March 19, 2025 • 30 mins
Elizabeth Rogers, CEO of PopLife wellness space in Cleveland and certified yoga instructor, shares her transformative journey from law and investment banking to creating a community-centered wellness space that blends creativity and personal growth.
• Recognizing at age 31 that she was living someone else's life, just "checking boxes"
• Finding herself with an unfulfilling marriage, demanding job, and only valuing her title
• Experiencing multiple life changes in one month – miscarriage, marriage issues, job ending
• Moving back to her parents' house at 31 before deciding to pursue yoga teacher training in Bali
• Discovering that relinquishing control brought freedom rather than fear
• Learning from others' trauma stories that shame and guilt serve no purpose
• Creating PopLife as a space where "everyone has something to offer, everyone has something to learn"
• Establishing a holistic center with nutritious food, fitness classes, and community spaces
• Emphasizing the correlation between community connection and happiness
• Encouraging meditation as the first step to embracing personal change
If you're interested in learning more about PopLife, check out their Instagram @poplifecle or email poplifeconnection@gmail.com.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome, friends, to another episode of the
Telewellness Hub podcast.
Today, I get to speak withElizabeth Rogers, ceo of PopLife
, a wellness space in Cleveland,and also she's a certified yoga
instructor.
We're going to get to talk alittle bit about the wellness
space that she has that blendscreativity, community and
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personal transformation.
With a background in law,investment, banking and
operational strategy, biztransitioned from a successful
legal and finance career toentrepreneurship and in 2018,
she became a certified yogainstructor in Bali, which
deepened her passion forwellness and reshaped her
(00:43):
leadership approach At PopLife.
She combines her diverseprofessional experience with a
commitment to empoweringindividuals through holistic
programs and transformativeexperiences.
Welcome.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Thank you, thank you, I'm so glad to be here.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Yes, before we hit record, I was already really
getting excited to hear it.
That is a big leap from thislaw, world and industry to what
you're doing now, and so I can'twait to hear a little bit about
that transition.
And before we do, I want toknow a little bit more about why
do you do the wellness workthat you do?
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Yeah.
So I guess, to kick it off,everyone in their lives have
these journeys that you kind ofgo on, and sometimes, for me
personally, it was one of thosethings where when especially
when I turned 31, I started torealize my life was not
necessarily my life.
All of these decisions that I'dmade up to this point weren't
because I wanted to make them,it was just because it was like
checking the boxes.
It was the right things to do,and I was in at that point in
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time, a marriage that was veryunfulfilling, a job that was
really demanding.
But the only thing that I likedabout it was my title in it,
just not the work, nothingreally else about it.
So for me it was the start ofthis journey to be the happiest,
healthiest person I possiblycould be on this planet.
And once I started really goingdown that path, I realized that
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, while it might look differentfor every single individual, we
all have the capacity, theability, the propensity to be
our happiest, healthiest selves.
So it became this thing I wasreally passionate about, you
know having this wellness spacefor myself, having the ability
to search for health andwellness for myself, but also to
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really introduce people to thethoughts to the mindset really
that, um, you know they can be,do, have anything and achieve
anything.
So yeah, that's where it allstarted.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Yeah, that's incredible.
I I appreciate you sharingbecause I think, um there,
everyone's journey into like thedecisions they made right and
to the space that they're in,especially a wellness space it
comes from.
I've learned over the time ofthis podcast, like from their
own transformation and a deepintention and a passion.
(03:12):
I think that's something thatyou keep hearing and I love
hearing the story behind thepassion, Like why are you doing
this work?
And there's always this passion.
I love hearing about that.
And just, it was so cool tohear you talk about like being
okay, diverting from the thingsthat check the box.
Yes, I feel like I bet that'sreally empowering for your own
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clients, for you to like modelthrough that right Like to for
you to be able to know what itlooks like to make decisions, to
follow a different path,because it can take a lot of
courage, I think.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Yeah, absolutely, and for me personally.
So I grew up in a really bigIrish Catholic family.
We were one of seven kids, sosomething that was instilled in
us was financial insecurity at avery young age.
So, you know, wanting to pursuethings that provided stability,
security in ways that you thinklike, oh, this is important,
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this is what success looks likein society, this is what, you
know, we should really strivefor.
But then realizing, you knownone of that matters.
Money is energy.
You know everything that we dois actually, in fact, energy.
And when you start to reallytake a look around and realize
you know, listen to yourself,listen to whatever you know,
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your inner voice is saying.
I think powerful, magicalthings do happen and it is
difficult to make a big lifechange just because the unknown
is the unknown.
You don't know what you don'tknow and you know.
For that reason it can be scary, but I also think it's one of
the most powerful, impactfulthings that you can do is just
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really tune in and start tofollow.
You know what your own soul issaying.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
Yeah, I love that.
That's so powerful.
One of the things I reallywanted to talk to you about in
this episode is just your ownexperience and insight, with
your background, on like thisidea of taking control of your
life.
With so much uncertainty, somuch, you cannot control what
that looks like.
So I don't know if you canshare with with listeners a
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little bit about what thatprocess looks like.
So I don't know if you canshare with listeners a little
bit about what that processlooks like.
I feel like that segued alittle bit into it right, like
taking control of your life,like what that looks like and
what are some of the majorblocks that people typically
have when it comes to that andhow to overcome it.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Yeah.
So for me at least, andespecially in the industries
that I started cutting my teethin, it was just super demanding
and there was such a box thatyou needed to really fit into
and it was just well-establishedand well-understood.
These are the behaviors youexhibit, this is the work that
you do, these are the hours thatyou spend doing it, and
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everything's just very work thatyou do.
These are the hours that youspend doing it and you know,
everything's just very contrivedand, in a way, very controlled.
So you know, when I got to thepoint where I started realizing
this is not what sets my soul onfire, this is not, you know,
fulfillment, which to me isdoing the things that make your
brain buzz, doing the thingsthat really feed you.
And it doesn't matter whatthose things are.
You could be a mathematicianand you could be sitting at a
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computer, you know crunchingnumbers.
If that sets your soul on fireand you are fulfilled, that is
truly worth pursuing, you know,and that's where passion kind of
comes into play.
But for me it was one of thosethings where, when I was on my
journey, my life kind of kickedme out of it.
