September 9, 2025 • 36 mins
✨ 10 Things I Hate About You… but make it astrology ✨
This week we’re breaking down the iconic characters of this 90s rom-com through the zodiac. Which signs are Bianca and Kat giving? What placements scream Cameron or Joey? 👀
Join Mimî and Ciera as they assign astrology signs to the cast, unpack character dynamics, and maybe roast a few along the way.
Because everything’s better when viewed through the stars—even your fave teen rom-com 💫
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The stars made me do it. Welcome back to the Stars Made
Me Do It. And today, we're going to
discuss the 10 things that we hate about each other.
I'm ready. Finally.
One public space for me to share.
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Call back a real OG call back. I'm so excited.
We're doing an analysis for 10 Things I Hate About You, which
just like classic classic. Team movie.
Such a Sierra movie. Like I had never seen this
before. I watched it last night as
research. Wait, I'm sorry, what?
I had never seen it. I thought I had because I've
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seen the scene where Julia Stiles is on the porch with her
Papa. I'm like gonna need to edit out
some of my shock. Like what?
Yeah, I guess it just like Slipped 1999.
I just wonder like what other movies came out then that I was
probably watching instead. This was one of those movies
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there was like my cousins would visit in the summer and every
summer we kind of had like an obsessive movie and like 1
summer, it was the third Harry Potter.
Like we would just watch that like everyday type of thing.
And there was 1 summer where it was 10 things I hate about you.
Like we would just watch it overand over and over again.
So I, I did watch this movie actually like 2 weeks ago just
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for funsies, like just on my own, like during my lunch breaks
throughout the week. And so I was like, yeah, no, I
don't really need to fully rewatch it.
I I mean I have the entire moviememorized and I just watched it
recently but I literally had this entire their movie
memorized my God. Yeah, I know.
So it was a good watch too. I really did enjoy.
It it's just so it's such a golden era of teen movie time.
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Yeah, and also it's another classic.
There were some moments that really made me cringe.
I was like like the boys in thismovie.
I know. And also Mr. Morgan was I
watched this with my mom who's aretired teacher.
Like she was a teacher for over 3 decades.
And every time that Mister Morgan was on the screen, we
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were just like, what's this guy doing in a classroom?
Like he's so problematic just telling his student to shut the
fuck up. Like whenever he.
Wants so problematic. I know, I know.
But like this is also another great example.
Just like she's the man of modern movies that are based off
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of Shakespeare. And so you like you just it's it
like, that's why it's a classic.Yeah, which I didn't realize
either until like halfway through the movie and my mom
mentioned it. I was like, yeah, you're so
right. Yes.
And like, and they have like thenotes to Shakespeare in it too,
you know. Yeah, yeah.
OK, so if you're new here and you've never listened to an
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analysis, basically what we do is we go through the characters,
we talk about their qualities and we give them, we kind of
assign them a chart based off what we think.
And then we also look at the actor, so comparing the actor to
the character. Yeah, I mean, this is just like
one of my favorite things about astrology and what like really
inspired this podcast like way back in the day of just being
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like, Oh my God, this character,what would they be?
Would they be a Pisces? Would they be a Leo?
Would they be like, so I just I,I do this naturally watching
anything ever just trying to guess what their signs are.
And it's so much fun to do it with.
You get to hear feedback from listeners and friends.
And I love like my my friends who do listen to this podcast.
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They especially love the analysis episodes and I will get
messages from them being like, Itotally see why you said that.
So and so was this sign like I just cuz we have such this.
Like, I can't believe you gave it, Bianca.
Oh, my God. Bianca I.
Know I know when you like have the same signs as the ones we
give the characters. It's like, no shade, but you're
Mrs. Crunch Bowl. Yeah.
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Cool. Well, let's let's.
Do it. Yeah, let's get into it.
Should we start with Cameron Little Joseph Gordon Lovett.
What a baby. Baby Joseph Gordon Lovett like.
He's an infant. So.
Good. OK, I burn, I pine, I perish.
Like such a little romantic so. And I also like he's so in love
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with Bianca's purity, like the idea of her purity.
So with that, I give kind of Pisces Virgo vibes.
Like such a romantic. I would say that's the Pisces of
just like completely dissolving himself and just being so in
love and loving Bianca's just like cleanliness and purity.
I think I see that access a lot.But then I also really see like
cardinal energy with the way that he's finding a date for
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Kat, like he is taking initiative.
I had the exact same thought process.
I was like this feels Pisces vibes but it's way too cardinal.
I think it's gotta be cancer energy.
Yeah, totally. I think maybe both Pisces and
Cancer I. Could I think it could be both
and I can see I can see the Virgo, but I think like just the
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what I get right away is that dreamy Pisces, but he's totally
grounded in the reality of it like.
Something earthy because also there's.
A point where he. Has his standards too, where
he's like, you know what? You were playing me like you
were actually trying to go for this loser, Joey.
Yeah, yeah. And.
His standards were like, I'm done.
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And then she kissed him and he was like, OK, I'm a Pisces
again. I know, but like I totally agree
about that Cardinal. Like he's like, let's make a
plan because I need this to happen and I want it in reality.
And also there's like understanding that family is
such an important part. It's not like, well, screw your
sister, screw your dad, do what you want to do.
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It's like, all right, like let'sfind a solution.
Do. You think he's a Cancer sun or
Cancer moon? I.
Looks like a cancer rising. But he does look like, yeah, I
think I would give him cancer like.
Son. Yeah.
OK. And then maybe Pisces rising.
Maybe Pisces rising that dreamy.Maybe.
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Yeah, like. Immediately when Michael's
giving his awesome tour of the school, he's just like, stop
everything. I burn, I pine, I perish.
Like it's his immediate persona.Yeah, and then what?
Virgo Moon. He doesn't strike me as a Virgo
moon though. Like that's, doesn't he?
Is when he's most. No like safe.
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I don't think he's a Pisces moonthough either.
I guess he could be. Could he be a cancer moon in
Pisces sun in Virgo rising? No.
Maybe Virgo doesn't fit them. Maybe.
It doesn't like what could ground him with standards.
I mean like. Capricorn, and that could be
extra cardinal. And if he's just like a
Capricorn, Capricorn Moon, actually I could see because
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even though like if you put Capricorn sun or Capricorn
rising, that's where you see a lot of that hardness, but he
doesn't have a lot of hardness. Whereas if it's the Moon, you
can actually see that he's just protective.
He's also like, he's been movingaround a lot.
That's part of his thing too, isthat he's been in a whole bunch
of different schools, so I don'tknow where that comes into play,
but it's like he, I think it's his.
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The Pisces energy is good for that.
What? Do you think of Taurus moon?
Yeah. I could see that 'cause he's
pretty certain of his emotions right away.
He's like and then he commits. And you can see how like, yeah,
there is that grounded like it's, yeah.
I don't necessarily get the Capricorn moon because he seems
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not jaded in a way, Yeah. No, he's not skeptical.
Yeah, So what if we do Cancer, Sun, Taurus Moon, Pisces rising.
Let's do. That for now, I like that I
like. That Yeah, Right.
OK what a good deal. Next up, Michael.
OK, Michael's tour of the schoolI love.
I love him. And I think he gives Capricorn
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humor. Like, I think he has this, like,
dry humor that's like old, it's like mature humor that high
schoolers just don't get. But then he also has such
showmanship, like when he has the dirt bike accident down the
hill and when he gets up and he's like, hey.
And like everybody claps for him.
He's like, hell yeah. I don't know.
So I kind of see like some Leo and Capricorn I.
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I see Leo and Capricorn, but I also feel like there is Virgo in
there because I don't, he's like, I'm Oh my God, bogie
Lowenstein. What's a bogie Lowenstein?
