January 21, 2025 • 16 mins
In this episode of 'The Tenth Man,' we delve into the complex interplay between TikTok, democracy, and political backstops. From the attempted ban on TikTok by both the Trump and Biden administrations to the larger implications of the First and Second Amendments, we explore how these legislative battles reflect deeper issues in American governance. The discussion also tackles the TikTok controversy's parallels with landmark rulings like Roe vs. Wade, and the unexpected ways these backstops shape political strategies and public perception. Tune in to understand why President Biden's lack of enforcement on the TikTok ban might just be the real 'threat to democracy.'
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The Tenth Man (00:12):
President Biden needs to call out another threat
to democracy.
As Donald Trump endangers thefree world by saving Tik TOK.
Today.
On the 10th man.
(00:33):
Much of the free world wasalarmed at the prospect of tick
talks going away.
I know I was.
No, just kidding.
If you're on Tik TOK, you'veprobably seen the various
creators leaving there, theirlast will and Testament and
telling people where to find mewhen I go away.
(00:55):
The 10th man does have a ticktock channel.
If you didn't already know that.
And all I figured was, Hey, ifTik TOK goes away, I'll just
have less work to do.
My leisure time being somewhatconstrained ever since the
retirement of misses the 10thman.
For my part, I figured, Hey, ifTik TOK goes away, I'll have
(01:17):
less work to do my leisure timebeing somewhat constrained since
the retirement of Mrs.
The 10th man.
But the way it played out forcreators is, well, Saturday
night we were at a Euchre party.
You'll hear more about thatlater.
And I just decided to check thestatus because it was after
midnight and the ban wassupposedly in effect.
(01:38):
And what I saw was a notesaying, sorry, Tik TOK is down.
I was surprised that it actuallyhappened, but there it was.
So I didn't give too muchthought to it until Sunday
afternoon.
When I saw an alert on my phonethat someone had commented on
one of the Tik TOK videos.
I assumed it was someone in myvast overseas audience, because
(02:02):
they all still had access.
And the Tik TOK app was stillrunning.
I guess you could just couldn'tview or post a video.
Here in the states.
But I went online and there, itwas back up again.
So free speech is saved, butdemocracy is threatened.
All at the same time.
(02:23):
And all, thanks to Donald Trump.
That paradox is importantbecause what's happening here is
another example of what I callthe backstop effect.
We dedicated an episode to thisin season one.
Episode six, talking aboutabortion.
And how the politicians wouldhave to deliver more with the
(02:46):
elimination of Roe vs.
Wade.
While Roe versus Wade was ineffect.
Most people had no idea whatthey were talking about
regarding the subject ofabortion.
Democrats acted like allabortion rights were in jeopardy
when in fact.
That case, which went to theSupreme court under challenge.
(03:07):
Was a law banning abortions in asingle state only.
And only after 15 weeks.
Which is three weeks longer thanyou get in France.
And that's for surgicalabortions.
If you listen to this channel,you, you know that the majority
of abortions were already beingperformed medically nowadays
it's two thirds.
(03:27):
Medically means it's by having aregimen of drugs two different
drugs that you take.
There was only one abortionclinic in the state of
Mississippi.
But the Democrats foolishlypushed that case to the Supreme
court.
And they lost everything.
But simply blaming Trump workedfor all their previous failures
(03:48):
and that's what they lean onthis time as well.
But more important.
The Republicans lost theirbackstop.
You see, a lot of us are againstabortion, but are agnostic on
abortion laws believing we cando far more for the cause with
education than we can with laws.
(04:10):
And if you're in favor ofabortion laws, that's fine.
We can still get along.
As far as I'm concerned.
But the lazy Republicans inmoderate or swing states.
Could always campaign on aradical anti-abortion stance.
Knowing that the Roe versus Wadebackstop would cover them.
Keep them from ever having toactually deliver on strong
(04:33):
anti-abortion laws promised.
Then of course.
The midterm elections after row.
We're a bloodbath forRepublicans.
Some states enshrined so-calledabortion rights in their
constitutions.
A gross misinterpretation of thepurpose of the document.
(04:54):
But even though.
The issue is now being resolved,state by state, as it should be.
The moderate Republicans havelost that backstop.
