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August 5, 2024 • 18 mins

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Ever wondered why cultural trends started by Black creatives often go unrecognized? This throwback episode explores this.

Inspired by my experience at Culture Con, a gathering celebrating Black creatives, we'll embark on a conversation about cultural appreciation and the global impact of Black culture. It's time to address the importance of giving credit where it's due and the harm of cultural appropriation. From the mislabeling of cornrows to the significance of silk presses, we'll highlight the need for authentic representation and education in arts. Let's push for intentional cultural trends and ensure that the originators are celebrated and given opportunities to thrive. Tune in for a thought-provoking discussion on harnessing cultural trends to foster genuine growth and appreciation.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We set the trend.
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Thank you guys, so much foryour support.
Hello, hello, my peoples.
How are you doing?
Okay, I'm not talking no more.
It's Mikayla of the Style andVibes podcast.
Welcome to episode 13.
Today it's just me and I'mtalking about cultural currency.
I'll get into why I chose thistopic and how I got inspired by

(01:10):
it in a second, but I wanted tointroduce a little segment in
the beginning of the podcastjust to share what I'm styling
on, what I'm vibing to and justgive you guys kind of an
overview of, you know, justthings that are on my mind as
I'm recording in.
You know the time that I'mrecording, so right now I'm

(01:32):
really styling.
I have I have such a huge crushon Tracy Ellis Ross.
She recently hosted theAmerican Music Awards and she
wore all black designersincluding Pyre, who is of
Haitian descent, and Kushni, whois of Brit Jamaican descent and
I loved the idea of her reallyjust wanting to be mindful about

(01:55):
sharing the talent from, youknow, the black community, and
not just reaching for the sameones that we know, and I think
it is an amazing example.
And I think a lot morecelebrities are doing this
because they see how much of atalent pool that is there that

(02:16):
is kind of not always supportedconsciously.
So I think it was a greatinitiative and I commend her for
it.
So she is my style uh, stylecrush for this podcast.
Um, she's doing amazing things,she has great taste and style
and and I just love everythingabout her.
But kudos to tracy ellis rossfor rocking all black designers,

(02:40):
including a few from thecaribbean.
So right now, I've been vibingto a lot.
If you check outstylingvibescom, we do a vibes
of the week almost every week,so I've been listening to a lot
of new music.
We've been, just, you know,hearing a lot of great music
come out of, you know, theCaribbean and Africa and Europe.

(03:02):
So we're just kind of, you know, putting that all in a pot and
kind of sharing.
Hopefully I'll get someplaylists up pretty soon with
some of those and share thatwith you.
But there have been a lot ofgreat albums that have dropped
recently.
Estelle's Lovers Rock has kindof been in rotation.

(03:22):
I like a few of the songs Iespecially like better and I
also like the one with lukejames.
Oh, luke james sounds her andluke james sounds so great on
that record.
And what I love about thatrecord is, you know, sometimes
when artists kind of crossgenres, it doesn't sound
authentic but it really soundslike them.
It sounds like an R&B reggae, atrue blend of R&B and reggae,

(03:48):
and I think it it really justsounds very, so well like the
two of them complement eachother so much and it sounds
amazing.
Um, of course, also listening to, uh, the legend, barris Hammond
.
I actually, you know, saw aninterview where he said he
doesn't like to be referred toas a legend.
I think he's so humble and it'samazing that he can be in this

(04:09):
business and be so humble.
I think a lot of artists couldprobably take notes Because it's
actually the first time I'veseen him do so much promo around
an album.
He travels all the time and heperforms constantly.
Like Barris' catalog is whew,he can perform, perform and you
know the crowd will alwayscontinuously go crazy and I

(04:29):
think he'll be performing untilhe can't anymore and we all love
it.
But for this album he'sactually doing a lot more
interviews and just sharing histhoughts and you know he looks
very excited in a great space.
So big up to the big man Barris.
Hammond Never Ending is out nowso you guys can listen to it on

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any platform.
Single-wise, I'm really feelingJada Kingdom.
I love her sound.
I love just her vibe.
Essentially, it sounds verydifferent than a lot of the
artists that I've been hearing.
So it's not typical.
A lot of the women in reggaeand dance are really doing

(05:12):
things and they don't sound thesame.
So I'm really getting into.
That podcast was talking aboutone woman.
So you know the fact that thereare so many women doing great
music and jada kingdom is one ofthem.
So may I tune into, may Ilisten to?
We are smart.
She had it's actually not justher on the song.
There's another girl on thesong and the name completely

(05:33):
escapes me, but I'm gonna leaveit in the notes.
Um, but yeah, that's what I'mI'm kind of vibing to right now.
So, I guess, because it's kindof cold, I'm kind of like, you
know, I dip into the reggae andand the lovers rock on me.
I slow it down because it'sgetting cold in this area, um,
so that's probably why you know,that's just what I'm vibing to
right now.