So I was in a marriage that wasnot in any way serving me.
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I was living, actually, in thelocation of my ex-husband,
surrounded by his friends, hisfamily, and he also just wasn't
very nice.
Things were his way or no way.
And then my job was just one ofthose things where I found
fulfillment in certain things,like in my title.
But then I realized, like noneof this matters, like none of it
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, none of it matters.
And we to get a little personalwere trying to have kids and I
ended up having a reallyhorrible miscarriage and being
told you might never be able tohave kids.
And all at once I realized, um,and I mean, everything's okay,
I actually have two lovelydaughters now, and like things
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are fantastic.
But, um, I really realized thatmy ex-husband was not this
person that I wanted to havekids with because I didn't want
them to be like him.
And then I realized you know myjob, I just didn't care about
it.
And then I realized you know myenvironment, like all of these
things you're kind of likehanging your hat and identity on
were not things that Inecessarily wanted to identify
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myself with.
So I distinctly remember theday then my company that I was
working for sold, so they calledme, and this was all within a
month period of time.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
This is a lot for one person.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Yeah, yeah, and it was all within a month where you
know all these things kind ofstarted happening.
And so my company called andthey said we are selling, so you
know, we're giving you a greatseverance package, but you're
going to have to find anotherplace of employment.
And I just sat and like laughed.
I wasn't upset, I didn't cry, Ijust realized like my universe
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was kicking me out of it.
But I actually had beenmanifesting that all along,
because I think I realized likethis was not fulfilling.
This wasn't you know what I waslooking for.
So I ended up moving back hometo my parents' house that I
hadn't lived in since I was 18,just starting college, and it
was one of those things where itwas somewhat humbling, but also
just exactly where I needed tobe.
(08:47):
And in losing control, I thinkI gained my sense of self and
realizing that you know youcan't control anything, but your
mindset truly, and your mindsetis where everything stems from.
Uh, it was the most freeingthing in the entire world and I
still look back.
I was only there for threeweeks before I decided to move
to Bali, get my teacher trainingand just kind of look at my
(09:10):
life differently.
But yeah, I just look back inthat time with such fondness,
because it was such a justrelinquishing of control.
But instead of bringing in fear, it actually brought such
relief.
It was really empowering, Iguess.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
That is incredible, and also I.
I find it amazing that I didn'tknow any of this in your
background when we got connected.
But I we have so many parallels.
Because I went through adivorce, I found myself moving
in with my parents.
I had not lived with them sinceI was 18, you know, college,
grad school, like was in myex-husband's world a little bit
(09:50):
before and found myself doingyoga teacher training after my
divorce.
It's kind of not in Bali, thatwould be incredible but really
like kind of starting all overand I could relate and I think a
lot of people can relate tothat feeling of like sometimes
things are destroyed so you canput them back together yeah in
like an incredible way.
(10:10):
I I had a an amazing colleaguewho told me once like stained
glass windows can only be madefrom pieces of like broken glass
right, yes, I love that too.
So, just like, what a testamentto you creating this amazing
life from what some people couldconsider like okay, like like
things fell apart, but you likecreated something beautiful from
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from it and having peace, andprobably having peace while
relinquishing control in a sense.
Right Like, in the sense ofletting go of of certain
circumstances and doing what youcould to to make decisions in
your life, because I thinkthat's not an easy thing to do.
(10:54):
So.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Yeah, no, not at all.
You know, and it was withinthat journey that you know, like
, obviously I was focused onmyself at that time.
But, you know, when I startedsharing my story, like
especially when I was doing theyoga teacher training year, I
was with people from all overthe world and started realizing,
like everyone holds on totrauma right, like we all carry
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things that have happened to usand some things that have
happened to people are trulyobjectively awful and it's
really interesting to see youknow what happens after to this
individual.
Do they, you know, what happensafter to this individual?
Do they, you know, kind ofsuccumb to it or do they, you
know, take it and grow from it?
And it was also one of thosethings where I realized that
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shame and guilt just have noplace in this world for anything
, for anyone, in anycircumstance.
And I truly think that, justbecause you know even the most
awful things, the most awfulpeople, all of it stems from
experiences.
We are the sum total of all ofour experiences that have led us
to being.
You know exactly who and whatwe are at this point in time.
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I also, like my own personalbelief, is that we are all one.
So you know all of ourcollective experiences.
There is a place and there is,you know, a scientific basis
behind our connections together.
So you know, looking at all ofus differently or saying in a
really judgmental way, Iwouldn't do that or I wouldn't
do this, it's like, no, youactually probably would, had you
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taken that walk through lifethat you know that other
individual did.
So it was really starting tolisten to all of these other
experiences that people had thatI truly started to heal because
I realized, like I didn't, Idon't need to hold onto this
because I'm not judging them forwhat happened to themselves.
So why am I judging me, youknow, and, um, I didn't have to.
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Or you know, like you hearother people's stories and you
feel just, uh, like I can'tbelieve that happened to you.
That's really awful, but youfeel still love for them and
it's like, oh my gosh, you knowif I can feel that for someone
else, like they can feel thatfor me, or like I can feel that
for myself.
So, yeah, it was truly like inthe context of other people that
I started realizing you knowmore about myself.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Yes, and that that brings me to this really key
thing that I'm hearing like whenthe sense of community right
Like it sounds like you weresurrounded by others there's
this interconnectedness that iscore value of your beliefs, this
sense of community andcollaboration and learning from
others.
(13:26):
Share with us a little bitabout how you see community.
Others share with us a littlebit about how you see community.
It sounds like you're even youbuilt a community right With
there now in Cleveland andthrough your business.
So, yeah, talk to me a littlebit about how community can help
, because I think now withtechnology is incredible,
because we can have thesedigital communities we can have
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in-person communities, and Ithink at the same time, there's
research that we are feelingmore isolated than ever, and so
I think, there's like thistransformative power in
community I've never talkedabout on this podcast, so I'd
love to hear your perspective onthe importance of community.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Yeah, yeah.
So I mean, I think it is one ofthose things where you know we
are, in general, like innately,biologically, beings that
gravitate towards other beings,and I feel like the more we
isolate and especially you knowwe saw with COVID kind of the
worse it gets.
