January 25, 2021 • 22 mins
Leadership from your butt just doesn’t work! The most effective leaders do more than just fill a seat in an office.
If you want people to be following you, you need to be going somewhere. You need to be walking. Yet your walk also has to be productive and effective; there is an art to it. In this episode, Paul Simkins talks about the keys to making the most of your leadership walk.
Plus, a great recipe for Ozark Winter Chili from The Geezer’s Cookbook.
And if you have a favorite outdoor cooking recipe you would like to share, send it to paul@BoldlyLead.com. If we put it in an episode we'll let you know and give you credit for it on the show.
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Producer (00:00):
The tech leaders toolbox podcast is brought to
you by Paul Simkins and thebully LEAD program, focusing on
helping tech leaders like you,and the frustration of low
performing teams, and losingexcellent employees, so they can
increase productivity by 50%. Gohome on time, and sleep better
(00:21):
at night.
Paul Simkins (00:22):
Hello, and welcome to the tech leaders toolbox. I'm
Paul Simkins. And we're herebecause how you lead today
determines how your teamsucceeds tomorrow. This is
Episode 53 of the podcast. AndI'll be blunt leadership from
your butt just doesn't work. Ifyou want people to be following
(00:44):
you, you need to be goingsomewhere metaphorically and
often physically. Today, we'regoing to talk about how you can
master walking like leaderswalk. Plus, I have a great
recipe for Ozark winter chilithat I got from the geezers
cookbook, are you ready? Let'sgo.
(01:09):
Leaders walk. It's that simple.
You can't possibly leadeffectively sitting in one
place, you can't be secludedbehind closed doors or huddled
behind your desk. Now, let's bereal though there are times
where a little enteruninterrupted office time is
necessary. We all need to dothat we need to leaders need to
(01:30):
spend time visioning the future,planning the day determining how
to best navigate for your team.
And you may even have a littlebit of paperwork that needs to
be done here and there dependingon the role you play. But in the
long run, everyone is moreeffective. When leaders walk,
(01:53):
the organization is better offthe team, individual employees,
and even the leader is betteroff. But it's not just a matter
of walking. It's a matter ofwhere you walk. It's a matter of
how you walk. Who do you walkwith what you do while you're
(02:16):
walking. All of that makes thedifference between idle walking
around and leading. Being whereyour people are is critical. In
their flagship book In Search ofExcellence, Tom Peters and
Robert Waterman popularized theterm management by wandering
around. And by the way, if youhaven't read it yet, you really
(02:37):
need to add that book to yourleaders must read list, along
with Tom Peters latest book, theexcellence dividend. Both are
excellent books. Now the wholeconcept behind the term
management by wandering aroundis that managers can best lead
their people when they are wherethe people are. The managers are
(02:58):
accessible, they see what'shappening, it's easier to spot
problems. And more to the point,it's a very effective way to
discover what employees areexperiencing. You see what their
day is like, instead of simplyreading a summation on a report.
If you want to navigate for yourteam, you have to not only see
(03:22):
the horizon, but you got to knowwhere the ship is. Now. numbers
don't tell you that your peopledo. In addition to wandering
around, leaders also choose towalk along. Now you may have the
vision as of a leader is someonewho walks ahead of others,
(03:43):
they're always looking behindthem and urging others to catch
up and keep moving. But they'realways ahead. After all, if
you're leading them then you'reout in front, right. But the
reality is that a leader is mosteffective when they're walking
beside others, or invitingothers to walk along with him.
(04:04):
Shouting instructions orencouragement from further up
the road doesn't make peoplefeel like a part of the journey.
And in fact, often it's quitethe opposite. Instead of getting
them to close the distance, itactually makes them feel the
distance more acutely. Theydon't feel a part of things.
(04:24):
Instead, they feel like they'rebeing dragged along for the
ride. like a little kid havingto go along to great and Anna's
house where she kisses you onthe cheeks and leaves smears of
lipstick and smells likelicorice. years ago Stanley ot
wrote a book called The joy ofdiscipling. Now it's a faith
oriented book. And if you're afaith oriented person, I highly
(04:47):
recommend it. It's not a longbook, but it's definitely a
powerful book. And in this bookStanley talk describes the
premise of discipling asteaching or guiding others It's
through a with me approach,bringing them along with you,
but also walking along withthem. For the journey is not for
(05:09):
one person. But for both of you.
