Ready to find out why your podcast strategy is probably wrong, and how to fix it? In this full episode of the Snarketing Podcast, co-hosts Matt Wurst and Valerie Vespa sit down with Jordan Fox, CEO of Ad Results Media (ARM), to talk about the fast-evolving world of audio, the YouTube-ification of podcasts, and what it really takes to build brand relevance in a content-obsessed world.
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Oh, and there’s also a spontaneous bromance, a story about cold-calling MGM as a teenager, and some seriously hot takes on Cannes networking and agency acquisition trends. It’s smart, snarky, and just the right amount of self-aware.
Topics covered: The rise of audio-first creators and cross-platform podcast strategy; Host-read ads vs. AI-generated content; Why YouTube is eating podcasting; Radio’s surprising ROI (yes, really); Building brand deals at scale; Agency specialization vs. Holdco homogenization; Cannes serendipity, bromantic energy, and more
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