It's almost attractive, in away, to not have to go out, to
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not have to do things, to nothave to be busy, and like
there's something to be said fortaking true rest and relaxation
and time for yourself.
But there also is just suchimmense power in support and,
you know, higher vibrations withother individuals.
And so, like I said, for mepersonally, on my own healing
journey, it was one of thosethings where I feel like I
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started actually healing when Iwas surrounded by other people
who were very supportive of meand very understanding, and so I
think it's like such a buzzword, right, like we say things like
community, we say things likepassion or wellness.
What does that even mean?
And I think, like you know,there might be similar
connotations that we all have inour brains when you hear those
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words.
But, um, you know, to mecommunity is truly just, uh, a
group of individuals,like-minded or not, uh, who are,
you know, there to support eachother, there to um, grow in
different ways.
Uh, and one of the things thatis a core ethos, at least at Pop
Life, and what we're trying tobuild together, is that everyone
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has something to offer.
Also, conversely, everyone hassomething to learn.
So we're really trying to makeit a place where you have the
table to offer what you can.
You have the place to, you know, really list out your passions,
to explore them, to talk aboutthem, to discuss the things that
you're good at, that you haveknowledge about, you know, and
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then, to the other side of it, aplace to really learn and grow
in those ways that you'reinterested in doing.
So, and I think so.
For me, it's community is oneof those things where you know
you're building somethingtogether and you're really
creating a new social construct.
You know something that oursocial construct, you know, if
we look at it on a more highlevel, to me it's it's kind of
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in trouble.
Right now, our country is, youknow, more divisive and divided
than ever, but, you know,unfortunately, I think we're
just not realizing that we havemore that connects us than you
know, we're willing toacknowledge and to look at.
So, yeah, that's just, you know, wanting to build something
together and also really wantingto support each other in a way
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that's not just word salad, it'snot just you know words just to
say it, it's actual, actualsupport.
And what that means is, youknow, celebrating victories when
someone else achieves something, and that is, you know, if
somebody needs something, beingthere to provide it.
There's this documentary calledHappy that I talk about
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seriously, probably once a week.
It's my favorite documentary ofall time.
I have not seen that.
Oh, it's so good.
It was on Netflix for a while Idon't think it is anymore, but,
um, so it's the study of humanhappiness, and they went through
all different cultures all overthe entire world, uh, and they
gave people just kind of theopportunity to ascribe a level
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of happiness to themselves.
So some people, for example,they went to Wall Street and
they would ask people what makesyou happy, and everyone that's
walking by says money, money.
But they look very miserable,they don't look happy at all.
And then there was, for example, this man who literally lived
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in a hut and it had a mud floorand he was so happy.
You could just see the joyradiating from his face, like
you could feel it and you know,even through the camera, and you
know he described his life andhe's surrounded by friends,
family, community, and that waseverything he needed.
So the documentary itself madeno conclusions but it did give
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an opportunity to kind of lookat all of these different
cultures and they found culturesthat focused more on community,
on building things together, onnot dividing, you know, by even
by family, necessarily like thegroups and communities that
would do dinners together and,you know, group activities.
They rated themselves as muchhappier than you know these
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other communities where peoplewere just kind of isolated in
their you know, separate littleboxes.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
I need to check out the documentary, but, yeah, I
love that and you bringing upthat we have more that unites us
, then divides us and reallylooking at like that key to the
happiness, I think that's that'shuge.
Yeah, no, I think it's soinspiring and to be able to
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create a space where that'savailable for people, right,
that's what, like it sounds likeyou've created this, like
through your background, yourtraining, your leadership skills
.
Before recording, I know youmentioned like you used to talk
in front of like hundreds ofpeople, right, so like, yeah,
taking like all your experiences, right, and like transforming
into this, like pouring it intothis opportunity to bring like
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healing and happiness, right,and wellness, um, for others.
I think that's incredible.
So I just I, I love thisopportunity to connect with
people that are like lights inthe world, right, like being a
light and like amplifying thatlight, and you know you're
amplifying the lights and others.
I think that's great.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Yeah, well, and that's the goal I mean.
So the center, it was this ideaI would talk to.
So, like I said, I'm one ofseven kids, you know huge family
and a few of my siblings and Iwould.
I was working at an investmentbank at the time and it was just
really long hours, reallydifficult work, and I would just
talk to them about doingsomething that was just
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completely positive.
Because there's so much, I feltlike I was just surrounded by a
lot of negativity, even in theworkplace.
It would just be like silentall day.
People would just be head down,work, work, work, work, and it
was like this.
But this is life, you know,like this is our lives and what
are we doing.
And so we originally weretalking about starting something
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like an app that would be likeReddit, but for just purely
positivity.
You are not allowed to likealmost like a mental diet as
well.
Positivity you are not allowedto like almost like a mental
diet as well.
Like we're not allowed to sayanything negative or think
anything negative, but youreally like train yourself to
not look at things, um, you know, from a negative way, and once
you start doing that for a while, everything changes.
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You know, like the world kindof opens up, um so for.
So for me, you know, I startedreally thinking very seriously
about opening a center thatwould kind of take everything
holistically so mind, body, soul, but a little bit more than
that, wanting to focus on thephysical, the mental, emotional,
spiritual, like all theseaspects that comprise a happy,
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healthy human being, with thebelief that if one of those
areas is truly lacking or, youknow, there's something that's
like kind of off or imbalanced,you know you're not going to be
able to achieve your mostfulfilled, satisfied, happy self
.
So the center started as, kindof, you know, first an app, and
then we were like, well, what ifwe had a place?
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You know that people could goto that.
It would be the physicalmanifestation, yeah, and then,
um, so, you know, long storyshort, I ended up individually
stumbling into this buildingthat had been created, uh, you
know, with the concept in mind.
It was a little different.
It was more along the lines ofartists to create and become
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fulfilled through that avenue.
But in my eyes, everyone is anartist.
You can be an artist, like Isaid, bringing up math or
anything that's even veryanalytical.
Everyone is an artist in theirown ways.
It truly is just putting outwhat makes your soul get set on
fire, what really feeds yourbrain, what really makes
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everything just kind of buzz andalign and resonate.