And along the way, both of yougrow. And that's what leadership
within an organization with ateam is all about. You are
walking alongside people. And asa result, they become better.
They, the organization becomesbetter, because all of the
(05:29):
individual team members becomebetter and are able to work
together more effectively. Andyou become better as a result as
well. So it's the ultimate winwin situation. So as a leader,
your objective is not to be outfront. It's to be beside others.
It's not to say I have all theanswers, it's to say, let's find
(05:55):
the answers together.
See, it's the challenge to bringthem along with you on your
journey, yet at the same time,exploring their journey as well.
And we've talked about this inthe past that it's all about
understanding their journey,helping them get along in their
(06:16):
journey of where they want to bewhat they want to be able to do,
that's going to help them grow.
And it's going to help them beable to be more and do more for
the team. And that last part iscritical. If the relationship
only benefits you, then theother person is going to lose
(06:36):
interest. A leader brings othersalong to help the team get where
they're going. Yet they alsoperform the vital work of
showing the way to where theperson is going. So it means you
have to care for them. You haveto know their story. You have to
(06:57):
get to know where they've been,and want to know where they want
to go and be willing to helpthem get there. And at all
times, being a leader requireshaving someone with you.
Otherwise, all you're doing istaking a lonely walk. One of my
(07:18):
mentors, john Maxwell says ifyou think you're a leader, and
there's no one behind you, thenyou're just taking a walk, or in
this case beside you. So theobjective is to always have
someone with you, even as youlearn discovery as a team or a
group is so much moreproductive, and so much more
(07:41):
rewarding. So, does this meanthat you spend all of your time
walking with everyone wouldreally leave you much time for
anything else would it? Not onlythat, but you know, not everyone
will want to take that walk. Youwon't always have a team filled
with people with greatattitudes, tremendous work
(08:03):
ethic, camaraderie, andambition. And that's a thing.
Yeah, a lot of times with whatwe hear with people presenting,
building elite teams andeverything else and and the
thing you got to remember is isthat in a perfect world, yeah,
you can have an elite teamthat's filled with nothing but
(08:25):
high performers. But we don'tlive in a perfect world. And
you're not going to have it. Sounderstand that your team is
going to be filled sometimeswith people that are okay
performers, as well as highperformers. And sometimes you're
(08:49):
going to have people that areunderperforming. And even more
realistic, especially if youdidn't have the ability to pick
your team. You're going to havethe slouches as well. So if your
job as a leader is to walk withpeople, does that mean you'll
(09:10):
walk with a slouches as well asthe stars? Well, of course, the
answer is no. As a leader,you've got great demands on your
time you got a lot you got todo. You know we talked about
that earlier, you're spendingtime visioning. You're spending
time looking for where the teamneeds to go. You spending time
(09:30):
navigating for them. You have alot of demands on your time.
walking alongside others takesenergy. It takes time. It takes
commitment. So you opt to invitepeople to walk along with you
who will benefit the most fromit. And notice I didn't say that
(09:51):
you would benefit the most fromyou invite people to walk along
with you who will benefit themost from it. You look for
people that have the rightmindset to be a good walking
partner with you. So here aresome of the signs that you want
to look for, to identify thosegood walking partners. First of
(10:13):
all, you want somebody who haswhat we call a teachable spirit.
What does that mean? That meansthat they need to be willing to
learn along the way, they needto be willing to understand that
the way they're doing, it maynot be the best way. And they
have to make changes. So alongwith that, it means they also
(10:39):
have to be open to discomfort.
growth happens when we areuncomfortable. In fact, I would
venture to say, you can't growand be comfortable at the same
time. You can't settle in andthen learn and grow, it just
(11:01):
doesn't happen.
So anybody that you want, as awalking partner that you want
walking along with you, theyneed to be open to discomfort,
not they don't have to like it.
Nobody likes beinguncomfortable. You certainly
don't, I don't, nobody likes it.
(11:23):
But you have to be willing toendure it and open to it. So
they need a teachable spirit,they need to be open to
discomfort, they also need adesire to pass it along. Because
ultimately, as a leader, you'renot looking to build followers.