I love that so much like that. I don't know, there's something
like he does give Capricorn energy, but I don't get the idea
that he is a Capricorn because he is.
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There's an if he has both Capricorn and Leo, There's so
much ego to that. And I don't feel like he has
that same amount of ego. And I do feel like he's much
more. He's able to go with the flow.
And, and also there, I don't know, there's something about, I
think the Leo is the one that's getting back at Bogey Lowenstein
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and is the one that's standing up from the bike afterwards.
But the Virgo was like, holy fuck.
But there's, yeah, I don't know,I got a little more, I think.
That would be great. I like Virgo, sun, Leo moon Cap
rising for him. I could see that.
Like I think he's an overthinker.
So I love Virgo for him and he'sjust always been a grown up.
Like he said that the last partyhe was at was at Chuck E Cheese.
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And then like when he was hitting on someone, he was like,
I'm thinking of getting a Tersel.
That's a Toyota, one of the safest cars on the market.
And then when he's like, do you think I should lose the tie?
And it's like, yeah, lose the tie, you know?
I love him. Wait, should I do the actor's
top three right after we speak about the characters?
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Let's do that. Yeah.
So tell us about Michael, then we'll go back to Cameron.
OK, so Michael David Krumholtz is the actor.
He's a Taurus Sun and Leo Moon. So that Leo moon so present and
then Earth love. It so good.
And then we don't know his rising because we don't know
what time he was born. And then Joseph Gordon Levitt,
who we assigned Cancer sun, Taurus moon, Pisces rising.
He is an Aquarius sun, Leo moon,Aries rising.
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Oh. Yeah, so a full moon, full moon,
babe. And then I so see Joseph Gordon
Levitt as an Aries rising. Like, you can see it when you
look like, what if you listen toour fire risings and you listen
to the Aries rising? There's just this like,
intensity in the stair. I always think of him with like
a shaved head, which is definitely Aries rising vibes
and just, yeah, I don't know. Do you?
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Think of him with a shaved head.I do, I don't.
Ever. What has he been in with a
shaved head? Oh, just like him, I guess.
I don't really think of him as like an actor in movies.
I just kind of know of him. Like I see more photos of him on
red carpets than I do in films. OK.
All right, interesting. And I.
Feel like he always has a shavedhead.
That is a different perspective than I have, but I think we both
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are noticing his head, which is Aries well.
And very Leo Moon as well with the with the hair, yeah.
So yeah, he's got very fixed energy, which, you know, Leo
moon, Taurus Moon, but very different.
So I mean, maybe that's why he'sa very well known actor, because
he does shape shift quite well. Yeah.
He does because we get such watery, like devoted vibes from
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his character. He's so good.
He's just a good dude. Like is he?
I don't know if he's problematicI.
Just feel like in the I mean hischaracter.
Oh OK yeah, his character is so sweet.
Like good. Yeah.
Next up we have Bianca, which like, I really don't have much
on because she's just so like vapid.
I know you just feel like. Overwhelmed and you can be
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underwhelmed, but can you just be whelmed?
Well, that's her friend, but that's check you can in Europe.
Yeah, I. Happen to like being adored?
Thank you. I mean, I wrote Libra Pisces
energy, but I think there's something potential.
She's Leo. Too she's Leo vibes.
Like in every analysis we do, I feel like there's an archetype
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that's just Libra Leo, which is self involved and vain.
You know which like if you have Libra Leo placements and you're
listening, that doesn't mean that that's you.
Like there are annoying or bad characters in every movie and we
have to assign placements to them.
So if it hurts your feelings, I'm miss trunch bowl.
Like we can both get over it OK if it.
Hurts your feelings. I'm miss Trunch bowl.
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Oh my gosh. Yeah, I wrote so far just vapid,
naive and mean dot dot dot Libra.
Oh my God. I.
Think she, I mean she gives Libra Pisces and Leo for sure,
because there's there's part of her that is really dreamy, like
a fantasy type of world of like,I don't know, I just see that
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Libra plus Pisces element where it's extra not grounded.
But there's I feel like if you're pure Libra energy,
there's so much more flirty if it's just Leo Libra.
Whereas I feel like there is like a creative understanding,
like deeper kind of nature to her.
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And she's connected to herself, like she realizes pretty like
she's not just in it for looks because she realizes very
quickly that Joey sucks like so she's not, you know, I don't
think she's a Libra sun. I would put her as a Pisces sun
and then maybe a Libra moon and a Leo rising.
I. Like that, Yeah, I also.
Think of like how she can't tellanyone that she doesn't like
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them. Like she won't tell Cameron that
she's not into him. She doesn't tell Joey ever.
Like she never really rejects him until she does.
You know, until that Leo fierceness comes out and she
beats the crap out of him to Mr.Morgan's delight.
Like so I. Just I think there's like, yeah,
Leo. Lose the glasses.
Yeah, he's. Fucking crazy.
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OK Pisces son. Libra moon.
Leo rising for Bianca, Yes. And then Larissa Olenik, who
plays Bianca, is a Gemini son inLeo Moon.
Oh my gosh. So we've got the Air and Leo I.
Love that we don't know her rising either.
No, we. Don't know what time she was
born she. Could be giving water rising
just by her appearance. Oh, she could be a cancer
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rising. Yeah, yeah.
OK Next up just before we get toCat, I do have in my notes the
only thing I wrote about Mr. Morgan is Mr. Morgan is
problematic AF. Moving on, I have no notes about
him other than that cat, my favorite.
She's me, I love her. I.
Mean she's an Aries, like yeah. Yeah, she's an Aries.
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She's aggressive, she hates the man, and she hates the concept
of men like I love her. She is I.
I wrote down Aries with some Aquarius and potentially
Scorpio, but I wasn't totally sure.
Perfect, because I just I have quotes here like I don't like to
do what other people expect. That's very Aries, Aquarius,
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what's in it for you? Like as soon as Verona or
Patrick is, you know, showing real interest, she's like what's
in it for you? Like that distrust.
I very much feel like that Scorpio and also like the angle
of Aquarius. And then when she's wasted,
she's just like dances so freely.
I feel like that is, I don't know, Yeah, I feel like that's
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also Aries or a like something about just standing out and not
giving a fuck what other people think.
I would. Put her as an Aries with Scorpio
rising and an Aquarius moon because she got really weird
when she was drunk and we love it.
And like, that's your moon sign.And she, like, you know, at her
core, does not want to do thingsthe conventional way.
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And she's very intelligent. But then that's the inside.
We have to get through Scorpio and Aries before we get to that.
So that's what I would say I do.Wonder like so she has very high
standards and extreme boundaries.
So I wonder then if she I don't know there's something in there
that I feel like I guess that could be Aries and Aquarius of
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having high standards. Aries doesn't really have high
standards but I don't know therewas something very boundaried
about her which I guess could beScorpio and Aquarius.
I would. Think that would be Scorpio and
Aquarius because a Scorpio is very good at keeping people at a
distance. And was it like, there's a
difference between boundaries and like, barricades, like, you
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know? Don't we know someone with this
exact top three? Aries Sun.
Aquarius Moon Scorpio. No, we know someone.
Aquarius son Aries Moon Scorpio,right?
Different order different order very very similar.
This person is also very like hates how like women don't have
this like it's very pro women power in the same type of
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aggressive way she has a. Cause yeah.
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I do have in my notes here
that flashing the coach is fucking crazy.
Oh my. God, the coach is also very
problematic. Coach is extremely problematic
but also cat like but she's a child so you know, you would
hope that the coach would get some shit together.
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OK Next up we've got oh wait OK,Julia Stiles.