So, yeah, like the center thatwe have has a cafe with food
that is 100% nutritious, all wewant is clean, healthy, down to
the energy that's put into itwhile it's being cooked.
All of it is really thought ofand just wanting it to be the
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cleanest possible fuel that wecan have for an individual.
And then we have our studiosupstairs where it's just wanting
non-denominational fitness.
So obviously I love yoga.
That's how I connect to theflow state, but that's not the
only way to connect.
You can connect your mind, yourbody, your soul through, you
know, breathing techniques,through running, through boxing,
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even anything that you'rereally have practiced with your
body enough that your body isable to forget your mind and you
can just, you know, trulymeditate while you're doing it.
And so we do have, you know,pit classes, kettlebell classes,
just dance, like all differentkinds of things we're wanting to
bring in and start to likeinculcate into the community.
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And then we have a really bigdownstairs space where the
hopeful, you know, extension ofit will be something that is
similar to meetupcom, but inreal form.
So here's our community.
You can have clubs, you canhave groups, you can have
anything that all members canreally join and you're able to
do and wanting to do TED Talks.
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So we want to have people thatare all in the community that
can just teach people differentthings.
So, for example, one of mybrothers, his soul is set on
fire with tax law and I mean hejust is.
You know my last name's Rogers.
He is Mr Rogers, sounded likethe same, you know, but, um, you
know like I would love to havehim come in and do a discussion
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on how do you do your taxes?
How does it work?
Yeah, Right, like whatever itis that people can offer and
want to offer, just having aplace to do that.
Yeah, we're really just here tofacilitate other people on
their journey in a way that isas non-denominational as
possible, as like notprescriptive or directive, just
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really giving people the toolsand letting them, you know, find
themselves through it.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
This is incredible.
I wish you were in, like everycity.
I was like this would beincredible.
Maybe that's like a dream, Idon't know.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
Yeah, that actually, that actually is the dream.
And even just having it bealmost like like the pay it
forward effect, right, likehaving it be something where
it's like no, it's truly.
I think that there is a hugeyearning in people for community
, for connection, fornourishment.
So I think there is a place forpositive communities everywhere
.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
Yes, this is amazing and that this is now your
workplace, like I'm justpicturing, like the contrast
right From like before, likethis is your place of work too.
It's just so many things for somany people.
I think that's incredible.
Well, I think my last question.
You know we're talking aboutthis like change and like things
that you know when you madechanges in your life and as
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change is happening internallyor like with the mind, you know
changing our mindset differentthings like that for people who
are going through a change rightnow.
I think there are a lot ofpeople right now, um, going
through some kind oftransformation, going through
changes or wanting to create achange in their life.
(25:49):
What would you share in termsof how to embrace the change,
how to start the change, embracethe change, adapt to change or
respond to change?
What would you share about that?
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Yeah, I mean, I think there's all different kinds of
tools that can really help tofacilitate it.
Changing anything is verydifficult because by the time
you're 30, your pathways and theway you think and the way you
interpret the world, and evendown to the patterns and the
habits that you engage in on aday-to-day basis, are really
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well-defined.
So, for our bodies, even neededchange, even healthy change,
feels really awful sometimes.
That's why it's hard to createa physical routine if that's not
something that you've done orbeen doing.
It's hard to create a healthymental routine, it's hard to do
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anything truly if it is a fullchange, and so I think my best
advice, or what I would say, istruly trust yourself, let
yourself.
I would start with meditation,because to me that is has always
been the most impactful thingthat I ever do, and meditation
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comes in all different forms andwhat resonates for some people
resonates differently for others.
Um, but truly, what it boilsdown to is quieting your mind
and letting yourself speak, soyou know, and just really being
able to hear yourself.
So it it would be to giveyourself the time and space to
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think about who you are and whatyou are and what do you want to
be and a lot of times you knowwhen people are unhappy and they
want to change.
There's a lot of environmentalfactors, you know that surround
that.
So sometimes it's requiring youto remove yourself from an
environment that is a veryingrained, that has, you know, a
huge overreaching web of.
(27:49):
You know different factors andramifications from that change.
So it's just trusting in yourgut that it will all be okay and
it always is right, likethere's time is infinite.
You know in one year from now ifyou do or say something that
won't matter, then you know,don't hold onto it, don't have
anxiety over it.
(28:10):
Just you know tell yourselflike, look in a year you you
might not even remember that infive years where do you want to
be and what do you need to donow you know to get there and,
um, you know a lot of timespeople know that.
But that first step is alwaysthe hardest.
It's a what do they say inbusiness?
We fly wheel or the mill wheel.
I always get this wrong, butit's really hard to start.
(28:32):
But once you start moving itgoes faster and faster and
creates more and more friction.
Right and so trusting in thatas well, the hardest step is the
first one.
That's why getting to the gym Ithink it's like the 40% of like
the hardest part is justgetting there, just showing up.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
You know, I love that and showing up with your like
there's so many paths like youmentioned, like getting
understanding that and showingup with your like there's so
many paths like you mentionedlike getting your understanding,
like showing up for yourself.
Really, it's like showing upfor yourself.
Yeah, I love that.
I love that being in tune.
What is the best way to get ahold of you?
This for those listening andthey're like, oh my gosh, I want
(29:09):
to learn more.
How do I um fly out toCleveland, ohio or?
like how do I connect?
How?
Is the best way for people toreach you.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
Yeah, so, uh, you can check out our, either our
Instagram we're at pop life, soP O P L I, f, e, c, l E or or
you can reach out to me throughemail at poplifeconnection at
gmailcom.
And yeah, our website also,like any form of connect to us,
(29:43):
will get to me.
That's awesome.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
I love that.
I love that.
Well, biz, thank you so muchfor being a part of our wellness
journey today.
I feel like this is soencouraging and so needed right
now for a lot of people feelinglike divided, lacking community,
like needing to make shifts.
There's change.
How do I embrace it?
Learning to really also be okaywith thinking of like, how do I
(30:12):
look at my own wellbeing, like,how do I prioritize my wellness
?
How do I embrace change?
How do I take control of my ownlife?
So thank you so much for foryour insight, you sharing your
vulnerability, like yourauthentic story, with us too,
and just thank you so much forbeing a part of this wellness
journey.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
Yeah, absolutely.