(11:44):
followers are easy, you can findthem anywhere. There's always
somebody who is willing tofollow somebody along sales
along and do whatever they youtell them to do, because it
saves them from thinking and itsaves them from the effort of
having to grow. But that's notwhat you're looking for. You're
(12:05):
looking to build other leadersup. So they have to not only be
open to their own growth, opento discomfort, but they have to
have a desire to pass it alongto others. Because what you're
building is a network ofleaders, not just a group of
(12:25):
followers. And finally, theyneed to have a passion for
service. If someone is lookingto walk alongside you, just for
their own personal gain, they'renot going to be very helpful in
meeting your goals or the teamobjectives. They have to be
(12:46):
willing to be of service, aswell as open to being served.
And that's one of the things Ithink is, is a big challenge
today because a lot of peoplereally look towards their own
achievement and their ownpersonal gain. Being part of a
(13:06):
team just means that there'sother people you hang around
with while you try to get yourway. And real elite teams are
the people are full of peoplethat look to serve everyone
else. And are open to being ofservice. So where all of this
(13:31):
fits in, is in the execution. Bywandering around, you're able to
discover these people who meetthe requirements for a good
walking partner. You'll find outhow they can best serve the
team, you'll find out theirgoals, you'll find you'll learn
about their personal goals. Andyou'll find out how they can
(13:51):
best serve the team goals. Andonce you find them, you can then
invite them to join you on thejourney. So a couple of
questions I want to leave youwith to think about here as we
close up. Who are you bringingbeside you right now? Are you
(14:12):
helping them on their journey?
Or are you just dragging themalong on yours? leaders walk
I'll be back in a moment.
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Paul Simkins (14:58):
All right so we Hit the part of the show is, for
those of you who have listenedto the podcast before, know that
I am a huge fan of outdoorcooking. I do all kinds of
outdoor cooking, I love to doit. Any opportunity I can get to
go out to my grill to go out tomy smoker most especially, or
again, when I go camping. I'musing my Dutch ovens, I'm doing
(15:21):
all kinds of cooking all thetime. And just love just
something special about thetaste of outdoor cooking. And I
like it so much. I actuallystarted a group on Facebook
called smoke and ash. And Iinvited all my friends out there
and me and all my friends whoare into outdoor cooking as
(15:42):
well. We share recipes, we shareideas, we usually you'll see a
lot of pictures on there. Peoplesay hey, here's what I'm doing
this weekend. Look what I did. Alot of them have the big green
eggs. And they really love that.
And I invite you if you even ifyou're just interested in
outdoor cooking and not really apro at it or not maybe not doing
it at the level I am that'sokay, come out and join us. You
(16:04):
can ask to join the smoke andash Facebook group we would love
to have you. And so I also likeon the show here I like to share
some outdoor cooking recipes. Soeach week I'll share a recipe.
And what I have this week iscalled Ozark winter chili. Now I
did not invent this recipe. Iactually got this from a book
(16:25):
called The geezers cookbook,which was written by I'm, I've
mentioned before, I'm heavilyinvolved in the scouting
program, and the geezerscookbook but was written by an
adult leader in the scoutingprogram who was really into
cooking, and was always lookingfor recipes and adapting them
for the outdoors. And this andhe compiled all this into a
(16:48):
cookbook. And this is one of hisrecipes. It's called Ozark
winter chili. So let's talkabout what you're going to need.
You're going to need about apound of hot pork sausage, and
about two and a half pounds ofground chuck you know that's
ground beef basically. Now asyou might imagine, with those
kinds of quantities, this isgoing to make a lot so you have
(17:10):
to be ready for that and you'regoing to need like a large Dutch
oven for this and need aboutfour onions chopped up to green
peppers diced up to large cansof crushed tomatoes, two cans of
these rotel tomatoes, you knowthat's the dice tomatoes that
(17:30):
have the green chilies in them.
So you went two cans of thatabout a half a pound of dry
pinto beans. Now if you don'tfeel like doing dealing with dry
beans, just buy a couple of cansof canned pinto beans and
that'll be fine. Just drain themfirst and rinse them off. You
(17:51):
went about two tablespoons ofolive oil, three cloves of
garlic minced, I'm more likelyto do about ooh five or six
cloves of garlic. About a half acup of chopped partially half a
cup of butter or margarine,about two tablespoons of salt.
Again, this makes a hugequantity. So if you're not going
to be cooking for a lot ofpeople, you want to cut this all
(18:13):
in half. You want some chilipowder about a third a cup of
chili powder, one and a halfteaspoons of black pepper, a
teaspoon of red pepper, cayennepepper and other words and one
and a half teaspoons of cuminand you're going to want water
and the quantity of water isgoing to be enough to cover
everything basically. So again,if you're going to do the dry
(18:36):
beans, the first thing you needto do is soak the beans in water
overnight which softens them upand makes them easier to cook.