And no one has learned anythingby it.
So let's talk about it a littlebit here on this podcast.
And while we're at it, let's askeveryone to get a friend signed
(05:14):
up, to hear this podcast.
We are on other platforms, as wesaid, but podcasts have no
recommendation algorithm.
The only way to grow thischannel.
Is by word of mouth.
Well, maybe some search enginesas well.
But anyway, please tell yourfriends that they can be just as
smart as you are by listening tothe 10th man podcast.
(05:37):
If that makes us both soundpretentious.
Well, There it is.
So again, we are saying no onehas learned anything by the loss
of the Roe versus Wade.
Backstop.
Because the other great backstopis the second amendment.
Just as Republicans couldformerly speak loudly about
(05:59):
their stance on abortion withoutsuffering any real harm from the
opposition, they werebackstopped by Roe vs.
Wade.
Similarly.
Moderate Democrats can blusterand posture over gun control.
Because they're backstopped bythe second amendment.
Heaven help us all if the secondamendment ever goes away,
(06:19):
because that's the main thing,keeping the world mostly at
peace today.
And yes, we are basically atpeace.
If you just compare the presentto the 20th century.
Why is the United States?
The only nation on earth.
That's had the same governmentfor 250 years.
(06:41):
Well, everybody knows.
We're the only nation on earththat has the second amendment.
That is why.
People are always reminding usof things that they do in
Europe.
With the implication that weshould therefore do it here.
The latest uproar is foodcoloring that supposedly gives
rats cancer.
(07:02):
If they take mega doses of it.
That's probably the worstpossible reason to do something.
Copying Europe.
And this has been Americalargely on its own enforcing the
peace.
For the last 80 years.
Thanks to the second amendment.
But at the second amendment didgo away.
(07:24):
The very next thing that wouldhappen.
Just before the end ofcivilization that is.
Would be another bloodbath inthe next election when all the
Democrats would be thrown out.
Of course guns would get bannedon both coasts.
Followed by an insurrection.
The real kind of insurrection,not the January 6th kind.
(07:44):
Where all the rural countieswould declare themselves a new
nation.
So, what does this have to dowith tick tock?
Well, it's the same thing.
Only this time.
The backstop is the firstamendment, the one guaranteeing
freedom of speech.
Joe Biden signed legislation inApril of 2024, that would ban
(08:06):
tick talk.
If it were still under Chineseownership at the time the law
took effect.
Why ban Tik TOK.
Well, one reason was supposedlyto protect children.
Privacy groups have complainedthat Tik TOK violates us child
protection laws.
(08:26):
And Tik TOK even hired a formerDisney executive to improve
their reputation.
But he ended up resigning almostimmediately.
So that might be a good reasonto ban tick talk, but it's not a
national security reason.
The wall street journal reportedthat Tik TOK was causing
(08:47):
teenagers to view harmfulmaterial, promoting things like,
uh, Extreme dieting and otherdangerous behavior.
And Tik TOK respondedimmediately after that with new
rules to keep that fromhappening.
Then in 2022.
Buzzfeed reported that ByteDance.
The parent company of tech talkwas accessing non-public
(09:10):
information of its users.
Tik TOK.
Didn't say what they were doingwith the information, but they
did move the data to US-basedOracle servers.
Again, this sounds bad, but notreally a national security
reason.
So much as a monopoly and aprivacy issue.
(09:30):
Meanwhile, the Pentagonrecommended Tik TOK be removed
from all personal and businessphones.
Then in February, 2023.
The white house demanded Tik TOKwould be deleted from all
government issued phones.
And the rationale is that TikTOK is just a propaganda tool of
the Chinese government.
It's algorithm for example, orit's moderators.
(09:53):
I took down videos of citizenprotests in Hong Kong.
Again, censorship like this isbad behavior.
But it does mirror the behaviorof Facebook and Twitter, which
are not Chinese companies yethave done the bidding of at
least one government here in theUnited States.
(10:17):
Government action against TikTOK has taken place under both
Trump and Biden.
Trump announced a potential banin 2020.
He signed an executive order inthe same year, making it illegal
for American companies totransact business with tick
tock.
Then last April, the legal banon Tik TOK was signed by Joe
Biden.