We don't have a rising for her even though I want 1 so badly.
But she's an airy sun, Capricornmoon.
Oh, same as us. She is US.
And that's the same. Witherspoon.
Witherspoon. Yeah, yeah.
What do you think Julia Stiles Rising is?
It's definitely something more guarded because Reese
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Witherspoon is a Leo rising and so we really get that like warm
from. Aquarius Rising I.
Could totally see that, yes. Yeah.
I could see that. I want to I want to talk about
the coach for a minute because just thinking like of whenever I
watch this movie, I realize how many lines that like my mom and
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I are just my family and I quotebut like to this day still like
if I'm walking by something, I'll be like I'm countless
getting this, this do and like, what the hell.
Like, I don't, we don't have to put like a full on sign on him,
but like talk about contradictory, like our abuse of
power, you know? And also, yeah, he is like.
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But then I so I just so appreciate the moment where he's
in detention and he leans back on the desk and he's like, ha,
ha, ha. Because he got shot in the butt
with an arrow. Like there's just such
subtleties in this movie where you're like, when you're paying
attention to that, Oh, my God, your eyes are all bloodshot.
You've got pot, don't you? I'm.
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Campus. Campus getting.
This then the Cheetos. Oh yeah, he's a forward thinker,
OK. He has long term goals.
I don't even know what I'd put him, but I just feel like we
needed a moment of respect for that ridiculousness anyways.
OK, Next up Joey and I will say I have two notes written
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separately about Joey. One is Joey sucks and the next
one is Joey's a loser. And that's all I've written
about Joey. No notes.
Damn it Bianca, I'm shooting a nose spray at tomorrow.
He. Sucks he's a loser.
I don't know I didn't I literally couldn't even like
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give him any attention. What are your OK?
Well, Speaking of Miss Crunch Bowl, so my notes are.
Stop, please stop giving me the villains everyone like I get all
the villains. I know what's the.
Other one that I got. I can't remember who it was but
I know that we shit on you so often and I don't think we ever
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give any character as my top three but.
I I got Taurus Leo vibes from him because he really like he's
very fixed. I'm doing this and I'm going to
see it through the end. No is not an answer.
Also, money and status I totallysee.
Him being as a Taurus son. And like.
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On the materialistic just like. Shallow side of.
Taurus. And like Taurus has all of Venus
like, and Venus can be, you know, beauty and all of the soft
sides of Venus, but it could also be the like, you know, my
face matters the most out of anything and I'm prettier than
you type of energy. And so and I.
Also, yeah, I could see him as aLeo rising that puts his Taurus
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sun in the tent. So his looks are his career.
I get it. And but what do we think of his
moon? Like, do we think his moon?
Do we think we even got to see his moon?
I don't think we totally got to see his moon.
I was going to say a Taurus sun and Leo rising.
As far as his moon, I mean, it doesn't seem earthy.
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It doesn't seem watery because Ithink air.
I would think air of anything like maybe.
Maybe Gemini move a little bit like when he does expresses, if
he expresses anything that he feels it's always an idea or as
a concept. It's not like it doesn't make
you feel like he's feeling that.Yeah, I, I don't know that we
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got to know it well enough, but if I had to postulate, I would
say maybe Gemini moon, but definitely Taurus and Leo rising
because, I mean, he's like at the party and everything, you
know, he's just like doing modeling poses and like, do you
like this picture or this picture?
And it's like a black and white shirt and like, and everything
is centered on him. It's very unevolved.
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Leo rising, like everything centered back on him.
And I really just get that Taurus energy where it's like,
yeah, there's something about the Gemini actually unevolved
Gemini, where he's like, money I've got this is what I'm gonna
do for fun. Like that seems like really
unevolved, like I'm just gonna fuck around.
Yeah, yeah. Like a puppeteer vibes, yeah.
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Yeah, what about the actor and. Then the actor Andrew Keegan,
he's an Aquarius sun, Pisces moon, so very different.
I'd love to see an interview of him just like what's his vibe or
like what else has. He been I.
Mean he gives Joey from friends too.
Like yeah, similar, but maybe they just have the same name and
look very Italian. Could be that all?
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Italian joeys. Hey, I'm Italian.
It's OK. Yeah, we're Italian here.
That's fine. Next up, Patrick.
Patrick, OK, I really like the evolution of his character.
I. Know what a good character and
just RIP Heath Ledger. Like Oh my God, one of the best
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scenes of all time. All time when he's singing on
the. Yeah, can't keep my eyes off of
you. Oh.
My God. It was fantastic.
I love his character. So the comment on that is he
uses music for romance. There's got to be Taurus in
there. Oh, he uses music for romance in
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everything. The performance on the
bleachers, the He gets Cat's favorite band at prom, and then
he gifts her a guitar. That is insightful as fuck.
Wouldn't have gotten that and I love it.
What about Taurus rising? He's quite.
Neck check. I think he makes the neck check
but I think. He passes the next check.
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He. Also gives a stoic like or stoic
like. He can give them all.
And it's not Scorpio rising intimidating like every.
He's only intimidating because of the stories that have gone
around. But like Taurus rising would
absolutely be like, yeah, whatever, let them speak.
I know that's not true. And I don't have, I don't care
enough to like ruffle feathers and right that wrong, Yeah.
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Yeah, I, I wanted to put Sagittarius somewhere I think
that it could get totally. It's not a it's not a loud class
clown Sagittarius, but I think it's a Sagittarius that had some
freedom stifle that is a little bit bitter about it.
But then it comes out more and more and can like, you know,
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like can get silly like gets. Goofy on the bleachers and with
the. Paintballs is his.
Smile for everything. Oh my God, paintball.
That first kiss was perfect. God I when I watched it
recently, I just rewound that scene.
I'm like I need it again. I need all of that again while.
You're soaking it because I loveyou.
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You're so fucking cute. Okay, I really like Sach.
Sun for him, yeah. I think, and I think that's it.
Go on. No.
It has to be Sun. He asks good questions like he's
always. He's always asking very
insightful questions too, and heuses his smile for everything.
Whenever there's a pause, he just flashes his smile.
Yep, you know. And I just feel like.
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It's very sad and. He also like there's it's kind
of like, yeah, sure, whatever I need money, I'll go along with
it. That feels very Taurus and sad
and like that, that type of like, yeah, I'll do the thing
because I'm not attached to this.
And then as he becomes more emotionally attached, it's like
this is becoming less fun and a little more sketchy.
But like he also, there was the whole thing where, you know, I
wasn't in jail, I wasn't doing this.
I you know, I was with my uncle and then I was like over here
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and I was over there. Like he kind of has a travel Y
background, and he's also this casual Australian character at a
yeah, Washington school that feels.
Like he just didn't want to do an American accent right.
I. I don't know.
Much like good for him, his accent's not thick.
No, but there is something that I can that just brings a sad
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energy to his character. And and when he talks to Miss
Perky, when he said something like always a pleasure.
And and I don't know, just like there's some sort of like sad
humor of like, yeah, here I am in the office again.
Yeah. See you next time.
Yeah, I don't know. But then I.
Mean we definitely get his moon like we get his soft side.
I I would wonder if he's a cancer moon, like there's
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something really soft about him.And again like there is cardinal
and so far we've only got fixed and mutable in him.
Cancer Moon. I'm I'm trying to is it too
soft? Yeah, maybe like where we would
see that from him? Like where do we see his
softness? Like, Oh my God, I love the, you
know, Cat likes pretty guys. Am I not a pretty guy?
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Are you saying? I'm not pretty like.