If you're not going to if you'regoing to do the canned beans
instead you can skip that andthen just go to the next step
which is to place the beans in aDutch oven and just kind of heat
them up and let them simmer andget heated up. And then you're
(19:00):
going to add your cannedtomatoes and let it simmer a
little bit longer. Meanwhile,you're going to get a skillet
and you're going to saute yourgreen peppers, your onion, your
garlic and your parsley alltogether in a little bit of
olive oil. Then either usinganother skillet, either using
(19:23):
another skillet or again takethe stuff that you just saw.
Take out and set aside and thenuse the skillet again melt the
butter margarine and then brownyour sausage and your ground
chuck.
Add your onion mixture that youpreviously sauteed add it back
(19:45):
in there stir in the chilipowder. Let it cook for about 10
minutes and then add all of thatto the Dutch oven with the
beans. Add the rest of yourspices. Stir it all real well
and let it sell for about anhour with the lid on. So you
(20:07):
want it covered simmer for aboutan hour, then take the lid off,
let it simmer for another 30minutes. If there's any grease
that is floated to the top,you'll want to skim it a little
bit, and it's ready to serve.
And what this would be idealwith is, uh, if you made some
Johnny cake or corn bread wouldbe perfect with this. A good
salad on the side. And man, youhave got a meal. Now again, I
(20:33):
want to emphasize with thequantities that are on this
recipe, this is for feeding alarge group of people a whole
troop like so you will probablywant to cut this recipe in half
for most of your purposes. Evenstill, you're going to love the
flavor nice and warming on thesecold winter days that we're
going through right now. Andthat's yet it again, it's called
(20:54):
Ozark winter chilly. All rightcouple of things. As we close up
here a couple of things I wantto remind you of again, the
recipe by the way, if you wantthe recipe, you can go out to
the smoke and ash Facebook groupand I have it out there and you
can download it from there, orsend me an email at Paul at
boldly lead calm, and I'll beglad to send that recipe. And if
(21:17):
you have an outdoor favoriteoutdoor cooking recipe, and
you'd like to get it on the showand share it with us. You can
also send those to me at Paul atboldly lead.com if I use your
recipe on the podcast, I will ofcourse give you a fuse of praise
and credit for it. And I wouldlove to do that. So if you have
(21:40):
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(22:05):
Until next time, go out and bethe leader. You are meant to be
The tech leaders toolbox podcast is brought to
you by Paul Simkins and thebully LEAD program, focusing on
helping tech leaders like you,and the frustration of low
performing teams, and losingexcellent employees, so they can
increase productivity by 50%. Gohome on time, and sleep better
(00:21):
at night.
Paul Simkins (00:22):
Hello, and welcome to the tech leaders toolbox. I'm
Paul Simkins. And we're herebecause how you lead today
determines how your teamsucceeds tomorrow. This is
Episode 53 of the podcast. AndI'll be blunt leadership from
your butt just doesn't work. Ifyou want people to be following
(00:44):
you, you need to be goingsomewhere metaphorically and
often physically. Today, we'regoing to talk about how you can
master walking like leaderswalk. Plus, I have a great
recipe for Ozark winter chilithat I got from the geezers
cookbook, are you ready? Let'sgo.
(01:09):
Leaders walk. It's that simple.
You can't possibly leadeffectively sitting in one
place, you can't be secludedbehind closed doors or huddled
behind your desk. Now, let's bereal though there are times
where a little enteruninterrupted office time is
necessary. We all need to dothat we need to leaders need to
(01:30):
spend time visioning the future,planning the day determining how
to best navigate for your team.
And you may even have a littlebit of paperwork that needs to
be done here and there dependingon the role you play. But in the
long run, everyone is moreeffective. When leaders walk,
(01:53):
the organization is better offthe team, individual employees,
and even the leader is betteroff. But it's not just a matter
of walking. It's a matter ofwhere you walk. It's a matter of
how you walk. Who do you walkwith what you do while you're
(02:16):
walking. All of that makes thedifference between idle walking
around and leading. Being whereyour people are is critical. In
their flagship book In Search ofExcellence, Tom Peters and
Robert Waterman popularized theterm management by wandering
around. And by the way, if youhaven't read it yet, you really
(02:37):
need to add that book to yourleaders must read list, along
with Tom Peters latest book, theexcellence dividend. Both are
excellent books. Now the wholeconcept behind the term
management by wandering aroundis that managers can best lead
their people when they are wherethe people are. The managers are
(02:58):
accessible, they see what'shappening, it's easier to spot
problems. And more to the point,it's a very effective way to
discover what employees areexperiencing. You see what their
day is like, instead of simplyreading a summation on a report.
