donuts because
I don't think I could ever do anything to do plicates.
Those that was based up the bar pretty high, been
the front end up on it and everything. When he landed,
you did enough of him to cover a career. I mean,
boom done. Donuts are done. Yeah, I don't need to
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do attempt to do anymore. I have the car here
at our shop here in California, and it's the right
front axles bend up on it just because of those
donuts must have been flying around there. Tanner said. He
got out of the car. He said he was looking
at the steering wheel. Later on, he said the steering
wheels all bent up, he said, I don't know how
it got bent. He said, but it's but it's bent.
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He said, it's absolutely dished in like he had rammed it,
like almost rammed his fist through it. And he was
he said, yeah, he goes, I crossed the checker in
the start finish line. He goes, I was about to
pass out. He said. It was just just yeah, I
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could I mean just you couldn't even imagine that. But so,
what's your first race again, or what's your next race
this year? I should say, Um, I'm planning on running
about sixty Alas shows, so I think we're going to
try to start with them in Manolia, um, Mississippi. UM.
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So we'll see. We just gotta see where we're at.
I'm gonna spend some time in the middle of February,
right when everybody goes We're not going to Felicia so
or for any of the Floria stuff. So once everybody
goes down there, I'm gonna go to India and kind
of see where everything's at, and then we'll make a
final decision on what our first race will be. Sixty
of those things. Man, it's nearly the entire season. Yeah,
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it's three quarters where there of them, So, um, I
think it's it's um, you know, I want to get
out there and get racing with those guys that allows
are the best in the country, um, you know, and
get racing and helping. We're gonna sell T shirts again
and help Jason Sides, um you know, bring his shirts
out with us. So, um we're able to give the
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fans my shirts and Jason Side shirts. Yeah, that was
that was pretty awesome. And and man, I was pretty
impressed with the old Sides there the last couple of
years since two guys have hooked up. He he's definitely
starting to make kind of make some moves of the
of the years past and looked like he got a
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little more peppinist that may be a little different help.
So that was pretty cool to see. Yeah, Jay's uh,
you know, Jay's out there, one of those guys been
out there long time, grinding on it, and I just
want to be um, you know, supportive of his race
team and and uh you know, with us combining, it
was able to uh you know, help him more with
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sponsorship stuff. And it's it'll be a good time. Man.
This the size of boys are they're they're they're a
little wild guys, the wild sides. I mean they are
they definitely uh and and the and and some of
the best people you'll ever meet in your life on
top of it. So that's that's the cool part. Abrew
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is right there bringing the calm, docile Abrew here, and
everybody's not seeing the real deal. One thing he was talking,
he was talking about preparing, he was he was talking
about preparing. I was like, do they prepare for when
you stay all night at the dinghis across the street
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from Knoxville, And well, sometimes you just things just run late.
You're you're all you're all watted up and and you're
you're sorry that you have to run at five o'clock
the next afternoon. So that's, uh, that's a good time.
But now, I, you know, I I met Rico, I
don't know how many years ago, and you know, he
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was just kind of new out here running the you know,
running the midget stuff. And H. J. R. Todd of course,
which is a is a good friend to both of
us as well, and uh, you know, we all just
kind of kind of started running around and and uh,
you know, becoming more friends and and really close friends.
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As as it turns out, and and uh, and you know,
he's got a great name, you know, so he's got
that going for him, which you know, all the rest
of it can just you know, lay back. But but
now there's there's nothing short of a good time. And
the camaraderie that that in the family that's around racing.
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I mean, they they have no problem fighting, trust me,
but I mean they also have no problem being you know,
tied tied together and helping each other. When I mean
you watch somebody coming off the track and their cars
jumped in. Every team that that doesn't want them to
win is over there help and then get that car
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back together and trying to get him back on the track.
So it's a it's a great atmosphere. That's why we
love it. That's why we're involved in it. And so
it's a it's a lot of fun. So we're we're
excited excited to watch you do some more of it
this year. But I'm ready. Let's talk about your dad
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for a moment, because the reputation you and your father
have in the industry is second to none, and uh,
you'd be hard pressed to find somebody, uh that has
been around you guys that your father hasn't just helped
a little bit, I mean, but has gone way out
of his way over and above if you will, to
help out so many people. Where does that passion stem
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from for your dad? Um, I think just just understanding
people and UM, you know, my dad's desire to want
to help people succeed and um, not only just be successful,
but just be the greatest um of their ability and life.
And UM you know you see my father get behind
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um these young kids, Tanner Thorsen's, Ryan Robinson's, um you
know myself, you know. And and that's just on the
racing side, when when um, you know, there's there's so
much other stuff that he's able to, uh you know,
just just get the best out of um, you know,
even a mechanic or um. You know we're big in
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the lives the livestock industry with my brother and sister
and me growing up before I started racing, and and um,
you know, just giving kids opportunities is is something he's
really um you know, excelled at and and was um
you know, is able to do and and enjoy and
give back to these communities. UM. If you know it's
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racing livestock, the wine industry. UM, you know, he's just
any anything he touches, he's a in on and UM
you know it's you don't see that across this country much,
but when you do, UM, it's really pleasant to see
those things and and see people, UM you know, spread
their money around to to help others succeed in life.
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So I was trying to think the first team that
that I can remember him coming by him or you
guys coming east and doing you sack? Was that was that?
When Larson was running you it was? It was with
Keith Bloom Jr. And Davy Jones. I don't know if
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you remember that. It would have been like two thousand
h nine. I think he UM, Davy Jones built a
team basically from scratch for and Keith Bloom Junior started driving.
I think he did two years. And then Larson, Larsen
and I became really good friends through the go kart stuff.
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UM and Larsen just started running some um you know,
he started at Cati and stadtle hawed for construction, one
of my father's business partners do a lot of business
together through in the Napa Valley. UM. Seeing Kyle Larson
at the Calistoga, Louis vermil the first year, and he
was um wanted to help Kyle and then they got
together and did some stuff with the Catian's um with
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Kyle when he won the Golden State championship. And then
Kyle was looking to do some stuff in Indiana and
my dad all that had all this stuff there and
for some reason, I don't think Bloom could race um
so um or it was kind of on the downfall
of um that era of my dad supporting him um.