(10:37):
With bi-partisan support.
That band was widely supportedby the owners of Facebook,
YouTube, Instagram, and othersocial media platforms.
No doubt.
Since it is a direct competitor.
But most important.
Both houses of Congress, bothparties.
And the last two presidentssupported the ban.
(11:02):
Interesting that you can say thelast two presidents on January
20th or January 21st.
And you're referring to the sametwo people either way.
And that won't happen againsoon.
So there was a tick talk bandpending.
And yet president Trump andKamala Harris campaign.
Using Tik TOK.
(11:23):
The law was in place in thespring.
Yet both candidates create atick talker counts in the
summer.
And use them to campaign forpresident.
It seems that everybody involvedwas relying on the backstop of
the first amendment.
And expected the courts.
To invalidate the legislation.
(11:44):
That band Tik TOK.
This is a big problem.
Because unlike abortion or gunrights, which are basic ideas.
The ban on Tik TOK implies adeep seated problem.
Inside the software, which noneof us can see.
(12:04):
Normally I laugh at concerns offoreign companies having assets
in the U S.
Back in the 1980s, the Japanesetried to buy the Pan-Am building
in New York city.
Everybody thought this was asecurity threat.
I thought it was merely idiotic.
The Japanese have a nearparanoia about buying
(12:25):
manufactured goods from us.
They would ship us cars,cameras, and computers while we
sent back pieces of paper.
Dollars.
In exchange.
Which they would hoard.
People whined about the tradedeficit, but I never saw a
problem.
We were getting goods.
(12:46):
And they were getting pieces ofpaper.
They were building ScroogeMcDuck money bins.
So good for us.
That made my money morevaluable.
If instead they dumped thesedollars on the market, the value
went down.
All they had to do was thesensible thing.
(13:06):
Engage in fair trade with us.
But they weren't smart enough todo that.
So they went, aha.
We'll buy American real estate.
They made an offer on the Pan-Ambuilding in New York city.
People panicked saying a foreignpower would own an important
building in the U S.
And I said, so what?
(13:27):
They can't take it anywhere.
Well in the outcry, they endedup, they didn't buy the Pan-Am
building, but they boughtRockefeller center and pebble
beach golf club in California.
And they lost their shirts onthat deal.
But the tick talk ban isdifferent.
(13:48):
Real estate is tangible.
And our civil rights abortion.
Gun rights.
Are nearly so.
But none of us really knowswhat's going on inside the Tik
TOK software or on theirservers.
Or what they're doing with thedata.
So, this is more like COVID 19,then those other examples I
(14:08):
gave.
Because we have to rely on thegovernment to tell us what's
going on.
And the COVID 19 record is apoor one.
There probably isn't much toworry about, but then again,
Who's to say.
The president that is the formerpresident.
(14:31):
That is former president Biden.
Stated that he would not enforcethe 20, 24 ban on Tik TOK.
Even though he signed it.
With all the other thousands ofpapers he's signed regarding
pardons for people we've neverheard of.
Along with some we have heardof.
(14:51):
The one signature we all do knowabout is the one he's not going
to act on.
So he apparently is not going tosay that Trump is a threat to
democracy this time.
Letting tic talk off the hook.
Contrary to the law is not athreat to democracy.
According to Biden.
(15:13):
This is concerning because ofall the things Biden has labeled
as a threat to democracy.
This is the one action bypresident Trump, which might
actually be so.
Securing the border, forexample, is the law.
Yeah.
Biden calls, immigrationenforcement, a threat to
democracy.
(15:34):
If Trump issues an executiveorder to save tech talk.
And at this point he has, wellthat's outside the law.
Why isn't that considered athreat?
Executive orders are a tool forthe president to employ in order
to enforce the law.
Not do subverted.
(15:55):
Whether this ban on Tik TOK is agood idea or a bad idea.
Your elected representativeshave sent a bill to the
president.
Which was signed into law.
And upheld by the Supreme court.
It's already survived a Supremecourt challenge.
There's no law, more legal thanthis one.
(16:17):
It may be.
And probably is the case thatall these people in government.
Went through with a ban on TikTOK because it felt good at the
time.
Thinking that the firstamendment would be their
backstop.
And that the Supreme court wouldthrow this law out.