If you want to navigate for yourteam, you have to not only see
(03:22):
the horizon, but you got to knowwhere the ship is. Now. numbers
don't tell you that your peopledo. In addition to wandering
around, leaders also choose towalk along. Now you may have the
vision as of a leader is someonewho walks ahead of others,
(03:43):
they're always looking behindthem and urging others to catch
up and keep moving. But they'realways ahead. After all, if
you're leading them then you'reout in front, right. But the
reality is that a leader is mosteffective when they're walking
beside others, or invitingothers to walk along with him.
(04:04):
Shouting instructions orencouragement from further up
the road doesn't make peoplefeel like a part of the journey.
And in fact, often it's quitethe opposite. Instead of getting
them to close the distance, itactually makes them feel the
distance more acutely. Theydon't feel a part of things.
(04:24):
Instead, they feel like they'rebeing dragged along for the
ride. like a little kid havingto go along to great and Anna's
house where she kisses you onthe cheeks and leaves smears of
lipstick and smells likelicorice. years ago Stanley ot
wrote a book called The joy ofdiscipling. Now it's a faith
oriented book. And if you're afaith oriented person, I highly
(04:47):
recommend it. It's not a longbook, but it's definitely a
powerful book. And in this bookStanley talk describes the
premise of discipling asteaching or guiding others It's
through a with me approach,bringing them along with you,
but also walking along withthem. For the journey is not for
(05:09):
one person. But for both of you.
And along the way, both of yougrow. And that's what leadership
within an organization with ateam is all about. You are
walking alongside people. And asa result, they become better.
They, the organization becomesbetter, because all of the
(05:29):
individual team members becomebetter and are able to work
together more effectively. Andyou become better as a result as
well. So it's the ultimate winwin situation. So as a leader,
your objective is not to be outfront. It's to be beside others.
It's not to say I have all theanswers, it's to say, let's find
(05:55):
the answers together.
See, it's the challenge to bringthem along with you on your
journey, yet at the same time,exploring their journey as well.
And we've talked about this inthe past that it's all about
understanding their journey,helping them get along in their
(06:16):
journey of where they want to bewhat they want to be able to do,
that's going to help them grow.
And it's going to help them beable to be more and do more for
the team. And that last part iscritical. If the relationship
only benefits you, then theother person is going to lose
(06:36):
interest. A leader brings othersalong to help the team get where
they're going. Yet they alsoperform the vital work of
showing the way to where theperson is going. So it means you
have to care for them. You haveto know their story. You have to
(06:57):
get to know where they've been,and want to know where they want
to go and be willing to helpthem get there. And at all
times, being a leader requireshaving someone with you.
Otherwise, all you're doing istaking a lonely walk. One of my
(07:18):
mentors, john Maxwell says ifyou think you're a leader, and
there's no one behind you, thenyou're just taking a walk, or in
this case beside you. So theobjective is to always have
someone with you, even as youlearn discovery as a team or a
group is so much moreproductive, and so much more
(07:41):
rewarding. So, does this meanthat you spend all of your time
walking with everyone wouldreally leave you much time for
anything else would it? Not onlythat, but you know, not everyone
will want to take that walk. Youwon't always have a team filled
with people with greatattitudes, tremendous work
(08:03):
ethic, camaraderie, andambition. And that's a thing.