And we called Davy Jones. It was like three in
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the morning and he were like, Hey, we want to
fly in and race. Can you get the car ready?
And we back there, Yeah, and hey, that thing was
ready and Kyle I think he ran second in Bloomington,
and then we went to Lawrenceburg in one or something
and it was and then it was on from there
and then they started building wing cars. It was pretty cool. Yeah,
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Davy is I mean, he is one of a kind
and I of course remember that well and uh and uh,
but he just Rico has brought something up that I
have to touch on. They were trained by Bud Cating.
That's the problem, the whole, the whole, the whole party
atmosphere or the good time atmosphere, I should say, and
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I think, uh, I think, uh Bud's brother that that
ran some a tony stuff. He's like, yeah, Bud can
do anything. And they just laugh and think it's crazy
because I do anything like that, somebody wants to punch
me in the face. I go, clearly, he's clear, he's
clearly got that that might us touched. So but but yeah,
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I was I was talking to when we were talking
to Tanner, I was, I was discussing having lunch with
your dad and of course it's spent some time with
him before that, but uh, spending lunch with him and
talking about just different just different things and and just
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just an incredible human being. I mean, just an unbelievable person.
I mean, although he did throw you on the floorboard
of the truck and cover you up with the jacket.
We do remember that story for the last show, so so,
but you know it, He's a great guy. You're an
unbelievable person. And I can totally see where that comes from. So, uh,
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you see a lot of you see a lot of
people and uh, and uh you know exactly what their
parents are about. When you when you get to when
you get to meet them and see how they are.
So it's uh, it's uh, it's awesome. So um, hey man,
we'll wrap this thing up. But before we do that,
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I always learned something that I'm talking to you. Um,
I had no clue your father was involved in construction
at all, nor did I have any clue that you
guys had anything to do with livestock animals, and we're
big on that. But I for sure knew about the
a Brew vineyards, and and I wanted to go into
that a little bit with you. I've always been very curious.
I went on the website today and I see on
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their um olive oils you know they have. They have
the the olive trees and blackberries and of course the
grapes for the vineyard. But the one that that caught
my eye was the waiting list. You have to get
on a waiting list to let me, let me know
if I'm saying this right, you have to be on
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the list in order to buy from you guys. And
if you're not on the list, you have to get
on the waiting list to get onto the list. Is
that correct, Yes, sir, it's uh. They have because just
because there's such a minimal selective of wine that they
sell each year, and it, um, you know, once you
get off the list and the next person gets on
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that's been waiting. So um we've heard of people have
been waiting for six years now to get on and
they haven't got on yet. So the fact that my
wife's birthday is this coming Friday isn't gonna help at all.
Whenever I say, you know, I'd love to get a
bottle of wine for it, you can go online and
pony up. That's what you could. Yeah, there's secondary market
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you could jump on, but it's h Now, we're really
fortunate to be in those positions. And um, you know,
there's very humbling industry. The wine industry is, and it's
a it's it's where the best wine in the world
comes from here, right here in Apple Valley and it's
and it's nothing short of that. Yeah, I know, I
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know you're familiar with it for sure. And the you
guys almost lost it all right in the fire. Yeah,
that's that's you guys were tell us about that a
little bit. I forgot. Yeah, we were close. Um, the
fire was right here in our backyard, burned some of
our ranch actually where our grapes are produced from. So um.
But luckily we got such a great group of people
that are here UM and that wanted to help save
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the place. We got a bunch of bulldozers built up
a firebreak, UM and that's what helped save our ranch
where um a lot majority of the wine is stored.
And then all of our equipment. I can read the
label now, the sweet fruity taste where the natural smokey
filled it's got a little bit of that has got
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a little bit of an oak taste to it. So yeah, yeah,
I mean his brother I saw pictures of course, is
his brother out with with fire? Yeah, I mean stuff
just out there going at it. And I mean I
kept texting him and you know, sell service, you know,
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crazy and I was like, dude, or you got you know,
are you all right? I mean, I'll I'll drag whatever
I can out there, you know, to help. But it was,
it was, it was a scary time for everybody in
that area. And uh, glad they made it through it.
And I know that at one point, you know, when
Rico and I were talking about it, you know, they
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were they were concerned that exactly what you just said
that the smoke was going to ruin the grapes, and uh,
I think you guys made it through that decently, right,
is that what you told me? Yeah? Some of it,
um was was pretty wounded. Um, but there was some
stuff they could um that they saved or they picked
before the fire. So um you know that's right in
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harvest season October. Um. So last year it was I
think a year and a half ago now, so uh
you know, but it was they were able to salvage
some of the fruit and save it. But um, some
of it the smoke, it was tainted. So you when
when you sell a quality wine like Abrew Vineyards does
um you know you can't sell something tainted to these customers.
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So um you honestly just what they did was just
dropped the groups the fruit on the ground and and
they called as a loss. What what is the starting
point on a a Brew Vineyards bottle of wine? I mean,
I'm just thinking if I get on the weight list
and it's six years and I start saving now, right,
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you can do payroll to don you know, maybe like
a grand year in my am I in the hut, yo,
I I need to need to send you some wine
and you're U let me ask you this, is there
a waiting list for the extra virgin olive oil? Can
you get? Can you get a bottle of that? I
can get use some. It's good cooking avel. It's it
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comes night off our farm. So that's another you know,
entity that my dad has created, as in the olive
oil industry as well, where they hand pick these olives
and they sent them down the road to get pressed
and they come right back and everything's handcrafted. So it's
it's uh, you know here at our ranch. So they
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they actually um you know, obviously buy the glass for
the olive oil, but they do the corking and the
capsules and everything right in the house. Which is which
and the and the yeah special yeah Frances, Yeah, it's
the glasses from France. I saw a documentary. I saw
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a documentary. Uh, I'm not going to go there. I
saw a documentary on virgin olive oils and then they
went there and how they were created, you know, sometown
in Italy and uh and the test the taste testers.