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I just love, um music and andfilm documentaries about people
in their lives.
So I've been watching, you know, a bunch on netflix that I
started the quincy jones one, um, but there is a episode on a
documentary program calledremastered, about bob, the
assassination attempt of bobmarley called who shot the

(06:15):
sheriff who shot the sheriff isthe name of the episode, um, and
it's really kind of diving intothe theories and talking to
people that were close to himabout, you know, and even having
some interviews of himpre-diving into the
assassination attempt.
So it doesn't really cover thebreadth of his entire musical

(06:36):
history.
It really just focuses on whoshot him, why or the theories
around why.
Focuses on who shot him why orthe theories around, why it
doesn't really give a distinctanswer.
But you know you can kind oftake clues and extract what you
want.
So I highly recommend watchingit.
It's actually on netflix so youcan watch it at your leisure,
you know, just, um, and I thinkit's something that a lot of

(06:58):
people will enjoy, whether youyou're of Jamaican descent or
you're just interested in BobMarley and his story.
I think it's a significantpiece of who he is as an artist
and part of his history and thelegacy that he leaves behind.
So on to cultural currency.
Cultural currency when I reallythink about that word, it's

(07:23):
like how can culture really havecurrency?
But it's essentially just youknow valuing culture and you
know, essentially, you knowbeing able to monetize off of it
.
In essence, I know people whenpeople think about culture it's

(07:44):
not something that you knowshould be commoditized, um, but
to be completely honest, that'skind of how cultural
appropriation happens anyway, um.
So if we are not the ones tokind of claim the value of our
own culture, then it will becomeculture, then it will become
commoditized by other peoplethat just see and want to enjoy.

(08:06):
You know, we see it all thetime in pop culture, you know,
quote unquote, borrowing orbeing inspired by, you know so
many things that come out of theblack community and you know
it's almost like we've beendoing this forever.
Like where did this come from?
So the idea of just talkingabout cultural currency really

(08:28):
came out of um me attending thisevent called culture con.
So it's a a conference that isreally centered around black
creatives in various spaceswhether it be tech, media,
television, film just comingtogether in a space and having a

(08:49):
bunch of different discussionsaround culture and how we use
our culture to kind of.
For some of these people, theykind of use their culture to
kind of create businesses andhow it has impacted them and
their careers over time.
They also had workshops, whichI didn't attend.
So I really just went to justlisten, really just soak up some

(09:14):
of the energy, hear what peoplewere talking about.
There were a lot of differentgreat people there, from actors,
people from HBO, netflixcreators, film makers Nick
Cannon was there, remy Ma wasthere, so they were kind of just
sharing some of their insightsand on particular topics, and it

(09:36):
was just very inspiring to seeso many you know, people who
look like you in the same room.

(10:00):
Inspiring to see?
Definitely true, because youknow, we kind of we kind of say
you know we set the trend, soyou know, it's kind of just like
that.
You know we set trends but wedon't always monopolize on them,
and I think it's very importantfor us to understand that it's

(10:21):
important to represent yourculture and being able to be
passionate about something and,if you love it that much, to be
able to kind of dictate whereit's going.
You know, and a lot of timeswhat happened is, you know we
set the trend but don't actually, you know, see, see it follow

(10:42):
through.
I think now it's becoming moreprevalent because people are
actually recognizing that it'sjust like wait a minute, why is
it?
You know, it's the whole boxerbraid scenario, where cornrows
were called boxer braids by youknow a media outlet, or you know
even like a silk press wascalled glass hair.

(11:04):
We were like going crazy.
Every time something like thatkind of happens, it kind of
triggers us to say like wait aminute, we've been doing this
for how long?
So why is it all of a sudden?
Now it's a trend.
It's been a trend in ourcommunity, but you know, once it
kind of spans out or it getsinto the hands of you know

(11:24):
people outside of our culturedirectly.
It becomes this big phenomenonof a trend and I think that it's
important one.
You know that we check you knowthose people who you know, like
you know they try to call youknow Rihanna doing the guada,
guada, the stanky leg, and youknow, ok, africa corrected

(11:45):
people.
So it's great to correct peopleon.
You know those types of thingsand calling them out when those
things happen, because it'sdefinitely accurate, like, call
it what it is, don't try tochange the name because it isn't
up to your liking or, from amarketing perspective, you want
to make it more appealing toyour own audience.

