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June 23, 2025 22 mins

In this episode, Richard Girges, CTO at MNTN, breaks down the appeal and risk of emulating high-profile leaders like Elon Musk or Steve Jobs. From startup life to scaling teams, Richard shares how leaders can avoid the missteps of mimicry and instead cultivate their unique "mode of genius." You’ll learn how intuition, failure, and self-awareness play a vital role in effective leadership—and why copying the “death stare” won’t make you a visionary.


🔑 Key Takeaways

Emulating leaders can be a shortcut—but often a dangerous one. Traits that are easy to imitate (like quirks) may not reflect the true drivers of success.


Leadership styles must align with your personal values and stage of growth. What works at an early-stage startup can break things at scale.


Finding your “mode of genius” means identifying what energizes you and where you're naturally skilled or deeply motivated to improve.


Failure is inevitable—and essential. The best leaders lean into it, learning through feedback loops and rapid testing.


Developing a decision-making framework (like minimal viable tests) helps bypass analysis paralysis.


⏱️ Timestamped Highlights

[00:01:00] What MNTN does: reinventing TV advertising with data-driven performance

[00:03:00] The dangers of misapplying advice from famous founders

[00:06:00] Why we gravitate toward copying successful traits—and why that’s risky

[00:08:00] Emulating Elon Musk? It might work—if you’re still early stage

[00:10:00] What “mode of genius” means—and how Richard found his

[00:13:00] How to decide what leadership traits are worth adopting

[00:15:00] Failure as a feature, not a bug, in startup leadership

[00:17:00] The power of intuition and decision velocity

[00:18:00] MVP-style frameworks to reduce decision fatigue

[00:20:00] Why execution beats overthinking in fast-moving spaces like AI


💬 Quote Worth Sharing

“If you’re not failing, then you’re probably not even running a startup.” — Richard Girges


🧰 Mentioned Resources

Y Combinator's advice: “Do things that don’t scale”


Rand Fishkin’s book (likely “Lost and Founder”): Influential in Richard’s leadership values


💼 Career Advice (from the episode)

Don’t blindly adopt leadership styles—look for alignment with your own values.


Learn through failure. Let intuition guide you and refine it through repetition.


Early in your career, test different leadership behaviors and refine based on what resonates—not just what’s trendy.


Adopt a fast-feedback loop: test small, learn fast, iterate often.

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