I mean, my god, dude, I mean it's a legit process.
It's a very serious process. So when I saw that
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I was like, oh, man, that's super cool, because that
is not an easy industry. It's very very difficult. Yes,
it is, and it's very competitive as well. So there's
um you know you you see, you could tell the
difference pretty quickly of um, you know our family's alv
compared to your normal uh you know, cooking olivo that
you can buy at the grocery store. So he'll get
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you about all that. You can drink that and wre
you send me that and I'll tell my wife Hammond
got you. Don't don't put it in a virgin olive
oil bottle, just put it in a wine bottle and
I'll say, look what I got you. This is right
from a brew what a brew man, you're drek. Let's
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cook with it only costs six grand. Yeah, great stuff man.
As always, we always love having you on the show man.
You're you're a bull of fire, a load of energy.
You're an incredible driver. I love to watch you do
what you do, man Um your father and what you
guys do for the industry. We can't thank you guys enough.
Thank you guys for having me on Rico Abrew Ladies
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and gentlemen once again here on the Skinny. We certainly
appreciate this time. Hope you enjoyed the show. You can
always check it out. By the way, go to that
website and check out the Abrew Vineyards. Yes, you're welcome
to jump on that waiting list. Until then, we'll see
you next time. Thanks for being with us here on
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Kent stad Rico, I almost said, Abrew, Rico Elmore said alongside.
I was waiting. I was waiting on him when he said.
I wanted him to say, I'm Rico and this is
the Skinny. I'm like, I'm Rico, I'm talking about it. Well,
I I my initial opened that that Michael screwed up.
(00:46):
By the way, our engineer here today, thanks. I was
gonna say, if you could see him standing here side
by side, you'd clearly understand that we have the Rico
twins here with us. But he's seven minutes older than me,
so it's good. Rico a Row has joined us here
from California, fresh off of his run at the Chili Bowl.
Another stellar effort there ended up inside of the top three.
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Always always a tough player, another win on his pre
limb night. Um. Yeah, pretty impressive run there, my friend.
And another solid Chili Bowl, Yes, sir, it was. It
was a good one. Getting five PM years in a row.
You know, putting ourselves in contention every year is all
you can ask for at the Chili Bowl. Just being
(01:30):
right there at the end. So we got going pretty
good at the end of the race. It was exciting
for me to, um, you know, just be right there
knocking on the door. I know. Christopher and Tanner got
going early, um, you know, and then it just took
some time to get to them. Once we were there,
we shoved Bell the nose and and got him going.
So it's it was a lot of fun. I just
(01:51):
another great year the Chili Bowl. Um, it's just one
of my favorite races to be able to attend. Talk
to me about you make in that prelimb five consecutive
and I think is at seven or eight overall, but
five consecutive incredible effort there. I thought it was seven
totals that sound right, Yeah, so it's seven. It's seven
out of eight years. So I had a two thousand seventeen,
(02:13):
had a down year. But Keith Coon's he builds the
best race cars and when it comes to uh, you know,
you stack power. I'm as a racing um you know,
and his his cars they perform when they get inside
um that building. So I'm excited to uh to be
able to enjoy all of those wins with him and
(02:35):
his organization. They've put together a stout team this year,
bringing fifteen cars, locking five of them into the A
main and four of them were Culinary Night main event winners. Yeah,
the first four nights. Yeah, it's all Keith Coon's all
Keith Coon's uh incredible effort there and you known as
Mr Wednesday Night. But boy, you were put to the test.
And Chase Randall's running down there on that on that
(02:58):
catfish line, that gutta rat line, if you will, and
he closed the gap, took the lead and then slid
you bang the berm and that was the end of
his run. But man, were I was thinking, stay at
the bottom, dude, it's working. What are you doing, like,
just stay down there? You're driving away from him. But
once once that happened, man, you set sail. Yeah he uh,
you know, Chase put a little pressure on us, uh
(03:21):
made us really get up and get going. There at
the end. Then Kevin Thomas Jr. Put some pressure on
us the last few laps. I was able to ride
the high line and then moved down um on the
white flag lap and three and four and block Kevin's run.
So it was, you know, just another fantastic night where
you put a solid um race together. You know, we
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we got a heat race win and qualifier. Wind Um
started third in the feature on the prelium night and
about halfway we're leading. So um. You know those guys
they're gonna put pressure on you. Um. You know, especially
when you're leading, it makes it really difficult to know
where to run um. You know, and you can judge
that off lap traffic. And that Wednesday we didn't really
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have the chance to get into lap traffic. Um. You know,
maybe once or twice in the race, but nothing too
for me to really really be able to judge the pace. UM.
So I just kind of set my pace on the
top and once I've seen somebody on the bottom, I
moved down. Yeah, I mean it it was. There was
some amazing race racing this year. And uh, you know,
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as as we were talking earlier, been there many years,
watch many people uh beat that track and been beat
up by that track and uh. And it takes one
small mistake. It's not it's not like it's some catastrophic
you fence it, you hit the wall, any of the above.
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I mean it's a bobble and uh. For the consecutive
wins that that Ricos had and uh and again, like
you said, Keith Coons is operation Um. You know it's uh.
And by the way, I don't want to go without
saying this Dason personally being there that's pretty special. Yeah. Yeah,
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how how's he? Uh? How I didn't get to talk
to him, he was over there and I didn't want
to bother him. But doing doing a lot better. Yeah,
he's in great spirits, man, and he's working hard just
to get him back to UM. I noticed, you know,
he mentioned a little bit of struggle with the left
side of the body. UM. But there's no there's no
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boundaries to to what the kid is capable of doing. UM.
There's nobody holding him back. He's pushing himself and that's
what you want to see. UM. And and he's are
in good hands, you know, with the supportive UM. You know,
I think he's at this final center in Atlanta Georgia. Um,
you know, what an amazing group to be a part of.