Yeah, a lot of times with whatwe hear with people presenting,
building elite teams andeverything else and and the
thing you got to remember is isthat in a perfect world, yeah,
you can have an elite teamthat's filled with nothing but
(08:25):
high performers. But we don'tlive in a perfect world. And
you're not going to have it. Sounderstand that your team is
going to be filled sometimeswith people that are okay
performers, as well as highperformers. And sometimes you're
(08:49):
going to have people that areunderperforming. And even more
realistic, especially if youdidn't have the ability to pick
your team. You're going to havethe slouches as well. So if your
job as a leader is to walk withpeople, does that mean you'll
(09:10):
walk with a slouches as well asthe stars? Well, of course, the
answer is no. As a leader,you've got great demands on your
time you got a lot you got todo. You know we talked about
that earlier, you're spendingtime visioning. You're spending
time looking for where the teamneeds to go. You spending time
(09:30):
navigating for them. You have alot of demands on your time.
walking alongside others takesenergy. It takes time. It takes
commitment. So you opt to invitepeople to walk along with you
who will benefit the most fromit. And notice I didn't say that
(09:51):
you would benefit the most fromyou invite people to walk along
with you who will benefit themost from it. You look for
people that have the rightmindset to be a good walking
partner with you. So here aresome of the signs that you want
to look for, to identify thosegood walking partners. First of
(10:13):
all, you want somebody who haswhat we call a teachable spirit.
What does that mean? That meansthat they need to be willing to
learn along the way, they needto be willing to understand that
the way they're doing, it maynot be the best way. And they
have to make changes. So alongwith that, it means they also
(10:39):
have to be open to discomfort.
growth happens when we areuncomfortable. In fact, I would
venture to say, you can't growand be comfortable at the same
time. You can't settle in andthen learn and grow, it just
(11:01):
doesn't happen.
So anybody that you want, as awalking partner that you want
walking along with you, theyneed to be open to discomfort,
not they don't have to like it.
Nobody likes beinguncomfortable. You certainly
don't, I don't, nobody likes it.
(11:23):
But you have to be willing toendure it and open to it. So
they need a teachable spirit,they need to be open to
discomfort, they also need adesire to pass it along. Because
ultimately, as a leader, you'renot looking to build followers.
(11:44):
followers are easy, you can findthem anywhere. There's always
somebody who is willing tofollow somebody along sales
along and do whatever they youtell them to do, because it
saves them from thinking and itsaves them from the effort of
having to grow. But that's notwhat you're looking for. You're
(12:05):
looking to build other leadersup. So they have to not only be
open to their own growth, opento discomfort, but they have to
have a desire to pass it alongto others. Because what you're
building is a network ofleaders, not just a group of
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followers. And finally, theyneed to have a passion for
service. If someone is lookingto walk alongside you, just for
their own personal gain, they'renot going to be very helpful in
meeting your goals or the teamobjectives. They have to be
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willing to be of service, aswell as open to being served.
And that's one of the things Ithink is, is a big challenge
today because a lot of peoplereally look towards their own
achievement and their ownpersonal gain. Being part of a
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team just means that there'sother people you hang around
with while you try to get yourway. And real elite teams are
the people are full of peoplethat look to serve everyone
else. And are open to being ofservice. So where all of this
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fits in, is in the execution. Bywandering around, you're able to
discover these people who meetthe requirements for a good
walking partner. You'll find outhow they can best serve the
team, you'll find out theirgoals, you'll find you'll learn
about their personal goals. Andyou'll find out how they can
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best serve the team goals. Andonce you find them, you can then
invite them to join you on thejourney. So a couple of
questions I want to leave youwith to think about here as we
close up. Who are you bringingbeside you right now? Are you
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helping them on their journey?
Or are you just dragging themalong on yours? leaders walk
I'll be back in a moment.
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All right so we Hit the part of the show is, for
those of you who have listenedto the podcast before, know that
I am a huge fan of outdoorcooking. I do all kinds of
outdoor cooking, I love to doit. Any opportunity I can get to
go out to my grill to go out tomy smoker most especially, or
again, when I go camping. I'musing my Dutch ovens, I'm doing
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all kinds of cooking all thetime. And just love just
something special about thetaste of outdoor cooking. And I
like it so much. I actuallystarted a group on Facebook
called smoke and ash. And Iinvited all my friends out there
and me and all my friends whoare into outdoor cooking as
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well. We share recipes, we shareideas, we usually you'll see a
lot of pictures on there. Peoplesay hey, here's what I'm doing
this weekend. Look what I did. Alot of them have the big green
eggs. And they really love that.
And I invite you if you even ifyou're just interested in
outdoor cooking and not really apro at it or not maybe not doing
it at the level I am that'sokay, come out and join us. You
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can ask to join the smoke andash Facebook group we would love
to have you. And so I also likeon the show here I like to share
some outdoor cooking recipes. Soeach week I'll share a recipe.