Thank you so much for having meand, yeah, if anybody does have
any questions, issues, you knowanything, please feel free to
reach out.
I'm always here, even as justan ear as well.
All right, thank you, thank you.
Welcome, friends, to another episode of the
Telewellness Hub podcast.
Today, I get to speak withElizabeth Rogers, ceo of PopLife
, a wellness space in Cleveland,and also she's a certified yoga
instructor.
We're going to get to talk alittle bit about the wellness
space that she has that blendscreativity, community and
(00:22):
personal transformation.
With a background in law,investment, banking and
operational strategy, biztransitioned from a successful
legal and finance career toentrepreneurship and in 2018,
she became a certified yogainstructor in Bali, which
deepened her passion forwellness and reshaped her
(00:43):
leadership approach At PopLife.
She combines her diverseprofessional experience with a
commitment to empoweringindividuals through holistic
programs and transformativeexperiences.
Welcome.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Thank you, thank you, I'm so glad to be here.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Yes, before we hit record, I was already really
getting excited to hear it.
That is a big leap from thislaw, world and industry to what
you're doing now, and so I can'twait to hear a little bit about
that transition.
And before we do, I want toknow a little bit more about why
do you do the wellness workthat you do?
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Yeah.
So I guess, to kick it off,everyone in their lives have
these journeys that you kind ofgo on, and sometimes, for me
personally, it was one of thosethings where when especially
when I turned 31, I started torealize my life was not
necessarily my life.
All of these decisions that I'dmade up to this point weren't
because I wanted to make them,it was just because it was like
checking the boxes.
It was the right things to do,and I was in at that point in
(01:56):
time, a marriage that was veryunfulfilling, a job that was
really demanding.
But the only thing that I likedabout it was my title in it,
just not the work, nothingreally else about it.
So for me it was the start ofthis journey to be the happiest,
healthiest person I possiblycould be on this planet.
And once I started really goingdown that path, I realized that
(02:19):
, while it might look differentfor every single individual, we
all have the capacity, theability, the propensity to be
our happiest, healthiest selves.
So it became this thing I wasreally passionate about, you
know having this wellness spacefor myself, having the ability
to search for health andwellness for myself, but also to
(02:41):
really introduce people to thethoughts to the mindset really
that, um, you know they can be,do, have anything and achieve
anything.
So yeah, that's where it allstarted.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Yeah, that's incredible.
I I appreciate you sharingbecause I think, um there,
everyone's journey into like thedecisions they made right and
to the space that they're in,especially a wellness space it
comes from.
I've learned over the time ofthis podcast, like from their
own transformation and a deepintention and a passion.
(03:12):
I think that's something thatyou keep hearing and I love
hearing the story behind thepassion, Like why are you doing
this work?
And there's always this passion.
I love hearing about that.
And just, it was so cool tohear you talk about like being
okay, diverting from the thingsthat check the box.
Yes, I feel like I bet that'sreally empowering for your own
(03:37):
clients, for you to like modelthrough that right Like to for
you to be able to know what itlooks like to make decisions, to
follow a different path,because it can take a lot of
courage, I think.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Yeah, absolutely, and for me personally.
So I grew up in a really bigIrish Catholic family.
We were one of seven kids, sosomething that was instilled in
us was financial insecurity at avery young age.
So, you know, wanting to pursuethings that provided stability,
security in ways that you thinklike, oh, this is important,
(04:13):
this is what success looks likein society, this is what, you
know, we should really strivefor.
But then realizing, you knownone of that matters.
Money is energy.
You know everything that we dois actually, in fact, energy.
And when you start to reallytake a look around and realize
you know, listen to yourself,listen to whatever you know,
(04:35):
your inner voice is saying.
I think powerful, magicalthings do happen and it is
difficult to make a big lifechange just because the unknown
is the unknown.
You don't know what you don'tknow and you know.
For that reason it can be scary, but I also think it's one of
the most powerful, impactfulthings that you can do is just
(04:57):
really tune in and start tofollow.
You know what your own soul issaying.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
Yeah, I love that.
That's so powerful.
One of the things I reallywanted to talk to you about in
this episode is just your ownexperience and insight, with
your background, on like thisidea of taking control of your
life.
With so much uncertainty, somuch, you cannot control what
that looks like.
So I don't know if you canshare with with listeners a
(05:24):
little bit about what thatprocess looks like.
So I don't know if you canshare with listeners a little
bit about what that processlooks like.
I feel like that segued alittle bit into it right, like
taking control of your life,like what that looks like and
what are some of the majorblocks that people typically
have when it comes to that andhow to overcome it.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Yeah.
So for me at least, andespecially in the industries
that I started cutting my teethin, it was just super demanding
and there was such a box thatyou needed to really fit into
and it was just well-establishedand well-understood.
These are the behaviors youexhibit, this is the work that
you do, these are the hours thatyou spend doing it, and
(06:03):
everything's just very work thatyou do.
These are the hours that youspend doing it and you know,
everything's just very contrivedand, in a way, very controlled.
So you know, when I got to thepoint where I started realizing
this is not what sets my soul onfire, this is not, you know,
fulfillment, which to me isdoing the things that make your
brain buzz, doing the thingsthat really feed you.
And it doesn't matter whatthose things are.
You could be a mathematicianand you could be sitting at a
(06:26):
computer, you know crunchingnumbers.
If that sets your soul on fireand you are fulfilled, that is
truly worth pursuing, you know,and that's where passion kind of
comes into play.
But for me it was one of thosethings where, when I was on my
journey, my life kind of kickedme out of it.
So I was in a marriage that wasnot in any way serving me.
(06:47):
I was living, actually, in thelocation of my ex-husband,
surrounded by his friends, hisfamily, and he also just wasn't
very nice.
Things were his way or no way.
And then my job was just one ofthose things where I found
fulfillment in certain things,like in my title.
But then I realized, like noneof this matters, like none of it
(07:10):
, none of it matters.
And we to get a little personalwere trying to have kids and I
ended up having a reallyhorrible miscarriage and being
told you might never be able tohave kids.
And all at once I realized, um,and I mean, everything's okay,
I actually have two lovelydaughters now, and like things
(07:30):
are fantastic.