And um, you know, his mother is definitely Mom of
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the year, um for taking care of him through all
this and uh, you know that's your baby boy, so
you're gonna do whatever you can for him. And he
he was you know, it was just so emotionally great
to see him, um out and about see his face,
see him smile, and even though he had a mask
on the whole time, you could see um, you know
those cheeks right were rosen risen up. You know, the
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whole uh, Friday and Saturday time he was there, so um,
it was great to see Dason. He's he's a fighter,
he's got a great attitude towards the direction he's going
with everything, and he's going to be in a race
car not before long. It's easy to lose sight of
of what your goal is when you get in the
middle of the fight, like he's in the middle of
the fight right now. And I promise you when he
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got out there and got around those racers and got
around all of you guys again, man, it had to
be a huge emotional support for him. Yeah. I mean
that's everything is is those the fans, his family, the racers,
that's that's what's driving him to keep this fight alive.
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And um, you know, it's just really it was really
awesome to see it. Um. You know, I got a
little emotional when he walked out, um in the grandstands
in three and four and you see the support from
the fans. And it's not just the racers that are
that are following his path here with you know, with
a road to recovery. So um, it's the race fans,
it's his family, and it's in the racers, you guys.
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You know, everybody's behind this kid, and that's what's gonna
bring him to back to the top. It was pretty
unbelievable that the fans when he got announced, and I
mean it was I was. I I didn't I hadn't
seen him there yet. I didn't wander far from the cooler,
but anyhow, I hadn't seen him yet, and uh, he
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was Yeah, it was. It was awesome man. And Kaylee,
Bryce and I brought her up earlier on the show.
We were just talking about, uh teammate of yours. Um,
she's she's got some she's got some definite drive, some
spunk man and and she uh, she wasn't gonna be
denied to be to make history that night. She Uh,
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she did an amazing job tent to first and A B.
Maine is. It's pretty difficult when it's um, you know,
you're at the Chili Bowl. Those are um, you know
obviously that B. Maine is those guys that that all
the third place finishers from the prelum nights. Um, so
they're you know, a pretty stout field there. So it's uh,
you know, third, fourth, fifth, I think all the way
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through seventh. So um, you know, you're not racing against uh,
you know, anybody that doesn't know what they're doing. So
she did an amazing job. First female to make the
A Maine at the Chili Bowl history. Um you know,
it's just there was a lot going on at the
Chili Bowl. So it's cool to be a part of
all that. Yeah, And she had kind of forecasted that, Um,
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I think she was. She had qualified on the pole
out of Ventura for Turkey Night Grand Prix, and if
I'm not mistaken, I think an all female front row
first time in history there as well, So some talented,
some talented ladies coming through the field. I thought a
really cool moment was right before driver introductions. I don't
know if you caught this or not, Rico, but Team
AS was standing there and wanted to get a selfie
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with her, and I was like, that's Team AS. Team
has wanted to get a selfie with Kaylie. That's pretty
damn cool. Man, that's cool. Yeah, that's great. Team as
a wild guy. He's just a little while, just a
little out there, hey man, talk me through through that
race on your prelum night you were you were talking
about it before. You actually struggled a little bit in
(09:30):
the in the beginning, trying to get that thing sorted.
You went up to the top and boy, running the
top all week long. I mean, it seemed like there
was some speed there, but boy, as Rico Elmore here
said in the studio, you needed to be spot on.
You can miss it by a couple of inches, man,
and find yourself on your lid. But you you were
finally able, I don't know what it was, maybe midway
point through, uh, finally figured that top shelf out and
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you were just grazing that ledge and driving off of it.
It looked beautiful. Once the pace slowed down, my car
got really good. And the beginning of the race there
was quite a bit of grip. It was just a
little bit more difficult to take off, so I moved up.
I ran the bottom of the first few laps, moved up.
Um you know that a little cushion got to start
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getting built, and it really took off about halfway through.
So over the years, I've been so committed to run
in the bottom of the Chili Bowl. This year I
showed up saying, I'm gonna run wherever my car wants
to take me. If I feel like going to the top,
I'm gonna try to make this work. So, um, you know,
about halfway through the race on Wednesday night, I was
able to really take off and get some big speed
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down the back straight away and past McDougal and uh
Kopie Copeland in three and four and then um, you know,
got to racing with Chase Randall and Kevin Thomas Jr.
Made a race winning move, um you know on the
last lap and three and four on the bottom. So
the track kind of um started on the bottom. Halfway
through we were all ripping the top. Um. And then
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the last in or so lapse, it was starting to
work its way back to the bottom, just because the
top gets so treacherous once it gets up by the wall,
the cushion gets so defined to run, it's really difficult
to not make mistakes. And you see those guys venture
back to the bottom and one little hiccup, um you know,
and they'll they'll get right to you, uh and pressure
you and and make you, um have to drive a
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little bit harder, which um you know, raises that bar
for that mistake factor. So um you know. Luckily, I
was just trying to be smooth, um and stay calm
as as as well as I could. Um, you know,
they're at the end being pressured. I just didn't want
to make mistakes, so I slowed my pace down a
little bit loud Kevin to get to my inside and
luckily I got down at the right time on the
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last lap. And that's what want is the race. Rico Abrew,
one of our house drivers here at bat Heads. I
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the skinny. We have an amazing race car driver on
the show with us here today. And Rico abrew the
two thousand fourteen Youth second National Midget champ in Indiana
Midget Week champ, twenty five wins that year, two thousand
thirteen National Midget Rookie of the Year. Of course, two
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times Chili Bowl winner as well, longtime driver for Keith Cones.
And currently you really run a mixed bag of where
you want to go racing. Man. It might be World
of Outlaws, it might be All Stars, it might be Usak.
Who knows where you might see Rico Abrew. It's gotta
be a lot of fun for you to just pick
and choose where you want to go play it is.