That feels very sad too, like excuse me, but like but
delivered in a Taurus Y way. I love that the yeah, I don't
know what that I don't know thatI'd put Cancer moon on it
because Cancer moon, it feels like we'd get so much more from
him. Like emotionally we'd get a
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softer side than maybe Taurus rising sad sun, but I don't
think I don't think we get cancer soft then.
What do you think for a moon? Like do you think cardinal?
Do you think he has no cardinal?Like maybe Libra moon?
Oh, that's interesting. Like when you look at him in the
relationship, he is such a giver.
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Yeah, and he's very caring you. Know what OK yes, because when
OK, maybe I I might take back the Cancer moon.
There is something where when they're at the party and he is
taking care of her and he's likemaking sure that she oh, and.
He won't let her kiss him. Yeah.
It's a different side of like, if it is cancer, it's a
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different side of that. It's not like riding the
emotional wave as much as because I don't feel like he
rides the emotional wave, no. He doesn't, but I think with sad
sun and Taurus rising those really do like balance out what
a Cancer moon's like emotional waves would look like.
Yeah, if it was, if it was an Earth moon, I mean, like, I
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could see him. No, Yeah.
If it was an Earth moon I would probably put Taurus me.
Too, But since we have the Taurus rising, I don't think
which like. No, I don't think he's both
either. But do we think he's a Taurus
moon or a Taurus rising? Like if that's the way he's
showing love. Is taking care.
No, I I I see him as a Taurus rising.
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I see him as like we don't really approach him and because
we don't know. Yeah.
I I we'll put Cancer moon for now.
OK OK. What about Heath Ledger?
Oh, Heath Ledger is an air. Oh wait, holy shit, he's an AIRY
Sun, Cancer, moon, Aries rising.Oh.
My God. Yeah, so he is a Cancer moon and
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then Aries sun in the first withthat Aries rising.
Wait, can we also talk about howPatrick like and cat are very
compatible? Their sons Aries and Sag, their
risings, Taurus and Scorpio and then their moons are in aversion
Aquarius and Cancer, which I feel like he's constantly like,
come on, come on, like be open. She's kind of guarded and I
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love. That oh, I love those together.
Yeah. Oh, how fun.
Yes, I I wanna just do a quick aquick shout out to Miss Perky
and. Also problematic, like the whole
administration of the school is insane.
Keep it in your pants, would you?
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Now scoot. Now Scoot, yeah, she doesn't
really give a fuck. And she's just, she's so like,
say it like it is. She's quite brash, like she's
just like, OK, you know, what you did was wrong.
All right, get out of here. I don't really care.
I just want to get back to writing my smut.
Honestly, I could see her as even like a triple fire.
Like, yeah, with like maybe a little bit of air.
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There's nothing grounded and there's nothing emotional.
No, nothing. Yeah, like, no.
And I don't think it's an Aries because that would be like, I'm
gonna use the fact that I'm powerful.
So I think maybe just Sag and Leo vibes.
Yeah. Yeah, if anything, like maybe a
little wacky Aquarius or Gemini coming in there somewhere.
Yeah, yeah. But yeah, anyways, we love Miss
Perkin. Also, I just love that the name
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was like, yeah, we don't have toreally worry about making her
human. It's perky.
It's perky. Whatever.
OK. And the dad who honestly stole
the show, like he gave me the biggest laugh.
I'm going to have a deep slumberof a father whose daughters
aren't being impregnated like that.
Fucking killed. I'm down, I have the 411 and you
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are not going out and getting jiggy with some boy.
I don't care how dope his ride is, Mom didn't raise no fool.
I love that he was a like that he delivers babies and that was
his whole like that's why he wasso afraid of his daughters
dating. He's just like, I've seen it.
I know and. Like my insurance?
Doesn't cover PMS. And the the filming of that
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where it's the upside down dad over the couch like so good.
But one thing that like this is just a quote that has lived on
from 1999 to present in my family is kissing isn't what
keeps me up to my elbows in placenta all day long.
So. Good.
He had all the good lines. Oh, he was amazing.
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I. Want you to wear the belly,
Daddy, No. Daddy No.
Also like, fantastic parenting. I just love him.
I will say like. Rule 1 no dating until you
graduate. Rule 2 no dating until you
graduate. Like there was nothing else.
He didn't care about anything else.
They said they were going to drink beer at a party.
He like was just no dating. Without fail, any single time I
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have a reason to answer with a single digit 7.
If it's like how many people arecoming, I'll be like 7.
And then I think good because he's doing the like bar like the
the crunches in the backyard of seven.
Good, good, good. Yeah, that was good.
I did that today. I love him.
I don't, I don't know what his signs are.
I I mean, I love, I feel like there's maybe some Cancer, like
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he just loves his daughters so much, but then also maybe some
Capricorn. He's like, there is no breaking
this rule. I don't give a fuck.
Absolutely. I could see like and he is.
Respected. Yeah, Cancer, Capricorn, but
there's also like maybe even Aries, like there's sass.
Like there is such and it's dry sass.
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It's like delivered with spark. And yeah, I mean, yeah, I don't
know. So he's just.
Cardinal as fuck. Yeah, Cancer, Capricorn, Aries.
And he does like he, Oh my God, like at the end too, when he's
like, you know, don't tell me you change your mind.
I already sent the check. And it was.
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Like, no, that hit me in the father issues.
Yeah, yeah. Father issues.
Why not? Daddy issues?
That's very formal. My formal father issues.
That's really, really hurt. The father issues.
Anyway, Yeah, that was very precious.
I loved that. I loved that scene.
It's this movie is just so good.I love the comment that you made
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about Patrick with the like displaying love in musical form.
Yeah, Oh. My God, so good.
OK. Also Shadow, I can't remember if
it was Joey or Patrick who said like what does she have beer
flavored nipples? And that that also tickled me.
I think it was, I think it was Patrick, because the actor it.
Was Patrick? Yeah, yes.
Because then Joseph Gordon Love was like, don't say that about
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her. Like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
She got like some beer flavored nipples.
That was the Zedge. That was the Zedge.
So inventive. Amazing.
No? I really enjoyed this movie.
I was so glad that we did this one.
This is so fun and like my gosh,I'm thinking I forgot Larry.
Miller, the actor for Dad. He's a Libra Sun, Capricorn Moon
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again Cardinal. We are on it with like.
Yeah, this cast has a lot of Aries, a lot of Leo, a lot of
Taurus and a lot of Capricorn. Actually, it pretty
well-rounded. There's a fair amount of
everything, but I would say a lot of Leo and Aries for the
most part. This cast is epic, Like
everybody played the perfect role, Yeah.
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It's so wild. I just always, I mean, I know
everyone probably has this experience, but like when you
see actors that you know now like just so young, such babies,
like Julia Stiles was just such a child in that I don't know how
old. Well, she's 44 now and that was
in 1999, so 26 years ago. So she was like 18, right?
Is that the math you're? The math brain man on Yeah, so
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it was 20. It was she.
Wow, I'm proud of myself. She was 18 when we when we
filmed it. How old were you in 99?
I was. Five, I was the executive
director anyway. My gosh, she was so young.
I. I love this movie.
I love everything about it. I mean, yes, there's some I
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guess just problematic commentary that comes with the
times of 1999. But I I could watch this over
and over again. In fact, I did for many, many
yes moments of my childhood. Thank you guys for listening.
Let us know if you are any of these characters, top three as
well, and if you resonate with those characters.
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And if you've never watched the movie, you definitely should.
I don't think we spoiled anything and if we did, watch it
anyway. And if you're a big fan, let us
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listening. Thanks for listening.
Let us know what other analysis you might be interested in.
And if this did please you, we have a whole bunch of analysis
that are already out, including things like She's the Man and
Mamma Mia Titanic. Yeah.
So we've got a lot of fun episodes where we just kind of
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speculate what what their signs could be.