But, um, I really realized thatmy ex-husband was not this
person that I wanted to havekids with because I didn't want
them to be like him.
And then I realized you know myjob, I just didn't care about
it.
And then I realized you know myenvironment, like all of these
things you're kind of likehanging your hat and identity on
were not things that Inecessarily wanted to identify
(07:51):
myself with.
So I distinctly remember theday then my company that I was
working for sold, so they calledme, and this was all within a
month period of time.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
This is a lot for one person.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Yeah, yeah, and it was all within a month where you
know all these things kind ofstarted happening.
And so my company called andthey said we are selling, so you
know, we're giving you a greatseverance package, but you're
going to have to find anotherplace of employment.
And I just sat and like laughed.
I wasn't upset, I didn't cry, Ijust realized like my universe
(08:25):
was kicking me out of it.
But I actually had beenmanifesting that all along,
because I think I realized likethis was not fulfilling.
This wasn't you know what I waslooking for.
So I ended up moving back hometo my parents' house that I
hadn't lived in since I was 18,just starting college, and it
was one of those things where itwas somewhat humbling, but also
just exactly where I needed tobe.
(08:47):
And in losing control, I thinkI gained my sense of self and
realizing that you know youcan't control anything, but your
mindset truly, and your mindsetis where everything stems from.
Uh, it was the most freeingthing in the entire world and I
still look back.
I was only there for threeweeks before I decided to move
to Bali, get my teacher trainingand just kind of look at my
(09:10):
life differently.
But yeah, I just look back inthat time with such fondness,
because it was such a justrelinquishing of control.
But instead of bringing in fear, it actually brought such
relief.
It was really empowering, Iguess.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
That is incredible, and also I.
I find it amazing that I didn'tknow any of this in your
background when we got connected.
But I we have so many parallels.
Because I went through adivorce, I found myself moving
in with my parents.
I had not lived with them sinceI was 18, you know, college,
grad school, like was in myex-husband's world a little bit
(09:50):
before and found myself doingyoga teacher training after my
divorce.
It's kind of not in Bali, thatwould be incredible but really
like kind of starting all overand I could relate and I think a
lot of people can relate tothat feeling of like sometimes
things are destroyed so you canput them back together yeah in
like an incredible way.
(10:10):
I I had a an amazing colleaguewho told me once like stained
glass windows can only be madefrom pieces of like broken glass
right, yes, I love that too.
So, just like, what a testamentto you creating this amazing
life from what some people couldconsider like okay, like like
things fell apart, but you likecreated something beautiful from
(10:33):
from it and having peace, andprobably having peace while
relinquishing control in a sense.
Right Like, in the sense ofletting go of of certain
circumstances and doing what youcould to to make decisions in
your life, because I thinkthat's not an easy thing to do.
(10:54):
So.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Yeah, no, not at all.
You know, and it was withinthat journey that you know, like
, obviously I was focused onmyself at that time.
But, you know, when I startedsharing my story, like
especially when I was doing theyoga teacher training year, I
was with people from all overthe world and started realizing,
like everyone holds on totrauma right, like we all carry
(11:19):
things that have happened to usand some things that have
happened to people are trulyobjectively awful and it's
really interesting to see youknow what happens after to this
individual.
Do they, you know, what happensafter to this individual?
Do they, you know, kind ofsuccumb to it or do they, you
know, take it and grow from it?
And it was also one of thosethings where I realized that
(11:40):
shame and guilt just have noplace in this world for anything
, for anyone, in anycircumstance.
And I truly think that, justbecause you know even the most
awful things, the most awfulpeople, all of it stems from
experiences.
We are the sum total of all ofour experiences that have led us
to being.
You know exactly who and whatwe are at this point in time.
(12:01):
I also, like my own personalbelief, is that we are all one.
So you know all of ourcollective experiences.
There is a place and there is,you know, a scientific basis
behind our connections together.
So you know, looking at all ofus differently or saying in a
really judgmental way, Iwouldn't do that or I wouldn't
do this, it's like, no, youactually probably would, had you
(12:23):
taken that walk through lifethat you know that other
individual did.
So it was really starting tolisten to all of these other
experiences that people had thatI truly started to heal because
I realized, like I didn't, Idon't need to hold onto this
because I'm not judging them forwhat happened to themselves.
So why am I judging me, youknow, and, um, I didn't have to.
(12:43):
Or you know, like you hearother people's stories and you
feel just, uh, like I can'tbelieve that happened to you.
That's really awful, but youfeel still love for them and
it's like, oh my gosh, you knowif I can feel that for someone
else, like they can feel thatfor me, or like I can feel that
for myself.
So, yeah, it was truly like inthe context of other people that
I started realizing you knowmore about myself.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Yes, and that that brings me to this really key
thing that I'm hearing like whenthe sense of community right
Like it sounds like you weresurrounded by others there's
this interconnectedness that iscore value of your beliefs, this
sense of community andcollaboration and learning from
others.
(13:26):
Share with us a little bitabout how you see community.
Others share with us a littlebit about how you see community.
It sounds like you're even youbuilt a community right With
there now in Cleveland andthrough your business.
So, yeah, talk to me a littlebit about how community can help
, because I think now withtechnology is incredible,
because we can have thesedigital communities we can have
(13:47):
in-person communities, and Ithink at the same time, there's
research that we are feelingmore isolated than ever, and so
I think, there's like thistransformative power in
community I've never talkedabout on this podcast, so I'd
love to hear your perspective onthe importance of community.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Yeah, yeah.
So I mean, I think it is one ofthose things where you know we
are, in general, like innately,biologically, beings that
gravitate towards other beings,and I feel like the more we
isolate and especially you knowwe saw with COVID kind of the
worse it gets.
It's almost attractive, in away, to not have to go out, to
(14:29):
not have to do things, to nothave to be busy, and like
there's something to be said fortaking true rest and relaxation
and time for yourself.
But there also is just suchimmense power in support and,
you know, higher vibrations withother individuals.
And so, like I said, for mepersonally, on my own healing
journey, it was one of thosethings where I feel like I
(14:51):
started actually healing when Iwas surrounded by other people
who were very supportive of meand very understanding, and so I
think it's like such a buzzword, right, like we say things like
community, we say things likepassion or wellness.
What does that even mean?