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I enjoy it, um. I just like to go race
for money in the big races. So you know, as
long as as long as these guys keep paying good money,
I'll keep showing up at their races. True Outlaw, Yeah,
True Outlaw. How how the series started? Right, That's exactly.
I didn't want to follow all the rules and the guidelines,
so they started that thing. Was a year bore you, ma'am.
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Seventeen top three is I was kind of looking down
through there for your results. Are the seventeen top threes.
Ten of those were second places, three of them wins.
But man Bride'smaid, Bride'smaid, bride'smaid. You had to be sick
and tired of finishing seconds, like I gotta win one
of these things. Yeah, we really got going there at
the end of the year. Um. You know, just that's
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just how it goes sometimes, Ken and it's it's um,
you know, it can be difficult to to win these races. Um.
You know, especially when you're focusing on on really key events.
Um you know where the best competition is in the country.
It's uh, it just makes it difficult to win, you know,
but we were were consistent, and that's all you can
ask for putting yourself in contention. UM. That's really what
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I focused on this year, is just being right there
at the end of these races and um, you know
there's just little minor changes probably could have been the
difference of us winning or losing races. Um. You know
the ones that that got me quite frustrated, where where
we started off the front row and run third or fourth. Um,
you know, right at the end we just kind of
missed it on fuel load or um when the fuel
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had burned off, we got it got really difficult to
just stick those retires of our sprint cars. So UM,
but we're starting two off great with a prelim win
and a top three, So two top three finishes in
two races, which you can't ask for better than that.
So you've got Rick Warner this year. Tell us about it.
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I'm excited to get the opportunity to race for race
with Rick. Um. I feel like he's one of the
best grew chiefs in the country and I'm able to, uh,
you know, just just take that next step of you know,
my success in my career, and I want to do
whatever it takes to win the Knoxel Nationals and King's
Roles and the races that pay the most money. He uh,
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he definitely is unbelievable. Um. Of course, I've watched him
for years, but really got to watch him when you
know Tony when he was working with Tony on Tony's car,
the fourteen car, and I mean he um, I'm not
sure if there's many that go at it exactly the
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way he goes at it, but it's, uh, it's pretty
cool to watch. So I'm happy for you. I'm happy
for him and uh I it's it's gonna be good
for everybody. And I just as I told him when
I saw him at the chili bowl. I told him,
I said, one, you sound like hell and uh, I said,
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I said to you, better make sure you take care
of yourself. And then of course I got to see
his wife, Denell, which can be meaner than a snake
at times if you provoke her. So which is my favorite.
So you know that great family and I and and
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uh Rickey's son. He was with you for a minute,
right is that? Yeah, Drew and I raced together for
two years. We were together for two years, so you
and I, Um, you know, I consider him one of
my best friends to now Stevie, rick you know, they've
they've been um like family to me for almost ten
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years now. When I first started hanging around in the
sprint car world, Um, you know know and Ricky and
then Drew being a mechanic out here in California, I
get to see him, be around him. He's really close.
Um lives close to me. So, uh you know, they
just they're just die hard race fans. Family, you know,
come from a race background. All they know, all they
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want to do is race. Um and um you know
rick Is he's he's one of the best, um you
know where he where he really comes in as a
as a packaged mechanic crew chief. Is his experience and
his critical thinking at the race track, those final decisions
that get made right before your car gets pushed out,
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you know. And and and Rick is really good about
driving confidence into that race car driver, you know, and
making them feel comfortable, um, you know, and confident when
they get out there on the racetrack that they are
going to be fast no matter what the circumstances is.
That race car is going to run right around that
corner and it's going to be stuck no matter where
you run it. Yeah, and he is, he is. He's
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a great coach and and I mean just a lot
Ricos talking about, but an unbelievable coach. And uh, the
knowledge that he has from the people that he learned
it from is probably second to none. I mean the
Gary Stantons that that you know, Tanner was talking about earlier,
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you know, Darryl Socier. Uh you know of course Ronnie Um, um,
why I forget Ronnie's name, the injury, the builder um
favor Yeah Shavers you know, and yeah I'm buying from
you can't. What what makes it so um interesting about
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the sport of sprint car racing is you can't buy
experience and you can't buy that knowledge. Um. Yeah, you
can go and find, um, you know, a young get
a young mechanic and want to develop them to be
a crew chief. Um you know. But where where people
learn is is experiences and different circumstances and being out
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there on the road grinding, um you know, and and
and right taken down notes and understanding why things do
what on race cars. Um you know. So um you know,
as a as a mechanic or a crew chief coming
up through the ranks, it's important that you surround yourself
by the best people possible and you learn everything you
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can from that person. Yeah, that chemistry, everybody talks about it.
You win a championship whenever there's team chemistry, and it's
without it, you're not gonna win a championship. But I
love what you guys are saying about him, and I
don't know him at all, but clearly a guy with
a ton of experience that you talked about out on
the road grinding for many many years. So what it
tells me is he's he sees a lot of stuff
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and those seasoned eyes can correlate with a driver and
what that driver is saying or as you mentioned before,
a brew. Uh. You know, he takes a look at
that track just before you guys are gonna roll off,
and he's not guessing at what that tracks are gonna do.
He's got a pretty damn good idea what that track
is gonna do and how it's gonna develop, you know,
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over the course of the laughs of that main so
he can make those final adjustments, air pressures, whatever it
may be, to make sure your cars as good as
it is in the end. And then he installs that
confidence in you. Like you said, I mean that's a
that's a lethal combination. Yeah, absolutely, Um, you know, it's
you show up to the racetrack with a plan. So
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the track does this, We're gonna go this direction, the
track does that, We're going to go that direction. You
already know, your decisions already made before it even happens.
So it's that's what that's where you beat these guys, um,
you know. And then the chemistry between the creuch even
the driver and the relationship and um, you know he
needs he knows what I need and I know what
he needs to to keep it selling. Um, And that's
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where that's where you see these guys win these major races,
and and that's the position I need to be in
to to accomplish those goals. In my career is is
winning the Knoxia Nationals, the King's Roles, winning another Chili Bowl.