And yeah, and it's a good time. So thanks for being here.
And yeah, maybe why don't we discuss 10 things I hate about
you today? Because the stars made us do it.
The stars made me do it. Welcome back to the Stars Made
Me Do It. And today, we're going to
discuss the 10 things that we hate about each other.
I'm ready. Finally.
One public space for me to share.
(00:31):
Call back a real OG call back. I'm so excited.
We're doing an analysis for 10 Things I Hate About You, which
just like classic classic. Team movie.
Such a Sierra movie. Like I had never seen this
before. I watched it last night as
research. Wait, I'm sorry, what?
I had never seen it. I thought I had because I've
(00:53):
seen the scene where Julia Stiles is on the porch with her
Papa. I'm like gonna need to edit out
some of my shock. Like what?
Yeah, I guess it just like Slipped 1999.
I just wonder like what other movies came out then that I was
probably watching instead. This was one of those movies
(01:16):
there was like my cousins would visit in the summer and every
summer we kind of had like an obsessive movie and like 1
summer, it was the third Harry Potter.
Like we would just watch that like everyday type of thing.
And there was 1 summer where it was 10 things I hate about you.
Like we would just watch it overand over and over again.
So I, I did watch this movie actually like 2 weeks ago just
(01:38):
for funsies, like just on my own, like during my lunch breaks
throughout the week. And so I was like, yeah, no, I
don't really need to fully rewatch it.
I I mean I have the entire moviememorized and I just watched it
recently but I literally had this entire their movie
memorized my God. Yeah, I know.
So it was a good watch too. I really did enjoy.
It it's just so it's such a golden era of teen movie time.
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Yeah, and also it's another classic.
There were some moments that really made me cringe.
I was like like the boys in thismovie.
I know. And also Mr. Morgan was I
watched this with my mom who's aretired teacher.
Like she was a teacher for over 3 decades.
And every time that Mister Morgan was on the screen, we
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were just like, what's this guy doing in a classroom?
Like he's so problematic just telling his student to shut the
fuck up. Like whenever he.
Wants so problematic. I know, I know.
But like this is also another great example.
Just like she's the man of modern movies that are based off
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of Shakespeare. And so you like you just it's it
like, that's why it's a classic.Yeah, which I didn't realize
either until like halfway through the movie and my mom
mentioned it. I was like, yeah, you're so
right. Yes.
And like, and they have like thenotes to Shakespeare in it too,
you know. Yeah, yeah.
OK, so if you're new here and you've never listened to an
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analysis, basically what we do is we go through the characters,
we talk about their qualities and we give them, we kind of
assign them a chart based off what we think.
And then we also look at the actor, so comparing the actor to
the character. Yeah, I mean, this is just like
one of my favorite things about astrology and what like really
inspired this podcast like way back in the day of just being
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like, Oh my God, this character,what would they be?
Would they be a Pisces? Would they be a Leo?
Would they be like, so I just I,I do this naturally watching
anything ever just trying to guess what their signs are.
And it's so much fun to do it with.
You get to hear feedback from listeners and friends.
And I love like my my friends who do listen to this podcast.
(03:50):
They especially love the analysis episodes and I will get
messages from them being like, Itotally see why you said that.
So and so was this sign like I just cuz we have such this.
Like, I can't believe you gave it, Bianca.
Oh, my God. Bianca I.
Know I know when you like have the same signs as the ones we
give the characters. It's like, no shade, but you're
Mrs. Crunch Bowl. Yeah.
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Cool. Well, let's let's.
Do it. Yeah, let's get into it.
Should we start with Cameron Little Joseph Gordon Lovett.
What a baby. Baby Joseph Gordon Lovett like.
He's an infant. So.
Good. OK, I burn, I pine, I perish.
Like such a little romantic so. And I also like he's so in love
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with Bianca's purity, like the idea of her purity.
So with that, I give kind of Pisces Virgo vibes.
Like such a romantic. I would say that's the Pisces of
just like completely dissolving himself and just being so in
love and loving Bianca's just like cleanliness and purity.
I think I see that access a lot.But then I also really see like
cardinal energy with the way that he's finding a date for
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Kat, like he is taking initiative.
I had the exact same thought process.
I was like this feels Pisces vibes but it's way too cardinal.
I think it's gotta be cancer energy.
Yeah, totally. I think maybe both Pisces and
Cancer I. Could I think it could be both
and I can see I can see the Virgo, but I think like just the
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what I get right away is that dreamy Pisces, but he's totally
grounded in the reality of it like.
Something earthy because also there's.
A point where he. Has his standards too, where
he's like, you know what? You were playing me like you
were actually trying to go for this loser, Joey.
Yeah, yeah. And.
His standards were like, I'm done.
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And then she kissed him and he was like, OK, I'm a Pisces
again. I know, but like I totally agree
about that Cardinal. Like he's like, let's make a
plan because I need this to happen and I want it in reality.
And also there's like understanding that family is
such an important part. It's not like, well, screw your
sister, screw your dad, do what you want to do.
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It's like, all right, like let'sfind a solution.
Do. You think he's a Cancer sun or
Cancer moon? I.
Looks like a cancer rising. But he does look like, yeah, I
think I would give him cancer like.
Son. Yeah.
OK. And then maybe Pisces rising.
Maybe Pisces rising that dreamy.Maybe.
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Yeah, like. Immediately when Michael's
giving his awesome tour of the school, he's just like, stop
everything. I burn, I pine, I perish.
Like it's his immediate persona.Yeah, and then what?
Virgo Moon. He doesn't strike me as a Virgo
moon though. Like that's, doesn't he?
Is when he's most. No like safe.
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I don't think he's a Pisces moonthough either.
I guess he could be. Could he be a cancer moon in
Pisces sun in Virgo rising? No.
Maybe Virgo doesn't fit them. Maybe.
It doesn't like what could ground him with standards.
I mean like. Capricorn, and that could be
extra cardinal. And if he's just like a
Capricorn, Capricorn Moon, actually I could see because
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even though like if you put Capricorn sun or Capricorn
rising, that's where you see a lot of that hardness, but he
doesn't have a lot of hardness. Whereas if it's the Moon, you
can actually see that he's just protective.
He's also like, he's been movingaround a lot.
That's part of his thing too, isthat he's been in a whole bunch
of different schools, so I don'tknow where that comes into play,
but it's like he, I think it's his.
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The Pisces energy is good for that.
What? Do you think of Taurus moon?
Yeah. I could see that 'cause he's
pretty certain of his emotions right away.
He's like and then he commits. And you can see how like, yeah,
there is that grounded like it's, yeah.
I don't necessarily get the Capricorn moon because he seems
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not jaded in a way, Yeah. No, he's not skeptical.
Yeah, So what if we do Cancer, Sun, Taurus Moon, Pisces rising.
Let's do. That for now, I like that I
like. That Yeah, Right.
OK what a good deal. Next up, Michael.
OK, Michael's tour of the schoolI love.
I love him. And I think he gives Capricorn
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humor. Like, I think he has this, like,
dry humor that's like old, it's like mature humor that high
schoolers just don't get. But then he also has such
showmanship, like when he has the dirt bike accident down the
hill and when he gets up and he's like, hey.
And like everybody claps for him.
He's like, hell yeah. I don't know.
So I kind of see like some Leo and Capricorn I.
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I see Leo and Capricorn, but I also feel like there is Virgo in
there because I don't, he's like, I'm Oh my God, bogie
Lowenstein. What's a bogie Lowenstein?
I love that so much like that. I don't know, there's something
like he does give Capricorn energy, but I don't get the idea
that he is a Capricorn because he is.