And what I have this week iscalled Ozark winter chili. Now I
did not invent this recipe. Iactually got this from a book
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called The geezers cookbook,which was written by I'm, I've
mentioned before, I'm heavilyinvolved in the scouting
program, and the geezerscookbook but was written by an
adult leader in the scoutingprogram who was really into
cooking, and was always lookingfor recipes and adapting them
for the outdoors. And this andhe compiled all this into a
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cookbook. And this is one of hisrecipes. It's called Ozark
winter chili. So let's talkabout what you're going to need.
You're going to need about apound of hot pork sausage, and
about two and a half pounds ofground chuck you know that's
ground beef basically. Now asyou might imagine, with those
kinds of quantities, this isgoing to make a lot so you have
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to be ready for that and you'regoing to need like a large Dutch
oven for this and need aboutfour onions chopped up to green
peppers diced up to large cansof crushed tomatoes, two cans of
these rotel tomatoes, you knowthat's the dice tomatoes that
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have the green chilies in them.
So you went two cans of thatabout a half a pound of dry
pinto beans. Now if you don'tfeel like doing dealing with dry
beans, just buy a couple of cansof canned pinto beans and
that'll be fine. Just drain themfirst and rinse them off. You
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went about two tablespoons ofolive oil, three cloves of
garlic minced, I'm more likelyto do about ooh five or six
cloves of garlic. About a half acup of chopped partially half a
cup of butter or margarine,about two tablespoons of salt.
Again, this makes a hugequantity. So if you're not going
to be cooking for a lot ofpeople, you want to cut this all
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in half. You want some chilipowder about a third a cup of
chili powder, one and a halfteaspoons of black pepper, a
teaspoon of red pepper, cayennepepper and other words and one
and a half teaspoons of cuminand you're going to want water
and the quantity of water isgoing to be enough to cover
everything basically. So again,if you're going to do the dry
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beans, the first thing you needto do is soak the beans in water
overnight which softens them upand makes them easier to cook.
If you're not going to if you'regoing to do the canned beans
instead you can skip that andthen just go to the next step
which is to place the beans in aDutch oven and just kind of heat
them up and let them simmer andget heated up. And then you're
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going to add your cannedtomatoes and let it simmer a
little bit longer. Meanwhile,you're going to get a skillet
and you're going to saute yourgreen peppers, your onion, your
garlic and your parsley alltogether in a little bit of
olive oil. Then either usinganother skillet, either using
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another skillet or again takethe stuff that you just saw.
Take out and set aside and thenuse the skillet again melt the
butter margarine and then brownyour sausage and your ground
chuck.
Add your onion mixture that youpreviously sauteed add it back
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in there stir in the chilipowder. Let it cook for about 10
minutes and then add all of thatto the Dutch oven with the
beans. Add the rest of yourspices. Stir it all real well
and let it sell for about anhour with the lid on. So you
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want it covered simmer for aboutan hour, then take the lid off,
let it simmer for another 30minutes. If there's any grease
that is floated to the top,you'll want to skim it a little
bit, and it's ready to serve.
And what this would be idealwith is, uh, if you made some
Johnny cake or corn bread wouldbe perfect with this. A good
salad on the side. And man, youhave got a meal. Now again, I
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want to emphasize with thequantities that are on this
recipe, this is for feeding alarge group of people a whole
troop like so you will probablywant to cut this recipe in half
for most of your purposes. Evenstill, you're going to love the
flavor nice and warming on thesecold winter days that we're
going through right now. Andthat's yet it again, it's called
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Ozark winter chilly. All rightcouple of things. As we close up
here a couple of things I wantto remind you of again, the
recipe by the way, if you wantthe recipe, you can go out to
the smoke and ash Facebook groupand I have it out there and you
can download it from there, orsend me an email at Paul at
boldly lead calm, and I'll beglad to send that recipe. And if
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you have an outdoor favoriteoutdoor cooking recipe, and
you'd like to get it on the showand share it with us. You can
also send those to me at Paul atboldly lead.com if I use your
recipe on the podcast, I will ofcourse give you a fuse of praise
and credit for it. And I wouldlove to do that. So if you have
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a recipe Feel free to share thatwith me. And also, be sure to
subscribe and review the podcastif you're listening to this on
Apple podcast or Google podcastor any place like that. Be sure
to give us a five star reviewand recommend us to others so
that we can grow the group wecan bring more people in to the
tech leaders toolbox. That'sabout all we have for this week.
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Until next time, go out and bethe leader. You are meant to be
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