I need to keep putting myself in good positions so
I get those races one again, I I get star
struck myself. I mean, I feel the pressure. I've said
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this a couple of times on the show. Um, I mean,
short of my son winn in a championship, you know,
a couple of moments with my son, uh safely inside
of the top three. Was when I was standing at
the line last year at the five hundred on pole day,
part of part of the Ganassi team. Clearly don't need
a spot or whenever you're qualifying for a pole, but
I was standing down there on the starting grid. Uh,
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second to last goes out and lays down the quickest time.
So that was the time we had to beat. And
the crowd went crazy, right, I mean everybody yelling, screaming, cheering,
and I'm standing there, I mean goose bumps now thinking
about it, But I'm standing there thinking, I don't know
if we're gonna beat that guy there, So I have
a little bit of doubt in my brain. You know,
I'm not saying a word, so I'm thinking, wow, man,
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this uh and the pressure, I mean, my god, dude,
I mean, there's just no explaining the amount of pressure
that is that you feel standing down there, everybody watching you.
There's one car left to roll out, and it's Scott Dixon, right,
And I remember one of the crew members turning around,
never flinched, never blinked an eye, and he said, if
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they think that car is fast, wait till they see
this one. And I was like, oh my god, you know,
I mean, never flinched, like we're just gonna kick his ass.
And that's what's gonna happen and for everyone. And that's
what happened. See what I did there, Michael, It was
pretty cool. Did you see who wont or get second?
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Heard a heard it was second and heard it was
hauling ass? Yeah. But oh, that's right because because on
the previous day he went out when it was really
hot and he said there's a lot left inside of
his car, so we knew he had a shot at
the pole. Yeah, exactly right. But watching someone win the
Chili Bowl, which Rico has done watching Tanner do it
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this time that close a proximity. I don't know which
is crazier, the amount of people at the speedway or
that many people that close at the Chili Bowl in
the place. You it's like the deafening, Yeah, the electrifying atmosphere.
You know, It's it's similar, isn't it. Yeah? Yeah, the
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inflatables over the top of the crowd. I just kept
I just kept telling Tanner, just because I've obviously experienced
those moments, you know, twice now, and I just kept
telling them, like we went, we rode in the golf
cart there over the press conference, and you know it
was I just I just kept telling them, just enjoy
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this moment, like you never know if it will happen
again or not, But enjoy it. I mean, you just
won the biggest race of the year for you know
a lot of US racers. The Chili Bowl is the
number one race. Um. You know, you know these guys,
a lot of those guys in the building, they don't
compete at the Knox and Nationals or King's Royal or
you know, and and some of them probably have never
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even attended those events. But the Chili Bowl is the
number one for for more than you know, i'd say,
of the people that were in that building. So it's um.
You know, it's important to enjoy that time, enjoy it
with your team, enjoy it, you know. And and we
were I was walking out after the race and they
were all partying down with their trailer, and I just
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made stopped down there one more time just to tell him,
you know, this is it's pretty badass. I mean, what
what that that that building? How electric it gets? And
you know, they they only remember one person that that
leaves that point when they leave that place, and that's
who won the racing, and that was tannerth doorson. We're
gonna take a quick break care We'll be right back
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to the Skinny. We have Rico a Brew on the
show whether us here, fresh off of the thirty six
running other Lucas Oil Chili Bowl Midget Nationals is up
inside of the top three. A great run once again
with Keith Coons. And you were just talking about your
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good friend Tanner Thorson. You stopped buying afterwards and told him, hey, man,
make sure you take it all in and enjoy this.
And we had Tanner on the show here just previously,
and he had that Golden Driller sitting right beside him
the entire interview. He said, Man, he said, I'm still
not sure I'm taking all this in. He said. I
I want to, he said, but I don't. I gotta
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pinch myself, he said, but I'm taking this damn trophy
with me everywhere. Oh yeah, that's a Those ones are
hard to get, man. It's uh, it's it's a Chili Bowl,
you get. We're all racing there for one reason. It
ain't the money, you know, It's it's that golden driller
that Tanner had in his hands. Nobody has caught you
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when it comes to donuts. So he went out there
and attempted a donut, but there was no Rico abrew donut. No, no, no.
The doughnut account that we had for Rico, it far
exceeds anybody's a the chances. I don't know if you know,
anyone will ever get close to those. That was pretty
unbelievable night. I've never done donuts since that night. So
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it's been six years now, I think since I won
the Chili Bowl. Uh, and I haven't done donuts because
I don't think I could ever do anything to do plicates.
Those that was based up the bar pretty high, been
the front end up on it and everything. When he landed,
you did enough of him to cover a career. I mean,
boom done. Donuts are done. Yeah, I don't need to
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do attempt to do anymore. I have the car here
at our shop here in California, and it's the right
front axles bend up on it just because of those
donuts must have been flying around there. Tanner said. He
got out of the car. He said he was looking
at the steering wheel. Later on, he said the steering
wheels all bent up, he said, I don't know how
it got bent. He said, but it's but it's bent.
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He said, it's absolutely dished in like he had rammed it,
like almost rammed his fist through it. And he was
he said, yeah, he goes, I crossed the checker in
the start finish line. He goes, I was about to
pass out. He said. It was just just yeah, I
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could I mean just you couldn't even imagine that. But so,
what's your first race again, or what's your next race
this year? I should say, Um, I'm planning on running
about sixty Alas shows, so I think we're going to
try to start with them in Manolia, um, Mississippi. UM.
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So we'll see. We just gotta see where we're at.