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There's an if he has both Capricorn and Leo, There's so
much ego to that. And I don't feel like he has
that same amount of ego. And I do feel like he's much
more. He's able to go with the flow.
And, and also there, I don't know, there's something about, I
think the Leo is the one that's getting back at Bogey Lowenstein
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and is the one that's standing up from the bike afterwards.
But the Virgo was like, holy fuck.
But there's, yeah, I don't know,I got a little more, I think.
That would be great. I like Virgo, sun, Leo moon Cap
rising for him. I could see that.
Like I think he's an overthinker.
So I love Virgo for him and he'sjust always been a grown up.
Like he said that the last partyhe was at was at Chuck E Cheese.
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And then like when he was hitting on someone, he was like,
I'm thinking of getting a Tersel.
That's a Toyota, one of the safest cars on the market.
And then when he's like, do you think I should lose the tie?
And it's like, yeah, lose the tie, you know?
I love him. Wait, should I do the actor's
top three right after we speak about the characters?
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Let's do that. Yeah.
So tell us about Michael, then we'll go back to Cameron.
OK, so Michael David Krumholtz is the actor.
He's a Taurus Sun and Leo Moon. So that Leo moon so present and
then Earth love. It so good.
And then we don't know his rising because we don't know
what time he was born. And then Joseph Gordon Levitt,
who we assigned Cancer sun, Taurus moon, Pisces rising.
He is an Aquarius sun, Leo moon,Aries rising.
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Oh. Yeah, so a full moon, full moon,
babe. And then I so see Joseph Gordon
Levitt as an Aries rising. Like, you can see it when you
look like, what if you listen toour fire risings and you listen
to the Aries rising? There's just this like,
intensity in the stair. I always think of him with like
a shaved head, which is definitely Aries rising vibes
and just, yeah, I don't know. Do you?
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Think of him with a shaved head.I do, I don't.
Ever. What has he been in with a
shaved head? Oh, just like him, I guess.
I don't really think of him as like an actor in movies.
I just kind of know of him. Like I see more photos of him on
red carpets than I do in films. OK.
All right, interesting. And I.
Feel like he always has a shavedhead.
That is a different perspective than I have, but I think we both
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are noticing his head, which is Aries well.
And very Leo Moon as well with the with the hair, yeah.
So yeah, he's got very fixed energy, which, you know, Leo
moon, Taurus Moon, but very different.
So I mean, maybe that's why he'sa very well known actor, because
he does shape shift quite well. Yeah.
He does because we get such watery, like devoted vibes from
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his character. He's so good.
He's just a good dude. Like is he?
I don't know if he's problematicI.
Just feel like in the I mean hischaracter.
Oh OK yeah, his character is so sweet.
Like good. Yeah.
Next up we have Bianca, which like, I really don't have much
on because she's just so like vapid.
I know you just feel like. Overwhelmed and you can be
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underwhelmed, but can you just be whelmed?
Well, that's her friend, but that's check you can in Europe.
Yeah, I. Happen to like being adored?
Thank you. I mean, I wrote Libra Pisces
energy, but I think there's something potential.
She's Leo. Too she's Leo vibes.
Like in every analysis we do, I feel like there's an archetype
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that's just Libra Leo, which is self involved and vain.
You know which like if you have Libra Leo placements and you're
listening, that doesn't mean that that's you.
Like there are annoying or bad characters in every movie and we
have to assign placements to them.
So if it hurts your feelings, I'm miss trunch bowl.
Like we can both get over it OK if it.
Hurts your feelings. I'm miss Trunch bowl.
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Oh my gosh. Yeah, I wrote so far just vapid,
naive and mean dot dot dot Libra.
Oh my God. I.
Think she, I mean she gives Libra Pisces and Leo for sure,
because there's there's part of her that is really dreamy, like
a fantasy type of world of like,I don't know, I just see that
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Libra plus Pisces element where it's extra not grounded.
But there's I feel like if you're pure Libra energy,
there's so much more flirty if it's just Leo Libra.
Whereas I feel like there is like a creative understanding,
like deeper kind of nature to her.
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And she's connected to herself, like she realizes pretty like
she's not just in it for looks because she realizes very
quickly that Joey sucks like so she's not, you know, I don't
think she's a Libra sun. I would put her as a Pisces sun
and then maybe a Libra moon and a Leo rising.
I. Like that, Yeah, I also.
Think of like how she can't tellanyone that she doesn't like
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them. Like she won't tell Cameron that
she's not into him. She doesn't tell Joey ever.
Like she never really rejects him until she does.
You know, until that Leo fierceness comes out and she
beats the crap out of him to Mr.Morgan's delight.
Like so I. Just I think there's like, yeah,
Leo. Lose the glasses.
Yeah, he's. Fucking crazy.
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OK Pisces son. Libra moon.
Leo rising for Bianca, Yes. And then Larissa Olenik, who
plays Bianca, is a Gemini son inLeo Moon.
Oh my gosh. So we've got the Air and Leo I.
Love that we don't know her rising either.
No, we. Don't know what time she was
born she. Could be giving water rising
just by her appearance. Oh, she could be a cancer
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rising. Yeah, yeah.
OK Next up just before we get toCat, I do have in my notes the
only thing I wrote about Mr. Morgan is Mr. Morgan is
problematic AF. Moving on, I have no notes about
him other than that cat, my favorite.
She's me, I love her. I.
Mean she's an Aries, like yeah. Yeah, she's an Aries.
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She's aggressive, she hates the man, and she hates the concept
of men like I love her. She is I.
I wrote down Aries with some Aquarius and potentially
Scorpio, but I wasn't totally sure.
Perfect, because I just I have quotes here like I don't like to
do what other people expect. That's very Aries, Aquarius,
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what's in it for you? Like as soon as Verona or
Patrick is, you know, showing real interest, she's like what's
in it for you? Like that distrust.
I very much feel like that Scorpio and also like the angle
of Aquarius. And then when she's wasted,
she's just like dances so freely.
I feel like that is, I don't know, Yeah, I feel like that's
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also Aries or a like something about just standing out and not
giving a fuck what other people think.
I would. Put her as an Aries with Scorpio
rising and an Aquarius moon because she got really weird
when she was drunk and we love it.
And like, that's your moon sign.And she, like, you know, at her
core, does not want to do thingsthe conventional way.
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And she's very intelligent. But then that's the inside.
We have to get through Scorpio and Aries before we get to that.
So that's what I would say I do.Wonder like so she has very high
standards and extreme boundaries.
So I wonder then if she I don't know there's something in there
that I feel like I guess that could be Aries and Aquarius of
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having high standards. Aries doesn't really have high
standards but I don't know therewas something very boundaried
about her which I guess could beScorpio and Aquarius.
I would. Think that would be Scorpio and
Aquarius because a Scorpio is very good at keeping people at a
distance. And was it like, there's a
difference between boundaries and like, barricades, like, you
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know? Don't we know someone with this
exact top three? Aries Sun.
Aquarius Moon Scorpio. No, we know someone.
Aquarius son Aries Moon Scorpio,right?
Different order different order very very similar.
This person is also very like hates how like women don't have
this like it's very pro women power in the same type of
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aggressive way she has a. Cause yeah.
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I do have in my notes here
that flashing the coach is fucking crazy.
Oh my. God, the coach is also very
problematic. Coach is extremely problematic
but also cat like but she's a child so you know, you would
hope that the coach would get some shit together.
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OK Next up we've got oh wait OK,Julia Stiles.
We don't have a rising for her even though I want 1 so badly.
But she's an airy sun, Capricornmoon.
Oh, same as us. She is US.
And that's the same. Witherspoon.
Witherspoon. Yeah, yeah.
What do you think Julia Stiles Rising is?