Well, it didn't quite work outthat way.
Did it?
(16:39):
Hashtag threat to democracy.
Hashtag.
Thank you for listening.
President Biden needs to call out another threat
to democracy.
As Donald Trump endangers thefree world by saving Tik TOK.
Today.
On the 10th man.
(00:33):
Much of the free world wasalarmed at the prospect of tick
talks going away.
I know I was.
No, just kidding.
If you're on Tik TOK, you'veprobably seen the various
creators leaving there, theirlast will and Testament and
telling people where to find mewhen I go away.
(00:55):
The 10th man does have a ticktock channel.
If you didn't already know that.
And all I figured was, Hey, ifTik TOK goes away, I'll just
have less work to do.
My leisure time being somewhatconstrained ever since the
retirement of misses the 10thman.
For my part, I figured, Hey, ifTik TOK goes away, I'll have
(01:17):
less work to do my leisure timebeing somewhat constrained since
the retirement of Mrs.
The 10th man.
But the way it played out forcreators is, well, Saturday
night we were at a Euchre party.
You'll hear more about thatlater.
And I just decided to check thestatus because it was after
midnight and the ban wassupposedly in effect.
(01:38):
And what I saw was a notesaying, sorry, Tik TOK is down.
I was surprised that it actuallyhappened, but there it was.
So I didn't give too muchthought to it until Sunday
afternoon.
When I saw an alert on my phonethat someone had commented on
one of the Tik TOK videos.
I assumed it was someone in myvast overseas audience, because
(02:02):
they all still had access.
And the Tik TOK app was stillrunning.
I guess you could just couldn'tview or post a video.
Here in the states.
But I went online and there, itwas back up again.
So free speech is saved, butdemocracy is threatened.
All at the same time.
(02:23):
And all, thanks to Donald Trump.
That paradox is importantbecause what's happening here is
another example of what I callthe backstop effect.
We dedicated an episode to thisin season one.
Episode six, talking aboutabortion.
And how the politicians wouldhave to deliver more with the
(02:46):
elimination of Roe vs.
Wade.
While Roe versus Wade was ineffect.
Most people had no idea whatthey were talking about
regarding the subject ofabortion.
Democrats acted like allabortion rights were in jeopardy
when in fact.
That case, which went to theSupreme court under challenge.
(03:07):
Was a law banning abortions in asingle state only.
And only after 15 weeks.
Which is three weeks longer thanyou get in France.
And that's for surgicalabortions.
If you listen to this channel,you, you know that the majority
of abortions were already beingperformed medically nowadays
it's two thirds.
(03:27):
Medically means it's by having aregimen of drugs two different
drugs that you take.
There was only one abortionclinic in the state of
Mississippi.
But the Democrats foolishlypushed that case to the Supreme
court.
And they lost everything.
But simply blaming Trump workedfor all their previous failures
(03:48):
and that's what they lean onthis time as well.
But more important.
The Republicans lost theirbackstop.
You see, a lot of us are againstabortion, but are agnostic on
abortion laws believing we cando far more for the cause with
education than we can with laws.
(04:10):
And if you're in favor ofabortion laws, that's fine.
We can still get along.
As far as I'm concerned.
But the lazy Republicans inmoderate or swing states.
Could always campaign on aradical anti-abortion stance.
Knowing that the Roe versus Wadebackstop would cover them.
Keep them from ever having toactually deliver on strong
(04:33):
anti-abortion laws promised.
Then of course.
The midterm elections after row.
We're a bloodbath forRepublicans.
Some states enshrined so-calledabortion rights in their
constitutions.
A gross misinterpretation of thepurpose of the document.
(04:54):
But even though.
The issue is now being resolved,state by state, as it should be.
The moderate Republicans havelost that backstop.
And no one has learned anythingby it.
So let's talk about it a littlebit here on this podcast.
And while we're at it, let's askeveryone to get a friend signed
(05:14):
up, to hear this podcast.
We are on other platforms, as wesaid, but podcasts have no
recommendation algorithm.
The only way to grow thischannel.
Is by word of mouth.
Well, maybe some search enginesas well.
But anyway, please tell yourfriends that they can be just as
smart as you are by listening tothe 10th man podcast.