And I think, like you know,there might be similar
connotations that we all have inour brains when you hear those
(15:13):
words.
But, um, you know, to mecommunity is truly just, uh, a
group of individuals,like-minded or not, uh, who are,
you know, there to support eachother, there to um, grow in
different ways.
Uh, and one of the things thatis a core ethos, at least at Pop
Life, and what we're trying tobuild together, is that everyone
(15:37):
has something to offer.
Also, conversely, everyone hassomething to learn.
So we're really trying to makeit a place where you have the
table to offer what you can.
You have the place to, you know, really list out your passions,
to explore them, to talk aboutthem, to discuss the things that
you're good at, that you haveknowledge about, you know, and
(16:00):
then, to the other side of it, aplace to really learn and grow
in those ways that you'reinterested in doing.
So, and I think so.
For me, it's community is oneof those things where you know
you're building somethingtogether and you're really
creating a new social construct.
You know something that oursocial construct, you know, if
we look at it on a more highlevel, to me it's it's kind of
(16:23):
in trouble.
Right now, our country is, youknow, more divisive and divided
than ever, but, you know,unfortunately, I think we're
just not realizing that we havemore that connects us than you
know, we're willing toacknowledge and to look at.
So, yeah, that's just, you know, wanting to build something
together and also really wantingto support each other in a way
(16:45):
that's not just word salad, it'snot just you know words just to
say it, it's actual, actualsupport.
And what that means is, youknow, celebrating victories when
someone else achieves something, and that is, you know, if
somebody needs something, beingthere to provide it.
There's this documentary calledHappy that I talk about
(17:07):
seriously, probably once a week.
It's my favorite documentary ofall time.
I have not seen that.
Oh, it's so good.
It was on Netflix for a while Idon't think it is anymore, but,
um, so it's the study of humanhappiness, and they went through
all different cultures all overthe entire world, uh, and they
gave people just kind of theopportunity to ascribe a level
(17:27):
of happiness to themselves.
So some people, for example,they went to Wall Street and
they would ask people what makesyou happy, and everyone that's
walking by says money, money.
But they look very miserable,they don't look happy at all.
And then there was, for example, this man who literally lived
(17:48):
in a hut and it had a mud floorand he was so happy.
You could just see the joyradiating from his face, like
you could feel it and you know,even through the camera, and you
know he described his life andhe's surrounded by friends,
family, community, and that waseverything he needed.
So the documentary itself madeno conclusions but it did give
(18:11):
an opportunity to kind of lookat all of these different
cultures and they found culturesthat focused more on community,
on building things together, onnot dividing, you know, by even
by family, necessarily like thegroups and communities that
would do dinners together and,you know, group activities.
They rated themselves as muchhappier than you know these
(18:34):
other communities where peoplewere just kind of isolated in
their you know, separate littleboxes.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
I need to check out the documentary, but, yeah, I
love that and you bringing upthat we have more that unites us
, then divides us and reallylooking at like that key to the
happiness, I think that's that'shuge.
Yeah, no, I think it's soinspiring and to be able to
(19:02):
create a space where that'savailable for people, right,
that's what, like it sounds likeyou've created this, like
through your background, yourtraining, your leadership skills
.
Before recording, I know youmentioned like you used to talk
in front of like hundreds ofpeople, right, so like, yeah,
taking like all your experiences, right, and like transforming
into this, like pouring it intothis opportunity to bring like
(19:25):
healing and happiness, right,and wellness, um, for others.
I think that's incredible.
So I just I, I love thisopportunity to connect with
people that are like lights inthe world, right, like being a
light and like amplifying thatlight, and you know you're
amplifying the lights and others.
I think that's great.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Yeah, well, and that's the goal I mean.
So the center, it was this ideaI would talk to.
So, like I said, I'm one ofseven kids, you know huge family
and a few of my siblings and Iwould.
I was working at an investmentbank at the time and it was just
really long hours, reallydifficult work, and I would just
talk to them about doingsomething that was just
(20:05):
completely positive.
Because there's so much, I feltlike I was just surrounded by a
lot of negativity, even in theworkplace.
It would just be like silentall day.
People would just be head down,work, work, work, work, and it
was like this.
But this is life, you know,like this is our lives and what
are we doing.
And so we originally weretalking about starting something
(20:27):
like an app that would be likeReddit, but for just purely
positivity.
You are not allowed to likealmost like a mental diet as
well.
Positivity you are not allowedto like almost like a mental
diet as well.
Like we're not allowed to sayanything negative or think
anything negative, but youreally like train yourself to
not look at things, um, you know, from a negative way, and once
you start doing that for a while, everything changes.
(20:49):
You know, like the world kindof opens up, um so for.
So for me, you know, I startedreally thinking very seriously
about opening a center thatwould kind of take everything
holistically so mind, body, soul, but a little bit more than
that, wanting to focus on thephysical, the mental, emotional,
spiritual, like all theseaspects that comprise a happy,
(21:11):
healthy human being, with thebelief that if one of those
areas is truly lacking or, youknow, there's something that's
like kind of off or imbalanced,you know you're not going to be
able to achieve your mostfulfilled, satisfied, happy self
.
So the center started as, kindof, you know, first an app, and
then we were like, well, what ifwe had a place?
(21:32):
You know that people could goto that.
It would be the physicalmanifestation, yeah, and then,
um, so, you know, long storyshort, I ended up individually
stumbling into this buildingthat had been created, uh, you
know, with the concept in mind.
It was a little different.
It was more along the lines ofartists to create and become
(21:55):
fulfilled through that avenue.
But in my eyes, everyone is anartist.
You can be an artist, like Isaid, bringing up math or
anything that's even veryanalytical.
Everyone is an artist in theirown ways.
It truly is just putting outwhat makes your soul get set on
fire, what really feeds yourbrain, what really makes
(22:16):
everything just kind of buzz andalign and resonate.
So, yeah, like the center thatwe have has a cafe with food
that is 100% nutritious, all wewant is clean, healthy, down to
the energy that's put into itwhile it's being cooked.
All of it is really thought ofand just wanting it to be the
(22:40):
cleanest possible fuel that wecan have for an individual.
And then we have our studiosupstairs where it's just wanting
non-denominational fitness.
So obviously I love yoga.