It's definitely something more guarded because Reese
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Witherspoon is a Leo rising and so we really get that like warm
from. Aquarius Rising I.
Could totally see that, yes. Yeah.
I could see that. I want to I want to talk about
the coach for a minute because just thinking like of whenever I
watch this movie, I realize how many lines that like my mom and
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I are just my family and I quotebut like to this day still like
if I'm walking by something, I'll be like I'm countless
getting this, this do and like, what the hell.
Like, I don't, we don't have to put like a full on sign on him,
but like talk about contradictory, like our abuse of
power, you know? And also, yeah, he is like.
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But then I so I just so appreciate the moment where he's
in detention and he leans back on the desk and he's like, ha,
ha, ha. Because he got shot in the butt
with an arrow. Like there's just such
subtleties in this movie where you're like, when you're paying
attention to that, Oh, my God, your eyes are all bloodshot.
You've got pot, don't you? I'm.
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Campus. Campus getting.
This then the Cheetos. Oh yeah, he's a forward thinker,
OK. He has long term goals.
I don't even know what I'd put him, but I just feel like we
needed a moment of respect for that ridiculousness anyways.
OK, Next up Joey and I will say I have two notes written
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separately about Joey. One is Joey sucks and the next
one is Joey's a loser. And that's all I've written
about Joey. No notes.
Damn it Bianca, I'm shooting a nose spray at tomorrow.
He. Sucks he's a loser.
I don't know I didn't I literally couldn't even like
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give him any attention. What are your OK?
Well, Speaking of Miss Crunch Bowl, so my notes are.
Stop, please stop giving me the villains everyone like I get all
the villains. I know what's the.
Other one that I got. I can't remember who it was but
I know that we shit on you so often and I don't think we ever
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give any character as my top three but.
I I got Taurus Leo vibes from him because he really like he's
very fixed. I'm doing this and I'm going to
see it through the end. No is not an answer.
Also, money and status I totallysee.
Him being as a Taurus son. And like.
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On the materialistic just like. Shallow side of.
Taurus. And like Taurus has all of Venus
like, and Venus can be, you know, beauty and all of the soft
sides of Venus, but it could also be the like, you know, my
face matters the most out of anything and I'm prettier than
you type of energy. And so and I.
Also, yeah, I could see him as aLeo rising that puts his Taurus
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sun in the tent. So his looks are his career.
I get it. And but what do we think of his
moon? Like, do we think his moon?
Do we think we even got to see his moon?
I don't think we totally got to see his moon.
I was going to say a Taurus sun and Leo rising.
As far as his moon, I mean, it doesn't seem earthy.
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It doesn't seem watery because Ithink air.
I would think air of anything like maybe.
Maybe Gemini move a little bit like when he does expresses, if
he expresses anything that he feels it's always an idea or as
a concept. It's not like it doesn't make
you feel like he's feeling that.Yeah, I, I don't know that we
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got to know it well enough, but if I had to postulate, I would
say maybe Gemini moon, but definitely Taurus and Leo rising
because, I mean, he's like at the party and everything, you
know, he's just like doing modeling poses and like, do you
like this picture or this picture?
And it's like a black and white shirt and like, and everything
is centered on him. It's very unevolved.
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Leo rising, like everything centered back on him.
And I really just get that Taurus energy where it's like,
yeah, there's something about the Gemini actually unevolved
Gemini, where he's like, money I've got this is what I'm gonna
do for fun. Like that seems like really
unevolved, like I'm just gonna fuck around.
Yeah, yeah. Like a puppeteer vibes, yeah.
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Yeah, what about the actor and. Then the actor Andrew Keegan,
he's an Aquarius sun, Pisces moon, so very different.
I'd love to see an interview of him just like what's his vibe or
like what else has. He been I.
Mean he gives Joey from friends too.
Like yeah, similar, but maybe they just have the same name and
look very Italian. Could be that all?
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Italian joeys. Hey, I'm Italian.
It's OK. Yeah, we're Italian here.
That's fine. Next up, Patrick.
Patrick, OK, I really like the evolution of his character.
I. Know what a good character and
just RIP Heath Ledger. Like Oh my God, one of the best
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scenes of all time. All time when he's singing on
the. Yeah, can't keep my eyes off of
you. Oh.
My God. It was fantastic.
I love his character. So the comment on that is he
uses music for romance. There's got to be Taurus in
there. Oh, he uses music for romance in
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everything. The performance on the
bleachers, the He gets Cat's favorite band at prom, and then
he gifts her a guitar. That is insightful as fuck.
Wouldn't have gotten that and I love it.
What about Taurus rising? He's quite.
Neck check. I think he makes the neck check
but I think. He passes the next check.
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He. Also gives a stoic like or stoic
like. He can give them all.
And it's not Scorpio rising intimidating like every.
He's only intimidating because of the stories that have gone
around. But like Taurus rising would
absolutely be like, yeah, whatever, let them speak.
I know that's not true. And I don't have, I don't care
enough to like ruffle feathers and right that wrong, Yeah.
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Yeah, I, I wanted to put Sagittarius somewhere I think
that it could get totally. It's not a it's not a loud class
clown Sagittarius, but I think it's a Sagittarius that had some
freedom stifle that is a little bit bitter about it.
But then it comes out more and more and can like, you know,
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like can get silly like gets. Goofy on the bleachers and with
the. Paintballs is his.
Smile for everything. Oh my God, paintball.
That first kiss was perfect. God I when I watched it
recently, I just rewound that scene.
I'm like I need it again. I need all of that again while.
You're soaking it because I loveyou.
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You're so fucking cute. Okay, I really like Sach.
Sun for him, yeah. I think, and I think that's it.
Go on. No.
It has to be Sun. He asks good questions like he's
always. He's always asking very
insightful questions too, and heuses his smile for everything.
Whenever there's a pause, he just flashes his smile.
Yep, you know. And I just feel like.
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It's very sad and. He also like there's it's kind
of like, yeah, sure, whatever I need money, I'll go along with
it. That feels very Taurus and sad
and like that, that type of like, yeah, I'll do the thing
because I'm not attached to this.
And then as he becomes more emotionally attached, it's like
this is becoming less fun and a little more sketchy.
But like he also, there was the whole thing where, you know, I
wasn't in jail, I wasn't doing this.
I you know, I was with my uncle and then I was like over here
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and I was over there. Like he kind of has a travel Y
background, and he's also this casual Australian character at a
yeah, Washington school that feels.
Like he just didn't want to do an American accent right.
I. I don't know.
Much like good for him, his accent's not thick.
No, but there is something that I can that just brings a sad
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energy to his character. And and when he talks to Miss
Perky, when he said something like always a pleasure.
And and I don't know, just like there's some sort of like sad
humor of like, yeah, here I am in the office again.
Yeah. See you next time.
Yeah, I don't know. But then I.
Mean we definitely get his moon like we get his soft side.
I I would wonder if he's a cancer moon, like there's
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something really soft about him.And again like there is cardinal
and so far we've only got fixed and mutable in him.
Cancer Moon. I'm I'm trying to is it too
soft? Yeah, maybe like where we would
see that from him? Like where do we see his
softness? Like, Oh my God, I love the, you
know, Cat likes pretty guys. Am I not a pretty guy?
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Are you saying? I'm not pretty like.
That feels very sad too, like excuse me, but like but
delivered in a Taurus Y way. I love that the yeah, I don't
know what that I don't know thatI'd put Cancer moon on it
because Cancer moon, it feels like we'd get so much more from
him. Like emotionally we'd get a
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softer side than maybe Taurus rising sad sun, but I don't
think I don't think we get cancer soft then.
What do you think for a moon? Like do you think cardinal?