I'm gonna spend some time in the middle of February,
right when everybody goes We're not going to Felicia so
or for any of the Floria stuff. So once everybody
goes down there, I'm gonna go to India and kind
of see where everything's at, and then we'll make a
final decision on what our first race will be. Sixty
of those things. Man, it's nearly the entire season. Yeah,
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it's three quarters where there of them, So, um, I
think it's it's um, you know, I want to get
out there and get racing with those guys that allows
are the best in the country, um, you know, and
get racing and helping. We're gonna sell T shirts again
and help Jason Sides, um you know, bring his shirts
out with us. So, um we're able to give the
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fans my shirts and Jason Side shirts. Yeah, that was
that was pretty awesome. And and man, I was pretty
impressed with the old Sides there the last couple of
years since two guys have hooked up. He he's definitely
starting to make kind of make some moves of the
of the years past and looked like he got a
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little more peppinist that may be a little different help.
So that was pretty cool to see. Yeah, Jay's uh,
you know, Jay's out there, one of those guys been
out there long time, grinding on it, and I just
want to be um, you know, supportive of his race
team and and uh you know, with us combining, it
was able to uh you know, help him more with
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sponsorship stuff. And it's it'll be a good time. Man.
This the size of boys are they're they're they're a
little wild guys, the wild sides. I mean they are
they definitely uh and and the and and some of
the best people you'll ever meet in your life on
top of it. So that's that's the cool part. Abrew
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is right there bringing the calm, docile Abrew here, and
everybody's not seeing the real deal. One thing he was talking,
he was talking about preparing, he was he was talking
about preparing. I was like, do they prepare for when
you stay all night at the dinghis across the street
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from Knoxville, And well, sometimes you just things just run late.
You're you're all you're all watted up and and you're
you're sorry that you have to run at five o'clock
the next afternoon. So that's, uh, that's a good time.
But now, I, you know, I I met Rico, I
don't know how many years ago, and you know, he
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was just kind of new out here running the you know,
running the midget stuff. And H. J. R. Todd of course,
which is a is a good friend to both of
us as well, and uh, you know, we all just
kind of kind of started running around and and uh,
you know, becoming more friends and and really close friends.
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As as it turns out, and and uh, and you know,
he's got a great name, you know, so he's got
that going for him, which you know, all the rest
of it can just you know, lay back. But but
now there's there's nothing short of a good time. And
the camaraderie that that in the family that's around racing.
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I mean, they they have no problem fighting, trust me,
but I mean they also have no problem being you know,
tied tied together and helping each other. When I mean
you watch somebody coming off the track and their cars
jumped in. Every team that that doesn't want them to
win is over there help and then get that car
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back together and trying to get him back on the track.
So it's a it's a great atmosphere. That's why we
love it. That's why we're involved in it. And so
it's a it's a lot of fun. So we're we're
excited excited to watch you do some more of it
this year. But I'm ready. Let's talk about your dad
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for a moment, because the reputation you and your father
have in the industry is second to none, and uh,
you'd be hard pressed to find somebody, uh that has
been around you guys that your father hasn't just helped
a little bit, I mean, but has gone way out
of his way over and above if you will, to
help out so many people. Where does that passion stem
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from for your dad? Um, I think just just understanding
people and UM, you know, my dad's desire to want
to help people succeed and um, not only just be successful,
but just be the greatest um of their ability and life.
And UM you know you see my father get behind
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um these young kids, Tanner Thorsen's, Ryan Robinson's, um you
know myself, you know. And and that's just on the
racing side, when when um, you know, there's there's so
much other stuff that he's able to, uh you know,
just just get the best out of um, you know,
even a mechanic or um. You know we're big in
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the lives the livestock industry with my brother and sister
and me growing up before I started racing, and and um,
you know, just giving kids opportunities is is something he's
really um you know, excelled at and and was um
you know, is able to do and and enjoy and
give back to these communities. UM. If you know it's
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racing livestock, the wine industry. UM, you know, he's just
any anything he touches, he's a in on and UM
you know it's you don't see that across this country much,
but when you do, UM, it's really pleasant to see
those things and and see people, UM you know, spread
their money around to to help others succeed in life.
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So I was trying to think the first team that
that I can remember him coming by him or you
guys coming east and doing you sack? Was that was that?
When Larson was running you it was? It was with
Keith Bloom Jr. And Davy Jones. I don't know if
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you remember that. It would have been like two thousand
h nine. I think he UM, Davy Jones built a
team basically from scratch for and Keith Bloom Junior started driving.
I think he did two years. And then Larson, Larsen
and I became really good friends through the go kart stuff.
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UM and Larsen just started running some um you know,
he started at Cati and stadtle hawed for construction, one
of my father's business partners do a lot of business
together through in the Napa Valley. UM. Seeing Kyle Larson
at the Calistoga, Louis vermil the first year, and he
was um wanted to help Kyle and then they got
together and did some stuff with the Catian's um with
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Kyle when he won the Golden State championship. And then
Kyle was looking to do some stuff in Indiana and
my dad all that had all this stuff there and
for some reason, I don't think Bloom could race um
so um or it was kind of on the downfall
of um that era of my dad supporting him um.
And we called Davy Jones. It was like three in
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the morning and he were like, Hey, we want to
fly in and race. Can you get the car ready?
And we back there, Yeah, and hey, that thing was
ready and Kyle I think he ran second in Bloomington,
and then we went to Lawrenceburg in one or something
and it was and then it was on from there
and then they started building wing cars. It was pretty cool. Yeah,
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Davy is I mean, he is one of a kind
and I of course remember that well and uh and uh,
but he just Rico has brought something up that I
have to touch on. They were trained by Bud Cating.
That's the problem, the whole, the whole, the whole party
atmosphere or the good time atmosphere, I should say, and
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I think, uh, I think, uh Bud's brother that that
ran some a tony stuff. He's like, yeah, Bud can
do anything. And they just laugh and think it's crazy
because I do anything like that, somebody wants to punch
me in the face. I go, clearly, he's clear, he's
clearly got that that might us touched. So but but yeah,
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I was I was talking to when we were talking
to Tanner, I was, I was discussing having lunch with
your dad and of course it's spent some time with
him before that, but uh, spending lunch with him and
talking about just different just different things and and just
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just an incredible human being. I mean, just an unbelievable person.
I mean, although he did throw you on the floorboard
of the truck and cover you up with the jacket.