That's how I connect to theflow state, but that's not the
only way to connect.
You can connect your mind, yourbody, your soul through, you
know, breathing techniques,through running, through boxing,
(23:03):
even anything that you'rereally have practiced with your
body enough that your body isable to forget your mind and you
can just, you know, trulymeditate while you're doing it.
And so we do have, you know,pit classes, kettlebell classes,
just dance, like all differentkinds of things we're wanting to
bring in and start to likeinculcate into the community.
(23:23):
And then we have a really bigdownstairs space where the
hopeful, you know, extension ofit will be something that is
similar to meetupcom, but inreal form.
So here's our community.
You can have clubs, you canhave groups, you can have
anything that all members canreally join and you're able to
do and wanting to do TED Talks.
(23:45):
So we want to have people thatare all in the community that
can just teach people differentthings.
So, for example, one of mybrothers, his soul is set on
fire with tax law and I mean hejust is.
You know my last name's Rogers.
He is Mr Rogers, sounded likethe same, you know, but, um, you
know like I would love to havehim come in and do a discussion
(24:07):
on how do you do your taxes?
How does it work?
Yeah, Right, like whatever itis that people can offer and
want to offer, just having aplace to do that.
Yeah, we're really just here tofacilitate other people on
their journey in a way that isas non-denominational as
possible, as like notprescriptive or directive, just
(24:30):
really giving people the toolsand letting them, you know, find
themselves through it.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
This is incredible.
I wish you were in, like everycity.
I was like this would beincredible.
Maybe that's like a dream, Idon't know.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
Yeah, that actually, that actually is the dream.
And even just having it bealmost like like the pay it
forward effect, right, likehaving it be something where
it's like no, it's truly.
I think that there is a hugeyearning in people for community
, for connection, fornourishment.
So I think there is a place forpositive communities everywhere
.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
Yes, this is amazing and that this is now your
workplace, like I'm justpicturing, like the contrast
right From like before, likethis is your place of work too.
It's just so many things for somany people.
I think that's incredible.
Well, I think my last question.
You know we're talking aboutthis like change and like things
that you know when you madechanges in your life and as
(25:27):
change is happening internallyor like with the mind, you know
changing our mindset differentthings like that for people who
are going through a change rightnow.
I think there are a lot ofpeople right now, um, going
through some kind oftransformation, going through
changes or wanting to create achange in their life.
(25:49):
What would you share in termsof how to embrace the change,
how to start the change, embracethe change, adapt to change or
respond to change?
What would you share about that?
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Yeah, I mean, I think there's all different kinds of
tools that can really help tofacilitate it.
Changing anything is verydifficult because by the time
you're 30, your pathways and theway you think and the way you
interpret the world, and evendown to the patterns and the
habits that you engage in on aday-to-day basis, are really
(26:23):
well-defined.
So, for our bodies, even neededchange, even healthy change,
feels really awful sometimes.
That's why it's hard to createa physical routine if that's not
something that you've done orbeen doing.
It's hard to create a healthymental routine, it's hard to do
(26:44):
anything truly if it is a fullchange, and so I think my best
advice, or what I would say, istruly trust yourself, let
yourself.
I would start with meditation,because to me that is has always
been the most impactful thingthat I ever do, and meditation
(27:04):
comes in all different forms andwhat resonates for some people
resonates differently for others.
Um, but truly, what it boilsdown to is quieting your mind
and letting yourself speak, soyou know, and just really being
able to hear yourself.
So it it would be to giveyourself the time and space to
(27:28):
think about who you are and whatyou are and what do you want to
be and a lot of times you knowwhen people are unhappy and they
want to change.
There's a lot of environmentalfactors, you know that surround
that.
So sometimes it's requiring youto remove yourself from an
environment that is a veryingrained, that has, you know, a
huge overreaching web of.
(27:49):
You know different factors andramifications from that change.
So it's just trusting in yourgut that it will all be okay and
it always is right, likethere's time is infinite.
You know in one year from now ifyou do or say something that
won't matter, then you know,don't hold onto it, don't have
anxiety over it.
(28:10):
Just you know tell yourselflike, look in a year you you
might not even remember that infive years where do you want to
be and what do you need to donow you know to get there and,
um, you know a lot of timespeople know that.
But that first step is alwaysthe hardest.
It's a what do they say inbusiness?
We fly wheel or the mill wheel.
I always get this wrong, butit's really hard to start.
(28:32):
But once you start moving itgoes faster and faster and
creates more and more friction.
Right and so trusting in thatas well, the hardest step is the
first one.
That's why getting to the gym Ithink it's like the 40% of like
the hardest part is justgetting there, just showing up.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
You know, I love that and showing up with your like
there's so many paths like youmentioned, like getting
understanding that and showingup with your like there's so
many paths like you mentionedlike getting your understanding,
like showing up for yourself.
Really, it's like showing upfor yourself.
Yeah, I love that.
I love that being in tune.
What is the best way to get ahold of you?
This for those listening andthey're like, oh my gosh, I want
(29:09):
to learn more.
How do I um fly out toCleveland, ohio or?
like how do I connect?
How?
Is the best way for people toreach you.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
Yeah, so, uh, you can check out our, either our
Instagram we're at pop life, soP O P L I, f, e, c, l E or or
you can reach out to me throughemail at poplifeconnection at
gmailcom.
And yeah, our website also,like any form of connect to us,
(29:43):
will get to me.
That's awesome.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
I love that.
I love that.
Well, biz, thank you so muchfor being a part of our wellness
journey today.
I feel like this is soencouraging and so needed right
now for a lot of people feelinglike divided, lacking community,
like needing to make shifts.
There's change.
How do I embrace it?
Learning to really also be okaywith thinking of like, how do I
(30:12):
look at my own wellbeing, like,how do I prioritize my wellness
?
How do I embrace change?
How do I take control of my ownlife?
So thank you so much for foryour insight, you sharing your
vulnerability, like yourauthentic story, with us too,
and just thank you so much forbeing a part of this wellness
journey.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
Yeah, absolutely.
Thank you so much for having meand, yeah, if anybody does have
any questions, issues, you knowanything, please feel free to
reach out.
I'm always here, even as justan ear as well.
All right, thank you, thank you.
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