(05:37):
If that makes us both soundpretentious.
Well, There it is.
So again, we are saying no onehas learned anything by the loss
of the Roe versus Wade.
Backstop.
Because the other great backstopis the second amendment.
Just as Republicans couldformerly speak loudly about
(05:59):
their stance on abortion withoutsuffering any real harm from the
opposition, they werebackstopped by Roe vs.
Wade.
Similarly.
Moderate Democrats can blusterand posture over gun control.
Because they're backstopped bythe second amendment.
Heaven help us all if the secondamendment ever goes away,
(06:19):
because that's the main thing,keeping the world mostly at
peace today.
And yes, we are basically atpeace.
If you just compare the presentto the 20th century.
Why is the United States?
The only nation on earth.
That's had the same governmentfor 250 years.
(06:41):
Well, everybody knows.
We're the only nation on earththat has the second amendment.
That is why.
People are always reminding usof things that they do in
Europe.
With the implication that weshould therefore do it here.
The latest uproar is foodcoloring that supposedly gives
rats cancer.
(07:02):
If they take mega doses of it.
That's probably the worstpossible reason to do something.
Copying Europe.
And this has been Americalargely on its own enforcing the
peace.
For the last 80 years.
Thanks to the second amendment.
But at the second amendment didgo away.
(07:24):
The very next thing that wouldhappen.
Just before the end ofcivilization that is.
Would be another bloodbath inthe next election when all the
Democrats would be thrown out.
Of course guns would get bannedon both coasts.
Followed by an insurrection.
The real kind of insurrection,not the January 6th kind.
(07:44):
Where all the rural countieswould declare themselves a new
nation.
So, what does this have to dowith tick tock?
Well, it's the same thing.
Only this time.
The backstop is the firstamendment, the one guaranteeing
freedom of speech.
Joe Biden signed legislation inApril of 2024, that would ban
(08:06):
tick talk.
If it were still under Chineseownership at the time the law
took effect.
Why ban Tik TOK.
Well, one reason was supposedlyto protect children.
Privacy groups have complainedthat Tik TOK violates us child
protection laws.
(08:26):
And Tik TOK even hired a formerDisney executive to improve
their reputation.
But he ended up resigning almostimmediately.
So that might be a good reasonto ban tick talk, but it's not a
national security reason.
The wall street journal reportedthat Tik TOK was causing
(08:47):
teenagers to view harmfulmaterial, promoting things like,
uh, Extreme dieting and otherdangerous behavior.
And Tik TOK respondedimmediately after that with new
rules to keep that fromhappening.
Then in 2022.
Buzzfeed reported that ByteDance.
The parent company of tech talkwas accessing non-public
(09:10):
information of its users.
Tik TOK.
Didn't say what they were doingwith the information, but they
did move the data to US-basedOracle servers.
Again, this sounds bad, but notreally a national security
reason.
So much as a monopoly and aprivacy issue.
(09:30):
Meanwhile, the Pentagonrecommended Tik TOK be removed
from all personal and businessphones.
Then in February, 2023.
The white house demanded Tik TOKwould be deleted from all
government issued phones.
And the rationale is that TikTOK is just a propaganda tool of
the Chinese government.
It's algorithm for example, orit's moderators.
(09:53):
I took down videos of citizenprotests in Hong Kong.
Again, censorship like this isbad behavior.
But it does mirror the behaviorof Facebook and Twitter, which
are not Chinese companies yethave done the bidding of at
least one government here in theUnited States.
(10:17):
Government action against TikTOK has taken place under both
Trump and Biden.
Trump announced a potential banin 2020.
He signed an executive order inthe same year, making it illegal
for American companies totransact business with tick
tock.
Then last April, the legal banon Tik TOK was signed by Joe
Biden.
(10:37):
With bi-partisan support.
That band was widely supportedby the owners of Facebook,
YouTube, Instagram, and othersocial media platforms.
No doubt.
Since it is a direct competitor.
But most important.
Both houses of Congress, bothparties.
And the last two presidentssupported the ban.
(11:02):
Interesting that you can say thelast two presidents on January
20th or January 21st.
And you're referring to the sametwo people either way.
And that won't happen againsoon.
So there was a tick talk bandpending.