(12:06):
It's like.
It's like calling someone by acompletely different name just
because you can't pronouncetheir name.
We're just going to call itsomething different.
For us, it's totallyinappropriate and I really
commend everyone that kind ofgoes in and corrects people.
You know we do it all the timeLike, no, this is not Tropical

(12:26):
House, it is Dantel, it is Soka.
Like, call it what it is.
There's nothing wrong withcreating new genres or creating
new names, but let the peoplethat came up with the come up
with those, or come from that,that that particular trend.
Let them create the new name,don't like force it on to people

(12:48):
, because I think that alsoplays a part in how trends get
commoditized in the first place.
And you know, it's okay to beinspired by a lot of things and
there are definitely ways to beinspired by, and then there are
just ways to kind of, you know,just take it and pretend and you

(13:10):
know, if you get called out onit, acknowledge it.
At the same time, it's up to usto really understand how much
value we bring to the table, ourability to create trends or
change trends.
It really comes from the people.
It comes from the people whoare.

(13:30):
It comes from the dancers anddance hall.
You know, I one thing I always,you know, I love to see it.
Now, I mean, imagine if Boglewas around right now to see you
know how much dance hall dancehas progressed.
I, I mean people are really liketaking classes and giving
masterclasses and I love some ofthe movements that are coming

(13:54):
out of Jamaica, specificallywhen it comes to dance, because
you know you can't trademark adance because you know it
happens so quickly and there areso many people who create
dances that but don't givecredit Big up.
You know of the dancer.
He's always giving credit tothe dancers in jamaica who
create those dances and he'llsay it, you know, continuously.

(14:16):
And when he teaches and he goesand he does his workshops, he,
he always makes it a point toeducate people like this is
where it comes from and this is.
You know what it is and youknow he takes dances back to
Jamaica so that they can havethat full experience.
And that's really whatappreciation is about is having,
you know, those catalysts inbetween to kind of say, okay,

(14:39):
this is how we do it and this iswhat it's supposed to be, and
so you know, and really takingthe people who actually started
that, giving them credit, givingthem opportunities to either
dance or to I'm just using danceas an example, because it's a
great one that I have on my mindright now but it's being able
to take people who created thosetrends and give them the

(15:01):
opportunity to progress andreally see the movement get
bigger.
You know, we say you know this,this, that to the world and
this the only way it gets to theworld.
One is if we push it withintention and two, you have to
expect some of that.
You know appreciation versusappropriation conversation,
because you know you're goinginto any Zumba class, you're

(15:24):
bound to hear a Michelle song, aSoka song, a bungee you know
you're going to hear those thosesounds as well.
But that's kind of how, whathappens when you know, cultural
trends become a globalphenomenon and we have to be a
part of the players that areactually pushing all of it If we

(15:46):
want to, you know, really putvalue to our culture and not see
it and say, you know, but whatabout this and what about this
and why aren't we sitting at thetable?
A lot of that stuff happensbehind the scenes.
So, you know, a lot of thepeople who work at these
corporate places are kind of ofCaribbean descent.

(16:08):
You know those people play animportant part because they are
kind of the catalyst to bringingthe culture to the next level.
Behind the scenes there's a lotof things that happen, you know
, from a musical standpoint.
You know people have to beready to deliver, but there also
has to be people, our storiesfrom our perspective, with

(16:29):
authenticity and, of course,style and vibes.
I fit plug and look at tagline,but essentially that's what
it's about understanding howmuch our culture brings to the
table, understanding our ownvalues so that we can push it to
the next level and have peopleappreciate our culture

(16:50):
respectfully.
I would love to hear yourthoughts on this topic.
What do you think, as aCaribbean person living yad
arabrod minna business?
As a Caribbean, what do youthink our cultural currency is?
Do we value it and how do wecontinue to make sure that we

(17:11):
are pushing the needle, to be atthe table and to be a part of
the conversations and to be apart of the business deals that
are happening globallysurrounding our culture but not
really involving us?
What are your thoughts?
That's it for me today.
Everyone, thank you so much forlistening.
Today is a short episode, but Ihope it was very impactful.

(17:35):
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