Do you think he has no cardinal?Like maybe Libra moon?
Oh, that's interesting. Like when you look at him in the
relationship, he is such a giver.
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Yeah, and he's very caring you. Know what OK yes, because when
OK, maybe I I might take back the Cancer moon.
There is something where when they're at the party and he is
taking care of her and he's likemaking sure that she oh, and.
He won't let her kiss him. Yeah.
It's a different side of like, if it is cancer, it's a
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different side of that. It's not like riding the
emotional wave as much as because I don't feel like he
rides the emotional wave, no. He doesn't, but I think with sad
sun and Taurus rising those really do like balance out what
a Cancer moon's like emotional waves would look like.
Yeah, if it was, if it was an Earth moon, I mean, like, I
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could see him. No, Yeah.
If it was an Earth moon I would probably put Taurus me.
Too, But since we have the Taurus rising, I don't think
which like. No, I don't think he's both
either. But do we think he's a Taurus
moon or a Taurus rising? Like if that's the way he's
showing love. Is taking care.
No, I I I see him as a Taurus rising.
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I see him as like we don't really approach him and because
we don't know. Yeah.
I I we'll put Cancer moon for now.
OK OK. What about Heath Ledger?
Oh, Heath Ledger is an air. Oh wait, holy shit, he's an AIRY
Sun, Cancer, moon, Aries rising.Oh.
My God. Yeah, so he is a Cancer moon and
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then Aries sun in the first withthat Aries rising.
Wait, can we also talk about howPatrick like and cat are very
compatible? Their sons Aries and Sag, their
risings, Taurus and Scorpio and then their moons are in aversion
Aquarius and Cancer, which I feel like he's constantly like,
come on, come on, like be open. She's kind of guarded and I
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love. That oh, I love those together.
Yeah. Oh, how fun.
Yes, I I wanna just do a quick aquick shout out to Miss Perky
and. Also problematic, like the whole
administration of the school is insane.
Keep it in your pants, would you?
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Now scoot. Now Scoot, yeah, she doesn't
really give a fuck. And she's just, she's so like,
say it like it is. She's quite brash, like she's
just like, OK, you know, what you did was wrong.
All right, get out of here. I don't really care.
I just want to get back to writing my smut.
Honestly, I could see her as even like a triple fire.
Like, yeah, with like maybe a little bit of air.
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There's nothing grounded and there's nothing emotional.
No, nothing. Yeah, like, no.
And I don't think it's an Aries because that would be like, I'm
gonna use the fact that I'm powerful.
So I think maybe just Sag and Leo vibes.
Yeah. Yeah, if anything, like maybe a
little wacky Aquarius or Gemini coming in there somewhere.
Yeah, yeah. But yeah, anyways, we love Miss
Perkin. Also, I just love that the name
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was like, yeah, we don't have toreally worry about making her
human. It's perky.
It's perky. Whatever.
OK. And the dad who honestly stole
the show, like he gave me the biggest laugh.
I'm going to have a deep slumberof a father whose daughters
aren't being impregnated like that.
Fucking killed. I'm down, I have the 411 and you
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are not going out and getting jiggy with some boy.
I don't care how dope his ride is, Mom didn't raise no fool.
I love that he was a like that he delivers babies and that was
his whole like that's why he wasso afraid of his daughters
dating. He's just like, I've seen it.
I know and. Like my insurance?
Doesn't cover PMS. And the the filming of that
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where it's the upside down dad over the couch like so good.
But one thing that like this is just a quote that has lived on
from 1999 to present in my family is kissing isn't what
keeps me up to my elbows in placenta all day long.
So. Good.
He had all the good lines. Oh, he was amazing.
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I. Want you to wear the belly,
Daddy, No. Daddy No.
Also like, fantastic parenting. I just love him.
I will say like. Rule 1 no dating until you
graduate. Rule 2 no dating until you
graduate. Like there was nothing else.
He didn't care about anything else.
They said they were going to drink beer at a party.
He like was just no dating. Without fail, any single time I
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have a reason to answer with a single digit 7.
If it's like how many people arecoming, I'll be like 7.
And then I think good because he's doing the like bar like the
the crunches in the backyard of seven.
Good, good, good. Yeah, that was good.
I did that today. I love him.
I don't, I don't know what his signs are.
I I mean, I love, I feel like there's maybe some Cancer, like
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he just loves his daughters so much, but then also maybe some
Capricorn. He's like, there is no breaking
this rule. I don't give a fuck.
Absolutely. I could see like and he is.
Respected. Yeah, Cancer, Capricorn, but
there's also like maybe even Aries, like there's sass.
Like there is such and it's dry sass.
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It's like delivered with spark. And yeah, I mean, yeah, I don't
know. So he's just.
Cardinal as fuck. Yeah, Cancer, Capricorn, Aries.
And he does like he, Oh my God, like at the end too, when he's
like, you know, don't tell me you change your mind.
I already sent the check. And it was.
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Like, no, that hit me in the father issues.
Yeah, yeah. Father issues.
Why not? Daddy issues?
That's very formal. My formal father issues.
That's really, really hurt. The father issues.
Anyway, Yeah, that was very precious.
I loved that. I loved that scene.
It's this movie is just so good.I love the comment that you made
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about Patrick with the like displaying love in musical form.
Yeah, Oh. My God, so good.
OK. Also Shadow, I can't remember if
it was Joey or Patrick who said like what does she have beer
flavored nipples? And that that also tickled me.
I think it was, I think it was Patrick, because the actor it.
Was Patrick? Yeah, yes.
Because then Joseph Gordon Love was like, don't say that about
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her. Like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
She got like some beer flavored nipples.
That was the Zedge. That was the Zedge.
So inventive. Amazing.
No? I really enjoyed this movie.
I was so glad that we did this one.
This is so fun and like my gosh,I'm thinking I forgot Larry.
Miller, the actor for Dad. He's a Libra Sun, Capricorn Moon
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again Cardinal. We are on it with like.
Yeah, this cast has a lot of Aries, a lot of Leo, a lot of
Taurus and a lot of Capricorn. Actually, it pretty
well-rounded. There's a fair amount of
everything, but I would say a lot of Leo and Aries for the
most part. This cast is epic, Like
everybody played the perfect role, Yeah.
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It's so wild. I just always, I mean, I know
everyone probably has this experience, but like when you
see actors that you know now like just so young, such babies,
like Julia Stiles was just such a child in that I don't know how
old. Well, she's 44 now and that was
in 1999, so 26 years ago. So she was like 18, right?
Is that the math you're? The math brain man on Yeah, so
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it was 20. It was she.
Wow, I'm proud of myself. She was 18 when we when we
filmed it. How old were you in 99?
I was. Five, I was the executive
director anyway. My gosh, she was so young.
I. I love this movie.
I love everything about it. I mean, yes, there's some I
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guess just problematic commentary that comes with the
times of 1999. But I I could watch this over
and over again. In fact, I did for many, many
yes moments of my childhood. Thank you guys for listening.
Let us know if you are any of these characters, top three as
well, and if you resonate with those characters.
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And if you've never watched the movie, you definitely should.
I don't think we spoiled anything and if we did, watch it
anyway. And if you're a big fan, let us
know. If you also thought these
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versions. And yeah, thanks so much for
listening. Thanks for listening.
Let us know what other analysis you might be interested in.
And if this did please you, we have a whole bunch of analysis
that are already out, including things like She's the Man and
Mamma Mia Titanic. Yeah.
So we've got a lot of fun episodes where we just kind of
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speculate what what their signs could be.
And yeah, and it's a good time. So thanks for being here.
And yeah, maybe why don't we discuss 10 things I hate about
you today? Because the stars made us do it.
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