And yet president Trump andKamala Harris campaign.
Using Tik TOK.
(11:23):
The law was in place in thespring.
Yet both candidates create atick talker counts in the
summer.
And use them to campaign forpresident.
It seems that everybody involvedwas relying on the backstop of
the first amendment.
And expected the courts.
To invalidate the legislation.
(11:44):
That band Tik TOK.
This is a big problem.
Because unlike abortion or gunrights, which are basic ideas.
The ban on Tik TOK implies adeep seated problem.
Inside the software, which noneof us can see.
(12:04):
Normally I laugh at concerns offoreign companies having assets
in the U S.
Back in the 1980s, the Japanesetried to buy the Pan-Am building
in New York city.
Everybody thought this was asecurity threat.
I thought it was merely idiotic.
The Japanese have a nearparanoia about buying
(12:25):
manufactured goods from us.
They would ship us cars,cameras, and computers while we
sent back pieces of paper.
Dollars.
In exchange.
Which they would hoard.
People whined about the tradedeficit, but I never saw a
problem.
We were getting goods.
(12:46):
And they were getting pieces ofpaper.
They were building ScroogeMcDuck money bins.
So good for us.
That made my money morevaluable.
If instead they dumped thesedollars on the market, the value
went down.
All they had to do was thesensible thing.
(13:06):
Engage in fair trade with us.
But they weren't smart enough todo that.
So they went, aha.
We'll buy American real estate.
They made an offer on the Pan-Ambuilding in New York city.
People panicked saying a foreignpower would own an important
building in the U S.
And I said, so what?
(13:27):
They can't take it anywhere.
Well in the outcry, they endedup, they didn't buy the Pan-Am
building, but they boughtRockefeller center and pebble
beach golf club in California.
And they lost their shirts onthat deal.
But the tick talk ban isdifferent.
(13:48):
Real estate is tangible.
And our civil rights abortion.
Gun rights.
Are nearly so.
But none of us really knowswhat's going on inside the Tik
TOK software or on theirservers.
Or what they're doing with thedata.
So, this is more like COVID 19,then those other examples I
(14:08):
gave.
Because we have to rely on thegovernment to tell us what's
going on.
And the COVID 19 record is apoor one.
There probably isn't much toworry about, but then again,
Who's to say.
The president that is the formerpresident.
(14:31):
That is former president Biden.
Stated that he would not enforcethe 20, 24 ban on Tik TOK.
Even though he signed it.
With all the other thousands ofpapers he's signed regarding
pardons for people we've neverheard of.
Along with some we have heardof.
(14:51):
The one signature we all do knowabout is the one he's not going
to act on.
So he apparently is not going tosay that Trump is a threat to
democracy this time.
Letting tic talk off the hook.
Contrary to the law is not athreat to democracy.
According to Biden.
(15:13):
This is concerning because ofall the things Biden has labeled
as a threat to democracy.
This is the one action bypresident Trump, which might
actually be so.
Securing the border, forexample, is the law.
Yeah.
Biden calls, immigrationenforcement, a threat to
democracy.
(15:34):
If Trump issues an executiveorder to save tech talk.
And at this point he has, wellthat's outside the law.
Why isn't that considered athreat?
Executive orders are a tool forthe president to employ in order
to enforce the law.
Not do subverted.
(15:55):
Whether this ban on Tik TOK is agood idea or a bad idea.
Your elected representativeshave sent a bill to the
president.
Which was signed into law.
And upheld by the Supreme court.
It's already survived a Supremecourt challenge.
There's no law, more legal thanthis one.
(16:17):
It may be.
And probably is the case thatall these people in government.
Went through with a ban on TikTOK because it felt good at the
time.
Thinking that the firstamendment would be their
backstop.
And that the Supreme court wouldthrow this law out.
Well, it didn't quite work outthat way.
Did it?
(16:39):
Hashtag threat to democracy.
Hashtag.
Thank you for listening.
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I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!
Crime Junkie
Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by audiochuck Media Company.
Ridiculous History
History is beautiful, brutal and, often, ridiculous. Join Ben Bowlin and Noel Brown as they dive into some of the weirdest stories from across the span of human civilization in Ridiculous History, a podcast by iHeartRadio.