We do remember that story for the last show, so so,
but you know it, He's a great guy. You're an
unbelievable person. And I can totally see where that comes from. So, uh,
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you see a lot of you see a lot of
people and uh, and uh you know exactly what their
parents are about. When you when you get to when
you get to meet them and see how they are.
So it's uh, it's uh, it's awesome. So um, hey man,
we'll wrap this thing up. But before we do that,
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I always learned something that I'm talking to you. Um,
I had no clue your father was involved in construction
at all, nor did I have any clue that you
guys had anything to do with livestock animals, and we're
big on that. But I for sure knew about the
a Brew vineyards, and and I wanted to go into
that a little bit with you. I've always been very curious.
I went on the website today and I see on
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their um olive oils you know they have. They have
the the olive trees and blackberries and of course the
grapes for the vineyard. But the one that that caught
my eye was the waiting list. You have to get
on a waiting list to let me, let me know
if I'm saying this right, you have to be on
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the list in order to buy from you guys. And
if you're not on the list, you have to get
on the waiting list to get onto the list. Is
that correct, Yes, sir, it's uh. They have because just
because there's such a minimal selective of wine that they
sell each year, and it, um, you know, once you
get off the list and the next person gets on
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that's been waiting. So um we've heard of people have
been waiting for six years now to get on and
they haven't got on yet. So the fact that my
wife's birthday is this coming Friday isn't gonna help at all.
Whenever I say, you know, I'd love to get a
bottle of wine for it, you can go online and
pony up. That's what you could. Yeah, there's secondary market
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you could jump on, but it's h Now, we're really
fortunate to be in those positions. And um, you know,
there's very humbling industry. The wine industry is, and it's
a it's it's where the best wine in the world
comes from here, right here in Apple Valley and it's
and it's nothing short of that. Yeah, I know, I
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know you're familiar with it for sure. And the you
guys almost lost it all right in the fire. Yeah,
that's that's you guys were tell us about that a
little bit. I forgot. Yeah, we were close. Um, the
fire was right here in our backyard, burned some of
our ranch actually where our grapes are produced from. So um.
But luckily we got such a great group of people
that are here UM and that wanted to help save
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the place. We got a bunch of bulldozers built up
a firebreak, UM and that's what helped save our ranch
where um a lot majority of the wine is stored.
And then all of our equipment. I can read the
label now, the sweet fruity taste where the natural smokey
filled it's got a little bit of that has got
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a little bit of an oak taste to it. So yeah, yeah,
I mean his brother I saw pictures of course, is
his brother out with with fire? Yeah, I mean stuff
just out there going at it. And I mean I
kept texting him and you know, sell service, you know,
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crazy and I was like, dude, or you got you know,
are you all right? I mean, I'll I'll drag whatever
I can out there, you know, to help. But it was,
it was, it was a scary time for everybody in
that area. And uh, glad they made it through it.
And I know that at one point, you know, when
Rico and I were talking about it, you know, they
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were they were concerned that exactly what you just said
that the smoke was going to ruin the grapes, and uh,
I think you guys made it through that decently, right,
is that what you told me? Yeah? Some of it,
um was was pretty wounded. Um, but there was some
stuff they could um that they saved or they picked
before the fire. So um you know that's right in
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harvest season October. Um. So last year it was I
think a year and a half ago now, so uh
you know, but it was they were able to salvage
some of the fruit and save it. But um, some
of it the smoke, it was tainted. So you when
when you sell a quality wine like Abrew Vineyards does
um you know you can't sell something tainted to these customers.
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So um you honestly just what they did was just
dropped the groups the fruit on the ground and and
they called as a loss. What what is the starting
point on a a Brew Vineyards bottle of wine? I mean,
I'm just thinking if I get on the weight list
and it's six years and I start saving now, right,
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you can do payroll to don you know, maybe like
a grand year in my am I in the hut, yo,
I I need to need to send you some wine
and you're U let me ask you this, is there
a waiting list for the extra virgin olive oil? Can
you get? Can you get a bottle of that? I
can get use some. It's good cooking avel. It's it
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comes night off our farm. So that's another you know,
entity that my dad has created, as in the olive
oil industry as well, where they hand pick these olives
and they sent them down the road to get pressed
and they come right back and everything's handcrafted. So it's
it's uh, you know here at our ranch. So they
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they actually um you know, obviously buy the glass for
the olive oil, but they do the corking and the
capsules and everything right in the house. Which is which
and the and the yeah special yeah Frances, Yeah, it's
the glasses from France. I saw a documentary. I saw
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a documentary. Uh, I'm not going to go there. I
saw a documentary on virgin olive oils and then they
went there and how they were created, you know, sometown
in Italy and uh and the test the taste testers.
I mean, my god, dude, I mean it's a legit process.
It's a very serious process. So when I saw that
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I was like, oh, man, that's super cool, because that
is not an easy industry. It's very very difficult. Yes,
it is, and it's very competitive as well. So there's
um you know you you see, you could tell the
difference pretty quickly of um, you know our family's alv
compared to your normal uh you know, cooking olivo that
you can buy at the grocery store. So he'll get
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you about all that. You can drink that and wre
you send me that and I'll tell my wife Hammond
got you. Don't don't put it in a virgin olive
oil bottle, just put it in a wine bottle and
I'll say, look what I got you. This is right
from a brew what a brew man, you're drek. Let's
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cook with it only costs six grand. Yeah, great stuff man.
As always, we always love having you on the show man.
You're you're a bull of fire, a load of energy.
You're an incredible driver. I love to watch you do
what you do, man Um your father and what you
guys do for the industry. We can't thank you guys enough.
Thank you guys for having me on Rico Abrew Ladies
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and gentlemen once again here on the Skinny. We certainly
appreciate this time. Hope you enjoyed the show. You can
always check it out. By the way, go to that
website and check out the Abrew Vineyards. Yes, you're welcome
to jump on that waiting list. Until then, we'll see
you next time. Thanks for being with us here on
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